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[Loose Cannon]

I am scared shitless of Ortiz more then any other player in the league. The guy just makes my heart go 90 miles an hour when he's up at the plate and the Yanks are only up by 1 or 2.

[Boondock Saint]

Son of a :mad:

[MrMeJW]

So, how about those Patriots

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Ridiculous

[Yashamaga]

fuck this

[The Icon of Elisim]

I am scared shitless of Ortiz more then any other player in the league. The guy just makes my heart go 90 miles an hour when he's up at the plate and the Yanks are only up by 1 or 2.
Now you know how the rest of the world feels when Shefield is up to bat

[Loose Cannon]

lol, Pedro is on cloud 9. You saw his interview after the game? He was really putting himself over bigtime. "I was the center of attention of the whole city of NY." haha, sure buddy. Great Pitcher, but he's a little out there when he speaks to the media.

[Innovator]

I'm scared when Ortiz is at bat, the man takes up the entire plate!

Solid win for the Yankees, I'm getting worried about Gordon though, he's not at lights out level yet and is giving me too much heart trouble.

Lieber = stepped up

[BCWWF]

Radke = Choked :-\

[VonErich Lives]

Tip my hat to Liber, he pitched a great game.

Oh well, 0-2, life of a sox fan...

So, gotta win all 3 at home and then take 1 of 2 in NY.

Dunno... not the best odds, but anything is possible.

I don't think anyone evens the soxs knows the rotation for 3/4/5.

I've heard Arroyo, Wake, Schill/Lowe
Another talk is Pedro comes back game #5 which Pedro normally sucks on 3days rest.
Also talk that if Schill can pitch, he might go game #3, which would allow him to pitch again game #6 or #7.

My guess... Schills done.

Arroyo, Wake and Lowe and then if neccesary you get Pedro in the 6th in NY and Arroyo in the 7th in NY or possible Schill if he can go.

Dunno.. in 1986, the sox took 1 and 2 in NY(mets) and dropped 3/4 at home, won 5 at home and lost 6 and 7 in NY.

Gotta lmao at everyone wanting to jump off a bridge today.

[asphyXy]

I love how people get pissed at the Red Sox losing. It's as though they don't expect it to happen.

[Azriel]

Pretty good game tonight. Lieber was awesome tonight. Let's hope Brown can produce on Friday. They need to bring in El Duque though.

[SuperSlim]

Sox should still take the series.

[YOUR Hero]

lol, Pedro is on cloud 9. You saw his interview after the game? He was really putting himself over bigtime. "I was the center of attention of the whole city of NY." haha, sure buddy. Great Pitcher, but he's a little out there when he speaks to the media.
Pedro is a head case, period.

I didn't see this interview, but he should stop and think about what they were saying about him. "Who's your daddy?" I'm sure his team mates would like it if the talk was one of fear, not ridicule.

[VonErich Lives]

Pedro is a head case, period.

I didn't see this interview, but he should stop and think about what they were saying about him. "Who's your daddy?" I'm sure his team mates would like it if the talk was one of fear, not ridicule.

I've heard the clip a few times today a lot of reporters think it's a response he may have already had before the game, because he knew the question would be there after the game.

You really need to hear the whole thing, I'll see later if I can find a transcript...

He went to say he was the center of attention in yankee stadium and in NY and how it's amazing how 10yrs ago he was under a mango tree w/o 50 cents in his pocket.

[Loose Cannon]

Schill ain't pitching on Friday, that's out of the question. If he goes Friday, you're really really taking a huge risk. He could come back for game 5, but with the reports I've been hearing, it's very very doubtful. The docotr/trainer for the Sox said that if this was the middle of the season, Schilling would be wearing a cast right now.

You have to go Arroyo and Wake in 3 and 4. Then Pedro game 5 if Schilling is finished. You could throw Lowe and save Pedro for the NY, but game 5 might be do or die.

Right know, I think it comes down to Arroyo pitching a gem in game 3. I have a feeling Wake will win 4 because he pitches good in the playoffs and good against the Yankees. Arroyo did good, I think, last time he faced the Yankees, so I don't know.

[VonErich Lives]

Schill ain't pitching on Friday, that's out of the question. If he goes Friday, you're really really taking a huge risk. He could come back for game 5, but with the reports I've been hearing, it's very very doubtful. The docotr/trainer for the Sox said that if this was the middle of the season, Schilling would be wearing a cast right now.

You have to go Arroyo and Wake in 3 and 4. Then Pedro game 5 if Schilling is finished. You could throw Lowe and save Pedro for the NY, but game 5 might be do or die.

Right know, I think it comes down to Arroyo pitching a gem in game 3. I have a feeling Wake will win 4 because he pitches good in the playoffs and good against the Yankees. Arroyo did good, I think, last time he faced the Yankees, so I don't know.

I dunno... (listening to curt on the radio now). There still saying it's the same injury he had all year, the only difference is the brace didn't work, so if they can get a new brace to work and can make his normal push off.

He's saying as long as they get sometype of brace that does what it did all year, he'll be good to pitch.

But, they were also talking about him pitching 6 or 7, so I'm not sure if they've already decided he's out for game #5.

If Fridays game isn't rained out, I doubt you'll see PEdro game #5, you'll see Lowe, Pedro can't go on 3days rest.

[VonErich Lives]

ok... couple of things... I missed the 1st half of curt.

Aperently the injury is worse then it was, he says he Tore the sheeth against the yanks the last game of the season, but was still ok to pitch against the Angels, so he figured he'd still be fine vs. NYY.

But, he said it did bother him warming up, but it did the last time and was fine.

Also, Lucchino had said Curt hurt it on the steps before the NYY game and Curt said he didn't, but he did have "problems" w/ the ankle, but same was before.

He stills sounds like he plans to pitch if he can get the mechanics back.

[Yashamaga]

Curt won't pitch Game 5, Lowe will. It's official

[VonErich Lives]

Curt won't pitch Game 5, Lowe will. It's official

yep, he left the door open for a possible 6 or 7.

Also, if there is a rain out tomorrow, I'd expect Pedro to pitch 5.
Lowe 6
and arroyo/wake for game 7.

of course, only if it goes that far.

I dunno, Lowe has had a bad year, but I kinda like him pitching in NY more then I do Lowe at home... dunno why... he seems to do better on the road... plus you'd have arroyo on 3 days and wake on 2days if needed out of the pen.

many options... but they gotta win #3... thats the key... I'd like to see 3 and 4... then it's a best of 3.

[Dragon]

The atmosphere there was crazy last night. The "Who's your daddy" chants were almost deafening and going on everytime a Yankee got a hit off Pedro.

It was the first time I was in the bleachers in right at Yankee stadium and I know why they don't allow alcohol in that section now. Every person there was crazy.

[Champion of Europa]

I got home for innings 7-10, and my uncle was totally bashing me for being a Red Sox fan.

I hope the Sox can come back and win this Series, but it's not looking likely.

This is my first year as a Red Sox/baseball fan, how do you all deal with the sadness? :(

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Why can't the Red Sox just win the World Series one time? I don't understand it at all. The Red Sox have a better team then the Yankees this year, and for some reason the Red Sox still can't beat them. This year is probably the Red Sox best shot at winning in a while because you know the Yanks are gonna go out and pick a few big name pitchers for next season, they have to, they went one year without having a staff full of huge names.

