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Old 12-09-2010, 10:56 AM   #41
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Do you have a reason for that or is it because he's an internet darling?
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Old 12-09-2010, 11:50 AM   #42
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I've had an idea for a while, but needs some refining.

It would involve the ex-WWE wrestlers "hogging" the spotlight (like they already are). Progressivly, the other wrestlers rebell against them, starting a "WWE vs TNA" fued where the TNA starts go over.

However, stealing from DX a little, to generate some pub for the fued, have the TNA people start showing up at WWE events with cameras and "antagonize" the WWE. Get there name out there. I'm sure you can find a group of WWE fans at any event who will say anything TNA wants them to to get on TV. Do it over and over until WWE has to respond.

Thats the only way I can see TNA getting ahead, by using WWE. Not just there ex-wrestlers, but the company itself.
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Old 12-09-2010, 12:13 PM   #43
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CSL and Purgatory hit it on the nail,

In terms of the immortal angle i think they missed a trick by not having aj styles being the main hero rather than a heel, if there is anyone who can relate or make a crowd emotionally invested in the TNA plight it probably would be him...he is to TNA what sting was to WCW. I guess vince russo must have thought everybody would expect that and he changed the formula...like others have been saying just keep it simple.

TNA reaction is a pretty great show and concept, i think its done well and they should keep it that way.

at the rate this immortal angle is going having jeff hardy as your main antagonist is pretty risky, if he can stay sober he can pull it off well, but with the court charges i suspect any momentum Immortal gained is going to blow up in their face.

They need to capitalize on the internet market more, wwe is making some strides but tna can at least match them, TNA utilizes youtube more which is great, i say provide a bit more internet content, have more interesting spin cycles, some of those were pretty good.

Create NEW stars and enhance the established ones

If possible create an alliance with ROH, try to do a supershow of some sort
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Old 12-09-2010, 12:21 PM   #44
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christian cage? r-truth?

those really are questions, i don't watch tna. but i thought they were both major champions there at some point.
They were... Christian Cage is/was a mid card WWE wrestler and probably always will be.. There is no doubt that the man has talent but he seems a bit flaky. As for R-Truth... that is just one huge cluster fuck of crappy character, shitty talent, and a false sense of bravado. WWE GARBAGE!!!
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Heyman is overrated.
In your opinion he is. But I would've given him all that control he asked for (hirings/firings etc) because I personally feel he would've focused on the youth of TNA and pushed them. Not the shitty WWE/ECW old timers that have already had the limelight for too long. Oh, and Matt Morgan? seriously? If he was any good, Vince would've kept him.
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Old 12-09-2010, 01:21 PM   #46
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Heyman asked for an offer beyond what he was worth. I think it was in the region of a $50m package in salary and company stock over 5yrs, thats what he said to Alvarez and Meltzer.

Thats fucking insane.
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Yeah pretty nuts - but would love to see what Hogan/Bischoff and even Flair is getting.
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Dunno, they had Hogan go out on Reaction the other week and practically bury kayfabe and totally shit over wrasslin'.
Just sounds like that 'worked shoot' he did on Russo at Bash at the Beach.
By his own logic...they should fire Hulk Hogan.
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Heyman asked for an offer beyond what he was worth. I think it was in the region of a $50m package in salary and company stock over 5yrs, thats what he said to Alvarez and Meltzer.

Thats fucking insane.
It was ridiculous, but who would blame him? Everyone else comes in on a pedestal, he may as well take advantage of it. Hogan and Bischoff were clearly not worth it.

I never heard a value of the contract itself (I believe he asked for a ridiculous price because he doesn't really want to do wrestling anymore) but I did hear that a huge part of it was that he would have access to Spike TV and probably get a show of his own. That was apparently the biggest thing for him, outside of complete control.
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1.Get out of the Impact zone,and start taping the live shows as Impacts.Only use the venues where they sell the most tickets,go into as many big market cities as possible.

