Premiership Talk

[Cactus Sid]

Apart from that, the guy is also an atrocious cu</>nt. He isn't averse to a bit of government-sponsored murder.

Yeah I did a bit of background research this arvo about the guy, not the most pleasant of people.

And yes, that is an understatement

[Rob]

I'd be curious to see how many of those people were Scottish ex-pats as oppoosed to fans native to those countries.

Well in Japan and Sweden, they were definately natives. The rest are debatable or I can't remember.

[Smell It?]

Rob is deluding himself in here if he thinks Dado is joining Rangers for anything other than money. The guy obviously lacks ambition as he apparently rejected Milan for Rangers, according to the ever so reputable Daily Record.

Boumsong has also stated his desire to leave Rangers after 2 years. Thats the plan, join on a free, get used to British football and move to a Premiership club.

All this 'great' talk about Murray Park and their training facilities being the best for the youngsters coming through yet this season Celtic won all 3 Championships. The SPL, Under 21's and U19's. Stick your Murray Park up your ass.

Rangers are in £65m debt and even Murray has said that they only get away with it because of his role at Rangers and the finances he pumps in. The bank would be looking very unfavourably at them otherwise.

Celtic are the best team in Scotland. Rangers need a lot more than Prso, Rae and Boumsong. As for Marvin Andrews. Is that supposed to put fear in Celtic fans? :rofl:

Dado and Boumsong are there for the pay packets. They're hardly there to win trophies now are they, considering Celtic are about 5 years ahead of Rangers.

[Ogen]

So Rangers bring in far more money than Monaco do year after year and play in front of 50,000 people every week and they aren't bigger than Monaco? Next thing you'll be telling me is Porto are bigger than Man United because they knocked us out of Europe.

Nobody said Monaco aren't a better team. Read the words carefully.

Its easy to bring in 50,000 fans when your one of the only two teams playing a decent game of football in your leauge though.

[Cactus Sid]

Liverpool have been linked with Dawson (about time), Barton (potential, but it could be the potential to be the new Lee Bowyer) and Shaun Wright Phillips (would be amazing)

Gronkjear has supposedly agreed terms with Birmingham

[Cactus Sid]

Oh, and Tottenham have released Poyet, Anderton and Ziege

Personally, I cannot believe Ziege has left them

[Razor Rybek]

Oh, and Tottenham have released Poyet, Anderton and Ziege

Personally, I cannot believe Ziege has left them

Yet they gave Jamie Redknapp a years extension!?

O Spurs, when will you learn................

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Damn, who the hell is going to be stupid enough to pick up Sicknote?

*touches wood* :shifty: :$

[Wengerland]

Damn it,now Birmingham are after Dickov aswell.So are West Brom.:(

[Wengerland]

2-2 between Southampton and Newcastle at half time.

Good game but mainly because of Newcastle's poor defence.:$

[The Mackem]

Man all this talk about the Battle of Britain between Leeds and Rangers back in the day reminds me of when CArl Shutt came off the bench to score a winner in one of their European games. Memories.

[Wengerland]

Finished 3-3 between Newcastle and Southampton.Quality game but that means Liverpool get 4th.

packt up :( (})

[Team Sheep]

shit. Newcastle deserved to win that, they hit the bar twice and had that chance from Shearer (good save though). Ah well, Uefa cup again :$

[Cactus Sid]

Yeah, but erm...you have to beat us to get in the Uefa.

I thought it was an equal game personally, Southampton were by far the better side in the second half, but Newcastle had the chances, so it was fair. All in all, a brilliant game, and thank god we got into the Champions League :D

[Skeletor2]

Yeah, but erm...you have to beat us to get in the Uefa.

I thought it was an equal game personally, Southampton were by far the better side in the second half, but Newcastle had the chances, so it was fair. All in all, a brilliant game, and thank god we got into the Champions League :D

Actually a draw against Liverpool and Defeat for Villa would mean UEFA cup for Newcastle. Also I hope you guys get Partizan Belgrade :mad: :shifty:

[Cactus Sid]

Hey, don't get me wrong, I would rather that the team we edged out wasn't Newcastle, and I'd love them to get the Uefa Cup place, but I'm chuffed we're in the Champions League.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Newcastle's defence was aweful, especially Bernard.

I hope Darren Anderton can find a premiership club to join because if he stays injury free he is class and a top bloke. One of the best players we've ever produced :'( but i dont want him coming back to us :$

and God Lawrie McMenamy annoys me :$</font>

[Skeletor2]

Hey, don't get me wrong, I would rather that the team we edged out wasn't Newcastle, and I'd love them to get the Uefa Cup place, but I'm chuffed we're in the Champions League.

Still have to qualify. You might get a really tough team for all you know. I don't know if they seed the qualifiers, but if they don't you could end up against Barcelona or Juventus :eek:

[Cactus Sid]

Bernard was brilliant going forward.....

Then he left a HUGE gap

[Cactus Sid]

Still have to qualify. You might get a really tough team for all you know. I don't know if they seed the qualifiers, but if they don't you could end up against Barcelona or Juventus :eek:

I'm pretty sure they seed.

[The Mackem]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">

and God Lawrie McMenamy annoys me :$</font>

You and the entire population of Sunderland.

The Operations manager isn't going to be too pleased in the morning, he was looking forward to the Newcastle game :D

[The Mackem]

Hey, don't get me wrong, I would rather that the team we edged out wasn't Newcastle, and I'd love them to get the Uefa Cup place, but I'm chuffed we're in the Champions League.

Psst sid, Newcastle smell.

[Rob]

Rob is deluding himself in here if he thinks Dado is joining Rangers for anything other than money. The guy obviously lacks ambition as he apparently rejected Milan for Rangers, according to the ever so reputable Daily Record.

Boumsong has also stated his desire to leave Rangers after 2 years. Thats the plan, join on a free, get used to British football and move to a Premiership club.

All this 'great' talk about Murray Park and their training facilities being the best for the youngsters coming through yet this season Celtic won all 3 Championships. The SPL, Under 21's and U19's. Stick your Murray Park up your ass.

Rangers are in £65m debt and even Murray has said that they only get away with it because of his role at Rangers and the finances he pumps in. The bank would be looking very unfavourably at them otherwise.

Celtic are the best team in Scotland. Rangers need a lot more than Prso, Rae and Boumsong. As for Marvin Andrews. Is that supposed to put fear in Celtic fans? :rofl:

Dado and Boumsong are there for the pay packets. They're hardly there to win trophies now are they, considering Celtic are about 5 years ahead of Rangers.

Who said Celtic weren't the best team in Scotland? Murray Park has barely been open a year and while we are on the subject, who played more Scottish players this season? But Murray Park had no influence in that did it?

Get over the Rangers vs. Celtic thing because we aren't even talking about it here. As for Prso rejecting Milan, that's the first I heard of that rumour (which is all that is). Milan are meant to be after Tore Andre Flo though and that shows ambition doesn't it? You think Milan wouldn't pay their players more money than Rangers?

And I'm deluding myself?

[The Mackem]

Sunderland better get some money out of the next Flo deal.

[Rob]

Its easy to bring in 50,000 fans when your one of the only two teams playing a decent game of football in your leauge though.

You think Chelsea or Arsenal would fill their stadiums every week if they played Partick 4 times a season?

[Rob]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Newcastle's defence was aweful, especially Bernard.

I hope Darren Anderton can find a premiership club to join because if he stays injury free he is class and a top bloke. One of the best players we've ever produced :'( but i dont want him coming back to us :$

and God Lawrie McMenamy annoys me :$</font>

The only premier club Anderton will be season next season will be a Wilson 9 iron.