Its like the Red Sox have some sort of mental block or something, if you switched the teams around, like gave the Sox the Yankees Rosters and vice versa the Red Sox will still probably be down 0-2 right now just because they are the Sox.

Its the same shit every year with our fans too, that "this year is different" thing is bullshit, everyone just says that, its like a gimmick. All the fans just think they will end up losing in the end, I have been trying to fight it and actually stay positive but I don't know. This shit is getting ridiculous

Atleast we got the Pats tho :shifty:

[Excellance of Execution]

Why can't the Red Sox just win the World Series one time? I don't understand it at all. The Red Sox have a better team then the Yankees this year, and for some reason the Red Sox still can't beat them. This year is probably the Red Sox best shot at winning in a while because you know the Yanks are gonna go out and pick a few big name pitchers for next season, they have to, they went one year without having a staff full of huge names.

Its like the Red Sox have some sort of mental block or something, if you switched the teams around, like gave the Sox the Yankees Rosters and vice versa the Red Sox will still probably be down 0-2 right now just because they are the Sox.

Its the same shit every year with our fans too, that "this year is different" thing is bullshit, everyone just says that, its like a gimmick. All the fans just think they will end up losing in the end, I have been trying to fight it and actually stay positive but I don't know. This shit is getting ridiculous

Atleast we got the Pats tho :shifty:
What makes you think the Sox have a better team than the Yanks? Just because their team looks better on paper? Sorry, but *NEWSFLASH* there is more than being good on paper. Team Chemistry carries a team a lot further than individual performer's. I'm not saying the Sox don't have any team chemistry, but it seem's to me that the Yanks have more than the Sox and that is probably the reason why the Sox can't get by the Yanks.

[Loose Cannon]

lol, just noticed Babe Ruth is directly behind my head in the pic. I forgot he was on that poster.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

*NEWSFLASH* Don't try to sound like smart ass when you are saying the samething I am saying, what do you think I ment? Better in what other then "on paper" could I have possibly ment?

I dont think its team chemistry either, Red Sox are probably one of the tightest Red Sox teams I have seen in a long time. I think its some sort of mental block when you are on the Red Sox or something, I just don't get it.

[Excellance of Execution]

*NEWSFLASH* Don't try to sound like smart ass when you are saying the samething I am saying, what do you think I ment? Better in what other then "on paper" could I have possibly ment?

I dont think its team chemistry either, Red Sox are probably one of the tightest Red Sox teams I have seen in a long time. I think its some sort of mental block when you are on the Red Sox or something, I just don't get it.
Umm... You clearly stated that you thought the Red Sox were/are better than the Yanks that's why i said what i did. All I'm saying is that, just because you have a good team of superstar's on paper, doesn't mean you will win it all or beat the team your trying to overtake. Hell the Yanks proved that against Florida last year, and the D-Backs a couple years before that.

[Excellance of Execution]

BTW Stima, i feel your pain. I'm a Bills fan :'( I know exactly what it's like not to be able to win the big games.

[Azriel]

Well, in all honesty, I don't think there's an actual curse, but Boston and the rest of the Sox carry that stigma with them maybe subconsciously and that is what's making them lose. I for one, wouldn't mind seeing them win one and then they can just shut the hell up already.

[DegenerationY]

Thought this picture was kind of funny, lol

http://www.consumptionjunction.com/downloadsnew/cj_38728.jpg

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Just like I have always said, rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Brad Pitt to get the girl

[VonErich Lives]

Just like I have always said, rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Brad Pitt to get the girl

Did you hear the Danny Ainge story?

Apperetnly Danny Ainge saw Curt somewhere when there was talk he was going to leave Arizona and he was deciding between the Yanks and Sox.

He told Curt something like "Yeha, you can go to NY and be another guy who wins another ring, or you can go to Boston and be 'the guy' who finally won one"

nice sales pitch... wonder if he useses that one when recruting for the celtics :)

[Loose Cannon]

Just like I have always said, rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Brad Pitt to get the girl

WELL obvisously you didn't have to sit through the shit they produced before 94. They won their last Championship the year before I was born and I had to sit through about 9 years of crap and basement dwelling teams. I can see where you're coming from, but it's not like Boston hasn't had oppurtunites to win. There just as good as the Yankees.

But those who jumped on the Bandwagon after 96 can :foc: off

[Excellance of Execution]

I've been a Yankee's fan since the mid-eighties. Actually at first if was a big Don Mattingly fan, so that transformed me into a Yankee fan. I've seen many of the low's. I'm definately not a bandwagon jumper. Actually if you want to find out who bandwagon jumper's are all you have to do is ask Patriot fan's who their QB was before Bledsoe and Brady. They probably wouldn't be able to tell you it was.......











Scott Zolak.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

How would not knowing who the QB was before Bledsoe make you a bandwagon fan though? Bledoe was drafted in like what, 1993? They didn't win a Superbowl until a few years ago

ALSO GROGAN = THE TRUTH Guy wore a fucking neckroll hahaha

[VonErich Lives]

I've been a Yankee's fan since the mid-eighties. Actually at first if was a big Don Mattingly fan, so that transformed me into a Yankee fan. I've seen many of the low's. I'm definately not a bandwagon jumper. Actually if you want to find out who bandwagon jumper's are all you have to do is ask Patriot fan's who their QB was before Bledsoe and Brady. They probably wouldn't be able to tell you it was.......











Scott Zolak.


Actually, try again... Scott Secules was the starting QB in 1993 the year bledsoe was drafted and the last QB to start before Drew.

Secules was one of Parcells big signings his first offseason... and yeah, it didn't work out so well.

and yes, Zolak did start a few in 1996, but the actually starter that year was still Hugh Millen and his backup was Tom Hodson... but when your on a 2-14 pace you try anything.

[VonErich Lives]

What changed for the Yanks is free agency allowed George to go after whoever he wanted. While both the Sox and the Yanks are big market teams, Yankee stadium I think holds around 55K where fenway is mid to high 30's. Plus George's Yes net work and personal funds allow him to spend what he wants.

This changed recently for the sox, the new owners are getting every penny they can from this team and putting it into payroll (Well, after their loan payment).

the sox had some good teams in the 80's... and got beat by the mets and late 80's faced a better Oakland team.

It's that simple... the curse is just a refrence point to the last win... that's all...

I mean, the sox had ruth in 1919, but didn't win... so how could Ruth be the curse?

[VonErich Lives]

How would not knowing who the QB was before Bledsoe make you a bandwagon fan though? Bledoe was drafted in like what, 1993? They didn't win a Superbowl until a few years ago

ALSO GROGAN = THE TRUTH Guy wore a fucking neckroll hahaha

Because the team didn't start to get good until after Bledsoe. Superbowl isn't the only thing to make you a good team... They made the playoffs and in 1996 won the AFC...

Heck, I'm a die-hard pats fan... I remember Dic Macpherson and Rod Rust and the last days of Berry when he was talking to himself in the bathroom...

Eason, and more QB's then I care to talk about... wasted draft picks... ugh... I need a drink.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yea I don't really remember too much before Bledsoe, I was pretty young.

I remember Secules now that you brought him up though.

[el fregadero]

Pretty sick move being rained out like that.

