Premiership Talk

[Wengerland]

It was a bit special though, he didn't exactly give them a chance to challenge him

Maybe,i wouldn't say it should be goal of the season though.

[Wengerland]

Lets Go Foxxxxxxxes!!!!!!:mad:

[Wengerland]

For ****s sake

We're down now.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Man.

I swear, they want to give me a heart attack.

Much as it pains me I don't think it's meant to be :-\

[Rob]

I felt for you there Kirky.

[Wengerland]

I would think Leicester and Wolves are down now,probably with Leeds seeing as they'll be without Viduka for a few games.

[toxic rooster]

Dude last time they were without Viduka, they drew Man U.

Who have they got next, Everton? :o

[Dazz]

Chelsea. :(. Seriously, if Jacko comes here and says Gudjonsen played well, I am going to <s>locate his seat at Stamford Bridge and punch him in the face </s> give him a bad rep. :mad:

Lampard needs a rest, Veron should play in his position against Aston Villa next game.

It was actually a good game, Boro have been one of the better teams I've seen play this season, there link up play when going on attacks is very impressive.

[diothoir]

Come on Leeds, you shower of bastids. :'(

[Dazz]

Leeds are going to stay up. :|

[The Mask]

I hope they don't. That'd be hilarious.

[Dazz]

I know. I REALLY want them to go down. But it looks like they are staying up. I wouldn't be suprised if the three promoted teams last year go down.

[toxic rooster]

So I suppose this is one of those anti-Leeds forums then?

*casually notes that Wee Gooner has a tenner on Leeds staying up, before bolting for the door*

[Wengerland]

Dude last time they were without Viduka, they drew Man U.

Who have they got next, Everton? :o

They don't really have anyone else to score as many though.

[yianni]

I would laugh my f</>ucking arse off if Leeds stayed up.

[toxic rooster]

I would keep my fu</>cking ten bucks if Leeds stayed up :mad:

[Rob]

Leeds are still going down.

[toxic rooster]

:mad:

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I wouldn't get too excited about Leeds quite yet. They've beaten the team with the worst home record in the premiership, even we beat them and we hadn't won away all season and they beat Leicester at home and that was only because of a really late goal after it looked like they'd let it slip.

Don't get me wrong, good on them for getting the points but i dont think they're out of it yet.</font>

[Wengerland]

Yeah,i think(and hope) that we'll win at Blackburn.

Leeds' first against us was offside also.

I honestly can't see them scoring too many without Viduka,i mean he's got like 4 in 4 and Smith has probably got that amount in 8 or 10.

[Wengerland]

0-0 at half-time in the Arsenal/Newcastle game.

Arsenal look likely to score soon though.

[Dazz]

My prediction is 1-1 with someone getting a penalty (most likely Arsenal because Pires is a diving cunt)

[Cactus Sid]

0-0, what a sh</>ite game

[Wengerland]

Henry missed an open goal.:eek::o

I thought the second half was ok in terms of being pretty open but there wasn't many shots/good openings.

Defensive points for my BBC team though.:D

[Cactus Sid]

Yeah, its pretty hot, I got 18 from Henry/Pires on Friday, and I've got 3 from Bernard today

[Wengerland]

rats

Looks like you could have overtaken me again.:(

[toxic rooster]

Oh great, Jacko replied in the Champions League thread.

I bet it will be all like "Eidur Godjohnsen was great even though HE'S A LAZY CU</>NT. I'm a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and I like to sniff my own butt" :mad:

[Wengerland]

I bet it will be all like "Eidur Godjohnsen was great even though HE'S A LAZY CU</>NT. I'm a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and my butt smells and I like to sniff my own butt" :mad:

slight edit :( lol nonetheless.

Oh man,even though Leicester are doing crap i do love the Easter period-no school and lots of football. :heart: :love:

[Wengerland]

Just checked some team news and why do United have to bring back van Nistelrooy and Keane for this game.I mean it's not like we're a team you need your first team to beat.:'(

[Cactus Sid]

You at home or at the crumbling mess that is Old Trafford?

[Wengerland]

Old Trafford,it's on prem+.

[Cactus Sid]

Oh dear, you going down....

Although I did just read Van Nistelrooy's out

[Wengerland]

Given our home record it is probably better that we're away:p

The regional teletext sport has misconstrued what Micky Adams has said about it.It quotes him as saying something like most people have counted us out of this match but i haven't,and then the title on the main page says 'Adams-Leicester will beat Man Utd':$

I do keep getting flashbacks to the last time we won there though...

[Dazz]

Oh great, Jacko replied in the Champions League thread.

I bet it will be all like "Eidur Godjohnsen was great even though HE'S A LAZY CU</>NT. I'm a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and I like to sniff my own butt" :mad:

:lol: :love:

[Wengerland]

Melchiot.:wtf:

Mutu has also been quite poor,Crespo has looked ok most of the time though.

[Dazz]

Melchiot should be subbed for Gallas. He is letting Baryy piss all over him, he gives Barry a ridicoulous amount of time on the ball, way too much of it, then Barry just whips in a ball for Crouch. :mad:

Mutu's problem is that he keeps tracking back into midfield, and that he keeps taken the ball off other players, and then has no options because Crespo is up there on his own and being marked by a load of them. Mutu might as well be subbed because he can't score for shit. He should also start playing in midfield as he has the best work rate in the team and is very creative.

[Dazz]

Righto, here is my opinion:

Aston Villa are one of the teams I now like in the Premiership, they don't cheat, they have a young squad, they play well together, they made it fu</>cking hard for Chelsea out there today. Jay Lloyd Samuel, Barry, Hendrie and Hitzspilger are very good. Crouch looks like a retarded goofball.

Ranieri needs to sort himself out, Melchiot was at fault for the first and second goals, and partly the third, since he gave away the throw. And then to bring off an attacker, fair enough Mutu was never likely to score, but to play with a lone striker when you need 2 goals is fu</>cking ridiculous. When he said that he has conceded the league title to the Arse, I didn't realise he meant he has also conceded second place to United :|. Still, Ranieri should be given at least till christmas.

Crespo should be the man more often, that was a great goal at the end, and he was in the right place for the first, he set up Joey Cole for a good chance but it was slightly high for Cole, but Cole should have done better. If Gronkjaer whipped that ball to Crespo near the end after beating the attacker for pace, I think we would have drawn 3-3.

Lampard needs a rest, he is too tired, let either Veron (I know he was injured in the warm up) or Mutu play in his position next match, we need him for the final 4 league games of the season.

Huth is the fuc</>king man, he is solid, always puts his body in the way of the ball, and belted that free kick, shame it wasn't on target. :$

I said this last season, and I will say it again, we should sell all our dutch players, Jimmy is more toruble then he is worth, Melchiot has been rubbish for 2 years, Zenden is the only one I like, and he won't want to stay with us.

[Cactus Sid]

HUTH is indeed the man

Liverpool proved once again they are sh</>ite, and its the same old story. Win a few, lose a few. It masks the fact that Houllier is doing a terrible job, and as far as I'm concerned I don't care if we qualify for the Champions League or not, he's got to go. We are not seriously up sh</>it creek. Newcastle need a win to go 2 points clear, and if Charlton win their game in hand they go ahead of us, its a fu</>cking travesty. Even Villa, Birmingham, Middlesbrough and if they win tonight Fulham, are within 3-4 points of us, its completely shambolic.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Man, Dave Jones is tearing Uriah Rennie a new one in the post-match interview. I've never heard him go off at a ref like that :o

Still, having said that, *another* last minute goal conceded :-\ Eh, there's still a chance but we need to win at least 3 of our last 5, and I'm not sure we can.

