NFL 2012 Off-Season Thread

[Nark Order]

A 49er with a heart of gold.

[Triple Naitch]

Jacob's son is the same size of him.

[Innovator]

A 49er with a heart of gold.

Now, just wait for the first game when he only gets 5-7 touches and sprouts off to the media.

[Next Big Thing]

Jonathan Vilma and four other Saints entered their appeal this morning. Goddell (that asshole) adjourned their meeting and asked to meet later this afternoon.

VIlma ain't having that and said he isn't coming back for this circus. It appears that the other three are undecided on whether or not to return. All four may pursue other legal actions.


I love Jonathan Vilma's Gangster throughout this whole stint. He's on some Nino Brown shit...although Nino Brown rolled over and snitched on everybody as soon as he got some heat.

Nino also got popped in the end, so now I'm fully expecting Vilma to win his appeal and then get shot by Brett Favre as he's walking out of NFL HQ.

[Krimzon7]

Nino also got popped in the end, so now I'm fully expecting Vilma to win his appeal and then get shot by Brett Favre as he's walking out of NFL HQ.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The bigger joke is the NFL appeals process itself.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Derrick Ward retires at age 31. His career went into a tailspin after that great 2008 season he had with the Giants.</font>

[Nark Order]

TO working out with Drew Brews and Carson Palmer. Lol. Jesus.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Amani Toomer says he'd rather have Tony Romo than Eli Manning. lol okay guy. Enjoy being booed at Giants Stadium anytime a highlight is shown of you. AKA the Tiki Barber treatment</font>

[Ermaximus]

So he'd rather play with a guy who can't make the playoffs rather than a guy who has won 2 Super Bowls? What a dumbass.

[Gonzo]

ELI MANNING > YOUR FAVORITE TEAM'S QUARTERBACK

[Ermaximus]

Come on now, saying that Eli is better than Blaine Gabbert is an obvious overstatement.

[Curtis Anderson]

Makes me sick to my stomach that the Broncos acquired Peyton Manning, but this doesn't mean that the Raiders/Broncos rivalry is one sided at all. I think everybody is going to be pretty surprised at how well the Raiders do this year. Trading away those draft picks maybe wasn't the greatest idea in theory, but if Carson Palmer pays off then it will all be worth it.

[Curtis Anderson]

This will also be the year of Darius Bey-Heyward.

[DaveBrawl]

The Raiders should be a good team depending on coaching, but I believe the surprise team in that division will be KC if they have recovered from last seasons injuries.

[FearedSanctity]

Can't imagine Dennis Allen being ready enough to be a competent HC. One year as a DC of a defense that IMO was pretty overrated makes you ready? And even then how much was him and how much was John Fox? Just don't see this going well for Oakland, which of course I have no problem with

Agree on the KC thing though, pretty worried about what they can do with a healthy team.

[Nark Order]

I want to support Oakland so badly but everybody I've ever known that is a Raiders fan has the IQ of a brick. They really "fucking ruin it" for me.

[Nark Order]

Also, I really like Hue Jackson as a guy and they really pushed his shit in for seemingly no reason.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

really happy Hue Jackson is back with the Bengals

seems like an all around awesome guy

[Curtis Anderson]

You can never be certain with new head coaches though. They could be busts or they could be the second coming of Jim Harbaugh.

[Nark Order]

really happy Hue Jackson is back with the Bengals

seems like an all around awesome guy

Yeah, I used to listen to bay area sports radio all the time because of the 9ers and they had frequent interviews with Hue. He is a really happy jolly guy most all of the time and he's got a pretty good "football mind." His overall demeanor though is what makes me like him though. Doesn't have to be some serious dickhead all the time.

[Kris P Lettus]

Dear Saints,

STOP FUCKING AROUND AND SIGN DREW BREES..

Sincerly,
The Who Dat Nation

[Ermaximus]

I want to support Oakland so badly but everybody I've ever known that is a Raiders fan has the IQ of a brick. They really "fucking ruin it" for me.

Now you know how I feel being a Redskins fan.

[Triple Naitch]

How many teams do you root for?

[DaveBrawl]

As long as he doesn't say the Chargers we're cool.

[Gonzo]

Now you know how I feel being a Redskins fan.

You are dead to me.

[Curtis Anderson]

There are non-autistic Raiders fans. One must just search far and wide for them.They will still probably be fat though.

[Ermaximus]

How many teams do you root for?
Just 3. Jaguars, Steelers, and Redskins. Dad grew up in Maryland so before the Jags were around I rooted for them and still do. Steelers comes from my Mom's side.

You are dead to me.

Why?

[RP]

Can this season start already?

[Gonzo]

Just 3. Jaguars, Steelers, and Redskins. Dad grew up in Maryland so before the Jags were around I rooted for them and still do. Steelers comes from my Mom's side.



Why?

Redskins. :nono:

The only way to settle this will be Mortal Kombat.

[Ermaximus]

Redskins. :nono:

The only way to settle this will be Mortal Kombat.

Ahhh because you being a Giants fan. I live with it. It's not like they're good or anything.

My sister is a Giants fan too, but she mainly likes them because she likes Eli.

[James Steele]

I am a fan of America's Team and you both can fuck off and die.

http://www.parkcitiespeople.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Jerry-Jones-Dallas-owner-2008_1608766.jpg

[Innovator]

http://media.nj.com/star-ledger/photo/2012/05/11032178-standard.jpg

[Gonzo]

Hold on, have to put my sunglasses on to look at that picture.

[Ermaximus]

I am a fan of America's Team and you both can fuck off and die.

http://www.parkcitiespeople.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Jerry-Jones-Dallas-owner-2008_1608766.jpg

I don't dislike the Cowboys, just Jerry Jones.