[VonErich Lives]

Pretty sick move being rained out like that.

happened last year also... (got to meet guliani because of it).

Anyway... yeah, this does help the sox, gives pedro a chance to pitch game 5 of 4days rest instead of 3.

Plus, they had schilling pitching yesterday trying a new brace.. so who knows...

[Excellance of Execution]

Actually, try again... Scott Secules was the starting QB in 1993 the year bledsoe was drafted and the last QB to start before Drew.

Secules was one of Parcells big signings his first offseason... and yeah, it didn't work out so well.

and yes, Zolak did start a few in 1996, but the actually starter that year was still Hugh Millen and his backup was Tom Hodson... but when your on a 2-14 pace you try anything.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but Bledsoe was the starter from day one when he was drafted. Zolak wouldn't have started in 96 unless Bledsoe was hurt. Being a Bills fan, i still alway's liked Bledsoe, so i followed the Pat's a little to see how Bledsoe was doing. I do recall Hugh Millen, but i don't really remember Secules, so that goes to show how much he accomplished.

[VonErich Lives]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but Bledsoe was the starter from day one when he was drafted. Zolak wouldn't have started in 96 unless Bledsoe was hurt. Being a Bills fan, i still alway's liked Bledsoe, so i followed the Pat's a little to see how Bledsoe was doing. I do recall Hugh Millen, but i don't really remember Secules, so that goes to show how much he accomplished.

Parcells brought in Secules to start while bledose would be brought along slowly, problem is Secules sucked.

Millen was gone before Bledsoe got there, but was the start QB for I'm gonna say maybe 2 years... if I recall he was kinda the transition from Grogan.

Anyway, back to the Sox... Schilling pitched w/ a high top cleet and no brace from the pen yesterday and reports are was able to throw properly and w/o problem.

So, now there's talk you might see him in a game 6 or 7 situation in NY (if the sox get that far).

[YOUR Hero]

The stadium sizes have nothing to do with why the Yankees are able to buy so many free agents. IThat's a minor factor compared to all the TV revenue they get. The Yankees get so money cash just within New York by TV and Radio that it's ridiculous.

[VonErich Lives]

The stadium sizes have nothing to do with why the Yankees are able to buy so many free agents. IThat's a minor factor compared to all the TV revenue they get. The Yankees get so money cash just within New York by TV and Radio that it's ridiculous.

Yes, TV, Radio and STADIUM SIZE! When you can sell out 55K times 82 v. 38K (I think now it's around 38K for the sox) that's almost 20K more tickets a game for 82 games... Yes, that make a difference... 20K more tickets, 20K more sodas, hotdogs, beer, etc...

The Sox new owners have been spending near the same as the Yanks the last few seasons because they figured out how to maximize the money, like the old owners never did.

NESN (the Red Sox version of "yes") used to be a pay station, it no longer is. It's basic cable, which allows more people to watch and more ads to be sold.

Monster seats, 2-3 new front row seats, right field roof w/ tables, and a huge bar, and top of the line food. New conessions, a new conssesion section, better food, quality, choices, etc... All things the old owners never could or wanted to do.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

The stadium sizes have nothing to do with why the Yankees are able to buy so many free agents. IThat's a minor factor compared to all the TV revenue they get. The Yankees get so money cash just within New York by TV and Radio that it's ridiculous.
Boston makes a shitload of money off that stuff too, obviously not as much as the Yankees, but they do make a considerable amount of money there too.

I pretty much agree with what Vel said in the post above about Stadium size, just think of how much more money a team makes off everything, tickets, food, etc

[YOUR Hero]

I'm not syaing it's not a factor, but it's still a minor factor when you compare it to the revenue generated by the TV and radio deals. A place like Colorado used to sell out all the time, have 5 million fans a year or something crazy like that, but they could never compete with the likes of the Yankees in terms of buying free agents, simply because their TV rights, which might be OK, are nothing compared to the money the Yankees command.

[Loose Cannon]

DON'T FUCK THIS UP BROWN YOU JACKASS :mad:

[Loose Cannon]

LOL, Fuckin Damon cutting his toe nails during the ALCS. WTF IS THAT?

[Loose Cannon]

A-ROD: YARD, 4-4

[RoXer]

6-6

[Loose Cannon]

It's going to be one of "Those Games" Gonna go to like 1 am

[Loose Cannon]

SHEFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF :love: :love: :love:

[Loose Cannon]

DAMMIT, NOT WAKEFIELD. HATE THIS DUDE.

[RoXer]

11-6 and it's like the second inning.

[DaveWadding]

its the 4th, Radd.

[Yashamaga]

I don't get it

why can't they just win one time

[Yashamaga]

I just want my grandparents to be alive when they win it you know, they're big fans

and its just never gonna fuckin happen is it

[el fregadero]

LOL, Fuckin Damon cutting his toe nails during the ALCS. WTF IS THAT?
LOL yeah I was cracking up when they showed that.

[MVP]

Oh well, at least we can count on the Patriots destroying the Jets next Sunday.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

LOL damn good thing I was out gettin hamemred during this game, probably woulda been killin myself tonight

Fuckin Red Sox though, god damn, Matsui is dicking smacking them like little bitches...ridiculous

[VonErich Lives]

oh well... shit happens...

I tip my hat to the yankees...

The Yanks got to the rotation and the pen and injury... Wake never should have been in that long, but there was no choice,


I'll still go to tomorrows game... the Sox will probably win... knowing the sox, they'll win 4 and 5, just to tease use and drop #6 in NY.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I really think they are getting swept, Yankees just have been bitching smacking them this whole series.

Oh well, I didn't have the same "feeling" this year as I did last year. I really thought they were going to win it all last year. This year though I dont know, it was a weird year, the expectations where really high and they were actually delievering to the start the season. I mean that happens a lot, but I felt good because they had a lot of injuries, but then they went on that huge slump towards the middle of the season. Once that happened I could kinda tell this year it wasn't going to happen.

Will be intresting to see what happens this off season, I personally see the Yankees improving their pitching staff, and I am not really sure what the Sox are going to do but I am sure they are going to be pulling off something.

Also Francona should be shown the exit, he is playing scared in the playoffs. He isn't doing things the sameway he did it during the season, isnt using the bench at all. He used the bench, and won towards the end of the year. Now he isn't making any subs at all.

[VonErich Lives]

I felt better this year... Defense and Pitching, the same things that helped the Yanks win.

I dunno, a sweep wouldn't suprise me... neither would it going back to NY 3-2...

I dunno... I know they have the talent... the problem is, curt going out in the 3rd of the first game killed the pen for the series... and tonight made it even worse...

oh well... off season... Sox #1 priority should be Teck... and #2 I'd still go for Pedro for the right deal.

I think OC is a free agent and so is Pokey.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

OC is a free agent? I thought he wasnt?

Maybe I am thinking of Doug M. tho

[MoRcHeEbA]

I hear they're selling babe ruths bat that he hit his first homerun in yankee stadium with... maybe you should buy it and destroy it VEL... THUS KILLING THE CURSE.

[Molly fan 25]

Wow I have never seen a team blow it like the Red Sox are, you fans must be proud.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I felt better this year... Defense and Pitching, the same things that helped the Yanks win.

