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Evil Vito
08-26-2005, 05:59 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, the entrance was incredible, with the detail......good to see they invested several extra polygons for Torrie's boobs :shifty:
Anyways, the Raw commentary is horrible and the SD commentary is FAR better......I guess they ARE going for realism afterall.
Monday's gonna be another Raw guy, hopefully not another diva........I'm hoping for Edge, if only because I want to see if Metalingus made the cut (I know it did in DOR2 but I can remember other times where music made it into one game but not the other)</font>
Disturbed316
08-26-2005, 06:14 PM
I want to see Chris Masters. His enterance on DOR2 is amazing so I'm hoping it will be the same for this game.
PorkSoda
08-26-2005, 06:17 PM
This game is looking to be cheeseburger quality. Kick ass :y:
Cool King
08-26-2005, 06:52 PM
Is it just me of is Torrie's breasts too big?
And I'm pretty sure Brian Hebner is the SmackDown! ref and Mike Chioda is the RAW ref.
Disturbed316
08-26-2005, 07:09 PM
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/645/645706/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050826000311702.jpg
The pictures don't lie man, that is Brian Hebner in a Raw referee shirt.
Cool King
08-26-2005, 07:14 PM
Yeah, but I'm really sure I saw a video with Hebner as the SmackDown! ref.:wtf:
Plus, why would they make a SD! ref a RAW ref and a RAW ref a SD! ref?
Disturbed316
08-26-2005, 07:17 PM
Probably due to Earl being released, and it would be quicker and easier to just copy Brian over from a Smackdown costume instead of scanning/making someone new.
KingofOldSchool
08-26-2005, 08:07 PM
The Undertaker looks like he's calling on the spirit of Big Poppa Pump in that last picture.
Sadistic
08-26-2005, 09:05 PM
lol, all I've seen you do in this thread is bitch. You're the kinds of people I was making fun of with my posts.
That's because next year when raw vs. smackdown 2007 comes out everyone will be saying how that is perfect and how this game is shit. It's stupid.
Nervous Ferret
08-26-2005, 09:20 PM
Sadistic is my pet n00b.
TerranRich
08-27-2005, 01:06 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, the entrance was incredible, with the detail......good to see they invested several extra polygons for Torrie's boobs :shifty:
Why does everybody diss the Divas on a video game? I don't just mean you, but everybody seems to do it, everwhere. I actually like the fact that they're there and playable, it's all good. Just admit that she looks very realistic and the detail is amazing, even if her boobs on the game are a bit too big. :p
Impact!
08-27-2005, 06:47 AM
Sadistic is my pet n00b.
God Damn it, I want a pet n00b.
Boondock Saint
08-27-2005, 06:47 AM
I don't touch the divas, ever. I don't mind them in season mode as managers/part of storylines, but when we could have more playable wrestlers instead of divas, it's kind of a waste of space.
To each his own. I also barely ever touch the CAW system. Don't have the patience to do all that. Meh, just me.
Hired Hitman
08-27-2005, 08:12 AM
I always kick all the divas asses with Trish, proving she is the best woman in the game :cool:
Sadistic
08-27-2005, 09:00 AM
Sadistic is my pet n00b.
:wtf:
Impact!
08-27-2005, 09:06 AM
^ you don't have a choice
Impact!
08-27-2005, 09:06 AM
:shifty:
Hired Hitman
08-27-2005, 09:17 AM
:shifty:
Just John
08-27-2005, 12:01 PM
God Damn it, I want a pet n00b.
I smell a craze....
Gouda
08-27-2005, 04:03 PM
I still say stats suck.
Skippord
08-28-2005, 12:46 AM
I smell a craze....
Yes I had part in a craze starting
Just John
08-28-2005, 11:10 AM
WTF the majority of Smackdown vs Raw forums want Goldberg as a legend
TerranRich
08-28-2005, 11:46 AM
They're all half-retarded morons, what do you want?
Cool King
08-28-2005, 12:01 PM
They're all <s>half</s> retarded morons, what do you want?
Fixed.:D
Just John
08-28-2005, 12:59 PM
Can someone compare a SvR2006 pic of torrie and a real pic of her and someone show me how they look alike (other than attire)
Drakul
08-28-2005, 04:36 PM
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/645/645706/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050826000315077.jpg
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/screenshots_library/dir_139/vortal_pic_69596.jpg
TerranRich
08-29-2005, 01:42 AM
I'd say they look pretty close. Especially since they scanned all the superstars' and divas' faces for this game, in super-ultra-mega-hyper-high-res! :eek:
loopydate
08-29-2005, 01:52 AM
Yeah, that's a pretty strong likeness.