2.The marketing of their product is what hurts them the most.They don't know how to package together a product.Every wrestler is a product.Their marketing says bargin bin.Jeff hardy was huge last year in WWE.He comes into TNA and they WCW-Bret hart him.The only athlete they have brought in correctly is Angle.Probly cause he has a lot of say into what he does.

3.Slow it down or simplify the product.They stick too many people on Impact every week.Not everyone needs a storyline.

4.Anyone over 50 should never hold more then a tag team belt

5.Make Fortune their future. Along with hernandez,Eric Young,Joe,and every English wrestler in the company.
6.Bring back Chris Daniels,Petey Williams,and Awesome Kong.Lose Hogan.
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:43 PM   #51
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bischoff still has a job in professional wrestling?

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Old 12-09-2010, 02:54 PM   #52
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Right here's my take

1. Bring back the 6 sided ring because it gave TNA a personality and made them stand out better than the other major promotions

2. I agree with moving out of the Impact Zone, just reminded me too much of the Disney tapings in WCW. plus they barely made any money in that shed.

3. Stick with the originals e.g AJ, EY, Beer Money and Samoa Joe exc, give them a push and build the X-Division like it used to be.

4. Put Hogan and Bischoff in the back seat, I don't mind them in an authority angle but putting them centre stage is a bad move.

5. Limit the ex-WWE performers coming to TNA, only if they deserve a spot.

6. Hire Paul Heyman and Vine Russo can fck right off.

7. Bring back Don West so they can follow WWE's move for a 3-man commentary team.
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Old 12-09-2010, 10:52 PM   #53
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Well, Bischoff passed on helping TNA back in 2003 or so, because he didn't think they had the proper vision to compete with WWE.

But now he's with TNA. Maybe he sees potential for the company this time around

They got the talent. But the rest sucks
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Come to think of it, 'TNA' is a really crappy name for a wrasslin company.
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Well, Bischoff passed on helping TNA back in 2003 or so, because he didn't think they had the proper vision to compete with WWE.

But now he's with TNA. Maybe he sees potential for the company this time around

They got the talent. But the rest sucks
I would have thought it had more to do with the fact that in 2003 he was in WWE, this time around he was probably looking for work.
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bischoff still has a job in professional wrestling?

...why???
Holly shit really???? Come on man at least pretend like you watch wrestling when you post on a wrestling thread! fail
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Old 12-10-2010, 03:34 PM   #58
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I also felt they should've taken up Heymans offer.
Or Kevin Sullivan's.
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Or Kevin Sullivan's.
What was Sullivan's offer?
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I would have thought it had more to do with the fact that in 2003 he was in WWE, this time around he was probably looking for work.
Read in his book, maybe I read it wrong, it could've been during the time that he was not involved in wrestling (like 2001 or early 2002. He came to WWE in summer 2002)

Also, Vince got JR to call up Bischoff if he wanted to come in around 2001, but he turned it down. Vince personally called him in 2002, this time he took the offer. So yeah, if Bischoff took the first offer, he would've been involved in the InVasion angle
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"Keep it simple."

That's the best way to book things. The best storyline in TNA in 2010 was Kurt Angle starting at the bottom, working his way up to the top again -- wrestling his way through the best in TNA. They then added some stupid melodramatic bullshit with his job being on the line. Why? That just telegraphed Angle would win pretty much all his matches on the way up there.

TNA are trying to juggle too many balls. They want their top faces to be Mr. Anderson (understandable, because he moves a lot of merchandise for TNA), Rob Van Dam (see: Mr. Anderson), Matt Morgan, The Pope and Samoa Joe. There's just so many guys floating around there that it gets congested. Take a deep breath, and realise that what originally attracted people to TNA was that things like the X-Division meant something. That is where Jeff Hardy and Rob Van Dam should be competing, in my opinion. Even Kurt Angle. The Pope and Matt Morgan are yet to win a single championship in the WWE or TNA, so TV Titles for them and they can work their way up. That leaves Mr. Anderson and Samoa Joe at the top. That is fine with me right now. Joe could even go after the TV Title for a while, so he can call himself a Grand Slam Champion. They've feuded so much in the past; but I would not be opposed to seeing Joe and Styles feud over the TV Title -- with Styles trying to keep Grand Slam glory to himself.