I dunno, a sweep wouldn't suprise me... neither would it going back to NY 3-2...

I dunno... I know they have the talent... the problem is, curt going out in the 3rd of the first game killed the pen for the series... and tonight made it even worse...

oh well... off season... Sox #1 priority should be Teck... and #2 I'd still go for Pedro for the right deal.

I think OC is a free agent and so is Pokey.

Orlando C and Pokey Reese are free agents? What team does Reese play for now? I thought he used to be on Boston.

[VonErich Lives]

I hear they're selling babe ruths bat that he hit his first homerun in yankee stadium with... maybe you should buy it and destroy it VEL... THUS KILLING THE CURSE.

Listen my boogie boarding mountie friend.

There is no curse... A curse is just something used as a time stamp to justify losing to better teams or chocking in big games.

People forget, the Sox had Ruth in 1919 and didn't win the WS...

OC is a free agent? I thought he wasnt?

Maybe I am thinking of Doug M. tho

I dunno, I thought OC was... maybe you're right on that one..

Orlando C and Pokey Reese are free agents? What team does Reese play for now? I thought he used to be on Boston.

He still is.

[VonErich Lives]

So, turns out I got the row 2, not row 1, tickets today... which means less leg room and no spot to put down my beer...

Oh well... I can't decide what to wear......

a) A shirt that says "I'm an orphan, will the Yankees be my daddy too?"

b) A brown bag over the head, w/ the eyes/mouth cut out and "Space for rent"

c) My Roger Clemens Houston Astros jersey.

[Loose Cannon]

The funniest thing about that 1919 Red Sox team that people also might not remember is that you had 3 Future Hall of Famers who you traded to the Yankees in Ruth, Hoyt and Pennock.

And you had a Should be Hall of Famer in Carl Mays. Also traded to the Yankees a little later.

[VonErich Lives]

The funniest thing about that 1919 Red Sox team that people also might not remember is that you had 3 Future Hall of Famers who you traded to the Yankees in Ruth, Hoyt and Pennock.

And you had a Should be Hall of Famer in Carl Mays. Also traded to the Yankees a little later.

Traded? You mean sold... I was trying to explain it to "newbie fans" last night.

The sox owner backed a play or musical called "no-no nannette" and it bombed and he needed the cash.

[VonErich Lives]

Stima, I found a recent gammons article, OC is a free agent.

On a side note, 2005 is kinda ugly free agent wise also...

Damon, Wakefield, Embree, Timlin, Millar, Mueller, Mendoza... and there's probably a few others...

Going to be interesting to see how they shape this team over the next few years... Let's remember, a lot of guys are "retreads" or coming off injury... Millar was saved from Japan, Mueller was coming off injury... these guys are gonna want big bucks.

I wouldn't be shocked to see the socks go after Beltran, even though he has Borus for an agent, to cover themselves incase Damon goes the next year.

I also think the Yanks would make a serious play for Beltran since Bernie isn't getting any younger.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I was hoping the Sox where going to trade for Beltran this season, but they never did.

The Sox added defense, but they hardly even used it in the playoffs, Reese and Doug M (still can't spell his last name lol) never even got off the bench. Millar and Bellhorn played every game all game pretty much, I don't understand why they left Bellhorn in either. He is batting like .111

Do you think Francona is gone after this season? I really have never been sold on him at all, but towards the end of the year he started to change what he was doing and I liked it. But then in the playoffs he went back to not using the bench, or not using certain guys in any spots anymore because he was scared and didnt want to take his "best bats" out.

[Loose Cannon]

Traded? You mean sold... I was trying to explain it to "newbie fans" last night.

The sox owner backed a play or musical called "no-no nannette" and it bombed and he needed the cash.

Yeah, meant to say sold, just didn't feel like going back and editing.

The Yankees had thier fair share of screwups with ownership too in the 40's and 50's

Could of had Mays, Aaaron and Mantle as an outfield. Dam racist owners

[Loose Cannon]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/gammons/story?id=1875672

I don't know if that's the article you read VEL, but it covers all the free agents for 2005.

Pedro is also one. Don't know if you knew that cause I didn't see him on your list up there.

[VonErich Lives]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/gammons/story?id=1875672

I don't know if that's the article you read VEL, but it covers all the free agents for 2005.

Pedro is also one. Don't know if you knew that cause I didn't see him on your list up there.

Sorry, when I said 2005, I meant end of the 2005 season, the guys I listed are then.

I know about Pedro this year... Teck, Lowe, Williamson, Reese, OC.

I want to see them resighn Teck, OC, Reese and if the deal is right Pedro.

[VonErich Lives]

I was hoping the Sox where going to trade for Beltran this season, but they never did.

The Sox added defense, but they hardly even used it in the playoffs, Reese and Doug M (still can't spell his last name lol) never even got off the bench. Millar and Bellhorn played every game all game pretty much, I don't understand why they left Bellhorn in either. He is batting like .111

Do you think Francona is gone after this season? I really have never been sold on him at all, but towards the end of the year he started to change what he was doing and I liked it. But then in the playoffs he went back to not using the bench, or not using certain guys in any spots anymore because he was scared and didnt want to take his "best bats" out.

I never liked Tito from day 1, didn't think he was a good choice.

Do they keep him? Depends on who is available and how pissed schilling will be, since Tito is supposed to be a big reason Curt came here.

La Russa has said if STL wins the WS, he'll coach them next year for free. He doesn't have a contract next year... if he tests the market and I'm the sox, I give him a blank check.

[Loose Cannon]

I see them resigning Teck because he's like one of thier "boys," if you want to call it that. He's like the leader of the team.

Pedro is gone and I think Lowe is too.

Should be fun to see what Nomar does.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Listen my boogie boarding mountie friend.

There is no curse... A curse is just something used as a time stamp to justify losing to better teams or chocking in big games.

People forget, the Sox had Ruth in 1919 and didn't win the WS...



I dunno, I thought OC was... maybe you're right on that one..



He still is.

I did not know that since I haven't seen Reese in many Red Sox games I thought they got rid of him like Garciapalla or whatever his name is I think that's his name. Oh by the way I don't think Orlando C is a free agent. Not according to LC'S article at least. :$ I must have missed it :$ Jason Varitek and Pedro seem like good choices for free agents.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I did not know that since I haven't seen Reese in many Red Sox games I thought they got rid of him like Garciapalla or whatever his name is I think that's his name. Oh by the way I don't think Orlando C is a free agent. Not according to LC'S article at least. :$ I must have missed it :$ Jason Varitek and Pedro seem like good choices for free agents.
LOL

I dunno, this post made me laugh

Anyways, I don't think Orlando will be that hard to sign, I think he is really having a good time here. Everyone was saying how he was "out of it" with the Expos because they were so bad, now he's with a good team with probably his 2 best friends in the majors, Ortiz and Manny. I doubt he would leave, but you never know I guess

[The Miz]

2005 Lineups

New York
C Posada
1B Giambi
2B Polanco
3B Rodriguez
SS Jeter
LF Matsui
CF Beltran
RF Sheffield
DH Sierra/Williams

1. Mussina
2. Pavano
3. Millwood
4. Lieber
5. Hernandez

Boston
C Varitek
1B Mientkiewicz
2B Bellhorn/Reese
3B Beltre
SS Cabrera
LF Ramirez
CF Damon
RF Alou
DH Ortiz

1. Schilling
2. Benson
3. Milton
4. Wakefield
5. Arroyo

[Loose Cannon]

I don't know, I have a feeling Vazquez will be really good next year and will be their #2 guy. Giambi, who knows if he'll ever be the same again. Beltran is the guy I'm hearing is Stein's #1 priority.

