NFL 2013 Off-Season Thread

[Emperor Smeat]

Same reasons Steve Young (4) and Aaron Rodgers (3) staid for years as backups to great QBs. Only difference is Mallet waiting a few more years but he's another 1-2 years away from even being starter worthy.

Rodgers might have waited even longer if Farve didn't kept teasing retirement.

Matt Cassel was also 3 years but would have been longer if Brady didn't get hurt in 08.

[Droford]

The Brady deal saved the ravens almost a million this year if they use the exclusive tag since it dropped Brady out of the top 5 qbs. If either of the mannings, brees, Stafford or roethisberger restructure it would save them more.

[weather vane]

Brady is such a team player. Fucking love Brady.

[RoXer]

I was wondering how the Tom Brady deal affected the Baltimore Ravens.

Now I know.

[Next Big Thing]

Really hope the Falcons stay away from the free agent running backs this year. Jackson is intriguing, but I wonder about his age and Shonn Greene just doesn't do it for me. Plenty of breakout backs in the draft in my opinion.

[Innovator]

Looks to be unofficially official, Smith to the Chiefs

[Innovator]

The Brady deal saved the ravens almost a million this year if they use the exclusive tag since it dropped Brady out of the top 5 qbs. If either of the mannings, brees, Stafford or roethisberger restructure it would save them more.

Eli restructured a year or two ago, no dice.

[The Condor]

Really hope the Falcons stay away from the free agent running backs this year. Jackson is intriguing, but I wonder about his age and Shonn Greene just doesn't do it for me. Plenty of breakout backs in the draft in my opinion.

Personally, I would like to see Steven Jackson team up with Hillman and maybe McGahee for the Broncos.

[Nark Order]

Alex to the Chiefs seems like the best decision for all parties involved. Oddly, I'm going to miss him. I think he will do pretty solid under Andy Reid.

[Innovator]

49ers will get the 2nd pick in the 2nd round for him, plus a conditional mid round pick in 2014.

[screech]

Looks to be unofficially official, Smith to the Chiefs

Called it!

[screech]

I think he will do well there. And Dwayne Bowe will have a big year.

[Emperor Smeat]

The 49ers managed to have around 11-15 draft picks for this year from all the stock piling they've been doing recently.

[Next Big Thing]

Getting the first pick in the 2nd round for Smith is money for the 49ers. The beauty of the NFL draft is how deep it is and how first round talent goes beyond the first round sometimes, although the new rumor is that it puts the 9ers in prime position to put together a package for Revis or Harvin. Either way, they're in a damn good spot.

[Kris P Lettus]

fuck the niners

:'(

[Droford]

Eli restructured a year or two ago, no dice.
Roethlsberger is restructuring his by the end of the week. More savings for the ravens lol

[#1-norm-fan]

The Chiefs give up too much for a QB who seemed better that he really is because of the system he's in. Did you learn nothing from Matt Cassel? :nono:

[#1-norm-fan]

I'm retroactively shocked that they didn't pick up Tebow last year now.

[Kris P Lettus]

They spent alot of money to replace Matt Castle with Matt Castle..

[Next Big Thing]

The Chiefs give up too much for a QB who seemed better that he really is because of the system he's in. Did you learn nothing from Matt Cassel? :nono:

I think Andy Reid is capable of developing a system that will bring the best out of Smith though. Dude had two different defense oriented head coaches and six different OCs before Harbaugh got there.

[Evil Vito]

Will Beatty re-signs with the Giants. 5 years, $38.75 million. $19 million guaranteed.

[Innovator]

Will Beatty re-signs with the Giants. 5 years, $38.75 million. $19 million guaranteed.

That puts Diehl one foot out the door

[Kris P Lettus]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2234189/peytonbinocs.gif

:'(

[Krimzon7]

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!

[Krimzon7]

The New York Jets work out David Garrard. They also talk about bringing Brady Quinn into camp. I am confident that nobody cares about this.

[Next Big Thing]

Goodbye John Abraham, Dunta Robinson and Michael Turner. Saints are pretty desperate so I'm sure you'll find employment there.

[Kris P Lettus]

Goodbye John Abraham, Dunta Robinson and Michael Turner. Saints are pretty desperate so I'm sure you'll find employment there.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I just heard this on the radio on the way home from work.. You were talking all that shit about the Saints cap room, yet Brees, Vilma and Smith are about to restructure and guys like Colston, Grubbs, and Evans already have..

Our probowlers want to play here while the Falcons are hemorrhaging yr leading rusher, sacker, and tackler..

Falcons lose that after ONE playoff win, Saints didn't lose that kind of talent after the SperBowl win..

lol

[CSL]

well yeah but Turner is dead and they can live without Robinson with Grimes back and Asante Samuel. Abraham tho

[CSL]

apparently Flacco will become the highest paid QB in history. Deal sorted etc

[McLegend]

I think people are overrating Alex Smith. He's good, but is he on the top 15 in the NFL? He probably isn't.

[Kris P Lettus]

well yeah but Turner is dead

They didn't feed him the ball enough.. He had 100 less carries than the year before so his total yards fell off, but he only had one less TD..

Even in 08 when he had 1700 yards he had 17 TD's but he carried the ball close to 150 times more..

[Kris P Lettus]

They pretty much cut a third of his carries so his yards per season went down a third..

Similar TD total and similar yards per carry..

[McLegend]

I agree. Michael Turner is a corpse.

