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[ct2k]

Typical Yankees/Sox series really.

Did you guys see John Kerry's interview on ESPN last night during the game? If he's a baseball fan i'm mickey fucking mouse!

[Excellance of Execution]

Typical Yankees/Sox series really.

Did you guys see John Kerry's interview on ESPN last night during the game? If he's a baseball fan i'm mickey fucking mouse!
Yeah i saw it, and it made me question him running for President. They asked him if Pete Rose should be in the Hall and he said it's a tough decision and he didn't answer it either way. What does this say about him, if he becomes President and has tough decisions to make? Is he more worried about what people will say about his answer's?

[ct2k]

I'm skeptical as to whether he has any idea what the Pete Rose HOF issue is about! He did the same when they asked him about the DH issue too, although he could atleast say he 'never liked it' he couldn't say why :-S

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

He probably was told not to give any comments. I am sure his mangers told him not to really speak his mind on baseball since his opinion could differ from a lot of his potential voters and people may actaully remember his thoughts on baseball when going into the voting booth. Instead of the important matters

[Excellance of Execution]

He probably was told not to give any comments. I am sure his mangers told him not to really speak his mind on baseball since his opinion could differ from a lot of his potential voters and people may actaully remember his thoughts on baseball when going into the voting booth. Instead of the important matters
I would respect him more if he would just answer the question's and be honest, whether you agree with what he says or not. I don't think it would hurt him to much with voter's, because if anyone watched Fahrenheit 9/11, they'd vote for a monkey before they would vote for Bush again (i know i would :lol: ). I think i gain more respect for people when they tell it like it is. That is one reason why i liked Govenor Ventura. He always told everyone his opinion on the issues and never danced around a question. Gotta like people like that.

[ct2k]

Maybe the Pete Rose issue i can understand him not commenting, but i don't see why he couldn't give a simple reason for why he 'never liked' the DH rule. Also he couldn't say David Ortiz's name properly, apparently first time he got him mixed up with Ramirez and called him Manny Ortez, then David Ortez or some shit. Big Sox fan there:p

[YOUR Hero]

Real issues? All they talk about is his haircuts and whatnot anyway.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Gonna have to retire my Garciaparra Jersey now...

[ct2k]

I'm gonna have to trade him to the Cubs on my Triple Play 2000 season on ps1...

No laughing:mad:

[Yashamaga]

ORLANDOOOOOOOOOO!

homers in his 1st AB for the sox. :naughty:

[YOUR Hero]

He's not quite Nomar, but you guys are going to love him. :'(

[The Miz]

NOMAH WITH THE GAME WINNAH FO THE CUBBIES

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Nice error there in the 8th :y:

[Yashamaga]

Sox have won 16 out of their last 17 games. Nixon is coming back soon, Brown broke his hand, the AL EAST lead is down to 2.5, they're 4.5 up in the wild card, AND we play New York 6 times more.

things can't get much better in Boston.


How's it going over there, Loose Cannon? :naughty:

[ct2k]

The Sox will suck until the day they use the talent they have and win a World Series ring :p

[VonErich Lives]

The Sox will suck until the day they use the talent they have and win a World Series ring :p

Well, not quite... but if we win one, what will you yanks fans chant?

"2004" instead of "1918"?

[ct2k]

*shrug*

Whatever Yankee fans chant you'll still suck:p

[VonErich Lives]

*shrug*

Whatever Yankee fans chant you'll still suck:p

No, "Yankees Suck" that's a good chant...

"1918" that's a good chant, but if the Sox win the WS... that's gone...

But "Yankees Suck" will still work..

Be a little creative... oh wait, you're a Yankees fan... never mind. :D

[ct2k]

We suck yeah...But we've won how many world series titles?

And you?

*cough*

:p

[BCWWF]

Isn't it true that you can't wear a "Yankees Suck" shirt to Fenway anymore? You either have to turn it inside out or write "Apparantly" in black marker?

[MrMeJW]

BULLSHIT... Roberts wasn't tagged

[VonErich Lives]

Isn't it true that you can't wear a "Yankees Suck" shirt to Fenway anymore? You either have to turn it inside out or write "Apparantly" in black marker?

Haven' heard or seen that... and if it was true it would be because of the work "suck" so adding "apparantly" wouldn't change that.

[BCWWF]

Thinking back, I may have seen that in Bill Schefts column in Sports Illustrated, and if I did I am just really stupid

[VonErich Lives]

What a fucking game... Manny catching that ball and the guy thinking he had a HR was a riot.

[BCWWF]

Lol, I saw that on SportsCenter

[MoRcHeEbA]

then they got smoked today :cool:

[The Outlaw]

BLASTED :(

[Loose Cannon]

What a fucking game..Lowe getting hammered and then leaving after 2 innings was a riot.

I agree

[VonErich Lives]

I agree

Silly Yankee turd...

Anyway, today should be a great game, Pedro v. Mussina.

I figured the sox would take 2 out of 3, I didn't see a sweep happening, but I figured it would be Aroyo who got beat, not Lowe.

2 our of 3, picks up a game.

Then the Yanks play minnesota and the sox get baltimore. While Minn is a tougher team, for some reason Baltimore always plays the Sox really well.

[The Miz]

God damn, Red Sox looked like shit past 2 games. Manny Ramirez has got to be the worst outfielder I've ever seen.

[Loose Cannon]

Pedrooooooooo Pedroooooooo Pedrooooooooo 7-1.

[VonErich Lives]

Pedrooooooooo Pedroooooooo Pedrooooooooo 7-1.

*Tips Hat*

It's not over yet, but a wins a win... Unlike the Colts and Panthers who keep saying "We were the better team, we beat ourselves". I tip my hat, the Yanks stepped it up the last 2 days.

I just hope the A's finish worse the the Twins, and better then the Angels. I'd rather face Oakland in round 1, even w/ that pitching then face the Twins or Angels.

Of course, the sox could tank the next 2 weeks and blow the wild card...

[BCWWF]

For the Twins, I would rather face the Yankee's in the first round. I always get scared to death when we play at Fenway because the dimentions of the field are so goofy and crazy things always happen there because of it. The Twins have a little advantage over the other three teams because we will have clinched a lot earlier. At the same time that can be a disadvantage, but I look at is as a little advantage for out little fire throwing Venezuelian.

[VonErich Lives]

For the Twins, I would rather face the Yankee's in the first round. I always get scared to death when we play at Fenway because the dimentions of the field are so goofy and crazy things always happen there because of it. The Twins have a little advantage over the other three teams because we will have clinched a lot earlier. At the same time that can be a disadvantage, but I look at is as a little advantage for out little fire throwing Venezuelian.

I don't think the Twins clinching early makes a difference... and while Fenway does have some funny corners, the Twins Dome is one of the few places you can say the fans are loud enough to have a home field advantage. That and I dunno, why, the Twins just scare me the most of the 3 teams.

