Tables, Ladders, & Podcast - Current episode: #74 (October 22, 2014)

[Heisenberg]

WOO!! DANIEL BRYAN IS CHAMP!!

HHH got his badass entrance

Hello friends

[Heisenberg]

What the hell are y'all drinking?

[Poit]

What the hell are y'all drinking?

I have no idea what I'm drinking.

[Innovator]

No worries Narc, there is a thing called DVR

[Savio]

Axel beat HHH twice though.

[Savio]

Ask Afterlife when Ryback is going to get pushed to the main event again.

[Poit]

Ask Afterlife when Ryback is going to get pushed to the main event again.

No. We want to watch Raw at some point tonight.

[Razzamajazz]

remember when raven and someone else broke one of the villanos' neck with that same move?

[Nark Order]

Thanks for watching dudes. Drunk. The big live event is tomorrow. We were filming with other means in HD so that'll be up in the next week.

[Savio]

Please everyone be drunk on the next cast.

[Nowhere Man]

What the hell are y'all drinking?

Bacardi Zombie. Eez deleecious

[Nark Order]

I was flying on Jaeger. Then Whiskey sours towards the end.

[owenbrown]

I am pissed off I missed this live

[Nark Order]

We should've given more notice. Everyone tune in tomorrow. I'll give details on the time. Early tomorrow.

[owenbrown]

hopefully after 3 PM Central

[Innovator]

I was thoroughly surprised Narc was able to sit up straight at the end

[Heisenberg]

Bacardi Zombie. Eez deleecious

Never had, but sounds pretty choice

I was flying on Jaeger. Then Whiskey sours towards the end.

JAGER FLOWS THROUGH THESE VEINS, WHISKEY ALSO, AND RUM.

I don't drink much these days, but when I do, I throw down and pay the price the next day. I'm trying to kill the notion that all combat vets come back and live on the bottle. It's hard given my environment, but I haven't sworn it off altogether. I have a drink named after me, The Ox Bomb- a splash or shotglass of Red Bull, and a drink glass 3/4-almost full of Jager. Toss the red bull in for confusion and shoot it.

[Poit]

hopefully after 3 PM Central

Ok, then it shall be at 3:30 central.

[Poit]

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Covering NXT, Impact, & Raw. For our Wrestlemania coverage, see our supplemental episode (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLApmPuyhHA&feature=share).

Starring: Narcissus, Jabba, Nowhere Man, Poit, and Afterlife.

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[XL]

What time is that in English?

[Poit]

Two hours from now.

[loopydate]

Legitimately excited for this. Have a good show, boys.

[Nark Order]

5 minutes. We will be live soon though.

[Poit]

WE ARE LIVE

[Innovator]

This is the 4th image on google for goat slap:

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[owenbrown]

I am hoping for more video style TLP going forward :y:

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: the Breeze faces

[Lock Jaw]

Too bad I am leaving for work

[Poit]

Watch us at work.

[Poit]

Innovator, I'm wearing my most tattered socks, just for you.

[Nark Order]

Hey inno

[owenbrown]

this is so great

[Poit]

My sobriety is fading.

[Innovator]

Hey inno

Howyadoing #realestguyintheroom #sawft

[Innovator]

Poit, pinky out when drinking from a stemmed glass

[Poit]

There you go Inno.

[owenbrown]

My sobriety is fading.


fading or already faded?

[owenbrown]

I was gonna say with Google Plus or ooVoo

[Poit]

Gonna give you all my love, Owen
My sobriety is fading fast
Been saving it all for you
'Cause only TPWW can last

[owenbrown]

That was so awkward just now with Narc and Afterlife

[Seth82]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g272/destinedtofail13/GOATSLAP.jpg

[Poit]

I'm the one directing the podcast, and I'm four drinks in. Strap in, kids.

[Poit]

Holy crap, I am drunk

[Poit]

I can't feel my toes.

[owenbrown]

If someone posts a summary of Warrior's Hall of Fame speech online in it's entirety, I think their keyboard would likely catch fire from typing so much. Even if it was Noid typing it.

[XL]

Just got back from watching Winter Soldier. What's UP?

[Poit]

My inebriety is up.

[Innovator]

Dont worry Narc no one remembers Heidenreich, except for Cole

[Innovator]

I really feel like Jabba needs a sweatband

[Innovator]

Cmon NM, BUSAIKU KNEE TO AFTERLIFE

[Swiss Ultimate]

Where's Xero you bastards?

[Swiss Ultimate]

Sammy, let's see some nipples. All of you for that matter.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Why did so many people doubt me when I said the WWE would end the streak? If you've already talked about the streak, feel free to ignore this question.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Usos are the mousers

[Swiss Ultimate]

Mousers are cute, just like the Usos.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Are you on Tinder?

[Poit]

Are you on Tinder?

Narc is.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Good show, guys.

[owenbrown]

@Jabba, Narc, Poit, Afterlife, & Nowhere Man http://oovoo.com it's basically free video chat with up to 12 friends

[owenbrown]

that was hilarious

[Poit]

I don't think I can get up right now. I'm so drunk.

[Swiss Ultimate]

You didn't seem drunk.

[Poit]

Because I didn't try standing.

[Nowhere Man]

Special thanks to the Drink-O-Dile for providing our delicious refreshments. And to Inno, for being that sexy paragon of manliness that he is.

[Poit]

I prefer "drunkasaurus".

[Poit]

Ooh, how about "drunkadactyl"?

[Innovator]

I missed the shoutout the first go around. Love you guys.

[Afterlife]

What is the deal with these threads not being stickied anymore?

[Afterlife]

Seriously. Sticky these things, you bastards.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

because they don't care about it anymore?

[owenbrown]

What is the deal with these threads not being stickied anymore?

because I am not a super moderator?

[Tazz Dan]

What is the deal with these threads not being stickied anymore?

There's just LOTS of threads now. Could it all be put in one, and just have the title updated each week?

[Tazz Dan]

And like I said to Poit in another thread, I love you guys, but they're not really THAT stick-worthy.

[Poit]

Having one TLP thread should work.

[Lock Jaw]

I like the separate threads. I will sticky them using my Anonymous Global Moderator powers.

[Poit]

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Starring: Narcissus, Jabba, Nowhere Man, Afterlife, & Poit.

Current episode: #68 (September 10, 2014) (http://tablesladderspodcast.podbean.com/e/tables-ladders-podcast-68-091014/)

Covering NXT, Impact, Main Event, Smackdown, and Raw.

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Question Of The Week:

You have infiltrated a wrestling locker room. While rummaging through the wrestlers' belongings, whose bag is it, and what kind of cream do you find in there?

[Poit]

Episode #47 (April 15, 2014) (http://tablesladderspodcast.podbean.com/2014/04/15/tables-ladders-podcast-47-041514/)

Covering NXT, Impact, and Raw. Plus light dashes of Smackdown & Main Event. We also discuss the Scooby Doo Wrestlemania Mystery DVD.

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Question Of The Week:

Which young up and comer would you add to a new Evolution, and why?

