NHL 2010-2011 Season Thread

[Londoner]

Washington 3-0 down, fuck this i'll watch minnesota v anaheim.

[El Fangel]

Down 5-0, Ovy in a fight.

[Londoner]

bizarre situation just happened for anaheims 5th goal, can't be arsed describing it. :lol:

[Lara Emily]

How is this team winning honestly.

Its Crosby and a group of ragtags, Malkin and Staal are out. They have Gogo and Tang on the PP.

What else? Fleury? HAHAHAHAAH

Letang you mean the guy who is tied for 2nd in the NHL for points by a defenceman, is gonna likely be on the starting roster for the all star game and leads the league in +/-, btw Gogo plays 2nd PP, it's Martin and Letang usually. Btw Fleury has completely and utterly rebounded from his bad start, oh and key to the Pens winning Defence they are third in the league in Lowest Goals against per game, 2nd in the league in PK%. Also their rag tag guys re putting pucks in at opportune times. They have a lot of underrated grinders that wear out the other time and kill the clock super efficiently when they have the lead

[parkmania]

Lara, you forgot something about Letang - he's the #2 votegetter for the all-star game AND HE'S A WRITE-IN VOTE!

[Lara Emily]

Look at the top goalies this year and their stats last year.

Tim Thomas (huge rebound year, he lost his starting job last year to Rask)
Ondrej Pavelec (only played half of his team's games last year had a GAA of over 3)
Carey Price (Lost his job to Halak)

None of these guys were top goalies last year, all of them have rebounded huge this year. So living proof that goalies can rebound, Fleury's stats since his rebound would put him neck and neck with the league's top goalie's

[Lara Emily]

Lara, you forgot something about Letang - he's the #2 votegetter for the all-star game AND HE'S A WRITE-IN VOTE!

Yup that's why I said he'll likely be on the starting roster for the All-Star game, as it stands right now he's an early legit candidate for the Norris

[El Fangel]

Letang you mean the guy who is tied for 2nd in the NHL for points by a defenceman, is gonna likely be on the starting roster for the all star game and leads the league in +/-, btw Gogo plays 2nd PP, it's Martin and Letang usually. Btw Fleury has completely and utterly rebounded from his bad start, oh and key to the Pens winning Defence they are third in the league in Lowest Goals against per game, 2nd in the league in PK%. Also their rag tag guys re putting pucks in at opportune times. They have a lot of underrated grinders that wear out the other time and kill the clock super efficiently when they have the lead

Wasn't calling Tang and Gogo ragtags by any means, just the rest of the forwards Crosby is playing with. Kennedy, Dupuis, Kunitz, etc. Aren't exactly elite talent as I'm sure you are aware.

Lara, you forgot something about Letang - he's the #2 votegetter for the all-star game AND HE'S A WRITE-IN VOTE!

Real shocking as the guy who runs the powerplay that the league leader in points is on gets votes.

Tim Thomas (huge rebound year, he lost his starting job last year to Rask)
Ondrej Pavelec (only played half of his team's games last year had a GAA of over 3)
Carey Price (Lost his job to Halak)

None of these guys were top goalies last year, all of them have rebounded huge this year. So living proof that goalies can rebound, Fleury's stats since his rebound would put him neck and neck with the league's top goalie's

Basically what I'm trying to say, goalies who are consistent year after year are hard to come by.

Yup that's why I said he'll likely be on the starting roster for the All-Star game, as it stands right now he's an early legit candidate for the Norris

Agreed, weird how Doughty, Green, Keith, Etc have been out of the running thus far.
I want Lidstrom though. Guy is dominant at 40...

[YOUR Hero]

Down 5-0, Ovy in a fight.

Is this the time where we all question him and explain how he's a scorer not a fighter?!



See Crosby: 20 some games ago.

[OssMan]

ovechkin copied crosby

[Lara Emily]

ovechkin copied crosby

Crosby wins his fights

[El Fangel]

Is this the time where we all question him and explain how he's a scorer not a fighter?!

See Crosby: 20 some games ago.

Ovy vs Crosby WC:3

[Blitz]

I love the fact that Toronto fans are all over tonights game.

1) You beat a backup in his second start in almost 30 games
2) Your still not in the playoffs...not even close.
Just take the loss dude.

[El Fangel]

Go check out the comments on YAHOO Sports, quite humourous.

[Skippord]

Tomas Fleischmann > Chicago Blackhawks

[El Fangel]

Sick comeback by Carolina.

[weather vane]

How anybody can like the Habs is beyond me...

[Arashi Kage]

How anybody can like the Habs is beyond me...

Although the Pens are my "official" favorite team (since they have been my whole life), ever since Lemieux retired again my philosophy has been to cheer for all the Canadian teams first, Pens second. Even though I've been a life long Leafs hater, I do cheer for them on occasion now, lol.

In that case, it means I like the Habs!!

GO HABS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (awwww, Thomas racked up a loss tonight for the B's :p )

I missed the first 2 periods, Bruins came on fairly strong during the last half of the 3rd, out hustled the Habs to the puck. Great effort on their part. :y:

[weather vane]

I am not saying that the Habs are terrible but the whole team is full of jerk offs.

Really is only 1 or 2 likable guys on the whole team. The rest of them are complete cocksuckers.

[El Fangel]

Gotta agree with Spilly on that.

Camel, Gionta, Hamrlik, Plekanec and Price are ok. I don't really care for the rest so much.

Fuck Scott Gomez.

[El Fangel]

Also, hate to say this about my own team but the Habs really lost their "personality" when Koivu left. Gionta is cool with me, just isn't Koivu at all.

[weather vane]

Subban
Lapierre
Gomez
Kostitsyn
Hal Skillz???


come on

[El Fangel]

Is it just me or has just about everyone been on the injured list so fat this year?

[Kapoutman]

I don't know, Spilchuk. Outside of Lapierre, Gomez and Kostitsyn, they are all likable guys in interviews and such. It's easy to identify with them.

Subban and Gill are fun. Price, Cammaleri, Plekanec, Gionta, Darche, Hamrlik... none of them ever act like dicks as far as I recall. Even Gomez is just an asshole because he gets paid 8.5 millions to do nothing, but I would be OK with him for 3 millions.

But yeah, fuck Lapierre. Never liked the guy.

[Kapoutman]

Gorges and Eller are pretty cool too.

[El Fangel]

Christ I hate Gomez more then I hated Kovalev. That's saying something, since I have no love for that 40 game player.

[El Fangel]

Holy fuck!!!!

Malkin with 5 points before the game is half over!!!!

[YOUR Hero]

The Donald Fehr to the NHLPA is a huge story. Watch out for lock out, relocation...

[El Fangel]

I cant take another lockout. I really cant.

After the last one it was 3 years before I started watching again.