As for Boston, Benson is a head case. I wouldn't give the guy a contract. You don't know what the hell you're getting with him. But he could be LIKE Lowe from 2002, or was it 03, when he won like 20 games.

[YOUR Hero]

Miz, don't overlook Delgado... for either team.

[John la Rock]

Man the Red Sox really dropped the ball against New York. 19-8? Common. it's the fucking playoffs AT HOME. Boston's pitching (minus Pedro who threw a good game in game 2) has been god awful. Yanks will hopefully meet Houston in the finals.

And speaking of Houston. I'm postitive that Big Stein will go after Beltran. As LC stated, Bernie is getting old and Beltran would be the perfect replacement (Young, gold glove caliber, and 40/40 man) I'm about 95% positive that Beltran will wear pinstripes next year.

[John la Rock]

Miz, don't overlook Delgado... for either team.

ya Delgado is certaintly not going back to TO unless he takes a $5-10 million dollar pay cut.

I actually see Carlos playing in Atlanta or Los Angeles next year

[The Miz]

Delgado's value has gone way down after all the injuries

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Oh man I'd love to have Beltre at 3rd

[Loose Cannon]

I love Bernie though. He, Rivera and Jeter are the 3 last remianing Yankees from what I call the "Golden Era," 96-2001. I miss those days :(

But Beltran is pretty fricken good.

[The Miz]

What about Posada

[VonErich Lives]

Oh by the way I don't think Orlando C is a free agent. Not according to LC'S article at least. :$ I must have missed it :$

Yeah, look under SS in the article, it's the first name!

[VonErich Lives]

As LC stated, Bernie is getting old and Beltran would be the perfect replacement

I also think the Yanks would make a serious play for Beltran since Bernie isn't getting any younger.


*cough, cough* a little credit... I don't have much else today to hold onto! :)

I see Beltran going to the Yanks, although the Stros could make a run at him, if they decided to go after Clemens again and you have pettite coming back.

I think the Sox go after Pavano... and I really wouldn't be shocked for Pedro to give the Sox a home town discount... As tough as it is to play here, he fits in w/ the players and the press understands him and when to leave him alone and such....

Yeah, OC really seems to like it here, but money talks...
and the sox will only go so far, because unlike george who owns the team outright, the Sox owners (Henry/Warner) have loan payments that have to be made, so they do reach a point they have to stop. Plus, Theo had said they didn't want to be over the luxury tax 2yrs in a row, I think the MLB rule is, if you go over 2yrs in a row your tax % doubles.

ok, leaning twords my Clemens Astros jersey and a bag over myhead tonight... problem is, there really good seats and the owner might not find it funny if I show up on national TV in his seats w/ a bag over my head and a Clemens astros jersey... Plus, what to put on the bag...

"Space for rent"
"Face hidden to protect the red sox fan"
"I've been orphaned, Yankees will you adopt me?"

[Hardkore Kidd J]

LOL

I dunno, this post made me laugh

Anyways, I don't think Orlando will be that hard to sign, I think he is really having a good time here. Everyone was saying how he was "out of it" with the Expos because they were so bad, now he's with a good team with probably his 2 best friends in the majors, Ortiz and Manny. I doubt he would leave, but you never know I guess

I wasn't trying to be funny. But oh, well I get a lot of people who laugh at me when I make stupid comments. Hell sometimes I even laugh at myself.

Off topic: New England Patriots rule

[BCWWF]

Beltran is the type of character who they are saying might not want to play in a huge market such as New York (example Vlad last year). At the same time, if they offer him anything it will probably be too good to turn down.

[Loose Cannon]

What about Posada

Oh yeah. forgot him :o I was thinking Girardi.

[Azriel]

Actually LC Bernie's the oldest of them. I think he was just beginning when Mattingly had his last year.

[VonErich Lives]

Actually LC Bernie's the oldest of them. I think he was just beginning when Mattingly had his last year.

Remember when he used Duqette to get more money from George?

Was going to the sox for like 100-million and endedup staying w/ ny for like 105-million.

Side note, Borus will push Beltran to go for the money... but, don't be shocked if Baltimore becomes a contender... They have money, are a decent market, but not the same coverage and press/fans as NY or Boston.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well atleast we got the Patriots and their 20 staright victories

[BCWWF]

To me, this is how I feel about the Yankees:

When I think of the team from when they were winning the World Series in the late 1990's, they were a different style of team. They may or may not have had the single best player at his position, but they still had eight guys who would go out, were damn good, and everybody knew. There was something about those guys though, like they were Yankee's and they were superior to everybody else.

I don't look at them the same way anymore. Now I look at their team as a bunch of high priced free agents that they bring in from other teams. Granted back then a lot of their guys were brought in as high priced free agents, but they were different. Mike Mussina and Roger Clemens compared to Javier Vazques and Jon Lieber. They aren't even on the same level.

The guys on the Yankee's right now that I think fit into what I consider a Yankee are:
Jeter
A-Rod
Matsui
Giambi
Bernie
Mussina
Brown
Gordon
Rivera

Sheffield is not a Yankee to me. He is one of the best players around, but he sold out to pinstriped. He was always the hardcore guy going around kicking ass for the Dodgers and Braves and Marlins I think it was? Now he's just some random guy on the Yankee's, he doesn't hold the same effect as if he's on a normal team. Posada just isn't good enough anymore. Kenny Lofton is the same thing as Sheffield. Vazquez, Lieber, Loaiza, and most of the bullpen just don't cut it, they aren't good enough to be held on the higher plateau that the rest of the Yankee's are.

Just to me the guys the Yankee's have been picking up are not on par with what they used to have. I really don't think theres a better place for A-Rod than in New York, and Kevin Brown fits into that auro perfectly aswell, kind of like Clemens did when he came.

Here are some guys that could become Yankee's that I think would fit into their aura:
Todd Helton
Mike Liebrathal
Joe Mauer
Garret Anderson
Eric Byrnes
Ichiro
Larry Walker

Obviously its doubtful that any of these guys ever actually join the Yankees, but just to me there is something about the typical Yankee player that a lot of their current players just don't satisfy. There are no Paul O'Niels or Scott Brosious's left, no David Justice, Chuck Knoblauch, Tino Martinez. I just think that those guys I listed would fit the Yankee aura.

And I hate people that say the Yankee's suck and are bad for baseball. Its one thing to root against them, but to say they are bad for baseball is pretty rediculous. Having a team like the Yankee's makes it a focal point for the whole league, they are the one team, they play in the historical stadium, one of the biggest cities in the world, most successful team ever. If you don't have a team with that tradition then it changes every year. That may make it exciting on a different level, but there is nothing in the world that equals a team like the Twins or the A's beating the Yankees, or a team like the Marlins or Diamondbacks. If the best team in the AL had been the Angels and the Marlins beat them in the World Series, it just wouldn't matter nearly as much as if it did for the Yankees. And sure they go out and buy some real expensive players, but collective bargaining is in the works now, slowing that down. You're damn right I would be pissed if the Yankee's offered Joe Maurer 20 million and took him from the Twins, but if they do that is part of the game and there has to be a way to work around it. The Yankees don't win every game of the year and don't win every World Series either, until they do I think they are A-OK for baseball.

