NFL 2012 Off-Season Thread

[D Mac]

Dammit we have to wait another 6 months. :(

Get some players Chiefs.

[D Mac]

lol WTF 2 minutes apart

[Nark Order]

lol. Somebody delete mine. D-Mac decided to be a huge fucking asshole.

[Nark Order]

Also, Where will the almighty Peyton go? Let's spin the wheel, gentlemen.

[James Steele]

I am praying that the Dallas Cowboys hure a competent GM.

[RP]

Honestly. If Peyton fully recovers, I think he's going to have the biggest FU season of all time. The touchdown record could fall. I think if the Colts were smart, they trade the number one , get a ton of athletic defensive players like Burfect from ASU and a 1st round corner like the kid from LSU, Morris Claiborne. He could be had with a top 10 pick, Burfect will be in the 20's, so if they can get two first rounders this year, they could really build an outstanding defense. Chuck Pagano is a defensive guy.

Scenario:

Indy trades the number one pick to the Browns for there two first rounders, a 2nd rounder ( 36) and Joe Haden. Now the Colts have the number 4, 22, 33 and 36th pick in this years draft. Your starting DB's are set Haden is fantastic and Jerraud Powers is one of the most underrated corners in the league. With the 4th pick, you take RG3. With the 22nd, maybe Mark Barron, Saftey from Alabama, or Michael Brockers , DE from LSU, or maybe you grab a playmaking receiver like Michael Floyd or RG3's Baylor WR, Kendall Wright. Or you can sure up your Oline. The 33 and 36 picks will net you someone really good. For instance, Vontaze Burfict is a classic top 10 talent that's gunna drop because of discipline questions. He could be there at 33, ripe for the picking. You might even see Dont'a Hightower, ILB from Bama, available.

The Colts could really restock big time if they trade this number one.

[Gonzo]

There is a snowball's chance in hell Indy trades out of the number one spot.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Much like after their last Super Bowl win, I think the Giants are going to lose a ton of guys to free agency. Manningham immediately springs to mind, as does Kiwanuka. Terrell Thomas is a free agent but missing the season this year may actually help the Giants...he might have to take a 1 year deal to prove his health.

I'm sure we'll also have some more Osi drama. Their cap situation was a mess this year already so I have no idea what to expect come the 2012 season. But my faith in Jerry Reese has been restored. Looking forward to seeing how it goes. Giantsssssss</font> :love:

[Gonzo]

I think Kiwi will be back. Manningham is probably going to leave. I think the Giants will gladly let Osi go. They won't pay him what he wants for how long he wants. I think Jacobs is gone. Terrell Thomas will be back.

The Giants most definitely need to draft one of three positions: OL, TE, or LB. Or maybe they'll just draft another DE and play DE at every position.

[Splaya]

Lions will be busy, as we will have to stock up with better defenders and shore up the offensive line in the draft. Also, do not be surprised if they decide to draft a RB as well as Best is more than likely dead, and Leshoure will be coming back from a torn achilles. Oh and the fact that Kevin Smith is either a beast for 45 minutes and then dies

[Nark Order]

Face it, RP. Peyton is going to the 49ers.

And no, I don't actually believe that.

[Skippord]

kind of want the Broncos to draft Vontaze Burfict based solely on his cool name, really hope they can get either Dre' Kirkpatrick or Janoris Jenkins though

[RoXer]

Everyone be sure to post on the first page about what their favorite team should do this offseason and then for the rest of the thread only comment on headline news

[RoXer]

Nvm, you guys are on it

[Innovator]

Tom Brady may not have walked away with a Super Bowl win Sunday, but he can rest assured that wife Gisele Bundchen will always play a solid defense in his name.

Shortly after Brady and the Patriots lost out to Eli Manning and the Giants 21-17, the quarterback was reportedly spotted just sitting and staring at the floor of the Patriots locker room in shock for nearly 20 minutes.

Bundchen, on the other hand, was seen stalking moodily away from the stadium to meet him with an entourage trailing behind her in a video obtained by TheInsider.com.

When fans heckled the supermodel, crying out "Eli rules!" and "Eli owns your husband," Bundchen kept a tight smile on her face and kept walking.

But while waiting for the elevator, she could keep in her frustrations no longer.

"You have to catch the ball when you're supposed to catch the ball," she said angrily to those around her.

"My husband cannot f--king throw the ball and catch the ball at the same time. I can't believe they dropped the ball so many times."

In the last moments of the game, Brady had attempted a Hail Mary pass to a waiting Aaron Hernandez in the end zone, but it was swatted away by the Giants.

But by the time Bundchen, 31, met up with Brady, her focus was less on bashing the Patriot receivers who failed to connect with the ball Sunday and more on cheering up a gloomy Brady.

The couple embraced as Bundchen whispered words of encouragement to her husband of nearly two years.

Said Brady in an interview with Boston.com reporters: "You know, we fought to the end. You know, we're very proud of that. Just came up a little bit short."



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/super-bowl-2012-gisele-bundchen-comforts-husband-tom-brady-slams-patriots-receivers-article-1.1017852#ixzz1lcHqNiln

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Congrats to all the Africans enjoying their brand new Patriots swag.

[Nark Order]

To be fair, Lady Brady isn't too far off. Tom Brady can't pass to himself... yet.

[Ermaximus]

Really hope Manningham comes to Jacksonville. I know it's a longshot but, Mike Wallace too.

[MVP]

Some people are actually hoping that Welker isn't re-signed next season after his dropped pass last night.

[Innovator]

Saw a report that Gronkowski and Matt Light were out partying shirtless after the game.

[Reavant]

thats not the appropriate response?...

[Crimson]

Hoping the 'Boys sign a guard in free agency. Grubbs or the guy from the Saints I forgot his name. Then in the draft just focus on defense..secondary, a fat D-tackle, and a rush linebacker.

Maybe switching to a 4-3 defense would be good, but I think Ryan is a 3-4 guy

[DaveWadding]

Peyton Manning to the Cardinals.

[Triple Naitch]

I can totally see Peyton going to the Cardinals or Redskins.

[Nark Order]

Seahawks and the 9ers would be great places for Peyton, IMO. Good defenses, solid lines... DO IT, PEYTON.

[Crimson]

Alex Smith would slit his wrists if they signed Manning

[Droford]

Ray Rice is gonna get FRANCHISED

thats about the only thing for sure I know will happen with the Ravens.

[Gonzo]

Congrats to all the Africans enjoying their brand new Patriots swag.

http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/internet-memes-patriots-t-shirts.jpg

[Boomer]

I had a friend today ask me if Drew Bledsoe still played for the Patriots.