[Emperor Smeat]

I doubt he will cause any huge problems since MLBPA is much stronger than hockey's and both the owners and players saw how devastating the last lockout was.

The salary cap and floor should offer some stability unlike MLB where players wanted a lot of money and owners could be as cheap as possible.

[YOUR Hero]

What do you mean he won't cause any huge problems? - He is a spokeman for the players. The players fell they left too much on the table last time and they want to be compensated. Bettman's a hard nosed guy that works for the owners. But I believe the players are going to rally around Fehr, while the Owners are already somewhat split over certain issues. The owners won't like to be 'pushed around'. I could see some ugly coming. I hope I'm wrong.

[Emperor Smeat]

Well in MLB, he was seen as one of the main reasons why steroid testing took too long and why it was almost impossible for a salary cap to be done. To be fair, Selig was as bad in reacting to steroids while also doing a lot of dumb decisions as well.

I think the main benefit NHL has is since the last stoppage was only a few years ago, its recent enough for the players and owners to notice how damaging it was to the league and would want to do a better compromise than almost doing nothing last time.

The players lost out on money from the current deal but they get a guarantee of a salary floor to combat any chance of the owners being as cheap as is the case with certain team owners in the MLB. They also know the public turned badly against them last time when they were expecting the owners to take most of the public anger.

[El Fangel]

I honestly think they will work something out, because thing about how bad it would be for hockey to have a 2nd lockout, 3rd if you count the shortened season back in the 90's.

Its giving hockey terrible publicity and thats the last thing it needs right now.

[LoDownM]

Hope there isn't another lockout so soon...

[El Fangel]

Hope there isn't another lockout <s>so soon...</s> ever again

[weather vane]

There will not be a lock out. Not even close.

[YOUR Hero]

It goes both ways don't forget. Lock out or walk out (strike)

[El Fangel]

Wouldnt it be a skate out?

[El Fangel]

Or better known as a Kovalev.

[Adder]

Whispers that the Devils might trade Brodeur. Could you imagine him in a

new jersey.

[El Fangel]

Where are they going to trade him? To Toronto for Kadri, Schenn and Versteeg?

[weather vane]

lol ahahaha Adder

now that's good humor

[LoDownM]

lol. I don't see if happening, but if Gretzky can be traded, anyone can. Not impossible, but realllllly doubt it will happen.

[owenbrown]

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Who the fuck throws waffles?

[El Fangel]

A fed up Toronto fan.

[owenbrown]

The Leafs must be getting worse and worse every season huh?

[El Fangel]

They wouldn't if they they understood the word "rebuild".

For example, you look at the Oilers who have, among others. Hall, Eberle, Paajarvi, Omark, Dubnyk and Petry.

An exceptional core of talented rookies that will ensure a degree of success in the future,something that T.O doesn't have and has not had for a very long time as they refuse to build through the draft because they wish to get to the playoffs. Something they have missed every year since 2005 and something they will miss this year as well.

[Emperor Smeat]

I don't blame the fans since they got overly excited and arrogant when the Leafs had a very strong start to the season which had not occurred in recent years and then saw the season dead a month later when the team plummeted.

[weather vane]

I toldaso

[Adder]

I don't blame the fans since they got overly excited and arrogant when the Leafs had a very strong start to the season which had not occurred in recent years and then saw the season dead a month later when the team plummeted.

When you look back, what was so strong? 4 wins in their first 5 games followed by an OT loss?
It wasn't like it was ever a huge streak, even for a starving fan base.

[Adder]

PS

Devils fired MacLean today.

[Emperor Smeat]

When you look back, what was so strong? 4 wins in their first 5 games followed by an OT loss?
It wasn't like it was ever a huge streak, even for a starving fan base.

It was more from perception since 8 points out of 10 and then 9 out of 12 in the 1st 5-6 games made the fans and media believe the team had a strong start when the Leafs actually only managed to not screw up the start of a season.

A lot of people start to suddenly think and believe they are Stanley Cup contenders when in reality the Leafs didn't actually do anything nor show their potential weakness.

Fast forward about a month later and now everyone is disappointed and angry since the Leafs went back to playing the same way they played last year.

[El Fangel]

It was more from perception since 8 points out of 10 and then 9 out of 12 in the 1st 5-6 games made the fans and media believe the team had a strong start when the Leafs actually only managed to not screw up the start of a season.

A lot of people start to suddenly think and believe they are Stanley Cup contenders when in reality the Leafs didn't actually do anything nor show their potential weakness.

Fast forward about a month later and now everyone is disappointed and angry since the Leafs went back to playing the same way they played last year.

And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before, And the year before,


But hey, at least they have Phil "Our lord and savior" Kessel.

[Lara Emily]

Hey Assman Pascal Dupuis says hi

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

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Who the fuck throws waffles?

Do they sell waffles there? How did he get in with them?

[OssMan]

Hey Assman Pascal Dupuis says hi
Ya whatever. Pretty good game. Caps shouldn't have even been able to tie it.

[Corndad]

That was a hell of a game. Can't wait for Classic.

[El Fangel]

Oh joy Sid vs Ovy and more shutdown defense limiting their head to head scoring rivalry, I'm all giddy about that.

[Blitz]

I don't blame the fans since they got overly excited and arrogant when the Leafs had a very strong start to the season which had not occurred in recent years and then saw the season dead a month later when the team plummeted.
The nerve of some fans, getting excited when their team has a good start. Bastards.

[El Fangel]

The nerve of some fans, getting excited when their team has a good start. Bastards.

When they start a season out, 4-0 after being 29th in the league the year prior and talk about Cup Contention because of it, yeah ill make fun of them.

Blitz, your a smart guy, so tell me something. Why in your opinion are the Leafs so against arebuild? In 5 years they could be where Los Angeles is now, a team that bottomed out, stocked picks and has an exceptional core of young players. In 5-7 years, they could be another Washington or Pittsburgh, because you and I both know you don't get players like Crosby, Ovy, Backstrom, Green, Semin, Malkin, Staal or Fleury from FA signings very often.

In this day and age of salary cap restrictions, you build through the draft and the underrated tool that is an ELC because having a huge budget means nothing anymore.

[Gertner]

Nice bitch move by Lucic. And here's a shock, the guy he sucker punched is under 6 foot and well under 200 pounds. What a pussy.

The Leafs are the youngest team in the NHL, but why they won't fully rebuild is because the fanbase and the owners are waaaaaaaaaaay too impatient.

[YOUR Hero]

When they start a season out, 4-0 after being 29th in the league the year prior and talk about Cup Contention because of it, yeah ill make fun of them.

Blitz, your a smart guy, so tell me something. Why in your opinion are the Leafs so against arebuild? In 5 years they could be where Los Angeles is now, a team that bottomed out, stocked picks and has an exceptional core of young players. In 5-7 years, they could be another Washington or Pittsburgh, because you and I both know you don't get players like Crosby, Ovy, Backstrom, Green, Semin, Malkin, Staal or Fleury from FA signings very often.