[BCWWF]

For those who don't want to read that: I don't look at the Yankee's the same way as I used to but I don't think they are bad for baseball.

[Dragon]

I don't really agree with Sheffield just being some random guy now that hes on the Yankees and not having the same effect as if he were on a normal team. I would say he's had a pretty huge effect on them this year, he was basically carrying the offense and the team earlier in the season.

[Loose Cannon]

Actually LC Bernie's the oldest of them. I think he was just beginning when Mattingly had his last year.

I know, that's why I included him. He began in 95.

[BCWWF]

I'm by no means saying he isn't a great player or that he isn't having a great year. I just mean that he isn't the type of player, in character not in skill, that is a Yankee.

[The Miz]

The guys on the Yankee's right now that I think fit into what I consider a Yankee are:
Jeter
A-Rod
Matsui
Giambi
Bernie
Mussina
Brown
Gordon
Rivera
Why the hell is Giambi in there? He is the ultimate sellout, he changed his look personality, and his team for the big bucks. If you'll remember back to like 1998-2000, the A's were a wild bunch, led by the long haired, bearded, beer guzzling, fowlmouthed Jason Giambi. Now he's the just another clean cut minion of Steinbrenners army.

Here are some guys that could become Yankee's that I think would fit into their aura:
Todd Helton
Mike Liebrathal
Joe Mauer
Garret Anderson
Eric Byrnes
Ichiro
Larry Walker
Can you expand on why you picked these guys, ESPECIALLY Ichiro and Byrnes?

[Loose Cannon]

lol at Dennis Leary.

And I agree with you BCWWF on how the Yankees aren't the same from the mid-late 90's pertaining to how they built their team.

I think the 98 Yankees are exactly how you build a Championship Team. Kind of like the 03 Marlins.

[BCWWF]

I randomly named a few guys who I think fit the Yankee's image more than Sheffield, Cairo, Lofton and company. I didn't say any of them were going to be Yankees, but why are you so confident that Eric Byrnes never ends up on the Yankees? They've lose Damon, Isringhausen, Giambi, Tejada, and Ramon Hernandez in recent years, I don't consider any of their players a lock to stay there forever.

[Loose Cannon]

A-ROD is my favorite player :love:

[Loose Cannon]

LOL Damon threw the ball back and they threw it back again.

[Azriel]

2-0 Yankees baby. I must admit, I was one of the people who hated the idea A-Rod was coming to the Yanks since I heard these stories about his bad attitude and what not, but he's a pretty cool guy.

[The Miz]

I randomly named a few guys who I think fit the Yankee's image more than Sheffield, Cairo, Lofton and company. I didn't say any of them were going to be Yankees, but why are you so confident that Eric Byrnes never ends up on the Yankees? They've lose Damon, Isringhausen, Giambi, Tejada, and Ramon Hernandez in recent years, I don't consider any of their players a lock to stay there forever.
When did I say I was confident about Byrnes not becoming a Yankee.. I was asking why you considered him to fit the Yankee image.

[Azriel]

Stupid El Duque, 3-2 Boston

[YOUR Hero]

I think I just saw VEL at the Red Sox game. He was wearing a paperbag of his head and it said "Who's my Daddy" on it. Why do I think it was VEL? Cause the guy was fat and sweaty looking.

[Loose Cannon]

Duque is the man.

Joe Buck is hillarious with some of his one liners.

Like last night they gave Jeter an error on a tough play and he goes "Omar Viquel must be keeping score."

Just now they showd Torre in the dugout grabbing a bat and Buck goes "Torre wants to hit." I know it sounds stupid, but it's one of those stupid lol's

Yea

[RoXer]

I think Joe Buck has to be one of my favorite play-by-play commentators.

"SLAMMALAMA *ding* DING DONG!!!!"

[Innovator]

hmmm, so Carlos Beltran is a free agent? bye bye Cairo

[YOUR Hero]

Isn't Soriano a free agent at the end of this year as well?

[YOUR Hero]

*next year(?)

[Loose Cannon]

First, Beltran plays Center, not Cairo. So it has no effect on Cairo.

Second, NO. Soriano becomes a Free Agent after 2006.

[el fregadero]

Like last night they gave Jeter an error on a tough play and he goes "Omar Viquel must be keeping score."
lol

[Splaya]

THIS SHIT IS CRAZY :)

[Splaya]

LC, Bases Loaded. David Ortiz :mad:

[Splaya]

DAmn it. That's ok though. Because if the Red sox can keep a game close tommorow (if they win game 4) then if Rivera has to come in for game 5, he will be so tired.

[MoRcHeEbA]

yeah cause riviera throwing one inning should just tucker him right out.

[el fregadero]

He threw two, but he still won't be tired if there actually is a game tomorrow.

[Splaya]

Yeah but he threw 39 pitches

[Innovator]

Bases Loaded, 2 outs, top of 11th, Bernie up

[Splaya]

This game is going on 5 hours :rant:

[RoXer]

KID SOX ARE TIED RIGHT NOW BUT I AINT SWEATIN IT!!

[Innovator]

Fuck it, I need to study, END THIS FUCKING GAME SOMEONE

[RoXer]

Finally, I can go to sleep.

:LOVE: ORTIZ

[Splaya]

FUCK YES. FUCK YOU ROXER.




DAVID MOTHERFUCKING ORTIZ :love: :love::love::love::love::love::love::love::love::love::love::love::love::love::love::love::love::lov e::love::love::love::love::love::love:

[Innovator]

Thats why I hate David Ortiz

[Splaya]

Oh man, what a day and its just beginning


It's almost like a doubleheader now

[Innovator]

Both bullpens are gonna be hurting in 15 1/2 hours

[Jerichoholic]

Even though it is still 3-1.

I love Big Papi...lots.

[Boondock Saint]

Ortiz is the man.

[Apprentice]

I loved the fan who was holding that sign up that said "Greatest Comeback in History". Thats why I love Red Sox fans... so delusional, but thats what you want from a fan. Someone who never gives up hope even when things look the worst. Props to you Boston!

[toxic rooster]

I made my brother put 10 bucks on the Sox to win the world series

Maybe I should learn something about baseball first :$

[VonErich Lives]

I think I just saw VEL at the Red Sox game. He was wearing a paperbag of his head and it said "Who's my Daddy" on it. Why do I think it was VEL? Cause the guy was fat and sweaty looking.

Sweaty my ass... it was like 40 out... everyone thought I was nuts for not having more then a football jersey on..

finally about the 4th, I bought those hand warmer bags for my row... I used one some of the game, just to feel my finger tips.

[Yashamaga]

Pedro today, Schilling tommorow

hmmmm....don't buy those WS tickets yet Yankees fans

[Loose Cannon]

FUCKIN SHIT. Screw Boston fans and their "We Believe" crap and their wearing Yankee hats. What is that shit? Wear your own god dam hats.

I hope we end this in NY. Quantrill you jackass.