[Krimzon7]

FUCK ALL OF YOU. I AM A FAN OF CINCINATTI


With the Bengals holding their training camp in Cincinnati for the first time, the club decided it'd be nice to offer a pep rally to its most loyal fans. Hopefully, though, those fans read the fine print. The part where it says they'll be charged $10 per ticket to the event, $5 for parking and “reduced price” food concessions.

Naturally, this has caused hand-wringing on at least one fan website. Who Dey Revolution -- which, as you might have guessed, usually blasts the Bengals -- used the letter to rip the team to shreds.

I won't do that here. Instead, I'll post the letter and see if you think it's fair.


With training camp coming to Cincinnati for the first time, the Bengals are hosting a special event and inviting all of our season ticket holders for what promises to be a fun evening.

On Thursday, July 26, the Bengals will kick off training camp with a pep rally with the entire Bengals team, followed by a concert and fireworks show.

Paul Brown Stadium gates will open at 6 p.m., and alumni players will be on hand for autographs. The Pep Rally will begin at 7 p.m. and feature comments from Head Coach Marvin Lewis and players, along with player introductions.

After the players depart for their first meeting of training camp, beginning at around 8 p.m., the local band DV8 will perform rock and pop hits for 90 minutes. The event will conclude with a fireworks show beginning at around 9:45 p.m.

Due to the Macy's Music Festival beginning on Friday the 27th, the stadium will be set up in concert mode with a stage on the field facing the east sideline. General admission seating will be available for this event on the field, as well as on the sideline levels. Season ticket holders can purchase an unlimited number of tickets to the Pep Rally.

Tickets for this Pep Rally & Concert are $10.

The entire stadium is not available due to the concert set up, so capacity is limited and tickets will be available on a first-come, first-serve basis. It is our hope that we fill up our capacity by getting a good response from season ticket holders who are excited by this fun, first-time event.

Tickets will be mailed to you after purchase. Parking in the Mehring Way Lots (Lots D, E & F) will be available at a cost of $5 per vehicle. ARAMARK will have concessions available at reduced prices.

We look forward to a great training camp followed by a winning season. We appreciate your support, and hope to see you at the Pep Rally & Concert.

In response to the criticism, Bengals spokesman Jeff Berding told the Cincinnati Enquirer that the event will cost the team “north of six figures” and that the ticket price was simply to help the team with the expense.

“I think most people think this is a pretty neat thing,” Berding said.

[Krimzon7]

THIS FUCKING TEAM WAS ONE OF THE MOST PROFITABLE TEAMS WHILE, CONCURRENTLY, BEING ONE OF THE LOSINEST TEAMS IN THE 1990'S.

Fuck you Mike Brown, you should pay us to come to these fucking game until you deliver a SUBERBOWL



So, I'll be in Cincy, anyone wanna do a meetup? :(

[James Steele]

I would like to see the Browns win the SuperBowl.

[tjogo]

I would like to see the Browns win the SuperBowl.

I would like to see pigs fly.

[Ermaximus]

I would like to see the Browns win the SuperBowl.

Browns/Jaguars AFC Championship game. Book it Steele! :(

[Gonzo]

THIS FUCKING TEAM WAS ONE OF THE MOST PROFITABLE TEAMS WHILE, CONCURRENTLY, BEING ONE OF THE LOSINEST TEAMS IN THE 1990'S.

Fuck you Mike Brown, you should pay us to come to these fucking game until you deliver a SUBERBOWL



So, I'll be in Cincy, anyone wanna do a meetup? :(

While it doesn't seem like a lot of money I think other teams would probably do it for free for season ticket holders, since you know, they pay thousands of dollars every year.

[Krimzon7]

Mike Brown is one of the LAST owners to only have a football team. This IS the source of his millions. This is why he's so doggone cheap. Most teams see there fans as, you know, FANS. Mike Brown sees us as stupid little assholes who owe him money.

[Gonzo]

Ahh I guess that makes a little bit more sense. Guy seems like a prick from Hard Knocks.

[Krimzon7]

Ahh I guess that makes a little bit more sense. Guy seems like a prick from Hard Knocks.

yeah he's an asshole, you see the way they cut the players? No privacy, no 'behind closed doors'....the turk walks up and just says, 'Hey, you're cut gimmie that playbook and let's get you a bus ride outta here'.

What a jerk thing to do. Totally classless. Just as classless as having the players PAY FOR THINGS IN MINICAMP.... They had to pay for TV's Cable, Internet, etc.


But I love them :'(

[Gonzo]

Well I mean other teams have cut players on camera but they'll at least get a talk from the coach or the GM. I don't recall the Bengals Hard Knocks too much but yeah.

I mean seeing the turk is a bad omen regardless.

[James Steele]

Fuck the Jags. The Browns have that whole loveable oaf thing going on.

[Nark Order]

I love the Browns. :(

[James Steele]

If the Browns had an awesome season and won the SuperBowl, I think their fans would just be happy and have tears streaming down their face and not be the massive pricks traditionally shitty teams who have a good year are. I think the Jags would be all "HAHAHAH FUCK YOU BITCH! GO JAGZZZZZZZZZZZZ!! JAGGGGSHOWWWWW!" (Yes, I know Cowboys fans could match that description the past 10 years.)

[Emperor Smeat]

Jags problem is Florida isn't a strong place for Pro sports besides the Dolphins and even they struggle at times compared to college sports especially football. Same flaw as LA where the people would rather be elsewhere than at a sports arena regardless how good the team is or they bail en masse the moment the team no longer is great.

Only way the Brows are ever going to be good is to truly mimic the Ravens and Steelers by having an awesome defense or go the route of the Bengals and rebuild the O-line if they can't match in defense.

[Ermaximus]

Come on now Steele, I'm not SammyG. I'd never use words like "JagShow."

[Gonzo]

I think their fans would just be happy and have tears streaming down their face and not be the massive pricks traditionally shitty teams who have a good year are.

To be fair I'm humble when discussing things in real life but here I take liberties because you're all faggot fans of gay teams.