[Nark Order]

Well... Does he?

[Innovator]

Giants took the rabbit's foot Rex had up in his office this season.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I see Kareem McKenzie is one of the Giants' impending free agents. He's gonna be a really tough call actually. He's old and sometimes ineffective, but the line really gelled nicely down the stretch. The Giants could probably try to have Beatty replace him, allowing Diehl to stay at left tackle (where he plays his best IMO) and keep Boothe as a starting guard.

Even though many are calling for the Giants to draft a LB, I there's gonna be a massive logjam there as it is. Goff missed the season so he can probably come back on a 1 year deal and the coaching staff likes him...I'd expect them to give Sintim one more shot too in pre-season. Blackburn is a free agent and was incredible filling in this year, no way does he miss half the season in unemployment. Boley and Kiwi are still there...as are the 4 rookies from this year (Herzlich, Williams, Jones, Paysinger), all of whom showed flashes of brilliance at times.

Can't keep all of 'em, especially if they draft another one. Hate to say it but I think Blackburn is gonna go elsewhere next year...not because the Giants don't want him, but I just think another team is bound to give him more money. Ditto for some of the other quality backups, like Tollefson.</font>

[DaveWadding]

FOX 31 Denver reports that Knowshon Moreno was arrested on drunken driving charges on February 1.

Moreno was driving a Bentley convertible 70MPH in a 45MPH construction zone last Wednesday. After pulling him over, police smelled alcohol on Moreno, and he "did poorly" in sobriety tests. The Bentley's license plate was personalized and read "SAUCED."

[owenbrown]

Tennessee Titans 2012 opponents

Home: Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Pittsburgh Steelers, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions

Away: Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, San Diego Chargers, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings

looking at 8-8 at best

[Kris P Lettus]

Saints need to resign Brees and Carl Nicks imediately.. Colston and Meachum will be big losses on offense but should be replaceable.. I think Vilma will be gone and Dunbar will be the new starting MLB.. I love Vilma but we can keep Dunbar for a fraction of the price and he can play all LB positions, not just MLB.. I hope they resign Tracy Porter but I could see letting him go and getting a CB from the Rams or the Dolphins since that's where out DC and new DB coaches are from..

Most important is signing Brees, Nicks, and Dunbar then go from there..

[Kris P Lettus]

And get Peyton Manning to come in and backup Brees..

:shifty:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Not sure what the Saints' cap situation is but I think Carl Nicks might get one of, if not the largest offensive lineman contract of all time. That in addition to Brees getting an enormous deal as well. Wonder if they'll be able to afford both without anybody taking a hometown discount.</font>

[OssMan]

Tennessee Titans 2012 opponents

Home: Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Pittsburgh Steelers, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions

Away: Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, San Diego Chargers, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings

looking at 8-8 at best
Is this it? Is this finally the post where owenbrown reveals his allegiance to an NFL team? Or is he just spontaneously pointing out the Tennessee Titans schedule.

[Innovator]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/419365_124517034337636_100003380217607_110484_138671797_n.jpg
I hate work.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>It's on no fewer than 8 channels here.</font> :love:

[Droford]

no more Run Ricky Run in the NFL.

Retired for good apparently.

Now the Ravens need a spot RB. damnit.

[Droford]

Tennessee Titans 2012 opponents

Home: Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Pittsburgh Steelers, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions

Away: Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, San Diego Chargers, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings

looking at 8-8 at best

I see 9-7, they should beat all of the non playoff teams from this year except the Chargers since its in SD.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>ROFL @ Andre Brown during the City Hall SB ceremony</font> :love:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Looks like the Giants already took care of one of their 21 impending free agents, Steve Weatherford is about to sign a multi-year deal. Love that guy.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

Patriots top priority is resigning Welker because regardless of the critical drop, he's been the team's best offensive option since he arrived. After that the defense needs a lot more quality and depth in the secondary.

Probably also going to need to draft a ground pound style RB because while Green-Ellis is good, he's not a pure ground pounder for RB. Giants had the luxury of having a pounder and a bouncer for the SB game which helped their rushing attack a lot in the 2nd half.

[Innovator]

Patriots impending free agents: Receiver Wes Welker, defensive ends Mark Anderson and Andre Carter, receiver Deion Branch, running backs BenJarvus Green-Ellis and Kevin Faulk, guard/center Dan Connolly, defensive linemen Gerard Warren and Shaun Ellis, linebacker Gary Guyton, returner/receiver Matt Slater, defensive backs James Ihedigbo, Antwaun Molden, and Nathan Jones, and linebackers Tracy White and Niko Koutouvides.

Wow that can be brutal for the Pats.

[Innovator]

Giants New York Giants
The @Giants announce that TE Jake Ballard suffered a torn ACL in the Super Bowl
6 minutes ago

Well, looks like we're going TE adrafting.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Shit. At first they thought it was just a sprain too...wonder if he actually tore it while testing it out on the sidelines. He fell into a heap trying to cut.

No idea what the free agent market looks like for tight ends, but they're definitely going to have to sign and/or draft a new TE. Ballard and Beckum are locks for the PUP list at the least, who knows how long it'll take them to heal from there. At least Bear Pascoe has some extra job security.</font>

[Innovator]

Whatever they do, he must have an awesome midwest white guy name.

[OssMan]

Not a huge fan of Ballards59. I hope they draft a nice black tight end

[Crimson]

Thank you Giants for making Menounos pay off a bet:drool:
http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnflexperts/138344859.jpg

[owenbrown]

Is this it? Is this finally the post where owenbrown reveals his allegiance to an NFL team? Or is he just spontaneously pointing out the Tennessee Titans schedule.

I believe I have mentioned before I am a Titans fan and I know they are a .500 team at best

[RP]

Thank you Giants for making Menounos pay off a bet:drool:
http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnflexperts/138344859.jpg

Thank you jesus

[Skippord]

http://www.thesuperficial.com/tim-tebow-katy-perry-maria-menounos-02-2012

While Tebow politely chatted with many of the girls, one source told us that “he only seemed to have eyes” for brunette beauty Menounos, who was spotted “chatting to Tebow for over an hour. It looked quite flirtatious. They were taking pictures Tebowing together.” The two, along with a big group of friends, were the last to leave well after 2 a.m.

BAM!

[FearedSanctity]

Aw shit, Timmy gonna lay it down

[Innovator]

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Brandon Jacobs to reporters on Tom Brady's wife, Gisele Bundchen: "She just needs to continue to stay cute and shut up."

[McLegend]

I have a feeling Kurt Warner doesn't like Eli Manning.