[Rob Ban Fan]

You and the entire population of Sunderland.

The Operations manager isn't going to be too pleased in the morning, he was looking forward to the Newcastle game :D


:love:

[Rob Ban Fan]

The only premier club Anderton will be season next season will be a Wilson 9 iron.

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Depending on his wages he'll either come back to us or go to one of the newly promoted clubs I reckon.</font>

[Rob]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Depending on his wages he'll either come back to us or go to one of the newly promoted clubs I reckon.</font>

Come on Owen. You lot are in the big time now. You can do a hell of a lot better than Anderton. He isn't good enough to warm your bench.

[Wengerland]

Come on Owen. You lot are in the big time now. You can do a hell of a lot better than Anderton. He isn't good enough to warm your bench.

Well if John Curtis is....

[Smell It?]

Who said Celtic weren't the best team in Scotland? Murray Park has barely been open a year and while we are on the subject, who played more Scottish players this season? But Murray Park had no influence in that did it?

Get over the Rangers vs. Celtic thing because we aren't even talking about it here. As for Prso rejecting Milan, that's the first I heard of that rumour (which is all that is). Milan are meant to be after Tore Andre Flo though and that shows ambition doesn't it? You think Milan wouldn't pay their players more money than Rangers?

And I'm deluding myself?

Doesn't matter how many Scots you played. They have to be good ones first and foremost. Young Scottish player of the year= Stephen Pearson. Says it all.

Doesn't matter how long Murray Park has been opened. Its been open long enough to reap the benefits of losing to Kilmarnock in the SFA Youth Cup just the other night. :rofl:

Prso has no ambition. Simple as. Why would he got to a team that are in decline when he could have chosen another destination where he had a chance to win things and maybe improve his football. Money is what its all about.

Same with Boumsong. No one is willing to pay these players 30k plus. Not even Milan. Rangers are.

More fool them and more fool you for thinking its anything but.

[Dazz]

Yeah Bernard was good going forward. Southampton had a great penalty appeal, and the lanky Saint should have been sent off. Good goals, good match, shit ref, Graham Poll got rarely anything right.

[packt up]

We were robbed by two things.

Firstly the Ref and secondly our defence.

Bramble and Caldwell should find another profession.

[packt up]

ps mostly our defence by the way just I thought Graham Poll was also being paid off by that tosser from Thailand.

[packt up]

Finished 3-3 between Newcastle and Southampton.Quality game but that means Liverpool get 4th.

packt up :( (})

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I love you.

[Dazz]

ps mostly our defence by the way just I thought Graham Poll was also being paid off by that tosser from Thailand.

Actually if anything Graham Poll did you lot a favour, you'll mention the tall guy who obstruced Shearer when he was the last man, but the view Poll had it was a tough call and he couldn't be 100% sure. Calderwell pushing over Beattie in the box was much more blatent, and I am suprised it wasn't a penatly, as clearly it should have been. Not to mention Ameobi's handball.

[packt up]

Er Ameobi went clean through was pulled back and had the free kick given against him :wtf:

The Shearer one was 50:50 I accept that.

Shearer didn't get a decision all night. Bernard got tripped up blatently scrabbled along the floor the ref played avantage when he was on his hands and knees. It wasn't like "big" decisions he messed up it was just general fouls not given. Even my scouse supporter friend said that he had a mare.

[packt up]

Oh and as for the penalty - Beattie went down mad easy. If that penalty was given so should about 100 other fouls. It was an infringement of the rules but if every infringement was given you'd have about 50 penalties a game. It happens at every game at every corner.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Graham Poll got everything wrong. Southampton should have had a penalty. A draw was a fair result. Both teams had plenty of good chances.

[packt up]

Oh yeah and RBF you are way too good for Anderton. He may have been good in his day (though I don't even think that to be honest) but he's so far past it now he should concentrate on getting Big Ron's job or something.

[Dazz]

within the next minute Calderwell jumped for the ball and pushed someone down too, Poll had a shocker. You can see when Calderwell pushed Beattie over that he gave alot of force, otherwise why was Calderwell off balance once Beattie went down? If he wasnt pushing him hard he would have not got caught off balance afterwards,

[El Capitano Gatisto]

That was a blatant penalty. Caldwell basically just went through him, and didn't even try to go for the ball.

[packt up]

Well whatever obviously I'm mad biased here but I thought the referee was completely shocking and mostly at our expense.

Bottom line: Caldwell is shit.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Nah, it turned out worse for Southampton, since they should have had a penalty, and Ameobi handballed for Newcastle's first goal.

[packt up]

Well they also should have had Kenton sent off for pulling back Ameobi when clean through.

[Dazz]

Nah, it turned out worse for Southampton, since they should have had a penalty, and Ameobi handballed for Newcastle's first goal.

In all fairness, it was bloody hard to see, I didn't until like the 4th replay when they pointed it out.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Well they also should have had Kenton sent off for pulling back Ameobi when clean through.

Ameobi grabbed Kenton's shirt first, to get around him. Titus Bramble could arguably have been sent off too, for a couple of dirty fouls.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

In all fairness, it was bloody hard to see, I didn't until like the 4th replay when they pointed it out.

I saw it on the first replay, but it would have been a tough call. Still, can't really whine about poor refereeing costing victory when you score a goal like that.

Truth is, Newcastle have just been too inconsistent this season, and too feeble away from home. If it wasn't for Shay Given, they wouldn't even have been challenging for 4th place.

[Dazz]

Given played rubbish yesterday, with dodgy kicks, its amazing how that southampton player didnt even attempt to whack the ball into the open goal, also giving Beattie that first goal on a plate, couldn't do much about bramble's own goal though.

[packt up]

Truth is, Newcastle have just been too inconsistent this season, and too feeble away from home. If it wasn't for Shay Given, they wouldn't even have been challenging for 4th place.

Yeah :y: Pretty terrible season which I just want to forget really. The buck always ends with the team.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

He could hardly be blamed for Beattie's first goal, for ****'s sake, the shot came through THREE Newcastle defenders. One of them should have closed it down. Absolutely terrible.

[packt up]

He could hardly be blamed for Beattie's first goal, for ****'s sake, the shot came through THREE Newcastle defenders. One of them should have closed it down. Absolutely terrible.

So true. :'( The defence was shambolic yesterday.

Even more so than usual.

[Dazz]

Yeah but it was a good turn from Svensson, and I think that if Given is as good as people say, then he would have either held the shot, or pushed it out away from the goalmouth. The defending was aweful, but I think Given could have done better. The only good save I can think of is at Givens near post when a Saint had a shot and it got deflected of Bramble(i think) and given got down and got his fist to it then Bernard cleared it. If Given reacted that quick to Svenssons shot, then Beattie would not have scored.

Blaney did mush better then I expected him too, for a debut keeper in the premierhsip you think he would get pissed on, but he made some good saves, especially from Shearers second half header.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Dazz you're having a laugh if you think Shay Given is overrated. I would not swap him for any goalkeeper in the world, for Ireland. I haven't seen a better shot-stopper or a better keeper in one-on-one situations. He's underrated, if anything, as players from countries like Ireland tend to be, if they don't play for Manchester United.

[Dazz]

Yeah my statement came across like that, I didn't mean it to, I meant more based on yesterdays perfomance, it wasn't as good as you lot say, he made some bad kicks and was at fault for the first goal, he made a good save from the chance I mentioned in my last post, and Svenssons left footed curler in the second half, but he certainly did not even have a half decent game.

