NHL 2010-2011 Season Thread

[KleptoKlown]

Habs pick up Sopel. His best years are behind him, but come playoffs, he turns his game up.

Kovalev for a 7th rounder....lol. I think that guarantees Ottawa a lottery pick this year. Kinda surprised thats all Ottawa got for him though.

[KleptoKlown]

Nah fuck that any Malkin trade is a loss cause you're giving up the best player. Pens had best PK without Staal in the lineup and like I said he has an unearned reputation of being a good player, so I think you could get a team to give a decent return.

Malkin is obviously way better than Staal, but the return on Malkin would be amazing. Get Crosby that winger he needs. If they were getting a star back...someone like Rick Nash maybe...then why not do it?

I just don't trust Russian hockey players (Igor Larionov being an exception.) Havent since Pavel Bure.

[El Fangel]

Habs pick up Sopel. His best years are behind him, but come playoffs, he turns his game up.

Kovalev for a 7th rounder....lol. I think that guarantees Ottawa a lottery pick this year. Kinda surprised thats all Ottawa got for him though.

He is worth more?

[parkmania]

Kovalev for a 7th rounder....lol. I think that guarantees Ottawa a lottery pick this year. Kinda surprised thats all Ottawa got for him though.

If the Pens make it to the second round and Kovie plays in X% of the time in the playoffs, the pick becomes a 6th rounder.

[KleptoKlown]

He is worth more?

He's lifted the cup and has tons of playoff experience. I'm not saying i'd spend the farm on the guy, but still...a 6th or 7th rounder in whats considered a weak draft? Figured it would have been a 3rd rounder and a career minor leaguer that is good to call up in a pinch, especially considering the Sens depleted roster.

[JimmyMess]

Kovalev is a lazy spud. Tons of talent, most teams probably offered the same type of deal for him.

[Blitz]

Leafs 4 points out of the playoffs. Looking better.

[Lara Emily]

Welcome to my world last year with the Red Wings

You had all those guys out at once? Cause that's what my list is that's the Pens current list.

[Corndad]

This Leafs Pens Third Period is crazy.

[Lara Emily]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALEXI KOVALEV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[El Fangel]

Neal - Crosby - Kovalev - Malkin - Letang

Pittsburghs healthy Power Play unit?

[Kapoutman]

Not gonna happen this year.

[Emperor Smeat]

:D Bruins 3-1 over Canucks (#1 overall in NHL).

Also are 4-0 in the road trip in a 6-game road trip with 5 of them in Canada.

[Lara Emily]

Neal - Crosby - Kovalev - Malkin - Letang

Pittsburghs healthy Power Play unit?

Next year maybe and it'll be Neal Crosby Malkin Kovalev Letang

[parkmania]

And it's "Alex" Kovalev, not "Alexi". He decided to Aglicize it.

[weather vane]

The SHERIFF is BACK!

#34

[LoDownM]

Slow trade deadline imo.

[weather vane]

Oh big time... all the deals happened over the past 2 weeks.

[Kapoutman]

BOOOOOORING.

[LoDownM]

Oh big time... all the deals happened over the past 2 weeks.


True, I was expecting some bigger trades before the deadline, but the only big one was the Penner trade.

[OssMan]

Fuck, can't believe the Capitals traded David Steckel. He is so good. Wins so many face offs and is just a "hard worker." Wish they would trade fucking Mike Green because the league seems to love him even though he still can't play defense. Could get so much for him.

[El Fangel]

Crosby
Malkin
Kunitz
Letestu
Jeffery
Asham
Orpik
Martin
Nick Johnson
Tangradi
Comrie


And Kennedy now.

[LoDownM]

Letestu is back, and Martin will be back tomorrow, Kunitz should be back soon too. Getting some players back at least.

[El Fangel]

Fleury is a spintop as he is always standing on his head these days.

[Lara Emily]

And Kennedy now.

Kennedy and Martin expected to play tonight whooooo

and they took Staal off the first line yessssss!

[El Fangel]

Tough loss tonight, but felt Reimer deserved it. Kid is golden atm.

[Blitz]

Leafs as a whole deserved it. They played hard, as they've been playing for the past couple of weeks.

[El Fangel]

Kulemin - Grabovski - MacArthur

That line is mint.

[Hanso Amore]

Tonight with a Win we will see a new 8th seed that is one point out of 7th with 3 games in hand

[El Fangel]

http://sports.ca.msn.com/nhl/photos/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=27867065&page=1

Excellent, Excellent read.

[Gertner]

OPTIMUS REIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[weather vane]

bruins

[LoDownM]

Man the Western Conference is insane. One loss and you could go from the 4th seed to out of the playoffs.

[Lara Emily]

Hey Spilchuk

Penguins!

[El Fangel]

Carey Price.

[Kapoutman]

Spilchuk, remember when you asked how anybody could like the Habs? I'm wondering the same thing about the Bruins right now. Can't think of a single likeable guy on that team not named Patrice Bergeron or Mark Recchi.

[Lara Emily]

Likeable guys list certainly doesn't include Chara jesus brutal hit on a guy who doesn't have the puck, who is no where near the puck when the hit was initiated
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[El Fangel]

There goes all respect I had for Chara.

Oh and Kapoutman, to be fair Kabs and Thomas are ok.

[Lara Emily]

There goes all respect I had for Chara.

Oh and Kapoutman, to be fair Kabs and Thomas are ok.

Tim Thomas is a loveable angry fella

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[El Fangel]

its Avery...cooooooommmmmeeeeeee onnnnnnnnnnnn

[Lara Emily]

its Avery...cooooooommmmmeeeeeee onnnnnnnnnnnn


I wasn't being sarcastic, I find Tim Thomas to be absolutely loveable, in part because he's an angry fella

Like he's often just super pissed at himself when a goal goes in and he shows it, it's kinda funny and pretty entertaining. To boot he's a great goalie with a great story, he was drafted in 94 didn't make his NHL debut until 2002-2003 (where he played all of 4 games) and wasn't a starter until 2005-2006, now he's a vezina winner. A total out of nowhere success story, what's not to admire.

[El Fangel]

Ah, ok. I mean he normally has a good disposition. Sarcasm is difficult to send through font.

[Lara Emily]

Nah he's known to be an angry fella, but it's not a bad thing, it's a good thing

This is a good piece on Timmy http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/james_duthie/?id=255419

Thomas makes ugly, ridiculous, impossible saves nightly. And just to make things interesting, he's occasionally awful. When that happens, when he flips when he should have flopped, he gets so mad at himself, it looks like David Banner turning into The Hulk.
He grew up in Flint, Michigan, around the time Michael Moore made "Roger and Me", a movie about the town dying. His Dad, Tim Sr., was a used car salesman at a time when no one in Flint could afford a car. So he sold apples door-to-door. He'd sell ten bushels, use some of the money to buy seven more, and give those to Tim to sell. That's how Jr. raised his money to play hockey.
When things got really bad, his parents pawned their wedding rings to pay for Tim to go to a goalie school. The son didn't find out until his Dad bought his Mom a new one many years later.
He wore the same beaten up pads for years, repairing them over and over until they… well… disintegrated.
"I was playing for the Lakeland Jets and (former NHLer) Joe Murphy was skating with us while he was holding out with the Oilers," Thomas says. "He took a shot and it literally went right through my pad and out the backside."
Murphy would do more for the young goalie than give him a great story for beer-night. Thomas was a never-see-the-ice third stringer on that Lakeland junior team, so he started playing forward. But right after the Christmas break, the starting goalie missed his flight back from Alaska and the back-up got in a car accident. So Thomas took all the shots in practice. As he was skating off the ice, he heard Murphy say to the coach: "Why aren't you playing that guy?"
So he did. Every game for the rest of the year. That launched Thomas on a netminding odyssey that would take him to, in chronological order: Vermont (University), Helsinki, Birmingham (ECHL), Houston (IHL), Hamilton (AHL), Helsinki (again), Detroit (IHL), Sweden, back to Finland, Providence (AHL), Boston (cup of coffee), Providence, Helsinki (this is getting silly), Providence, and finally, at the age of 32, Boston…to stay.
"It never once crossed my mind to quit," Thomas says. "But at one point, I did make peace with the fact I'd be playing in Europe for the rest of my career."
He might have, except that when a bunch of other NHL goalies came over to Europe during the lockout, Thomas outplayed them all, and forced the Bruins to take another look. Three years later, they're still looking.