[Triple Naitch]

Wasn't he stuck with having to mentor him early in Eli's career?

[McLegend]

Yeah I think. He's just said weird things. Like

"Eli first two seasons were the worst Quarterbacking I've ever seen."

And now

"Eli is not a Hall of Famer"


You don't hear current Qb's say that stuff about each other.

[Innovator]

Eli can't hear Kurt over the sound of his deafening awesomeness.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The joke of it is that Warner's the one who agreed to sign with the Giants in the first place, what did he think was going to happen? They were a team in transition and were always going to bench him to get Eli some starts as soon as it became clear that they weren't going to be contenders.

It's one thing to say you don't think Eli's a HOFer yet, but the way he goes about it just makes it pretty obvious that he's bitter. Eli 2, Warner 1</font>

[Nark Order]

Oh my god. If Peyton Manning goes to the Arizona Cardinals I'm going to find a way to stab myself with an actual Cardinal.

Peyton should stay out of the NFC West... unless he becomes a 9er. :shifty:

[Supreme Olajuwon]

would be a ripping good laugh if he went to Tennessee or Jacksonville

would also enjoy him as a Dolphin

[Emperor Smeat]

Well ESPN thinks Peyton most likely is staying in the AFC with a strong possibility of staying in the division (Indy, Tennessee) or returns to the AFC East (Miami, maybe the Jets).

Then again very unlikely the Jets would get him mainly due to the fanbase would trash him if he doesn't instantly bring results, comparing him to Eli now who is considered a lot better especially in the playoffs, and their recent habit of favoring trash talking instead of winning. They also managed to reward Santanio Holmes who essentially quit the team with an extra $7.5 million for next year ($15+ million overall).

[Team Sheep]

If Peyton signs with the Titans it would be the best marketing decision that club will ever make. Living in Knoxville, nobody gives a flying fuck about the Titans or the NFL in general for that matter. Those few that do follow the Colts simply for Peyton Manning. If he signed, the Tennessee Titans would actually start to get a following from the state and not just from Nashville.

[OssMan]

Really? Everyone there likes college football I guess right

[Team Sheep]

Yep. Most people here are pretty much anti-NFL because of its "lack of tradition and that it's too commercialised" apparently. Peyton Manning's the only thing that will catch their attention. I think I come across more NFL fans in Wales than I do here...

[Kris P Lettus]

It was.the same way in NOLA and the Gulf South until the Saints started winning.. I'm sure intrest picks up during good seasons..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

You heard it here first. Kris P Lettus says SEC fans are bandwagoners.

[Innovator]

I wonder how many Saints fans have Aaron Brooks jerseys?

[Triple Naitch]

Or Jeff Blake

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>So apparently here's the list of the Giants' impending free agents. Since I'm bored I'm gonna go through them.

T Stacy Andrews: You gotta have a veteran backup OL on the roster and the Giants have used the extra blocker jumbo package quite a bit. Whether it's Andrews or someone else there are no shortage of vets who fill the same need and can be brought in for 1 year.

TE Jake Ballard -- ERFA: Apparently ERFA means you get a 3 year deal from your old team for the veteran minimum. With the Giants' cap issues, veteran minimum is always a good thing. Ballard is definitely worth keeping around even though he will miss a large chunk (if not all) of the 2012 season.

DT Rocky Bernard: He's nothing special but I doubt he's looking for a lot of money at this point in his career and would probably take a cheap 1 year deal to come back to the defending champs. If that's the case I'd bring him in for depth.

LB Chase Blackburn: Mentioned it earlier but the Giants have a serious logjam going on at the LB position. He'd be a great guy to bring back but I'd expect him to get a lot of interest from other teams.

PR/DB Will Blackmon: Meh. This guy did basically nothing for the return game the last 2 years and isn't even really good enough to warrant backup playing time on defense. He can go.

QB David Carr: The season's over if Eli gets hurt anyway, but you gotta have a backup QB. Carr already knows the playbook and Coughlin prefers a veteran reserve option rather than somebody like Ryan "on and off the practice squad every week" Perriloux. If Carr leaves look for some cheap free agent vet to be brought in.

WR Michael Clayton: Manningham's probably a goner so bringing him back in to compete for a backup job wouldn't be a big deal.

CB Michael Coe: This guy pretty much sucked and I don't think he would have even made the final roster last year were it not for any of the injuries. No great loss.

LB Jonathan Goff: Touched up on this already but his injury works in the Giants favor. He'll probably have to take a cheap deal to prove himself. Should re-claim the starting MLB job especially if Blackburn goes elsewhere.

S Deon Grant: Decent player, but he's probably gotta take a really inexpensive deal (theme of the off-season) if he wants to come back. Wouldn't be surprise if he retired after finally getting a ring.

KR/WR Domenik Hixon: It sounds like he wants to play despite 2 torn ACLs in 2 years. If he wants to give it a go I think the Giants should give him a shot in pre-season. If he even remotely resembles the player he was, he'd automatically be the best return man they have.

CB Bruce Johnson -- ERFA: Forgot all about him since his injury happened so early on in the year. Veteran minimum salary and he's better than guys like Coe and Blackmon, so I'd bring him back.

DT Jimmy Kennedy: See Bernard, Rocky.

WR Mario Manningham: He had a pretty crappy regular season but his postseason performance and amazing SB catch probably guaranteed he'll get good money elsewhere. I can't see the Giants putting up big bucks for him especially since Nicks is gonna get a huge deal soon, so he's a goner. If nothing else his place in Giants lore is secure.

S Derrick Martin: I seem to remember a ton of ST penalties from this guy. He's not gonna make a lot of money either way so he'd be an extra body competing in pre-season if anything else.

T Kareem McKenzie: The more I think about it, the more I think he's gonna be gone. I have no doubt another team will offer him more and he's probably too old to justify it. Beatty, Brewer, or a draft pick will probably fill in instead.

TE/FB Bear Pascoe -- RFA: Don't think another team will try to sign him and really the Giants have no choice but to bring him back anyway. Decent role player and an awesome name.

CB Aaron Ross: He works way better when he's not starting. I really have no idea what the interest level from other teams will be though, so this is really a toss up. Prince Amukamara being healthy from the get go next year would relegate him to a #4 CB so I'd say he's likely gone.

KR/WR Devin Thomas: Worth bringing back. The guy was a good special teams contributor, and I'll take that from a #4-5 WR any day of the week.

CB Terrell Thomas: Same thing with Goff, should be had for cheap. Huge, huge boost for the secondary and the fact that he'll probably be had at a great price makes it all the better.