[packt up]

I :heart: Shay.

[Wengerland]

I think the buck lays with their defence,Caldwell and Bramble are relegation teams standard defence.How Svensson was allowed that much space to turn and get a shot in was puzzling so there's no way Given can be blamed for that.He couldn't do anything about the second and the third was unlucky from his point of view.If he was English he'd certainly be the number 1.

I think i would rather have Steven Taylor at the back for Newcastle than Caldwell right now.

[Smell It?]

Newcastle don't deserve to be in the CL anyway. 2 away wins all season?

Not good enough.

[Dazz]

Yeah its amazing they were even competing for the CL with that record.

[Cactus Sid]

Wow, I haven't seen so much debate over a game since Man U/Arsenal :o

So the board decided to reject Morgan's bid? I say piss on the board, they are a fu</>cking joke

[Wengerland]

Oh yeah,Paul Robinson seems set to go to Spurs for £1.5 million.

I would say we'd see how good he is with a decent defence but ya know,Spurs don't have one either.:-\

[Dazz]

Wow, I haven't seen so much debate over a game since Man U/Arsenal :o



Yeah I was trying to think of when a game was discussed so much, there are many views on the match, but I'm sure everyone agrees that it was one hell of any exciting game, rarely as a neutral do I care about games that much, but I got really into the game yesterday.

[Wengerland]

Also,there's not much else to talk about now.:'(

[Cactus Sid]

Its transfer time though :cool:

[Dazz]

Samuel has snubbed Chelsea
Melchiot looks set to join West Brom on a free when his contract expires this summer
Ronaldinho might be offloaded if a club meets the 66mil buyout clause.

[Wengerland]

YEAH,SUNDAY.:love:

[Wengerland]

Johan Cruyff is losing it if he told Barca to get rid of Ronaldinho.He better not leave.:(

[Rob]

Dazz you're having a laugh if you think Shay Given is overrated. I would not swap him for any goalkeeper in the world, for Ireland. I haven't seen a better shot-stopper or a better keeper in one-on-one situations. He's underrated, if anything, as players from countries like Ireland tend to be, if they don't play for Manchester United.

Remember, Dazz thinks Ruud Van Nistelrooy is the most over rated player in the league. :lol:

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Ronaldinho might be offloaded if a club meets the 66mil buyout clause.

If a club meets the clause Barcelona can't refuse the bid. That's the whole point of buy out clauses.

They have a huge debt, and he's not worth £66 million. If anyone is stupid enough to pay it, Barcelona directors would probably be dancing in the streets.

[Dazz]

Remember, Dazz thinks Ruud Van Nistelrooy is the most over rated player in the league. :lol:

He is overrated, it is a joke how much credit the guy gets for doing so little, the guy is spoonfed up there, he does nothing for himself.

And read what I said, I don't think Given is, I explained it.

[Cactus Sid]

Turns out Morgan actually wanted to buy the club for £61 million and become chairman. That would drastically devalue the club.

On the down side, we're gonna accept the Thai guy's offer :nono:

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I dont WANT Anderton, legend though he is. I just reckon it'll be one of the promoted teams or us :o

Can't see Melchiot going to West Brom personally :| Someone bigger will come in for him.

Teddy Sheringham and Tim Sherwood are off in the summer. :'(</font>

[Wengerland]

Melchiot should not go to West Brom.He wouldn't look out of place at Villa or somewhere bigger.

[Ogen]

Liverpool better beat the Toon this weekend I wanna see Villa in Europe again. I think we've got it in us to get a point off United so as long as Newcastle don't win we should be allright. Hopefullly qualifying will boost teh transfer kittty aswell cause 6 million ain't enough we've to buy too many players.
Mellburg's new 4 year deal is fantastic news our most reliable player by a mile.

[Wengerland]

I dunno,Villa have done well at home and United have lost games at places like Blackburn recently.Plus now they have nothing to play for other than pride.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Turns out Morgan actually wanted to buy the club for £61 million and become chairman. That would drastically devalue the club.

On the down side, we're gonna accept the Thai guy's offer :nono:

He wanted to up his share holding to 30%, which would be a controlling stake, then he could launch a takeover and make some changes to the club.

I think the Thai Prime Minister wants to do the same, but leave the running of the club to the current board.

I'm not really sure how the shares thing works, but Morgan definitely wasn't bidding to buy the club outright.

[The Mackem]

Sunderland tomorrow, oh dear :nervous:

[packt up]

I hope you come up so we can have 6 more points than last season hopefully. :yes:

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Its looking increasing likely that Harry Redknapp wont be manager next season.

Gonna be great on saturday, should be celebrating the fact we've suvived in the premiership but its going to be like a funeral :|

Its great to be a Pompey fan</font>

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Wouldn't be too worried about losing Harry. He's a shifty character, you can get a better coach who won't be so intent on signing loads of players and driving up the wage bill.

A West Ham supporter at Rajah says it's well known that Harry takes cuts on the transfers he does.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I dunno. When he took over we were down the bottom of div 1 and he won us the division the next season and kept us up this season.

To be fair, although the wage bill has gone up, we've saved a great deal on transfer fees.

I dunno. Its just sorta come out of the blue.</font>

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">What the hell is going on? Im watching Sky Sports News and its gone from Milan Mandaric saying he wanted Jim Smith gone and a forign coach in to Milan Mandaric saying he wants Jim Smith to stay to Harry Redknapp saying he wants Jim Smith to stay to Harry Redknapp saying he wanted Jim Smith gone.

Why does anyone have to go? :'( Can't we all just get along</font>

[El Capitano Gatisto]

There, there. C'mere boy, let me give you a cuddle.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">:'((})

They're taking it in turns to phone up Sky Sports News and give interviews claiming this that and the other.

Its looking a lot worse for Bradford though. :(</font>

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Geoffry Richmond, Bradford's former chairman, is a toss pot. He ran them into the ground.

Leeds called him in earlier this season in some sort of consultancy role, the stupid dicks. Then when they realised he was a useless cunt, he tried to claim £2 million off them for doing nothing.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I just feel bad for their supporters. Not long ago they were a premiership club. Now they're on their way to div 2, their entire squad has been told to find new clubs and they've been chucked out of Valley Parade.</font>

[Dazz]

Wouldn't be too worried about losing Harry. He's a shifty character, you can get a better coach who won't be so intent on signing loads of players and driving up the wage bill.

A West Ham supporter at Rajah says it's well known that Harry takes cuts on the transfers he does.

I really can't believe you said that.

It's be proven that Harry took a cut out of ONE transfer, the Rajah poster has blown it out of proportion, maybe he did take cuts out of more, but you cannot just assume that.

You get an extra £500,000 for every place in the league higher you finish, a lower wage bill would mean less quality, which means they would have been lower in the league, so that went along way towards paying for itself, as well as showing clear signs of the club progressing. It's all about gambles, and Harry's gambles have paid off, they are getting rid of Teddy and Sherwood, so that is reducing their wage bill, and I imagine that they are two of the top earners, which is clearly suprising as they are shit.

Fact is, if Milan has a problem with the wage bill, he should make Harry sort it out, not take matters into his own hands and fire Smith and another coach. Me not being a Pompey fan would argue that Smith hasn't done much this season or last, but Pompey fans (not just RBF) disagree, so clearly he does more then meets the eye. And Harry seems loyal to the guy, which is the only chance Smith has of staying, because of Harry's stance on this.

With all that being said, In My Opinion Milan isn't there to make enemies, he is over with the fans, and he is not going to let Smith go if it means Harry will take the walk to. Just my thoughts, but I think they will both stay.