Drakul
08-29-2005, 03:44 AM
Didn't they scan the wrestlers faces? They say the do every year then the next year they say "...and for the first time we scanned there faces!" Any other year Id find it hard to believe cos thre was always someone that looked completely wrong. This year though I think there right.
High Impact v.W.o
08-29-2005, 07:10 AM
Wow I hope big Vis looks good on the game (if he's on there)
Drakul
08-29-2005, 07:14 AM
I never saw him on the roster list:'(
Just John
08-29-2005, 07:16 AM
He just looks like one big black ball rolling around the ring to me.
Hired Hitman
08-29-2005, 09:24 AM
Looks good, I would definitely tap that Video game ass of hers.
Hmm!
Evil Vito
08-29-2005, 11:22 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Damn, that IS a scary realistic likeness
Maybe it's not such a bad thing that Joy got put in the game</font> :shifty:
Hired Hitman
08-29-2005, 11:47 AM
Oops, Joy lost her top... oh my. ;);)
Dark-Slicer Diago
08-29-2005, 03:31 PM
today's superstar of the Day is Mark Jindrak
Mark Jindrak's Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/646/646044/smackraw06_082905_jindrak_01_wmvlow.wmv)
Mark Jindrak vs Scotty 2 Hotty (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/646/646044/smackraw06_082905_jindrak_02_wmvlow.wmv)
victory (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/646/646044/smackraw06_082905_jindrak_03_wmvlow.wmv)
Attributes
(STR 8) (SUB 6.5) (DUR 7.5) (TEC 7) (SPD 7) (CHA 6) (HC 7) (STA 7) OV 78
Finishers - Mark of Excellence and Flying Clothesline 3
Credit - Jeremy Dunham, ps2.ign.com
Evil Vito
08-29-2005, 04:32 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Everything looking good, except the commentary (ie: King saying "going to the top rope....what's he gonna do?" after the move has already been completed)
Also, is that Jindrak's real theme? I know it sounds familiar, but I thought he used the Reflection of Perfection music until his release
Oh well, stick around for more detailed, non half-assed notes from Disturbed</font> :p
Disturbed316
08-29-2005, 04:32 PM
Boo, I wanted Chris Masters. Anyway, notes to come in a second. Thanks Vito :)
Dark-Slicer Diago
08-29-2005, 04:36 PM
I too wanted Chris Masters, who else other than me is going boost him to main event stats, and that is Jindraks theme before his release, it was his theme either when Team Angle and The Cabinat combined or his house show theme when he was traded
TerranRich
08-29-2005, 04:39 PM
Damn, Jindrak looks very true to his real-life counterpart. I can already tell that every single superstar will look very realistic. :D
And yeah, that was his last theme in WWE, a production piece called "Delirious". Matt Morgan used it for awhile as well.
TerranRich
08-29-2005, 04:40 PM
I three want to see Chris Masters' entrance, all 5 minutes of it. ;) Seriously, I just want to see how realistic it looks. Man, I cannot WAIT for this game to come out!
Disturbed316
08-29-2005, 05:01 PM
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/646/646044/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050828112444331.jpg
Video 1 - Enterance
Right, I don't think anyone got the chance to see Jindrak perform on Raw before he was released, so I guess we will just have to say this enterance is EXACTLY what he would have done, if he had the chance. Some generic rock music plays as Jindrak comes out sporting some lovely gold underpants. He makes his way to the ring. In the background we can see King and JR having some kind of debate and when Jindrak gets to the ring, we see Lillian holding the mic behind her back. Amazing how much detail they have put in this time. Jindrak looks great, in a non homosexual way :shifty: He gets in the ring and poses. Pretty funny how he gets almost no reaction from the crowd.
Video 2 - Fight time part I
The video starts out with a huge GOSH by JR. We are 46 seconds into a Jindrak vs Scotty 2 Hotty match, the sign during his enterance was right, this is MATCH OF THE CENTURY. Jindrak goes for a choke lift by it gets reversed, much to King's delight. The two wrestlers return reversals for abit before Jindrak knocks Scotty on his ass with a straight right punch. Jindrak nails a backbreaker before the video goes black. Again, almost no reaction what so ever.
Video 3 - The end
Scotty has got full momentum and pounds on Jindrak a little. Jindrak fights back and whips Scotty into the corner and his his finishing move, the huge flying clothesline from the top. He pins Scotty for 3. I love that clothesline, had it as one of my CAW's turnbuckle moves last year. Jindrak goes around the ring punching the air celebrating whilst King tells us he is the luckiest guy in the world, ahh bless.