DE Dave Tollefson: Love this guy and would love to have him back. I think he'll finally get a pay raise from somewhere else though and would get a lot more playing time on a team that wasn't loaded on D-line depth as is.

DB Justin Tryon: Didn't get much of a chance to play before his injury. Probably worth another pre-season look. He's gotta be better than the Coes and Blackmons of the world.

T Tony Ugoh: See Andrews, Stacy.

P Steve Weatherford: Weatherford is the fucking man and kept getting better as the year went on. Definitely gotta give him a multi-year deal and lock up the punting position for the forseeable future.</font>

[Kris P Lettus]

I wonder how many Saints fans have Aaron Brooks jerseys?

I list all my old Saints shit during Katrina.. We burned my bros Arron Brooks jersey the day after.we.signed Brees..

[Ermaximus]

I don't see Shad Khan spending the money to get Manning, let alone wanting him.

[Nark Order]

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0021/3932/products/feefifofum2_large.jpg?100711

lol

[Blakeamus]

You heard it here first. Kris P Lettus says SEC fans are bandwagoners.

SEC fans are INDEED bandwagoners. You wouldn't believe all the people who "bleed purple and gold" wearing UL New Orleans Bowl Championship tees. And the fact that the Raging Cajuns were the only team to bring in a championship this football season and LSU was shutout in the National Championship puts a smile on my face.

[Gonzo]

<font color=goldenrod>DB Justin Tryon: Didn't get much of a chance to play before his injury. Probably worth another pre-season look. He's gotta be better than the Coes and Blackmons of the world.</font>

I think this guy played the majority of the Dolphins game with a broken arm. I would bring him back for a shot based on that alone.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS NAME CHANGE</font> :love:

[Evil Vito]

I think this guy played the majority of the Dolphins game with a broken arm. I would bring him back for a shot based on that alone.

<font color=goldenrod>Holy shit, I hadn't heard about that. Then again I don't remember much about that game as I wasn't able to watch it. Fucking fluky October snow storm. Definitely gotta bring him back.

Another guy to take into consideration (who I had totally forgot about) is Chad Jones. Sounds like he might actually be ready to play after his horrific 2010 accident.</font>

[Innovator]

Cruz wants to get paid, I say yes.

[Nark Order]

Yeah. They can't afford to eventually lose that guy. Pay him for sure.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>With Manningham and probably Jacobs coming off the books, there should be money to give Cruz a decent increase. I could see his agent seeking something like what Jordy Nelson got from the Packers (3 years, $12 million). I don't know how much the Giants will be able to give this off-season though, since the cap situation is already a mess. They may give him a slight bump and promise him a bigger raise if he can prove he wasn't a one year wonder or something.

Nicks has 2 years left on his deal too, so the Giants probably want to lock him up too. The players have said that they want to keep the core of the team together, but with the cap situation the way it is the players will probably have to be willing to take a little bit less than they could get on the open market.

Thankfully, JPP has said that he wants to play out his rookie contract (3 years left) and not further complicate the cap. Of course you have people like Fatcesa saying "no no no, you gotta lock him up now! they'll never be able to afford him when his deal is up. he'll turn into another Osi, it's all about the money for them, etc."</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Sometimes I wonder what the NFL would be like if contracts were guaranteed like in MLB, where money-wise both sides have no choice but to honor it. There wouldn't be a need for holdouts anymore because the players wouldn't be able to be released and screwed out of most of their contract...

...and then I realized that if that were the case, LaVar Arrington would be entering the final year of his deal with the Giants even though in real life he's been retired for 5 years.</font> :o

[owenbrown]

http://daveartlocker.blogspot.com/2012/02/manning-face.html

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Bucs hire Giants QB coach Mike Sullivan as their offensive coordinator.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

Steelers announce they probably won't be keeping Hines Ward for next season although Ward is willing to take a pay cut if it means he can stay. Ward wants to retire as a Steeler but not until his current contract (2 years left) is done.

Pat's Gronk had surgery on his ankle which will take about 10 weeks to heal. He was considering just resting the ankle but ended up listening to doctor's advice for the surgery now than potentially later.

Vikings hinted they will reject the current stadium proposal from the city of Minneapolis due to the stipulation requiring some of the funding to be done with the revenues generated from ticket and other game-related sales. The amount ends up being around $20 million per year for 30 years with the Vikings unwilling to pay that amount nor have a lease lasting that long.

[OssMan]

I love how when a team wins the Super Bowl suddenly all their coaches are qualified for higher positions.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>It's a lot different from SB 42, where the Giants blocked a bunch of their assistants from trying to leave. They didn't let defensive backs coach Peter Giunta interview for a D-coordinator job so he's been stuck on the Giants since and he never got another chance.

Old QB coach Chris Palmer was also banned from interviewing from an offensive coordinator job so he fake retired to get out of his contract and spent a year in the UFL before becoming the Titans offensive coordinator.</font>

[Gonzo]

Wasn't Peter Giunta a DC with the Chiefs once upon a time?

[Droford]

Wonder who will take a chance on 35 year old Randy Moss for next season.

[Hanso Amore]

Looks like Stevie Johnson is going to hit the Free Agent market...Fucking Bills arent even returning his agents calls....sigh.

[Emperor Smeat]

Eagles preparing to franchise tag DeSean Jackson with the tag expected to be around $9.5 million if done.

[Kris P Lettus]

Saints talking to Lofa Tatupu..

[Evil Vito]

Wasn't Peter Giunta a DC with the Chiefs once upon a time?

<font color=goldenrod>Apparently he was co-DC in St. Louis for a couple of years and then the full DC in 2000. But then he got fired and has been bouncing around as a defensive backs coach ever since. Kinda shitty that the Giants blocked him after the Super Bowl win, but then again I don't know what team he was trying to go to. Personally I'd probably block anybody trying to go to a division rival but other than that I'd let them advance.</font>

[Ermaximus]

So many good WR's out there for the taking. Get on it coach Mularky.

[Nark Order]

So many good WR's out there for the taking. Get on it coach Superior Harbaugh.

:(

[Ermaximus]

At least the rest of your division is utter shit.

[Innovator]

When does ESPN start with the Cowboys hype?

[Hanso Amore]

When does ESPN start with the Cowboys hype?

As soon as Ed Werder can get his fat ass off the couch and show up in front of the Stadium.

[Ermaximus]

As soon as Ed Werder can get his fat ass off the couch and show up in front of the Stadium.

So in 6-8 weeks?

[James Steele]

When does ESPN start with the Cowboys hype?

Deep down you know you love it.