[MoRcHeEbA]

CAUSE THEY HAVE CANADIANS ON THEIR TEAM... VEL you're so racist sometimes :nono:

[BCWWF]

Koskie needs to get back though, even though Cuddyer has been real good in the past few games

[MoRcHeEbA]

Morneaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaau

[BCWWF]

The people who whine about trading Doug are stupid. Sure it was done in a bad fashion and he was good at defense, but Morneau has hit like 15 home runs in 45 days or somethiing.

[Loose Cannon]

WTF, DOES THIS LOOK LIKE A FUCKING TWINS THREAD. :rant: :mad:


A-ROD HOMERUN 11-1 :cool:

[BCWWF]

Varitek slap in the face: Priceless

[YOUR Hero]

Opposing team in the Metrodome have a tough time with the roof and in a 5 game series, they'll have to see Santana twice.

[FakeLaser]

Pedro just got OWN3D. :cool:

[VonErich Lives]

CAUSE THEY HAVE CANADIANS ON THEIR TEAM... VEL you're so racist sometimes :nono:

No I'm not, I hate everyone. :p

Especially Jew Mounties that play hockey, smoke weed and own a surf shop.

Good thing I don't know anyone like that... :shifty:

[Loose Cannon]

lol.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Damn

What the effffff happened with the Sox there? Atleast we got Rivera to blow a save in one of the games lol

It seems like the Red Sox are the only team that can consistantly beat Rivera every once in a while

[BCWWF]

Lol, consistantly every once in a while

[YOUR Hero]

Lol, consistantly every once in a while
Yeah that was a pretty funny sentence.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

LOL my bad

You know what I mean. He has only blown a few saves over the past few seasons but everytime he does, it seems like its againest the Sox.

[YOUR Hero]

Yeah, I knew what you meant, but it reads funny.

[BCWWF]

What Hero said. We love Stima34 :love: :wave:

[BCWWF]

BTW, Twins clinched the AL Central for the third straight year tonight.

[VonErich Lives]

The Yanks drop on to the Tornoto andd the sox capitalize by... oh they lost to Baltimore.

Wake has pitched like crap the last month or so... and he's always been a streaky pitcher, they're actually questioning around here if he should be on the playoff roster.

I say he should be, but only starts if needed... as a #4 depending on weather him or Lowe as #4. The way Arrojo's been pitching I put him #3.

[MoRcHeEbA]

No I'm not, I hate everyone. :p

Especially Jew Mounties that play hockey, smoke weed and own a surf shop.

Good thing I don't know anyone like that... :shifty:

I'm not a Mountie :rant:

[VonErich Lives]

I'm not a Mountie :rant:

Your not the mountie? I didn't know you have the equipment to be the Mounter... :shifty: :p :shifty:

[YOUR Hero]

hahaha VEL actually made a funny. An honest to god funny.

[Loose Cannon]

LMAO

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Red Sox are like 9-7 vs the Yankees but then they have a losing record againest Baltimore this season :wtf:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

DAMN what a game

Schilling goes 8 scoreless with 14 K's...Foulk gives up runs but then the Sox still win

[Head]

Magic number drops down to 8.

Boston's definatly got an uphill battle right now.

[BCWWF]

I forget, does anybody remember what the Twins magic number is??

[Apprentice]

They won the division already, so they don't need a magic number. :)

[BCWWF]

Good Boy!

[DaveWadding]

CAAAAAAAABREERRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

STICK IT ORIOLES AND YANKEES! :love:

[The Miz]

Are you jumping on the Sox bandwagon this time Wadding?

[BCWWF]

I've always been a small sox fan, Cabrera's homer last night made me smile :)

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Damn lost tonight

[Apprentice]

Ahhhh. The creative ESPN artists..

http://espn.go.com/i/page2/quickie/040924_quickie.jpg

[BCWWF]

I'm not feeling too well, and I am thinking of staying in tonight, getting some rest, and watching the Yank's Sox game on ESPN...It is on ESPN right???

[Loose Cannon]

lol at Billy Martin holding down the Sox. Looks like Schilling :lol:

Yea, it's on ESPN.

[BCWWF]

Wow I just got home and put the Sox game on, 5-4 Yanks in the top of the 9th. That Wild Pitch then tag out at the plate was a sweet play. A-Rod is up now...Lets see if Stima was right and the Sox can consistantly occasionally beat Rivera.

[Apprentice]

Matsui's going crazy.

[BCWWF]

The Yankee's would be better off if they fired everybody but Jeter, A-Rod, and Matsui and started over.

[The Miz]

Yeah Sheffield is terrible

[Loose Cannon]

WTF are you talking about BCWWF?

[BCWWF]

It would be hard not to have 116 RBI's if you were in Sheffiels position..


Obviously I was exagerating, but IMO if you had to fire everybody but three guys offensively, those are the three guys I would keep.

Whoever is advertising Sheffield for MVP is a joke.

Also, thats got to be cheating for the Yankee's to pick up John Olerud. Talk about an in season free agent pick up.

[BCWWF]

Thats not taking anything away from Sheffield BTW, he is still a great player, one of the best in the game, but his stats are inflated batting in the heart of the Yankee's order.

[The Miz]

His stats were better playing on lesser Brave and Dodger teams

[BCWWF]

He had a career year last year and a comparable year to this one in 1996, otherwise he is already over his career averages in RBI, HR, and one under in doubles. Last years Braves team was arguably just as good offensively if not better than this years Yankees.

[YOUR Hero]

Sheffield is playing with, for all intense of purposes, a seperated shoulder. He has been alomost all year. The guy is MVP material.

[YOUR Hero]

...oh, and that's coming from someone that doesn't particularily like Chef.

[BCWWF]

There are generally two different opinions on what the MVP is. One is the best overall player in the league. The other is the most valuble player to their team, meaning the team wouldn't be where they were if it wasn't for him.

I personally don't think he leads either catagory.

[YOUR Hero]

Sheffield has been the most consistant and clutch Yankee player all year. So that makes him the most valuable Yankee right there.

He's got some of the best numbers in comparison to other AL players. So that puts him right there as best overall player.

Come on BCWWF, don't be like that.

[BCWWF]

You could put up a better case for him being the best overall player, as he does have good RBI, HR, etc. Manny, Vlad, Ichiro, could all be considered in that category aswell though.

As for the most important to his team, I honestly don't think that taking Sheffield away would take away their position in the standings. Obviously if you put like Greg Vaughn in his place it might, but just an average/above average guy is all the Yankee's need to keep first place and a huge offense still.

IMO, the following guys were more important to their teams this year: David Ortiz, Ivan Rodriguez, Vlad Guerrero, Travis Haffner, Lew Ford.

Ford obvously won't get any MVP considerations because his numbers weren't spectacular, but if you follow the Twins you would notice little trends like whenever he sat, they lost. He is the only player who was consistant all year, in the first half Hunter, Koskie, Mientkiewicz, Jones, and Rivas were all trash, Blanco didn't do much, and Guzman was OK, but Ford is really the one who held our team together all year. In the end Morneau came up and Hunter, Stewart, and Jones improved, but without a doubt if Ford wasn't there the Twins would probably be in a really close battle for the division right now. Ford isn't the MVP and won't be the MVP, but without him the Twins very well could have been watching the playoffs this year.