Plain truth of it is you can't ship goals like we have and stay up. Defence is not good enough; Irwin should've retired at the end of last season, Butler and Craddock are by turns ok and shockingly retarded, and Lee Naylor is barely good enough for Div 1. I'm not so sure it was that bright of an idea to bring in Paul Jones when Michael Oakes was doing the best he could either.

I hope we can keep the basis of the squad together cause we should be able to come straight back up. For some reason Camara's on fire right now (4 in 4...why couldn't he play like this from the start? :| ) and Cort should score buckets in the Nationwide. We're gonna have to replace at the least Alex Rae, which will be difficult cause he's by far and away our best player this year and Colin Cameron is not good enough. We've still got Jo Lescott to come back though and if we ship out some of the dead wood like Iversen, Blake and so on, I'm pretty hopeful to come back.

I just hope West Brom f</>uck up and have to stay down :mad:

[Cactus Sid]

I was so gutted for you :(

[Wengerland]

Yeah good stuff from Crespo.

I think you're being harsh on Ranieri though,after all Chelsea are 6 points ahead of United(probably 3 after tomorrow) and i think even if you guys lose at OT then you'll be ahead on goal diffference.If you finish 2nd and maybe get to the champions league final then i think Ranieri should should get that extension to his contract for 2 or 3 years.Considering what he has done this year,unless next season starts very badly for Chelsea,that giving him to Christmas would be unfair.

On the substitions i agree,i would've bought Gudjohnsen on as even though he's said to be lazy he could be dangerous.I reckon we are in the same boat on opinions about our clubs' managers decisions cause i often wonder what Adams is doing(mainly in playing Scowcroft) but the rest of the fans love him,same for Ranieri.

I though i read Zenden wanted to go back to Chelsea a while back though,unless he can get a move back to Spain.

[Wengerland]

Pompey are safe i reckon,have to see how Leeds go without Viduka but Blackburn are looking too poor now anyways so i think Wolves,Leicester and Blackburn after these games.

Tempted to get some hope if we win tomorrow but the home form has been too poor to survive in any division.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Great result for Pompey :y:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

As a thought, I don't think any of the clubs fixing to come up are going to poise a problem as it stands. West Brom *might* have a chance if they come up due to their experience but I wouldn't count on it. Norwich's main weapon is Darren Huckerby...nuff said. Only team I can imagine having a chance is actually Sunderland, though they'll need beefing up too.

[Wengerland]

Yeah that's what is pretty annoying,we didn't play West Brom or Sunderland last year i don't think any other team has looked better than Wolves and Leicester.I guess considering how many each promoted side bought in in the summer i should give them a chance.West Brom,for me,come across as lucky quite often,i mean they haven't seemed prolific at home and they definetly won't win so many away in the premiership.

I guess we won't have much of a squad left if we go down,most players were bought in until the end of the season with a view to extensions so that we wouldn't have a financial problem if we went down.Morris and Dickov up front could be good.

[Rob]

At the end of the day, Wolves aren't good enough to stay up. But even their biggest haters have to admit they have had practically every decision and piece of luck go against them this season.

Personally, I think Wigan might stand a decent chance of doing something next season if they go up. They have the resouces and the fanbase so you never know.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I dunno about them having the fanbase but they've got the stadium and a decent squad, I think they're a very under rated team.

Today was greatness, Eyal Berkovic had a fight right infront of me :love: the place went mental when Taylor handballed it and the ref was aweful, he was lucky we scored from that freekick and we finally got a penalty, I couldn't believe it :eek:

Birmingham brought what looked like the minimum allocation, they didn't sing, you couldn't even hear them when they scored and they started sneaking out with 20 mintues left :|! They didn't look anything special to be honest, if they dont keep Forssell or get a replacement I think they're going to be in trouble next season. We'll see eh?</font>

[The Mackem]

I'm pretty sure any team that goes up from the first division will go straight back down. Norwich have excellent loan signings but can they do it two seasons running? West Brom have improved their team but I guess are still not good enough to survive in the Premiership and well we have a squad cut back to his his bones since last season and probably don't have the resources to stay up. Most of the teams in Division 1 are far too inconsistent, they could beat a team in a similar position to them one week and then the next get totally hammered by a bottom side.

[Wengerland]

Yes,2-1 Fulham at half time.

[Dazz]

Yeah good stuff from Crespo.

I think you're being harsh on Ranieri though,after all Chelsea are 6 points ahead of United(probably 3 after tomorrow) and i think even if you guys lose at OT then you'll be ahead on goal diffference.If you finish 2nd and maybe get to the champions league final then i think Ranieri should should get that extension to his contract for 2 or 3 years.Considering what he has done this year,unless next season starts very badly for Chelsea,that giving him to Christmas would be unfair.

On the substitions i agree,i would've bought Gudjohnsen on as even though he's said to be lazy he could be dangerous.I reckon we are in the same boat on opinions about our clubs' managers decisions cause i often wonder what Adams is doing(mainly in playing Scowcroft) but the rest of the fans love him,same for Ranieri.

I though i read Zenden wanted to go back to Chelsea a while back though,unless he can get a move back to Spain.

I never said I wanted Ranieri out though, I am not your average fickle fan, I think he has done a good job this season, but it is clear that we will never win the league unless he gets rid of some shit players, and starts playing our best players more, to really hit form you need to have a good run in the team.

The match at Old Trafford isn't my only worry, Leeds at home will be tough as shit, seriously, look what they did last year against the Arse on the second to last game, 3-2, kept them up, I can see that again, as again, its right near the end of the season. Also, playing Newcastle at their gaff is going to be tough. I really think second spot is Uniteds.

Zenden has said he wants to play Champions League football, but he also wants to play regulary, he is not garunteed that at Chelsea, I would be shocked if he stays, I think he will just stay at Boro and play in the UEFA Cup.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Blackburn winning 4-3 :|

[Dazz]

Yeah, good game to watch. Well, I only saw the last hour, so I only saw 1 goal.

[Wengerland]

Fulham's defending was worse tonight than Leicester's most of the time.:|

Thanks for condeming us to relegation.:y:

[Cactus Sid]

Bollocks :mad:

[Wengerland]

I dunno how they can be so good defensively away and then poor at home.

I mean they kept Arsenal to 0,won at Man United and tbh we battered them without scoring on saturday.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">both sides were shocking :| Little disapointed Fulham picked this match to have a defensive nightmare though. Oh well</font>

[Wengerland]

Seeing as i reckon that may have blown our chances of survival it seems that Wolves are definetly in der bions.:'(

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Personally I think all it takes to stay up is a good goalkeeper and defence. When we played Southampton we were in the relegation places and Southampton were comfortable midtable. Both teams had scored the exact same number of goals for the season, the only difference was the number conceded and talking to Adam and looking back if we hadn't had defencive lapses against Charlton, Man City, Arsenal, Blackburn etc at the beginning of the season when we were on top during games we wouldn't be where we are now.

And looking at the number of goals Leicester have let in in the last few minutes aswell, just shows all you need is a good defence. </font>

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Well just look at what Birmingham were doing for the first 15 or so games of the season with not much more than a solid defence.

[Wengerland]

Yeah,i thought Dabizas would have done better for us.I'd prefer to seen the old defense more of a chance because for a lot of last season it was the best in the country.

We've improved a fair bit,clean sheets against Liverpool,Birmingham and Wolves within the last 8 games or so,the Leeds game was quite a blip and looking back to the Fulham game i felt we were unlucky seeing as the lads thought the offside flag was going up on the first and the second was just a breakaway goal,can't be faulted for that.

If we had 5 points from the Middlesbrough and Wolves away games which we should have won then things would be better.

[Rob]

Birmingham have just made a £6 million offer for Kezman from PSV.

[Cactus Sid]

Birmingham have just made a £6 million offer for Kezman from PSV.

No fu</>cking way, if Kezman goes to Birmingham I will be unbelievably shocked.