[CSL]

3.6 ypc is a pretty big drop off no matter how many touches, plus throw in his huge contract, his age, Jacquizz Rogers and the "he's burnt out/done for" argument from the "experts", Falcons fans etc and that doesn't seem to equate to a guy that anybody should be too worried about releasing

[Kris P Lettus]

He had 10 TD's.. You realize Adrian Peterson only had 12 right??

And he had 130 more regular season touches..

[CSL]

3.6ypc

Turner is still a big fucker with even bigger legs, I'm sure he can still pile over the line from a few yards out

[CSL]

$120.6m, 6yrs for Flacco, biggest contract ever

[Emperor Smeat]

apparently Flacco will become the highest paid QB in history. Deal sorted etc

Joe Flacco and the Baltimore Ravens have agreed to a six-year contract worth $120.6 million that makes Flacco the highest paid player in NFL history, a source familar with deal told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

Also tops in terms of per year since its more than Brees average of about $20 million per year. In terms of jump, its also huge going from $6.7 million last year to now around $20.1 million next season.

[Krimzon7]

God, If you're listening or reading this:

Please let this contract be the one thing that drives The Raven's Franchise into the ground.

[Kris P Lettus]

Maybe he can afford to get his eyebrows done now..

[Innovator]

That's a lot of money to blow in the Inner Harbor

[Innovator]

Maybe he can afford to get his eyebrows done now..

If Strahan never got his gap fixed, Flacco has to keep the Bert-brows

[Kris P Lettus]

touche'

[Kris P Lettus]

drewbreesfacesmear.jpeg

[Nark Order]

I'm sure nobody will regret this...

[Droford]

God, If you're listening or reading this:

Please let this contract be the one thing that drives The Raven's Franchise into the ground.

I can't find the Ray Lewis "if god is for you.." video but..that..

[Droford]

Oh and his cap # for 2013 will probably only be $7 million.

[Droford]

And pointed out that flacco will only be the highest paid player until Aaron Rodgers re-ups his contact, since you know he'll get paid more for his sexier stats even though flacco has 2 more wins, more playoff wins and same number of super bowls. re

[Triple Naitch]

And Flacco will probably restructure the contract in a year or two anyway.

[Droford]

Probably by year 5 when he has as many rings as a newly retired tom Brady.

[Triple Naitch]

Easy there, Drostradamus.

[Droford]

2 more in 5 years..not impossible

[Triple Naitch]

No, it's impossible. Too much parody in NFL nowadays.

[itsmeJD]

They didn't feed him the ball enough.. He had 100 less carries than the year before so his total yards fell off, but he only had one less TD..

Even in 08 when he had 1700 yards he had 17 TD's but he carried the ball close to 150 times more..

Fuck Michael Turner.

-Atlanta, GA

[itsmeJD]

I will say getting rid of Abraham wasn't fucking smart in my opinion only because he was pretty much all the pass rush we had unless they're planning on upgrading with someone younger.

Also, as long as we resign Grimes I'm ok with getting rid of Dunta.

[screech]

I'm a fan of John Abraham.

[Next Big Thing]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I just heard this on the radio on the way home from work.. You were talking all that shit about the Saints cap room, yet Brees, Vilma and Smith are about to restructure and guys like Colston, Grubbs, and Evans already have..

Our probowlers want to play here while the Falcons are hemorrhaging yr leading rusher, sacker, and tackler..

Falcons lose that after ONE playoff win, Saints didn't lose that kind of talent after the SperBowl win..

lol

It was pretty much known that Turner was on his last legs and Dunta Robinson hasn't lived up to his contract and is pretty much superfluous with Asante Samuel and Brent Grimes. Abraham is a bit surprising, but this draft is pretty deep at the DE position so we'll see.

Don't worry Kris P. we're absolutely terrified of the Saints now that you got your coach back and all. And let's not forget Rob Ryan coming in and taking your defense from the drizzling shits to merely mediocre. You might as well book your ticket to New York now, 'cause the Saints are Super Bowl bound.

Fuck Michael Turner.

-Atlanta, GA

I wouldn't go that far. He gave it his all when he was in his prime. I'm thankful for him.

[Kris P Lettus]

The fact that the Saints 14-6 against ATL in the past decade is what you should be scared of..

[Next Big Thing]

And yet we still have more playoff appearances over that same period of time.

[Kris P Lettus]

And yet have less playoff wins and no SuperBowl wins..

[Next Big Thing]

Yet. Brees didn't win the big one until year 9. Matt Ryan is in year 5. Takes time for some QBs. The Falcons future for the next decade is a hell of a lot brighter than the Saints. I'll tell you that much.

[Kris P Lettus]

Wait when did Matt Ryan play in the Superbowl??

[Kris P Lettus]

think i missed that

[Emperor Smeat]

Randy Moss teases he might be retiring again after saying he has no plans to play for the 49ers next season.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Most national news outlets sent cameras to coverage Lauren Silberman's tryout at Jets camp. She was injured after two kicks. :o So much for that.</font>

[screech]

Madden 25 Cover Vote is on: Jerry Rice vs Cris Carter

[Supreme Olajuwon]

lol that's not a real vote is it?

[Kris P Lettus]

They were thinking of going Joe Montana vs Jeff Blake but they went with the WRs instead..

[screech]

lol that's not a real vote is it?

It was on the EA Sports Madden Facebook page. Mentioned a play-in round (which is what this is).

Thinking it will have multiple people on it.