[The Miz]

Vlad is still the MVP IMO, The Angels would be so fucked without him considering he was their only good player who didn't get injured. He also has the best stats of the 4 main candidates.

[Loose Cannon]

WHO THE FUCK CARES. Yankees just Beat the SOX.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Damn...Pedro lost the lead in the 8th :(

[BCWWF]

Well whatever, the Sox were never really going to win the AL East, and they were always going to make the playoffs. The last week or so is just showing that the Sox really aren't the hot team going into the playoffs, its really going to be anybodys games. Right now the Yankee's probably have the best chance.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

God damn, like a week/2 weeks ago I was feeling good about the Sox chances to finally do something in the playoffs. I don't know now though, they gotta beat the Yankees. I don't know what the deal is, Sox were able to beat them at the start of the season but now when it really "counts" they aren't doin' so hot. Pisses me off...Can the god damn Red Sox just win one efffffffffffin World Series?

[The Outlaw]

lol

Sheffield for MVP. :mad:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

As much as I want Manny to win it, I think Vlad will probably get the nod. Which would be fine with me, he obviously deserves it. I don't think Sheff should get it personally.

[VonErich Lives]

I'd vote for Shef... and I hate the Yanks.. but he carried that team all season while Jeter, A-rod and Giambi couldn't find the plate.

As for the Sox, I fell asleep before the 7th... but from everything I read and people I spoke to, it was another Grady little...

This time of year, Pedro doesn't have 120 pitchers in him... I don't care if its the 6th or 7th or 8th... he hits 105, pull his ass.

Watch, Francona will over react now and Sunday pull schilling early.

The best was Francona after the game... when asked after the HR by Matsui why not pull him. He said something like 'Well, it had only been 2 pitches so if I had taken him out then it would have looked like I made a mistake leaving him in, in the first place'

I swear, I don't care if they win it all, they better fire his ass at the end of the year.

[BCWWF]

I guess I underestimated Gary

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

12-5 Sox :cool:

[BCWWF]

How anti-climactic would that be in the Twins beat the Red Sox in the first round of the playoffs. I'm not saying the Twins are going to win, I am just saying if they do it will be a huge dissapointment. Everyone wants the Red Sox and Yankees ALCS.

Everybody got mad at me for saying it would be cool to see the Cards and Yanks in the World Series, but we all know that if it ends up being the A's and Braves everybody will be dissapointed.

[VonErich Lives]

yeah... nice to see Wake work 2/3 of a game and only gave 5 hits and only 3 runs were his fault.

Lesankic has looked good... Faulk still scares me... he not a power closer... His out pitches are never over 90... a closer who doesn't have a fastball scares me... but Foulke has done well.. but when he was with Oakland they didn't make the ALCS.

Tomorrow should be great... I'd expect Brown to step it up and have a classic game... I wouldn't be shocked to see it go 0-0 into the 8th w/ Brown and Schill both still going.

[BCWWF]

I think Brown will either pitch real well or just absolutely suck it up tomorrow...I'm kinda hoping for the second.

[The Miz]

Everybody got mad at me for saying it would be cool to see the Cards and Yanks in the World Series, but we all know that if it ends up being the A's and Braves everybody will be dissapointed.
What the hell are you talking about? Do you work for Fox or something? I don't want to see the two biggest and most popular teams. Braves/A's would be an incredible matchup, probably the 2 best starting 5's in the playoffs going at it.

[Loose Cannon]

haha, Brown got shelled.

[BCWWF]

What the hell are you talking about? Do you work for Fox or something? I don't want to see the two biggest and most popular teams. Braves/A's would be an incredible matchup, probably the 2 best starting 5's in the playoffs going at it.

Good thing the rest of the world isn't The Miz

[VonErich Lives]

What the hell are you talking about? Do you work for Fox or something? I don't want to see the two biggest and most popular teams. Braves/A's would be an incredible matchup, probably the 2 best starting 5's in the playoffs going at it.

Do you really think the Braves have that good of a starting 5 still?
As for the A's, yeah, last year... this year there pithchers have been off... some suspect mulder is still injured in some form and Zito... well, he seems to have lost his fastball...

But yeah, Healthy and on their game the A's have a sick rotation..

then again, so do the Yanks and the Sox...

(again, healthy and on their "A" game)

[The Miz]

Good thing the rest of the world isn't The Miz
I bet you're one of those people who stop watching a game if it's 0-0 after 4 innings

[The Miz]

BCWWF check out ESPN2 right now, Red Sox 9-2 Yankees, it's a really great baseball game :y:

[BCWWF]

When Scott Hatteburg is batting against Mike Hampton I don't really give a shit. When Derek Jeter is hitting against Curt Schilling, theres a difference. In theory no-name teams may be fun, but in reality you forget about it as soon as its over.

[The Miz]

That's weird, Scott Hatteberg has been hitting better than Derek Jeter this year. I guess you like lower quality play.

Aaron Boone vs. Tim Wakefield was not a big star matchup, and it was pretty exciting. When was the last time a big star was the difference in the deciding World Series games? Lets look back, deciding factors in the last few World Series clinching games

2003: Josh Beckett (complete game shut out)
2002: John Lackey (complete game 1 run allowed)
2001: Luis Gonzalez (walk off blooper)
2000: Luis Sojo (go ahead rbi)

I don't see Jeter, Rodriguez, Martinez, Clemens, or any other stars anywhere.

[Loose Cannon]

I'm sorry, the Red Sox Players are just pieces of shits. Was that necessay to throw at Lofton with an 11-2 lead? Give me a fucking break. And don't even try to tell me he wasn't throwing at him. Joe Torre would NEVER let that happen in a situation like that. Lot of class shown there.

[BCWWF]

Josh Beckett and Luis Gonzalez aren't stars?

And that doesn't address anything either. You are missing the whole point The last two World Series's weren't spectacular...by that I mean people aren't going to look back and say "Oh when the Angels beat the Giants, that was the best World Series ever!" The best World Series in the past four years was the Yankee's and the Diamondbacks because they were the two of the best teams with big name stars.

Then go back to last year, the ALCS was bigger than the World Series. You could even say that the NLCS was bigger too. The Red Sox were a better known team the Marlins and they have more big name players. Same with the Cubs. The Marlins were probably the better team, but they didn't offer the more exciting series.

[Loose Cannon]

Well, I can see BCWWF's point here. The 2002 World Series was the lowest rated Series of all-time. Here's a couple of quotes from an article I found.
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"ANAHEIM, Calif. (AP) -- San Francisco wasn't the only World Series loser. Television ratings for the all-California matchup against Anaheim set record lows.

The Angels' seven-game victory over the Giants averaged an 11.9 rating and 20 share, Nielsen Media Research said Monday.

That rating is 24 percent below Arizona's seven-game victory over the New York Yankees last year, which got a 15.7/25, and is 4 percent below the previous record, the Yankees' five-game win over the Mets in the 2000 Subway Series (12.4/21).

With the Yankees not in the World Series for the first time since 1997, the all-California matchup set record lows for an opener (9.4), Game 2 (11.9), Game 3 (10.8), Game 4 (11.8), Game 5 (10.0), Game 6 (11.8) and Game 7"
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Take that for what you will.