[DaveBrawl]

You do not speak of the mighty Denver Broncos that way Gonzo.

[Ermaximus]

To be fair I'm humble when discussing things in real life but here I take liberties because you're all faggot fans of gay teams.

Last I checked, there are only 3 people here who like the Chargers.

[DaveBrawl]

None of them have self respect.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

You're all a bunch of bandwagon jumping pussies anyway.

[DaveBrawl]

Yeah but my wagon is the best wagon.

[Nark Order]

I want to go to a Raiders game one day but I don't want to get stabbed with a rusty sprinkler key. Conflicted.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Just wear that armor that everybody else has to wear when they go to the game

[Supreme Olajuwon]

it's not for looks

it's for protection

[Nark Order]

I never "got" the armor really. Aren't they supposed to be pirates? Why is everybody sporting medieval protection?

[DaveBrawl]

They should really start every game by welcoming everyone to Thunderdome.

[RoXer]

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[ClockShot]

The results of the game of chicken between the New Orleans Saints and Drew Brees.................the Saints flinched.

Saints and Drew Brees agree. 5-years, $100 mil., $60 mil. guaranteed. New records.


Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand go.

[Emperor Smeat]

Ravens and Ray Rice agree to a new 5 year, $40 million extension. Had Ray Rice rejected the offer, Ravens would have used their tag on him for $7.7 million next year.

Bears and Matt Forte agree to a new 4 year, $32 million with the Bears prepared to tag him had he rejected it ($7.49 million).

[SammyG]

Forte should be getting more cash. He's so underrated.

[Ermaximus]

Now we wait for Jones-Drew to get a new deal. Scobee got his so I guess that means the Ding Dynasty is over before it even gets a chance to shine. :(

[Gonzo]

Forte should be getting more cash. He's so underrated.

Not really. I doubt he will be performing at the same level on the back end of that deal. It's just the business of it all.

[SammyG]

Met Trumaine Johnson today at the rec center, he started randomly running on the treadmill next to me. Definitely sweet, talked to him for a bit and even got a pic with him.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l248/Sammy_GD/photo.jpg

[Nark Order]

Dashing Goldson and the 9ers couldn't reach a long term deal for this season so he'll be working under the franchise tag. I can see why he feels like he deserves it, but maybe he should play one more solid year without knocking out any of his own teammates.

[RP]

Met Trumaine Johnson today at the rec center, he started randomly running on the treadmill next to me. Definitely sweet, talked to him for a bit and even got a pic with him.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l248/Sammy_GD/photo.jpg

:heart:

[Krimzon7]

Dashing Goldson and the 9ers couldn't reach a long term deal for this season so he'll be working under the franchise tag. I can see why he feels like he deserves it, but maybe he should play one more solid year without knocking out any of his own teammates.

Then what happens if he hurts himself? Will your beloved team pay his ass then? The Franchise tag is pure shit.

[Nark Order]

Well, apparently they offered him a couple options for a long term deal but it wasn't up to snuff. He's been a great asset to us but he's also made quite a bit of mistakes. One of those mistakes probably cost us the NFC Championship. I can see why we aren't keen on pumping unlimited money into the guy.

[Gonzo]

Alex Smith throwing the ball straight into the ground cost the 49ers the NFC Championship.

I've said this anytime I've discussed that game but if the 49ers had a quarterback I don't think the Giants even get close.

[Innovator]

FOOTBALL

[Nark Order]

Well yeah, but in the context of the game, that was a pretty costly mistake that could've maybe led to victory if it had happened the other way. Same thing with the Kyle Williams stuff. They aren't the reasons we lost... But we still might've won had they not happened.

[Krimzon7]

If Michael Crabtree wasn't such a pussy who couldn't finish a game/season, then the backup who fumbled punt returns wouldn't cost them the game

[Emperor Smeat]

If Kyle Williams just called a fair catch, the fumble doesn't occur.

He barely got any space to run because of the excellent Giants return coverage and the field is pretty muddy that he slips after running a bit which helped cause the fumble to occur.

[Nark Order]

Yeah, pretty much. Everyone goes "you can't blame Kyle Williams because Alex Smith didn't convert a 3rd down the entire game." Which is a valid point. The point still stands though that we probably would've won had Kyle Williams not totally fucked up. Again, not the reason we lost per say in the grand scheme of things, but we still probably would've won had he not done that. Situational context is important.

[Nark Order]

Well, not probably. But they would've had a great chance. Let's be honest though here, nobody wanted to win that game.

[Gonzo]

Yeah, pretty much. Everyone goes "you can't blame Kyle Williams because Alex Smith didn't convert a 3rd down the entire game." Which is a valid point. The point still stands though that we probably would've won had Kyle Williams not totally fucked up. Again, not the reason we lost per say in the grand scheme of things, but we still probably would've won had he not done that. Situational context is important.

That was basically my point. Sure, it's easy to point to Kyle Williams fumbles, which let's face it, were extremely costly in the framework of the game.

But, what I took away from the game, was how many times Alex Smith just made a poor throw/play. I think the 49ers could have put that game away on a few different drives.

Then again...

ELI MANNING

[Innovator]

Say it louder Gonzo, you can't hear you over the confetti, Lombardi trophy, and being Super Bowl MVP.

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/10/54/21/2278486/13/628x471.jpg

[DaveBrawl]

I think we should all send Kyle Williams and Alex Smith a thank you card just for that picture.

[screech]

I can get you a deal on cards.

[James Steele]

Fuck, I hate the Giants.

[Team Sheep]

Hurry up September. This period of shit sport is killing me.

[Ermaximus]

Time to get my fantasy draft ready. I'm in a 2 keeper league and I'm definately keeping Cam Newton, but I don't know who to keep between Steve Smith (Panthers) and Andre Johnson.

[DaveBrawl]

I'd say Johnson.

[Ermaximus]

I'd say Johnson.