We've decided to go with Tazz Dan's suggestion of having a single TLP thread that we update each week.

[Tazz Dan]

Good idea. Did you want me to merge the threads? I can do that.

[Poit]

You mean merge all 40+ threads into one?

[Tazz Dan]

Yep.

[Lock Jaw]

BOOOOOOOOOOOO We want multiple threads!

[XL]

Question of the week:

I'll be the first to say Cody Rhodes. He fits in terms of the look. He has history as part if a group with Orton. He has history with The Authority that would make his turn on Goldust all the more "shocking".

I really like Cody and it seems a lot of others do. He just needs that one thing to launch him from being "one of those guys that's been middling around for almost a decade". He's been on the cusp previously (feud with Orton, stuff with The Authority) but they've never gone "all in" with him.

[Innovator]

I think it should be Sheamus. The guy has nothing going on for him except for feuding with Christian between concussions. He'd be the new muscle of the group as he's more intimidating than a 265 lbs 44-50 year old who dresses like an emo teenager. It'd give him a legitimate reason to be an asshole instead of just being one, but cheer for him because he smiles.

[James Steele]

Since XL covered Cody Rhodes perfectly, I'll go with Kofi Kingston. They can talk about his initial success, but how he has become a cartoon superhero trying to make all the people happy. A man who can steal the show due to his pure athleticism and his passion...yet a man who has yet to evolve...until now. Kofi Kingston joins Evolution and is in a role like that of Seth Rollins in The Shield. Kofi quits all the jumping and such, but is still high energy and high impact. Slowly as the year progresses, he starts doing those big moves that get big pops. He starts smiling at the big reactions. At Survivor Series, he ends up playing to the crowd and getting fired up due to their positive response, but it ends up costing them the match. He gets the hell beaten out of him for it the next night on RAW. They continue to build the tension through the Royal Rumble when they demand that Kofi eliminate himself to give Randy/Batista the win. Kofi finally stands up for himself and fights back. He does his normal 'HOLY SHIT, HOW DID HE KEEP FROM BEING ELIMINATED!!!" spot and does a huge springboard on the posing/taunting Orton/Batista and Kofi goes on a huge roll of momentum. Kofi takes a huge risk and does a diving cross body or something to eliminate the opponent hanging onto the ropes, but he hangs on like a crazy monkey in the ropes to win the 2015 Royal Rumble and go on to headline WrestleMania XXXI for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship.

You could do that same storyline with Cody, but less flips.

[James Steele]

Since XL covered Cody Rhodes perfectly, I'll go with Kofi Kingston. They can talk about his initial success, but how he has become a cartoon superhero trying to make all the people happy. A man who can steal the show due to his pure athleticism and his passion...yet a man who has yet to evolve...until now. Kofi Kingston joins Evolution and is in a role like that of Seth Rollins in The Shield. Kofi quits all the jumping and such, but is still high energy and high impact. Slowly as the year progresses, he starts doing those big moves that get big pops. He starts smiling at the big reactions. At Survivor Series, he ends up playing to the crowd and getting fired up due to their positive response, but it ends up costing them the match. He gets the hell beaten out of him for it the next night on RAW. They continue to build the tension through the Royal Rumble when they demand that Kofi eliminate himself to give Randy/Batista the win. Kofi finally stands up for himself and fights back. He does his normal 'HOLY SHIT, HOW DID HE KEEP FROM BEING ELIMINATED!!!" spot and does a huge springboard on the posing/taunting Orton/Batista and Kofi goes on a huge roll of momentum. Kofi takes a huge risk and does a diving cross body or something to eliminate the opponent hanging onto the ropes, but he hangs on like a crazy monkey in the ropes to win the 2015 Royal Rumble and go on to headline WrestleMania XXXI for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship.

You could do that same storyline with Cody, but less flips.

[FourFifty]

Bo Dallas
Triple H has said that NXT is the future of WWE. Bo Dallas is there, his promos airing, touring with the main roster, he's ready. I BOlieve he's ready!
and from a personal standpoint he was my pick in survivor so I don't want to see him hit 3 weeks.

[Emperor Smeat]

Ambrose and Rollins.

It would follow the original group's "future" guys being two people (Orton, Batista) and let the Shield breakup expand into a bigger feud than just something to likely benefit only Reigns.

Bryan could then recruit Reigns and form his own anti-Evolution group with a few other guys who could also benefit from doing something really meaningful.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Cody Rhodes and Kofi Kingston are both great picks. I'd be for Bo Dallas too. It'd be a way to push him into the spotlight. I'm a little worried that his Bolieve stuff may not connect as well as the WWE would like on its own. But with Evolution? It could be gold.

For some reason, I can't help but wonder about the possibility of a heel Big E too. If the WWE are certain they want to push him, that is.

[XL]

Had another thought: if they wanted to move him away from comedy midcard gimmick territory, y'know who'd be a great pick...

Johnny Curtis.

[Lock Jaw]

Triple H did say he might be an A level player....

[Mr. Nerfect]

"The A+ Player" Johnny Curtis would be pretty tremendous. Dirty Curty would be back.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Fandango needs to evolve, since the novelty is gone from the gimmick. He doesn't need to lose all elements of it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They can bring up how Curtis and Triple H were both trained by Killer Kowalski.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Curtis can win the US Title from Dean Ambrose and hold it forever.

[Lock Jaw]

Johnny Curtis can never come back unless Curtis Axel goes away, though. Can't have more than one "Curtis", it would confuse the WWE Universe.

[Poit]

Episode #48 (April 22, 2014) (http://tablesladderspodcast.podbean.com/2014/04/22/tables-ladders-podcast-48-042214/)

Covering NXT, Impact, and Raw, plus light dashes of Smackdown & Main Event.

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Question Of The Week:

Which three wrestlers would you combine into a legendary chimera, and which body parts would the resulting beast inherit from those wrestlers?

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[Poit]

Also, Tazz Dan, go ahead and merge the previous threads into this one. Thanks! :heart:

[Poit]

Also also, Hornswoggle, El Torito, and Eva Marie would make a horrifying chimera.

[XL]

The reason Summer Rae isn't involved with the whole ongoing Fandango/Layla/Santino/Emma thing is that she's away filming for The Marine 4 with The Miz.

[XL]

"You'll like it better when TNA do it next month".

ZING!

[Afterlife]

TNA will probably do it better.

[Nark Order]

The reason Summer Rae isn't involved with the whole ongoing Fandango/Layla/Santino/Emma thing is that she's away filming for The Marine 4 with The Miz.

Jesus. Really? My god. Well, good for her.

[FourFifty]

Mick Foley's heart and love in his prime, Daniel Bryan's overness the night after WrestleMania XXX, Test's size.

[James Steele]

Question Of The Week:

Which three wrestlers would you combine into a legendary chimera, and which body parts would the resulting beast inherit from those wrestlers?