Mexes will sign for Liverpool if we get in the Champions League

[Cactus Sid]

Where did you hear that?

[Wengerland]

That would be good for them,if they can keep Forssell for another year at least then those two up front should be great.

Roy Keane has come out of international 'retirement' or exile if you will,and RvN has been linked with Barcelona.:love:

[Rob]

The Kezman thing came up on my Sky Sports PC update pop up thingy when I was on the boards. The story is now posted on Planet Football.

[Wengerland]

0-0 at half time,last i heard Leeds were losing so its going well.

We have more or less matched them,and had more clear cut chances(less said about Izzet's shot the better though,and Stewarts near half time.:$)

[toxic rooster]

Leeds 1-1 Everton

Apart from soccernet.com's Gamecast, are there any other decent live commentaries on the net?

[Team Sheep]

live score centre on skysports.com is pretty good.

[toxic rooster]

Does it give commentary or just scores

[Wengerland]

If you go to skysports.com on a saturday then they have the audio of the guys who watch matches and summarise.They go to reports a lot too.

Anyway,1-0 defeat but not as bad as i thought,if show that much passion against sides like Blackburn on saturday and maybe Charlton then we could still have a chance of staying up.Overall i think the lads did well,got into a slight argument with my dad about it too cause he was just constantly criticising the team.

Shame about the one defensive lapse from Dabizas because United,apart from a few Ronaldo efforts didn't look like getting another.Also,3rd time in 3 games that stupid offside decisions have cost us goals and probably points.

[Cactus Sid]

They played well for what they had. Obviously they don't create a whole hell of a lot, but they battle hard, and at set pieces they look really dangerous.

Didn't rate United at all tonight, just like they've played for most of the season, they just seem to lack the cutting-edge that Arsenal have, but to be fair they do grind out results.

Still at a loss about why the United goal stood, 3 players offside? Or is it this new "rule" thing? I dunno.

[Wengerland]

Exactly,Saha was way offside and the ball was played in his direction(fair enough it went past him to Ronaldo) but he's still the one the players have pushed up to catch offside.

This new rule is completely crap,its like they thought ' hmm,these linesmen are making a few bad calls....i know why don't we make it even harder for them.'

Seriously they should just go back to flagging anyone who is offside,not bother whether they are interfering or not seeing as if they aren't interfering then why are they on the pitch,stood in that sort of position?

[toxic rooster]

Different subject - do you think this odd point will eventually help Leeds to survive, or will they drop anyway?

[Dazz]

Different subject - do you think this odd point will eventually help Leeds to survive, or will they drop anyway?

I think they will stay up, not because of that point, I cans ee them being at least 3 points clear of the drop zone. Leicester and Wolves are goners, just a question of who goes with them, Pompey have to face Arsenal and United still, I don't like their chances of survival. :'(

[Wengerland]

Nah,i think Leeds are gone without Viduka.I think Portsmouth are less likely to go down than Blackburn becuase Pompey can win a few home games and probably win at Leicester aswell,and get something from Leeds.

[toxic rooster]

Gee, it's gonna be a real shame if the three teams that were just promoted all go down straight away.

But apart from Leeds, most of the teams in the relegation battle (Wolves, Pompey, Leicester, Blackburn, Man City) have all been promoted in the last few years anyway.

Here's the remaining fixtures for the 6 clubs in real relegation trouble (Totts and Everton are mathematical chances, but I don't think they'll sink that far in 6 games)

<b>Wolves</b>
v Boro
@ Birmingham
v Everton
@ Newcastle
v Tottenham

As it stands, Wolves are 9 points from safety. So they'd have to win every game at home, and get at least an away point against Newcastle or Birmingham. That is, provided every other team loses as well. In short, Wolves are <b>doomed</b> - Sorry MMM

<b>Leicester</b>
@ Blackburn
v Man City
@ Charlton
v Pompey
@ Arsenal

I'm not sure that Leicester are as doomed as they appear. 3 of their remaining games are against sides at the wrong end of the table, 2 of which are home games. Not to mention the away game at Ewood Park, where Blackburn haven't managed a win in ages. Charlton with renewed hope of Champions League football may be a bit of a tough one, though. On the last day of the season, they travel to Highbury, where Arsenal has likely already sealed the title. They could field an understrength side for this one, but just remember last year after they lost the title against Leeds, they fielded a side which thumped Southampton 6-1. I wouldn't be writing Leicester off yet, though. The upcoming Leicester games will probably shape this relegation battle.

<b>Leeds</b>
@ Arsenal
v Portsmouth
@ Bolton
v Charlton
@ Chelsea

Leeds have had some shocking losses this season, (4-0 Leicester, 4-0 Everton, 6-1 Pompey, 4-1 Arsenal, 4-1 Birmingham etc.) and have a very poor goal difference of -29. Simply put, they have to beat the other teams on points, because if they're level, Leeds will drop due to goal difference. They have a very important game against Pompey, who have a game in hand on their rivals. They have three very tricky games to come, away to Arsenal and Chelsea, and home to Charlton. Leeds can pull a result out of their arses when it counts though, as they did last season at Highbury. Chelsea may become a different proposition if second spot is sealed for either them or Manyoo. They also have to play Bolton at Reebok, where Bolton has only managed 2 wins since the turn of the year, both 1-0. For a side that was playing a Champions League semi only 3 years ago, this is a very important period for the club. Time for the Smiths and Vidukas to shine. I tip <b>Leeds to survive</b>, if only just.

<b>Portsmouth</b>
v Arsenal (Postponed)
v Manyoo
@ Leeds
v Fulham
@ Leicester
v Boro

Portsmouth probably have the hardest set of fixtures to come, having to host both Manyoo and Arsenal before the end of the season. That being said, they do have a game in hand, and any points taken from these 2 matches is a bonus. They are capable of taking points from top sides too, as they have at Highbury earlier in the season. They also have to travel to Elland Road and the Walkers, two games which will again shape this battle. Both Leeds and Leicester will really aim up in these games, which promise to be very entertaining. They also host Fulham, where the faint hope that Fulham can qualify for Europe will make this a tough game. Lastly, they host Boro who have a poor away record. I'd love to see Portsmouth stay up because of their fans :love: (and this is from a Gooner), and I'd say <b>they're about 50-50</b>.

<b>Blackburn</b>
v Leicester
@ Everton
v Manyoo
@ Tottenham
v Birmingham

Blackburn are less than a game above the drop zone. Their form against other sides from the bottom of the table has been atrocious (1-1 Man City, 2-1 losses to Portsmouth and Leeds). If this form continues, it makes the games against Leicester, Everton and Tottenham very interesting. They also have to play against Manyoo, who will be holding onto hope of 2nd place, and Birmingham who are dreaming of Europe. You can never trust Blackburn, they bounce around the table like a yo-yo. Last season was a good one for them, they even did the double over Arsenal. This is very much like the year when they went from champions to division 1. I will make a bold prediction, <b>Blackburn will go down</b> because you just can't trust them to get a win, can ya?.

<b>Manchester City</b>
v Southampton
@ Leicester
v Newcastle
@ Boro
v Everton

7 wins. This whole season, Manchester City have had 7 wins. The only teams worse than that are Wolves and Leicester (5 wins), and as it stands, they are in deep, deep shit. 13 draws, 13 losses. Basically, Man City win once every 5 games. Which means they probably will only win one of their remaining fixtures, and tie or lose the rest. I know a draw is better than a loss, but just..barely. At least what games they have lost, haven't been by much. If Man City can stay level with their rivals, they will survive, because they have the best goal difference of -1. Their last win was against Manyoo, and that seems a long time ago, doesn't it? I really can't trust Man City to take enough points from these games to survive, though they probably will take some points from Boro and Leicester. My pick is, <b>Man City are 50-50</b> to go down.