[Kris P Lettus]

ESPN is removing Jaws from MNF.. It will just be Tarico and Gruden starting next season..

[RoXer]

It should just be Nessler and Fouts, they're a much better combo.

[RoXer]

Something about Nessler's voice just seems appropriate for MNF. Has a "classic" tone to it or something, hard to describe.

[OssMan]

Madden and summerall

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Pretty sure removing Jaws just clinched the MNF team as being the worst in football. Not that Jaws was anything to write home about, but now Gruden can spout his bullshit unopposed.</font>

[Crimson]

"I love that kid, he's gonna be something special"

[Kris P Lettus]

<font color=goldenrod>Pretty sure removing Jaws just clinched the MNF team as being the worst in football. Not that Jaws was anything to write home about, but now Gruden can spout his bullshit unopposed.</font>

I like Gruden.. i think the annoucing wont be as cluttered and Tarico as the straight man to Chucky's zaniness will work well..

For the record, if the change again, i think Mike and Mike would be perfect.. id hate to lose them in the mornings but i think they would be GOAT..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I like Tirico and I like Gruden. So I'm good with this.

[Gonzo]

I think Tirico is very good. Gruden just says how great everyone is and how what he is watching is the greatest he's ever seen someone do it. He is tolerable. I like Jaws though. Either way, whatever.

[CSL]

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/419659_10150689378048455_286845273454_11595556_1516962520_n.jpg

[Innovator]

I'll take Diehl as the world champ.

[OssMan]

lmao David Diehl

[Supreme Olajuwon]

After successfully ridding the Bengals of Carson Palmer and crippling the Raiders' future, Hue Jackson completes his fiendish plot by rejoining the Bengals as an assistant today.

[Gonzo]

well played. well played.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Chiefs are already starting to get to work on filling their $62 million in cap space. They've signed Stanford Routt to a 3 year deal.</font>

[Innovator]

So it begins.

https://p.twimg.com/AmWY9JkCMAA-sDm.jpg

[Nark Order]

I would really like to see Peyton Manning play for the Dolphins, actually.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-cole_nfl_rules_committee_buddy_ryan_patriots_giants022212

Knew something like this was going to happen.

[weather vane]

If Peyton Manning goes to Miami I will poop myself. Not even because I am loaded either.

[Innovator]

T.O. just made his AFL debut...what?

[Skippord]

*IFL

[Hanso Amore]

T.O. just made his AFL debut...what?

GAS UP THE DELOREAN MARTY!

[Innovator]

Eh, assumed it was the Arena Football League. Anyways, when did he sign to that?

[CSL]

ahaha there's a team called "Omaha Beef". That's the greatest team name in sports history

[Triple Naitch]

Guy had three catches for three touchdowns. It's like the jock in gym class playing against all the fat kids.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Manningham is going to the Bucs apparently. NFL is really weird in that teams can pretty much negotiate a contract with a player before the free agent period officially starts, at which point it's formally announced. That's why there's always a huge flurry of movement the second the free agent period opens.

Manningham had said in a radio interview yesterday that he was 75% sure he was gone because he wanted more money and wanted the ball to be thrown his way more. Then he added in that the Giants were unlikely to repeat and, while repeating in the NFL is extremely hard, it seemed like an unnecessarily dickish thing to say. Thanks for the great playoff run Mario, don't let the door hit you on the way out.</font>

[Innovator]

Vito, Giants have no cap room and Manningham is gonna demand a lot of money, let him go.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>No shit. I never expected him to be back, and don't want him back as he was always going to be paid more than he's worth. I'm just saying that going on the radio and saying "they aren't going to repeat anyway" is a low blow move on your way out the door. Totally unnecessary.</font>

[OssMan]

Manningham will be the 2nd best receiver in the NFL

[Nark Order]

No shit. I never expected him to be back, and don't want him back as he was always going to be paid more than he's worth. I'm just saying that going on the radio and saying "they aren't going to repeat anyway" is a low blow move on your way out the door. Totally unnecessary.

Naw, I think you're just being a bit bitter. Let it go, man. He's right, they probably won't repeat. I don't think it's that shitty of a thing to say.

Who knows though. Maybe they will repeat. And then they can rub it in his eye.

[Skippord]

The Bucs are my alternate team, so good for them finally spending money

[Evil Vito]

Naw, I think you're just being a bit bitter. Let it go, man. He's right, they probably won't repeat. I don't think it's that shitty of a thing to say.

Who knows though. Maybe they will repeat. And then they can rub it in his eye.

<font color=goldenrod>It just doesn't make sense to me. He's far from the first Giants player to take parting shots on his way out. I never got why it happens so frequently, you'd think you'd want to leave on good terms.

Going forward, I don't think the Giants will have much of a problem replacing him anyway. I've got a really good feeling about Jerrel Jernigan. Think he could be a real weapon in the slot, and the Giants have had a tendency to see an explosion in productivity from guys in their sophomore season.</font>

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Since he's pretty much the reason they won the Superbowl with that amazing catch he's allowed to shit on the team if they decide they don't need him. He was also vastly underpaid along with all of their receivers. When the 8 mil a year QB is throwing to 500k receivers there is gonna be animosity.

Life is short in the NFL and he needs to get paid.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Nobody is faulting him for cashing in. He should. Nicks and Cruz drawing the majority of the coverage allowed him to put together an excellent postseason, and now he'll get paid #1 receiver money for it. I sure as shit know I'd take it.

The Bucs play the Giants in Metlife this year. Mario would have gotten a huge ovation during intros. But now he's probably going to get booed because he talked shit on the way out. It's just unfortunate that it had to end that way.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>In an odd twist, apparently the odds for Peyton Manning going to the Chiefs have dropped from 50-1 to 3-1.</font> :o

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Vito, I think you need to stop listening to sports radio. It seems to make you really upset.

[CSL]

<font color=goldenrod>Mario would have gotten a huge ovation during intros. But now he's probably going to get booed because he talked shit on the way out.</font>

you seem to be blowing something pretty innocuous way out of proportion

[Innovator]

Jim Ross ‏ @JRsBBQ Close
“@GusRamsey: if Mike Franccessa ran the 40-yard dash today, what would his time be?” April.

[Innovator]

Andrew Luck killing it at the Combine.

[Evil Vito]

you seem to be blowing something pretty innocuous way out of proportion

<font color=goldenrod>They show old Giants highlight packages before the games and the fans always seem to boo anytime they show somebody who has talked down to the team after leaving, even if it was a great moment in Giants history (Plax' SB42 TD catch, for example). Fair or not, that's how the average NY fan operates.</font>

[Evil Vito]

Jim Ross ‏ @JRsBBQ Close
“@GusRamsey: if Mike Franccessa ran the 40-yard dash today, what would his time be?” April.