Leaning towards this since Schaub is good, but Johnson did shit for me last year aside from sitting on the bench injured.

[Emperor Smeat]

If you have Newton probably a good idea to keep Smith over Johnson considering I believe Smith was Newton's #1 target for TDs (1/3 of all the TD passes Newton had) although Johnson did have a down year and Newton ate up a lot of the team's TDs from rushing instead of passing.

[Triple Naitch]

Yeah, but if Newton has a shit year then so will Steve Smith.

[McLegend]

I think calling The Eagles a dynasty is a joke. Especially the Michael Vick lead Eagles.

However I do believe The Eagles are going to be really good this year. I don't remember what I thought about them last year. I might have thought the same thing last year and if I did that would classify as a big failure. I do believe they are a legit Super Bowl contender this year.

If they don't get to the NFC championship game then Andy Reid can't be brought back.

[RP]

You keep Johnson. Make Smith a priority to draft. Its not like he's going in the first round.

[Ermaximus]

You keep Johnson. Make Smith a priority to draft. Its not like he's going in the first round.

RP, you'd be surprised by some of the guys I'm in a draft with. One year one of them kept Janikowski as a keeper over Adrian Peterson and Reggie Wayne. Explain to me the logic there?

Also, I'm looking at my team setup like this, if all goes right that is.

QB-Cam Newton
QB-Matt Schaub
RB-Matt Forte
RB-Fred Jackson
RB-Jamal Charles
RB-Rashard Jennings
WR-Andre Johnson
WR-Steve Smith (Panthers)
WR-Eric FUCKING Decker
WR-Antonio Brown
TE-Rob Gronkowski
TE-Vernon Davis
K-Josh Scobee
K-Matt Prater
DST-Ravens
DST-Jaguars

Granted that's if none of these guys get snagged first. My biggest issue is that I suck at drafting running backs. Every year I get maybe 1 good one in the draft, but the other three always either get hurt or don't play and I'm stuck playing the waiver wire. Any suggestions for RB's RP?

[Kris P Lettus]

Like 9 days till the Hall of Fame game..

Saints finally signed Drew Brees.. Even with the off the field bs this year, I'm still very optimistic..

[Gonzo]

NEW YORK GIANTS > YOUR FAVORITE TEAM

[CSL]

Terrell Thomas has "unspecified" ACL injury, same knee as last years tear :-\

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>With the Giants' penchant for injuries I'm gonna just assume it's a torn ACL again. And in an even more eerie occurrence, Jonathan Goff tore his ACL again as well and was cut by the Redskins.</font>

[Gonzo]

Eh, I used to get all worried about injuries but after last year I'm not going to sweat it.

Speaking of CBs, I want to see Justin Tryon make the team. Fairly certain he played the whole Miami game last year with a broken forearm. That's the kind of tough bastards I want to see on the squad.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>And Jayron Hosley got carted off the field too. Looks like another year of constant cornerback injuries. Mother of god.</font>

[Gonzo]

I like having you around Vito. Feel like I don't even need to wrack my nerves over anything Giants related because you take care of that for me.

[Evil Vito]

Eh, I used to get all worried about injuries but after last year I'm not going to sweat it.

Speaking of CBs, I want to see Justin Tryon make the team. Fairly certain he played the whole Miami game last year with a broken forearm. That's the kind of tough bastards I want to see on the squad.

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah Tryon seems solid. If I were making a pre-season 53 man roster prediction (maybe I will) I'm pretty certain he'd be on it.

I know they won the SB last year with all the injuries but it still sucks to see it. I feel terrible for Thomas if his ACL is torn again. I believe that'd be his 3rd torn ACL overall...pretty much eliminates any chance he gets a big contract again since the Giants would use their out to void the final 3 years of his current deal.

Also a million defensive injuries means we have to hope for the offense to be as lethal as it was last year. Not saying it can't be but it wouldn't hurt to have some balance.</font>

[Gonzo]

I thought the secondary played solid throughout last year but they got blown up in some games.

It all starts up front anyway. Need to really get the performance out of the defensive line. That's something I can say that we Giants fans have had the luxury of not worrying about for quite some time.

I think the defense has a lot of nice young players. I love some of the young linebackers the Giants have.

[Gonzo]

Damn, talking about this has me all amped up for some football. LET THE SEASON BEGIN ALREADY.

[RP]

Oh yah Tryon. The guy Jim Caldwell cut so we could lose games more effectively. Highlight of the Colts season imo. Cut a guy for no reason at all. The same guy that was the second best CB on the team

[FearedSanctity]

Peyton apparently has been playing CB in practice to help coach up Osweiler and the WRs. Love this man

[Nark Order]

May the 9ers and the Browns be successful. I'm ready to begin.

[Skippord]

He's glorious :'(

May have to go to training camp, then again it's 400 degrees and they don't allow chairs

[jbizness]

Somedays i wish i had been a Giants fan.. fuckin Tebow! :lol:

This is the best damn time of the year when we got football, though

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Somedays=Sundays.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Tyler Sash slapped with a 4 game suspension.</font>

[Ermaximus]

At this point, I'm hoping the Jags trade/cut MJD. He's not going to get a new contract and I'm tired of hearing about it so he just needs to suck it up, play the 2 years on his deal, and earn his 5 million a year until 2015 and then leave, or just asked to be traded.

[DaveBrawl]

Peyton could use the help. :shifty:

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It certainly is a frustrating situation for you, Ermaximus. Luckily you have the 17 other teams you root for to take your mind off of it.

[Ermaximus]

Peyton could use the help. :shifty:

Give me Erick Decker and MJD is yours. :shifty:

[FearedSanctity]

Decker is only useful if you actually have someone to throw to him...

[RP]

When did Stephen A Smith become such a huge Giant fan?

[James Steele]

When did Stephen A Smith become such a huge Giant fan?

When they won the SuperBowl again. Stephen A. Smith is such a sack of shit and annoying cunt.