[Wengerland]

Well we also haven't won a home game this year so that need to change,Popmey were able to get something from Charlton so if they go complacent we may have a chance there.I was thinking the same thing about Arsenal myself a few days ago but then i remembered that they're unbeaten all season,if they haven't lost going into the last game i can't see them fielding a poor side,especially after being knocked out of Europe.

I'm afraid we have drawn too many aswell.

[toxic rooster]

Leeds v Arsenal - I'm not sure who to go for :'(

On one hand, I've got 10 bucks riding on Leeds to beat the drop and this is an important game

On the other hand, I'm a Gooner

Dilemma, dilemma :mad:

[Wengerland]

No-one's games against the top teams(out of the bottom clubs) will matter really,they'll be expected to lose so anything positive is a bonus.

E.g tonight,i was pleased to see more passion for the cause and,although they were below average,we matched a Man Utd team for a while.

[toxic rooster]

Yeah I was watching that this morning

The commentator goes "And for those of you just tuning in, Manchester United's solitary goal was scored by Gary Neville. Honest, please believe me"

Being 6 in the morning, it was fooking hilarious :lol:

But out of the games remaining, Leeds definitely need to take some points from a top club. Even if they beat Bolton and Pompey, I'm not sure it will be enough to ensure they survive.

[Wengerland]

Yeah they said he averages about 1 goal per 100 appearances.:'(

[Cactus Sid]

Final League Table

1 - Arsenal 92
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2 - Man Utd 82
3 - Chelsea 81
4 - Liverpool - 58
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5 - Newcastle - 56
6 - Charlton 56
7 - Aston Villa 53
8 - Birmingham - 53
9 - Middlesbrough - 52
10 - Southampton - 49
11- Fulham - 48
12 - Bolton- 47
13 - Everton - 44
14 - Tottenham- 43
15 - Man City - 40
16 - Portsmouth - 40
17 - Leeds - 39
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18 - Blackburn - 36
19 - Leicester - 31
20 - Wolves- 30

This is what I think

[Wengerland]

Damn,i was looking for my Predictions thread at the old forum but looks like it's been deleted.:(

I think i said Leicester to finish 15th or something so that is wrong,but that's all i can remember.

[yianni]

Come on Leeds, please survive. :(

Well summed up Gooner.

[Rob]

I don't think Liverpool will end up 4th. Struggle for 5th even. They need a new gaffer fast.

As for my bottom 6 (well the rest don't matter since Arsenal have won it).

Portsmouth - 41
Man City - 39
Blackburn - 36
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Leeds - 34
Leicester - 33
Wolves - 27

[Dazz]

I really can't see Pompey staying up, Leeds will stay up. But yeah Wolves and And Leicester are goners. :wavesad:

[Wengerland]

Keeping The Faith....just says:
Leeds will go down a bit points and goals wise without Viduka,i still think we'll win at Blackburn ad maybe Man City and you'll win at our gaff.

[Cactus Sid]

I don't think Liverpool will end up 4th. Struggle for 5th even. They need a new gaffer fast.

As for my bottom 6 (well the rest don't matter since Arsenal have won it).

Portsmouth - 41
Man City - 39
Blackburn - 36
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Leeds - 34
Leicester - 33
Wolves - 27

I've got Liverpool down to play crap in the next 5 games, but a win against Fulham, and go into the last game behind Newcastle, pulling out the win.

I was a bit more optimistic for Leeds as they will win most of there home games, and that would put them above Blackburn.

I notice your very pessimistic towards City and Liverpool :p

[Cactus Sid]

PFA PLAYER OF THE YEAR NOMINATIONS

Thierry Henry
Patrick Vieira
Alan Shearer
Frank Lampard
Jay-Jay Okocha
Steven Gerrard

PFA YOUNG PLAYER OF THE YEAR

John Terry
Glen Johnson
Scott Parker
Wayne Rooney
Kolo Toure
Shaun Wright-Phillips


Personally I'd go with

1- Thierry Henry
2- Steven Gerrard
3- Frank Lampard

1- Shaun Wright-Phillips
2- John Terry
3- Kolo Toure

Basically, Henry has been beyond amazing this season, he has to win the award. I out Gerrard just ahead of Lampard because Gerrard has single handedly taken Liverpool to within Champions League contention. Without him, we'd be battling Relegation, I honestly believe that. Lampard has been immense, but his impact on the team hasn't been what Gerrard's has been at Liverpool.

Shaun Wright-Phillips should get the award, not because he's had a better season than Terry or Toure, but because he is the breakout player of the season. He's come a really long way from the start of the season, and I think that deserves the award. Terry just ahead of Toure, because Terry has proved he is the best centre back in the country this season.

[Wengerland]

Has to be Henry for the PFA,but interesting there aren't any United players.:o

I would go with John Terry for the young player but i would have though he'd have been too old to qualify for that.Wright-Phillips second and Toure third.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">what the hell is Jay Jay Okocha doing on there?! He hasn't got any league goals this season. The only game I can remember him being really good was in the League Cup against Villa.

And I dont think Glenn Johnson should be on there because he's not even a first team regular. Surely someone like Forssell has a better claim to be there?

Henry and Terry for me.</font>

[Y2Ant]

Calm down Pricey

Henry and Wright-Phillips 4 me

[The Mask]

where the f</>uck is ronaldo on that? :|

[Wengerland]

Actually yeah,Ronaldo should be there instead of Glen Johnson.

[toxic rooster]

I'd say Henry and Toure, but only because

a) I'm hopelessly biased towards Arsenal

b) Toure has really emerged this season to solve Wenger's centre-half problems

c) John Terry has a ridiculous haircut :mad:

d) I don't really get to see any Man Citeh games :mad:

[Dazz]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">what the hell is Jay Jay Okocha doing on there?! He hasn't got any league goals this season. The only game I can remember him being really good was in the League Cup against Villa.

And I dont think Glenn Johnson should be on there because he's not even a first team regular. Surely someone like Forssell has a better claim to be there?

Henry and Terry for me.</font>

I 100% agree there Rob.

Jay Jay was much better last season, and has been rubbish this season. Melchiot plays much more then Johnson, also Johnson does score the odd good goal, he doesn't play regulary and has a bad attitude problem.

I think Forssell should be there, the guy has been great, and if Ranieri doesn't bring him back and play him next season, I will not be suprised as he won't be there. But whoever is manager better bring him and Bolo back.

Henry MUST win PFA player of the year, it really cannot be anyone else. and although this is slightly biased, super JT for the young player of the year, I love him.

[Dazz]

Actually yeah,Ronaldo should be there instead of Glen Johnson.

Why, because he has played well for the last 3 games. :|

I'm not saying Johnson should be there, but fu</>ck off should Ronaldo.

[Frank Grimes Jnr]

c) John Terry has a ridiculous haircut :mad:

:mad:

LMAO!!!! :rofl:

I'm surprised no one ever mentioned that before. You'd think with all the money hes getting he'd be able to afford a decent haircut.
Anyway, my predictions are: Henry
Wright- Phillips

[toxic rooster]

Something is seriously fu</>cked up if Henry doesn't get it

[toxic rooster]

Hillsborough anniversary today

Always makes me sad, dunno why.

I was only 2 at the time

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Why, because he has played well for the last 3 games. :|

I'm not saying Johnson should be there, but fu</>ck off should Ronaldo.

Ronaldo has been excellent since December.

The awards are decided on performances up to January though.

[Rob]

I notice your very pessimistic towards City and Liverpool :p

I had City picking up 5 points. I can't see them getting results against Newcastle or away to Boro. Any other time I would have Everton beating them too but I think they'll actually get 3 pts there.

I don't know Liverpool's fixtures but I just think they'll choke and either Newcastle or even a sneeky Charlton will top them. Wouldn't rule out Birmingham either.