Triple H, Shawn Michaels, and Bob Holly

Triple H's massive and entertaining back along with his brilliant mind for the business, Shawn Michaels heart and soul, and Bob Holly's arms and legs (sweet dropkick and arms that carried an old school scale to the ring every night).

[Innovator]

Tremendous episode this week, 3 on the Innovator 5 star rating.

[Innovator]

My chimera is Great Khali, Rey Mysterio, and Steve Austin.

Amazing flyer, technically sound, can brawl, huge size, can be dismantled by a gentle breeze to the knees.

[loopydate]

It would have to have the indestructible skull of an old-school Samoan. We'll go with Afa for that.

The legs of Kofi Kingston, able to jump higher than should be humanly possible.

And the torso of Brock Lesnar (who conquered The Streak) because nothing tops off this brutal high-flying, headbutting monster better than a penis sword.

[James Steele]

http://cache.diva-dirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/noh8wwe1.jpg?9fecb3

[Innovator]

That reminds me of the photoshops where they put clothes on top of porn

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

Covering NXT, Impact, Sacrifice, and Raw. Plus light dashes of Smackdown & Main Event.

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Question Of The Week:

Give us your best gimmick match ideas for midgets.

Question Of The Week For James Steele:

What is Triple H's worst feature?

[Innovator]

Innovator's 5 Star rating for this episode was off the charts!

[Heisenberg]

Is it safe and fair to HHH this week?? Guy who put over Daniel Bryan??

[Tazz Dan]

Also, Tazz Dan, go ahead and merge the previous threads into this one. Thanks! :heart:

Will do so in the next few days :kiss:

[Emperor Smeat]

Question Of The Week: Give us your best gimmick match ideas for midgets.

Dink the Clown memorial TLM match. Tables, Ladders, & Minis match with the prize being a mini golden Dink the clown statue hanging in the air.

[Afterlife]

Pretty sure Dink is still alive.

[James Steele]

Question Of The Week:

Give us your best gimmick match ideas for midgets.

Modified kennel from hell.

Use chihuahuas and pugs around the ringside area.

Question Of The Week For James Steele:

What is Triple H's worst feature?

2 things that "really grind my gears" so to speak:

1) His overall lack of Indian Deathlock useage throughout his tenure in WWE. He teased us in 2003 some with it, but I need to see that move every week.

2) He sounds like a nervous manchild when he makes public speeches/press conferences as Paul Levesque on behalf of WWE as an executive. For the best epic promo man of the late 20th and early 21st century, he should speak with far more confidence. Of course, I could only imagine the pressure and stress he puts on himself on top of what the company puts on him when making these speeches. Like Stephanie McMahon said on the awe-inspiring "Triple H: Thy Kingdom Come" DVD set, "If you can control tens of thousands in arenas and millions watching at home, you can control a board room or press room full of jackasses who don't have half the brain or an 1/8th of the massive cock you have."

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

Covering NXT, Impact, Extreme Rules, and Raw. Plus light dashes of Smackdown & Main Event.

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Question Of The Week:

In the style of Slam City, pick real world jobs for each of the TLP hosts, that would not interfere with their podcasting duties.

[Innovator]

I just doubled over in laughter in the first 4 minutes of the show

[FourFifty]

Slam City TLP style... hmmm...

Poit- A male model who takes selfies all the time.
Narc- The heir to a major wrestling company who is also a good wrestler.
Nowhere Man- A rough neck Texan who drinks beer, plays poker, beats people up for money.
Afterlife- A crooked cop.
Jabba- A millionaire who manages them all for some reason.

.........Wait, I just described my ideal heel fantasy team for Survivor Series. Tyler Breeze, Shane McMahon, Bradshaw, The Big Bossman, with The Million Dollar Man at ringside.

[Poit]

Poit- A male model who takes selfies all the time.

http://i.imgur.com/ks5A1gP.jpg

[Innovator]

Question Of The Week:

In the style of Slam City, pick real world jobs for each of the TLP hosts, that would not interfere with their podcasting duties.
[/QUOTE]

Narcy Narc - Play By Play announcer for the lingerie football league

Jabba - Guy who plays rich man at parties

Poit - Motivational speaker

Nowhere Man - Newest spin off of Catfish. Nowhere Man travels the country confronting people about bad movie/comic reviews online and attacks them and beats them with a hardcover copy of Watchmen.

Afterlife - Sheetz bathroom attendant

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

Covering NXT, Impact, and Raw. Plus light dashes of Smackdown & Main Event.

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Question Of The Week:

Create a three man stable to "run shit" from the current WWE/NXT roster. (Or TNA if you wish).

[loopydate]

...respect the law and order.

[Emperor Smeat]

Question Of The Week:

Create a three man stable to "run shit" from the current WWE/NXT roster. (Or TNA if you wish).


Enzo Amore, Brock Lesnar, and Mark Henry with Lana as the manager.

[Poit]

Would you mind explaining that one?

[Emperor Smeat]

Lesnar and Henry as the muscle, Lana as the "architect" of the group's crushing motivations, and Enzo as the loveable goofball calling everyone "SAWFT."

Couldn't think of a good name for the group though.

[XL]

The Empire

William Regal, Wade Barrett and Drew McIntyre.

Regal would bring the group together and act as it's manager but would also work as a tag team partner with Drew if you wanted to put the tag straps on them. Barrett would be the guy breaking into the main event/going for the World Title.

Could end up with Barrett breaking away as a heel, feuding with the Valiant Villain in one last hurrah for Regal or have Regal turn the group on Barrett and bring in someone to replace him (Mason Ryan would have been a good move or throw money at Magnus to jump ship).

[XL]

Always liked the idea of a Miz, Riley & Swagger team. Play them off as sort of High School jocks/bullies. But they wouldn't be runnng roughshod over the company, more making a sizeable splash in the midcard.

[MrSmokeydogg7]

Sorry I can't attend.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

You can't attend what?

[MrSmokeydogg7]

Isn't this the thread for the podcast RoXeR invited me to?

[Innovator]

Randy Orton, Alberto Del Rio, and Kofi Kingston.

Known as the Coolers.

Whenever a crowd is getting too excited, that's when they strike.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

Isn't this the thread for the podcast RoXeR invited me to?
No.

[MrSmokeydogg7]

awkward

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

I think he wants you to be on the Cringecast, which is the casual forum podcast.

[XL]

No new show this week?

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

We had to delay it until Thursday.

[poopfromweiner dude]

Put MrSmokeydogg7 on

His voice needs to be heard

[Poit]

Covering NXT, Impact, and Raw. Plus light dashes of Smackdown & Main Event.

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Question Of The Week:

If the Wyatts decided to add a female to their cast to play Sister Abigail, who would you use and how would you do it?

[James Steele]

Pyscho bi-sexual Mickie James or Triple H hiding a flame thrower in his robe while dressed as Goldust circa 1998.

[Lock Jaw]

Abigail Jeanette Lee. She was "down and out", living in cars and on the streets with her family... when she met a boy named Bray... and hatched a plan to change the world....

Cool King would riot.

[Innovator]

Nikki Bella.