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/646/646044/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050828111504770.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/646/646044/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050828111502098.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/646/646044/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050828111504051.jpg
Disturbed316
08-29-2005, 05:02 PM
Jindrak looks good, although I probably wont use him. It would have been nice to have seen what the Mark of Excellence looked like, see if it was like last years or if it had been reannimated.
TerranRich
08-29-2005, 05:05 PM
I might team him up with my CAW, "The Professional" Rich Wilson. They could be Professional Perfection. :p
But yeah, it's not "a generic rock theme"...wait...yeah it is.. :shifty:
They should still have made Tazz a playable character (they have done it with Lawler in the past) and Davey Boy Smith should definately be a legend.
Hired Hitman
08-29-2005, 10:34 PM
Poor Scotty :'(
Evil Vito
08-29-2005, 10:40 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Random list since I'm bored:
Top 5 Guys I want to see that I haven't seen pics of yet (in no real order): Hassan, Eugene, Masters, Stevie, Conway
God I hope the bWo/Con Man music is in</font>
TerranRich
08-30-2005, 02:38 AM
Man the commentary in that third (and last) Jindrak video is horrendous. It sounds like J.R. is about to break out of character at any moment.
Lawler: "I can't believe I get PAID to do this job, J.R.!"
JR: "Don't let Eric Bischoff hear you say that...or you...might be.... Man, who wrote this crap?"
Lawler: "It's THQ, J.R.! PUPPIEEEESS!!"
JR: "BAHGAWD SACK OF PUPPIES! JINDRAK WINS WITH THE STUNNER! SCOTTY TOO HOTTY IS BROKEN IN HALF!!!"
Cuzziebro
08-30-2005, 05:19 AM
:rofl:
Cuzziebro
08-30-2005, 05:24 AM
What I don't understand is WHY did THQ and WWE add superstars that have been fired (ie Mark Jindrak, just an example i really like the guy) when there is other Superstars still in the WWE that havent been included (ie Matt Hardy). WATSUPWITDAT
Impact!
08-30-2005, 05:31 AM
I think they'd already made the characters though and just decided to keep them to fill out the roster, Hardy will most likely end up in the game.
Evil Vito
08-30-2005, 12:09 PM
I think they'd already made the characters though and just decided to keep them to fill out the roster, Hardy will most likely end up in the game.
<font color=goldenrod>He won't be in the PS2 version, but I wouldn't be surprised if he were the "special character" that comes with the PSP version</font>
Just John
08-30-2005, 03:10 PM
<font color=goldenrod>He won't be in the PS2 version, but I wouldn't be surprised if he were the "special character" that comes with the PSP version</font>
Matt hardy as a special character? what is the world coming to?
TerranRich
08-30-2005, 03:14 PM
What I don't understand is WHY did THQ and WWE add superstars that have been fired (ie Mark Jindrak, just an example i really like the guy) when there is other Superstars still in the WWE that havent been included (ie Matt Hardy). WATSUPWITDAT
You will hear this ONE TIME and ONE TIME ONLY.
When THQ was making the game, it was around spring of this year. AT THAT TIME, all those released superstars were IN THE WWE.
If you put in months of work scanning superstars' faces and motion-capturing their entrances and taunts and even some of their moves, would YOU throw it all away just to make it accurate as possible? They don't HAVE THE TIME to fill in replacement wrestlers in the place of Charlie Haas, Mark Jindrak, etc.
I personally don't mind the old roster. I'd love to play with Charlie Haas...er...in the game that is... :shifty:
So yeah, everybody take notice of what I just typed above. Don't ask again why older wrestlers were left in. Please.
Just John
08-30-2005, 03:18 PM
Hass is in?
Dark-Slicer Diago
08-30-2005, 03:27 PM
yes, check page 11 on this topic as I posted the full roster(FINAL)
Just John
08-30-2005, 04:07 PM
:love:
Rejoyce!
Just John
08-30-2005, 04:27 PM
Michelle Mcool is on the countdown
Dark-Slicer Diago
08-30-2005, 04:27 PM
Today's Superstar of the Day is, Michelle McCool
Michelle McCool's Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/646/646705/smackraw06_mccool_083005_01_wmvlow.wmv)
Michelle McCool vs Torrie Wilson (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/646/646705/smackraw06_mccool_083005_02_wmvlow.wmv)
Victory (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/646/646705/smackraw06_mccool_083005_03_wmvlow.wmv)
Attributes
(STR 3) (SUB 3.5) (DUR 3) (TEC 4) (SPD 6.5) (CHA 7) (HC 4) (STA 5) OV 53
Finishers - Sable Bomb(Powerbomb 14) and Woman's Special Slap
Credit - Jeremy Dunham, ps2.ign.com
Just John
08-30-2005, 04:36 PM
Where the fuck is the pop in the entrance?