[Emperor Smeat]

Breakdown of Flacco's contract:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2268635/flaccodeal.jpg

He has about $30-$51 million as guaranteed money for the first two years while the rest of the guaranteed money is dependent on if he ever gets hurt (fully guaranteed) or not (none guaranteed).

Also the cap hit starts to get brutal after Year 3. Best chance for the Ravens to repeat is next year since its just an $6.8 million hit on the cap.

http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2013/3/4/4064986/joe-flaccos-contract-full-year-by-year-breakdown

[Kris P Lettus]

Updated: 7:16 a.m. Tuesday, March 5, 2013 | Posted: 7:50 p.m. Monday, March 4, 2013

ON THE FALCONS BEAT

Keeping Ryan could cost nearly $140 million

Falcons are preparing to retain their franchise quarterback

By D. Orlando Ledbetter

FLOWERY BRANCH — Falcons owner Arthur Blank has walked down this gilded path before.

Back in 2004, he made Michael Vick the highest-paid player in the league with a 10-year $130 million contract.

Nine years later, the Falcons have closely monitored how Joe Flacco’s contract situation has played out in Baltimore.

Flacco, a quarterback from Delaware who was selected 15 picks after Matt Ryan in the 2008 draft, became the NFL’s highest paid player on Monday when he signed a six-year $120.6 million contract. A total of $52 million is guaranteed, the second-highest guarantee of any quarterback in history.
Ryan is set to enter the final year of the six-year, $72 million contract he signed in May of 2008. He had $34.75 million of his original contract guaranteed.

“It’s yet another comparable and data point for Matt Ryan,” said Andrew Brandt, ESPN’s NFL business analyst and former chief negotiator for the Green Bay Packers. “The gold standard was Drew Brees, at least on the average at $20 million (per season). Now, you have $20.1 million. It’s certainly a place they could look at as the freshest data point.”
When the time is right, Ryan appears set to join Flacco in the $100 million club.

“He should average at least $21 million, $22 million or $23 million,” said Joel Corry, a former sports agent who covers football business for the nationalfootballpost.com.

Under Corry’s forecast, a six-year deal for Ryan would fall somewhere between $126 million and $138 million with more that $60 million of it guaranteed.

Corry noted that Ryan is represented by Tom Condon of Creative Artists Agency. Condon also represents several of the league’s top quarterbacks including Peyton and Eli Manning, Matthew Stafford, Drew Brees, Robert Griffin III and Philip Rivers.

“The guaranteed money and what your first three years of compensation (is) the most important issue,” said Corry, who received his bachelor’s degree in finance from Emory. “I expect Matt Ryan to exceed $60 million in guarantees. He’s probably going to be at $65 million-plus over the first three years. That wouldn’t surprise me.”

The Falcons are trying to figure out how best to handle Ryan’s contract and craft his salary cap numbers in a way that will allow for the team to take on younger talent and remain highly competitive.

There is no internal debate about Ryan’s worth to the franchise.
“He’s our franchise guy that we’re very proud of, on and off the field,” Falcons general manager Thomas Dimitroff said. “Matt’s what we’ve been looking for in a quarterback.”

Head coach Mike Smith is also a staunch supporter.

“With quarterbacks, there are a couple of things that they are judged by and one is winning games,” Smith said. “Matt has done an outstanding job for us throughout his entire five years.”

Ryan and Flacco are inexorably linked. In addition to being selected in the same draft, they both started off as rookies who guided their teams to the playoffs.

Ryan has a 56-22 regular-season record. He’s led the Falcons to the playoffs in four of his five seasons and has won two NFC South titles. However, he’s 1-4 in the playoffs.

Flacco, with a much better defense, has enjoyed greater success in the postseason, leading the Ravens to the Super Bowl title in February.

Flacco has a 54-26 regular-season record. He’s taken the Ravens to the playoffs in each of the five past seasons and has a 9-4 postseason record.
Because of Ryan and Flacco’s early success, teams are starting to play quarterbacks earlier in their careers instead of letting them serve an apprenticeship on the sidelines with a clipboard.

The Falcons don’t comment about specific player negotiations, but have acknowledged that they plan to retain Ryan’s services.

“Every team is different, but if you’ve got a marquee quarterback, (a big contract) comes with the territory,” Corry said. “It seems like if you don’t have a marquee quarterback, you’re not going to win a Super Bowl or be in position to win one anyway. So, it’s kind of a nice problem to have to a degree.”

[James Steele]

Still think it is stupid to pay Joe Flacco that much.

[Droford]

Its stupid to pay flacco $120 but hey its alright if matt Ryan gets $140...;

9-4 in the playoffs with a team that's NEVER been the #1 seed in the playoffs vs 1-4 with a team that was a #1 seed twice. Hey, his stats are great though..actually..over 5 years Ryan has only thrown for 1300 more yards and 25 tds than Flacco while throwing 4 more ints. So Ryan only avgs about 260 yards and 5 tds more a year than Flacco..big deal

[Nark Order]

Matt Ryan is a better Quarterback than Joe Flacco, along with like 6 other guys.

[Nark Order]

You shouldn't be thanking Joe Flacco for your Superbowl win anyhow, you should be thanking Chris Culliver.

[James Steele]

My dick will be harder than a fucking rock when this blows up in the Ravens' face in a couple of years.

[Next Big Thing]

That article about Ryan is pure speculation on a slow news week for a guy who is the Falcons beat writer and needed a story. There's only so many Tony Gonzalez updates that can be made. The sports talk shows here were trashing it all day. I love Matty Ice, but unless he wins a Super Bowl next season and is the league MVP, he isn't getting $140 million.