Bray follows her around trying to woo her, while completely ignoring Brie. It turns out Sister Abigail was a stripper down in the Bayou with huge fake cans who was dating an overgrown manchild.

[Innovator]

Now, I have a question for you guys:

Marry Fuck Kill: Evolution

[Swiss Ultimate]

Why can't Bryan just be on shows injured and not wrestle?

[Swiss Ultimate]

Is it just me or are those Party Time promos really insanely tiresome?

[FourFifty]

So we need someone to "play" Sister Abigail...

Sister Abigail, according to the current canon, is old enough to have taught Bray Wyatt from a young age (as per his promo about Sister Abigail). So she should be at least 20 years older than Bray Wyatt. She also needs to know a thing or two about warfare, as she taught him from a young age to strike first. This is the perfect role for a wrestler. We need someone old enough to be an influential adult in Bray's childhood, preferably someone who the casual fans won't recognize, and as this is the WWE someone who can take a bump and possibly work a match. She would be someone wise, someone to cut promos, and a "human shield" when need be. She would be to Bray what Harper and Rowan are to Bray. That figurehead who is the paragon of everything they NEED to be. The leader of the leader.
Alundra Blayze

[Poit]

Oh yeah, updating the thread, that's a thing.

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Question Of The Week:

Kill, Fuck, Marry: Evolution

[loopydate]

Marry - Batista. Get me some of that Guardians of the Galaxy money!

Fuck - Randy. Because fuck Randy.

Kill - Triple H. No real reason. He's just the last one left. Almost did Marry for him, but his family business is losing money like crazy.

[FourFifty]

Marry- Triple H. This means you're part of the most important family in wrestling history.
Fuck- Batista. He seems like a gentle lover.
Kill- Randy. Get him off my tv.

[FourFifty]

...there needs to be a deadline for the question of the week... Alundra Blayze was a good answer....

[Poit]

We generally start recording at 6 PM Eastern every Tuesday.

Sorry, but your answer was too late. :(

[Poit]

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Question Of The Week:

In one sentence, explain why Seth Rollins turned on the Shield.

[James Steele]

He wanted to have copious amounts of sex with the McMahon family (Steph, Paul, Shane, Vince, and of course, Linda)

[Maluco]

He knew Evolution would never give up until The Shield were gone, so he joined them.

[Emperor Smeat]

Was promised the ownership of Triple H's Sledgehammer of Destiny to help him dismantle the House of Shield.

[loopydate]

Cayse's rant on Rollins is exactly why I stopped watching wrestling. I just. couldn't. take. the nonsense anymore.

As for the QotW: "Rollins is going to turn on them next week like Bryan did to the Wyatts."

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He probably thought Reigns being the chosen one in The Shield was the biggest injustice there was. So, he took Batista spot in Evolution after curb-stomping him out of the WWE at the PPV.

[James Steele]

Yeah, it makes complete sense to become enraged at something that may happen. It makes sense to end The Shield now and keep Rollins in a stable. What is left for The Shield to do? Reigns is ready for his push and Ambrose will be fine on his own. Rollins still needs some work and letting him work with main eventers and a different type of heel will help flesh him out until he is ready fly solo. From Rollins standpoint, he has busted his ass to keep The Shield together and yet he is still perceived as the 3rd in the hierarchy and why keep fighting what you can't truly defeat? Rollins found the greatest injustice worth fighting for was him not becoming the breakout star of The Shield. FFS if you overthink every heel/face turn in wrestling history, they'll never make sense. The whole point of turning a guy is to give a dramatic and major shift/change in their character.

[loopydate]

So, he goes from 3rd in the hierarchy of the Shield to 3rd in the hierarchy of Evolution. That's a pretty lateral move, if not a step back - since the two guys ahead of him are multiple-time World Champions.

[James Steele]

How is being associated with a group of world champions a lateral move?

[James Steele]

In theory, his motivation is that he is going to reap what Batista wasn't patient enough to get.

[Innovator]

"Heyuuuuuh Seth, if you join Evolution, I will give you Dave's spot. Not just his spot in the group, but all the spots in matches where you get to take a nap while Randy and myself bump all over the building. You also get access to Papa Smurf's ring gear."

[Afterlife]

In theory, his motivation is that he is going to reap what Batista wasn't patient enough to get.

Still doesn't make sense. H had this "plan B" before Batista walked out on Evolution, so Seth wouldn't have made the deal expecting anything related to Batista's position.

[James Steele]

Joining Evolution makes sense. Why keep fighting if even when you beat the shit out of them you still don't "win"? Especially when you were the guy working so hard to keep the group from falling apart to begin with. Batista leaving was just the last thing needed to convince Rollins to make the switch because now Evolution needs a 3rd man and more desperate than ever and willing to offer him even more.

[James Steele]

Do seriously expect WWE to have Rollins and HHH reveal some convoluted master plan? Why is selling out for power and money not good enough motivation? Why keep fighting a war you can't win? Booker T's reasoning on the post show was perfect enough for the story.

[XL]

Expecting at least 15 minutes on Jason Jordan's finisher being called the "Jordan Slam" next week.

[Poit]

Still doesn't make sense. H had this "plan B" before Batista walked out on Evolution, so Seth wouldn't have made the deal expecting anything related to Batista's position.

Recruiting Rollins could have been an "in case Batista leaves" plan.

[Innovator]

It's great to see Troy and Abed make it as a tag team

[Nowhere Man]

Do seriously expect WWE to have Rollins and HHH reveal some convoluted master plan? Why is selling out for power and money not good enough motivation? Why keep fighting a war you can't win? Booker T's reasoning on the post show was perfect enough for the story.

Because selling out for power and money is fucking BORING. That is, quite easily, the laziest and least interesting way to have a character shift.

And like I said in the 'cast, it runs completely counter to what we've seen of Rollins' character-- "Hey, you know all that stuff I said and did to show that I was the guy always willing to put my life on the line for the group and our cause? Turns out all that was a lie and I was just a greedy asshole all along. Though really if all I was looking for was money and power I wouldn't have left the Authority in the first fucking place but hey, who needs sensible motivations?"

And no, joining Evolution doesn't 'make sense' if you've already beaten them to the point where one of them walks out. WWE's nebulously complicated authority-figure structure means that Trips wouldn't be able to just fire the Shield without Vince or the Board of Directors or whoever the fuck coming out to overturn it (and if he could just can them, he would've done it as soon as they turned on him). And they've annihilated every goon squad Trips has thrown at them. So again, why jump ship right when you're winning to be the lowest man on a totem pole that you're already chopping down?

[Afterlife]

Joining Evolution makes sense. Why keep fighting if even when you beat the shit out of them you still don't "win"? Especially when you were the guy working so hard to keep the group from falling apart to begin with. Batista leaving was just the last thing needed to convince Rollins to make the switch because now Evolution needs a 3rd man and more desperate than ever and willing to offer him even more.