[Rob]

Ronaldo should definately be there.

Henry can't lose it.

[Wengerland]

Why, because he has played well for the last 3 games. :|

I'm not saying Johnson should be there, but fu</>ck off should Ronaldo.

That's 3 games more than Johnson has played well. :wave:

[Cactus Sid]

I don't know Liverpool's fixtures but I just think they'll choke and either Newcastle or even a sneeky Charlton will top them. Wouldn't rule out Birmingham either.

I had Liverpool down to lose to United and Birmingham, but Newcastle and Charlton are sh</>ite away and have some difficult matches (if I remember rightly) so I think we'll just sneak it.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Charlton are sh</>ite away

1-0 at Anfield :o

[toxic rooster]

Anfield = Liverpool, tho :o

[The Mask]

Yeah, but Wayne Rooney has done pretty much fu</>ck all, all season, and he's on there. Ronaldo has consistantly been our best player.

[Cactus Sid]

1-0 at Anfield :o

Anfield = Liverpool, tho

But for the fact this is true, I'd get seriously pissy

Charlton are way too inconsistent, particularly away from home.

[Cactus Sid]

Arsenal are just....amazing

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">wow.

I know how those Leeds fans are feeling right now :o!</font>

[Cactus Sid]

I hope Leeds go down, because their fans are a bunch of cocks, no-one fu</>cks with Harry Redknapp :mad:

[packt up]

YEAH IM BACK.

Arsenal kick ass - Henry we should all just bow down and stuff :(.

Hmmm other stuff - Newcastle COME ON we can get fourth. Still going to be real tough - Soton away, Liverpool away - and of course Villa away :$.

Henry obviously for player of the year, I would go for Terry for young player.

Leeds to be the third team to go down.

[Rob Ban Fan]

I hope Leeds go down, because their fans are a bunch of cocks, no-one fu</>cks with Harry Redknapp :mad:

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I was sitting their thinking "you're not really in the position to be singing that are ya?" :p</font>

[packt up]

I hope Leeds go down, because their fans are a bunch of cocks, no-one fu</>cks with Harry Redknapp :mad:

What?!? I obviously missed that what happened?

[toxic rooster]

Shit, I dunno whether to be gutted or celebrating

I'm a Gooner and we've basically got one hand on the trophy

But I'm also probably gonna lose my 10 bucks now because I bet Leeds would stay up :mad:.

Wow, did you see Pires' goal (the first one of the game)? That's why I love Arsenal. I don't think there's any way Bergkamp could have known Pires was where he was when the ball was played (prove me wrong on this), but he played it out there anyway. Love a simple thing like Arsenal's passing...awww :love:

[Rob]

Of course he knew. That's what makes him a good player.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

1-0 to the Pompey boys :love:

[Cactus Sid]

1-0 to the Pompey boys :love:

:love: :love: :love:

Up the Pompey

[toxic rooster]

Oh this is huge

[toxic rooster]

Of course he knew. That's what makes him a good player.
But he didn't even have to look to know that Pires would be on the end of it. He just played the ball and trusted.

That's team unity and communication and all that for you

[Cactus Sid]

POMPEY :love:

Great win against 12 men, albeit Taylor did handball it, but hey, how many decisions went against them over the 90

[Cactus Sid]

Now got Chelsea down to finish 2nd by a point, and Pompey to finish above Man City

[Wengerland]

Play Up Pompey,Pompey Play Up.:D

[Rob]

Good stuff Portsmouth :y:

[Rob]

But he didn't even have to look to know that Pires would be on the end of it. He just played the ball and trusted.

That's team unity and communication and all that for you

That's pretty much what I said.

[Wengerland]

Dabizas you tit:mad::|

[Wengerland]

Now we're going to finish bottom.:-\

I guess if we beat Man City next week there's a chance,but still :|

[Mr. Monday Morning]

No you need to draw with Citeh :shifty:

HAVE IT MILLS YOU C</>UNT

[Cactus Sid]

I've now got....

Man Utd to finish 2nd regardless of what I said after the Pompey game, by a point. Newcastle to finish 4th on Goal Difference, Wolves to finish 19th, Leicester bottom, and Man City, rather than Blackburn, to be relegated

[Rob]

I think Pompey beating us have fu</>cked it for the rest of you now. Unless Man City don't pick up the 5 pts I thouht they would (and they dropped one of those today). If Leeds and City went down, I'd laugh myself to instant death.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I bloody hope Leeds go down since they deserve it as much for the shocking state of the club itself as the team's crapness.

[Hired Hitman]

Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve Stoooooooooooooooooooone :cool:

[Team Sheep]

Newcastle only 1 point behind liverpool with 2 games in hand. :D :D :cool: :cool:

[Wengerland]

Pompey,pleeeeeeeeease beat Leeds.:(

[packt up]

Well done Pompey :D :D :D Definite pen at the end but I guess they deserved their luck.

We better get fourth now :( Still tough but the other teams are basically trying to hand it to us :$.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Steve Stone ran over and celebrated the goal like right infront of me :'(!

To be fair to Nikos Dabizas, if he hadn't put it in, Stead would have, atleast it shows he was trying to clear the ball and he's up for the cause, which is a good thing for Leicester.

Camara's goal for Wolves :eek: if he keeps up his form y'never know what might happen for Wolves... and even if Wolves do go down, if they can keep hold of him he will eat div 1 defences alive and they'll nearly definatly come straight back up.</font>

[Wengerland]

Yeah,i didn't realise it was an unfortunate own goal.The commentators on the radio went abit o.t.t when describing.

I'm not so sure about us or Wolves getting straight back,i mean we'll each lose a lot of players and won't get a lot of money to bring players in.

-edit- Players like Sinclair,Gillespie,Scowcroft should be sold regardless of the league.Scowcroft if we stay up but the tactic of playing him wide last year worked so i think it could again in divison 1.

[toxic rooster]

O'Brien sent off after 9 minutes :|

[Dazz]

This game is getting stupid, Hendrie has play acted twice, Bowyer dived, Bridges dived, everyones trying to get the opposition srent off, Knight doesn't have a clue what he is doing in this match, Vassell hit his right foot on the floor and then went down. Given has been time wasting ALL game.

Still, I hope Villa win.

[Wengerland]

Finished 0-0.

Lee Hendrie needs to sort himself out,sportsmanship wise.

[packt up]

0-0 Meh.

Didn't see the game so I can't comment on what happened though I would like to hear SO TELL ME :(.

[Skeletor2]

0-0 Meh.

Didn't see the game so I can't comment on what happened though I would like to hear SO TELL ME :(.

Well Villa dominated the first 10 minutes and O'Brien got sent off for wrestling Vassell to the ground when he was the last man. Newcastle then got fairly comfortable with 10 men (Viana came on for Robert and Jenas off for Bowyer).

Vassell had a goal ruled out right before half time for supposedly tripping Aaron Hughes, but to be honest was a bad decision.

Craig Bellamy limped off after about 15 minutes of the second half with a hamstring injury :roll:.

The game boiled over towards the end, particularly with Hendrie's play acting and targeting of Gary Speed. Given was time wasting all match and got booked in like the last minute. Good point for Newcastle under the circumstances. Villa only had 1 shot on target all match.

[Skeletor2]

Looks like Bellamy and Jenas are out of the match with Marseille :wavesad:

[Dazz]

Well Villa dominated the first 10 minutes and O'Brien got sent off for wrestling Vassell to the ground when he was the last man. Newcastle then got fairly comfortable with 10 men (Viana came on for Robert and Jenas off for Bowyer).

Vassell had a goal ruled out right before half time for supposedly tripping Aaron Hughes, but to be honest was a bad decision.

Craig Bellamy limped off after about 15 minutes of the second half with a hamstring injury :roll:.