[Gonzo]

One of the guys on the local radio show changed his allegiance to the Giants from the Cowboys this past season after their Superbowl win. He insisted it had nothing to do with the Giants success but rather the Cowboys ineptitude. All the callers rag on him unmercifully now and call him "Turncoat Cady."

[Innovator]

I really hope Dr. Andrews comes back with good news for TT, the other two doctors didn't think he needed surgery.

[SammyG]

THE RAMS ARE GONNA WIN THE SUPERBOWL

[Nark Order]

No they aren't.

[DaveBrawl]

Denver aside I would actually love to see that Sammy.

[Emperor Smeat]

Browns got sold for about $1 billion with $700 million paid upfront and the rest as a later payment.

Bills and Redskins cleared of any Bounty-gate involvement from the time Gregg Williams helped coached both teams defenses before going to the Saints. Doesn't mean it never occurred there since a few claims have stated it did but the NFL's official stance was it didn't and there wasn't enough evidence for a punishment regardless.

[Droford]

the browns aent worth 5 cents..let aloe a billion

[Triple Naitch]

How do you put aloe on a billion dollars?

[DaveBrawl]

With a lot of help.

[screech]

When they won the SuperBowl again. Stephen A. Smith is such a sack of shit and annoying cunt.

When I see him on TV, I can't change the channel fast enough.

[owenbrown]

THE RAMS ARE NOT EVEN GONNA MAKE THE PLAYOFFS

Fixed.

[RP]

Here's a name to remember. Jerry Hughes

[Nark Order]

Mike Holmgren might be totally fucked. The only thing stopping new management from canning him is all the money left on the table. I wouldn't be surprised if they just let him collect the money on his couch though. The new owner payed 1 billion for the Browns, what's another couple mil?

[Emperor Smeat]

Some potentially bad news involving refs as their union and the NFL still divided over a new deal which lead to the NFL stating the Hall of Fame game and potentially the entire pre-season could be played with replacement refs.

A deal has to be done within the next month or else replacement refs would be used in actual games for the season.

The NFL also is disallowing the media from publishing the names of the replacement officials so they don't get blacklisted by the union for future employment in the league. They also don't want them to start comparing the lack of experience the replacements have compared to the pro ones as part of any complaints about the quality of reffing dropping.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

somehow I don't think withholding the names of the scab refs will be enough to conceal their identities

unless they start reffing with masks on

[Supreme Olajuwon]

which would actually be awesome

[Skippord]

why don't they referee with masks on anyway? that would be both fucking rad and pretty practical

[owenbrown]

I think one of the scabs needs to hit the gym in order to look like Hochuli

[owenbrown]

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[Crimson]

The day the Cowboys get a bad call and cost them a game is the only time i'll care about refs

[Corndad]

This Curtis Martin HOF speech is one of the saddest things I've ever heard.

[Krimzon7]

Andy Reids kid found dead

http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp12/story/_/id/8235884/andy-reid-oldest-son-garrett-reid-found-dead-philadelphia-eagles-camp

[Krimzon7]

Garrett Reid was sentenced to two years in a state drug rehabilitation program in July 2008 after being caught with 89 prescription pills inside his rectum at the Montgomery County Prison.

This of course occured after his brother and himself get doped up and damn near killed somebody with a car. This sucks to hear.

[CSL]

Devin Thomas retiring at 25

[Kris P Lettus]

I dont like stephen a smith either but he is from ny cause he is a huge knicks fan.. He might be talking more about the g-men due to his bigger role on espn now..

[Kris P Lettus]

Also we are only 5 and a half hours away from FOOTBALL..

WHO DAT

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Genuinely surprised that Devin Thomas retired. He would have been a contributor on special teams for the Bears or any other team he wound up on.

Thanks for that play in the NFC Title game.</font>

[Krimzon7]

<font color=goldenrod>Genuinely surprised that Devin Thomas retired. He would have been a contributor on special teams for the Bears or any other team he wound up on.

Thanks for that play in the NFC Title game.</font>

Training Camp is brutal. and if youre only gonna be going through all that for a special teams role...then fuck that. I applaud him, as somebody who decided to leave the game while young and realtively healthy, I know how tough peer pressure can be.

[Triple Naitch]

Can't say I'm really surprised about Reid's son dying. Kinda wondering why he was up in Lehigh for training camp.

[Kris P Lettus]

It was his oldest son, who was phillys strength and condition coach, not his son with the pill problems..

[Gonzo]

Both his sons had drug problems. And his son wasn't the coach, he helped the team in an unofficial capacity.

[Kris P Lettus]

Stop getting technical and throwing "facts" around..

[Crimson]

He would sell drugs in his upscale neighborhood and he loved it he said. It was years ago though, wonder what the cause of death was.

[Triple Naitch]

It was only like 2007 when he got in all that trouble. Reid was pretty much ready to walk away from football because of the whole thing.

[Krimzon7]

Both sons going to the slammer. It wreaked of poor fathering or some such guilt that he could have been feeling. Yeah this was the son who got caught with a bunch of pills up his ass in the pokey. Sucks to hear but it seems that he was there for only one purpose. Ease of surveillance.

[Kris P Lettus]

Like the new uni's..

Oftence already shredding the cards D..

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>BREAKING NEWS: Kevin Kolb still sucks</font>

[Kris P Lettus]

And Sed Ellis just broke him..

NO BOUNTY NEEDED

[RoXer]

omg just hit your target

[Emperor Smeat]

<font color=goldenrod>BREAKING NEWS: Kevin Kolb still sucks</font>

Cards should just consider having Skelton as their starter for the season considering Kolb got hurt again and played badly for the few plays he got.

Then again probably better to just offer Kurt Warner a "blank check" to un-retire considering the team was only good when he played there.

[Kris P Lettus]

Kolb is the Ryan Leaf of free agency..

[RoXer]

Do I make my post on the QB situation of the Cardinals now or do I wait for the season to start?