His competitiveness is legendary. As a junior, he was invited to the U.S Olympic Festival, essentially a tryout camp for the World Juniors. The players were split into four squads and played a round-robin. Thomas played half of each of the four games, and gave up just one goal as his team won the tournament. The other goalie on his squad gave up 11, and he was the one picked for the World Junior team.
"I was so mad," recalls Thomas. "USA Hockey had bought me a dozen sticks, and it was the first time anyone had bought me sticks so it was huge for me. Well, I went in the back room and demolished every stick against the wall. I was irate."
Even better story: when he played at Vermont, he once got so mad after being scored on, he picked up the puck and launched it at the scoreboard, shattering lights and causing a fireworks show reminiscent of Roy Hobbs last homerun in The Natural. And that was in practice.
"There were pieces of light falling over the ice," says St Louis, chuckling. "It was hilarious."
Just watch Thomas when he loses a shootout. He sprints off the ice like someone tossed a grenade in his net. Like they're going to send him back to Flint to sell apples.
Somewhat sadly, we're not seeing many of those Thomas tantrums anymore (Angry Tim is my favorite Tim). He just doesn't get scored on much. He was an All-Star last year and his .944 save percentage leads the NHL this season.
And yet, so typical of his Dangerfield existence, he was left off the All-Star ballot. There they go. Doubting Thomas. Again.
"I'm going to have to disappoint you and give you a 'No comment' on that one," he says. That's okay. Sometimes "No comment" says more than a dozen quoted paragraphs.

One time after let up a game winning goal to Mike Richards picked the puck out of the night threw it into the air and batted it away with his stick.

[El Fangel]

Tim is awesome!

[KleptoKlown]

0 games for Chara...

Common sense tells you the hit was 100% revenge...but Chara's been clean for 13 years. If it were Matt Cooke that did this, you'd hang him out to dry because of his past history. Since Chara doesn't have that type of history, he shouldn't get a massive suspension, but he shouldn't have got a pass either.

Little side note...Colin Campbell's son Gregory plays for the Bruins.

[Lara Emily]

pathetic, the NHL is such a bush league

[LoDownM]

Little side note...Colin Campbell's son Gregory plays for the Bruins.

I'm pretty sure Colin Campbell isn't allowed to make decisions when it comes to a team his son is on. Remember hearing about it on NHL Live like 2 years ago when his son was on the Panthers and something happened.


At any rate I think Chara should of gotten a few games even with 13 years without an incident.

[Emperor Smeat]

Chara should have been a bit more aware seeing first hand how devastating those types of hits can be to a team with Marc Savard out for the year.

Can't completely blame him since Bruins-Canadians games tend to be more emotional and physical especially the past few years but at the same time, he can't just do reckless hits causing the team to lose him for a series of games due to a stupid mistake by him.

[weather vane]

The right call was made. Chara maybe should have known his surroundings better but if that opening isn't there, we aren't even thinking about this.

Some really dumb comments from some of you.

[El Fangel]

The right call was made. Chara maybe should have known his surroundings better but if that opening isn't there, we aren't even thinking about this.

Some really dumb comments from some of you.


BROSSARD, Quebec (AP)—Montreal Canadiens (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/mon/) forward Max Pacioretty (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/4261/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/4261/news) has a severe concussion and a fractured vertebra from a frightening hit by Boston’s Zdeno Chara (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/1700/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/1700/news) that will not draw further discipline from the NHL.
Pacioretty fractured the fourth cervical vertebra and is in a hospital under observation, Canadiens coach Jacques Martin said Wednesday.

And link to full article
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-canadiens-pacioretty

I'd agree with the no previous thing of this sort, but the fact remains, Chara knew what he was doing, knew where he was and most of all knows his hits send people flying.

Thats besides the fact, it was a borderline illegal hit.

Its alright to defend your team, but drawn the line somewhere man.

[Blitz]

The right call was made. Chara maybe should have known his surroundings better but if that opening isn't there, we aren't even thinking about this.

Some really dumb comments from some of you.
Look at the video, Spilly. Chara had his head up. He knew where he was. I'm not saying he intended to kill Pacioretti, but I do think he meant to put him into that divider. He doesn't even body him into the boards. It looks like he pushes him.

Even if he didn't see the divider, part of a player's job is to know his position on the ice. If the divider isn't there, the hit is still dirty because it's well after Pacioretti has gotten rid of the puck.

Even if Chara didn't have intent on the hit, it doesn't matter. If I have a gun and I'm waving it around and accidentally shoot someone, I'm fucked, whether I intended to or not. He should've got at least a few games suspension.

[weather vane]

Wow... you guys are so smart.

You guys should be on the discipline committee. You would do a much better job.

[Blitz]

First video Lara posted is awful by the way. Bruins commentators trying to justify it. Stupid.

[weather vane]

Bruins commentators are the biggest homers of all time and I love it.

[OssMan]

zdeno lara

[OssMan]

zidane o'chara

[El Fangel]

Bruins fans are the biggest homers of all time and I love how I am one of them.

[El Fangel]

Hell, a TORONTO fan is voicing opinion against Chara for a hit on a Montreal player.

Just because its a player on a team I root for doesnt matter, hell if it was Kessel I would say the same thing.

fact of the matter is, the kid is what 20-21 years old and may not play hockey again. Chara knows full well the severity of hits like that, as he fucking witnessed one when Savard was laid out.

[El Fangel]

Here Spilly, justify this.

Look at Charas left arm muscle, he is pushing with it.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/255072144.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1299724904&Signature=NcUJqtN3WbczuzeH%2BpltfstjBbc%3D

[El Fangel]

Oh and one other thing.

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[Kapoutman]

Even the Boston Globe guy said the hit was dirty and deserved a suspension.

[El Fangel]

Simply put, being a fan of a team doesnt make them immune from your ridicule. Do you think Pens fans for one second condone Matt Cooke's hit on Savard?

Ask LoDownM who is a Pitts fan whether he tried to defend Cooke. I dont believe he did, he knew it was a dirty hit.

Being a fan is about loving the franchise, it is not about defending any actions of the players wearing the sweater.

[Lara Emily]

Simply put, being a fan of a team doesnt make them immune from your ridicule. Do you think Pens fans for one second condone Matt Cooke's hit on Savard?

Ask LoDownM who is a Pitts fan whether he tried to defend Cooke. I dont believe he did, he knew it was a dirty hit.

Being a fan is about loving the franchise, it is not about defending any actions of the players wearing the sweater.


Only thing I ever said about the Cooke hit on Savard is that it was legal at the time. It was still a cheap hit and I'm glad it's now against the rules.

[El Fangel]

Yeah, at the time it was a "clean" hit. :roll:

I know what you meant but still :roll:

[Lara Emily]

Yeah, at the time it was a "clean" hit. :roll:

I know what you meant but still :roll:

I didn't say it was clean i said it was legal

I'm not condoning it, but I think it's a bad example because technically it wasn't an illegal hit at the time, it was a kind of hit that Scott Stevens built a career on.

But now thankfully the NHL had said enough is enough (though they really haven't) and deemed it an illegal hit from here on out and to that I say great.

So basically I condemn the Cooke hit while at the same time support the NHL decision at the time to not suspend him.


With this Chara hit though it was already an illegal hit, Chara had no business making that hit and to boot from replays it certainly looks liked he purposely gave Pacioretty an extra shove that caused him to go right into that turnbuckle.

[El Fangel]

I didn't say it was clean i said it was legal

I'm not condoning it, but I think it's a bad example because technically it wasn't an illegal hit at the time, it was a kind of hit that Scott Stevens built a career on.

But now thankfully the NHL had said enough is enough (though they really haven't) and deemed it an illegal hit from here on out and to that I say great.

So basically I condemn the Cooke hit while at the same time support the NHL decision at the time to not suspend him.


With this Chara hit though it was already an illegal hit, Chara had no business making that hit and to boot from replays it certainly looks liked he purposely gave Pacioretty an extra shove that caused him to gro right into that turnbuckle.

Im sorry, but the turnbuckle comment has me in stitches.

Anyways, I agree with what you are saying. Im glad NHL started to crack down on pieces of crap like Cooke.

[Lara Emily]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=357316.