[Jerichoholic]

Josh Beckett is a star now because of that World Series, but not really before it.

[Loose Cannon]

Now that was called for.

[BCWWF]

Miz is going to argue that ratings don't matter and the gameplay was better in those years, but I am going to argue that a series like that isn't very exciting. Now that we skipped that stage, whats next?

And nobody try to act smug if the Twins make the World Series, because obviously I will be going crazy, but I would understand that most of the United States wouldn't really give a damn.

[BCWWF]

Josh Beckett is a star now because of that World Series, but not really before it.

Beckett and Burnett were huge prospects for the past three years or so. They were the only thing the Marlins had going for them before the World Series. Most people knew who they were before the World Series, that game just put Beckett in the spotlight. Before that he was good but nobody cared. And yes, I knew Burnett was injured. If I'm not mistaken he was supposed to be the better pitcher of the two, wasn't he?

[VonErich Lives]

I'm sorry, the Red Sox Players are just pieces of shits. Was that necessay to throw at Lofton with an 11-2 lead? Give me a fucking break. And don't even try to tell me he wasn't throwing at him. Joe Torre would NEVER let that happen in a situation like that. Lot of class shown there.

No, Lofton is a piece of shit, was there any need for Lofton to throw an elbow at Mancavietz?

[DaveWadding]

Well, I can see BCWWF's point here. The 2002 World Series was the lowest rated Series of all-time. Here's a couple of quotes from an article I found.
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"ANAHEIM, Calif. (AP) -- San Francisco wasn't the only World Series loser. Television ratings for the all-California matchup against Anaheim set record lows.

The Angels' seven-game victory over the Giants averaged an 11.9 rating and 20 share, Nielsen Media Research said Monday.

That rating is 24 percent below Arizona's seven-game victory over the New York Yankees last year, which got a 15.7/25, and is 4 percent below the previous record, the Yankees' five-game win over the Mets in the 2000 Subway Series (12.4/21).

With the Yankees not in the World Series for the first time since 1997, the all-California matchup set record lows for an opener (9.4), Game 2 (11.9), Game 3 (10.8), Game 4 (11.8), Game 5 (10.0), Game 6 (11.8) and Game 7"
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Take that for what you will.
MAYBE, JUST MAYBE part of the reason for that is the time difference between the East and West Coasts and how that relates to starting times for the games.

[BCWWF]

Its the same way with the NBA, everybody hates the Lakers, but when the Spurs are in the NBA finals it was boring as shit. Big market teams and big market players make more exciting games. Generally.

[VonErich Lives]

A lot of it has to do w/ the big markets (TV) and while the West Coast is a huge market, it's never really driven sports wise.

As for the start times, I thought during the WS they started games early so they hit primetime?

[The Outlaw]

I don't want to see the two biggest and most popular teams. Braves/A's would be an incredible matchup, probably the 2 best starting 5's in the playoffs going at it.
:y:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I'm sorry, the Red Sox Players are just pieces of shits. Was that necessay to throw at Lofton with an 11-2 lead? Give me a fucking break. And don't even try to tell me he wasn't throwing at him. Joe Torre would NEVER let that happen in a situation like that. Lot of class shown there.
Yea throwing it at Dave Robert's chin was pretty classy too. The pitch to Lofton was obviously done on purpose, no denying that but it was thrown way behind him.

[BCWWF]

Supposively last year when Pedro threw at the head of (I forget, it was either Posada or that random right fielder) and then pointed to his own head and everybody got mad and Zimmer ran across the field...He was actually saying "I'll remember you said that" and now "I am throwing at your head." Who believes that?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Pedro throws at people all the time. I guess its like the old line "it takes 2 to tango" it goes both ways. That "real classy" thing in my other post was only there because LC said something about class in his post. No matter what happens, usually both teams show the same amount of "class" or whatever.

I think that was the same game that hick looking pitcher Nelson or whatever got into a fight with a Fenway Staff member in the bullpen LOL

[VonErich Lives]

The Pedro thing had nothing to do w/ yesterday.

As for last year, if Pedro wanted to hit someone in the head he would have, he gets the same rep as clemens cause they both pitch inside and have no fear of backing a player off of the plate. Some players actually hang over the plate and wear "armour" on their arms to take hits if it comes inside.

Ortiz talked after the game that Mancaveitz/Lofton goes back a few years that Lofton always feels Manc steps to far back on the bag and is rude about it, Manc understand getting bumped or elbows but Lofton does it every single time.

So, yesterday, Lofton gave Manc the Elbow and he got sick of it.

Yes, the Sox threw at lofton in retaliation, I'm ok with that since they threw behined him, it wasn't even close to hitting him.

and, I'm even ok if the Yanks feel the need to respond, but there's no need to throw chin music like they did to Roberts, that was BS.

My only hope is if these two teams meet in the ALCS they don't pre-warn both teams... because taking the inside part of the plate away from the pitchers would ruin it for both teams.

[VonErich Lives]

Supposively last year when Pedro threw at the head of (I forget, it was either Posada or that random right fielder) and then pointed to his own head and everybody got mad and Zimmer ran across the field...He was actually saying "I'll remember you said that" and now "I am throwing at your head." Who believes that?

Pedro didn't point to his head till after the benches cleared if I remember correctly and no one knows for sure what he said.. another was he was saying "use your head" or "think about it" meaning if he wanted to hit someone in the head he would have.

Others have said he did threaten Porsada...

But no one knows for sure... but again, yesterdays issue had nothing to do with that, as Ortiz explained it actually goes back a few years to when both players were on different teams I believe (Mancaveitz was a Twin, not sure, Lofton might have been a yankee, but I thought maybe a White Sox or Cleveland?)

[VonErich Lives]

ok, first I'm now calling him Doug M. since I realised how off I was on his last name.

Anyway, here's the article where Ortiz talks about it... Doug was w/ Minnesota and Kenny w/ Cleveland.

http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view.bg?articleid=46163

Old foes intensify rivalry
By Stephen Harris
Monday, September 27, 2004

Big league first basemen and baserunners, for their mutual well-being, normally try to avoid making contact with each other.

Fenway fans were reminded yet again yesterday that the rivalry between the Red Sox [stats, schedule] and New York Yankees [stats, schedule] can hardly be called normal, and they also got a firsthand glimpse of a rather nasty ongoing tiff between Sox first baseman Doug Mientkiewicz [stats, news] and Yanks outfielder Kenny Lofton.

Competitively, the drama was over early on a sun-drenched afternoon in the Fens, as the Sox lit up Yankees starter Kevin Brown, took a 7-0 second-inning lead and breezed to an 11-4 win. But the third-inning confrontation between Mientkiewicz and Lofton on a routine ground ball out sparked the always-simmering tension and anger that exists between the ancient AL rivals.

On the play at first, Mientkiewicz seemed to partially block Lofton's path over the bag, and Lofton delivered an elbow to the first baseman's back as he ran past. The incident led to an exchange of apparent message pitches and three ejections.