In this day and age of salary cap restrictions, you build through the draft and the underrated tool that is an ELC because having a huge budget means nothing anymore.
they lost the 1st game of the season.http://www.tpww.net/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Blitz]

When they start a season out, 4-0 after being 29th in the league the year prior and talk about Cup Contention because of it, yeah ill make fun of them.

Blitz, your a smart guy, so tell me something. Why in your opinion are the Leafs so against arebuild? In 5 years they could be where Los Angeles is now, a team that bottomed out, stocked picks and has an exceptional core of young players. In 5-7 years, they could be another Washington or Pittsburgh, because you and I both know you don't get players like Crosby, Ovy, Backstrom, Green, Semin, Malkin, Staal or Fleury from FA signings very often.

In this day and age of salary cap restrictions, you build through the draft and the underrated tool that is an ELC because having a huge budget means nothing anymore.
What Gertner said. I would tend to shift the blame more towards the owners. They don't wanna admit there's a problem, so they just look for quick fixes.

Why can't we be excited about a good start? When your team starts the previous season with 8 losses, and then starts the next one with 4 straight wins, don't even try to tell me that that isn't reason to be excited. No, it's not reason to call for the cup, but every team has it's share of dickhead fans. I just take issue with implying that Toronto is the only team with that problem.

[Lara Emily]

The Owners won;t do shit because the Leafs make money even as a shit team, so why spend all that extra money. The owners don't give a shit about winning as long as people keep spending ridiculous amounts of money on tickets. Leafs are slowly becoming the Pittsburgh Pirates of hockey

[Blitz]

Always buying tickets means that the fans always support the team, even in bad times. I don't see how that's a bad thing. The owners should be trying to build a winning team because we support them. Which is why I tend to place more of the blame on the ownership.

[Londoner]

After a year of following NHL properly have finally decided to follow Anaheim i think, just noticed as of late i do enjoy watching them. Got their game v LA kings on atm, dunno the result.

[El Fangel]

They also have Getzlaf <15

[Lara Emily]

Always buying tickets means that the fans always support the team, even in bad times. I don't see how that's a bad thing. The owners should be trying to build a winning team because we support them. Which is why I tend to place more of the blame on the ownership.

Yeah it's definitely thew owners but they're not gonna change.

[Gertner]

This is where I disagree with Lara Emily. The owners want to win because home playoff games means more money. They just don't want to do the work. They want to win now and not build the right way. I just look at this team and don't understand what they are doing. Their offense is terrible, their special teams is bad. They aren't big, their goaltending is good, but that's it. Even Burke's trades make no sense. I HATED the Stalberg for Versteeg trade with a passion because I always felt that Versteeg was a product of the team. Versteeg is a team worst -13. Not good. They dealt Stalberg who is 23, 6"4 215, can skate and shoot. You don't deal players like that. It's already at the point where I watch just to see Colton Orr fight. I'm almost apathetic towards them and will watch my Utah Jazz play over watch the Leafs. I just don't care anymore.

[Gertner]

That Kopitar pass to Dustin Brown last night was ridiculous.

[El Fangel]

This is where I disagree with Lara Emily. The owners want to win because home playoff games means more money. They just don't want to do the work. They want to win now and not build the right way. I just look at this team and don't understand what they are doing. Their offense is terrible, their special teams is bad. They aren't big, their goaltending is good, but that's it. Even Burke's trades make no sense. I HATED the Stalberg for Versteeg trade with a passion because I always felt that Versteeg was a product of the team. Versteeg is a team worst -13. Not good. They dealt Stalberg who is 23, 6"4 215, can skate and shoot. You don't deal players like that. It's already at the point where I watch just to see Colton Orr fight. I'm almost apathetic towards them and will watch my Utah Jazz play over watch the Leafs. I just don't care anymore.

If they truly WANTED to win, then they would hire scouts, draft well and in a few years they could be in the playoffs again and making the money that that they wish to make. How they do not see this is beyond me.

Leafs regular season tickets are outrageously priced, I cant imagine playoff tickets ever being in a normal joes price range.

Spend money now, to make a fuckton later. Simple as that.

That Kopitar pass to Dustin Brown last night was ridiculous.

Jesus christ, yes it was.

[El Fangel]

CALGARY, Alberta (AP)—Darryl Sutter has resigned as general manager of the Calgary Flames (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/cgy/).
The NHL team said Tuesday that assistant GM Jay Feaster will be the acting general manager. The Flames are fourth in the Northwest Division with 35 points.

Sutter was hired as general manager in 2003, a few months after becoming the coach. He gave up his coaching job in 2006 to concentrate on the front office. He was also the team’s executive vice president.


Finally.

[Gertner]

They have actually beefed up their scouting. Talent takes time to develop, the Leafs are just throwing stuff and a wall and hoping enough sticks so they can sneak into the playoffs.

[Corndad]

Crosby is insane. 4 more points (2 goals, 2 assists) tonight vs Thrashers.

[El Fangel]

65 in 37( or 38) Games?

[LoDownM]

12 Games to get 18 Goals. Think he's gonna miss 50 in 50 by 2 games.

[parkmania]

And he's missed a couple empty nets and a couple gimme's along the way, so if he's within 2 it'll probably eat at him a little bit.

[Gertner]

http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/ohtheresthecamerap1.gif

[Kapoutman]

http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/ohtheresthecamerap1.gif

Love that GIF.

[Kapoutman]

Man, fuck the Habs. Get your shit together, guys.

[YOUR Hero]

Booing Carey Price will be in fashion again soon.

[Corndad]

Winter Classic moved back to 8pm tomorrow night.

Smart move by NHL for once. I think will look sweet on tv for all those watching.

Also all of those lucky enough like myself to get to go like knowing we wont be fighting the rain the entire time. I can't freakin wait for this.

[OssMan]

Is it true the cheapest ticket was like $500? I wouldn't even want to go that bad

[LoDownM]

Oh good, 8pm EST means I don't have to worry about over sleeping.

[Kapoutman]

Booing Carey Price will be in fashion again soon.

Carey Price is not the problem right now. The rest of the team is.

[Corndad]

Is it true the cheapest ticket was like $500? I wouldn't even want to go that bad

I believe it was like $140.00-$150.00 for the ones we got. True story, they are actually my wedding gift from my future brother in law so I can't say for sure but believe it was around that. I know people were selling them for close to $500 like you said.

[El Fangel]

scalpers making some dough.

[YOUR Hero]

Carey Price is not the problem right now. The rest of the team is.
I didnt mean to imply it was his fault. Just that it's what Habs fans tend to do. Single out a player and pound him. They've got practise doing it to Price, I can see them focusing on him again.

[El Fangel]

Lapierre traded to the Ducks for .....Nothing....

Awesome.