Evil Vito
08-30-2005, 04:45 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Bleh, 2 divas in 4 days.......ah well, good to get them out of the way I suppose
Not much for me to note, except that I love the Smackdown commentary</font> :love:
Dark-Slicer Diago
08-30-2005, 04:50 PM
same here
Danny Electric
08-30-2005, 04:58 PM
Great
I hate the games, wow Michelle McCoolio. Go and fuck off.
TerranRich
08-30-2005, 06:33 PM
Shut up Danny. Go home.
Anyway, at least it's good news that I can get a clear version of Michelle McCool's theme from this game.
The Mackem
08-30-2005, 06:45 PM
Shut up Danny. Go home.
Calm down lads, lads calm down!
I will have no argy bargy in my forum, now shake each other's hands. She's not worth it. Bros before hos.
Cool King
08-30-2005, 06:49 PM
Anyway, at least it's good news that I can get a clear version of Michelle McCool's theme from this game.
Didn't I already give you a CD Quality version of her theme?
And Tyson Tomko isn't in the game.:-\
Team Sheep
08-30-2005, 07:13 PM
That goat is simply impossible to be a video game animation.
Sadistic
08-30-2005, 07:57 PM
Is everyone really happy with the roster?
Superstars that are in the game and SHOULDN'T be:
Charlie Haas
Chavo Guerrero
Chris Jericho
Joy Giovanni
Khosrow Daivari
Mark Jindrak
Muhammad Hassan
Spike Dudley
Superstars that are not in the game and SHOULD be:
Antonio
Ashley
Big Vito
Candice
Funaki
Hardcore Holly
Hulk Hogan
Jillian
Joey Mercury
Johnny Nitro
Juventud
Ken Kennedy
Kerwin White
Maria
Matt Hardy
Matt Striker
Melina
Nunzio
Psicosis
Road Warrior Animal
Romeo
Rosey
Sharmell
Simon Dean
Super Crazy
Tyson Tomko
Val Venis
Victoria
Viscera
Jonster
08-30-2005, 08:05 PM
Haha, Jericho shouldn't be in the game :lol: :nono:
Nervous Ferret
08-30-2005, 08:09 PM
he chouldnt!
Team Sheep
08-30-2005, 08:10 PM
God, do you guys even watch RAW anymore? He was FIRED!!!! Remember? Bloody hell, you people have the memory span of a goldfish.
Dark-Slicer Diago
08-30-2005, 08:30 PM
that was recently, Jericho should still be in the game.
Ashley, Big Vito, Jillian, Ken Kennedy, and Matt Striker should not be in because they came after the cutoff date and as for Kerwin White and Matt Hardy, Chavo got a gimmick change after his model was already in the game so it's too late for him, and Matt was fired before the cutoff and was bought back 2-3 months after it, so it's also too late for him, but if his model was put in the game to begin with, 1 week after SvR 2006 is out, keep checking Code X (http://cbx.proboards22.com/index.cgi) too see if they have a code that unlockes his model like they did with SvR for British Bulldog and HCTP for Hulk Hogan, Hollywood Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior and Jeff Hardy
why is everyone complaining about the lack of MNM/Rosie
THQ has a HISTORY of not including tag team champions
Wrestlemania 18/Shut your Mouth - no Billy and Chuck
Wrestlmeania 19 - No Haas/Benjamin or Los Gorrereros or Dudleys or La Rasistance
HCTP - No Bashams or La Rasistance
DOR/SvR - No La Rasistance or Eugene/Regal or Kenzo/Rene
DOR 2/SvR2k6 - No MNM or Hurricane/Rosey
all of that was from the top of my head so i might have made the odd mistake
every year people cry over it too -_-'
anyway, Roster is looking good, i'm so glad Hassan was able to make the game. Looks like this will be an amazing (last?) PS2 game and not a dissapointment (but still good) like SvR.
Dark-Slicer Diago
08-30-2005, 08:57 PM
Shut Your Mouth had Billy and Chuck
SvR at least had Duprèe
and SvR 2006 has Hurricane
Volchok
08-30-2005, 09:02 PM
Shut Your Mouth had Billy and Chuck in it...