The first payback was delivered by Sox reliever Pedro Astacio, who buzzed a fastball behind Lofton's posterior in the seventh inning, earning Astacio a quick ejection and prompting an official warning to both dugouts. In the next inning, innocent bystander Dave Roberts [stats, news] barely ducked away from a high and tight pitch from Yanks rookie left-hander Brad Halsey. The chin music brought both teams streaming out of the dugouts and bullpens, although no one came to blows. Halsey and Yankees manager Joe Torre were tossed from the game.

While both Mientkiewicz and Lofton faulted the other, Sox slugger David Ortiz [stats, news] candidly explained the genesis of the friction between the pair.

``How it started? It started with a little bump at first one time on a play just like that,'' said Ortiz, who was a Minnesota teammate of Mientkiewicz' some years back when Lofton, then with the Indians, first made contact at first.

``Lof say he was across the bag, and Mientkiewicz say he was too far away for him to bump, and blah, blah, blah,'' Ortiz said with a hearty laugh. ``I guess they pretty much bump all the time. I guess they don't like each other from a long time.

``Kenny is not a bad guy, and my boy (Mientkiewicz), I guess I'm going to have to put them together someday and take them out for dinner, see if we can fix things up. Because every time something happens between them, they start screaming at each other. You want to see some punches or something - no, I'm just kidding.''

The two foes, who exchanged angry words immediately after yesterday's inning-ending play, were unapologetic following the game.

``It's not the first time it's happened,'' Mientkiewicz said. ``We had an altercation in Cleveland, too, a few years ago. It's been fine since. I don't talk to him at first. When I continue to get rap shots, I don't appreciate it. I get elbowed every day, but when it's continually the same guy every time, I don't appreciate it. I have no problem with Kenny Lofton, but I don't appreciate continued elbows in the back.''

Lofton was equally aggravated.

``Most (first basemen) catch the ball and pretty much get off the base. But with him, that's not the case with me, I guess,'' Lofton said. ``It's the only time it's happened to me. There are plays where a guy has to reach for the ball or something, and you bump into him. Both players will say, as a courtesy, `Oh, my bad,' and he says, `No, his bad.'And it's cool and you let it go. But like I said, it doesn't happen with him and me, I don't know why. I think it (happened) more than once (before).''

So now the Red Sox-Yankees battle, which could be joined anew in a couple of weeks in the American League Championship Series, has a new edge. Just what these teams needed: More reason to dislike each other.

[Loose Cannon]

The Pedro thing had nothing to do w/ yesterday.

As for last year, if Pedro wanted to hit someone in the head he would have, he gets the same rep as clemens cause they both pitch inside and have no fear of backing a player off of the plate. Some players actually hang over the plate and wear "armour" on their arms to take hits if it comes inside.

Ortiz talked after the game that Mancaveitz/Lofton goes back a few years that Lofton always feels Manc steps to far back on the bag and is rude about it, Manc understand getting bumped or elbows but Lofton does it every single time.

So, yesterday, Lofton gave Manc the Elbow and he got sick of it.

Yes, the Sox threw at lofton in retaliation, I'm ok with that since they threw behined him, it wasn't even close to hitting him.

and, I'm even ok if the Yanks feel the need to respond, but there's no need to throw chin music like they did to Roberts, that was BS.

My only hope is if these two teams meet in the ALCS they don't pre-warn both teams... because taking the inside part of the plate away from the pitchers would ruin it for both teams.

Oh come on though. You really believe he wasn't trying to hit him dead on? That miss was by accident just like that one dude missed Clemens a couple of years back to get revenge for Piazza. LOL.

And yeah, the Yanks picture (forgot his name) shouldn't of thrown up and in like that. He should of just threw it at his stomach or whatever.

Also when I played ball, I hated when the 1ST Basemen would cover the whole bag. You can break your ankle like that when your running hard and your trying to get your foot on the bag. I played 1ST Base and I always had the side of my cleets on the bag so I wouldn't get spiked or whatever.

[BCWWF]

Lol, I had no idea you were talking about Mientkiewicz that whole time.

But I was just bringing up the Pedro thing because I saw some sort of biography on him on FSN and thats what he said, and it is kind of a similar situation as to what happened yesterday.

That whole story sounds like a bunch of little girls whining. The original incident could only have happened in 2001, get over it.

[VonErich Lives]

Oh come on though. You really believe he wasn't trying to hit him dead on? That miss was by accident just like that one dude missed Clemens a couple of years back to get revenge for Piazza. LOL.

And yeah, the Yanks picture (forgot his name) shouldn't of thrown up and in like that. He should of just threw it at his stomach or whatever.

Also when I played ball, I hated when the 1ST Basemen would cover the whole bag. You can break your ankle like that when your running hard and your trying to get your foot on the bag. I played 1ST Base and I always had the side of my cleets on the bag so I wouldn't get spiked or whatever.

Pitchers throw behined batters all the time and get the same reaction from a batter as hitting them, so yeah, I think that was the intent.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Red Sox are playoff bounddddddddddddd

Hopefully this topic is as entertaining last years :cool:

[VonErich Lives]

Red Sox are playoff bounddddddddddddd

Hopefully this topic is as entertaining last years :cool:

I was so pissed they celebrated... WTF... you don't celebrate going to the playoffs as 2nd place.

Celebrate a div title, not a wild card.

[DaveWadding]

"My Daddy"
by Pedro Martinez




"Yes. It is true. It brings me great shame to admit it, but the Yankees are my Daddy. I never knew until recently because my father left my mother before I was born.

"The Dodgers, of course, are my mother, and I loved her as I love life itself. She was the most beautiful woman in the world; and when I close my eyes now, I can still see her dressed in the purest whites and deepest blues you have ever seen. She sacrificed everything to raise me and my older brother, Ramon. She worked in the fields until her hands were raw and her back ached, and yet she always found time in the early evening to teach Ramon and I how to throw a beanball.


"One day when I was six and Ramon was nearly 10, we asked our mother about our father -- who he was and where he lived and when he would come home to teach us how to throw sliders. She only told us that our father was a very bad man, and then began weeping. She walked into her room, closed the door and stayed inside for three days. She ate nothing and drank only the tears that ran down her cheeks. We could hear her sobs even when we turned up 'Welcome Back Kotter' very loud; and when she finally emerged from the room, she said that we were never to ask her any questions about our father again. I tell you, these were the saddest moments of my life until Grady Little left me in too long in Game 7.


"Looking back now, I suppose there were clues to my father's identity I should have recognized if only I had opened my eyes wide enough to examine them closely. But so much of life is a deception, is it not? Even now, many Red Sox fans think we are going to win the World Series.


"I once caught my mother opening a worn shoebox and pulling out faded black and white photos of her when she was a girl in Brooklyn. Then she looked at a photograph of her as a young woman smiling with a man in pinstripes. When she looked at it, she made a strange sound and I could not tell whether she was laughing or crying -- it was similar to the sound Red Sox fans make at the beginning of each October. I asked who the man in the picture was, and she quickly put the photos away. She said only that he was a rich man she once knew in New York, and that I should not sneak up on her anymore and should instead go outside and practice knocking down 72-year-old men with Ramon.