<font color=goldenrod>Oh god that's amazing. :lol: I don't follow too many people on Twitter, but I think I gotta follow JR just for that one alone.</font>

[Nark Order]

He helped win them a Superbowl and now they aren't going to pay him, he's probably a little bitter as well. I don't think it's a big deal.

[Innovator]

Giants as of two weeks ago were $7.3 million over the cap.

[Nark Order]

Well, yeah. I know WHY they aren't going to pay him but it still is a bit of a shitty situation, as he probably wanted to stick around.

[Ermaximus]

Jags want to resign Scobee, Mincey, Landry, and Mathis. I agree with 3 of these 4 being resigned. Can you guess which one I'd rather have leave?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I honestly can't.

#loljaguars

[Ermaximus]

Mathis.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Burfict totally shat the bed with his 40 times.</font>

[Innovator]

I'm going to go look at the 225 test and feel warm knowing I test better than most linebackers. (Of course, taking out of the equation the agility tests, vertical jump, 40, everything else sans the wonderlic)

[Emperor Smeat]

ESPN is reporting the Rams will be trading out of their #2 spot in the draft saying they are confident in staying with Sam Bradford as their QB.

So far the Browns (#4 pick), Redskins (#6 pick) and Dolphins (#8 pick) are in trade discussions with the Rams wanting at least something similar to what the Chargers did in 2004 involving their Eli Manning pick as a starter to any deal.

[Skippord]

is it weird that #'s 2, 4, 6, and 8 are all involved in the same trade discussion?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I could see the Redskins or Dolphins moving up. Would be surprised if the Browns traded all that just to jump up 2 spots though. I'm sure they'd take RG3 if a trade doesn't get worked out and he's still on the board at #4 - but McCoy is still young. They are lacking in receiving weapons regardless of who their QB is.

If I'm the Browns, I stay put and if a trade happens and RG3 goes at #2, I take Blackmon at #4 (Matt Kalil to the Vikings at #3 is pretty much a given).</font>

[James Steele]

Cowboys need to trade up and get Morris Claiborne.

[Corndad]

Steelers release Hines Ward. Figured would happen. To be that low on the WR depth chart he would be expected to play Special Teams and he just doesn't have it in him anymore.

[Triple Naitch]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/AmR74cvK0rk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

OK OK. SAVE IT FOR THE FIELD. IT'S TIME TO ROCK.

[Ermaximus]

Steelers release Hines Ward. Figured would happen. To be that low on the WR depth chart he would be expected to play Special Teams and he just doesn't have it in him anymore.

Not to mention that Pittsburgh is gambling with Mike Wallace now too. Rather than tagging him, they're going to tender him. Yeah, you must really want him to finish his career there huh? I hope like hell that the Jags snatch him right from under their noses.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The Jaguars should sign every wide receiver.

[Nark Order]

I'll take Hines Ward on the 9ers for sure. Would still be quite the improvement.

[Corndad]

Wow how bout this Bounty thing with the Saints.

[Nark Order]

Bounty that, you shitheads.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/GBpgHPjI0zg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Nark Order]

This is pretty incredible. Been looking for a reason to hate the Saints and discredit their accomplishments in some way.

[Triple Naitch]

Bounties in football are old news. Buddy Ryan did it for years.

[RoXer]

why did you delete your post, mallards59?

[RoXer]

or was it really mallards59 in the first place?

[RoXer]

bet it was skippord

[Gonzo]

Bounty that, you shitheads.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/GBpgHPjI0zg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Hate when players celebrate prematurely like this.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Saints will probably be docked a low round pick this year in addition to their 1st rounder next year on top of fines and such.</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Hey this is just like those Giants players trying to injure that guy on the 49ers. The one Big Vito said was no big deal and was a part of football.

You guys remember that one.

[Gonzo]

When I read it this afternoon my reaction was pretty meh.

I'm not going to pretend this doesn't go on elsewhere and the Saints organization shouldn't be demonized for it.

[Evil Vito]

Hey this is just like those Giants players trying to injure that guy on the 49ers. The one Big Vito said was no big deal and was a part of football.

You guys remember that one.

<font color=goldenrod>This scenario is a part of football too, things like this happen league wide and the Saints are hardly the first team to do it. I just happen to think that the Saints are going to get punished heavily for it because they were caught actually paying players for it and the league is trying to clean up its public image. John Clayton and others have said that the Saints' punishment is probably going to be worse than the one the Patriots got for Spygate.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Gotta figure we're going to see a ton of rule changes this year based on how injuries are handled. Teams might be forced to shut players down for the year if they get multiple concussions or something. Also practices are probably going to be monitored.</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Since they got bonuses for guys getting carted off, I wonder how many times they gave someone a serious leg injury but they were helped off by trainers instead of getting loaded onto the cart.

Would be gutted in that situation.

[Triple Naitch]

How much for when a player fakes an injury?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'm interested in seeing if any suspensions come out of this in addition to whatever other penalties they hand out. Gregg Williams probably will be even though it would hurt the Rams, not the Saints.

Player punishments would be tricky to figure out because they were encouraged to make hard, but clean hits. Any punishment would be based not for what they did on the field, but for what they got paid as a result. If they have a record of how much everybody made, I'd guess the players would get fined that amount rather than being suspended.</font>

[Kris P Lettus]

Its part of football.. Head hunting goes back to the dawn of time..

Just because the head hunting worked (e.g. Favre, Warner) made it bigger news than it should be..

I don't agree with trying to hurt other players but to have no incentives for performance is ridiculous.. In reading on this players cant even get bonuses for INTS, sacks, forced fumbles, etc..

That's pretty stupid..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Hey guys I know this is football and we all act like a bunch of irrational mongoloids when our favorite team is involved, but intentionally trying to injure people in not a good thing.

[Kris P Lettus]

No paying bonuses to intentionally injury players is against everything Gooddell has tried to do..

This wouldn't even be a discussion if Tagliabou was still around..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Well then it's probably a good thing Tabliabue isn't around anymore.

[Kris P Lettus]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827585cd/article/players-react-to-saints-bounty-program-on-twitter

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I don't remember who said it, but someone had the idea that they should just take away players' equipment and have them play without pads. Would probably cut down injuries a ton seeing as how guys would stop launching themselves at each other thinking they're invincible wrecking balls.