And...you think The Shield had any intentions of backing down? Do you not recall that is was The Shield who requested this Payback match? The Shield has been willing to go toe-to-toe with anyone, anytime, anywhere. They do win. They did win. They effectively disassembled Evolution by frustrating Triple H so much that he drove Batista away. That is the End of Evolution. That is The Shield winning.

The fact that Batista left couldn't have had anything to do with Rollins joing because, again, H said that Plan B was in the works before Batista quit, which meant that Rollins was already going to join.

Oh, and none of this actually explains Rollins' motivation.

[Afterlife]

Do seriously expect WWE to have Rollins and HHH reveal some convoluted master plan? Why is selling out for power and money not good enough motivation? Why keep fighting a war you can't win? Booker T's reasoning on the post show was perfect enough for the story.

Yes, I expect the biggest wrestling company in the country to have a writing staff.

Power and money isn't good enough motivation because it runs against Rollins' character.

They did win the war.

Booker T hasn't been interesting since he split from Goldust and post-shows don't matter.

[Nark Order]

Power and money does work. You are just being difficult. I get this isn't what you wanted, but it really isn't bad. Ambrose and Reigns are already ready for singles runs and Rollins needs a it of work. Putting him with Trips works. And as I said on the podcast, if he came out and was like "Triple H gave me a million dollars and a future title shot," I would buy it and it would make sense. Also, If Rollins truly believes he's a master group architect, why wouldn't he wants to form an alliance with two of the Kayfabe best guys in the company? Not to mention he's got a guy with power on his side now. It works. You just aren't letting it work.

[Afterlife]

Power and money does work. You are just being difficult. I get this isn't what you wanted, but it really isn't bad.

No, Narc. The guys who have been thrashing the 'power and money' characters would not suddenly change to become one. It just doesn't make sense.

Ambrose and Reigns are already ready for singles runs and Rollins needs a it of work.

I don't think he needs any real work, but that has nothing to do with not having a logical reason for him to turn on them for the losing team.

Putting him with Trips works. And as I said on the podcast, if he came out and was like "Triple H gave me a million dollars and a future title shot," I would buy it and it would make sense.

Teaming him with the guy his current team has soundly embarrassed twice in a row...works. How, exactly? Nobody has said anything about title shots or monetary gifts -- which, again, wouldn't be enticing to the character who was all about brotherhood and solidarity over authoritarianism -- so, how does it actually work?

Also, If Rollins truly believes he's a master group architect, why wouldn't he wants to form an alliance with two of the Kayfabe best guys in the company?

Because he's already on the team THAT HAS DESTROYED THOSE GUYS TWICE IN A ROW. It does not make sense.

What does being an "architect" even have to do with that? How does being the core of The Shield benefit him when working with two guys who have been working together for so long, now? All H has to do is tell Randy he wants an apology, and Orton immediately gets on his knees, so what does Rollins have to do with their relationship?

Not to mention he's got a guy with power on his side now. It works. You just aren't letting it work.

Again, having a guy "with power" on his side...who he has soundly gone up against and defeated TWICE IN A ROW. He has not been afraid to go up against authority...but now he suddenly wants to buddy up with the authority figure...even though said authority figure has been unable to stop oppressed talent from winning championships? :wtf:

Just because we're pointing out how illogical this is doesn't mean that we're the reason it isn't logical.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Rollins took the money from the Authority before. Why is it that hard to believe that he came back to it?

[#1-norm-fan]

No, Narc. The guys who have been thrashing the 'power and money' characters would not suddenly change to become one. It just doesn't make sense.

The guy in charge that he was thrashing has decided he can't beat him so he's used his money and power to get him to "join the dark side" and fight FOR him. Rollins once stood for justice and now he's a sellout turning on his friends to do what's best for himself. It's a wrestling heel turn. Ever seen one?

[Afterlife]

The guy in charge that he was thrashing has decided he can't beat him so he's used his money and power to get him to "join the dark side" and fight FOR him. Rollins once stood for justice and now he's a sellout turning on his friends to do what's best for himself. It's a wrestling heel turn. Ever seen one?

...why?

I appreciate your attempt at biting sarcasm, but nothing you've said here is a reason.

[#1-norm-fan]

... You're asking why a pro wrestling character would become evil and corrupt. Jesus Christ.

[loopydate]

And it's that sort or dismissive attitude that is why WWE will never have consistent internal logic in their storytelling. No other fiction medium gets this response. If midway through Episode VII, Han Solo - former smuggler and overall scoundrel-turned-hero of the Rebellion that overthrew the Empire - decided to shoot Luke and Chewie and align himself with the regional governor holding on to the last vestige of Imperial power for no reason other than "he paid me more than Mon Mothma," people would be fucking furious and calling for JJ's head.

Yet, because it's pro wrestling "... You're asking why a pro wrestling character would become evil and corrupt. Jesus Christ." is somehow a "winning" argument.

[Lock Jaw]

Rollins did not need work, in my opinion.... he was fantastic as a face, and I think he had easily become #2 in the hierarchy, possibly on his way to becoming #1 in the eyes of the fans. He had that Daniel Bryan-esque "frenzy" about him that the fans really got behind, and top that off with his crazy dives....

I have a wild conspiracy theory that they chose to turn him heel now, so that he wouldn't gain even more steam and outshine their chosen one Roman Reigns.

[#1-norm-fan]

And it's that sort or dismissive attitude that is why WWE will never have consistent internal logic in their storytelling. No other fiction medium gets this response. If midway through Episode VII, Han Solo - former smuggler and overall scoundrel-turned-hero of the Rebellion that overthrew the Empire - decided to shoot Luke and Chewie and align himself with the regional governor holding on to the last vestige of Imperial power for no reason other than "he paid me more than Mon Mothma," people would be fucking furious and calling for JJ's head.

Yet, because it's pro wrestling "... You're asking why a pro wrestling character would become evil and corrupt. Jesus Christ." is somehow a "winning" argument.

Fuck just pro wrestling. What form of entertainment DOESN'T feature good guys becoming corrupt and turning evil. How is this such an insane fucking concept!? lol

Hulk Hogan was the greatest good guy wrestling had ever seen. He had everything he could have possibly wanted and he became evil and corrupt. Did that drive you as nuts?

Rollins wasn't even that far removed from being a heel henchman for the authority, FFS. How is it so hard to buy him turning his back on his friends and turning into a selfish prick for money and power? Something just about every wrestler has done at some point in the history of the business to keep stories and characters progressing.

[Lock Jaw]

Hulk Hogan's heel turn probably would have driven him nuts if he had fought Scott Hall and Kevin Nash for two months beforehand, having brutal battles that he won decisively.

[loopydate]

Hogan's heel turn was completely logical.

He had everything. He was the conquering hero. He was adored by millions. Except the boos were starting to creep in. The old-school fans hated him, because he brought up-north Sports Entertainment down and replaced their Wrasslin with it. He'd driven out their favorites and replaced them with his.

Now, suddenly, here are are these fresh new faces. Young blood, hungry for a shot they feel like they never got. They want to upset the status quo and they want to take over. If Hulk hitches his wagon to them, he's the megastar again. He's the draw. He can make the rules, and if the fans are going to boo him, he's gonna give em something to fucking boo!