Pacioretty speaks out with scathing but on the mark statements

"I am upset and disgusted that the league didn't think enough of (the hit) to suspend him," Pacioretty told TSN. "I'm not mad for myself, I'm mad because if other players see a hit like that and think it's okay, they won't be suspended, then other players will get hurt like I got hurt.

"It's been an emotional day. I saw the video for the first time this morning. You see the hit, I've got a fractured vertebrae, I'm in hospital and I thought the league would do something, a little something," said Pacioretty.

"I'm not talking a big number, I don't know, one game, two games, three games...whatever, but something to show that it's not right." "I heard (Chara) said he didn't mean to do it. I felt he did mean to do it. I would feel better if he said he made a mistake and that he was sorry for doing that, I could forgive that, but I guess he's talking about how I jumped up or something."

"I believe he was trying to guide my head into the turnbuckle. We all know where the turnbuckle is. It wasn't a head shot like a lot of head shots we see but I do feel he targeted my head into the turnbuckle." Still can't believe Chara got away with nothing, not even a fucking fine.

[El Fangel]

Oh, wasnt aware it was actually called a turnbuckle lol.

Though, straight from the guys mouth. He didnt feel it was a mistake.

[JimmyMess]

He did get the one automatic game though for a 5 minute major correct?

So he's not scot-free.... just not getting anymore than he did....

[El Fangel]

<table summary="Penalty Summary"><tbody><tr><td class="time title" scope="row">19:44</td> <td class="team title">Boston</td> <td class="penalty title">interference - 5 min</td> <td class="player title">Z. Chara drawn by M. Pacioretty served by S. Thornton</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td class="time title" scope="row">19:44</td> <td class="team title">Boston</td> <td class="penalty title">game misconduct - 10 min</td> <td class="player title">Z. Chara drawn by M. Pacioretty</td></tr></tbody></table>
From yahoo.

I dont believe he gets the one game suspension though. Even Pac said he wished Chara got even one game.

[El Fangel]

From what I can tell, he added to his PIM total and thats about it.

[Kapoutman]

Yup, no suspension AT ALL.

The Montreal police opened an investigation about the event by the way.

[weather vane]

I wonder if people accusing Chara of doing this on purpose are taking into account the physics, timing, and execution such a ‘perfect’ plan would require. But a conspiracy theory makes for better reading than bad luck.

Air Canada is a such a fucking joke too. I’m sure glad they took this stance last year when Marc Savard was maimed in what was a vicious elbow. Oh that’s right, they didn’t say a fucking word because it wasn’t a Montreal Canadien that had to be scraped off the ice.

[Kapoutman]

Air Canada? What about them?

And Spilchuk, when's the last time you've played hockey? I can tell you that the way they were going, it didn't take a "master plan" to get Pacioretty like this. They were side by side, near the glass, and Chara is so fucking huge. Pushing someone out of balance on skates is very easy, and at the speed they were going, of course it wasn't going to end well. Trust me.

[weather vane]

If the glass isn't open is this even talked about?

[weather vane]

Not even close!

[Kapoutman]

That's the thing you don't seem to understand. OF COURSE it's not talked about if the glass isn't there. But Chara saw an opportunity to get even and took it. Pacioretty hit him after the overtime goal in January, Chara didn't like it. He tried to get his hands on him in February, couldn't. Now he had his opportunity, and took it. That's it.

It wasn't a huge conspiracy by Chara to deliberately get Pacioretty near the glass and then behead him, we get that. They just happened to be there, he saw his chance to get even, he made the cheap push to get him in the glass, the consequences were much worse than he anticipated, but he still did it. The video replays, the pictures, they all clearly show the push.

[Kapoutman]

Hell, it's like that time Kostopoulos checked Van Ryn from behind and nearly killed him. Kostopoulos didn't mean to injure him, and it wouldn't have been talked about if Van Ryn didn't turn around at the last second. Kostopoulos could have braked, but he still went ahead with the hit, with the consequences we know. Kostopoulos was suspended. That's it. No conspiracy, but he still chose to take the opportunity to hit when he could have passed.

[weather vane]

It is insane to think that he hit him into the glass on purpose. Fans like you are why hockey is in the shape it is in. I'm done with the topic on here. What a waste of fucking time.

[Kapoutman]

That's nice because I think the exact same thing about you. Talking hockey with most people sucks because it's guys like you who scream murder when your team gets beaten, but become overprotective any time it's implied that one of your precious players did something dickish. Nobody will think less of you because a player on your favorite team did something cheap. I know you're knowledgeable about hockey, which is why I think it's insane to see you protect Chara like that just because he's a Bruins.

The hit on Pacioretty was bad. The hit on Savard was also bad. I'm sure someone on the Habs probably did something cheap in the last few year as well. Hell, we had Lapierre on the roster for a bit, so it probably happened.

Just watch the replay again and see for yourself. Yes, he pushed him. That's not even questionable. I know he didn't want to break is neck. Nobody plays hockey to injure someone, at least I like to think so. But it still happened.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Kapoutman will tell you how much I love Chara from his time at the Sens, and even I can see it was a horrible hit.

[Lara Emily]

I wonder if people accusing Chara of doing this on purpose are taking into account the physics, timing, and execution such a ‘perfect’ plan would require. But a conspiracy theory makes for better reading than bad luck.

Air Canada is a such a fucking joke too. I’m sure glad they took this stance last year when Marc Savard was maimed in what was a vicious elbow. Oh that’s right, they didn’t say a fucking word because it wasn’t a Montreal Canadien that had to be scraped off the ice.


Wait maimed with a vicious elbow?

Are we talking about Matt Cooke incident here because there was no elbow, it was all shoulder.

[Hanso Amore]

Maybe he didnt plan on leading his head into that Turnbuckle, but he was pushing it it somewhere. Had it been 3 feet further down ice, his head still would have been pushed by charas hand into a hard surface. Still wouldnt be very good.

[El Fangel]

Chara with a boarding penalty tonight.

[weather vane]

Yeah that was a boarding penalty too... He hit the ice 10 feet before he even hit the boards. You are a fucking moron. Honest to God, you are such an idiot. You know zero about hockey and what you pretend to know is pulled from random sources. A complete joke.

[OssMan]

who are you talking to

[weather vane]

FA obviously. Who else would I be talking about? It's embarrassing. Honestly it is embarrassing.

[Lara Emily]

FA obviously. Who else would I be talking about? It's embarrassing. Honestly it is embarrassing.

You didn't answer my question when you said Savard got hit with a vicious elbow were you talking about the infamous Cooke hit?

[Emperor Smeat]

Looks like the Chara issue is going to become a bigger issue for the NHL.

Air Canada wants to end its sponsorship of the NHL and the NHL responded that if they want out, the NHL will cancel its bookings with the airliner and find a new one.

If Air Canada decides to drop its sponsorship, it also looses exemption rights for flights in the US due to US laws not allowing foreign airlines to operate just in the US.

[Lara Emily]

The Prime Minister of Canada is even speaking out about head shots now.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=357403

Joe Thornton calls out Spilchuk's team for getting special treatment from the league, couldn't have anything to do with Gregory Campbell tho, not at all LOL.

Also in this article Henrik Sedin calls out Chara too.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/stars+Henrik+Sedin+Thornton+into+Zdeno+Chara+decision+Bruins/4419822/story.html (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=357474)

[Lara Emily]

Oh yeah and

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183087_10150443041950354_658460353_17689980_7721580_n.jpg

[Gertner]

Max never looked better. heh. Typical over-reaction from people who have probably seen 2 games in their life.

[El Fangel]

Its amusing, I'm the idiot but you can't admit someone on your team crossed the line.

Nearly everyone in this thread has shown you evidence to the contrary on what you think chara did and what professionals in the league have said about chara is critisizing not condoning.

I have never had a problem with you Spilly, but I have to say you are being a huge homer dude. Ill ignore your previous comment because I know your better then that.

Simply put mate, its NOT just Montreal fans who are pissed at what happened. I will never hold Chara in the same respect again. Lastly, i want to make it clear, i don't hate the bruins or even chara but i have lost all respect for him.

[Lara Emily]

Max never looked better. heh. Typical over-reaction from people who have probably seen 2 games in their life.

Been watching for over 20 years but nice try

[El Fangel]

17 years for myself. Just want to notate that.

[Hanso Amore]

Fuck Boston.

NATHAN GERBE.