[Next Big Thing]

Don't think the Flacco deal will hurt the Ravens that much. Worst case scenario, the team goes to shit and dude has to restructure. Of that $120 million, he's only guaranteed $52 million (still a lot of fucking money no doubt).

At some point, the NFL will have to raise the salary cap limit as well, so that should provide relief.

[Next Big Thing]

My dick will be harder than a fucking rock when this blows up in the Ravens' face in a couple of years.

HHH won't appreciate your penis forsaking him like that.

[ClockShot]

Shawn Merriman calls it a career.

[Kris P Lettus]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BErJBkRCIAA_XoN.jpg:large

[Innovator]

Kinda Superbowl related (WARNING: There is Vomit)

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[Emperor Smeat]

49ers dropped out of the potential list of teams willing to make a trade with the Jets for Darrelle Revis. Falcons are also rumored to be backing out as well.


Wes Welker is testing free agency this year after talks between him and the Pats broke down. Pats wanted him to lower his asking price for a new deal but he refused.

[Kris P Lettus]

Local Saints analyst was saying that if we go after any offensive free agents it woul;d be Delany Walker from the 9ers cause we let Baconator (Dave Thomas) go and he'd be a good compliment to Graham..

I said called that earlier in this thread but don't feel like searching for it..

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The Giants have about $9 million in cap room, but they need to still tender contracts to their restricted free agents which will take about $7 million, they're hoping to re-sign Boothe and Bennett before the free agent market opens, and they also need to save room for draft pick signings.

I read they might just move Diehl back to LG and let Boothe walk. I respect the fuck out of Diehl but I can't for the life of me understand how he hasn't been cut yet. Looks like Webster agreed to take a pay cut to avoid being released.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Apparently teams can begin contract talks with agents. However, no direct contact to players can be made until 4 PM on Tuesday.

As per usual, I imagine a flurry of signings will be announced right at 4.</font>

[Ermaximus]

I like Caldwell already. He cuts Whimper, tells Mathis "we don't want you back," and then tells Landry and Ross to pack their bags yesterday. Loving it. Now get rid of Laurent Robinson and Eben Britton.

[Kris P Lettus]

thought you were a niners fan now

[Corndad]

Steelers Release James Harrison. No Word if will be fined for being released. lol

[Krimzon7]

So happy to hear that James Harrison is gone from the Steelers.

[ClockShot]

Reports coming out of Baltimore are saying that Anquan Boldin ain't taking a pay cut.

Alot of big names going to free agency with all this penny pinching this offseason for alot of team.

I'd like to see Denver hook someone this offseason with some star power.

[Ermaximus]

thought you were a niners fan now
I was supporting them during the playoffs.

Reports coming out of Baltimore are saying that Anquan Boldin ain't taking a pay cut.

Alot of big names going to free agency with all this penny pinching this offseason for alot of team.

I'd like to see Denver hook someone this offseason with some star power.

You can have MoJo, In exchange for a 2nd and 7th?

[ClockShot]

MoJo in his heyday I would do in a heartbeat.

But since we're a little overloaded on runningbacks, and with Ronnie Hillman on his way to becoming a big time player in the future at the moment, I'll pass.

[screech]

So Boldin is gonna hang em up then (if those reports are/were true)? A shame. I'm a big fan.

[Droford]

I for see him not getting any better deals elsewhere and taking the pay cut. If he goes that's $7 million to use to resign other guys and they can draft another wr

[Droford]

And for everyone saying "omg, flacco's contract strikes..lol" his cap # this year is only $7 million. Suggs is a bigger issue at $13 million, rumor was they might try and restructure his contract..

[Next Big Thing]

I really think it's time for the NFL to raise the salary cap anyways.

[Droford]

They did raise it a few hundred grand..

[James Steele]

They should eliminate the salary cap. If you want to play with the big boys, then you better have a big boy bank account.

[James Steele]

http://www.pittsburghmagazine.com/Best-of-the-Burgh-Blogs/Pulling-No-Punches/May-2011/Why-the-NFL-Lockout-Should-Make-You-Madden-Than-Hell/Jerry-Jones-Money-Hat-2.jpg

[Droford]

With the panthers claiming poverty (lol) trying to get money for their stadium and then having it exposed that they made over $100 million..someone called into Ben mallers show and jokingly suggested that the state/local governments fork over so much tax money to fund stadiums that they should just outright buythe teams and run them. Would be a great way to ruin sports.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The cap needs to stay right around where it is because it's the main reason there is so much parity. It's not possible to keep all of your big stars forever unless they willingly take less money...and that in an of itself is rare. Guys need to make their money when they can, and they'll go wherever they can get the most guaranteed money.

With rookie salaries now somewhat controlled, now more than ever you need to be able to build a franchise from the draft.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Was reading that if the Giants work out long-term deals with Nicks and Cruz...then in 2014 Eli, Nicks, and Cruz could account for like $40 million against the cap (1/3rd of the current cap). :o And that's with JPP getting ready to look for his payday.

Years of restructuring deals is finally coming back to haunt them.</font>

[James Steele]

Good. Hope the Giants fuck off and die.

[owenbrown]

http://www.pittsburghmagazine.com/Best-of-the-Burgh-Blogs/Pulling-No-Punches/May-2011/Why-the-NFL-Lockout-Should-Make-You-Madden-Than-Hell/Jerry-Jones-Money-Hat-2.jpg

is that a dunce cap made of his own money? lol

[James Steele]

Yes.