The game boiled over towards the end, particularly with Hendrie's play acting and targeting of Gary Speed. Given was time wasting all match and got booked in like the last minute. Good point for Newcastle under the circumstances. Villa only had 1 shot on target all match.

This is exactly what happened. EXCEPT, you clearly see Vassells right foot (accidently) hit the ground,w hcih is why he went down, but O'Briends hand was on Vassel so it looked bad from the refs point of view.

Vassell was unlucky for the ruled out goal, but as they pointed out after the match, he didnt complain that it was ruled out.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I'm not so sure about us or Wolves getting straight back,i mean we'll each lose a lot of players and won't get a lot of money to bring players in.

Actually I'm not too sure about that for us at the mo...Irwin is going to retire but we're pretty much playing Clyde there fulltime now anyway. The area we'll need to replace is central midfield, cause Ince and Rae aren't going to stick around. But aside from them, I think we can keep the team together.

[Wengerland]

Silas:o

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I doubt he'll stick around :$

[The Mackem]

Let's face it, if any team get relegated from the Premiership nowadays they're f**ked.

[Dazz]

I agree with the Mackem, teamsd that get promoted have 2 choice, spend fu</>ck all so that if they go down they aren't ****ed, or bring in some new players, in which case if they go down they are fu</>cked, and if they stay up they have to build, or they will do an Ipswich.

And any team that isn't newly promoted has a big wage bill, and really is in the shitter. God I hope Blackburn and Leeds go down.

[toxic rooster]

Leeds v Pompey

OH!

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

It's gonna be HUGE!

[Heyman]

Premiership is gay. :n:

[Heyman]

Leeds v Pompey

OH!

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

It's gonna be HUGE!


Go Leeds go!

[The Mask]

Go Leeds go!


NO, NO HEYMAN, NO :mad:

[toxic rooster]

NO, NO HEYMAN, NO :mad:
NO, NO THE MASK, NO :mad:

[Heyman]

Don't worry Mask - In my opinion, the Premiership is like the Special Olympics. There are no winners..........just losers.

[The Mask]

Don't worry Mask - In my opinion, the Premiership is like the Special Olympics. There are no winners..........just losers.

i should destroy you for using the old special olympics thing :rant:

[toxic rooster]

Don't worry Mask - In my opinion, the Premiership is like the Special Olympics. There are no winners..........just losers.
Except for Arsenal :D

[Dazz]

Don't worry Mask - In my opinion, the Premiership is like the Special Olympics. There are no winners..........just losers.

LOL. But seriously, Leeds to go down. :y:

[toxic rooster]

:mad:

[Dazz]

You can stick your money up your arse Wee Gooner. Leeds deserve to go down.

[toxic rooster]

Viduka :mad:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Pie-eating fat bastard.

On another note, Camara has said he wants to stay even if we go down :love:

[Wengerland]

Oh man,and the only player who's said he'll stay here if we go down is Walker:$!

Nah j/k he's been our best player recently,it was just on that CM game.:mad:

[Rob]

Paul Dickov would still be your best player had it not been for a little spell inside in Spain.

[Dazz]

Dickov is still the man. Walker is a clutz.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Wolves will have Murray and Lescott back too and I reckon if they do go down, they'll come back up as champions next season (unless City go down and keep Keegan in charge, in which case I reckon they'll do it because of the style he plays).</font>

[The Mask]

Damnit, I get unbelievably stressed every time I see that nike advert with ronaldinho in it.

WHY THE F</>UCK DIDNT WE SIGN HIM AISJFIASJDISD

like we couldn't afford the extra 3 million or whatever it was :mad:

[The Comet Kid]

Leeds are going down, I put 40 quid on them getting relegated back during pre season :cool:

And then Milner Smith and Robinson will be off :)

The question is which shit striker will Middlesborough sign for about 8m? Heskey? Forlan? or Viduka? :D

[The Comet Kid]

Damnit, I get unbelievably stressed every time I see that nike advert with ronaldinho in it.

WHY THE F</>UCK DIDNT WE SIGN HIM AISJFIASJDISD

like we couldn't afford the extra 3 million or whatever it was :mad:
Ronaldo + the 15m we saved is better. It'll help us sign Van der Vaart or Joaquin this year :)

The signing I was gutted about was Duff :( That was a player that WANTED to play for us and would have been quality.

*sighs* :'(

[The Mask]

we won't though. It'll be like "cool, let's sign van der vaart" and then he'll go somewhere else cause Ajax wanted more, and then we'll buy some jobber from france that'll rot on the bench :mad:

maybe we won't this season, since we did shit, but we probably will :'(

[The Comet Kid]

we won't though. It'll be like "cool, let's sign van der vaart" and then he'll go somewhere else cause Ajax wanted more, and then we'll buy some jobber from france that'll rot on the bench :mad:

maybe we won't this season, since we did shit, but we probably will :'(
Hey hey, we're not Liverpool or anything :D

Looks like the board are letting Ferguson do some major signing, thankfully they've realised what a threat Chelsea are.

We're meant to have bid Forlan and 20m+ for Torres from Atletico and rumour has it that 20m and Butt and Forlan were offered to Everton for Rooney earlier this week.

I reckon we could see two major signings this summer. Hopefully Torres and Van der Vaart and a couple people leaving like Butt and Forlan. Plus we'll have Liam Miller :cool: and probably a defender though once Brown and Rio are both fit and availible we should be able to manage.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Hahahaha

http://www.football365.com/features/fun_features/story_107227.shtml

The Gary Neville Diaries

Monday
Still can't believe he sent those text messages to yukky girls too. Everyone knows girls smell. Have been crying every night for a week. Told Mum it was Phil's fault and she made him stand in the corner. Even when his wife was there. Ha.

Still got one text message from him. The special one - 'I'm going to hold you down and **** your *******'.

Later: Have looked in Mum's crossword dictionary. Thicko spelt 'shave' and 'moustache' wrong.


Tuesday
"And the ball falls to the brilliant Gary Neville with his lovely thick moustache and he makes no mistake and lashes home the ball. The crowd go wild - there's nobody these Old Trafford fans love more than Gary Neville...And there's Sir Alex Ferguson with a tear in his eye. He loves Gary and his thick moustache like a son..."

Sir even patted me on the back and said 'Well done, Phil'.

Bet Rebecca 'Stinky' Loos (ha) couldn't score against Leicester.


Wednesday
Gave Sir the tea cosy I knitted to match the doilies. Think he liked it because I saw him smile when he showed it to Keano. Maybe I should do one for him too. In green :-) Then maybe he won't tie my shoelaces together again :-(

Went to Mum's for tea. Ran the length of the kitchen to appeal her decision to let Phil lick out the cake bowl. Made Mum cry but at least I got to lick out the bowl!

Moustache definitely looks thicker today.


Thursday
Said 'howdy' to Tim in training and he told me to '****ing **** off you little ****'. Said 'yo' to Rio and he said exactly the same. Maybe this Tourettes thing is spreading. Would tell Sir but think he's got it too.

Saw 'Stinky' Loos on TV. She looks really smelly. Tried to draw a little moustache (not mustach, thicko) on her face but she kept moving.

Update: This marker was permanent. Mum says I need to buy her a new TV.


Friday
Not fair, not fair, not fair. Graham Poll is in the papers saying I'm a diver but Mum says I can't call The Sun and say he's got a big bum. It's not fair because he started it. And he has got a big bum.


Saturday
"And the ball falls to the brilliant Gary Neville with his lovely thick moustache and he tries an audacious overhead kick. Is nothing beyond the talents of Old Trafford's favourite son? But a cheating, handballing nobody who plays for a nothing team pushes the ball over the bar to deny brave Neville, his thick moustache and the greatest team in the whole wide world yet another goal..."