McLegend
08-30-2005, 09:26 PM
:y: good sticky, The Mackem
PorkSoda
08-30-2005, 09:39 PM
Where the fuck is the pop in the entrance?
In the fridge maybe? That's where my grape soda is.
I like the videos so far. The game looks like its gonna be awesome. The commentary is great, too. It's cool that they have a chain of conversation throughout the thing. The moves look sweet too.
Danny Electric
08-30-2005, 10:24 PM
Shut up Danny. Go home.
Anyway, at least it's good news that I can get a clear version of Michelle McCool's theme from this game.
Yeah great theme.
You told me to go home, when I was on the internet. That doesn't make sense.
TerranRich
08-31-2005, 12:36 AM
Yeah great theme.
You told me to go home, when I was on the internet. That doesn't make sense.
I know. I don't make sense, period. :p Sorry I told you to shut up, but too many people complain, complain, complain, when this looks to be the best Smackdown! game by far.
Batsu
08-31-2005, 01:22 AM
The amount of detail put in the wrestlers...even Michelle McCool is ridiculous. That's crazy, the way she moves.
Looking forward to this game. Good thing to see that some old non-branded submissions (like the "Lift Up") are now Type B.
TerranRich
08-31-2005, 01:38 AM
THANK YOU, finally another person that appreciates the detail put into the game, whether it's Triple H or Michelle McCool (unlike all the others saying "Who cares about the Divas?"). I mean, if they put this much detail into Michelle, can you imagine the legends? The "less important" guys like Hurricane or Conway? And even look at Tony Chimel and Lilian Garcia for cryin' out loud.
I STILL want to hear about CAW and Season modes. I still say they should have done away with voiceovers in exchange for other features or more of the existing ones.
Evil Vito
08-31-2005, 07:42 AM
THANK YOU, finally another person that appreciates the detail put into the game, whether it's Triple H or Michelle McCool (unlike all the others saying "Who cares about the Divas?"). I mean, if they put this much detail into Michelle, can you imagine the legends? The "less important" guys like Hurricane or Conway? And even look at Tony Chimel and Lilian Garcia for cryin' out loud.
I STILL want to hear about CAW and Season modes. I still say they should have done away with voiceovers in exchange for other features or more of the existing ones.
<font color=goldenrod>To be honest, I appreciate the detail, but I don't really care as much about seeing the divas because I'll likely only use them in a match a couple of times (usually the first day I get the game I make sure I see EVERYONE available at the start before diving into season, but other than that...)
I think they should have done away with voiceovers because it limited the storylines so damn much (couldn't switch brands around and you always had the same storylines), but since your own character now has VO, methinks none of the voiceovers will mention a specific wrestler (thus allowing you to have different characters in the storylines).....one can only hope, at least...</font>
Cuzziebro
08-31-2005, 08:13 AM
I know. I don't make sense, period. :p Sorry I told you to shut up, but too many people complain, complain, complain, when this looks to be the best Smackdown! game by far.
I know it will be the best Smackdown game ever (on any console), but im just annoyed becuase thats what i liked about HCTP, the tag team but then it wasnt on SVR which pissed me off. Yes they had tag teams but not the titles, nor cruiserweight, nor womens. But other than that i think the detail is amazing, the commetary is a little dodgey but it will be fixed and so far the new match mechanics look good. I cant wait for it to be released!!!!
Impact!
08-31-2005, 08:53 AM
As long as I can ALIAYIAAAAAAAA people, I will be happy.
Also is anyone else going to change hogans music once he's been unlocked to Hassan's, or is that just me?
Cuzziebro
08-31-2005, 09:10 AM
Nah i want to change it to Snitz music. *It wasnt my fault......the WWE still want a fat, old, bald man to wrestle*
TerranRich
08-31-2005, 12:56 PM
I know it will be the best Smackdown game ever (on any console), but im just annoyed becuase thats what i liked about HCTP, the tag team but then it wasnt on SVR which pissed me off. Yes they had tag teams but not the titles, nor cruiserweight, nor womens. But other than that i think the detail is amazing, the commetary is a little dodgey but it will be fixed and so far the new match mechanics look good. I cant wait for it to be released!!!!
But that's the thing: SVR 2006 will have the tag team belts, so what's to complain about?
Just John
08-31-2005, 01:04 PM
Who will they give them to?
TerranRich
08-31-2005, 01:08 PM
That's a good question. Animal might not be a legend in this game, and Rosey definitely isn't in it. Neither are MNM or even the Heart Throbs (though they were never champs), I don't think. Regal isn't it either, is he? So it can't be Regal/Eugene. La Resistance perhaps? I know Conway's in there, is Grenier? I'm too lazy to look.