[el fregadero]

Pedro today, Schilling tommorow

hmmmm....don't buy those WS tickets yet Yankees fans
lol No way Boston wins this series.

(though I am still rooting for them)

[Splaya]

Just read about schilling. Holy shit. But who would go if there was a game 7? Would it be Arroyo or Wakefield. Here's what I would do. I would start Derek Lowe, then when Lowe got tired, bring in Pedro, then Timlin, then Foulke.

[VonErich Lives]

Just read about schilling. Holy shit. But who would go if there was a game 7? Would it be Arroyo or Wakefield. Here's what I would do. I would start Derek Lowe, then when Lowe got tired, bring in Pedro, then Timlin, then Foulke.

it would be Arroyo to start most likely w/ Wake out of the pen.

There is a chance where Wake is the Knckleballer he could start... but that will also depend on what happens w/ curt on tuesday.

This all would require a win tonight.

[VonErich Lives]

FUCKIN SHIT. Screw Boston fans and their "We Believe" crap and their wearing Yankee hats. What is that shit? Wear your own god dam hats.

I hope we end this in NY. Quantrill you jackass.

No, the hats boston fans wear that look like a N/Y is a Y/H = "Yankee Hater"

Schilling had one on at a bruins game early in the season and everyone wigged out cause they thought he had on a Yankees hat, but he confirmed it was a Yankee Hater hat, Y/H not N/Y.

[Champion of Europa]

That was a hot game. I stayed up for the entire thing, and I'm at school right now, exhausted. I marked out hardcore because of Ortiz. :heart:

Cmon Sox. All I want is for the Sox to win this game, anything on top of that is gravy.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I stayed up till the end of the 11th, and I was like, "Fuck, I'm not gonna get any sleep at this rate." (as at that point I was only gonna get, like, 4 hours of sleep). So I went to bed and then an inning later Ortiz blasts one out. :o

Fuckin' awesome game though.</font>

[Loose Cannon]

Alright, Fuck this game. Let's just get back to NY already. Can't stand this cheering anymore.

[Innovator]

seriously LC, the cheering is driving me fucking nuts

[Loose Cannon]

The Red Sox remind me of a bunch of Frat guys. Frat guys who come up with really bad phrases.

[MVP]

:lol: Mussina is going to crack under pressure.

[Loose Cannon]

LOL at Sheffield's comments. They really are a bunch of characters.

[MVP]

Throwing a foul ball off a Yankee player's bat back into the field is pretty stupid. Hardcore Sox fans are just as bad, if not worse than hardcore Yankee fans.

[RoXer]

Again, Joe Buck is one of my favorite announcers


Joe Buck: "Varitek couldn't make anything happen from the left side of the plate, and now he can't make anything happen from the right...he's running out of options"

:love:

[Loose Cannon]

LOL. YES

[Loose Cannon]

JETER :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

[Loose Cannon]

MR. CLUTCH

[MVP]

FUCK I knew we were screwed if Cairo got on base :mad:

[Loose Cannon]

YEAH, hit another guy after they score on you. DICK

[Dragon]

Now Pedro hits A-Rod.

[Loose Cannon]

BIGGEST DICK EVER.

[Dragon]

Crazy slide by Cairo, BTW.

[MVP]

Now Matsui is up with bases loaded....

[Jerichoholic]

Of course he is a dick.

All great pitchers pretty much are.

[MVP]

HOLY SHIT Bellhorn actually hit the ball. :eek:

[Loose Cannon]

wow, you couldn't be more wrong there. Like, you're not even close with that comment.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I think Cairo might have actaully been out but I dunno, one replay looked safe, another one looked like VTek got him with the tag right before he touched home.

[Dragon]

Yeah, it looked close when I first saw. The first replay actually looked like he was out, but the second one looked like he was safe. I dunno.

[Dragon]

Not really too confident in Gordon with the way he's been pitching.

[Loose Cannon]

6 OUTS LEFT. COME ON.

[Dragon]

I left for a few minutes and the score's 4-3 now, what happened?

[Boondock Saint]

Sweeeeeeet 4-4

[Apprentice]

Ortiz homered, millar walked, nixon singled.

[MVP]

Top of the order. C'monnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Sox

[Gonzo]

4-4..extra innings?

[Dragon]

Extra innings again. Top of the order coming up for the Yankees.

[Gonzo]

I want to see the Sox force a game 7.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

LOL@ Who's your dealer chant with Sheff up at bad

[Boondock Saint]

WTF. Bullshit call

[MVP]

Yeah really.

[Gonzo]

Big #33 Varitek. Base hit come on...

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

God damn, this is ridiculous

[Apprentice]

Mr. Ramirez with another great fielding play

[Dragon]

Ortiz running, LOL. He actually looked like he might have been safe though.

[Jerichoholic]

Running Papi was Awesome.

Especailly because he was safe.

[Boondock Saint]

WTF. Safe :mad:

[MVP]

Yeah really.

[Apprentice]

Which game will end first? ALCS or NLCS...

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Damn Ortiz was safe

I just think the ump couldn't actually believe Ortiz stole a base, so he called him out

[Boondock Saint]

lol

[Apprentice]

props to brandon backe for having a no hitter till the 6th against the Cards. Two great games at the same time! and no room for football either.

[Innovator]

and onto the 14th

[Innovator]

wow Clark almost did something

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

This is ridiculous

[Innovator]

2 out, 2 on and here comes David "blocking out the sun" Ortiz

[Boondock Saint]

FUCK YEAH BOSOXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

[Splaya]

FUCK YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS :love:

[Innovator]

god I hate Ortiz

[Splaya]

2 out, 2 on and here comes David "blocking out the sun" Ortiz


Ortiz just told you to Suck on that bitch :rant:

[Innovator]

what, the dude blocks out all light, didn't say he wasn't good....bitch

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>SOXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX</FONT>

[Jerichoholic]

YESSSSSSSS.

I love Ortiz so much.

[Dragon]

Damn.

I hate Ortiz so much right now.

[Smitty]

Sox vs. Yanks makes me so emo...Ortiz is my man.

[Boondock Saint]

Ortiz rules all. He is a monster.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Damn figures, we beat Rivera 2 nights in a row but we are still down a game

If The Red Sox do come back and win this series that would be the most ridiculous thing of all time, still a long way to go though.

[Dragon]

Cardinals walked Berkman and then Kent homers in the ninth.

Astros up 3-2.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

LOL the ALCS almost finished after the NCLS hahah thats ridiculous

[MrMeJW]

I made my brother put 10 bucks on the Sox to win the world series

Maybe I should learn something about baseball first :$

Oh no, not 10 bucks... I think you will get by WG

My roommate, the chronic gambler, has 1,000 on the ALCS

[Champion of Europa]

YESSSSSSSS.

I love Ortiz so much.

I would like to expand on that:

I will gladly have his children once the technology becomes available.

[Jerichoholic]

Gay Marriage to Ortiz.

[John la Rock]

WOW. The sox are back in it. never saw this coming

[Champion of Europa]

Gay Marriage to Ortiz.

We should arrange a triple gay marriage. I'm willing to share him if you are.