[Gertner]

It's an over-reaction. I HIGHLY doubt Chara ment to do that. It's typical pussy Habs fans bitching about another player running one of their pussy players.

[Hanso Amore]

It's an over-reaction. I HIGHLY doubt Chara ment to do that. It's typical pussy Habs fans bitching about another player running one of their pussy players.

Doesnt matter. Even if he didnt aim for the Buckle - Still a hit to the head, and still was trying to push that head into something, anything. I can buy that he didnt know the turnbuckle was there, but I wont believe one of the Best Hockey Players on the Planet didnt know there was going to be SOMETHING there. Like I said, even if it was the glass, it would have been a BS hit.

[Blitz]

I'm not a Habs fan. And it's still a dirty hit. Even if he didn't mean to do it (and based on the video, it sure looks like he did), he's still responsible.

[Hanso Amore]

And its not an OVERREACTION.

Dude has broken vertebrae due to a hit to the head. And people want a suspension. Even just one game. Which happened to jsut about every other head hit. Shit, someone jsut got 3 games yesterday (slips my mind who).

[El Fangel]

Gertner is one classy fellow. We should all strive to be just like him.

[El Fangel]

And its not an OVERREACTION.

Dude has broken vertebrae due to a hit to the head. And people want a suspension. Even just one game. Which happened to jsut about every other head hit. Shit, someone jsut got 3 games yesterday (slips my mind who).

Kubina on Bolland, was suspended 3 games for an elbow to the head.


TORONTO (AP)—The NHL has suspended Tampa Bay Lightning (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/tam/) defenseman Pavel Kubina (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/1733/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/1733/news) for three games for delivering an elbow to the head of Chicago’s Dave Bolland (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/3812/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/3812/news).
Kubina also was fined $60,096.76, a total based on his average annual salary.

The elbowing incident occurred 2:09 into Wednesday night’s game in Tampa. The Lightning won 4-3 in overtime.
Kubina is eligible to return March 17 against Montreal. He will miss games against Ottawa, Florida and Toronto.

[JimmyMess]

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It was mildly entertaining!

[MVP]

I'll agree that Chara's hit on Pacioretty was dirty, but a police investigation? C'mon, give me a break.

[Kapoutman]

I'll agree that Chara's hit on Pacioretty was dirty, but a police investigation? C'mon, give me a break.

See? That I can get behind.

[KleptoKlown]

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There always has been a double standard for most Habs fan...
Regardless, Chara should have got some sort punishment. Chara showed no respect to Pacioretty. You don't have to like your opponents, but you have to respect them. Pacioretty might never play again, it's no better than what Todd Bertuzzi did.

[KleptoKlown]

Speaking of Hal Gill...

Rick Rypien is playing for the Moose right now. Nice to have him as a spare part for a playoff drive.

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[El Fangel]

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There always has been a double standard for most Habs fan...
Regardless, Chara should have got some sort punishment. Chara showed no respect to Pacioretty. You don't have to like your opponents, but you have to respect them. Pacioretty might never play again, it's no better than what Todd Bertuzzi did.

Wait for it...



Wait for ITTTTTTT!!!!!!!

















HAL GILL MADE A DIRTY HIT!!!!!









OMFG, The world didnt explode because I talked bad about a member of my team!

[Hanso Amore]

Why is no one talking about how Nathan Horton is

a) A Bitch who was punked by a 5'6 Gerbe

or

b) A Flopping Bitch?

[Hanso Amore]

Either way, hes a pussy ass bitch

Fuck Boston

[El Fangel]

Wait, someone got punked by the midget? Lol.

[Hanso Amore]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-eBR6e_ws4&feature=player_embedded

The Midge makes Horton looks like a bitch.

[Hanso Amore]

Here is why I love that so much.

Either Horton is a Bitch or a flopper. I love Gerbe but he shouldnt put a POWER FORWARD like Horton on his ass.

McCormick was gassed but dragged Lucic (one of the baddest men in the NHL) into a fight ( his 2nd) while he was gassed at the end of a shift, after just fucking WRECKING BOYCHUCK.

Then Gerbe out hustles everyone in my Sabres goal f the year to win the game.

BAM

[El Fangel]

Gerbe next to Myers is ridiculous.

[Hanso Amore]

Gerbe makes St. Louis look like Eric Lindros

[Lara Emily]

Don Cherry blames Habs owner and the arena for Pacioretty's injury.

also calls out Air Canada and Via Rail

“How about VIA Rail? What a phoney they are jumping on the bandwagon. And Air Canada, you should be ashamed of yourself. By the way, where are their corporate headquarters? We know where they are — Montreal.”


Also he apparently had to ask Ron Maclean what Max Pacioretty's name was, and referred to him as that guy. He also reduced Pacioretty's injuries to "being at home with a headache"

As if we needed more Proof that Don Cherry is a dipstick

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/don-cherry-calls-out-habs-owner-on-pacioretty-hit/article1940068/

[El Fangel]

Don, wtf man.

[El Fangel]

There are 6 arenas in the NHL without seamless glass and board. wantto know what its like to be checked into it head first? Bend over and run into the side of the arena on the way in.

[El Fangel]

Cost to install vastly safer glass and boards? $250,0000

[KleptoKlown]

Don Cherry blames Habs owner and the arena for Pacioretty's injury.

also calls out Air Canada and Via Rail




Also he apparently had to ask Ron Maclean what Max Pacioretty's name was, and referred to him as that guy. He also reduced Pacioretty's injuries to "being at home with a headache"

As if we needed more Proof that Don Cherry is a dipstick

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/don-cherry-calls-out-habs-owner-on-pacioretty-hit/article1940068/

No one can deny the design of the rink was a contributing factor. Its not 100% Chara's fault.

PS
Suck it fLames

[RP]

Toews

[El Fangel]

I knew about him hiding on the bus already, but...

Chara hid on the bus until a Bruins employee told him he had to face the media, said he didn't know where on the ice he was, had the temerity to say Pacioretty jumped into the stanchion, and later stated he didn't even realize it was his frequent antagonist (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Zdeno-Chara-8216-had-no-idea-8217-he-was-tak?urn=nhl-wp48) whose face he was driving into a wall at 20 miles an hour, as if that made the act any more palatable. All those statements are bordering on pure fiction.

WHAT?!

[Hanso Amore]

RIP Rick Martin

1951-2011

http://www.buffalonews.com/incoming/article212433.ece/BINARY/w620/FRENCH+CONNECTION2.jpg

[El Fangel]

Poor guy, was reading of his death in the paper this morning. Car crash apparently :( Guy was only 59 :(

RIP

[Hanso Amore]

It looks like they are now deeming a Fatal Heart Attack that led to the crash.

Dude was an Icon here. Not just for hockey. Hes still lives here and is Well known as a major charity player. More people know him as Rico at the local golf courses than as a player. Just an all round great guy that loved the Sabres.

I had the honor of meeting him at a Charity Golf Tourney 3 years ago.

[RP]

Toews

[El Fangel]

Kesler.

[Gertner]

Fucking Roloson. The Leafs can never beat him. It's insane.

[El Fangel]

Same as Caps earler this season.

[Emperor Smeat]

:eek: Bruins won a shootout. They usually are horrible and rarely win one of these. Not counting Seguin, the next best for goals scored percentage is like 25% or less (might be Bergeron).

Also ended up being the 2,800th win in team history.

Montreal lost to Washington so Washington kept its 5pt lead for 2nd place and Bruins add 2 more for a 4pt lead in the division over Montreal.

[Lara Emily]

TYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYLER KENNEDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




KENNEDY!

[El Fangel]

Guy is taking the puck and skating with it.

[OssMan]

fuck dwayne roloson

and tyler kennedy also

[Gertner]

Optimus Reim comes up huge. Wow, amazing tonight.

[KleptoKlown]

Optimus Reim...

Meanwhile, in reality, Canucks are the first team to secure a playoff birth.

It's a great time to be a Canucks fan as this is the best Nucks team...ever.

[Lara Emily]

Better than cup run 94?

[Lara Emily]

More fun from The Bruins

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[KleptoKlown]

Marchand only got 2 games for that too. I hate it when the NHL suspends players based on the results of the injury. If Umberger was hurt on this play, the suspension would have been longer.

It was a hit from behind to the head. Should have thrown the book at him.

I'm all for a big hit or a good fight but there is no need in the game for garbage hits like that. The line needs to be drawn and enough of these pussy ass 1-2 game slap on the wrist suspensions.