If he goes, then bring back <s>Terry Venables</s>Alan Ball.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I think its pretty clear Jim Smith is banging Mandaric's missus

:shifty:</font>

[Wengerland]

lol

Looks like Redknapp could well be gone,he's basically called Mandaric a liar and vice versa.

[Frank Grimes Jnr]

Good on Harry Redknapp! Tells it like it is. I respect that.
If Mandaric gets rid of him then he is a cockhead. Redknapp is the only reason as to why Portsmouth are still in the Premier League.

[Wengerland]

Looks like they've called a truce.Redknapp will be staying,along with Smith.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I can't see them getting over this to be honest. I hope they do and I feel better after that statement.</font>

[Hired Hitman]

Cmon Redknapp! :cool:

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Bottom line is, it is Mandaric's money in Portsmouth, not Harry Redknapp's. Mandaric has backed Harry for all of his signings, and as cheap as they are, Portsmouth have an enormous wage bill for a club of their stature. They'd be ****ed if they got relegated.

Mandaric has a right to protect his investment as he see fits, and if he feels he can get a better coach that Jim Smith (who is no Marcelo Lippi) then he has a right to try and change things for the better. Harry did the same thing at West Ham: bought alot of players and sent the wage bill soaring. He wasted every penny of the £18 million fee they got for Rio Ferdinand.

Portsmouth have a good squad, but Mandaric can take as much credit from it as Harry Redknapp. They could find a better manager than Harry.

[Dazz]

Bottom line is, it is Mandaric's money in Portsmouth, not Harry Redknapp's. Mandaric has backed Harry for all of his signings, and as cheap as they are, Portsmouth have an enormous wage bill for a club of their stature. They'd be ****ed if they got relegated.

Mandaric has a right to protect his investment as he see fits, and if he feels he can get a better coach that Jim Smith (who is no Marcelo Lippi) then he has a right to try and change things for the better. Harry did the same thing at West Ham: bought alot of players and sent the wage bill soaring. He wasted every penny of the £18 million fee they got for Rio Ferdinand.

Portsmouth have a good squad, but Mandaric can take as much credit from it as Harry Redknapp. They could find a better manager than Harry.

I still disagree. It might be Mandaric's money, but I do not think they can get a better manager. Who honestley wants to go to a club where they have to sell players, and can't bring any in (this is basically what you are saying), will be battling with relegation, and it is also some big shoes to fill.

Redknapp wasted every penny of the 18 million? Look at Veron at United, that was a waste, Liverpool have spent shocking money on shit people, all managers make mistakes. The board pressured Redknapp into selling Rio, and then he had to try and get a suitable replacement cheap, admittidley the 6million on Daily wasn't cheap and didn't pay off but Rio was irriplaceble to West Aam and the board knew that. But if Redknapp did that bad with his replacements, then how did West Ham come 6th in the league the season after he left, it was still almost the same team as his one. He raised players like Frank Lampard and Joe Cole, he is good at brining people through the ranks.

As for Mandaric taking as much credit as Harry? the way I see it, Harry should take more credit, Mandaric hired Rix as a manager, and that didn't exactly pay off, without Mandaric someone else would probably bankroll the club, without Harry Pompey would be at the wrong end of Division one.

I really would like you to list some better managers that then can get, bearing in mind any manager will want to bring in his own staff, and buy players, and Mandaric has made it clear that he wants the wage bill slashed, so hardly anyone will come in, and players must be sold first.

[Tony Montana]

New Everton Kit > Any other kit

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Manchester United can afford to spend big on world class players. If it doesn't work out, they won't go bust. Also, I think Liverpool could get a much better manager that Gerard Houillier.

There are a number of talented managers in the lower divisions who are well able to cope with a tight budget and difficult conditions. It doesn't help, really, that alot of Harry's signings are older players who command big wages but have no re-sale value.

[Tony Montana]

If Man Utd have so much money, then why don't they invest in a kit as good as Everton's eh ?

[Rob]

Harry Redknapp did way more than anyone could have asked of him in 2 years. He and Jim Smith together have done a blinding job and I can't believe they would even think for a second that splitting that team would be a good idea. They would have never survived the season without them both. They would have never had signed the players they did without them both.

His players don't have resale value? Those who don't didn't cost anything to start with so you never lost any money. Pay them until their deals expire and let them leave e.g. Teddy Sheringham (who did a great job for them).

I still don't think he'll finish next season and if he doesn't, Portsmouth are down.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Sheringham played well for the first couple of months, he has basically done nothing since then. He has been injured most of the time. Now Harry is talking about signing Martin Keown, who will again command a big wage, and probably spend most of the season injured.

Harry is a likable guy, and a decent manager, but it won't be the end of the world for Portsmouth. Mandaric has the ambition to cement them as a Premiership side, that's why he wants to get a better technical coach in (George Leekens, apparently).

They aren't going to collapse just because Harry Redknapp leaves. There is plenty of lower division managerial talent to tap if clubs take a chance. Everton did with Moyes, Southampton have with Sturrock.

[Frank Grimes Jnr]

[QUOTE=El Capitano Gatisto]Also, I think Liverpool could get a much better manager that Gerard Houillier.

QUOTE]

Right on!
I'm not a Liverpool fan but its clear to see that Houllier doesn't know what he is doing.
Signing players such as Diouf, Diao, Biscan, Heskey and Cheyrou shows that he is a terrible manager. These players have done nothing since they have arrived at Liverpool.

[Rob]

I don't think anyone else is going to be able to organise that group of players better than Redknapp did personally. They need a British manager.

Oh yeah, and Paul Sturrock at Southamption will end in tears for the scummers.

[Ogen]

So todays the day and for once Vila is the big game of the day for the whole premiership. Everything else is decided apart from us or Newcastle and I've a good feeling.

[Dazz]

There is plenty of lower division managerial talent to tap if clubs take a chance. Southampton have with Sturrock.

:lol: good one :y:

[Wengerland]

Pretty good play off games so far.:y:

[Rob]

Up the 'ammers!!!

[Wengerland]

Finished 1-0 to Ipswich.:$

Also just noticed that each of Arsenal's last 6 games have been on sky.

[packt up]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Salvaged the UEFA from a shitty season. Still a shitty season though.

Unlucky Ogen ({)

[Cactus Sid]

[QUOTE=El Capitano Gatisto]Also, I think Liverpool could get a much better manager that Gerard Houillier.

QUOTE]

Right on!
I'm not a Liverpool fan but its clear to see that Houllier doesn't know what he is doing.
Signing players such as Diouf, Diao, Biscan, Heskey and Cheyrou shows that he is a terrible manager. These players have done nothing since they have arrived at Liverpool.

I'm all for Houllier going (I am a Liverpool fan) but he isn't a terrible manager. He has made plenty of really bad decisions for the last 2 seasons, which would justify a reason for sacking him, but prior to last season, the guy was turning the club around from the state Souness and Evans had left it in.

Also, Heskey isn't terrible, he is just hugely inconsistent.

[Wengerland]

Yeah everyone is saying Heskey isn't good enough when he's scored about 12 goals,probably more than Rooney and Vassell who have a chance of going to Euro 2004.

I dunno,i am biased for him but still,some criticism seems unfair.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">To be fair, a lot of Southampton fans aren't impressed with Sturrock because of his direct HOOF approach. I'd give him some time personally.

Great match today, great goals from Yakubu. If he keeps up like that, we wont be able to hang on to him and trust me, we'll make a profit if we sell him ;)

The fans showed that they wanted all 3 to stick together and both Redknapp and Eagle looked happy during the Lap of Honour.