[owenbrown]

would have been better if "I'm a Dumbass" was photoshopped on it

[James Steele]

He wears that hat when he gets him some glory hole.

[James Steele]

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[Emperor Smeat]

Minnesota reported to have traded Percy Harvin to Seattle in return for a minimum of at least Seattle's 2013 1st Round draft pick (#25).

[Next Big Thing]

Wow. Watching Seattle play San Francisco twice a year is going to be must see tv.

[Droford]

Harvin actually has to play for that to be a good deal

[Innovator]

I've watched this at least 20 times and it still hasn't gotten old.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18h6cw9zyv53ygif/ku-medium.gif

[ClockShot]

2 weeks ago: "We're not trading Percy Harvin."


Today: "Percy Harvin has been traded to Seattle."



I wonder what's going on in Ziggy's head these days?

[CSL]

I've watched this at least 20 times and it still hasn't gotten old.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18h6cw9zyv53ygif/ku-medium.gif

it's the lost fumble. Like, it would be still be pretty funny if he kept hold of the ball but to fumble and know that the Patriots recovered and ran it back for a TD is just :'(:'(:'(

[CSL]

dayum cuz, now the Niners trade for Anquan Boldin

[screech]

:(

[Innovator]

WOOOOOOOOOOO HOT FUCKING STOVE

[Next Big Thing]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>The best all around player I ever seen or you'll ever see! Goes to Seattle! I feel like I just got kicked in the stomach. Several times!!!</p>&mdash; Adrian Peterson (@AdrianPeterson) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdrianPeterson/status/311211381317836800">March 11, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Ooops.

[RoXer]

Congratulations to Anquan Boldin and Percy Harvin on being the 2nd and 3rd best receivers in the division.

[Emperor Smeat]

dayum cuz, now the Niners trade for Anquan Boldin

Yeup and all it cost them was a 6th Round pick this year.

[Nark Order]

What a bitter sweet acquisition.

[RoXer]

How was it bitter?

[RoXer]

Feel like that sixth round pick is really going to come back around and bite us like a fuedal Japanese sailor going overboard and being bit by a shark

[RoXer]

Ohhhh that loss of the sixth round pick will make me toss and turn like the Santa Maria on its maiden voyage

[CSL]

Congratulations to Anquan Boldin and Percy Harvin on being the 2nd and 3rd best receivers in the division.

like a Formula 1 car being driven by somebodies Nan, you gots to be able to throw him that ball cuz

[CSL]

just going to call everybody and everything "cuz" from now on I think

[The Condor]

Does the Revis/Broncos scuttlebutt have any validation or truth to it? Heard about interest in Mendenhall but a friend told me they were on to Revis and it kind of caught me off guard.

[ClockShot]

Does the Revis/Broncos scuttlebutt have any validation or truth to it? Heard about interest in Mendenhall but a friend told me they were on to Revis and it kind of caught me off guard.

Haven't heard anything but I don't want a headcase like Revis on my team. I know Champ's getting old, but I'll take any other corner than him. Probably can't afford him since we asked Elvis Dumervil to take a paycut.

As for Mendenhall, I see no need. We're heavy on runningbacks as it is.

[Nark Order]

Well I meant bitter sweet because he was a large reason we didn't win the Superbowl. Lol, he's gonna walk right up to Chris Culliver and be like "sup."

[#1-norm-fan]

A 6th rounder? Really? Is that all Boldin was worth to the Ravens at this point? Ridiculous.

[CSL]

cash money, was probs gonna get cut otherwise

[Triple Naitch]

Ravens had no leverage after Boldin said he'd retire.

[Droford]

A 6th rounder? Really? Is that all Boldin was worth to the Ravens at this point? Ridiculous.

Ozzie New some will use that pick to draft a decent player..

[Triple Naitch]

Ozzie Knew Some

[Ermaximus]

Ravens got fucked in that deal. Boldin is easily worth more than a 6th rounder.

The Super Bowl on the NFC side easily goes through the West this year.

[Droford]

Now that the Ravens have 13 picks they might trade em to move up in the first round

Also now almost $18 million under the cap they might go after a fa wr

[Droford]

I think the Ravens could get Greg Jennings for less than boldin was making this year on a multi year contract..he's just as much a clutch pass catcher as boldin is and almost 3 years younger

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Pay out the ass for the QB and then get rid of a top WR. :y:

[McLegend]

Lol if someone said that about Jennings over Boldin 8 hours ago you would have defended Boldin to the death.

[Emperor Smeat]

Unless Ravens want to enter a bidding war, no way Jennings goes to Baltimore. Colts and GB are being seen as the favorites for him right now with the Colts desperate to get him.

All those teams besides GB have double to almost triple the cap space Baltimore has should a bidding war start for Jennings.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Also told that Greg Jennings has received interest from the Rams, Colts, Browns, and Bengals, yet is still talking to GB about re-signing</p>&mdash; Shawn Zobel (@ShawnZobel_DHQ) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShawnZobel_DHQ/status/311166430139793408">March 11, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[#1-norm-fan]

Ozzie New some will use that pick to draft a decent player..

A better pick that the 5th or 4th round pick that I'm pretty sure someone would have jumped at the chance to give up for Boldin? That doesn't make much sense.

[Scott Roberts]

Reggie Bush probably won't return to the Dolphins. Not 100% confident in Daniel Thomas yet.

[#1-norm-fan]

I can see Miami picking up Felix Jones to back him up.

[Triple Naitch]

Honestly want nothing to do with Mendenhall. He's been a buffoon ever since he tweeted about 9/11 being an inside job.