[BCWWF]

I really hope they do it

[Apprentice]

No, the hats boston fans wear that look like a N/Y is a Y/H = "Yankee Hater"

Schilling had one on at a bruins game early in the season and everyone wigged out cause they thought he had on a Yankees hat, but he confirmed it was a Yankee Hater hat, Y/H not N/Y.


http://www.yankeeshater.com/ballcaps/nyhorns-version.jpg

[VonErich Lives]

I hope they play tonight... I know, both pens could use the rest... but I have more faith in Schill going 8-9 IP then Lieber doing it again... Plus the Sox seem to be hitting the Yanks bullpen well.

Plus, tonight I'd have more faith in Foulke then Rivera... simply becaue Rivera is a power pitcher and is tired, where Foulke (also tired) is not a power pitcher.

[el fregadero]

I actually think the Sox are going to win this series.

Just got that feeling.

[Yashamaga]

lol No way Boston wins this series.

[road doggy dogg]

Haha.

I don't follow baseball at all really, but I figured since it was the playoffs and this is a big heated rivalry, I'd watch the games and all. It's been a pretty hot series. I'm by no means a Sox fan, but the Yankees are fucking awful, and any team that reminds me of the NY Rangers must die. So I've been rooting for the Red Sox to win, and the past two games have been pretty hot. That Ortiz guy is pretty "clutch", as some hip and with-it teen would say.

[el fregadero]

Yeah, I changed my thoughts after watching the last two games.

I thought the Twins were gonna beat the Yankees and that Houston had no chance to beat Atlanta either, so what do I know.

[Dragon]

I think Schilling will blow it tonight. I don't see him going more than 5 innings at the most.

Or he could be really good, but I doubt that will happen.

[Splaya]

Schilling- 8 IP 6H 1ER 8 Strikeouts

Lieber- 5 IP 10 H 4ER 2 SO

[VonErich Lives]

The key tonight... which ever team goes to the bullpen first will lose.

I think NY is in worse shape in the Pen then boston...

Main reason... closers.

Rivera is a power pitcher, and last night he didn't warm up to save his arm and he threw a few good pitches and also threw junk. For him to be effective, he has to blow by guys and hit his spots. 94-95mph.

The flip side is Foulke, who also has pitched more then he ever does and more often, days, and innings and batters and pithcers... difference is... he doesn't throw gas, he's a finence pitcher... the upside is... he's more capable while fatigued to be able to pitch. The downside is, if he doesn't have his "stuff" he's much worse off then Rivera, he'll hang balls over the plate... if he can find it.

either way... it's been soooo much fun to watch... except game #3... they've all been close and good games.

[Dragon]

Lieber has been awesome lately. I don't think he will only go 5 innings. I'm sure he won't pitch as good as he did the other day but he will be decent I think.

I think it all depends on Schilling, because if the brace doesn't help him much and he gets taken out pretty early that is going to be pretty tough for the Sox bullpen to handle.

But I agree that the Sox bullpen is in better shape and if both teams are close when each goes to their bullpen then the Sox have a good chance of taking the game.

But I am still confident the Yankees will take this game, if there is a game 7 though it will be crazy.

[Loose Cannon]

this kid walking in front of me at school today had one of those gay hats on.

OK FINE. 3-2. Now we'll end it where it should end. Right inside the promised land.

[VonErich Lives]

this kid walking in front of me at school today had one of those gay hats on.

OK FINE. 3-2. Now we'll end it where it should end. Right inside the promised land.

Oh yeah.. "gay hats"... why? cause it's not pedro w/ a pacifier?

"Promised land" it was funny, all the Yanks at the game Sunday wanted to end it in fenway "We want to win in your house" which I feel would have been worse for the Sox then droping it in Yankee Stadium.

I'm happy Schill gets a 2nd shot... this is the reason he came here, the game he wanted, etc... etc..

I agree, Schill is a huge key... if either guy gets knocked out before the 7th it's bad news for that team... I can't see one of the pens going 3 or more IP tonight.

I always hate "jumping ahead" but... if the Sox pull it off tonight... who goes game 7?

I assume for the Yanks it's Brown and they'll have Duqe and/or Moose from the pen if Brown gets hit early.

For the sox, it's up in the air... the original thought was Arroyo or Wake.. but w/ both pitching last night... although Wake is a knuckleballer.

The other talk is Lowe on 3days rest w/ Wake and Arroyo ready for long relief.

I really want to see it go 7... see Schill pitch his big game tonight... that and it's been such a great series (minus game #3)... Heck, make it a best of 11 :) skip the NL... just keep the sox/yankes going... :)

[VonErich Lives]

Lieber has been awesome lately.

Yeah, since he's not a "name" like Moose, or Clemens, or Pettie, etc... people over look he's a good pitcher and how good he was before the surgery and how he seems to step it up against the sox.

Tonight will not be a cake walk at all... He wasn't hittable game 2.

[Dragon]

Yeah, the Sox during the first three games look like a different team then from the Sox the last two games also. The bats have picked up when they needed it.

Its gonna be a good game tonight if its not rained out.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I like this whole 3-2 thing. It looks like a good series. I got to say that I give my props to Boston. They're very good as a team the guy who I really gotta give it up for is David Ortiz. That guy is a giant. And for the past few games he was the reason that the Sox won. So I gotta give it up to Sox. I respect them and frankly I kinda wish they'd win the series. You know what I'm going too far with what I just said. I respect them so Red Sox :y: David Ortiz :y: :y: But I am a die hard Yankees fan

[Loose Cannon]

Of course they wanted to end it in Fenway, so did I. We just want to get it over with. But, now that we can end it at home, it's all good.

Yeah Game 7 will be Starting Staff vs Starting Staff. It's going to be sick. Everybody will pitch. And yes, I have been saying that Boston/Yanks should be the dam World Series. I don't know, when the Yankees beat Boston last year it felt like the end. Playing Florida was like anti-climactic, especially when they lost :mad: Boston/Yanks should just be the end.

[Yashamaga]

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[RoXer]

I have a bad feeling about Arroyo. My feeling is that he will screw it up if he is put in the game. That is all.

[VonErich Lives]

I have a bad feeling about Arroyo. My feeling is that he will screw it up if he is put in the game. That is all.

I dunno... he was money last night... 1-2-3 the top of the NY order.

The word is, if Curt gets in trouble Early, Lowe is the man first out of the Pen.

[Yashamaga]

COME ON CURT PLEASE

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I hope Curt gets to do what he hoped to do in Game 1

[Dragon]

Bases loaded for Bellhorn. He will strike out.

[RoXer]

1-oooooooooooooooooo



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[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

All the talk about Schilling and his hightop cleats, and he doesn't even wear them

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

3-0

[RoXer]

3-oooooooooooooo

or

4-oooooooooooooo


Still deciding...

[RoXer]

4-ooooooooooo

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

4-0 EXCELLENT

[Dragon]

Damn

4-0

[MVP]

lol too bad that woman couldn't have just held on to the ball.

[Azriel]

7th inning and Yanks have been shut down. Yeah, this is going to game 7.

[RoXer]

4-1 :(

[Buzzkill]

FUCKRGHIAOPR

[RoXer]

OH GOD ARROYO IS IN THE BULLPEN! :cry:

[BCWWF]

This would be unbelievable. If they take the series, the New York newspapers are going to be priceless...

[BCWWF]

I was under the impression that Arroyo would be starting game 7? Who's that gonna be now?