A great end to a fantastic season. :love:</font>

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Also. Michael Ricketts is FAT.

Lardel made his debut for Bolton against Pompey at Fratton Park and it was 0-0 at the time, he came on as a sub and me and my mate were going "oooh, this could be bad now." until he came on and we realised he was obese and we went on to win 4-0 and go top of the premiership for the night after Fat Sam had said he'd give us a "welcome to the premiership".

Good times. :D</font>

[Rob]

Rob Stiles is beyond sh</>it. My old man hates Man United and even he was cringing watching that match with decisions. The guy is so petty it's unreal. Two red cards that should never had been. A probable penalty and a goal that looked fine to all but one man watching disallowed. I hope they send this guy back to Sunday leagues next season.

[The Mask]

ah well. I suppose the suspension for cristiano will ensure he gets a bit more of a rest after euro 2004.

[Rob]

Well the Portugal manager doesn't even like him so he might not even get a game there.

[Dazz]

So I waited for the players after the game, one of Abramovich's men floored a fan, this 40 something year old, for no reason apparently, I came over just after it happened and didn't see it. Funny thing is, no one knew he was one of Abramovich's men till about an hour and a half later when he got in the same car as Roman. The bloke that got floored wanted to make a complaint, but they just kept staring at him and telling him to stop repeating himself.

Also, when Kenyon came out he got booed :cool:

And Robert Huth grinned and said cheers to me when I congratulated him on sorting Shearer out.

[Tony Montana]

Fu</>cking Wanchope and fu</>cking Anelka :rant:

Pair of dickheads.

[The Mackem]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Also. Michael Ricketts is FAT.

Lardel made his debut for Bolton against Pompey at Fratton Park and it was 0-0 at the time, he came on as a sub and me and my mate were going "oooh, this could be bad now." until he came on and we realised he was obese and we went on to win 4-0 and go top of the premiership for the night after Fat Sam had said he'd give us a "welcome to the premiership".

Good times. :D</font>

That Fat sam, what a joker :D

[Wengerland]

Frank Lampard's contract talks have broken down,so now he could be set to leave,according to his agent. :eek::(

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Come on Frank, you know you want to :'(

[Cactus Sid]

Rob Stiles is beyond sh</>it. My old man hates Man United and even he was cringing watching that match with decisions. The guy is so petty it's unreal. Two red cards that should never had been. A probable penalty and a goal that looked fine to all but one man watching disallowed. I hope they send this guy back to Sunday leagues next season.

He was pretty shocking for both sides, but Fletcher deserved to go.

[The Mackem]

Big game Monday night :)

[Cactus Sid]

Are you sure you wanna get promoted to be humiliated again?

The Thai PM is talking about buying into other clubs if Liverpool reject his offer, and Rick Parry has apparently begun talks with Morgan again.

[Danny Electric]

[QUOTE=El Capitano Gatisto]Also, I think Liverpool could get a much better manager that Gerard Houillier.

QUOTE]

Right on!
I'm not a Liverpool fan but its clear to see that Houllier doesn't know what he is doing.
Signing players such as Diouf, Diao, Biscan, Heskey and Cheyrou shows that he is a terrible manager. These players have done nothing since they have arrived at Liverpool.

I'll have to agree with Cheyrou, Diao and Biscan as they have been terrible. But with Diouf and Heskey he brought two players that have let themselves down.
It wasn't Houllier being a terrible manager as they were quality players, remember Diouf tearing apart the French defence in the last World Cup.
I disagree with most people, Heskey isn't a great player but his link up play is good with Owen and they make a good partnership.
What I hate about Houllier is that he has a tendency to buy players and play them in different positions that what there used to. Diouf was great as a striker, on the wing he's shown as quite poor. He tries to do to much.
Heskey has let himself down but once again why sometimes is he played on the wing? It's not his position.
For this look at Henchoz not playing in central defence.(I like the look of Carragher in the centre). The constant playing of a Defensive midfielder at central defence etc.
Plus with our fowards we've had no consistency because one of them is always injured, Owen being out for parts and Baros having a legnthy lay off.
I think Baros is a good player, every time I've seen him play he runs for everything and never gives up. We should play him more. Plus I liked the look of le Tallec and Sinima-Pongolle, they were just brought in to early. Houllier was pressurised into it by the French FA.
Good luck to Heskey if he goes to Brum, I hope he does well there and shuts up alot of his critics.

[Dazz]

Yeah I think that it is Franks agent that is doing the talking, and is the one who wants the bigger contract not Frank, but seriously if we let Lampard go for any price it will sum up what a joke Peter Kenyon is. I think that if it came down to selling Frank or giving him a new contract, we woud give him a new contract. And give one to Carlo whilst their at it.

[Wengerland]

Did you see that bit in the NOTW about Crespo's wages? damn.:|

Him and Veron are on almost £65,000 a week more than Cudicini.

Anyway,i don't think Lampard should be to greedy,maybe 70k maximum seeing as John Terry isn't complaining and he's not earning too much more than Lampard.

[Dazz]

yeah they reckon he wants about 70k. I read the Crespo wage thing, NOTW are100% right.

[Tony Montana]

Is their any truth behind the story that Everton are trying to sign Joe Cole ? Thats what my local papers have been saying lately.

[Dazz]

I think it is just paper talk. It's obvious that Joe Cole could go to another club as he doesnt play enough, Everton need some good players, its an obvious link really, I doubt there is any truth in it.

[Wengerland]

I guess it depends where he will be playing,with Robben arriving and he is still on the left then he could well be sold.

[Dazz]

I think the plan is to have Robben and Duff as the wide men, Lampard and Makelele in the centre, Cole and Oarker as back up. Veron, Petit, Mutu and maybe Hasselbaink are all on their way out.

[Wengerland]

Yeah,also looks as if Gronkjaer is going to Birmingham for just over £1 million.

[Dazz]

Yes indeedy, Stanic is also out of contract, Desially is a goner, Melchiot is too, wouldn't suprised if Sullivan is, Macho is. Stil hoping Carlo stays.

[The Mask]

i thought robben was a left winger? that's why duff got so pissed off at his arrival.

[The Mackem]

Just been watching a bit of that Football diary on BBC2. It was interesting to see Kieron Dyer being interested in WWE so much :cool:

[Wengerland]

LOL yeah

I found that pretty funny.He's got connections with John Cena

[Cactus Sid]

Pretty good program, gotta love the Weymouth chairman, he hasn't got a clue

[Dazz]

i thought robben was a left winger? that's why duff got so pissed off at his arrival.

My sources tell me that he is a left/right winger and can play upfront or attacking midfield, but is left footed.

Anyway, IF Ranieri stays, he will play them both, he has had Duff on the right before.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Robben is a left winger. Duff is shite on the right hand side. Every time Kerr tries to play him there for Ireland, as a way to let one of our other left footers play on the wing, Duff becomes ineffective. Switch him to the left or the centre, and straight away he starts causing problems.

[The Mackem]

Big match tonight.

[Cactus Sid]

Heskey expected to sign for Birmingham in the next 48 hours

[The Mackem]

Really?

[Cactus Sid]

Yeah, according to Sky Sports News, Steve Bruce, Sky Text etc...

[Cactus Sid]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/birmingham_city/3720031.stm

AND the BBC

Unrelated to the Premiership, but Jaap Stam signed for Milan today

[Wengerland]

Hopefully Dickov chooses West Brom then,cause he wouldn't be a Birmingham regular by the looks of it.

Assuming he goes that is.Bent has also pretty much said he won't stick around but thats understandable as he definetly has premiership talent.