I'll wait. And then just post it in that thread.

And the most likely quote the thing over and over because it will never change.

[OssMan]

Nobody in this thread can read

[RoXer]

Good point about the Redskins ossman

[OssMan]

da rayed skeeyins

[Kris P Lettus]

I can andy reid

[Kris P Lettus]

Mort is reporting Vilmas suspension might get reduced to 8 games..

[RP]

Mort is reporting Vilmas suspension might get reduced to 8 games..

That's a huge win for the Players. Vilma would be a hero to them.

[Kris P Lettus]

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=8238319

[Krimzon7]

Vilma should push forward with the suit. such a quick and hefty reduction in his suspension should help any halfwit lawyer to get the money outta Goddell.

[RP]

He should demand the coaches get half off too

[Supreme Olajuwon]

what's half off an indefinite suspension

[Krimzon7]

what's half off an indefinite suspension

I read the post then looked at the avatar.

I would push for reinstatement at the end of this season.

[DaveBrawl]

what's half off an indefinite suspension

A 51% chance of reinstatement?

[Emperor Smeat]

Seahawks currently in negotiations for Terrell Owens after he had a good workout for the team.

Jets had a pretty large brawl during training camp to the point of almost come close to spilling out to the fans section of the practice field. Almost had a second brawl occurring near the end of practice but was defused quickly.

[Krimzon7]

Seahawks currently in negotiations for Terrell Owens after he had a good workout for the team.

Jets had a pretty large brawl during training camp to the point of almost come close to spilling out to the fans section of the practice field. Almost had a second brawl occurring near the end of practice but was defused quickly.

TO to Seattle is awesome. He will be a producer there. He will make the receiving corps better too. He may divide the locker room but he'll be there on the field

[Emperor Smeat]

Pats and Saints going to hold a joint practice for this week's training camp leading into their preseason game mostly for 2 reasons.

Belichick is heading to Andy Reid's son funeral and might not be back in time for the preseason game while the Saints have asked for some help with their preparations due to the shortage of experience on their coaching staff.

[SammyG]

lol T.O. is a Seahawk. I don't expect him to even make the team

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Best way to ease a new QB into a new system as he becomes the starter for the first time in his career is obviously to sign TO.

[RP]

Its the only way

[Krimzon7]

Trial by fire. Being a Bengal Fan, I remember that in TO's last season in the NFL, he led the team in receiving and touchdowns. He was the go to target. He tore an ACL and just ran a 4.45 40 yard dash.

He can make a receiving corps better with his experience. I think that he's humbled a great deal. He wasn't really a cancer in the Natti, we had chad johnson for that. I believe in Terrell Owens.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

That's true. He was well behaved in Cincy. But I'm pretty sure Chad balanced him out. Plus they threw all the time that year. Pretty sure Seattle's gonna give the ball to Lynch a LOT this season.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Trying to decide if I want to go watch Tebow on Friday. Tickets on Stubhub are going for $5.

[SammyG]

Worth it

[Krimzon7]

Trying to decide if I want to go watch Tebow on Friday. Tickets on Stubhub are going for $5.

You should go. How often do you get to be that close to Jesus Tebow?

[Krimzon7]

That's true. He was well behaved in Cincy. But I'm pretty sure Chad balanced him out. Plus they threw all the time that year. Pretty sure Seattle's gonna give the ball to Lynch a LOT this season.

Yes, Lynch will get a great deal of action, after he serves that suspension. Even with that, you have to believe that Carrol will want to give that play action pass a lot of love.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I do have to say, of all the overblown nonsense stories that ESPN & Co. have tried to shove down our throats over the years, the Tebow story has maintained my interest. I don't know why.

[Krimzon7]

I do have to say, of all the overblown nonsense stories that ESPN & Co. have tried to shove down our throats over the years, the Tebow story has maintained my interest. I don't know why.

he's charismatic and cheesy. He's not supposed to win, but he always does. It's not ESPN that makes you interested, it's the fact that he's a walking paradox. He's a literal dichotomy of what a Quarterback should be and what a leader is.

I've tried to hate him for four years when he was at UF and was killing my beloved Georgia Bulldogs. But I just can't the kid is a pure winner and I relate to winners.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Fuck I can't wait for Friday. Even if it is a meaningless preseason game, there's just something about seeing the Giants for the first time after the longass NFL offseason.</font>

[Ermaximus]

<font color=goldenrod>Fuck I can't wait for Friday. Even if it is a meaningless preseason game, there's just something about seeing the Giants for the first time after the longass NFL offseason.</font>

I'll be at that game and get to watch Eli and Cruz play for all of 1 drive and then sit on the bench!

I am however looking forward to seeing how Chad Henne, Rashard Jennings, and Carson Palmer's little brother play though. :y:

[Innovator]

I want to imagine the Jets brawl at camp breaking down into Sanchez and Tebow squaring off in the middle of a brawl, Hollywoodesque.

[Innovator]

I want to see which receiver will step up for the third receiver spot

[Ermaximus]

I want to see which receiver will step up for the third receiver spot

Cromartie. Oh wait, he's the 2nd best WR on the team according to him.

[Gonzo]

<font color=goldenrod>Fuck I can't wait for Friday. Even if it is a meaningless preseason game, there's just something about seeing the Giants for the first time after the longass NFL offseason.</font>

#ALLIN

[Hanso Amore]

Kolb is the Ryan Leaf of free agency..

He was traded, not a Free agent, Faggot Fat Tits

[Krimzon7]

hard knocks made it's debut tonight.

[Evil Vito]

I want to see which receiver will step up for the third receiver spot

I'd say Hixon is the early favorite as long as he stays healthy. The 3rd receiver spot is practically a starting spot with the Giants' offensive scheme, so I don't see Coughlin rushing a rookie into the spot unless he busts out with some huge plays in preseason.