TNA just overbooks things. I get that they want each character to be developed and have the spotlight, but so many of them are just floating around doing things for the sake of doing them. I love Stevie Richards as much as the next guy, and he is in tremendous shape; but let's leave him for house shows and as a road agent, hey?

If this feud between Brother Ray and Brother Devon doesn't go over well, then perhaps cut your losses with them, and let them go to their wrestling school. Why is TNA trying to keep Mick Foley? I love the guy, but he's not really doing anything. If they got rid of Taz and replaced him with Foley, then that's something. I'd personally like to see Raven as a color commentator, though. He'd probably be cheaper, too.

Just keep it simple. You don't need ghosts, old guys, people turning every week, etc. Jeff Jarrett vs. Kurt Angle at Genesis doesn't need 6 guys running in. It needs Angle to come back, make Jarrett tap, make people happy, and then Angle moves on to his next program. Easy.
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They are drawing the highest rating shows on the station that airs Impact. They don't need help. You wanna help someone, help McDonalds and Burger King figure out how to stop making this forum so happy, when they are so sad!
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They are drawing the highest rating shows on the station that airs Impact. They don't need help. You wanna help someone, help McDonalds and Burger King figure out how to stop making this forum so happy, when they are so sad!
Ok so they are the highest rated show on SpikTV... they have gems such as

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The Ultimate Fighter - probably their 2nd highest rated show

TNA iMPACT - we all know this one

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Are you guys seriously telling the Bishoff, Hogan, and Russo how to run a wrestling company? Jesus Christ, if you guys had a fraction of the success all three of them have in their ring finger, you definitely would not be posting on a wrestling forum.
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Are you guys seriously telling the Bishoff, Hogan, and Russo how to run a wrestling company? Jesus Christ, if you guys had a fraction of the success all three of them have in their ring finger, you definitely would not be posting on a wrestling forum.
Ok that is the point of a wrestling forum so we can share our ideas freely you jackhole

and further more you need to clam the fuck down mama.... we don't take to kindly to your types around here! Or my type... or any type for that matter
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Old 12-11-2010, 12:52 PM   #69
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Hogan = God of Wrestling. Always has been, always will be. No matter how much any of you dislike him.
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Ok so they are the highest rated show on SpikTV... they have gems such as

1000 Ways To Die- absurd ways you can die

Auction Hunters - buying abandoned storage units

Blue Mountain State - no fucking clue

Deadliest Warrior - ridiculous bouts between samurai and indians

Fight For The Troops - no fucking clue

MANswers - stupid answers for the things guys never ask

The Ultimate Fighter - probably their 2nd highest rated show

TNA iMPACT - we all know this one

VGA 2010 - kinda interesting
I do not believe for a second that Impact draws a higher rating than The Ultimate Fighter. I could be wrong but I'd very surprised.
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I do not believe for a second that Impact draws a higher rating than The Ultimate Fighter. I could be wrong but I'd very surprised.
I second this statement.
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I do not believe for a second that Impact draws a higher rating than The Ultimate Fighter. I could be wrong but I'd very surprised.
iMPACT! has been there highest rated show the last 2 weeks... before that it was Ultimate Fighter... iMPACT! will fall to #2 again soon im sure
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The Ultimate Fighter finished 2 weeks ago.
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The Ultimate Fighter finished 2 weeks ago.
EXACTLY!!! Thats kinda my point
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Make Bill Watts the booker.
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Make Bill Watts the booker.
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