I'd say Guerrero and Mysterio for the WWE Tag Team belts. Ah well
loopydate
08-31-2005, 01:40 PM
Yeah, Grenier's in.
Just John
08-31-2005, 02:08 PM
Regal is in
UmbrellaCorporation
08-31-2005, 04:28 PM
Meh, SvR looks good on paper. The 2006 version, I mean.
I think I'll pass on it though, or at least until it becomes cheaper. Don't want to have to deal with "Now Loading..." every five seconds.
TerranRich
08-31-2005, 04:39 PM
Okay, then either La Resistance or Regal/Eugene could be the World Tag Team Champs.
You'll always get a "Loading" screen, unless you're using Nintendo 64 or something. Or are Gamecube's loading times significantly lower?
TerranRich
08-31-2005, 04:53 PM
Didn't I already give you a CD Quality version of her theme?
You did, Cool, and I'm listening to it right now. I forgot all about that. Sorry!
Jonster
08-31-2005, 04:57 PM
Okay, then either La Resistance or Regal/Eugene could be the World Tag Team Champs.
You'll always get a "Loading" screen, unless you're using Nintendo 64 or something. Or are Gamecube's loading times significantly lower?
Generally the loading times of the same game, are faster on a Gamecube. But there still are loading times for games, I'm playing through Killer7 at the moment (on the GC), and there's a lot of loading in that.
Only game I can think of console wise that has no loading times is Dead Or Alive Ultimate on the Xbox, but even that preloads things into the cache (but not every time you turn it on).
UmbrellaCorporation
08-31-2005, 05:00 PM
Okay, then either La Resistance or Regal/Eugene could be the World Tag Team Champs.
You'll always get a "Loading" screen, unless you're using Nintendo 64 or something. Or are Gamecube's loading times significantly lower?
Yeah, heh, Jonster is right.
I'm not bashing the PS2. I own all three consoles, and my PS2 gets a LOT of use. Thing is, if anything is ever multi-platformed, my PS2 gets ignored because of the horrible loading it has to deal with. Killer7 is a prime example indeed. There's still a lot of loading on the GC version, but not NEARLY as much as there is on the PS2.
Disturbed316
08-31-2005, 05:03 PM
*Sorry for the lateness of Michelle's notes, but I was at a Stereophonics concert last night and have just got in from work.*
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/646/646705/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050830000429548.jpg
Video 1 - Enterance
Woooooo another diva! This time it's Michelle McWHO!? Seriously, I have never heard of her. Hmmm says she was part of the 2004 Diva search, no wonder I have no idea who she is, I always used those segment as piss breaks. Anyway, she comes out to no crowd reaction what so ever, although to be fair I think it might be a fault with the game and not the fact that these people don't know who she is. She comes down with a big smile and shakes her thang for all the world to see. Although I don't know who she is, the detail on her is pretty incredible. She gets in the ring and just waves at people.
Video 2 - Fight time part I
Right, it's Michelle vs Torrie in this one. I passed a naked bloke the other day in Newcastle, carrying a woman on his back so I stopped him and asked what he was doing. He said he was on his way to a fancy dress party. I was really confussed so I asked him what he was going as. A turtle, he replied. I was still confussed so I asked him about the woman on his back. He replied "Thats Me shell".
Michelle punches Torrie before giving her a series of knee's to the gut. She then takes Torrie down with a dragon leg sweep. When Torrie gets up she gets a dropkick in the face. Torrie starts to fight back with some reversals and a back body drop. Michelle gets up and gives Torrie a hard Irish whip into the turnbuckle before kicking her in the face.
Video 3 - The end
Michelle reverses a sunset flip before kicking Torrie in the face ala Rey Mysterio. Michelle picks up Torrie and gives her a huge powerbomb finisher and pins her for 3. Michelle celebrates the victory by jumping around, waving and blowing kisses to the crowd.
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/646/646705/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050830000321180.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/646/646705/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050830000326367.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/646/646705/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050830000317634.jpg
Disturbed316
08-31-2005, 05:03 PM
Meh, nothing great here as she is a diva, although the detail they have put into her is pretty impressive :y:
Dark-Slicer Diago
08-31-2005, 05:28 PM
thats ok Disturbed, you have a life outside of boards, and I'd of did the notes for you like I did last year but I can't seem to get those attribute pics
Disturbed316
08-31-2005, 06:06 PM
Yeah, it's more difficult the pics this year as they have stuck them into the background of the little grid. It's easy to get around it if you know where to look ;)
TerranRich
08-31-2005, 06:07 PM
Woooooo another diva! This time it's Michelle McWHO!? Seriously, I have never heard of her. Hmmm says she was part of the 2004 Diva search, no wonder I have no idea who she is, I always used those segment as piss breaks.