[KleptoKlown]

Better than cup run 94?

Way better.

This years team is 4 Lines deep(5 lines really...) No useless plugs like Dana Myrzun or Sergi Momesso. This years team is missing the leadership of Linden and Adams, the flare of Bure, and come playoff time, I don't think any Canuck goalie has done better than Kirk Mclean.

Even if Lou chokes, Schneider has a lot of desire to prove he's a #1 guy. So no worries in goaltending

Bure's flare is replaced by the Sedin's chemistry

Linden's leadership can never be replaced, but Kesler's intensity will give the rest something to feed from...Look how he played for team USA, now imagine a cup run...

When healthy, this years D has 8 NHL quality Dmen. No Norris candidates, but a top 6 that can match up against any line on any team.

Maholtra just went down with what looks like a serious eye injury. This is a HUGE loss. Manny is probably the best 3rd line center in the NHL right now. Face off wins and immediate puck control is a huge part of the Canucks success. PK is another crucial area the Canucks have been controlling.

Guess this means Hodgson is is going to get some real playing time.

[Gertner]

Heatley only getting 2 games is ridiculous.

[Jeritron]

Even the Boston Globe guy said the hit was dirty and deserved a suspension.

This is hilarious to me for reasons you probably wouldn't understand. Do you rememer the name?

[Kapoutman]

Nope. I'll see if I can find it.

[El Fangel]

NHL 3:16 "And it was said, Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Price Shall bring us Salvation in the form of champagne, drunk from the holy grail in the month of June. In the name of Sather, Clarkson and Holy Marek."

[Gertner]

Well playing Giguere worked out well. Doesn't help though when you can't score 1 fucking goal against Clemmensen

[Gertner]

Leafs up 4-1 in the second and chased Tim Thomas. That's what happens Boston when you mess with the best. AND OPTIMUS RRRRREIM!

[Blitz]

Bruins are mint.

[El Fangel]

Leafs up 4-1 in the second and chased Tim Thomas. That's what happens Boston when you mess with the best. AND OPTIMUS RRRRREIM!

Best? When you are inside the playoff bubble, come back and talk big.

[Gertner]

OPTIMUS REIM!!!!!!!!!!!

[Gertner]

haha well Matt Cooke is getting suspended again.

[Corndad]

Yea, even being a Pens fan, gotta say Cooke will be out another 5 games for that. Direct elbow to the head.

[Gertner]

If it were anybody else it'd get a two games suspension since Heatley somehow only got two, but since it's Cooke we are talking here he's looking at 5. He's just lucky that McDonaugh didn't get hurt bad.

[El Fangel]

Someone needs to Bertuzzi him for Christs sake.

[XCaliber]

Jamie Benn is the man. :y:

[El Fangel]

HABS

[KleptoKlown]

Cooke gets 10 games just so the NHL can throw Mario's rant in his face.

[El Fangel]

I swear, he ever ends up on Montreal, I'm burning my Habs stuff.

[El Fangel]

Subban.

[Gertner]

I'd kill to have Matt Cooke on Toronto.

[RP]

I'd kill not to have the Blackhawks lose anymore. Shit is getting tight.

[El Fangel]

I'd kill to have Matt Cooke on Toronto.

Yeah, they need another crappy piece of shit.

[Gertner]

Guys scores 30-35 points a year, stirs up trouble, is a good penalty killer and is physical. Why wouldn't I want a player like that. For the record, I'd take Sean Avery as well.

[El Fangel]

Avery is an asshole, but he is just that.

Cooke is a piece of shit who I would love nothing more then to see him break his neck after Savard nails him headfirst into the boards.

[El Fangel]

Also, stirring up trouble is not the same as ending someones career or blatantly elbowing someone in the head.

Of course Toronto fans would love something like that, it would provide entertainment in place of their utter shit team.

[Gertner]

If Cooke could be kinda pointed in the right direction he's very usefull.

I've never considered Avery dirty, but he's an ass. I would though love him in Toronto. He' excellent at throwing teams off his game.

[Lara Emily]

Cooke isn't crappy he's just nuts, he's an amazing penalty killer and can chip in some goals to boot.

[Gertner]

The Vancouver Canucks version of Cooke was really good. Finished his checks cleanly, penalty killed, scored some goals. There's a reason why he's getting paid what he does. The Pens organization seems to criticize everything else in the NHL but just throws Cooke back out there without consequence. Maybe the team needs to be more strict with Cooke because he was rarely an issue in Vancouver.

[Gertner]

Speaking of Cooke, he just got 10 games plus the first round of the playoffs. Wow, he got nailed bad.

[Gertner]

Manny Malholtra gone for the season and playoffs. HUGE loss for the Canucks. Manny is one of the best faceoff men in the NHL and an excellent penalty killer.

[Lara Emily]

Speaking of Cooke, he just got 10 games plus the first round of the playoffs. Wow, he got nailed bad.

I'm both pissed (being a pens fan) and pleased, it's he right length but, no one else (even another repeat offender) would get that kinda of punishment so it kinda pisses me off.

I wish Cooke's suspension was a sign of things to come for the league but the fact is only Matt Cooke will get those suspensions

The NHL made the right call for the wrong reasons here

[Emperor Smeat]

It might have been a combination of his previous history and the string of bad hits the last week or two leading to the NHL having an emergency meeting to reconsider adding more hits to the head as illegal. Cooke's biggest problem was this recent suspension came almost right after he finished serving another suspension so the NHL probably felt he didn't learn and gave him a harsher one.

With Avery, he was pissing off a lot of goalies and after a while the NHL stepped in to add the rule against "harassing" goalies while also hinting to Avery of if does it again there will be game suspensions.

[El Fangel]

Or to show off the fact they are actually finally doing something about dirty headshots.

[El Fangel]

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[Gertner]

I love how the NHL is "cracking down" on headshots, when what Cooke did to McDonaugh was an elbow to the head and has never been legal. It wasn't even a check. If it were a shoulder to the head I probably wouldn't have cared since last time I checked hitting was legal, but Cooke was just being a dick and stuck his elbow out. Next time he' gonna get half a year if he's lucky.

[Lara Emily]

Whooo James Neal

[El Fangel]

On a team depleted of top end talent, Cooke gets suspended for rest of regular season and first round of playoffs.

dumbass.

[JimmyMess]

Good call on the NHL to finally give Cooke a suspension of that magnitude.

He's a plug and a dirty player. Fuck him.

He's one of those cats I'd stick right in the mouth, or break his foot.

[Adder]

NHL is changing. It will begin to protect it's players. So far it seems random in the way they suspend or don't, but it is moving toward protecting careers.

Mario has to release Cooke. He's gone on record for stating his issues with the league, so now he'll have to step up and eat Cooke's contract. If he doesn't he comes off as a hypocrite.

[Gertner]

Mario is and will always be a big hypocrite.

[Hanso Amore]

Mario is a whining bitch, and his team is a bunch of scum bags that deserve all the rotten and cruel things in the world to happen to them and only them.

[Kapoutman]

I've met Mario. He's a gentleman.

[Hanso Amore]

He is Gentle with Cocks.

[El Fangel]

Jersey over Boston
Florida over New York
Washington Over Philly
Tampa over New York Islanders
Columbus over Colorado
St. Louis over Phoenix

Odds 186.31:1

Payout: 931.55

Come on.

[Kapoutman]

He is Gentle with Cocks.

I haven't asked him about that.

[parkmania]

The Pens should NOT get rid of Cooke. Does he need to tone it down? Absolutely. But in an age where every team has a goon, you can't be the only one without one if you want to compete. The fact that the NHL met last week and decided to do NOTHING about headshots proves that they are fucking neanderthals with the mentality of "U gotta be tuff to play 'ockey." The only possible way this will change is for someone to die on the ice from a shot to the head.

And it's complete and utter BS that Cooke gets 14-17 games when others are getting 0-2 for the EXACT same hit.

Smelly, if you think that they read the riot act to Cooke because the hit came so soon after his last suspension, you obviously learned nothing from Trevor Gillies. He was back less than 2 MINUTES from a prior suspension before doing something deserving of another suspension yet only got 1 game more than the previous.


I personally can't wait for the day that Colin Campbell gets removed from his position as the sole person responsible for handing out fines and suspensions. Yes, he isn't directly responsible for any discipline regarding the Bruins because his son plays for them, but the NHL front office "takes care of its own".