<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=right border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=5 rowSpan=2><SPACER height="1" width="5" type="block"></TD><TD width=195></TD></TR><TR><TD width=195></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>"My mother also had a beautiful ring she kept protected under the mattress. Ramon and I never were allowed to look at it closely, but she would occasionally take it out to slip on her finger. We could see that it was gold with a ruby in the middle and small diamonds surrounding it and some sort of inscription. We asked why she didn't sell it in the market so that we could move into a better neighborhood with cable TV, and she said it was all she had left from our father and that she would never sell it. I understand now that it is a World Series ring, though of course, I have never seen such a thing up close.


"My mother died just before I reached the majors, and I was always sad that she never got a chance to see me pitch. But worse was the longing I felt for my father. Whenever I would see Ken Griffey Jr. or Barry Bonds or Aaron Boone, I would feel such jealousy. Why did they have fathers in the game, and I did not even know who mine was? And why did they always hit so many home runs in extra innings? I would be so envious that I wanted to hit them all in the head with my pitches. And I usually did.


"And then I visited my old, beloved aunt, the Expos, in Montreal this summer. She said that she would be moving soon, she did not know where, and that I should know the truth about my father in case she never saw me again. She said that the Yankees were my Daddy and that though they were dishonorable and had treated my mother very badly by not marrying her and never once paying child support, I must seek them out and resolve our relationship, though perhaps I should have my agent phone first.


"It was painful to learn, but at least now I know the truth. The Yankees are my Daddy and I look forward to reuniting soon and getting to know him as a son should know his father, perhaps beginning next season if he will offer me a four-year, $60 million contract. Perhaps he will even take me to the World Series.


"But the truth about my father is not the most amazing thing I learned. No, the strangest part is what else I discovered.


"Don Zimmer is my crazy uncle."


From ESPN

[Loose Cannon]

LOL. What the hell?

[Yashamaga]

nobody is reading that

[BCWWF]

Lol, what Yash said

[The Outlaw]

LOL Don Zimmer

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Lowe isn't in the playoff rotation...I bet he will be gone next season too

[VonErich Lives]

Lowe isn't in the playoff rotation...I bet he will be gone next season too

Especially w/ his agent... probably pulling his hair out, cause they also turned down a contract which is more then they'll get from anyone.

Priority #1 is Teck and he's going to cost a lot.

#2, if you can get a reasonable price, maybe a 2yr w/ 3rd yr option I'd go after Pedro.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

YUP 1-0

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Thats the way to run the bases Bellhorn :ROLL:

[BCWWF]

Fuck You All :rant:

[Yashamaga]

NOMAR WHO?

[VonErich Lives]

NOMAR WHO?

Careful, someones going to accuse you of being a whiner and not being able to get over Nomar leaving the Red Sox... :lol: :rofl:

[VonErich Lives]

So, it's ok for me to root for the Angels Friday so I can see the sox win the series on Saturday? Right? Right? Yeah I know... 3 game sweep would be nice, especially if the other ALDS goes 5 games.

[The Miz]

Careful, someones going to accuse you of being a whiner and not being able to get over Nomar leaving the Red Sox... :lol: :rofl:
It's too bad nobody over 40 posts here, you would probably be the funniest guy around

[The Outlaw]

lol

[VonErich Lives]

It's too bad nobody over 40 posts here, you would probably be the funniest guy around

***Insert sexual joke about Miz's mother here***

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Careful, someones going to accuse you of being a whiner and not being able to get over Nomar leaving the Red Sox... :lol: :rofl:No but other things then the Nomar trade has turned this team around. I didn't really agree with the trade at 1st, but I am starting to like it now. Time will tell though to see how things really pan out, still a long way to go.

Sox up 2-0 right now, hopefully get the sweep tomorrow. After what happened last year with the A's, I know anything is possible but I think the Sox will win tomorrow

[VonErich Lives]

No but other things then the Nomar trade has turned this team around. I didn't really agree with the trade at 1st, but I am starting to like it now. Time will tell though to see how things really pan out, still a long way to go.

Sox up 2-0 right now, hopefully get the sweep tomorrow. After what happened last year with the A's, I know anything is possible but I think the Sox will win tomorrow

I questioned the trade at first till I looked at the stats... but considering he was going to walk at the end of the year, and wouldn't be healthy all season, I figured anything was better then nothing.

Yeah, a sweep would be nice, I'm not worried about us taking the final 3 from oakland last year, since two of them were at home. I'd be shocked if Anehiem took 2 in fenway. Although, they were saying Arrojo has had trouble against them.

[BCWWF]

Do you guys remember me asking if the Red Sox were giving up on their season by trading for Cabrera. :lol: How wrong was I. He really came through.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yea overall the trade seems to be working out. Nomar is still one of my all time favorite Red Sox though. I didn't get to catch the game tonight, since I had a game of my own but I am glad to hear about what happened. One more step closer to the World Series....DONT BREAK MY HEART AGAIN SOXXXXXXXXXXX

[BCWWF]

You know they'll end up losing to like the Astro's or something. Its always the last team you'd think.

[MrMeJW]

Wow, I was stuck at work from 5-11. We had the worst reception from the little AM radio and I was still going nuts.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Sox Yanks Round 2

[Yashamaga]

yep

This is gonna be one of the biggest draws in baseball history

[The Outlaw]

What Would Johnny Do

[Yashamaga]

wwjd

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

wwjdd

I got the shirt hahaha

10 dollars from a vendor right outside of the Fenway grounds

[VonErich Lives]

I got the Porsada is a little bitch :)

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

LOL i saw that one

[Loose Cannon]

PRIDE IN PINSTRIPES.

[Loose Cannon]

quality goes shitty when you have to upload it on here

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

hey nice fade

[Loose Cannon]

hey thanks. Got that shirt outside Yankee Stadium from some dude on the corner selling them for like 7 bucks about 4 years ago.

[Loose Cannon]

they are now banned at the Stadium now I think.

[Azriel]

Christ LC, you even look a tad bit like Orton :lol:

[Excellance of Execution]

Couple hours till gametime, GO YANKEES!!!

[Boondock Saint]

C'mon Schillingggg

[YOUR Hero]

2-0 NYY (early though)

[Champion of Europa]

I'm so buying a "Johnny's Got Style!" t-shirt. :heart:

I've been looking all over for a Damon shirt.

[Dragon]

Matsuiii

5-0 Yankees with no outs in the third.

[Apprentice]

Matsui is starting to play like Godzilla

[Savio]

:lol: @ Boston......:lol: @ baseball

[Dragon]

Who's your daddy chants.

[Champion of Europa]

They seriously need to take Schilling out.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Damn I figured Schilling would pitch a gem tonight

Sucks, now even more pressure will be on Pedro tomorrow...can't start out down 2 games

[The Miz]

WTF why is Pedro starting tomorrow? If the Red Sox lose tomorrow they are fucked, they'll be down 2-0 with their season riding on Wakefield and Arroyo. They should pitch one of those guys tomorrow, so even if they lose they have Pedro at home for Game 3.