Just so you know, she was hired after losing the '04 Waste-O-Time and debuted as sort of a fitness trainer, helping wrestlers like Eddie, RVD, and Mysterio with their stretching. She's currently at OVW training to become a wrestler. More power to her, I say.
TerranRich
08-31-2005, 06:09 PM
Generally the loading times of the same game, are faster on a Gamecube. But there still are loading times for games, I'm playing through Killer7 at the moment (on the GC), and there's a lot of loading in that.
Only game I can think of console wise that has no loading times is Dead Or Alive Ultimate on the Xbox, but even that preloads things into the cache (but not every time you turn it on).
Heh, try making an altered copy of a PS2 game (like altering the music and such). Loading times get nearly doubled, so I know what you mean. But because of dealing with DVD+R games, I'm used to the long loading times.
Evil Vito
08-31-2005, 06:12 PM
<font color=goldenrod>I'm guessing today's WOTD is gonna be a big name since they seem to be taking so long
*waits for it to be Scotty 2 Hotty or something*</font>
Dark-Slicer Diago
08-31-2005, 06:15 PM
Yeah, it's more difficult the pics this year as they have stuck them into the background of the little grid. It's easy to get around it if you know where to look ;)
yeah I know, I just can't find out where it is
Disturbed316
08-31-2005, 06:18 PM
Just so you know, she was hired after losing the '04 Waste-O-Time and debuted as sort of a fitness trainer, helping wrestlers like Eddie, RVD, and Mysterio with their stretching. She's currently at OVW training to become a wrestler. More power to her, I say.
Ah right. Probably wont use her though.
Disturbed316
08-31-2005, 06:19 PM
yeah I know, I just can't find out where it is
If you right click on any website you get an option called View Source. This brings up a notepad document of all the HTML coding from that site. You then gotta look through there for the link for the picture.
Dark-Slicer Diago
08-31-2005, 06:23 PM
oh, thanks, so now I know what to do when you get busy and ask me to do it for you
Disturbed316
08-31-2005, 06:28 PM
:cool:
SuperSlim
08-31-2005, 07:17 PM
no Victoria? :'(
Jonster
08-31-2005, 07:29 PM
Heh, try making an altered copy of a PS2 game (like altering the music and such). Loading times get nearly doubled, so I know what you mean. But because of dealing with DVD+R games, I'm used to the long loading times.
That's fair enough, it just annoys me that I could be playing rather than waiting when it gets too much. Earlier while playing one game, while it was loading, I had time for a game of Meteos on the DS.
I was quite gutted when I heard Xbox 360 won't have a HD as standard when I heard, as I was hoping it'd store things on it and reduce loading times greatly.
Dark-Slicer Diago
08-31-2005, 08:54 PM
Today's Superstar of the Day is, Chavo Guerrero
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/646/646926/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050831043544462.jpg
Chavo Guerrero's Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/646/646926/smackraw06_chavo_083105_00_wmvlow.wmv)
Chavo Guerrero vs Tajiri part 1 (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/646/646926/smackraw06_chavo_083105_01_wmvlow.wmv)
Chavo Guerrero vs Tajiri part 2 (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/646/646926/smackraw06_chavo_083105_02_wmvlow.wmv)
Attributes
(STR 6) (SUB 7.5) (DUR 6.5) (TEC 8) (SPD 8.5) (CHA 6.5) (HC 6.5) (STA 7.5) OV 79
Finisher - Gory Bomb and Train Wreck
Credit - Jeremy Dunham, ps2.ign.com
Cool King
08-31-2005, 09:08 PM
Chavo Guerrero's Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/646/646926/smackraw06_chavo_083105_00_wmvlow.wmv)
Is the crowd dead?
THQ have not put in any crowd reactions in his entrance.:wtf:
Evil Vito
08-31-2005, 09:18 PM
Is the crowd dead?
THQ have not put in any crowd reactions in his entrance.:wtf:
<font color=goldenrod>The past 3 wrestlers have had no crowd reactions.......I think they just implemented the music/announcing over the entrances because they may not be totally complete
Anyways, Chavo's stuff looks pretty awesome, especially the entrance</font>
Team Sheep
08-31-2005, 09:23 PM
What the hell is the train wreck?
Danny Electric
08-31-2005, 09:37 PM
Isn't that A-Train's finish?