[Droford]

I made a bet with someone at work that the Caps would win tonight AND the Steelers would lose tomorrow.

I hope I dont lose the bet.

[LoDownM]

I love the blimp shots during these.

[Droford]

I honestly think the game looks cooler at night. Bet they move it to primetime from now on.

[YOUR Hero]

Just about forgot about it! - just turned it on

[Droford]

BS call on Laich there..pft, I feel like Im watching the Steelers play.

[YOUR Hero]

Lapierre traded to the Ducks for .....Nothing....

Awesome.

It's not like he was worth anything. And they did get 2 prospects for him. A minor leaguer and a 5th round pick. Montreal wins this deal.

[Droford]

Happy the Caps are winning but the ice conditions are terrible and Im just hoping they can play the next 7 minutes and not have anyone get hurt.

[parkmania]

Credit where it's due: Varlomov was absolutely a beast tonight.

[Droford]

that was a crazy last two minutes

[El Fangel]

It's not like he was worth anything. And they did get 2 prospects for him. A minor leaguer and a 5th round pick. Montreal wins this deal.

A decent third liner for a crappy dman and a throwaway pick (most likely)

Thats a win?

Almost as good as the return on Halak...

[Emperor Smeat]

Rumor for next year's Classic might involve Blackhawks at Red Wings or Rangers at Flyers.

[OssMan]

Since I think it's bullshit that only cold weather teams get to participate in the Winter Classic, my suggestion is that the NHL pick a "neutral" site somewhere in Canada or something where it's sure to be good conditions and have two warm weather teams play in the game.

[El Fangel]

Montreal vs Toronto anyone?

[LoDownM]

Since I think it's bullshit that only cold weather teams get to participate in the Winter Classic, my suggestion is that the NHL pick a "neutral" site somewhere in Canada or something where it's sure to be good conditions and have two warm weather teams play in the game.


That's not true. They had an outdoor game in Las Vegas years ago(1991 I think). The could do one just about anywhere during Winter.

[Londoner]

For some reason ESPN here didn't show the winter classic even though they advertised it, and there's no replays of it either. :mad: :(

[El Fangel]

Yeah, wasn't even on TV for me:(

[Corndad]

Although the outcome of the score isn't what I liked, that was an amazing experience. Just to hear the roar of the crowd was insane. A lot of fans for both the Pens and the Caps there. Caps just wanted it more tonight have to give credit when due. Ovi is still an arrogant cocky prick but I earned alot of respect for the rest of them tonight. Pens just weren't ready.

[OssMan]

It was on NBC :?::?::?: Your local market team was probably playing since they moved the game back

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I remember when the rumor last year was Rangers/Islanders :( then they realized it'd be dumb to only cater to one market, though the hope was that it would put John Taveres over as a star.

and of course, Citi Field offered to hold the event, but I just know they would have coaxed Yankee Stadium into hosting it instead due to name value</font>

[El Fangel]

I got to watch the Laughs win a game:(

[YOUR Hero]

Flames/Oilers will be next. Sometime later this month I think?...

[El Fangel]

Ugh, woooooo the battle of Alberta....again!!!!

[LoDownM]

Flames/Oilers will be next. Sometime later this month I think?...

Think it's after the All Star game.

[Corndad]

Think it's after the All Star game.

Yea I think they are calling it the Heritage Classic.

[Londoner]

Just seen there's a replay of the winter classic on at 3:30am, just aswell i'll be staying up late tonight then!(honestly espn, fucking put it on at an earlier time ffs)

[McLegend]

Since I think it's bullshit that only cold weather teams get to participate in the Winter Classic, my suggestion is that the NHL pick a "neutral" site somewhere in Canada or something where it's sure to be good conditions and have two warm weather teams play in the game.

No one cares about warm weather teams.

A game in Canada is good though.

[Emperor Smeat]

A game in Canada would be good but NHL cares a lot about ratings in the US.

Something like a Toronto-Montreal game would be huge in Canadian ratings but not as huge in the US unless NHL added US teams or had the game in the US.

It sounds stupid but that is the main reason the NHL has Winter Classics since it is only about the ratings and boost in publicity in the US.

[Londoner]

I don't see why toronto/montreal wouldn't do well in the US, unless the US really are THAT self centered? Pretty sad if they're, which i wouldn't doubt.

[LoDownM]

Flames/Oilers will be next. Sometime later this month I think?...



Ugh, woooooo the battle of Alberta....again!!!!

It's the Flames vs Canadians actually

[El Fangel]

Oh, ummm....Woooooooo!!!!!

[Emperor Smeat]

I don't see why toronto/montreal wouldn't do well in the US, unless the US really are THAT self centered? Pretty sad if they're, which i wouldn't doubt.

While Toronoto-Montreal might get all of Canada watching, in terms of US ratings that would be a 0 from Canada since the majority of tv ads and revenue are based on the US ratings.

It would still get decent ratings from the US but not the huge numbers a Classic located in the US or involving US teams can generate. It still sounds like a dumb reason but the Commish still wants to expand the fanbase and interest in hockey in the southern US.

[Lara Emily]

I'd love it if they'd just do away with the Winter Classic, it makes for god awful hockey games and really ugly camera angles.

[OssMan]

Sorry to break it to you but they're going to start doing multiple Winter Classics, eventually going overseas with them

[SaskatchewanChamp]

Preliminary ratings are out for Saturday night's Winter Classic, and NBC won the night among viewers aged 18-49. The game averaged 4.65 million viewers, placing NBC third overall in average viewers among the broadcast networks.

Source : http://nhl.fanhouse.com/2011/01/02/winter-classic-ratings-positive-for-nbc/

This should be considered a success, however, one could only wonder if the game would have went on when it was scheduled. I know for me, the TV Guide that comes on my tv did not show the game was re-scheduled.

[weather vane]

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[Adder]

I'd love it if they'd just do away with the Winter Classic, it makes for god awful hockey games and really ugly camera angles.

Oh come now

[LoDownM]

I like seeing the game in angles you don't normally see inside an arena.

[parkmania]

Anyone think that the game will go back to the afternoon next year? Ratings, ratings, ratings.

Should next year have a warm weather team as the visitor? I could see them trying to cash in on a California team visiting New York.

[YOUR Hero]

Next year they should play the game in Winnipeg

[El Fangel]

Or Halifax

[El Fangel]

Having a coyotes vs avs game would be cool if they wore jets and nordique jerseys.

[LoDownM]

I would try like hell to get a ticket if the Avs hosted one. Not an Avs fan, but would love to see a Winter Classic in person.

[Lara Emily]

Oh come now

What? The cameras are way too far away from the ice, the game a lot aslower, the ice is usually terrible so the game actually is slower. It's a great atmosphere but it makes for really bad hockey games

[El Fangel]

Mere days after trading Roloson, down goes Rickity D

And what was left of the Islanders season most likely.