Stam is a good signing for Milan but it looks like he'll be at right back again.Also concerning Italian football,Roberto Baggio has retired,though may play in Euro 2004 if selected.

Staying abroad (:$),Real Madrid lost their 4th game in a row,the first time in their history that haas happened.Beckham was sent off yesterday and so,if he leaves,would have played his last game for them.Barcelona are now 2nd. :heart:

[Wengerland]

Ok,just heard we're releasing 13 players(if you include Izzet,though he will go on a bosman).That includes Freund,Callum Davidson,Impey,Rogers(gone to Forest now),McKinlay,Guppy,Tom Williamson(youngster),Nicolas Priet(another youngster),Paul Murphy(reserve keeper)Sinclair,Junior Lewis and Craig Hignett.

Can't say i'm surprisde about most and if i'm honest i'm not too bothered about losing any of them.Hopefully Gillespie will be added to that list.

Dabizas has been asked to stay but has hinted he'll leave if he gets an offer from a premiership club.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Gillespie is available on a free

[Wengerland]

I can't see any premiership side buying him.Unless we release him i think he could be here for another year.:(

[packt up]

Premiership Team of the Year? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3451183.stm)

Just an interesting take on the BBC for its Premiership team of the Year.

I agree with every single player there :$ unless someone can mention someone not in the BBC alternatives.

Shearer :love:

[Wengerland]

I don't think Johnson should be an alternative.Probably have Given or someone ahead of Kiely as an alternative also.

The team itself is about right,i would maybe disagree about Lauren but he's had a steady season and i can't think of a right back who's been great this season.

Interesting also that Tim Howard was in the PFA team but didn't make any of the BBC alternatives,let alone the starting position.

[The Mask]

Premiership Team of the Year? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3451183.stm)

Just an interesting take on the BBC for its Premiership team of the Year.

I agree with every single player there :$ unless someone can mention someone not in the BBC alternatives.

Shearer :love:

I'd have maybe put ronaldo in instead of viera, and put gerrard where viera is :$ 2 defensive midfielders and all.

can't really argue otherwise though.

[Wengerland]

Ronaldo should probably be in the alternatives at least,maybe not the starting side.:$

[Cactus Sid]

Mackem :( ({)

Was a foul on the keeper, but I'm glad they scored, for 2 reasons

1) Extra time will be good to watch

2) Jason McAteer is, and always has been, a twat

[packt up]

I don't think Johnson should be an alternative.Probably have Given or someone ahead of Kiely as an alternative also.

The team itself is about right,i would maybe disagree about Lauren but he's had a steady season and i can't think of a right back who's been great this season.

Interesting also that Tim Howard was in the PFA team but didn't make any of the BBC alternatives,let alone the starting position.

Yeah the fact that a midfielder starts at right back shows the lack of right back talent in this country. Cos I would probably take him over any right back.

[packt up]

And yeah Ronaldo and Tim Howard should probs be amongst the replacements but not in the starting line up.

[Cactus Sid]

Mackem :(

Mind you, McAteer deserved to miss, and Whitley.... LOL what a cock. In that circumstance, the fact Vaesen was a mile off his line is irrelevant.

Feel sorry for Mart Poom though.

[The Mackem]

Just a bit y'know at the moment.

[Cactus Sid]

The bad thing is next season's gonna be even tougher

[The Mackem]

It's never an easy league to get out of.

[Dazz]

yeah that BBC team is probably the best one, much better then the joke of a team which was on the Sports Personality thing.

[Nevermind]

I hope Kevin Kyle is pleased with himself, though. Letting defenders and kids go up to take the penalties when they shouldn't have been. It shows how much bottle he has. Whitley should've known better than that, though.

McCarthy's reactions says it all really...

[The Mackem]

Kyle was the youngest (Sunderland) player on the pitch at that point I think.

He's given 100% all season and it wouldn't have gotten down to penalties if it wasn't for his goals so I don't hold anything against him. Plus those defenders took suprisingly good penalties.

[Dazz]

:rofl: looks like Wengerland, Hardkore, MMM and the Mackem will be setting up a 'Division one talk' thread next season.

also MMM, I always said that you would finish bottom, :cool:.

[Nevermind]

To be honest, I'm not too clued up on Sunderland, but I just feel that if you're a forward, you should put yourself forward to take a penalty before a defender. You're a forward, that's what you do. Your job is to score goals, and as a forward, you're meant to practice penalties. In front of that goal, a forward would have a much better mindset than a defender. I agree with you that those defenders took surprisingly good penalties, and I know you can't fault Kyle if he's been outstanding all season, but Whitley's inexperience infront of goal (I think he's a defender, right?) has played a big part in costing you a trip to Cardiff.

You're right not to hold anything against him, as it's all very unfortunate, but you have to question Kyle in not taking a penalty. Even if he'd missed, I doubt he would've wasted it like Whitley did. I think that's why McCarthy was so angry, due to the way the penalty was missed.

Penalties are an awful thing, though. You're always going to have your heroes and villians, but at the end of the day, it's all very unfortunate. I'm sure you don't need me adding to the disappointment of tonight, though, so I'll shush. :D

[The Mackem]

Well, it could be worse.

[Nevermind]

True, you could be Leeds, millions of pounds in debt, all of your best players leaving, etc., etc. Sunderland are a very good side, and they'll be back next year, no doubt about that. You've still had a good year, though, in terms of the FA Cup especially.

[The Mackem]

Maybe the FA Cup run took it out of usbut I could list 100 ifs and buts right about now. It will feel better in the morning.

[Dazz]

IF they didn't score in extra time is the main one I suppose. and If Norwich and WBA weren't in the league this season...

;).

[The Mackem]

I guess they would be 65 and 79

[Dazz]

Whats number one?

[The Mackem]

1) What if we never got relegated in the first place

[Dazz]

Oh yeah. Is number two if you realised sooner that relying on Phillips is not the way to go?

[The Mackem]

There's other basic stuff as well.

Despite not being world beaters, people put 11 players behind the ball. Of course not being the greatest we couldn't deal with this and couldn't break teams down. The most extreme example of this was WBA at home.

Then there's the usual stuff like injuries to key players like Healy, Arca, Wright, Breen, Piper to an already depleted squad.

I could probably list about 100 things that went against us over the play off games but in the end we just didn't do enough. No mistake about it we would have probably came back down but I'm more bothered about fiannacial security than humiliation at this point. It's possible we could be losing the best of an already not too good team :(

[The Mackem]

Oh yeah. Is number two if you realised sooner that relying on Phillips is not the way to go?

It was more a reliance on Quinn :-\

[Dazz]

Yeah the finance is a bummer for any team.

Well, except Chelsea at the moment, :cool:

[The Mackem]

Give it time, Sunderland looked financially secure (I know not on the same scale as the big teams in Europe or anything) for a good time. Things change though. One moment you're on top of the world next you're almost f*cked. Leeds being the best example at the moment.

[The Mackem]

Oh yeah and if I was being picky about tonight, I would have went along the lines of...

If only we held on for a few more minutes

If only the ref had blown for a foul on Poom for their goal

If only the ref had seen some infraction by the opposition goalie

If only Oster's penalty went in off the post

If only the referee had shown some consistency and booked the main person who celebrated in the crowd (Powell)

If only we could make our man advantage pay off

If only Whitley had scored when he was almost clean through on goal

If only the away goal rule was still used in the play offs

Those were the first few that came to mind anyway :-\

That's football though.