[Triple Naitch]

Thought Hard Knocks was gonna be OnDemand ASAP, but it's not. Gotta wait til tonight to watch it.

[CSL]

saw Hard Knocks as well as some "Where Are They Now" ep that I think aired last year in place of an actual season that I had no idea existed, pumped for "football" now

[Triple Naitch]

Damn @ Ryan Tannehill's wife.

[Innovator]

FOOTBALL

[Triple Naitch]

Also didn't realize that local legend Pat Devlin is the #4 QB for Miami. Dude was an absolute beast in high school. Shattered all of Joe Namath's state records. Was all set to go to the U before Coker got fired.

[Krimzon7]

Well, Denver takes the field tonight, Peyton Manning will be on the field for the first time in a long time. I get the feeling that Tim Tebow's curse will make it's debut tonight too.

[Krimzon7]

It's already raining. It's an omen of ominous proportions.

[Krimzon7]

Didn't realize that San Diego made such smart additions to their offense this offseason. I suppose it would be hard to see any other team with Peyton Manning and Tim Tebow raping our eyes and ears all off season.

[CSL]

NFL Network's "Redzone-esque" coverage of these preseason games is great

[CSL]

Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie just attempted to physically end the life of Byron Leftwich in the 1st quarter of the 1st preseason game

[CSL]

and here goes Peyton

[Krimzon7]

and here goes Peyton

how many interceptions has he thrown?

[CSL]

feel like you already know the answer to this but one, tip drill pick, looked good in his only drive

[Emperor Smeat]

Backup QBs for the Pats looking decent so far although Mallett does need more development. Defense has looked great especially the new guys although some concerns about the secondary might still be the weak link and exploitable like last year.

[Krimzon7]

feel like you already know the answer to this but one, tip drill pick, looked good in his only drive

No sarcasm about Peyton Manning yet. I actually want him back healthy and meeting Tom Brady in the AFC Championship. I've gotten texts touting RG III has he looked good? What about the Bengals? Can you be my eyes and ears for a bit?

[CSL]

missed the Redskins early start and they haven't been shown on this NFL Network switching between games gimmick, they've mentioned him looking good and RGIII-to-Garcon looking good tho, Bengals play tomorrow (they keep reminding us since it's a Tebow game)

[Krimzon7]

missed the Redskins early start and they haven't been shown on this NFL Network switching between games gimmick, they've mentioned him looking good and RGIII-to-Garcon looking good tho, Bengals play tomorrow (they keep reminding us since it's a Tebow game)

Jesus, I'm a little too excited. I thought they orange and black attack played today. I feel a bit better. I'm absolutely elated that football is back. I've had a lot of doubts about Garcon, but it's good to hear that the 'skins Offense looked good.

*Swallows a lot of pride* Thank you, CSL.

[Skippord]

pretty pstoked about Peyton Manning being here, looked pretty awesome you guys

[Krimzon7]

So once I got home and watched the highlights, his fundamentals look pretty good. Michael Vick is the most fragile football player ever. Big Ben Rapelisberger is a tough sumbitch. RGIII looked okay, but damn good for his first NFL Start.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Fuck it, gonna quickly guess the Giants' Opening Day 53 before tonight's game. Most of them are locks, but whatever:

QB (2): Manning, Carr
RB (4): Bradshaw, Ware, Wilson, Scott
FB (1): Hynoski
WR (6): Nicks, Cruz, Hixon, Randle, Jernigan, David Douglas (fuck off Barden)
TE (3): Bennett, Pascoe, Adrien Robinson
OL (9): Beatty, Boothe, Baas, Snee, Diehl, Locklear, Petrus, Brewer, Mosley

DE (4): Tuck, Pierre-Paul, Umenyiora, Trattou
DT (4): Canty, Joseph, Bernard, Markus Kuhn (surprisingly beats out Shaun Rogers)
LB (8): Boley, Kiwanuka, Blackburn, Rivers, Jones, Williams, Herzlich, Paysinger
CB (5): Webster, Thomas, Amukamara, Hosley, Tryon
S (4): Rolle, Phillips, Will Hill, Janzen Jackson

K (1): Tynes
P (1): Weatherford
LS (1): DeOssie

Suspended (1): Sash
PUP (2): Beckum, Sintim

8 LBs may be a bit much, but fuck it's a hard choice since so many of them contribute on special teams. Paysinger is the one most likely to be cut in favor of another DB if necessary - although maybe he gets spared the first 4 games until Sash returns from suspension to make up the numbers.

#ALLIN</font>

[Krimzon7]

with the rash of DB injuries, there's no way the G Men carry that many LB's. I would expect 6 Linebackers and two extra defensive backs.

But this is a great little pickem

[Evil Vito]

The Thomas injury made me consider an extra DB since he could be ready anywhere from Opening Day to October. If the new IR rule got approved (where once a year you can IR somebody and pull them off of it) Thomas could be used for that while saving a roster spot for an extra DB.

Also thought about only going with 3 DE's under the idea that Kiwi would pretty much be the 4th DE.

[Ermaximus]

Hey Vito, who would make a better impact on my fantasy team as my #2 WR? I've got Andre Johnson #1, but have the 3rd pick and am debating between Julio Jones and Victor Cruz. No bias please bro.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Happy Who Day, everyone!

[Krimzon7]

Hey Vito, who would make a better impact on my fantasy team as my #2 WR? I've got Andre Johnson #1, but have the 3rd pick and am debating between Julio Jones and Victor Cruz. No bias please bro.

Julio Jones is slated to have a blockbuster year. I would not pass him up.

[Krimzon7]

Happy Who Day, everyone!

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[Krimzon7]

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[Evil Vito]

Hey Vito, who would make a better impact on my fantasy team as my #2 WR? I've got Andre Johnson #1, but have the 3rd pick and am debating between Julio Jones and Victor Cruz. No bias please bro.