[Lara Emily]

Mere days after trading Roloson, down goes Rickity D

And what was left of the Islanders season most likely.

Ricky D injured OMG I can't believe it.

[El Fangel]

Yeah, he was such a model of health and consistentcy. Thats why they traded Roloson.

Sidenote - All my dynasty fantasy teams I picked up Lawsen :)

[SaskatchewanChamp]

Sidenote - On my dynasty fantasy team I picked up Lawsen :)

[El Fangel]

You play fantasy hockey? Havent noticed at you at all in the TPWW League.

[Gertner]

Lol there's a shock, the habs are collapsing after a fast start. Not like this happens every season or anything.

[Gertner]

I do agree with Lara Emily somewhat. The hockey in the Winter Classic is pretty bad due to ice conditions. The NHL really needs to be careful with this.
Also, I'm shocked the greedy Leafs ownership has not gotten an outdoor game yet. You'd think they be all over a Ottawa/Toronto outdoor game.

[El Fangel]

Lol there's a shock, the habs are collapsing after a fast start. Not like this happens every season or anything.
The habs took 40 games
The leafs took 4.

[Gertner]

Lol never said the Leafs were great. They are awful.

[El Fangel]

On paper, they arent a terribly bad team. I cant place what the hell is wrong with them.

Also, I await the shipping of Kaberle at the trade deadline, for picks they will trade to boston for Marc Savard :p

[Emperor Smeat]

Do the Bruins still have another 1st round pick from the Leafs for the next draft?

I forgot if the Kessel deal was just the 2010 1st round pick or 2010 and 2011 1st round picks.

[weather vane]

Yes. Unreal deal for us.

[El Fangel]

1st 2010
2nd 2010
1st 2011

for

Phil "Our Lord and Savior" Kessel

[Gertner]

K, people shit on Kessel and although I'm not his biggest fan.....HE'S PLAYING ON A FUCKING LINE WITH JOEY CRABB AND TYLER BOZAK!!!!! They shell out all this cash and picks for him and then basically give him a toothpick and an elastic band and say "build a house". It's not possible. FA, they are horrible on paper. They have 1 good line: MacArthur-Grabovski-Kulemin and that's it. Kessel is basically on a line with nothing. Versteeg sucks (I remember saying numerous times I hated that trade), Bozak has been bad, Armstrong has been bad, Sjostrom, Mitchell, Brent and Boyce are all terrible. Orr does his job as does Brown but they are fourth liners. They sent down their only good faceoff man in Zigomanis and kept friggen Mitchell. Kaberle and Schenn are excellent, Komisarek is a disaster, Beacuchemin isn't much better, Phaneuf is always out of position, Gunnerson is meh and Lebda blows. Their goaltending is good but it's offset by their terrible defence and their forwards not backchecking. Their pk and pp is terrible. Joey Crabb is on the power play. Enough said. Their forwards are under-sized and the team doesn't hit. Ron Wilson should be fired as should Brian Burke. There has been no fucking progress whatsoever and the only reason I watch is to see Colton Orr fight. There FA, did I answer your question?

[parkmania]

4 goals in under 8 minutes by the Pens against Tampa.

And Malkin and Crosby only have 1 point each.

[El Fangel]

K, people shit on Kessel and although I'm not his biggest fan.....HE'S PLAYING ON A FUCKING LINE WITH JOEY CRABB AND TYLER BOZAK!!!!!

Wasnt he supposed to be the savior of the Leafs, skyrocketing them towards playoff contention? Did they not finish in the league basement? Why would anyone believe that he alone could make the Leafs so good that trading two first rounders wouldn't look like a bad idea? If you think about it, the picks would have have had to be 20th overall or below for the deal to look even slightly fair. That would have meant a jump of 13 places in the standings. Instead they regressed farther and ended up in 29th and look to be in the bottom 5 again this year. Thats two top 5 picks for Kessel. They could easily have gotten a better player from those picks. And please dont hand me the "well who thought they would be that bad" crap, because every non leafs fan believe that, they all mostly thought that the leafs would do worse not better. Its frustrating as most leafs fans will stubbornly defend the trade saying teh FA and College signings make up for picks. Fact of the matter its mostly players no one else wants. Example being Bozak.

They shell out all this cash and picks for him and then basically give him a toothpick and an elastic band and say "build a house".

They are responsible for the blueprints and supplies, he isnt.

It's not possible. FA, they are horrible on paper. They have 1 good line: MacArthur-Grabovski-Kulemin and that's it.

Agreed

Kessel is basically on a line with nothing. Versteeg sucks (I remember saying numerous times I hated that trade), Bozak has been bad, Armstrong has been bad, Sjostrom, Mitchell, Brent and Boyce are all terrible.

I smashed the Versteeg trade from the start, he was a product of his environment not a product of being an immensely skilled player.

Orr does his job as does Brown but they are fourth liners.

A guy whose sole duty is to beat the shit out of other goons being one of the few doing their job is really saying something.

They sent down their only good faceoff man in Zigomanis and kept friggen Mitchell.

Retarded, as you would agree.

Kaberle and Schenn are excellent, Komisarek is a disaster, Beacuchemin isn't much better, Phaneuf is always out of position, Gunnerson is meh and Lebda blows.

Kaberle is gone, Im sure of it. He wants a cup and he wont see one anytime soon in Toronto. Schenn, if smart wont resign with them either, he is a prime player and would be much better elsewhere. Beauchemin...yeah...

Phaneuf? I thought the Leafs traded for Bourque... Or thats the way they made it seem. Captain Fantastic there.

Gunnerson is meh like you and said and Lebda is horrid.

Their goaltending is good but it's offset by their terrible defence and their forwards not backchecking.

Gustavsson and JSG are ok, Reimer looks good. But look at all the half decent goalies whose careers went to shit in Toronto.

Belfour, Joseph, Pogge, Toskala, etc. Once there and playing their numbers were horrible compared to elsewhere.

Their pk and pp is terrible. Joey Crabb is on the power play. Enough said. Their forwards are under-sized and the team doesn't hit.

Yeah, thats another thing.

Ron Wilson should be fired as should Brian Burke. There has been no fucking progress whatsoever

There wasnt before BB showed up either.

and the only reason I watch is to see Colton Orr fight. There FA, did I answer your question?

Mostly yes.

[El Fangel]

4 goals in under 8 minutes by the Pens against Tampa.

And Malkin and Crosby only have 1 point each.

5 First period goals...

[Gertner]

Lol you wanted a reason why the Leafs aren't good and there ya go. Kessel would make sense if they put a couple solid players around him. It's not so much the trade for Kessel that I hate, it's what they did after the trade.

[Gertner]

I will argue one counterpoint: Belfour and Joseph were excellent on Toronto, well Belfour was until his last year.