[Hanso Amore]

Not ever team has a goon. Goons have been gone since the end of the lockout. what are you smoking? Cooke isnt a GOON, hes a fucking filthy dirty agitator.

[Hanso Amore]

Myers shot deflected in by Gerbe against the Habs.

6'8 to 5'5

[Hanso Amore]

2nd tallest player in the NHL to the Shortest

[El Fangel]

Did it go in off his head?

[Hanso Amore]

He would need to jump for that to happen

[Hanso Amore]

GERBE STEPS ON THEIR NECK

Fucking little bastard out hustles everyone in the NHL

[KleptoKlown]

The Vancouver Canucks version of Cooke was really good. Finished his checks cleanly, penalty killed, scored some goals. There's a reason why he's getting paid what he does. The Pens organization seems to criticize everything else in the NHL but just throws Cooke back out there without consequence. Maybe the team needs to be more strict with Cooke because he was rarely an issue in Vancouver.

Bingo.

You hit the nail on the head. When Cooke was a Canuck, he was nicknamed "Cookie" He was an Esa Tikkanen/Claude Lemieux type player. He was well liked by the fans (although there are conflicting ideas on how much he was liked in the dressing room, due to his unwillingness to drop the glove after he started shit) He got in the face of the opposition, and was fun to watch. I don't remember any dirty or cheap plays out of him.

Then Alexandre Burrows came along and made Matt Cooke completely redundant. When Burrows first started, he was a 3rd line agitator...much like Cooke is...but also much better. So Cooke was shipped off.

For what it's worth...Cooke is still active in the Vancouver area. He runs some sort of foundation...I don't remember the details, all I remember is that he's more than just a hockey player...

He's gone downhill since. He didn't play long enough for the Caps to place any blame on them. He didn't turn into a douche bag until he joined the Pens.

So who's fault is it?

Cooke's fault.

And now he's paying the price...and a well deserved price at that.

[KleptoKlown]

Manny Malholtra gone for the season and playoffs. HUGE loss for the Canucks. Manny is one of the best faceoff men in the NHL and an excellent penalty killer.

Yeah...sucks

But the Canucks are still a great team capable of competing for the cup...

Manny would have been the Leafs #1 center.

Kesler and Henrik can pick up the slack, plus getting Higgins from Florida at the deadline means the Canucks can deal with this injury.

There is no doubt this team is going to miss Manny though...I just hope they can use it as a rally point like the Red Wings did when Konstantinov ended up in a wheel chair...

You see an eye injury, and you think Bryan Berard....

[Blitz]

Of course Toronto fans would love something like that, it would provide entertainment in place of their utter shit team.
You are comprehensively stupid.

[KleptoKlown]

I'm both pissed (being a pens fan) and pleased, it's he right length but, no one else (even another repeat offender) would get that kinda of punishment so it kinda pisses me off.

I wish Cooke's suspension was a sign of things to come for the league but the fact is only Matt Cooke will get those suspensions

The NHL made the right call for the wrong reasons here

So what you're saying is that you would have bitched no matter what the NHL did???

If this were Chris Simon, Marty McSorley, Dale Hunter, Bryan Marchment, Ulf Samulesson...etc....this would have been the same.

Repeat offenders repeating yet again, despite numerous warnings and previous small suspensions...

Cooke...being who he is, and what he's done...got exactly what he deserved.

[KleptoKlown]

NHL is changing. It will begin to protect it's players. So far it seems random in the way they suspend or don't, but it is moving toward protecting careers.

Mario has to release Cooke. He's gone on record for stating his issues with the league, so now he'll have to step up and eat Cooke's contract. If he doesn't he comes off as a hypocrite.

I don't know Cooke's contract...but guaranteed if that contract goes beyond the end of this year...then Pens buy him out...

He'll be a free agent, but he's still good enough that some other team will offer him a contract...then he will be collection pay cheques from 2 NHL teams.

He's Sean Avery minus the hot ex girlfriends...

[KleptoKlown]

Mario is and will always be a big hypocrite.

also (arguably) the best player to ever wear skates.

[KleptoKlown]

The Pens should NOT get rid of Cooke. Does he need to tone it down? Absolutely. But in an age where every team has a goon, you can't be the only one without one if you want to compete. The fact that the NHL met last week and decided to do NOTHING about headshots proves that they are fucking neanderthals with the mentality of "U gotta be tuff to play 'ockey." The only possible way this will change is for someone to die on the ice from a shot to the head.

And it's complete and utter BS that Cooke gets 14-17 games when others are getting 0-2 for the EXACT same hit.

Smelly, if you think that they read the riot act to Cooke because the hit came so soon after his last suspension, you obviously learned nothing from Trevor Gillies. He was back less than 2 MINUTES from a prior suspension before doing something deserving of another suspension yet only got 1 game more than the previous.


I personally can't wait for the day that Colin Campbell gets removed from his position as the sole person responsible for handing out fines and suspensions. Yes, he isn't directly responsible for any discipline regarding the Bruins because his son plays for them, but the NHL front office "takes care of its own".

Cooke is not a goon...he's an agitator.

Huge difference.

[El Fangel]

You are comprehensively stupid.

I would say you are moreso since I was making fun of Gertner who said he only watches to see Orr fight and it completely went over your head.

Leafs are either getting incredibly lucky or are getting better. Hard to tell which.

[Lara Emily]

So what you're saying is that you would have bitched no matter what the NHL did???

If this were Chris Simon, Marty McSorley, Dale Hunter, Bryan Marchment, Ulf Samulesson...etc....this would have been the same.

Repeat offenders repeating yet again, despite numerous warnings and previous small suspensions...

Cooke...being who he is, and what he's done...got exactly what he deserved.
Cooke got exactly what he deserved, when have I said the penalty is wrong. Oh wait I haven't. Once again the number is right the reason is wrong.


But let's talk Trevor Gilles then, only 9 and 10 game suspensions and those were in back to back games (and Gilles is a guy who has zero redeeming qualities, Cooke is at least a competent hockey player when he's not losing his mind). Again I'm saying this is the right decision but I'm also saying the NHL needs to be consistent and punish everyone severely. This was an easy one for the NHL, Cooke is public enemy #1, look at Heatley worse hit way more premeditation 2 games, Marchand similar hit 2 games, Chara breaks a guy's neck almost no games (and before anyone says not the same thing, it was interference and thus an illegal hit) Let's start setting the precedent high for these hits regardless who is doing them. It should be 5-10 games for this kind of thing plus more if you are a repeat guy like Cooke. Instead what we have is 2 games for the hit and upwards of 15 games for being Matt Cooke

[Lara Emily]

also (arguably) the best player to ever wear skates.

THIS!

I've always said if you want to talk solely about talent and skill I don't think it's that arguable that
Lemieux > Gretzky. Conversely if you ask who had the best career? Also a no brainer
Gretzky > Lemieux

[Gertner]

also (arguably) the best player to ever wear skates.

That's nice.

[Gertner]

OPTIMIUS RRRRRRREIM!

[Lara Emily]

As for accusations of hypocrisy towards the Pens, completely unwarranted, they have publicly spoken in support of the league's suspension of Matt Cooke, hell even Matt Cooke himself has publicly spoken in support of his suspension.

What does say Danny Heatley say about his 2 gamer


Heatley: "I felt I got him in the chest or shoulder. Obviously I think the two camera angles, weren't the best for that.”
“In that instance I was thinking, finish the check quick and get back in our own end. It's a one-goal game."
Heatley on the hearing: "The way you get to go through it, I think it's fair. You get to say your peace and that's that."
Heatley on discipline after the game: "The way the game went, I thought maybe something might happen to somebody."
Heatley on Ott: "I'm not going to get into a war of words with him. He’s had his fair share of suspensions in the league so for him, all of a sudden to have a halo on his head is kinda funny."
http://www.csnbayarea.com/03/17/11/Sharks-notes-Heatley-addresses-hit-on-Ot/landing_sharks.html?full_args=03/17/11/Sharks-notes-Heatley-addresses-hit-on-Ot/landing_sharks&blockID=442990&feedID=2798



And what does GM Doug Wilson say


"Nobody wants to see people getting hurt," Sharks general manager Doug Wilson said by phone Wednesday, before Heatley's suspension was announced. "But we have to find a way to keep players safe without changing the game. The reality is that we're not going to be able to take all injuries and concussions out of the game. It's a collision sport."