The referee didn't crack like Mum did. He didn't even cry. Gave Matt 'Who?' Taylor my nastiest glare after the game. And then I saw his Mum and glared at her too. His Dad was bigger than me so stopped there.


Sunday
There's another yukky girl in the papers telling yukky stories about how yukky David made her feel so yucking special. How can he do this to me?

Watched a programme about skin grafts - they take the skin from a place that nobody sees and put it in the place where you need the skin. Has given me an idea about thickening my moustache...

[The Mask]

Thursday
Said 'howdy' to Tim in training and he told me to '****ing **** off you little ****'. Said 'yo' to Rio and he said exactly the same. Maybe this Tourettes thing is spreading. Would tell Sir but think he's got it too.

:lol:

[toxic rooster]

Ahh football365 :love:

[Wengerland]

Went to Mum's for tea. Ran the length of the kitchen to appeal her decision to let Phil lick out the cake bowl. Made Mum cry but at least I got to lick out the bowl!

lol,also at the Thursday one.

Good stuff

[Rob]

Hey hey, we're not Liverpool or anything :D

Looks like the board are letting Ferguson do some major signing, thankfully they've realised what a threat Chelsea are.

We're meant to have bid Forlan and 20m+ for Torres from Atletico and rumour has it that 20m and Butt and Forlan were offered to Everton for Rooney earlier this week.

I reckon we could see two major signings this summer. Hopefully Torres and Van der Vaart and a couple people leaving like Butt and Forlan. Plus we'll have Liam Miller :cool: and probably a defender though once Brown and Rio are both fit and availible we should be able to manage.

I'd rather keep Forlan than waste that money on Fernando Torres. I'll take Joaquin and Van Der Vaart though thanks very much. If Man U want to bid for an Igor Tudor or Carlos Puyol too then that would be nice.

[Dazz]

we just need to sell sell sell. and bring in one top class attacker.

[The Comet Kid]

I heard a rumour that Bruno Cheyrou is the new Zidane, Chelsea could buy him :D

Whats wrong with Torres? :?:

[Rob]

Nothing. I just don't think he is any better than Forlan really and we need more age up front anyways since we will have Ronaldo (and Joaquin with any luck) in midfield.

[The Mask]

We need another left winger too really, cause giggs can be awesome or utter shite, during any given match. joaquin is right wing, right? and i think ronaldo can play on the left so that could work, but still :rant:

I think we're going to have to find a good defensive midfielder and another good forward, along with some world class defenders. We don't have much depth anyway so I don't think we need to sell anyone bar the dead weight.

[Rob]

I thought about Ronaldo up front and on the left but I still want both Joaquin and VDV.

[The Comet Kid]

Its likely to be Joaquin or VDV not both, couldnt afford both and it'd be a bit unneccessary.

Id rather have VDV, he can play on the left, in the scholes role or upfront. Forlans pretty certain to go, hes not happy at Old Trafford anymore and its pretty obvious we're in the market for a striker. Torres and Rooney are the two we're alledged to have bid for and we're scouting a 21 year old from parma whos scored 17 goals this season already, and thats pretty good considering its the Serie A and hes so young. Kezman from PSV is going for 6m and hes got a good record so I hope we at least give him a look.

Next year we'll have Keane, Phil Neville, Djemba Djemba and Miller capable of playing as a defensive mid fielder and we may or may not have Butt (probably not).

If it was me Id go for Torres, VDV and Vincent Kompany and sell Forlan, Giggs and Butt. Should get about 20m for those 3 which would really help our buying power.

[The Mackem]

Stay away from John Oster :(

[toxic rooster]

Get out of the "Premiership" thread, mackem boy :mad:

[The Mackem]

I'm here by invitation plus for my years of Premiership experience as a Sunderland fan :(

[toxic rooster]

So, how many lights are there in the Stadium of Light, Sunderland boy?

[The Mackem]

As far as the eye can see :cool:

It's cool, at night they used to have four "Batman" lights (except with out the bat sign) that you could see for miles but then when we hit financial difficulties they cut it back to one hour a night unless there was a night match on.

[toxic rooster]

:mad:

Stupid Brisbane, the last time they turned on Batman lights here was when they had that World Expo thing in 1988 :mad:

So, promotion, eh?

[toxic rooster]

You mean these babies? :naughty:

http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/Pages/images/gallery/stadium-of-light.jpg

[The Mackem]

Oh yeah :cool:

[The Mackem]

:mad:

Stupid Brisbane, the last time they turned on Batman lights here was when they had that World Expo thing in 1988 :mad:

So, promotion, eh?

Looks like the play-offs is our best bet and given our recent history with those, that's not a good thing but third time lucky maybe?

[toxic rooster]

Well if Wolves can get promoted, anything can happen in a playoff...

*runs before MMM shows up with baseball bat*

[packt up]

Stadium of Shite :mad:

[The Mackem]

Stadium of Shite :mad:

This is a Necastle supporter (also known as a Skunk).

Notice his ridiculous accent and pronouncation of "Shearer" as SHEEEERAR!

[toxic rooster]

I get it, because he's a Northern muppet :mad:

*aware of irony of being in the southern hemisphere*

[toxic rooster]

Shit, that stadium must really use up the juice being lit up like that, though

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Well if Wolves can get promoted, anything can happen in a playoff...

*runs before MMM shows up with baseball bat*

It was karma for us completely choking the year before :wavesad:

[packt up]

Well at least our stadium is always full :roll: :P Last season was a joke - not only were you shite :P but all your fans just deserted the team and left the stadium half empty sheesh!

Lol at those batman lights too (though they do look quite cool :$)

[Cactus Sid]

Mackem is no longer welcome in this thread :D

Norwich promoted

[packt up]

:cool:

[toxic rooster]

Who are you talking to, packt up?

Oh, my pick is Norwich will stay up at the end of next season. Remember where you were when Wee Gooner made that pick, folks :o

[Wengerland]

I don't think Nowwich will get too much money anyway,but i reckon they'll feel players like Huckerby are good enough when,in reality,they aren't.:-\ Unless they have improved.

Muzzy Izzet will probably be going to Birmingham at the end of the season,though Villa and Charlton are also keen,but the his agent said he'll be going nontheless.:'(

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Taylor - Upson - Savage - Izzet - Dunn - Forssell

is a pretty damn good spine of a team, if they can keep Forssell that is

[Dazz]

REALLY hope they don't keep Forssell.

[packt up]

Who are you talking to, packt up?



I was gloating at the dirty Mackem :cool:

[The Outlaw]

I was gloating at the dirty Mackem :cool:

You like it dirty :naughty: :shifty:

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">to be fair, I think its a bit early to be calling who is going to be going down and staying up next season when we dont even know who's going up with Norwich yet :D And we should probably give them a chance to buy some players in the summer before we write them off, for all we know Delia could invest her entire fortune in them and buy them a load of world class players.

However, I think its more likely they'll stick with Mattias Svensson and Huckerby with a few free transfers and hopefully it works for em. :o</font>

[Wengerland]

Taylor - Upson - Savage - Izzet - Dunn - Forssell

is a pretty damn good spine of a team, if they can keep Forssell that is

Yep,and with two of the most successful Leicester midfield of recent times. :'(

[Rob Ban Fan]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/bolton_wanderers/3651125.stm

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Bolton are likely to sign Rivaldo :|</font>

[Mr. Monday Morning]

what :|

[Dazz]

Yep, thats right.

I doubt he will go, they wont pay him enough.

Remember the time he almost joined Spurs, and then went to AC Milan? Well, I bet some big(ish) club who thinks they can control him signs him instead.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

<---- :D

[Dazz]

What are you smiling at

[yianni]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/bolton_wanderers/3651125.stm

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Bolton are likely to sign Rivaldo :|</font>

:|

[toxic rooster]

:|

[Wengerland]

yeah that is crazy,now people are going around acting like it's a done deal.:|!