[weather vane]

The trade would of made SOME sense if they had a team for Kessel to play with. They had no chance of doing anything so why throw away the future? The trade was dumb. Would you rather have Seguin/2nd Rounder 2010/1st Rounder 2011/Bottom of standings or Kessel/Bottom of standings? With Seguin and their first rounder this year they would of have a nice solid base with cap space for the future. It was a no brainer really.

[El Fangel]

It seems a lot of Toronto fans feel the need to rationalize that trade. It was a dumb move pure and simple, admit it. You don't see me trying to rationalize the fact we have Scott Gomez do you:p

[Emperor Smeat]

On paper, the Kessel trade was huge for Toronto and horrible for Boston since nobody was expecting the 1st Round pick to be lower than #10 or Top 15. Once Toronto did nothing to build around Kessel and struggled badly, Boston made out huge in the deal.

Bruins could theoretically do what the Penguins did in getting 2 mega picks without the need to be a horrible team record-wise like Pitt was for those 2 years.

[El Fangel]

What have most teams who make a strong run into the playoffs done? Build through drafting

What does the owners of Maple Leafs want? Profits

What does playoffs games create? Lots of profits

What did Toronto trade away? Future profits

[Gertner]

Lol you know what's a funny stat that you wouldn't believe? Toronto his statistically the youngest team in the NHL. Even younger than Edmonton.

[Gertner]

The problem with all those high draft picks is that sooner or later you'll have to pay them. That's a problem I see happening in Edmonton especially the way they are building. MSP, Eberle and Hall will all be getting big raises in a couple years. They are going to finish near the bottom again which will mean another high paid player in a couple years. They have no young defencemen and no young goaltender( dubnyk and deslauiers suck). Add to that Whitney, Hensky, Gagner, Penner and Cogliano are all well paid, I'm not 100% sold. Building from the draft is good to a point, because in today's NHL the cap creates problems. You can't have a bunch of players making a lot of money anymore. Edmonton is on a slippery slope with what they are doing.

[Emperor Smeat]

Mexico wants to hold its own Winter Classic and wants the NHL to consider them for a future site.

January 9th has Mexico U-20 team vs Bulgaria U-20 team playing outdoors in Mexico City as a test and to show the NHL its bid. Problem is the weather expected that day will be in the low 70s but no rain like in Pitt-Washigton Classic.

[El Fangel]

I hope the players wear sombreros in the bench.

[Gertner]

Mikeal Grabovski is tremendous. Thanks Montreal.

[El Fangel]

How's Mikey K doing over in T-Dot?

[JimmyMess]

Dion Phaneuf = totally lost

[Gertner]

Komisarek is an abortion. Grabovski is amazing. That being said, putting him with Kessel would be a massive mistake. Grabovski is a smaller Olli Jokinen: shoot first, pass second centerman. Lol you know who would fit in with Kessel FA and I know you're going to laugh but Scott Gomez.

[Gertner]

Wilson needs to go to Phaneuf and say "go nuts". I think Phaneuf is overthinking his game. Just do what you do. He's trying to be too defensive and he's not that type of player.

[El Fangel]

Komisarek is an abortion. Grabovski is amazing. That being said, putting him with Kessel would be a massive mistake. Grabovski is a smaller Olli Jokinen: shoot first, pass second centerman. Lol you know who would fit in with Kessel FA and I know you're going to laugh but Scott Gomez.

That would be hilarious. Him and kings ransom he earns in salary.

[Gertner]

Lol Gomez never shoots and that's what Kessel needs. If you took salary out of the equation Twhich I know is stupid) they'd be a perfect fit.

[JimmyMess]

Kessel needs a Marc Savard again... unfortunately there is only one Marc Savard and he's in Boston

[El Fangel]

So is Tyler Seguin

HiYYYYOHHHHHHHH!!!

[Gertner]

Lol Toronto hung 9 on Atlanta. Grabovski with 2 more.

[El Fangel]

Kaberle with 4A.

Has 29A on the season now I believe.

[Gertner]

Lol 1 goal and 29 assists. Only the Leafs could manage to win 9-3, get outshot by 10 and have players with a -2.

[OssMan]

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/5318/sidney.jpg

Hockey will never be as popular as football

[parkmania]

Have people been viewing this "Guardian Project" that NHL and Stan Lee are revealing on Facebook?

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Not sure how I really feel about this.

[Gertner]

A colossal waste of money.

[parkmania]

I'd probably like it a bit more if the Penguin guy didn't look like a total rip-off of Cyclops. Friggin hate the X-Men.

[Londoner]

wooooooooooooooo


lets go boston!

[Emperor Smeat]

:nono: Bruins are horrible holding leads late in a game.

This season and last season probably set some sort of records for most leads blown.

[El Fangel]

Holy shit at Boston blowing Pitts out with 3.5 mins left.

[Arashi Kage]

Holy shit at Boston blowing Pitts out with 3.5 mins left.

:rant: Pens outshot by Bruins 13-2 in the 3rd. Four 3rd period goals by Boston. :wtf:

[OssMan]

lol @ Fleury

[Emperor Smeat]

Holy shit at Boston blowing Pitts out with 3.5 mins left.

:D

I'm shocked at when the Bruins usually have a 1-2 goal lead late in the 3rd, they usually find a way to blow it but the two times they played at Pitt, they managed to play great in the 3rd and tie or take a lead.

[ThePhantom]

Ron Wilson's landmark 600th win against his former team may leave a bitter taste in his mouth.


According to a report in the Toronto Star, the Maple Leafs head coach posted an undisclosed amount of cash in the locker room prior to Tuesday's contest as extra incentive for his team to beat the Sharks.


The NHL has said that league rules were violated and, while it isn't viewed as a significant offence, the Leafs will be fined.


"If it is a violation, we will remedy it with the league," GM Brian Burke told the Star. "We'll take the money back, do whatever the league tells us to do. We have not heard anything from the National Hockey League."


Traditionally, players will post cash to a new teammate to score the winning goal when he meets his former team.


The Maple Leafs gave Wilson his benchmark victory by beating the Sharks 4-2, a game that featured a four-goal third-period rally.


Source: TSN.ca




Thoughts?

[JimmyMess]

Source: TSN.ca




Thoughts?

Everyone does it, they just happen to let it slip this time. So they'll pay the "fine." And do it again, without getting caught in the future.

I wouldn't have even called this news, but it must be a slow day in Toronto other than Funberntiensentenieund getting traded there.

[ThePhantom]

Is anyone here in agreement that Brian Burke is by far the most over-rated General Manager in the National Hockey League? I hate this guy with a passion that I can't even put into words. Honestly, the only good thing he has ever done was drafted the Sedins for Vancouver. Sure, you can say he won the Stanley Cup with The Ducks, but the ground work was already laid. After he left there, the Ducks were left with nothing but over paid role players, and haven't had success after Burke was gone.