Translation: It was a hockey play, blah blah blah



http://www.prosportsdaily.com/articles/dany-heatley-handed-twogame-suspension-for-hit-on-stars-steve-ott-476190.html


Let's not forget all the absolutely embarrassing comments that came out of Long Island after goon show.
When I saw the suspensions on both sides and the fines, I was a little bit surprised it was just our club that got fined. You can ask the league about it. There’s nothing we can do about it but put it behind us and get ready for Buffalo.”
“I’m very proud that our team showed restraint. We came to play hockey and obviously, there’s a lot of things that happen in the course of a game. I’m proud of the way our team competed, and I’m going to support my guys.”


http://hockeyindependent.com/blog/igloodreams/31195/



"They're trying to eliminate checks that end up having an impact to the head," Snow said. "The hit that Trevor administered -- I think he had the right intentions. In fact, he ended up maybe being reverse-hit a little bit and falling to the ice. At that point I think he was probably getting off the ice in engagement mode. Things happen pretty fast and that's the way I saw that play unfold." Then there was Zenon Konopka and his BS


”You look at Trevor Gillies,” said Konopka. “He’s a first time offender. He hits a guy, throws a few punches, he gets a nine-game suspension. The guy’s got a wife, two kids and plays in the East Coast Hockey League and AHL most of his career and now he’s going to lose $35,000. And it’s not right. Obviously, the league has their job and not mine, but in here, we feel for him. It hurts not to have Trevor in lineup for nine games. It hurts me, personally, my buddy, out $35,000.” http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports/Konopka+picks+fight+with+Lemieux/4280360/story.html



So you have everyone (including me) absolutely speaking out against Cooke but yet look back at this situation, there was a lot of talk about how awesome it was that the Isles did this, that Mario Lemieux and the Pens are hypocrites and should shut up. Well now I ask you who is the hypocrite The Penguins who have spoken out against their own player as well as the rest of the league or the people who seem to think Matt Cooke is only bad guy in the league and anything done to the Pens is karma because of it.



Hell let's keep going look at Snow after Gilles got suspended for the second game in a row


“From the play, the way I saw it develop, it was a hit from behind on DiBenedetto by the Minnesota player,” Snow said prior to Saturday’s game against St. Louis, the first of 10 Gillies will miss due to the suspension. “Trevor comes over and tries to finish his check. First point of contact was shoulder-to-shoulder. It was not a hit from behind by any means.
“I think his left glove accidentally followed through and made contact to the head. But, by no means do I think he had the intention to hurt the Minnesota player. I think he was going in with good intentions to finish his check, and it’s unfortunate he did receive a 10-game suspension.
“I know Trevor as a person and I know there was no malicious intent when he was finishing the check.”


http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/05/isles-gm-garth-snow-addresses-gillies-suspension-still-doesnt-get-it/

Let's also not forget Chara's own BS about how the hit was somewhat Pacioretty's fault

It's GMs like these alongside Bettman, Campbell and co that are turning the NHL into a bush league.

[Gertner]

Yes, after Cooke 10000th suspension RAY SHERO spoke out. Lemieux bitches about everything, yet keeps Cooke in the organization. The only people who don't think Lemieux is a hypocrite are Pens fans.

[El Fangel]

Into?

[Gertner]

Friggen Grabovski is 2 goals away from 30. And to think, he was my least favourite player on the Leafs to start the year. I'm astounded at how much improvement he's made, even on face offs and I didn't think I'd ever see that from him.

[Gertner]

This season is frustrating. What would have been had Reimer been called up earlier. Probably a shot at the Calder and the Leafs making the playoffs. The kid has been outstanding.

[Hanso Amore]

So Klepto you are saying that being skilled as a player means its OK to be a Whining Hypocrite as an owner. No one questioned Marios skill. We question his ability to complain about the Islanders debacle and then keep putting Matt Cooke (the Human Head Shot Machine) on the ice.

[Hanso Amore]

Lara,

I dont think the Gilles matter should be brushed off as BACK TO BACK GAMES

Repeat Offenders are repeat offenders. They nailed the Gilles Suspension and the COoke Suspension.

Heatley and CHara - they fucking blew it.

[Skippord]

woooo avs!

TWO WINS IN A ROW!!!

[Lara Emily]

Lara,

I dont think the Gilles matter should be brushed off as BACK TO BACK GAMES

Repeat Offenders are repeat offenders. They nailed the Gilles Suspension and the COoke Suspension.

Heatley and CHara - they fucking blew it.

Gilles needed more for his second one, like 15-20, he literally tried to injure someone in back to back games, that says something. Agreed on the rest

[Gertner]

woooo avs!

TWO WINS IN A ROW!!!

Wait until they face the Transformer on Thursday. OPTIMUS REIM!!!

[El Fangel]

Optimus Reim, Talent in Disguise!

[El Fangel]

Seriously though. Even as a Habs fan, I have to say it is nice to see the Leafs looking like an NHL team again.

They need a Sundin for Kessel and a power-forward on the LW (Burrows or someone of the sort) and they would have a great line.

Thing is, they still need a Sundin and Burrows.

[Gertner]

Optimus Reim, Talent in Disguise!

Reimer is the real deal. I havent sen a Leaf goaltender play that well positionally in years. Not spectacular, but he's always in position.

[El Fangel]

His disguise is obviously the jersey.

[Lara Emily]

Classy Organization the Bruins are

Mark Recchi accuses the Canadiens of embellishing Pacioretty's injury just to get Chara suspended.

His proof? Pacioetrry had the audacity to see a movie 6 days after the hit, so clearly they are dirty lying liars.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=359271

[Gertner]

The Habs are bitches. It wouldn't surprise me.

[El Fangel]

Bitches be working all summer.

[Gertner]

Bitches are still bitches. Like who's fanbase actually call the cops? Cmon.

[Kapoutman]

For the record, I think that people who called the cops on that are retards.

But I still think he should have been suspended.

[El Fangel]

Yeah, fans who live in Montreal are crazy.

[KleptoKlown]

Cooke got exactly what he deserved, when have I said the penalty is wrong. Oh wait I haven't. Once again the number is right the reason is wrong.


But let's talk Trevor Gilles then, only 9 and 10 game suspensions and those were in back to back games (and Gilles is a guy who has zero redeeming qualities, Cooke is at least a competent hockey player when he's not losing his mind). Again I'm saying this is the right decision but I'm also saying the NHL needs to be consistent and punish everyone severely. This was an easy one for the NHL, Cooke is public enemy #1, look at Heatley worse hit way more premeditation 2 games, Marchand similar hit 2 games, Chara breaks a guy's neck almost no games (and before anyone says not the same thing, it was interference and thus an illegal hit) Let's start setting the precedent high for these hits regardless who is doing them. It should be 5-10 games for this kind of thing plus more if you are a repeat guy like Cooke. Instead what we have is 2 games for the hit and upwards of 15 games for being Matt Cooke

ONLY 9 and 10 game suspensions? Those are huge suspensions. That's like 20% of the season suspended. If the NHL started handing out suspensions like you're wanting, the NHLPA will have a shit. No one needs those 2 groups bitching at each other again.

I do agree that hits like Heatly's should punished more severely than the typical 2 game slap on the wrist. Larger fines is a place to start, hit these guys in the wallet.

Lumping in Chara with Cooke and Gillies is beyond ridiculous... an illegal hit yes, but that's a 2 minute minor anywhere else on the ice.

Cooke didn't get 14-17 games for "being Matt Cooke" he got what he got because of his past. Anyone else with that history gets the same suspension.

[KleptoKlown]

THIS!

I've always said if you want to talk solely about talent and skill I don't think it's that arguable that
Lemieux > Gretzky. Conversely if you ask who had the best career? Also a no brainer
Gretzky > Lemieux

If it were my team I'd take 66 over 99 every time in every situation.

[KleptoKlown]

So Klepto you are saying that being skilled as a player means its OK to be a Whining Hypocrite as an owner. No one questioned Marios skill. We question his ability to complain about the Islanders debacle and then keep putting Matt Cooke (the Human Head Shot Machine) on the ice.

Im saying people should listen to probably the best player of all time.

You don't have to agree with him, but at least hear him out.