Add to that the fact that Hall and Nash had soundly disrupted every broadcast they'd been a part of. Everyone who'd stood in their way had been demolished. If Hogan and his pals couldn't beat them, why not join them?

Now, imagine that story the exact opposite and you have a pretty close approximation of the Rollins heel turn.

[#1-norm-fan]

Hogan had his reasons to turn into the bad guy. Rolling had his.

He could stay as a member of a three man group winning matches but always being against the guys in charge and held back because of it...

Or he could break away on his own, join up with the authority and become the golden child of THE GUY WHO RUNS THE FUCKING COMPANY and make a shitload more money.

And he chose to do that. Because sometimes... in wrestling... good guys... turn bad...

Hogan was the ultimate good guy and when there were immoral things that came along that he could profit off of, he took them.

Rollins wasn't even that much of a good guy. He was freshly removed from being an evil fuck. And lo and behold, when the offer to turn his back and join the dark side for promises of money and the chance to be the "chosen one" of the owner of the company came up, he took it.

[loopydate]

And if that winds up being the story they tell, that's great. But right now it looks like he went from being the lackey for the evil corporation, eighth on the totem pole (behind Steph, Evolution, The demon Kane, Ambrose, and Reigns) doing their dirty work until he grew a conscience, keeping together the only group to put a chink in the Authority's armor, and positioning himself as a breakout star to... being a lackey for the evil corporation, sixth on the totem pole.

If this turns into a "this guy is the future of the business" story with Rollins getting unfair title shots and the like i.e. Corporate Rock (now with 70% less charisma!) then I may get onboard. As it stands now, he just looks like he went from being #3 in the stable that's consistently beating the powers that be to being just another henchman on the losing side.

[#1-norm-fan]

Well, yeah. Your problem isn't really with the heel turn itself then. It's with the lack of power you THINK he's gonna end up getting from it. My whole point originally was that Afterlife seemed to not see how power and money corrupting a wrestler is a viable reason for a heel turn in part because it "runs against Rollins' character". Which just shows an odd lack of understanding of the whole point of a good guy turning bad.

[Nark Order]

My point is that it really isn't against his character that much either. The guys in the Shield have always had a really backwards and slanted view of what "justice" means. I mean, they were bludgeoning people and then manufacturing faux heroic reasons to justify the horror they dealt out. They were blood thirty maniacs and then they were The Authority's goons for awhile afterwards. They've been paid off before. When they thought the authority couldn't offer them what they wanted, they rebelled. Now if Triple H comes up with the right amount of money and reasons for Rollins to leave, I would expect him to take it, given that they were basically mercenaries for hire only a couple months ago. It really isn't all that bad of writing. I guess I'll wait until Rollins officially gives his reasoning, but for now I'm still optimistic.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

I don't have a problem with this, because I try not to have problems with things I currently know very little about.

I expect I'll start to form a judgement after Raw, assuming they give us some kind of explanation.

[James Steele]

Fuck you all for making me agree with #1-wwf-fan and Narc.

[Poit]

It's great to see Troy and Abed make it as a tag team

Troy and Abed in a taaaag team.

[Poit]

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Question Of The Week:

Which three wrestlers would you have join Del Rio, Orton, Sheamus, and Cesaro in the WWE World Heavyweight Championship ladder match at Money in the Bank?

[XL]

Ziggler, Big E and Rey Mysterio. It's been aaaaaaaaages since they got to mix it up with Alberto Del Rio.

[Poit]

*scowl*

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Ruseva Udrea ....
Ruseva Macka!'

Rusev, Bray Wyatt, John Cena and Kane.

There's supposed to be 8 in this I thought.

[XL]

Graphic showed the 4 qualified and 3 "shadows".

[FourFifty]

Question Of The Week:

Which three wrestlers would you have join Del Rio, Orton, Sheamus, and Cesaro in the WWE World Heavyweight Championship ladder match at Money in the Bank?



Kane as the token big man.
Luke Harper to give him a chance.
Adrian Nevile to do flippy stuff and then go back to NXT to promptly lose the title to Tyler Breeze.

[loopydate]

For the World Title, much as I hate it, you can't do it without Cena. If this was just for a shot, I'd say fill it with on-the-cusp guys, but any multi-man match for a vacant world title has to include your franchise player.

I still think the Authority works Rollins into the match. Any MitB match needs a bump machine, and he's the only guy remotely high enough on the card to fit that bill.

It would make sense for them not to include Show, the Rhodeses, or the Shield considering their rivalries with the Authority. I would suggest Kane, but I imagine they'll have him against Reigns or Ambrose as an undercard match.

There's really only one other guy high enough on the card to warrant inclusion and that's Bray. He's the most interesting choice for a winner, too, which is why he won't.

[Emperor Smeat]

Question Of The Week:

Which three wrestlers would you have join Del Rio, Orton, Sheamus, and Cesaro in the WWE World Heavyweight Championship ladder match at Money in the Bank?

Cena - Only because of Bryan's injury status, the teasing done 2 weeks ago, and him always being WWE's fallback choice whenever something goes wrong.

Bray Wyatt - Gets added as a way to try to foil Cena and stretch out their feud for a bit longer before Bray moves on.

Brock Lesnar - Treat him as the surprise entrant to the point he only gets revealed well into the match itself with Heyman proclaiming his client has arrived. Also can be used to segue into the rumored Lesnar-Bryan feud once Bryan returns assuming Lesnar takes the title.


Had Sandow not been stuck with the random weekly comedic filler thing, he'd replace Lesnar's spot. Would treat as him wanting redemption for the injustice of his foiled cash in the year before.

[Heisenberg]

My son loves Rusev, I have no idea why, I threatened to kick Rusev's ass and he got upset. He is 6. I don't know what the appeal is there, but they got him.

I would love to see Rowan no sell a promo myself. He's in the back of the room peeing and he zips up and tells us to follow the buzzards while Harper is blowing on a Nintendo cartridge

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

Covering NXT, Impact, Slammiversary, and Raw, plus light dashes of Smackdown and Main Event.

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Question Of The Week:

Who would be your ideal winners of the two upcoming ladder matches at Money In The Bank?

[loopydate]

Ideally, I'd have Bray Wyatt and Luke Harper win.

Harper wins MitB by just decimating the undercard. Maybe he's a last-minute addition. Maybe there's a stip on the tag match that the winning team enters. However you do it, get him in the match. Can you imagine the shit Brodie Lee could do to a man with a ladder?

Bray winning makes him the Big Boss. Every great hero journey has to culminate in a showdown with the embodiment of evil, and Bryan's redemption story has to go through Bray.

So you put the belt on Wyatt and the briefcase on Luke, and you start the speculation. Will Luke turn? The next night on Raw you have the Wyatts in the ring, and the case is at Bray's feet. Luke pledges that the case is Bray's. It belongs to the Family. If anyone should pry the title from Bray's cold, dead hands, retribution will be swift and Luke will bring it back to the fold immediately.