Dunno whether to read too much into it,i mean if he's coming in to replace Jay-Jay,seeing as he's out of contract.

[Dazz]

Reports suggest Lampard might be going to Inter.

Reports.

[Wengerland]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/3651831.stm

Blues 'stall over Lampard'

Now i can see why Abramovich isn't thought of too highly,i mean giving Lampard a new contract is a no-brainer.

[Dazz]

No, Abramovich isn't thought of too highly because he has been trying all season to replace Ranieri, and fu</>ck up our team, this is just the latest case of it, although I don't believe reports.

[Wengerland]

I was just saying that he wouldn't be thought of highly because of decisions such as that one.:mad:

[The Comet Kid]

Rivaldo's agent says he thinks Rivaldo will be a Bolton player in the next 48 hours. He'll also be availible to play the last few games of the season too

[Rob]

Yep, thats right.

I doubt he will go, they wont pay him enough.

Remember the time he almost joined Spurs, and then went to AC Milan? Well, I bet some big(ish) club who thinks they can control him signs him instead.

He is saying he already made up his mind whether to join or not before he came to England. Don't see why he would bother coming if he didn't want to sign. It's a far bigger shop window than the Brazilian league. Shame everyone still remembers him for being a diving little tosser.

[Wengerland]

Personally i remember him for being the man at Barcelona,seeing as they're one of my fave clubs.

That diving statement could be used about so many players now i've decided to just go on footballing merit/skills.

[Dazz]

I remember him for scoring a free kick at the Nou Camp with 7 minutes to go in the 99/00 season, had he not have scored, Chelsea would have gone through to the semi finals and played Valencia. Instead the game went to extra time and they beat us 5-1 :$, the 24 hour coach journey home would have been much better had we won.

:foc: Rivaldo

[Cactus Sid]

He is saying he already made up his mind whether to join or not before he came to England. Don't see why he would bother coming if he didn't want to sign. It's a far bigger shop window than the Brazilian league. Shame everyone still remembers him for being a diving little tosser.

If he comes to England and plays for Bolton, there's a good chance he'll never play for Brazil again, where as he probably would if he stayed in Brazil.

[Rob]

If he comes to England and plays for Bolton, there's a good chance he'll never play for Brazil again, where as he probably would if he stayed in Brazil.

There is a chance he'll never play for Brazil again anyway. Juninho plays for Boro and gets a game for them. Gilberto, Edu and Kleberson all still get call ups and they play here. The Brazilian squad has many many players in their squad over the years from clubs a lot smaller than Bolton.

[Wengerland]

We're down

[Dazz]

Gary Neville gave away a bad penalty. Theres a suprise, the gu can't defend for shit, he seems to be good attacking, but he really is a shit defender, lost the game against Portsmouth, and now could (probably wont coz I'm sure Liverpool don't know how to keep a lead) cost them again.

[Dazz]

BIG RUCK AT <S>FILBERT STREET</S> THE WALKERS STADIUM. Been a big ruck because Leicester were awarded a penalty. This looks hot, everyone came on the pitch, even Keegan, stewards came on too. Wanchope booked, two others have been booked too, D'Urso can't control players for shit. LOL this sounds funny. MUST watch the Premiership tonight

[Mike the Metal Ed]

shit.

[Cactus Sid]

Gary Neville gave away a bad penalty. Theres a suprise, the gu can't defend for shit, he seems to be good attacking, but he really is a shit defender, lost the game against Portsmouth, and now could (probably wont coz I'm sure Liverpool don't know how to keep a lead) cost them again.

Oh well....turns out we can actually defend anyway.... gave you a hand eh?

COME ON!!!

[Wengerland]

****ing hell

[Dazz]

Oh well....turns out we can actually defend anyway.... gave you a hand eh?

COME ON!!!

Indeed it did give us a hand. Nice one Pool.

You defended well agaionst us at the Bridge at the start of January, and I used to think your defence was really good, but you have always seemed like your defence is a mess and unrelaible. Kinda like United's if you ask me.

Still, I think we will lose to the Geordies, it means we can afford to lose, just as long as we go to Old Trafford and win. :|

[Wengerland]

We're gonna be the new Derby now,i.e go down and do crap.

[Cactus Sid]

Liverpool tend to play well against the top teams, almost like they're up for it. Chelsea home and away we played well, Arsenal home and away we played well, Man U at home we were crap, but away, we won, so thats good. We played well up at Newcastle, and I think we'll beat them on the last day of the season. I guess the best teams bring out the best in us.

Chelsea for 2nd now, Liverpool for 4th, thats what I've got.

[Dazz]

Liverpool tend to play well against the top teams, almost like they're up for it. Chelsea home and away we played well, Arsenal home and away we played well, Man U at home we were crap, but away, we won, so thats good. We played well up at Newcastle, and I think we'll beat them on the last day of the season. I guess the best teams bring out the best in us.

Chelsea for 2nd now, Liverpool for 4th, thats what I've got.

We have to play Newcastle and Man United away. Leeds at home on the last day, I don't fancy us for 2nd. Leeds will be fighting for survival, and as they showed against the Arse last season, they can do the good teams even away.

[Cactus Sid]

I think you can get a point out of Newcastle and United, and you'll beat Leeds.

[toxic rooster]

True, but you're forgetting the fact that my grandmother's lawn bowls team could have beaten Arsenal's defence in that game :(

Oh, was I the only one that thought Dickov's penalty was going to be saved the second the ref pointed to the spot?

[Dazz]

I think we are capable of beating Newcastle, Man United and Leeds, I just don't think we will.

[Dazz]

True, but you're forgetting the fact that my grandmother's lawn bowls team could have beaten Arsenal's defence in that game :(

Oh, was I the only one that thought Dickov's penalty was going to be saved the second the ref pointed to the spot?
We didn't see it over here. But I thought he would score, but its one of those where theres shitloads of pressure and you have to really hold your nerves. Good save apparently.

[toxic rooster]

I dunno what it was, I just...knew that James would save it.

Granted I had the same feeling when Murphy took his penalty for liverpool :-\

[Wengerland]

Why the hell did it take the ref 5 minutes to get round to the penalty being taken from when the decision was made? That had to be playing on Dickov's mind,but yeah i thought he'd score.

[Dazz]

Why the hell did it take the ref 5 minutes to get round to the penalty being taken from when the decision was made? That had to be playing on Dickov's mind,but yeah i thought he'd score.
Yeah thats what I meant by the pressure on Dickov, emotions were running high, the fans were in full force, Dickov HAD to score if you want to stay up, especially with City in the position they are in.

What a choke artist

[toxic rooster]

West Brom promoted again :o

But how many chances did Anelka have to bury Leicester (and Leeds probably too) today?

[Wengerland]

Yep.The only 3 players who are good enough for the premiership are leaving us at the end of the season.

That being Bent,Ferdinand and Izzet btw.Walker probably is too i guess.

[toxic rooster]

Yeah couldn't they have picked a better name than Izzet, it's very confusing

Because the commenator will be all like "Scowcroft, Izzet"

And I'll be going "IS IT WHAT"

and he'll be all like "Izzet"

and I'll be all like "IS IT WHAT"

[Wengerland]

There's been a few occasions when they just say "IZZET"

*then he shoots*

"IT IS!!!!!!!!!11"

Anyway,looks like we'll have to get something from Arsenal and thats just hoping Man City lose all their games,though i reckon we'll lose all our remaining matches and finish bottom.

[Cactus Sid]

*Searching for Man U fans*

:D

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I feel a bit sorry for the way Norwich and West Brom have been promoted this year, they've both gone up because other teams have failed to win games, rather than them beating teams and going up.

Just seems a bit of a shame since I can remember us playing Burnley and Rotherham last season and the atmoshpere was amazing. :(</font>