[Ermaximus]

I can see Miami picking up Felix Jones to back him up.

Or Beanie Wells.

David Garrard is now a NY Jet. Their QB's just got marginally better.

[#1-norm-fan]

David Gerrard is officially the best QB on his team.

[Ermaximus]

David Gerrard is officially the best QB on his team.

Truer words have never been said.

[Emperor Smeat]

Eagles rumored to be the favorites right now for the Darrelle Revis sweepstakes while the Broncos have backed out.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>NFL: Report: Jets get 'good' trade offer for Revis <a href="http://t.co/xs9pVg31EG" title="http://dlvr.it/347MVr">dlvr.it/347MVr</a></p>&mdash; rotoworld (@rotoworld) <a href="https://twitter.com/rotoworld/status/311297500533362688">March 12, 2013</a></blockquote>
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The offer is classified as "good" in terms of compensation coming the Jets' way and the financial terms that would be extended to Revis. However, that financial package has yet to be shared with Revis and his representatives due to GM John Idzik not giving Revis' camp permission to discuss a new contract with other teams. The Falcons, Broncos, and 49ers have recently denied interest in Revis, but a rumor of Eagles GM Howie Roseman "crunching numbers" and "putting together an offer" for Revis surfaced on Sunday.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>God, please no Revis in the NFC East.</font>

[ClockShot]

Atta boy, Elway.

[McLegend]

The last big CB the eagles got didn't really workout that well if I remember correctly.

[Crimson]

Romo throws to Revis for the winning touchdown!

[James Steele]

Romo throws to Revis for the winning touchdown!

Glory Hole days will come again!

http://www.dallasnews.com/incoming/20120729-cowlishaw_0730spo006.jpg.ece/BINARY/w620x413/cowlishaw_0730spo006.JPG

[James Steele]

http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Jerry-Jones-cowboys-2009-christmas-party.jpg

[#1-norm-fan]

I was worried about Asomugah on the Eagles and they managed to screw that up. I have the same hope they can do that with Revis.

[CSL]

lol

Pranksters Record Two NFL GMs Discussing Free Agency Over The Phone. It's a brilliant prank, and it never should've worked. How did a couple of 20-year-olds listen in on two NFL executives talking shop the day before free agency began? A little luck, great timing, and a 73-year old general manager who doesn't really understand how telephones work. (http://deadspin.com/pranksters-record-two-nfl-gms-discussing-free-agency-ov-452366184)

audio of the call is on there

[Next Big Thing]

Buddy Nix sounds like such a bumpkin. It's kind of interesting insight into how GMs interact though.

[DaveBrawl]

Buddy Nix: the pride of Carbon Hill, Alabama.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Is Nix the guy who gave Fitzpatrick that hilarious contract?

[DaveBrawl]

That would be him.

[Emperor Smeat]

Tony Gonzalez announces he's postponing retirement for at least one year and will play next season for the Falcons.


Also its been reported that the Bucs have made a potentially better offer for Revis than what the Eagles offered on Sunday.
Citing a source with knowledge of the situation, Profootballtalk.com reports the Buccaneers are Darrelle Revis' likely landing spot if the Jets agree to terms on draft-pick compensation.

New York received what was classified as a "good" trade offer for Revis on Monday, and now Tampa Bay has been revealed as the team that offered it. PFT's Mike Florio believes the package will be headlined by a 2013 second-round pick or a future first-round selection due to the fact Revis is still in rehab mode from a torn ACL. The Jets are "poised" to act quickly on Revis, so this may be their opportunity to pull the trigger.

[Next Big Thing]

Nnamdi Asomugha is going to be cut according to ESPN. Seems like they're prepping for a Revis push to me. Rather him in the NFC East, than NFC South although Revis isn't shutting down Roddy, Julio and Tony G.

[Next Big Thing]

Martellus Bennett to Bears.

[Innovator]

Darn. I liked him last year.

[Evil Vito]

Sucks to lose Bennett, but the TE position has been a revolving door anyway. Mike Pope could probably find a way to coach one of us into a productive TE.

[Next Big Thing]

Ryan Fitzpatrick released. Buddy wasn't joking.

[Next Big Thing]

Mike Wallace to Dolphins. They might be a wildcard next year.

[Scott Roberts]

YES!!! Suck it!

[Emperor Smeat]

Ravens lose Kruger who signed with the Browns.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>The Browns reach agreement with former Ravens LB Paul Kruger on 5-yr/$40M deal. (via @<a href="https://twitter.com/adamschefter">adamschefter</a>)</p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/311580921759416320">March 12, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Wonder where Fitzy will go now. Might be the best option available for a team that needs a QB right now.

[ClockShot]

Wow, Eagles cut Asomugha loose.

That contract backfired big time.

[McLegend]

He sucks. Good luck to him.

I'm so glad he's gone.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Giants bring back Aaron Ross.</font>

[Evil Vito]

Dannell Ellerbe to the Dolphins

[Scott Roberts]

Linda's son? Sweet!

[CSL]

if Ed Reed doesn't end up re-signing, jaysus

[Triple Naitch]

Big fan of the Broncos signing Louis Vazquez.

[Emperor Smeat]

Current rumor from NBC Sports is the 49ers will go after Reed if Dashon Goldson ends up leaving them. Reed's current agent ia also the agent for both the GM and coach of the 49ers.

Goldson himself is currently meeting with the Bucs to see what they might be willing to offer him. Lions are also very interested in him.

