HOLY CRAP!!!---Rock Band

[darkpower]

Originally Posted by jcmoorehead I'm not exactly sure where I read this but I was always under the impression that Microsoft already does this or at least ensures that additional prephirals are up to a certain standard so that the guitar controllers on the 360 would indeed have full compatibility. I have never actually heard of an issue regarding compatibility in the games and as far as I know they all work. Anybody with an accurate source please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though. As for the Sony blocking the patch deal, it was Harmonix who said it was Activision to blame for the patch not being released. The best news source I've found is this which actually has a statement from Sony which again states that it was Activision who blocked the patch. http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/12/...ix-activi.html

According to that article from IGN I posted before, the 360 compatibility is a weird issue. The GH3 controllers will work with RB, but can't activate anything (like the overdrives, I'm assuming, they only say "Rock Band special effects"). The GH2 controller works with everything, they said (this is probably because GH2 was made while Harmonix still was developing the GH franchise). However, the Rock Band controllers won't play the actual GH3 game (it'll only work the menus, but it won't play the notes). So in short, they are compatable to a point, but don't go thinking that everything will work WITH everything. There has yet to be a remedy to this situation. Of course, KK is taking this as "oh, everything is comatable and MS already made a mandate" when that's not exactly true. I'm not sure where he's getting THAT info, and I would love to know where he found this news.

As for the Sony thing, that article you posted ACTUALLY said that Sony had the patch and was willing to release it until ACTIVISION bitched and blocked the patch, and before anyone says "oh, but Sony has authority", keep in mind HOW Activision could block a patch. If Sony had all this authority, they would've had rumble in their contollers when the system first came out (instead of having to fight a lawsuit). They said it was APPROVED by Sony, which meant that they didn't have any problem with giving the patch (and thus no other reason to "cock block" the patch) to everyone until Activison said no (and they possibly had legal teams ready to go IF Sony decided to release it anyway to fight both Harmonix and Sony). Again, KK is trying to tell us something is there by saying to read "between the lines". Yet, he's whining that I thought there was some "consperiacy" in his neg repping me constantly just because his feelings were hurt.

As for my responses to his "claims", I never claimed to support any one console. You would've remembered me criticizing Sony for alot of things last year. This is typical of some of the 360 Xbots I see alot of on N4G (KK could make some REAL good friends over there, though he'd be eaten alive trying to say some of these things over there by those who "know better". Not sure why he doesn't try to "educate" THEM and why he's so scared of trying ot even GOING there, since he has so much of this "logic" he claims to have). They go and claim all this shit and claim that they aren't a fanboy (yet they are such in a rush to bring up unfounded things about how MS did this and that and this and that when they never did), but whenever YOU come on and make a well thought out, well rounded, MATURE argument that dares to say that Sony did something right or defends them in the LEAST (even OWNING a PS3 is grounds for this to them), or if you dare criticize MS in ANY way, automatically makes you a PS3 fanboy or a "Sony Droid", like that's the only argument they have, then repeat the same thing that was already proven wrong. Even if you are so fair to the other consoles (or if you don't even DEFEND Sony that much and don't like the PS3, they are known also for backstabbing their own kind), you can still get nailed by them for it. Thankfully, these are also people that the other users know about and can easily debunk them. There are also those who try to "hide" their fanboyism by saying a good thing about Sony or something like that, but you can tell that when they are few and far between.

Now, as for me, I would criticize Sony when they do something wrong (I don't think they've been compeditive enough right now, and the PSOne classics that are on the PSN Store (at least in the US version) are few and far between). Also, I own a Wii (bought it before I got the PS3), and I love it for the VC and I wanted it for Metroid Prime 3 (and I wish there would be another Metroid game on there). I do not regret that decision in buying a Wii. And he forgot that I am still wanting the 360 (Fable 2 would be good), even when I have bad feelings due to the RRoD issues and because I don't know what other games I would want (Halo right now doesn't really interest me, I don't get the appeal of it), but I would love to see the Arcade emulation that the 360 has. Thing is, like those same Bots on N4G, that is just suddenly ignored or forgotten if you say anything pro-Sony. It's like you're not allowed to.

I'd have no problem in saying that MS did something right. I have a problem when someone says something that isn't true then try to spin everything to make it mean what they want it to mean while trying to make it look like YOU'RE the one spinning everything and YOU'RE the one that is wrong (you saw how KK was going about trying to say that there was something in the article YOU posted that said that it said what he believed was true when the article even said otherwise (it's called "reaching" in order to keep his argument intact). His argument is now being attacked by another side now, even if it's only mildly, and he's getting scared, but he can't swallow his pride even once, so you're seeing first hand what happens when he can't do that.