[The Miz]

lol @ Schilling btw

"there is no better feeling than shutting up millions of New York fans"

Good job backing up your words champ :y:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

The whole series IS riding on tomorrow though, if they start 0-2 you can pretty much forget about it

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol @ Schilling btw

"there is no better feeling than shutting up millions of New York fans"

Good job backing up your words champ :y:
I was glad when he said that, usually he backs up what he says but I dunno whats going on here. Pitching like a dickhead

[The Miz]

The whole series IS riding on tomorrow though, if they start 0-2 you can pretty much forget about it
...said the Oakland A's in 2003

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Honestly though, I figured Schilling would get like 1 or 2 ER but maybe still end up losing because Mussina would pitch a great game. Mussina is the only starting pitcher on the Yankees staff that impresses at all, so its not like its the end of world after 1 game.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

...said the Oakland A's in 2003
A's choke all the time, Yankees really don't

Get don't wrong me though, I really hope I am wrong if the series goes to 0-2 but I don't know. 2003 Oakland A's and 2004 New York Yankees are two completely different teams.

[The Miz]

Yeah I know, I'm just saying you shouldn't count the Red Sox out if they go down 0-2. They take 2 at Fenway and it's a brand new series

[Dragon]

4 straight strike outs for Mussina.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Mussina is a dick, I was hoping the Twins series would go to five games then Mussina would have to pitch again, then not be able to start off the ALCS

Nice Job BCWWF, your dickhead Twins can win the central divison like 10 years in a row but they can't even get a series to 5 games?

[Rain Man]

PERFECT GAME..CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP.... PERFECT GAME... CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP

[Dragon]

lol

[The Outlaw]

Im thinking Schill's ankle was worse off than what was reported. :-\

[Jerichoholic]

Yeah, that is what I'm more worried about.

That we have lost schilling, instead of just him throwing a terrible game tonight.

[Rain Man]

lol just heard the "whos your daddy" chant for the first time.. funny stuff

[Rain Man]

WWJD? Sorry, he is too busy striking out at the moment

[Rain Man]

Damn... No, no Hitter and Perfect game

[Splaya]

8-3 Coming back baby :)

[Dragon]

Damn, 8-5 and the Red Sox are back in it.

[Splaya]

8-5 Jason Fucking Varitek :) Yes they are coming back baby :)

[Head]

Yankees still have it.

[Splaya]

Shit it almost looks as if the curse is switching sides right now :eek:

[Yashamaga]

OH MY GOD :eek:

[Boondock Saint]

HOLY SWEET JESUS 1 RUN GAME! :love:

[Splaya]

I told you the curse is switching at least for this game and for right now :eek:

[Splaya]

1 run in the ninth to tie if they hold em :)

[Boondock Saint]

Scheisse

[The Miz]

# of runs Red Sox are currently trailing by: 3
# of runs Manny Ramirez' defense has cost them: 3

Defense ins championships, no matter what the sport

[The Outlaw]

You could say that he cost them Godzilla's during the first inning as well. And the three off of Bernie's triple.

[Apprentice]

The Red Sox... such a tease.

[Jerichoholic]

It tore me up inside.

However, it was still a hot game.

[MrMeJW]

Well, I think I may throw up but this is the reason the ALCS is a 7 game series.

[The Icon of Elisim]

# of runs Red Sox are currently trailing by: 3
# of runs Manny Ramirez' defense has cost them: 3

Defense ins championships, no matter what the sport
Being able to manage a bull pen also wins championships

Francona should've pulled Timlin and brought in Myers to face Matsui and Foulke to face Williams.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Damn ridiculous

Hopefully this was a good sign though, once Mussina was out of the game things turned around. Mussina is the only good thing the Yankees starting pitching staff has going for them so hopefully the rest of the games will be just like how the last few innings of todays game was.

[BabyHugger]

What a waste of as night, Redsox are such cunts for not coming all the way back.

[VonErich Lives]

Good game to watch... and that's why it's a 7 game series. I figured we'd split the games in NY, so I still could be right on that one.

I don't care what Schill says, he's injured and he pitched like it. His push off was different, his speed was off.

and no, you don't hold Pedro back till game #3... you pitch your best pitchers as often as you can and in the case of Pedro he's youe #2 pitcher, I don't care that Arroyo had a better september.

Pedro thrives on this stuff, pressure, and the crazy yankee fans. My only concern is, he'll only be good 100 pitches... who is going to come out of the pen? I didn't like how little used the pen last night... Schill gone that early, he should have gone to Lowe, intead of using every guy in the pen, unless he figured they'd be ok since the extra days rest from the ALDS.

game #2 tonight, should be another good game.

Really, game #1 was a must win for the yanks, it's their best pitcher in their park. The sox just need a split to change the homefield advantage.

[Loose Cannon]

lol at Miz and lol at Sox fans expecting a comeback. Have it.

Matsui should of caught Ortiz's ball IMO. It was in and out.

Good Game though. I had to turn away when Ortiz came up. Nervous as hell and then I threw the remote when Matsui dropped it.

[VonErich Lives]

lol at Miz and lol at Sox fans expecting a comeback. Have it.

Matsui should of caught Ortiz's ball IMO. It was in and out.

Good Game though. I had to turn away when Ortiz came up. Nervous as hell and then I threw the remote when Matsui dropped it.

Yeah, I gotta admit there were all these calls to local radio "we're going to sweep the yanks"..

ok, first... unless your a player, manager or heck even a ticket taker... it's not "we".

Second, no, we won't the Yanks have a good team and a lot of big time players who have done it under pressure time and time again.

My whole case for the Sox winning is SP, which is the same way the Yanks have won in the past, yes... they had good hitting, but it was SP, Defense and the Pen.

Now, take away Schill... assuming he's injured... it's a whole different series... That being said, last year we were 5 outs away w/o schill and foulke. So, if the old Pedro is back like his last start, and Wake has always done well against the Yanks... Lowe wasn't "great" last year... so who knows...

So yeah, it's only 1 game... Didn't the Sox win game #1 last year?

Yeah, Matsui should have caught that and on the flip side, Manny should have made that player... either dive or come in deeper so you can cut it on one bounce.

Oh yeah, notice that Rivera stat? blown 7 of like 22 saves against the sox 14 of 175 against the rest... (Hope Wadding caught that) :)

[MrMeJW]

Also, what was up with the home plate ump last night... he had a bunch of bullshit calls

[Loose Cannon]

Nah, I use "we" when talking about the Yanks and so do a lot of people. It's just an association of pride to the state/city you live in. It's "your" team and it's a sense of belongness. Everybody does that.

However, if you live in like Kansas and you use "we" when talking about the Yankees, I find that weird.

[el fregadero]

Matsui should of caught Ortiz's ball IMO. It was in and out.
Manny should have cought alot of balls.

[Loose Cannon]

and yes I saw the stat, but you know what. One of the Sox, I want to say Veritec, was like 1-25 or something at the Stadium and he hit a homer. I think that was the stat, could be wrong.

What I'm trying to say is stats mean crap sometimes because it's a new day and a new game.