[Innovator]

<font color=goldenrod>Giants bring back Aaron Ross.</font>

Dammit.

[screech]

Ravens lose Kruger who signed with the Browns.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>The Browns reach agreement with former Ravens LB Paul Kruger on 5-yr/$40M deal. (via @<a href="https://twitter.com/adamschefter">adamschefter</a>)</p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/311580921759416320">March 12, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Fuck

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Today hasn't been a total loss for the Ravens, as they sign Chris Canty.</font>

[Crimson]

Ravens aren't making the playoffs. Lock it. But at least they got their Superbowl

[Droford]

Ravens aren't making the playoffs. Lock it. But at least they got their Superbowl

Ellerbe started 14 games in 4 years, Kruger started 6. No way the to of them were worth a combined $75 million. Ozzie New some has let way better players than them walk for more money and it usually works out well. See Bart Scott, adalius Thomas, ed hartwell.last year in Ben grubbs, Cory redding and Jarrett Johnson..
All of them walked after having big contract years and outside of Thomas none of them did squat outside of Baltimore
That being said, losing Kruger to the browns does suck but whatever.

[Droford]

Ravens will draft Teo now..pretty confident of it

[Droford]

Also

@WNST Drew: Baltimore better get ready to start cheering for #JamesHarrison. I don't like it, honestly, but I don't run the team.

[Krimzon7]

God, If you're listening or reading this:

Please let this contract be the one thing that drives The Raven's Franchise into the ground.

:lol:

[Ermaximus]

<font color=goldenrod>Giants bring back Aaron Ross.</font>

Dammit.

You guys can keep him because he is absolute shit.

Looks like Knighton will be a Bronco next year. Not thrilled about that, but, Skippord, DaveBrawl, 3xNaitch, enjoy the man they call "Pot Roast" on your D-Line.

[Droford]

:lol:

Flacco's contract had nothing to do with this. Ozzie newome just does not like to pay players who have career years in contract years, especially linebackers. Before you say "but he paid Flacco!" Just shut up because he's played well for the majority of his initial contract. Ellerbe was on the verge of being cut during camp before this past season, his only saving grace was that Courtney upshaw was hurt. Upshaw improved a hell of a lot over the course of his rookie year.

[Innovator]

Sanchez's security blanket is visiting the Dolphins today

[Innovator]

Ravens continue to clear house, releasing The Patriot Killer Bernard Pollard.

[Innovator]

Rex will probably want to sign him.

[RP]

Paul Kruger would like to thank the Indianapolis Colts offensive line for making him look like J J Watt.

[The Condor]

Saw the Broncos are on to DRC. Very mixed feelings on this, good with Arizona, shit with Philly. But everyone was shit in Philly. Could be worse I suppose.

[Ermaximus]

Jags cut Laurent Robinson after 1 season. Thank fuck! This team is already better than it was last year. Now to get rid of Henne and Britton.

[CSL]

according to Bill Simmons, it's down to Denver and New England when it comes to Wes Welker. Manning to Welker :|

[James Steele]

Jerry Jones, wake the fuck up.

[Emperor Smeat]

Rashard Mendenhall signs a 1-year deal with the Cards

Reggie Bush signed with the Lions.

Ray Lewis becomes the newest member of ESPN's NFL team.


Ed Reed very close to leaving the Ravens according to Rotoworld:

Ed Reed - DB - Ravens PFT's Mike Florio is "getting the sense" the Ravens don't want to re-sign free agent Ed Reed.

The Baltimore Sun reported Wednesday morning the Ravens were "definitely not out of the picture" for one of their franchise cornerstones, but they're apparently getting ready to move on. It's what they're doing at seemingly every other position on defense. The loss of Reed would mean the Ravens need two need safeties after cutting Bernard Pollard. The Ravens are gutting the core of their team like few other recent SB champs.

[James Steele]

#LOLFUCKTHERAVENSYOUMURDERERLOVINGSACKSOFSHIT

[Emperor Smeat]

according to Bill Simmons, it's down to Denver and New England when it comes to Wes Welker. Manning to Welker :|

According to ESPN and Welker's agent, his decision is expected to be announced within the next few hours.

:wavesad: Welker. All signs are pointing to Denver grabbing him. If he does leave that puts the Pats salary cap space at around $30 million for this offseason.

[screech]

Bush to the Lions? Could be pretty good.

Big fan of him.

[Ermaximus]

Jerry Jones, wake the fuck up.

I'd laugh my ass off if the Cowboys resign Robinson.

[Droford]

Ravens forums with smart posters hqve cwlmed me down on pollard..and a thing to keep n mind all the defensive playersleaving were a part of one of the worst Raven defenses ever so cleaning hous a bit cant be mych worse and concensus is better players will be brought in through fa and draft

[The Condor]

Decker, Thomas... Welker? God damn I hope so

[screech]

Ravens forums with smart posters hqve cwlmed me down on pollard..and a thing to keep n mind all the defensive playersleaving were a part of one of the worst Raven defenses ever so cleaning hous a bit cant be mych worse and concensus is better players will be brought in through fa and draft

Team needed to upgrade on defense for sure. Didn't think so many people would go so quickly, though.

[James Steele]

There is a difference between revamping an aging defense and completely building a new defense.

[CSL]

Schefter reporting Welker/Broncos have agreed terms. Oooof

[Innovator]

That one hurts.

[The Condor]

Yes yes yes! Acting like Droford!

[Triple Naitch]

Love the signing, but I wanna see the Broncos get a DB.