[Dazz]

Yeah they are some pretty good reasons. I think it was a foul, but the keeper did go over easy and I don't think he had it. Regardless to this, I still think it was a foul.

[The Mackem]

Yeah they are some pretty good reasons. I think it was a foul, but the keeper did go over easy and I don't think he had it. Regardless to this, I still think it was a foul.

At the time I was definite, then I saw it again and thought there was contact but maybe not too much, then the next time I saw what Shipperly done with his feet. I remember Sol Campbell playing for England getting a goal disallowed when Shearer fouled the keeper. :mad:

I dunno maybe the ref didn't dare disallow it or something. It was his last game btw umm cheers.

[Ogen]

Fúck sake Mackem I just made you a thread to cry in then I come in here and find you've been galavanting about the Premiership thread. :mad:

[The Mackem]

I just wanted to feel big :'(

[Dazz]

Yeah when England played the Argies is 98.

[Cactus Sid]

Heskey's gone

Kind of a mixed reaction to it, on one side we have sold the most inconsistent lump of a footballer for most of the season for a fee, although lower than what we paid for him, isn't bad in today's market. However, when he plays well, he plays well, and I worry that Houllier wont replace him (i.e the Cisse deal goes tits up)

But hey, apparently our board have accepted the Thai PM's offer, which means more cash. Not in favour of it by any stretch of the imagination, but if it helps build the squad, so be it.

[The Mask]

i liked that morgan guys quote about houllier "six years into a five-year plan" haha

[Wengerland]

:rofl: looks like Wengerland, Hardkore, MMM and the Mackem will be setting up a 'Division one talk' thread next season.

also MMM, I always said that you would finish bottom, :cool:.

That's the plan.:cool:

Just have a nationwide league thread(unless every league is being sponsered by coca cola) because then that includes people who follow lower league teams aswell as premiership,and Ricky,though he could be in the division one talk thing anyway.

Mackem :( I honestly didn't want to play you lot next season.:$

[Paranoid Rattlesnake]

Hull City Coca Cola Division 2 champions 2004/2005 :D

[Wengerland]

I'm liking Birmingham now.Izzet,Heskey and Savage.:love:

[toxic rooster]

IZZET

IT IS!

PS Is Walker staying with Leicester? Been rather ignorant last few days :o

[packt up]

To be honest Mackem after the travesty of last season I didn't even think you would get near the playoffs this season your team looked so poor it was untrue.

You've had a good season and have just been unlucky ({)

[The Mackem]

We were 90 minutes away from Europe, it's been a weird season.

[packt up]

Ha yeah true :$.

Man if you'd got promoted and been in Europe it would have been wonderland :cry:

({)

[Wengerland]

IZZET

IT IS!

PS Is Walker staying with Leicester? Been rather ignorant last few days :o

He said he wants to stay,i reckon if a decent offer is made for him then he'll probably go.

[The Mask]

who the f</>uck would want walker in their team? :mad:

[Dazz]

A promoted team might, not Norwich though, their keeper is quality.

Heskey going still seems strange, especially not to another good team, looks like a step down for him, which IMO is what he deserves as he is not good enough, point is I didn't think he would want to take a step down, especially now Liverpool have qualified for the Champions League.

[Rob Ban Fan]

That's the plan.:cool:

Just have a nationwide league thread(unless every league is being sponsered by coca cola) because then that includes people who follow lower league teams aswell as premiership,and Ricky,though he could be in the division one talk thing anyway.

Mackem :( I honestly didn't want to play you lot next season.:$
<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">cant we just have a football talk thread, like this one? Ive never really been bothered about whether people talked about nationwide, FA Cup or the champions league in here, even though its the Premiership Talk thread.

:'(</font>

[Dazz]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">cant we just have a football talk thread, like this one? Ive never really been bothered about whether people talked about nationwide, FA Cup or the champions league in here, even though its the Premiership Talk thread.

:'(</font>

Yeah I agree. I just wanted to take the piss out of the teams not in the premiership.

Also, when threads get too big do they get deleted off the server? because if so, surely someone should make a new thread.

[Dazz]

Oh and United have had bids of 3.55 and 5.5 million rejected by Leeds. How unsuprising, United trying to get players on the cheap, he is worth at least 7 million.

[The Mask]

i dunno, i heard they were gonna sell him for roughly £5m. as if they didn't get enough money out of us for rio, the twats.

[Wengerland]

who the f</>uck would want walker in their team? :mad:

Probably Fulham if Van Der Sar leaves,i'll be happy to keep him though.:$

[Wengerland]

I probably wouldn't have made another thread,its just that if i edit the title to something like 'English football talk' or something and there's so many pages people like Ricky would have missed loads.I dunno,maybe there should just be a new thread made for everything and just archive this or something.

[Dazz]

i dunno, i heard they were gonna sell him for roughly £5m. as if they didn't get enough money out of us for rio, the twats.

Actually you never gave Leeds the £30million, you gave them something like £24million. Because they were desperate to get some of the money owed early, and United said they would give them part of it as it wasnt due, and Keeds agreed to it.

[Dazz]

why does this need to be archived? Like any of us are going to read through it again.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">we should just keep using this thread. It'll be huge soon :cool:

To be honest, i dont think Ricky comes in this forum too often, and if he does, there isnt really anything he's missed in this thread.</font>

[Dazz]

But the bigger the thread gets, the more chance of messing up, I suppose we might aswell use it till it messes up.

[Cactus Sid]

Approaching 50 pages :cool:

[Dazz]

If my calculations are correct, the next post is going to be the first on the 50th page.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">i bet you post before I post this</font>

[Dazz]

Jobber :cool:

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">well I was wrong but still.

BOOOOO West Ham.

COME ON PALACE</font>

[Dazz]

Pardrew is a top bloke, with his interview afterwards and celebrations. What a guy.

[Cactus Sid]

*Lurking for post 2000 :shifty:*

[Wengerland]

The thread won't suddenly get deleted,look at the game ones in the music forum and the "Ok i gotta go to class but before i go,here".They both had thousands of posts.

Probably not archive it cause its too long,i should have made another predictions thread and linked to the old one,then that could have been archived to see how close we were in guessing.:'(

[packt up]

Okocha signs a new deal :love:

[Wengerland]

I only found out about Scimeca leaving from RBF last night.:$!

[Mr. Monday Morning]

:rofl: looks like Wengerland, Hardkore, MMM and the Mackem will be setting up a 'Division one talk' thread next season.

also MMM, I always said that you would finish bottom, :cool:.

One of the very few things you've been right about :D

RBF will also chip in :foc:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Also Alan Pardew is a cunt

[Cactus Sid]

Houllier is supposedly on the brink of being sacked

Probably bullsh</>it, but we might get lucky.

ALSO, looks like the Thai PM is pulling out of the deal.

I do have a feeling that Parry or Moores has done a deal with Morgan, hence the speculation about Houllier, and the problem with the Thai Guy.

[Wengerland]

I heard the problem with the Thai PM was concerning the number of seats they'd get on the board,dunno how true that is.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Too right. Div 1 is great. I reckon Wolves are gonna win it next year.</font>

[Cactus Sid]

I heard the problem with the Thai PM was concerning the number of seats they'd get on the board,dunno how true that is.

Yeah, this is apparently the truth.

Can't help but think something really dodgy is going on.

[Ricky]

Nothing to do the premiership but I just want to say

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

CARDIFF HERE WE COME

[toxic rooster]

Wales, ay? :naughty:

Hurry up and fix Wembley :mad:

[Wengerland]

Everton have apparantely bid somewhere in the region of £7 million for Alan Smith,don't think he'll join them but good to see some oportunism from them,they're also after Joe Cole on loan.