You always here things like "oh he's 1-43 against him" and then the guy hits a homer. I don't take those stats into account that much.

[VonErich Lives]

and yes I saw the stat, but you know what. One of the Sox, I want to say Veritec, was like 1-25 or something at the Stadium and he hit a homer. I think that was the stat, could be wrong.

What I'm trying to say is stats mean crap sometimes because it's a new day and a new game.

You always here things like "oh he's 1-43 against him" and then the guy hits a homer. I don't take those stats into account that much.

yeah, Teck hadn't hit in yankee stadium all year.

The funny thing is, the NY I've talked to are ripping Torre for not leabing Mussina in to face Teck...

Anyway, just got a call... instead of one ticket for Saturday, I got two tickets for Sunday (assuming the Sox don't get swept), there's still a chance I may go Saturday also...

I'll be either front or 2nd row, next to the Yankees dugout... So... do I wear the "Porsada is a little bitch" or "Jeters Sucks A Rod"...

naah, I wouldn't wear either there... while I find both funny, and I'll be on someones case... normally it's whoever in Left but Matsui isn't fun... so I'll probably rag on Bernie... or maybe Jeter... although, I've said it before and I'll say it again... I'd give up just about anyone for Derek Jeter... it's not just that he's a good player, cause let's be honest his fielding ain't the best... But the guy is clutch and goes 100% every single play. W/ the possible exception of Mattingly, he's the only Yankee who's Jersey I've ever wanted...

[Loose Cannon]

Nah, Mussina was finished. I would of taken him out. I kind of had a feeling he would hit the homer. It just seemed like it would happen.

Who would of thought Lofton would be the winning run of that game though? I was saying to myself how they should have brought Sierra in after they took Schilling out to take Lofton's place. I shutup after that.

[VonErich Lives]

Nah, Mussina was finished. I would of taken him out. I kind of had a feeling he would hit the homer. It just seemed like it would happen.

Who would of thought Lofton would be the winning run of that game though? I was saying to myself how they should have brought Sierra in after they took Schilling out to take Lofton's place. I shutup after that.

yep, we can look at stats and tendencies, etc.. etc.. but ya never know.

The talk/rumor is here that curt might be done, not just for the series, but if the sox advance the season and the surgery he needs is putting a rod in his ankle...

sounds to me and looking at the way he's changed his pitching and reacts an achelies injury... the question is to what degree... of course, this is all complete speculation because the sox and schill wont say anything.

[Champion of Europa]

That was a hot game. It was tearing me up.

[VonErich Lives]

Wow, breaking news... Curt Schilling needs surgery, still hopes to start game #5...

Like thats a shock, anyone following w/ 1/2 a brain knew he's need surgery for 3/4 of the season.

[Innovator]

the Sox are morons if they let Schilling start when he needs surgery.

Everyone can look at stats, but who honestly thought that last year Aaron Boone would be the x-factor?

Go Yankees

[VonErich Lives]

the Sox are morons if they let Schilling start when he needs surgery.

Everyone can look at stats, but who honestly thought that last year Aaron Boone would be the x-factor?

Go Yankees

Yep... The thing w/ schill it's the same injury he's had all year. The problem from what they're saying is the way they had taped it most the year, isn't securing the same and isn't allowing him to push off... that it's more of a mechanics thing then pain.

I dunno, not worried... they lose, they lose... but what I look at is last year, Sox were 5 outs away.

They have a better closer, better defense, you could argue hitting is the same or better then last year.

If Pedro can be the same Pedro as last year, which was good, not great.
Wake is still Wake
Arroyo is pitching better the Lowe did
Lowe just needs to pitch the same or better the Burkett, who pitched the game of his life for like 5-6innings last year.

Anythings possible...

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

LETS GO SOXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Hopefully Pedro pitches the game of his life tonight

[Rain Man]

I think Liber will pitch till the 6th and let up 2 runs.. Pedro is gonna have a big game

[Loose Cannon]

lol, you can hear the thick NY accents in the "Who's your daddy" chants

[Splaya]

Pedro has his shit together now.


2-2 in NLCS now :mad:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

They are showing the NLCS game here too, on NESN

Pretty sweet...Turned it on right when Beltran hit a "ROPE" over the fence...Hate to use over used terms but that shit really was a lazor

[Splaya]

Glad I got some entertainment instead of watching president Bunghole tonight

[Rain Man]

They just showed Jack Nicholous.. What pisses me off about that cock is he cheers for the two most dominating teams in sports.. The Lakers and the Yankees. That makes no sense?

[Splaya]

Its about publicity and being a bandwagoner

[Rain Man]

Its about publicity and being a bandwagoner
True.. What a cock.. :nono:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Damn this Lieber is pitching unbelievable...WHAT THE FUCK he isnt THIS good

[Rain Man]

For my 500th career post I want everyone to know I Love You all with all my heart... :heart: .. Lets Go Yankees... Wow while I was typing this Olerude smacks a homerun.. weirddd.. how bout a little rep.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Fuckin Olerud, guy is like 75 years old

[Splaya]

Fuck Jon Olerud, I bet the Red Sox come back now :mad:

[Splaya]

That 16 pitch ordeal with Damon probably took it's toll on Lieber though

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Who cares, its already 3-0

They can bring in Gordon then Rivera now, I was hoping to get a shot up againest their middle relief. Gordon and Rivera are pretty much lights out :mad: :mad:

[Loose Cannon]

Lieber has been solid all year when he's pitched. You guys just underestimated him. There's a reason he's in the 2 spot.

Man this guy has a deep voice. Sounds like Andre the Giant. lol.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yea I know who he is, but hes pitching lights out here, ridiculous

He is pitching like a 22 game winner, not a 13 game winner

[Loose Cannon]

jesus, why did they leave him in? Should of pulled him after the 7th. I knew he would give up a hit right away.

[YOUR Hero]

Lieber pitched better than Mussina.


Who's your daddy?

[YOUR Hero]

jesus, why did they leave him in? Should of pulled him after the 7th. I knew he would give up a hit right away.
I think if they'd scored another run or two they would have let him keep pitching, but since they didn't they had him go out to get his props from the fans.

[Splaya]

2nd and 3rd no one out :mad:


Yes bitches come on Cabrera 3 run hr :mad:

[Loose Cannon]

here we go. See, they should have taken him out. Can't let Boston get on in the late innings because they will hurt you.

I hate the dam eight innning. GET TO RIVERA :mad:

[Loose Cannon]

Splaya, your excessive use of the :mad: icon makes it look like a joke.

[YOUR Hero]

What are you talking about? They did take him out. He went to the mound but didn't pitch at all. Maybe we're talking different things here...

[Loose Cannon]

He gave up a single right away. Can't do that in the eigth against the Sox. You must of miised the hit he gave up.

[Loose Cannon]

Here He comes.

[The Miz]

Rivera is a machine

[Splaya]

Rivera is just dominant. If the sox win in the 9th, they will win the series, I guarandamtee you :rant:

[Splaya]

2-3-4 coming up for the Sox. It's time to win it in the ninth :)