When he was playing, it was clutch and grab that he "whinned" about, and now as an owner, it's head shots. Both those things make the game less entertaining. Mario was one of the most entertaining guys to watch...I think he knows a thing or two about what should and shouldn't be in the game...

I am assuming Cooke will be released/bought out at the end of the year...If he's not, then what you're saying will hold some merit. Until then, I'll continue to look at Mario as someone who knows best...knows a hell of a lot more than me or you...about whats best for the game.

[KleptoKlown]

Lara,

I dont think the Gilles matter should be brushed off as BACK TO BACK GAMES

Repeat Offenders are repeat offenders. They nailed the Gilles Suspension and the COoke Suspension.

Heatley and CHara - they fucking blew it.

Heatley: yes - he should have got more than a wrist slap.

Chara: no

Chara should have got 1-2 games max. That's hardly "fucking blew it." Any other spot on the ice, its a 2 minute minor. Whoever designed the glass structure is more at fault than Chara.

Anyone comparing Chara to Cooke or Gillies should start watching Baseball...or lawn bowling.

[KleptoKlown]

Classy Organization the Bruins are

Mark Recchi accuses the Canadiens of embellishing Pacioretty's injury just to get Chara suspended.

His proof? Pacioetrry had the audacity to see a movie 6 days after the hit, so clearly they are dirty lying liars.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=359271

Recchi is anything but classless. Hasn't he won a Lady Byng or 2? I know he's been at least nominated. This is playoff style hockey in the regular season. You talk shit about your opponents, there wives, and there mothers. Add the fact its the Habs and Bruins, and this is just Recchi stirring the pot like the wise old man he is. Don't get your panties in a knot and act like the sky is falling every time someone says something you don't like.

On a side note...what is that kid Pacioretty doing watching movies 6 days after a concussion? You're suppose to be sensitive to light and what not. Habs are gearing up for a playoff drive. The last thing this kid should be doing is goofing around.

[KleptoKlown]

This season is frustrating. What would have been had Reimer been called up earlier. Probably a shot at the Calder and the Leafs making the playoffs. The kid has been outstanding.

Schneider > Reimer

I love seeing Leafs fans get excited and filled with hope, because the rest of us know its inevitably going to turn out bad.

You have your moments, i'll give you that. Bending Cowgary over last year in the Phanuef/Aulie trade for example. Absolutely raped the Flames...but then you have trades like Kessel or signings like Finger or Komisarik...

Leafs and Panthers are the only 2 teams not to make the playoffs since the lockout...that's pretty pitiful company to keep.

[Gertner]

Let's see how Schneider would have fared with Lebda, Komisarek and that offence in front of him. Reimer has been amazing.

[KleptoKlown]

Schneider has been equally amazing, and he's been developed properly.

You never know with goalies though...Byron Dafoe, Jim Carrey, Kevin Weekes all had early success and became duds.

[Fireball742]

Wow, you guys got a nice active thread for NHL.

Canucks fan here. I see KleptoKlown is as well :)

[KleptoKlown]

Scratch that comment about playoff style hockey....its a friggin route in Boston tonight. So much for "Win it for Max" he must be hated in the dressing room :lol:

[KleptoKlown]

Wow, you guys got a nice active thread for NHL.

Canucks fan here. I see KleptoKlown is as well :)

Pretty easy team to cheer for right now...and probably the years to come.

Welcome to the forums.

[Emperor Smeat]

:D Bruins 7-0 vs Canadiens.

More happy that the Bruins kept on attacking even after taking the early lead and didn't start blowing the lead or slacked off on the defense like the last meeting and previous couple of games.

The 3 on 5 short handed goal had to be the worst goal given away by Montreal tonight.

[Gertner]

That's what happens when a heartless team tries to step it up.

[El Fangel]

Umm....hmmmm....errrrr.....I have nothing to say....

[El Fangel]

Hiller is looking...good...

6 saves on 9 shots.

[KleptoKlown]

Ducks could be a scary darkhorse team in the playoffs...if Hiller plays like he can.

Dan Ellis/Ray Emery = 1st round loss...no matter who plays in front of you. Ellis has been playing good since being traded from TB, but still, he's not going to win a 7 game series.

[KleptoKlown]

Carey Price allowed five goals on 33 shots before he was replaced with 15:31 left following Adam McQuaid's goal that made it 5-0. Price is 2-5 in his last seven starts, allowing 21 goals in his five losses

ouch....talk about a cold streak at close to the worst possible time.

Habs are a better team than this. This loss is either going to motivate them...or kill whatever is left of their spirit.

[Gertner]

O......O.......O........ OPTIMUS RRRRRRRRRRREIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MVP]

ouch....talk about a cold streak at close to the worst possible time.

Habs are a better team than this. This loss is either going to motivate them...or kill whatever is left of their spirit.

I hope it kills it cause even though the B's blew them out last night, I still don't want them to face the Habs in the first round of the playoffs.

[KleptoKlown]

I hope it kills it cause even though the B's blew them out last night, I still don't want them to face the Habs in the first round of the playoffs.

Even though a lot of my all time favorite players were Bruins. I'd cheer for the Habs in that series. Been a long time since Canada has won a cup...bet some posters on here were not even born yet...Canucks are the best chance in a long time I think, but still, it looks like Montreal is going to be the only other Canadian team.

[KleptoKlown]

Was looking at old stats. This is the end of the 1992-93 season.

Player Team GP G A PTS
Mario Lemieux Pittsburgh 60 69 91 160
Pat LaFontaine Buffalo 84 53 95 148
Adam Oates Boston 84 45 97 142
Steve Yzerman Detroit 84 58 79 137
Teemu Selanne Winnipeg 84 76 56 132
Pierre Turgeon NY Islandrs 83 58 74 132
Alexa Mogilny Buffalo 77 76 51 127
Doug Gilmour Toronto 83 32 95 127
L Robitaille Los Angeles 84 63 62 125
M Recchi Philadelphia 84 53 70 123


Insane numbers. Recchi finishing 10th overall has like 18 points more than D Sedin. Sedin is going to get a few more points obviously, but no where near Lemieux's 160 points...in 60 games....Whatever happened to that hockey?

[Lara Emily]

If it were my team I'd take 66 over 99 every time in every situation.

I knew there was a reason I liked you


PS this is not the only reason :p

[Lara Emily]

Was looking at old stats. This is the end of the 1992-93 season.

Player Team GP G A PTS
Mario Lemieux Pittsburgh 60 69 91 160
Pat LaFontaine Buffalo 84 53 95 148
Adam Oates Boston 84 45 97 142
Steve Yzerman Detroit 84 58 79 137
Teemu Selanne Winnipeg 84 76 56 132
Pierre Turgeon NY Islandrs 83 58 74 132
Alexa Mogilny Buffalo 77 76 51 127
Doug Gilmour Toronto 83 32 95 127
L Robitaille Los Angeles 84 63 62 125
M Recchi Philadelphia 84 53 70 123


Insane numbers. Recchi finishing 10th overall has like 18 points more than D Sedin. Sedin is going to get a few more points obviously, but no where near Lemieux's 160 points...in 60 games....Whatever happened to that hockey?


Let's not forget that's the year Lemieux got cancer. Hence why he only played 60 games, when he came back he was 12 points behind Lafontaine, and look how he finished fucking 12 points ahead. Fact is if Lenieux hadn't had the health problems he had, he'd be the all time scoring leader, and we'd be talking about wondering if anyone can ever surpass Lemieux's records. The man is the single most skilled NHL player in history

You want to talk about heart: that year Lemeiux underwent radiation therapy for his cancer, on the last day of his radiation treatment he got his lat treatment, hopped a plane to Philadelphia and scored a goal and recorded an assist. It was such an epic feat even the world's biggest assholes (Flyers fan) gave him a standing ovation after the game. That's right the same city that cheers when an opposing team's player gets hurt, throws batteries at players and has even booed Santa Clause fucking cheered their Cross-state arch rival's return to the ice.

[Gertner]

Gretzky > Lemieux. You two are delusional.

[KleptoKlown]

Fuck Santa

[Lara Emily]

Gretzky had the great career, Lemieux had the greater pure talent

[Gertner]

In short, Gretzky was the better player any way you slice it.

[KleptoKlown]

Gretzky > Lemieux. You two are delusional.

Oh God, a Leafs fan called me delusional...where's that cyanide pill...