Chelsea have been linked with a Peruvian forward,called something like Jefferson Farfan,who they would immediately loan to PSV.I haven't heard of him.:$

[Dazz]

Nor have I, I bet ECG has, he seems to have heard of everyone. PSV are our link up club, we get first refusal on their players when they wanna sell them, and we loan them players till they get English permits :cool:.

[Wengerland]

Incidently the charges have been dropped against the Leicester three.

The links about Ranieri going seemed to have calmed down also,which is good news.

[Dazz]

have they fu</>ck, he was linked with Roma today.

P.S I always said the Leicester trio were innocent and that Dickov wouldn't do something like that.

[Wengerland]

I dunno,just haven't seen anything on teletext but thats all i've checked.I'd like to see him stay at Chelsea or if not go to another premiership club,Spurs or Liverpool maybe.

[Dazz]

Nah, if he leaves us I want him to go back to Italy, or Spain. I don't want another Premiership club having him.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I read something today that apparently Houllier gave the Liverpool board an ultimatum that he didn't want to wait until next week for a meeting on his future/next season and it might've backfired on him..

[Doink]

MIDDLESBROUGH:

OUT GOING PLAYERS :

micheal ricketts - i hope
alan johnson
mark wilson
joseph desire job
bolo zenden
danny mills
robbie stockdale
szilard nemeth
massimo maccerone
carlo nash
jonathan greening - poss loaned out somewhere
stewart downing - loan deal to the mackum twats for a year
danny graham - loan to darlo


PLAYERS LINKED WITH US SO FAR :

danny mills
bolo zenden
geremi
eider gudjohnson
mikkel forrsel (already staying ay brum tho)
jesper jronkjear
joe cole
mario melchoit (seem to be forming a chelsea reject 11 here)
alexi smertan
yakubu
alan smith
mark viduka
chris sutton
henrik larrson
alan thompson
john hartson
fernades morientis
kevin phillips
james beattie
emile heskey (thank u brum as didnt want him)

and jimmy forginer that have never heard of!

PLAYERS LIKLEY TO BE SIGNED:

doriva
gareth southgate
mark schartzer
gizeka mendieta
^ contract extensions
mark viduka
and jimmy forigner who noones heard of!

BIGGEST SHOCK OF TRANSFER WINDOW:

juninho will be sold (as wasnt mclarens buy, he was chairman steve gibsons)

you heard that here first!!!!!!!

[Cactus Sid]

I read something today that apparently Houllier gave the Liverpool board an ultimatum that he didn't want to wait until next week for a meeting on his future/next season and it might've backfired on him..

Somebody reads the Daily Mail :shifty:

[Cactus Sid]

FUC</>KING BUNCH OF CUM JOCKEYS

Morgan's withdrawn his offer, WAY TO FUC</>KING GO MOORES

[toxic rooster]

Turkey 3, Australia 1.

And I do believe that stand is empty...

Wow, we have some problems :(

[Cactus Sid]

Turkey are a good side..... a bunch of cheats, but a good side

[Ogen]

Yas! Lovely buy from O'Leary to buy Laurson who only lost his place in the Milan team due to Nesta which theres not exactly much shame in. 3 million well spent now but another right back and a midfielder and I'll be happy

[Ogen]

Also supposed to be revealing another new player later today believed to Mark Van Bommel or Morton Gamst Pederson

[Wengerland]

Gamst Pederson would be a quality signing.I take it you mean for Villa,though i think i saw that he was also linked with Man Utd,but i just saw his name and was reading about United being linked with Heinze from PSG.Smith is close to signing for them too.

I bet Jason McAteer ends up here after being released by Sunderland.:(

[Wengerland]

Laurson's also a good signing,well done Villa.:y:

[Ogen]

United don't seem to want Gamst Pederson looks to be between us and Newcastle for him and we can guarentee him more games I'd say so we may have a chance

[Ogen]

According to a few people I know who are usually right about this sort of thing Gamst Pederson for 2 million is almost a done deal and we're currently negotiating a fee with Chelsea to get Huth on a year long loan

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Somebody reads the Daily Mail :shifty:

It's a shit rag but the only paper the 'rents buy :-\

Camara has handed in a transfer request :'( But it's been rejected :cool: He said something to the effect of he really doesn't want to leave but playing in Div 1 will wreck his international career. F</>uck that, he should stay and help us get back up then, there's no major tournaments Senegal will be involved in (oh wait, World Cup qualifiers :shifty: ). If he stays, I'm almost certain we'll come straight back. If he goes...well, Cort and Miller could still prove to be a very good partnership. We'll have to see.

Brum have bid for Gronkjaer (don't know how much)

Walter Samuel has signed for Real Madrid for roughly £15m...*exactly* what they needed, if they can find another half decent centre back they will be extremely dangerous next year (personally I don't think Helguera is too bad but he'd be better playing as the midfield anchorman ahead of Cambiasso who is way too inexperienced at the moment)

[The Mackem]

WE cleared out about eight players today. Probably more to go

[Cactus Sid]

McAteer's unemployed TAKE THAT YOU TWAT

[Dazz]

MIDDLESBROUGH:

OUT GOING PLAYERS :

bolo zenden
massimo maccerone



PLAYERS LINKED WITH US SO FAR :

danny mills
bolo zenden
geremi
eider gudjohnson
mikkel forrsel (already staying ay brum tho)
jesper jronkjear
joe cole
mario melchoit (seem to be forming a chelsea reject 11 here)
alexi smertan
yakubu
alan smith
mark viduka
chris sutton
henrik larrson
alan thompson
john hartson
fernades morientis

Zenden has been one of your best players I think, the guy is completley different to how he was at Chelsea, I would welcome him back here. How can Forssell even be linked withyou, you can have Geremi, Melchiot, Gronkjaer and Gudjohsen because they are shit. I hope you don't get Smertin, I'd like him to stay at Pompey as they need him more. Same with Yakubu, I really want him to stay there too. Lot of Celtic rejects their too, and believe me, you do not want Chris Sutton. Also, you know as well as everyone else, there aint no way Morientes will go anywhere near you.

Huth is apparently going on loan to Villa, I heard that too, I'd assume it is only once we sign a world class centre back. Personally, I hope that Huth and Terry play centre back for us next season, and Gallas plays right back.

I heard that in the Mail too, what the fu</>ck are they playing at if it isn't ture (as has been the case so far) and to honest I think that Liverpool fans should be majorly pissed off. That Thailand guy has bad news written all over him, and they price a local Liverpool guy out of taking control? Have a word.

[Cactus Sid]

I heard that in the Mail too, what the fu</>ck are they playing at if it isn't ture (as has been the case so far) and to honest I think that Liverpool fans should be majorly pissed off. That Thailand guy has bad news written all over him, and they price a local Liverpool guy out of taking control? Have a word.

Its a joke. Well and Truly.

[Cactus Sid]

2000 :cool:

[The Mask]

this is 2000 :p

also, i laugh at you big scouse bastards :cool:

[Cactus Sid]

Check the number :mad:

Less of the...erm...

Big, yeah, Scouse, I support them.... Ok, your right :mad:

[The Mask]

whaaat. well that was the 2000th reply :$

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Boro guy.

Zenden was one of the few players from your team to come out with any credibility after the match at Fratton Park, and whenever ive seen him he's been awesome.

You wont get Smertin because he says he wants to come back to us and the only reason that may be a problem is because his wife wants to move to London, so Middlesbrough is out of the question really :p

and Yakubu...nah, just...nah</font>