As much as I love Cruz, Jones is probably the safer bet. There's just no guarantee Cruz will be able to bust out a million 70 yard TDs again.

[CSL]

Julio Jones looked like a beast last night

[Kris P Lettus]

3 Bengal starters down with injuries already..

[Krimzon7]

3 Bengal starters down with injuries already..

jeez:-\

[Evil Vito]

LOL @ the ending of the Giants game. They can't possibly let these replacement refs into a regular season game.

[SammyG]

Which Bengals got hurt?

[OssMan]

Fuck it, gonna quickly guess the Giants' Opening Day 53 before tonight's game. Most of them are locks, but whatever:

QB (2): Manning, Carr
RB (4): Bradshaw, Ware, Wilson, Scott
FB (1): Hynoski
WR (6): Nicks, Cruz, Hixon, Randle, Jernigan, David Douglas (fuck off Barden)
TE (3): Bennett, Pascoe, Adrien Robinson
OL (9): Beatty, Boothe, Baas, Snee, Diehl, Locklear, Petrus, Brewer, Mosley

DE (4): Tuck, Pierre-Paul, Umenyiora, Trattou
DT (4): Canty, Joseph, Bernard, Markus Kuhn (surprisingly beats out Shaun Rogers)
LB (8): Boley, Kiwanuka, Blackburn, Rivers, Jones, Williams, Herzlich, Paysinger
CB (5): Webster, Thomas, Amukamara, Hosley, Tryon
S (4): Rolle, Phillips, Will Hill, Janzen Jackson

K (1): Tynes
P (1): Weatherford
LS (1): DeOssie

Suspended (1): Sash
PUP (2): Beckum, Sintim

8 LBs may be a bit much, but fuck it's a hard choice since so many of them contribute on special teams. Paysinger is the one most likely to be cut in favor of another DB if necessary - although maybe he gets spared the first 4 games until Sash returns from suspension to make up the numbers.

#ALLIN
I don't think I will ever be able to make a prediction of a team's opening day roster in any sport ever

[Krimzon7]

Which Bengals got hurt?

Travelle Wharton, Offensive Lineman May be done for season
Ray Maualuga, Linebacker sprained his knee Carlos Dunlap, Defensive Lineman left with an undisclosed knee injury and finally, Taylor Mays, former Souther California stud and current defensive back left with symptoms of a concussion.

[Ermaximus]

LOL @ the ending of the Giants game. They can't possibly let these replacement refs into a regular season game.

Yeah, those scab refs were pretty terrible. Between that and the muffed punts/kicks on both sides, that game was pretty ridiculous.

Was totally loving the Palmer to Robiske connection last night though.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>If you think I'm pessimistic, you should read the Giants message board. So many people panicking about how Blaine Gabbert shredded the Giants' first string defense in the first drive of the year. It's laughable, really.

The only preseason game I remotely care about results-wise is Week 3, when you'd hope that your first string guys look ready to go. And even then all that really matters in pre-season is getting out of there healthy.</font>

[Nark Order]

The Vikings should be embarrassed, honestly.

[owenbrown]

9 seconds into the game, Titans give up a pick six. Jeez. :nono:

[owenbrown]

also I wish the refs and the NFL come to a deal soon. Can't deal with these scab refs in the regular season.

[owenbrown]

Matt Hasselbeck sucks. That is all.

[CSL]

so after saying he was going to get arrested this weekend on Hard Knocks, Chad Johnson actually went and got arrested this weekend

[Skippord]

I fucking love the Seahawks new uniforms

[owenbrown]

congrats to the Houston Texans on winning the AFC South division title before the season even begins

[Splaya]

Love how Chad Johnson headbutted his girlfriend....awesome

[Krimzon7]

I fucking love the Seahawks new uniforms

THey look pretty good. Nowhere as busy as I thought it would look. The road uniforms will be the true litmus test. I wanna see them in action.

While we're on uniforms, let me go on record to say that I hate the way those flywire two tone collars look on road whites.

[Krimzon7]

Nothing in my life makes me happier than seeing Chad Johnson in dire straits, hours away from getting released from another team, and struggling to get a job.


I'm happy as a pig in shit right now.

[Krimzon7]

This bitch tripping over a box of condoms? BITCH COME THE FUCK ON!!! You are married to a pro athlete. Infidelity is about as common as leaving the toilet seat up.

Bitches will never learn.





*this is in no way an endorsement of Chad Johnson as I hate him with every inch of my existence.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Fairly certain Chad's career is over. He's getting on in years, looked clueless last year, and is off to a cracking start this year. Can't really have any sympathy for a guy arrested for domestic violence. I thought his chances of making the Dolphins were pretty slim to begin with, but this just seals it.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Andrew Luck makes his debut today. RP's got his towel at the ready.</font>

[Requiem]

LOL LUCK TO BROWN, TOUCHDOWWWWWNNNNNNNNN

first throw in the NFL

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>GOAT = confirmed</font>

[Innovator]

Has RP's erection gone away yet?

[jbizness]

Ocho headbutts a woman, the Pats want Plax and the Bills still suck.. not sure im done laughing yet.. thanks dudes for diverting from a shitty Jets performance on Friday

[Emperor Smeat]

This bitch tripping over a box of condoms? BITCH COME THE FUCK ON!!! You are married to a pro athlete. Infidelity is about as common as leaving the toilet seat up.

Bitches will never learn.


*this is in no way an endorsement of Chad Johnson as I hate him with every inch of my existence.

Same woman who ended up causing Antoine Walker to become broke when they divorced. Later it was found out she was "hiding" a lot of his money claimed as gifts and refused to give any of it back as part of Walker's bankruptcy case.

Although safe to assume Chad's career or at least in Miami is going to be over next week assuming the stuff TMZ has reported ends up being true.

[Krimzon7]

Chad Johnson cements his legacy as the stupid motherfucker I knew him to be all along. I'm content and ready to dole out 'told you so's' all day tomorrow.