Now that he is in Toronto, he made by far one of the worst trades in the history of this league by sending 2 first round picks to Boston for Phil Kessel. He traded away the future for a chance to "win now." Well we all know how that is working out for him. It appears that Boston is going to get a top 5 pick in the coming draft again.

What are your thoughts on Brian Burke?

[JimmyMess]

Is anyone here in agreement that Brian Burke is by far the most over-rated General Manager in the National Hockey League? I hate this guy with a passion that I can't even put into words. Honestly, the only good thing he has ever done was drafted the Sedins for Vancouver. Sure, you can say he won the Stanley Cup with The Ducks, but the ground work was already laid. After he left there, the Ducks were left with nothing but over paid role players, and haven't had success after Burke was gone.

Now that he is in Toronto, he made by far one of the worst trades in the history of this league by sending 2 first round picks to Boston for Phil Kessel. He traded away the future for a chance to "win now." Well we all know how that is working out for him. It appears that Boston is going to get a top 5 pick in the coming draft again.

What are your thoughts on Brian Burke?


His idea was right in trading for Kessel. But he also thought he'd be able to secure a good playmaker for him, which completely backfired.

I just don't like when GM/coaches bash their own players to the media. I wouldn't say I hate the guy because that is a strong word, I just think his plan fell on its face and he's scrambling.

[ThePhantom]

His idea was right in trading for Kessel. But he also thought he'd be able to secure a good playmaker for him, which completely backfired.

I just don't like when GM/coaches bash their own players to the media. I wouldn't say I hate the guy because that is a strong word, I just think his plan fell on its face and he's scrambling.


They have a good playmaker, Mike Komisarek, oh wait :shifty:

[Gertner]

Burke is far from the most over-rated GM in the league. You're just spitting out the recycled crap that Al Stratchen spews out.

[Kapoutman]

Well there used to be Darryl Sutter, but he's gone now.

[El Fangel]

Brian Burke is as overrated a GM as Messier is a leader.

[JimmyMess]

Brian Burke is as overrated a GM as Messier is a leader.

I don't know if I agree with the Messier statement. He was the shit.

[Kapoutman]

What? Messier was awesome.

[El Fangel]

Care to explain how he was a great leader?

[Emperor Smeat]

He did kind of help the Rangers break their title curse in 1994 and had key moments leading up to the title.

What hurt the Rangers more was the latter years of them going after too many star or high priced players instead of players who would fit better on the team.

Also was part of the Oilers dynasty during the years with Gretzky and the few without him.

[El Fangel]

One title makes him a great leader?

[JimmyMess]

One title makes him a great leader?

Marc Crawford didn't want him on the 98 Olympic team because he was afraid the players would only listen to Messier and not their head coach.

One title? Captained two different teams to a cup. Plus he has 4 other rings, I'd say thats a pretty good indication.

Not to mention he's second all time in points, and he has an NHL leadership award named after him.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but to say he's overrated.... it just isn't true...

[LoDownM]

Eric Staal and Lidstrom All Star Captains.

[JimmyMess]

Yeah, Crosby broke his brain so he's out. Shitty timing for him.

[weather vane]

Bruins.

[LoDownM]

Yeah, Crosby broke his brain so he's out. Shitty timing for him.

Nah, he could still be back in time for it.

[JimmyMess]

what a coincidence.... just was on TSN.ca and this came up lol...

YOUR CALL: WHO IS THE GREATEST NHL CAPTAIN OF ALL-TIME?

Mark Messier, one of the greatest players in NHL history, turned 50 on Tuesday. He has long been considered the standard for competitiveness and leadership in the game of hockey, but is he the game's greatest captain?

Check out the credentials of some of the best players ever to have the C stitched onto their uniforms and post your thoughts below using our Your Call feature.

Mark Messier

On May 25, 2004, Mark Messier solidified his place as one of the greatest leaders the sport of hockey has ever seen.

With his New York Rangers trailing the New Jersey Devils three games to two in the Eastern Conference Final, he guaranteed they would win Game 6 and push the series back to Madison Square Garden for a seventh game.

Messier would go on to score a third period hat trick to lead his team to a comeback victory and springboard them to a Stanley Cup championship. It was the Rangers' first franchise title since the 1939-40 season.

With the victory, Messier became the first and only player in league history to captain two teams to championships (Edmonton, 1990).

There is also the matter of him being second all-time in points and seventh in goals scored.

The NHL even named its leadership award after Messier in 2006.

This is only part of the article, the rest is about other great captains in hockey...

[El Fangel]

Marc Crawford didn't want him on the 98 Olympic team because he was afraid the players would only listen to Messier and not their head coach.

One title? Captained two different teams to a cup. Plus he has 4 other rings, I'd say thats a pretty good indication.

Not to mention he's second all time in points, and he has an NHL leadership award named after him.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but to say he's overrated.... it just isn't true...


I dont see Oilers rings as a show of leadership, he was on a fucking good team at the height or its play. Excellent player, average leader.

Also I FUCKING hate with a fucking passion when people use Stanley Cups as a measure of personal achievement. Its a team achievement, not a personal one.

He lead the rangers yes, but what if he didnt win the Cup after making the call? It wouldnt be remembered much at all.

Also, who did he lead to win? He scored the goals himself.

I love the guy, he is an amazing player but an amazing leader he is not.

[Gertner]

He did lead an Oilers team to their final cup with a team missing a lot of their stars from the 80's. I read a biography on the cup winning Rangers and trust me, Messier was the reason. That team had a nutcase for a coach in Keenan who was constantly feuding with Neil Smith, crazy players like Kovalev and players who flat out HATED Keenan. Messier is a tremendous leader.

[JimmyMess]

I dont see Oilers rings as a show of leadership, he was on a fucking good team at the height or its play. Excellent player, average leader.

Also I FUCKING hate with a fucking passion when people use Stanley Cups as a measure of personal achievement. Its a team achievement, not a personal one.

He lead the rangers yes, but what if he didnt win the Cup after making the call? It wouldnt be remembered much at all.

Also, who did he lead to win? He scored the goals himself.

I love the guy, he is an amazing player but an amazing leader he is not.


What if he didn't win the cup after calling the win? Come on... thats just searching for shit to say... what if Gretzky is never born.. yada yada... thats a poor argument, we could spend a thousand hours talking about "what ifs".

At the end of the day... if you have accolades named after you, if you have records in the book that sound like "the only player to...." it means something.

You are living in a very small, very small minority. In fact you are the only person I've ever heard say that about Messier. The arguments for him being a great leader far outweigh those that don't.

[Gertner]

Funniest thing I've read about this years all star game. " The all star game has been criticized for poor goaltending, forwards who don't backcheck and players who can't be bothered to care. So in short, Erik Karlsson has played in about 40 of these games this year.

[Arashi Kage]

This is the Moose's real legacy, lol

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To this day, my bro and I still break out the "alweese frooosh" line from time to time when chips are involved, lol.