[Next Big Thing]

Wow. Big move for the Broncos.

[Triple Naitch]

I can also see the Pats now signing Danny Amendola and him becoming a top 5 WR.

[The Condor]

Now a safety to replace Rahim Moore and Ill be happy

[James Steele]

ARE YOU IN A COMA?

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/692014/45422_cowboys_special_draft_camp_football.jpg

[ClockShot]

Decker, Thomas, and now Welker.

That's one lethal Wide Reciver corps. Manning got to work with.

IN YO' FACE, MCDEVIL!

[Emperor Smeat]

Broncos deal with Welker is a 2-year $12 million deal.

Brady also is reported to be furious at the Patriots for letting Welker leave especially for that small amount.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Spoke to someone close to Tom Brady. Beyond enraged at contract details that netted Broncos Wes Welker. "Disgrace""disservice" were used.</p>&mdash; Tom E. Curran (@tomecurran) <a href="https://twitter.com/tomecurran/status/311950200900055041">March 13, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[Triple Naitch]

Understandable. Brady renegotiated his contract to make his team better and then they get rid of his best target.

[#1-norm-fan]

I'd laugh my ass off if the Cowboys resign Robinson.

I actually wouldn't mind this. As long as he now realizes he's trash outside of Dallas and come for very little money.

[#1-norm-fan]

Understandable. Brady renegotiated his contract to make his team better and then they get rid of his best target.

Yeah, that's actually pretty retarded now that I think about it.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

FUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Giants sign Josh Brown to be their new kicker.

Bye bye Lawrence Tynes. Thanks for kicking the Giants to the Super Bowl twice.</font>

[CSL]

dunno, didn't he lose out to Nick Folk last year

[Droford]

Welker probably won't be as productive in Denver.. the patriots will find some cheap wr and turn him into a star.

[CSL]

Amendola just agreed to terms with them

[CSL]

and even if Welker isn't as successful there, somebody is going to be with having to cover all 3 of them/opening up the field

[Droford]

Until it gets cold and peryton seizes up again and can't throw the ball to any f them

[Next Big Thing]

Seahawks upgrade the pass rush with Cliff Avril. Really like the moves they're making.

[Ermaximus]

Love the signing, but I wanna see the Broncos get a DB.

You're going to get Knighton dude.

Ok, you did get Knighton.

[CSL]

Until it gets cold and peryton seizes up again and can't throw the ball to any f them

likely to happen given how much Peyton struggled during the wint...oh wait

[Evil Vito]

dunno, didn't he lose out to Nick Folk last year

<font color=goldenrod>I still trust him more than Tynes. Tynes just never seemed to have all that strong of a leg. Felt nervous if he came in for any attempt over 40.

Also they have David Buehler who Jerry Jones had a hard-on for for years for some reason. Not likely he beats out Brown in preseason, but I suppose it's possible.</font>

[Ermaximus]

Who the hell is Geno Hayes?

[FearedSanctity]

Decker, Thomas, and now Welker.

That's one lethal Wide Reciver corps. Manning got to work with.

IN YO' FACE, MCDEVIL!

lol

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Fuck you Welker. You never won a ring anyways.

[Ermaximus]

Fuck you Welker. You never won a ring anyways.

Ha! He will now.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

One catch would have given him that ring and he missed it. I doubt it.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Danny Amendola is now a Patriot.

[Ermaximus]

Danny Amendola is now a Patriot.

Pretty sure we know who Brady's new favorite target will be.

[Emperor Smeat]

All depends on how Gronk is for next season considering Welker was originally planned to have less of a role last season before Gronk (and Hernandez) got hurt.

If the TEs can stay healthy then Amendola youth and speed will make up for the loss of Welker's experience. Also gives Amendola time to get used to the new system and become their next "Welker" type player.

[Droford]

Danny Amendola is now a Patriot.

For more money than they offered Weller. That's funny

[RoXer]

dunno, didn't he lose out to Nick Folk last year

AS SHOULD EVERYONE

[Krimzon7]

Good Riddance Wes Welker. He's the Peyton Manning of Wide Receivers.

And Droford, you can rationalize this as much as you'd like. The Ravens are getting rid of them contracts to afford Flacco. Say Hello to Third (and Maybe 4th) place in the AFC North.

Dear God, since I'm on a roll, please let Cincy win the AFC North, with Cleveland finishing second, so Pittsburgh and Baltimore can look up and see what the 90's felt like to us.

[Droford]

Ravens are still going to win the division.

[Droford]

Ed reed is supposedly pulling a lebron James TV special on where he's going. As long as its not Pittsburgh or new England I don't really care. Probably could be Indy.

[Corndad]

Ed reed is supposedly pulling a lebron James TV special on where he's going. As long as its not Pittsburgh or new England I don't really care. Probably could be Indy.

lol He's not coming to the Steelers. Biggest signee we have so far is like Bruce Gradkowski. Yeah. Steelers really don't do Free Agency for some reason. Never have.

Browns are picking up some nice pieces so far. They will be most improved for sure next year.

[Droford]

Steelers don't need him, they have their own washed up fs

[CSL]

Broncos sign DRC

[CSL]

only a 1 yr deal as well, that could work out great for both sides

[The Condor]

That signing can go either way but I'll support it. A flurry of activity from Elway today

[Ermaximus]

Again I ask, who the fuck is Geno Hayes? I mean yes it makes sense for the Jags to sign him because nobody knows who the hell he is, but come on.

[The Condor]

Is he a Defensive Tackle?