[Blakeamus]

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSlieXkcVpWDTfDPcpbTXahQsyhTBIvhuL8ApMvwM19vqqx_3Jb_MwMoaGNBounty that, you shitheads.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/GBpgHPjI0zg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Blakeamus]

I can't see anyone who was offered a sum to take out a player, would even second guess it. I am a Saint's fan and I think it WAS ridiculous the way they organized the bounty, but this has been going on in every football team for years.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Speaking of the Saints, they officially franchise tagged Brees today because they couldn't come to terms on a long-term deal. So now Carl Nicks is going to go elsewhere and probably get one of the largest offensive lineman free agent contracts ever to boot.</font>

[SammyG]

Gregg Williams probably gonna get suspended and we'll have to find a new DC. GAAYYY

[Gonzo]

Its part of football.. Head hunting goes back to the dawn of time..

Just because the head hunting worked (e.g. Favre, Warner) made it bigger news than it should be..

I don't agree with trying to hurt other players but to have no incentives for performance is ridiculous.. In reading on this players cant even get bonuses for INTS, sacks, forced fumbles, etc..

That's pretty stupid..

Players can get incentives for play if it's included in their contract. If a system exists outside their contract with the team then that's when the NFL rules were violated.

[James Steele]

Speaking of the Saints, they officially franchise tagged Brees today because they couldn't come to terms on a long-term deal. So now Carl Nicks is going to go elsewhere and probably get one of the largest offensive lineman free agent contracts ever to boot.

Come on Cowboysssssssssssssssssssssssss. We need OL and DBs.

[Crimson]

^^ Hopefully Jerrah opens up his wallet for Nicks

[James Steele]

I really hope we trade up to get the CB out of LSU. He is projected to go like 4th-6th.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Gregg Williams probably gonna get suspended and we'll have to find a new DC. GAAYYY

we'll?

SammyG when did you get a job in the front offices of the Rams? Good job bro. :y:

[Crimson]

I'd rather sign a CB thru free agency and draft another one in the late rounds. And draft a rush line backer or DeCastro in the 1st if we don't get Nicks. One can fall in love with speed positions but imagine just having a solid G that could make the O-line that much better, giving Romo more time and lanes for Murray.

Also Spencer hasn't lived up so another rushLB is in need..I dont know why Victor Butler doesn't play more he seems to make plays when he does.

[RP]

Wow!

Apparently the orgin of Mannings neck injury came from the Redskins game in 2006. And guess who was the defensive coordinator. And no coincidence, now the Redskins are being investigated.

I hope Greg Williams never coaches again. What a piece of shit.

[RP]

Ofcourse, he did get us Andrew Luck and potentially 20+ years of elite quarterback play. Maybe he's The ( piece of) Shit.

[Blakeamus]

Just love how deep this investigation is going...

[McLegend]

Yeah that hit on Manning was especially brutal. I also thought every hit on Favre in that NFC championship game was extremely brutal.

[Emperor Smeat]

Won't be surprised if other coaches/assistants get caught or eventually outed considering how strongly the NFL has been in regards to the concussion and other "dirty" hits issue. Even Spygate had other coaches admit they did similar tactics in the past.

Probably going to affect a lot of the hard hitting teams with people questioning if those hard hits were normal or had some extra incentive the past previous years.

[DaveBrawl]

Wasn't this an "issue" with Baltimore or Pittsburgh a couple of years ago? I seem to remember ESPN making a fuss about it for a week or so and then it just faded away and nothing came of it.

[Crimson]

Any little football news just gets magnified by ESPN. Not saying this is small news, but like if Peyton Manning gets a cold im sure 10 reporters will be on his porch monitoring what kinda cold medicine he takes.

[Kris P Lettus]

"Peyton Manning had intense diarrhea this morning.. Chris Mortenson will be coming in soon with the inside scoop.."

[Kris P Lettus]

Actually now that I think about it, a scoop of Manning diarrhea would prolly bring in big money on Ebay.. But than RP would be broke for life..

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Could be year suspensions for any players or coaches found to be involved in this bounty stuff.

[Kris P Lettus]

I dunno where you guys are getting your info from.. They are just now having the meeting today..

[Ermaximus]

5 kickers have gotten the franchise tag so far. Hmmmm.

Skippord will be happy that Matt Prater will be in Denver another year. So will Jesus.

[Gonzo]

It's all just speculation at this point. Goodell will probably bring the hammer down hard though.

[Skippord]

wooo Prater

some strippers at Shotgun Willies are definitely getting paid 2night

[DrA]

"Peyton Manning had intense diarrhea this morning.. Chris Mortenson will be coming in soon with the inside scoop.."

Is that a pun

[ClockShot]

Colts are cutting Peyton Manning loose.

Let the games begin.

[Innovator]

...THERE WAS A FIREFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT

[Supreme Olajuwon]

CUT THAT MEAT

[Hanso Amore]

I simply cannot fucking believe they are cutting Manning. I truly hope the Colts draft Luck and He busts. Just to serve them right for the way they are discarding their greatest player ever. Hello, Old Shitty Colts. Nothing against Luck, but im putting the bad karma on him.

[weather vane]

There has to be more to this...

No way they just cut Peyton fucking Manning. Classless if so.

[Emperor Smeat]

Too expensive to keep him and the 3 surgeries in a year seems to be the main reasons.

He was owed $28 million in bonuses alone to go along with his $20+ million per year contract (4 years left). The three surgeries was due to each one having complications so no guarantees he wouldn't need a 4th one once the season got under way.

There were rumors weeks ago about Luck not willing to be a backup QB if the Colts took him and the mess with management sort of left a sour image on Peyton.

[Hanso Amore]

Fuck Luck if he is "Refusing" to back anyone up when is isnt even in the NFL yet. Starting to go Eli and buy into his own pre draft hype.

[Hanso Amore]

Especially refusing to sit behind one of the 5 best QBs of all time.

[Ermaximus]

Let's vote to put Luck on the cover of Madden 13. Oh wait...

[weather vane]

Fuck Luck...

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Lot of hate for a guy who didn't even do anything. Calm down, people.

[Ermaximus]

You're right Supreme. :( But I know one thing, he'll never be as good as Andy Dalton.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

well obviously

[Ermaximus]

Going into the 2012 seaon, he will be the 2nd best QB in the AFC South for sure.

1) Schaub
2) Luck
3) Hasslebeck/Locker
4) Gabbert *sigh*

[Hanso Amore]

Its nots Lucks fault, but he is on my shit list. Sometimes you are guilty by association.

[CSL]

http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/49037/1/watch-nfl-network.html

live Peyton presser/NFL Network feed

[Krimzon7]

I hate Peyton Manning...he's the most overrated qb in the history of QB's...right behind Brett Farve.