So now there's the specter of: Not only does every challenger for the Title now have to go through a demon, but now they know even if they win, there's a redneck sadist waiting to actually murder them the moment they do.

You can then tell any number of stories: Luke eventually becomes un-brainwashed and turns face and cashes in on Bray, Bray turns face when he's betrayed by the only two people bigger and more evil than he, a major babyface does the impossible and unseats Bray only to be the first casualty in Luke's reign of terror, major babyface overcomes the odds and defeats two monsters in one night to become (and stay) champion.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm thinking Dean Ambrose for the contract. I'm a huge mark for the guy, but I think regardless of who the champion is, he would make a great constant threat. If Reigns wins the World Title, can you imagine the speculation that Ambrose would cash in on his brother? The only thing is that I could see Ambrose and Rollins effectively cancelling each other out in the match. Their brawl could effectively leave things open for another Superstar to pull down the briefcase.

If I had to go to someone else to win, it'd actually have to be Dolph Ziggler. He's consistently over, such a great worker, working hard to become a good promo and people [I]want[I] to see him as the champion.

For the title match? My heart can't go past Cesaro. I think Wyatt, Reigns and Cena would all be better decisions, but I just think Cesaro would get the most out of it. I'd have Reigns cost the match by Triple H, and as it looks like Orton is about to win, Cena comes in and tosses Orton off the ladder. They do a "Cena is going to win!" tease, before Cesaro springboards in and uppercuts Cena to hell off the ladder and pulls down the belts.

Cena goes on to be Cesaro's first feud.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Ah fuck it, I can't do it -- I think it's got to be Roman Reigns or Bray Wyatt. I'm going with Reigns, just because. I'm also going with Ambrose winning the briefcase. Ambrose keeps his feud going with Rollins and Reigns defends successfully against Orton at Battleground. Reigns also defeats Brock Lesnar at SummerSlam. Reigns then beats Triple H at Night of Champions, in a match where Triple H essentially makes it No Disqualification for him, but if Reigns gets DQ'd he loses the title. Hell in a Cell sees Reigns destroy Triple H. You go in a different direction for Survivor Series. Maybe it will be time for a one-on-one match with Cena at this point?

[Innovator]

Barrett wins the contract.

Cena wins the title.

Ryback ambushes Cena after the match with a lariat.

Slater, Gabriel, Otunga, Axel hit the ring and continue the beatdown.

Barrett comes out and cashes in.

Barrett, the WWE World Heavyweight Champion, leader of the Bad News Nexus

[Heisenberg]

Ideal, yeah, you threw that word in there, good. Cut my music.

My pick would be a double cross by Dean Ambrose to join Evolution to either knock Seth Rollins out of the group or to be a ruse between the two and Dean getting the case.

My wife still loves me, she hasn't left me to this day, bless her heart.

My WWE Championship pick would have to be Cena due to the impending Summerslam PPV coming. My wish would be to put it on Cesaro for a "Just the tip" experiment, but please don't put it on Reigns yet. He is a slow cooker and not fully baked yet. Right, hit my music

[Innovator]

I'm ok with Cena winning if it means he gets his shit pushes in by Lesnar at Summerslam

[Emperor Smeat]

Wade Barrettt for the MitB case match and Cena for the title match.

Going to assume the title match winner is only a transitional champion which would make Cena the best choice. Wouldn't be negatively affected by a meaningless reign and out of everyone involved, he fits well for a potential Lesnar and/or Bryan title feud.

Feel like its Barrett's time to eventually become champion or reach that next level in his career.

[Nark Order]

I was thinking. If Randy won the title and Rollins won the case, it could lead to some pretty intruiging Orton/Rollins interactions with Randy constantly being paranoid that Rollins is going to turn on him. Given his past with business partners, Randy would have a right to look over his shoulder constantly

[Poit]

Covering NXT, Impact, and Raw, plus light dashes of Smackdown, Main Event, and Ring of Honor.

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Question Of The Week:

If WWE were to call up two wrestlers from NXT in the next month, who should it be and why?

[Nark Order]

We did a new format this week. We stopped most of our recaps by request. Thought it went well. Let us know.

[Afterlife]

Hated it.

[XL]

Nowhere Man, can we please stop referring to Evolution in the present tense? Rollins has never been referred to as a member of Evolution, they've not appeared together as a unit since the initial turn. The group, including the music, went away when Batista left. Evolution is done.

Seth Rollins a part of/backed by The Authority.

Thank you for your time.

Regards,

XL

[Tazz Dan]

I need to merge all the threads still. It will happen, I promise :kiss:

[Nark Order]

Nowhere Man, can we please stop referring to Evolution in the present tense? Rollins has never been referred to as a member of Evolution, they've not appeared together as a unit since the initial turn. The group, including the music, went away when Batista left. Evolution is done.

Seth Rollins a part of/backed by The Authority.

Thank you for your time.

Regards,

XL

True, but it does get a bit confusing when Triple H says "you have to adapt to survive" every week in reference to Rollins jumping ship. He still talks like a leader of a stable called Evolution would talk. It sounds like they don't know what they want.

[Emperor Smeat]

Question Of The Week:

If WWE were to call up two wrestlers from NXT in the next month, who should it be and why?

The Ascension and Sami Zayn.

Ascension pretty much have done all they can on NXT while the main roster could always benefit with an extra team for the tag division.

[Poit]

Last call for responses to this week's question of the week.

[Lock Jaw]

Kallisto, to try having a masked luchadore that people can actually get behind again. Would probably just end of fighting Alberto Del Rio 500 times.

Bayley, but with the caveat that they actually TRY to bring over her NXT character. Would be good to see segments with her backstage where she is just marking out and trying to hug everybody...

[Poit]

TOO LATE

[Poit]

But we did discuss Kallisto & Bayley as answers.

[Poit]

Covering NXT, Impact, Main Event, Smackdown, Money In The Bank, and Raw.

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Question Of The Week:

Based on the current landscape, what should be the main event feud going into WM 31?

[James Steele]

Daniel Bryan vs Brock Lesnar
John Cena vs Roman Reigns

[Emperor Smeat]

Bryan vs Lesnar vs Reigns

Solves the problem of Bryan's return status causing any potential issues while Reigns benefits by having two big stars involved for his potential big Mania moment.

Ideally, Lesnar's reign would be him just flat out dominating everyone to really emphasis him as the "final boss" of the roster going into Mania season.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Sami Zayn should have been called up like yesterday. The dude's whole shtick is that he's just a genuinely likeable competitor, so he doesn't need the frills and production to get his toes wet. Just bring him up and have him wrestle. Give him a big upset like they did when he debuted in NXT, perhaps against a guy like Alberto Del Rio, and have him go from there.

Adrian Neville and Tyler Breeze strike me as the next two guys that are "ready." And much like Zayn, they are pretty easy to plug in. Neville could even be brought up as an occasional tag team partner of Zayn's.