Gotta love the old Messier commercials. :y: Gotta love that you can find almost any old random piece of TV history on youtube.

[Gertner]

Fucking Leafs.

[Lara Emily]

Ha Ha

Cheer up Gertner the more they lose the better chance they have at a lottery pick.... oh wait.

Ha Ha

[Blitz]

A real shame we can't be doing as good as the Senators this year.

[Lara Emily]

A real shame we can't be doing as good as the Senators this year.

Are you directing that at me? I don't even give a shit about the Senators. I'm a Penguins fan.

[El Fangel]

Jamstar is the only sens "fan" I know of.

[Lara Emily]

Jamstar is the only sens "fan" I know of.

Poor bastard

[El Fangel]

Thing is, sans getting that toaster for xmas, I havent once heard him talk about hockey.

[OssMan]

There was the Canada vs. Oceania hockey match he went too

[Splaya]

Rumor has it if he clears waivers, Evgeni Nabakov will sign with the Red Wings

[Gertner]

Lol Detroit is getting desperate. Johnny is awful.

[El Fangel]

So are you at getting names right.

[Gertner]

Lol you don't remember Evgeni going by John for a couple years?

[El Fangel]

I thought you were referring to Jimmy Howard. :(

[LoDownM]

lol, and the Islanders claimed him off waivers.

[Splaya]

Yeah the Islanders can go fuck themselves. Hope he doesnt report to them

[Gertner]

He'd have to go through waivers again before he's traded again anyways and you know Ottawa would grab him.

[Hanso Amore]

Matt Moulson feasts on the Sabres. Like 5 or 6 goals this year.

[Hanso Amore]

Sabres 6 points out of t he playoffs with three games in hand on Atlanta. Going to squeak in

[Hanso Amore]

And fuck the Messier Hate. One of the 10 best players all time. And one of the 10 best Captains all time. Dude was the epitome of a hockey player.

[Hanso Amore]

And I hate all of the teams he ever played for. That is how good he is. messier is on my radar.

All Three Members of the French Connection.
Pat LALALALALALALALALAFONTAINE
Dominek Hasek
Joe Nieuwendyk
MESSIER

Person favs list

[Skippord]

Peter Forsberg practicing with the Avs makes me very excited

[El Fangel]

Hanso, I want to bitch slap you for spelling Haseks name wrong and your a bigger Buffalo fan then I ever was.

[Hanso Amore]

Boo Hoo. I was 16 beers in last night when I wrote that.

[Hanso Amore]

The only reason I was even able to get Nieuwendyk right is because of a picture on my wall!

[YOUR Hero]

I dont see Oilers rings as a show of leadership, he was on a fucking good team at the height or its play. Excellent player, average leader.

Also I FUCKING hate with a fucking passion when people use Stanley Cups as a measure of personal achievement. Its a team achievement, not a personal one.

He lead the rangers yes, but what if he didnt win the Cup after making the call? It wouldnt be remembered much at all.

Also, who did he lead to win? He scored the goals himself.

I love the guy, he is an amazing player but an amazing leader he is not.
you're talking out of your butt. You didn't see him take charge of the
Oil and break the Islanders hold on cup #5. To name only 1

[Londoner]

Well this all star game is a fucking joke.

[Emperor Smeat]

Its a pretty good idea to mix up the normal East vs West and all-star games have always been about great offense but the goalies are not even trying to do anything in the game.

[El Fangel]

105.9?

No fucking thank you.

[JimmyMess]

Well this all star game is a fucking joke.

The all star game always sucks. Hasn't been a memorable moment since Owen Nolan called his shot on Hasek... What was that 97? 96?

I missed the Skills Competition this year, and thats about the only thing I like from all star weekend... and I heard it was shit too...

[Gertner]

The Skills Competition was pretty cool actually this year. I'd love an all stars vs Stanley Cup Winner game like the NHL used to do.

[Hanso Amore]

I thought the Skills Show was fun and cool. Poorly presented.

I like the twist it adds with the Fantasy draft. Seeing the Sedins on other teams was cool. AS was seeing guys play their own goalie in the skills comp.

[Lara Emily]

The Skills Competition was pretty cool actually this year. I'd love an all stars vs Stanley Cup Winner game like the NHL used to do.


Why? The All Star team would destroy the Cup winners 9 times out of 10

[JimmyMess]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=352084

So let me get this straight... the league will rescind on an automatic 1-game suspension after a match penalty was given (sucker punch)

but then they will turn around and suspend players for hits when there was no penalty on the play to begin with?

I'm not saying the players who got the suspensions didn't deserve them. But come the fuck on... at least try to maintain consistency with your fucking rules. No wonder this game is in total disarray.

Jesus fuck.

[Hanso Amore]

I dont know. Neither team would really be trying, just like the All star game. WOuld be cool to see.

[Hanso Amore]

TERRY PUGULA

[El Fangel]

I love how Crosby is so outspoken on headshots now and not after his cunt of a teammate leveled Savard.

[Corndad]

Goalie Fight!!! Johnson just rocked DiPietro!

[Kapoutman]

I love how Crosby is so outspoken on headshots now and not after his cunt of a teammate leveled Savard.

I don't know what your obsession is with Crosby, but of course he wasn't going to criticize when his teammate did it. Even if he didn't approve, openly criticizing a teammate has always been frowned upon in the NHL. That's the same reason why Sean Avery can still be the biggest asshole in the NHL and his teammates never complain.

[Gertner]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=352084

So let me get this straight... the league will rescind on an automatic 1-game suspension after a match penalty was given (sucker punch)

but then they will turn around and suspend players for hits when there was no penalty on the play to begin with?

I'm not saying the players who got the suspensions didn't deserve them. But come the fuck on... at least try to maintain consistency with your fucking rules. No wonder this game is in total disarray.

Jesus fuck.

To be fair, Prust is a tough guy and sold that punch like he got decked by Mike Tyson.

[Gertner]

Why? The All Star team would destroy the Cup winners 9 times out of 10

I'm pretty sure when the NHL used to do that format it was pretty even. I think it'd be more intense because for example, if the Pens won the cup and played you'd have guys like Asham and Rupp who only really know how to play gritty and it'd kinda more a point of pride to have your regular team beat an all star team.

[Hanso Amore]

Those days are gone.

No way the owners let top stars play a meaningless game with the chance that some cock strong bruiser wants to show his ass.

[Gertner]

Lol Godard just pounding on an all star would be amazing

[Splaya]

Franzen dropping 5 goals last night....ship it

[JimmyMess]

Franzen dropping 5 goals last night....ship it

Everyone with him in their hockey pool just splurged in their pants...

[El Fangel]

I declined a trade for him night before last, I had Ott + Bergfors + 4th Round Prospect Pick. Now that would have looked like a steal.