[CSL]

lol ok

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>While Irsay has been annoying lately, you can tell this is hitting him hard too. Openly cried during the opening remarks. I'm sure people will claim that the tears were fake, though.</font>

[Krimzon7]

Going into the 2012 seaon, he will be the 2nd best QB in the AFC South for sure.

1) Schaub
2) Luck
3) Hasslebeck/Locker
4) Gabbert *sigh*


I'd hate to see Manning go to Houston, although a lot of 'pundits' are commenting on that possibility. I would love to see him flounder for a year or two then fade away.

[Krimzon7]

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/peytonreleased.jpg

[Nark Order]

Alright, the Arizona Cardinals are coming up far too much lately in the talks of this Manning deal. Making me a bit nervous.

[Nark Order]

I hate Peyton Manning...he's the most overrated qb in the history of QB's...right behind Brett Farve.

He's a 4 time MVP. What in the hell are you even talking about?

[RoXer]

Alright, the Arizona Cardinals are coming up far too much lately in the talks of this Manning deal. Making me a bit nervous.

They've been #1 on the rumor list for a long time now my dude

[RoXer]

Narcsiususes feelings on rival teams' potential QBs

[Nark Order]

They've been #1 on the rumor list for a long time now my dude

I haven't payed attention for a week or two and the last time I checked, the Dolphins were the frontrunners. Dunno. Been trying to block out any mention of the Cardinals because I don't want to run down the street with a meat cleaver and murder everybody.

[SammyG]

This is so sad and bizarre.

[Krimzon7]

He's a 4 time MVP. What in the hell are you even talking about?

four time MVP with a 9-10 playoff record, not impressed with performance.

[Reavant]

Krimzon, your being an ass-hat... hes done things at the QB position that no other qbs have done or been able to do.

Overrated? He had a team that he took to the superbowl a couple years ago and the season he doesnt play a game, his team barely wins a game. OVERRATED? He should seriously considered for MVP accolades without even stepping on the field.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yeah it watching the Colts last year without Manning didn't convince you that he's amazing, then I dunno what to tell ya. He's pretty much great.

[Krimzon7]

Just as you're entitled to your opinions, I'm entitled to mine. I'm not impressed. You guys see amazing statistics and singular awards, and I see a guy who would lose AFC Divisional and Championship games, who rode an inspired Defense (Bob Sanders Freeney and Mathis specifically) to SB Title; and cost his team a second when the pressure was on him to deliver(pick six to the saints). Is he good? yes. Is he Great? hmmm, maybe. Is he the best ever? no. either way I"m not a fan.

[weather vane]

lol Krimzon

btw FUCK LUCK

[Krimzon7]

Luck is for Losers :shifty:

[Kris P Lettus]

I think it wall be hilarious if the Colts throw a swerve and pick like Trent Richardson or RG3..

[Emperor Smeat]

There was a rumor of them reconsidering Luck and taking RG3 because of all the fixes on the O line that was needed but ended up being shot down a few days later by the owner. Might have occurred after when RG3 won the Heisman.

[Requiem]

Feel sick to my stomach over this whole thing.

I get it. I understand why they did it. But there is no way the fans wouldn't have forgiven Irsay if he decided to keep Manning for the rest of his career. So they suck for a while when he retires. Who cares, you'd go down as being the guy who respected the player enough to let him finish out an illustrious career with his team in a city he's done so much for, AND still potentially win another Super Bowl. I get it though. You don't pass up a number one draft pick when you have a potential franchise quarterback that is expected to play at a high caliber for the next 15 years, ready to be drafted right now. Especially when you're not sure if your current QB will be healthy enough to play for the last few years.

And for the record, “If I have the opportunity to learn from a guy like that, of course you’re going to take advantage of it,” Luck said at the NFL Scouting Combine. “Absolutely.”

The guy hasn't done anything wrong, so fuck the haters. Start of a new era in Indy, and I hope it will be a great one. But there's no replacing Peyton Manning.

Thing I hate almost as much as losing Manning, is the fact that this season is going to be filled with comparisons between Luck and Manning. Speculation as to whether he'll live up to the hype, blah blah. And if Manning does good wherever he goes, which I imagine he will (because he's Peyton fucking Manning, and he was still throwing like a legend before the surgeries) assuming the injury is healed by the time he plays, then people are going to be screaming about how Irsay made the wrong call, without realizing that it wasn't about next season. It's about the next ten seasons and beyond. Hope Luck doesn't fold to the pressure.

Really hope Manning doesn't go to Miami or Washington. Washington doesn't strike me as a Super Bowl ready team, and I just can't stand Miami, or Florida in general.

[Requiem]

And you can't watch the press conference and not see that it was absolutely killing Irsay to have to announce something like this. I have no doubts that this was not something taken lightly within the organization. Neither of them could get through it without choking up.

[CSL]

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The Broncos interest in Peyton Manning makes a lot of sense. If anyone can heal Peyton's neck, it's probably Tim Tebow.

because I enjoyed the tweet but mostly for owenbrown

[Hanso Amore]

Just as you're entitled to your opinions, I'm entitled to mine. I'm not impressed. You guys see amazing statistics and singular awards, and I see a guy who would lose AFC Divisional and Championship games, who rode an inspired Defense (Bob Sanders Freeney and Mathis specifically) to SB Title; and cost his team a second when the pressure was on him to deliver(pick six to the saints). Is he good? yes. Is he Great? hmmm, maybe. Is he the best ever? no. either way I"m not a fan.

The difference is your opinions are fucking retarded.

[Hanso Amore]

Just as you're entitled to your opinions, I'm entitled to mine. I'm not impressed. You guys see amazing statistics and singular awards, and I see a guy who would lose AFC Divisional and Championship games, who rode an inspired Defense (Bob Sanders Freeney and Mathis specifically) to SB Title; and cost his team a second when the pressure was on him to deliver(pick six to the saints). Is he good? yes. Is he Great? hmmm, maybe. Is he the best ever? no. either way I"m not a fan.

Or, for the non fucking moron audience, A QB that led a iffy defense to a title and nearly won another,

I like you. Stop being a fucking moron on purpose.

[RP]

Not even going to lie. I held it together until Peyton looked straight into the camera and said he was proud to be our quarterback. I lost it. Cried like a little girl. Glad I was alone. It was embarrassing.

[RP]

I think Luck will be amazing. Can't wait for him to get signed and learn the playbook. And get familiar with our white receivers and TE's.

[Krimzon7]

The difference is your opinions are fucking retarded.


Not as retarded as this post.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

oh shit