As for the main event program at WrestleMania 31? I just can't help but feel that Daniel Bryan should be the winner of the 2015 Royal Rumble. The Authority won't give him a shot? He earns it. Bryan would be a well-deserved Rumble Winner and it'd make total sense. As for who the champion would be? A lot of people seem to think that Brock Lesnar is going to get a run with the belts. They are probably right. I guess Lesnar vs. Bryan works fine for me. There is also the possibility of Cena vs. Bryan, however, which I feel could be huge. Cesaro could then be the guy who faces Brock. But if you do Lesnar vs. Bryan, you can always do Cena vs. Cesaro.

Roman Reigns is in a lot of main event discussions, but I just can't help but feel as if he'd be better used elsewhere at WrestleMania 31. Maybe he is the guy they put against Triple H? Or you could have Reigns face The Rock, if The Rock is willing to work another match. Reigns vs. Ambrose vs. Rollins in a clash of the former Shield? That would be a huge match. I also wouldn't be opposed to even seeing Reigns take the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal.

[Heisenberg]

Wrestlemania 31 Main Event:



FATAL FOUR WAY W/ SPECIAL GUEST REF AND MANAGERS IN EVERY CORNER



Roman Reigns w/ The Rock



v.s.



Dean Ambrose w/ HBK



v.s.



Seth Rollins(C) w/ HHH



v.s.



Cesaro w/ Paul Heyman



w/ John Cena as the Guest Referee due to being kayfabe injured

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

Technical difficulties, so we'll have to record the rest of this week's episode tomorrow.

[James Steele]

faggots

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

Covering NXT, Impact, Main Event, Smackdown, and Raw.

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Questions Of The Week:

If WWE signed Samoa Joe...

What name would YOU give him?

What name do you think THEY would give him?

[#1-norm-fan]

What name would YOU give him?

Something less generic and more "larger than life" sounding to help in developing a distinct character. Like... "Primal". Seems like a name that people could get used to. Or some Samoan word that means "monster" or "beast" or something.


What name do you think THEY would give him?

Something more generic and less "less larger than life". Like Gideon Bane.

[Heisenberg]

Everyone can run their mouths about Samoa Joe, but I believe 100% that nothing but good will come of his pending arrival to WWE.

Hell, it might be part of the deal package CM Punk is requesting backstage.

Get positive for once in your life. It might feel good

[James Steele]

I'd name Samoa Joe, I'tiki Payne.

Samoa Joe will probably be named Po Ferocity.

[Emperor Smeat]

Questions Of The Week:

If WWE signed Samoa Joe...

What name would YOU give him?

What name do you think THEY would give him?

1) Joe "The Boulder" Johnson ... long lost relative of The Rock.

2) Ralphus

[loopydate]

I would keep the Samoa Joe name. He's the biggest "Indy" star to never work for WWE, and he's been name dropped in a couple official WWE DVD or releases. Use his built-in pedigree from ROH and allude to TNA without actually referring to them by name and you've got an automatic story with Bryan and - if and when he returns - Punk.

They'll probably go with something from the NXT Name Generator. Avery Wilcox or something like that.

[drave]

Not a Samoa Joe fan, he can stay in lolTNA.

[Innovator]

I'd keep him with the Samoa Joe name, knowing WWE they'd drop half of it so he'd only be Samoa two months after his debut.

If they named him off the bat, they'd call him Sumo Sam and he'd be a Japanese sumo wrestler.

[loopydate]

Slab Bulkhead!
Fridge Largemeat!
Punt Speedchunk!
Butch Deadlift!
Bold Bigflank!
Splint Chesthair!
Flint Ironstag!
Bolt Vanderhuge!
Thick McRunfast!
Blast Hardcheese!
Buff Drinklots!
Trunk Slamchest!
Fist Rockbone!
Stump Beefknob!
Smash Lampjaw!
Punch Rockgroin!
Buck Plankchest!
Stump Chunkmen!
Dirk Hardpec!
Rip Steakface!
Slate Slabrock!
Crud Bonemeal!
Brick HardMeat!
Rip Slagcheek!
Punch Sideiron!
Gristle McThornbody!
Slate Fistcrunch!
Buff Hardback!
Bob Johnson! Oh, wait...
Blast Thickneck!
Crunch Buttsteak!
Slab Squatthrust!
Lump Beefbroth!
Touch Rustrod!
Reef Blastbody!
Big McLargeHuge!
Smoke ManMuscle!
Eat Punchbeef!
Hack Blowfist!
Roll Fizzlebeef!

[Innovator]

FIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZLEBEEF

[XL]

Have him come in as Khali's brother with a fondness for baked savoury snacks, he'd be Samosa Joe.

Or, instead of going the "obvious" route of presenting him as a savage, they could go the other way and have Joe be a sophisticated, smoking-jacket-wearing gentleman; Samuel Joseph, Esq.

Of course, they should just bring him in as Samoa Joe. Why not use the name recognition he has built over the last 10 years?

[James Steele]

:lol: "name recognition"

[Innovator]

Pretty sure he left his name recognition in the white van with the ninja kidnappers.

[Innovator]

Or with the machete, face paint, and the NATION OF VIOLENCE

[Innovator]

Or underneath the pile of clothes on the treadmill in his house.

[Innovator]

All I want for Joe at this point is for another van to kidnap him while heading to the ring. Instead of a lair or anything like that, it's actually a rescue group who let him out in a warm, sunny park. Joe is hesitant at first to leave the van, but soon thereafter starts walking around and galavanting in the park, relearning how to have fun.

[XL]

:lol: "name recognition"

Hey, looks like they're gonna let KENTA keep his name and I'd wager that he has less name recognition than Joe in the US.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

Covering NXT, Impact, Main Event, Smackdown, and Raw.

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Question Of The Week:

Whose face would you like to see on the titantron for an entire episode of Raw?

[James Steele]

This exact picture:

http://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/30578091/triple_h_and_steph.0_standard_730.0.jpg

[owenbrown]

Cena whenever Raw is at (insert very smarky city here) and instead of the regular titantrons for each Superstar/Diva just play Cena's entrance every time. So I can see the look on Vince & Co.'s faces when the crowd/ TV audience 100% turns on them

[James Steele]

Also, I request that someone do a Richard Belzer impression.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Covering NXT, Impact, Main Event, Smackdown, and Raw.

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Question Of The Week:

Whose face would you like to see on the titantron for an entire episode of Raw?


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[XL]

They really should do a Hair vs. Hair Match with Bo.

I'm thinking someone like Adrian Neville once he makes it to the main roster consoling Bo having just cost Bo his "luscious locks", telling him to "keep his chin up, it'll grow back...if you just Bo-lieve, pet".

[XL]

As for QotW;

They should put Bray's upside down face on the tron.

[Innovator]

First thing:

I didn't say "Hey stretch out Jeff/Willow's decision for a month to build suspense", I said they could have let it simmer for a week, have Kurt cut that same promo a week before the battle royale. TNA likes to do show long builds, I said give it a week and see if you can get some more people interested in the reveal.

Second thing:

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