TerranRich
08-31-2005, 10:55 PM
Wow, the detail put into Chavo is amazing. I have a feeling I'm going to be saying that about every single wrestler/diva/legend we see in the countdowns.
Yeah, a lot of people on the IGN boards claim that the version that guy has is the final one, but I seriously doubt it, because of the lack of crowd reactions to an entrance. I also hope it's not the final version because I want new licensed music in this game, not the same crap we've had for DOR and SVR.
Batsu
08-31-2005, 11:36 PM
no Victoria? :'(
Son of a Grill Crackin' Crack....I knew someone was missing!
TerranRich
09-01-2005, 12:06 AM
Those motherfuckers! 'sok, who knows, maybe she'll be a premade CAW or at least have her theme in there, so I can make a CAW of her. WTF man...
loopydate
09-01-2005, 01:38 AM
Okay, a day late, but... That doesn't really look like Michelle. If you're going to give her a roster spot over someone like Rosey, at least get her right. I thought they were scanning faces this year? All the other SoDs have looked amazing, but Michelle looks generic as hell when, imo, she's one of the prettier divas.
The Cerebral Assassin
09-01-2005, 01:45 AM
When's the official release date?
Nervous Ferret
09-01-2005, 01:47 AM
January 12th
Drakul
09-01-2005, 01:56 AM
Okay, a day late, but... That doesn't really look like Michelle. If you're going to give her a roster spot over someone like Rosey, at least get her right. I thought they were scanning faces this year? All the other SoDs have looked amazing, but Michelle looks generic as hell when, imo, she's one of the prettier divas.
Every year the say they are scanning faces for the first time. Then the next year they again say there scanning faces for the first time. I've heard/read them say that for every PS2 smackdown! game.
loopydate
09-01-2005, 02:00 AM
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/646/646705/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050830000429548.jpg
http://www.gerweck.net/michellemccool.jpg</>
Batsu
09-01-2005, 02:48 AM
It kinda looks like her, but Michelle (in-game)'s eyes are lighter than they are IRL.
loopydate
09-01-2005, 02:59 AM
I think they made her chin too wide, too. Her face is kinda blocky-looking.
Disturbed316
09-01-2005, 06:32 AM
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/646/646926/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050831043544462.jpg
Video 1 - Enterance
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH CHAVO! I am so glad he is in this game. I don't see myself using him much, but at least his horrible new gimmick isn't here. We first see a loading screen of Trish, looking very hot. I must say, that is one whicked Mexican moustache Chavo's got there :cool: Chavo comes out struting his stuff, although no crowd reaction. Chavo continues to walk down to the ring, and does his kneeling taunt when he finally gets in there. Detail is great, I think we may be saying that alot during this countdown.
Video 2 - Fight time part I
Chavo vs Tajiri gets off to a flying start as Chavo knocks Tajiri for six with a huge running clothesline. He picks up Tajiri and clobbers him with a couple of punches before dropping him with a neckbreaker. lol, a Chavo sucks chant starts up. Chavo doesn't take well to this a pounds away before taking Tajiri down with an armdrag.
Video 3 - The end
Tajiri is fighting back with some kicks but Chavo reverses into a russian leg sweep. Chavo picks up Tajiri and goes to hit the Gory Bomb, to which the crowd boo the fuck out. The screen turns black and white to add to the drama of the finishing move. That could get anoying I think. Chavo pins Tajiri for 3.
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/646/646926/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050831042213472.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/646/646926/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050831042212534.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/646/646926/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050831042214800.jpg
Disturbed316
09-01-2005, 06:33 AM
Pretty awesome stuff there. Great detail once again. I think the cinematic stuff on the finishers could get anoying after awhile, I'm hoping it will be optional, like the matrix thing from a couple of games ago.
Drakul
09-01-2005, 06:42 AM
Pretty awesome stuff there. Great detail once again. I think the cinematic stuff on the finishers could get anoying after awhile, I'm hoping it will be optional, like the matrix thing from a couple of games ago.
It will be. They said there was two effects you could trigger. I think there the replays and the Black and white super slow mo.
Evil Vito
09-01-2005, 06:52 AM
<font color=goldenrod>I'm with everyone thus far that says that the detail is INCREDIBLE...even for the low carders
Smackdown guy today.....got a bad feeling they will do yet another diva....but if they do, hopefully it will be Christy.....I wanna see if they made her forehead massive like IRL</font> :shifty:
Cuzziebro
09-01-2005, 07:12 AM
If you listen to the start of Chavo vs Tajiri, if you listen close enough, the match starts off and JR says *Okay Bert we're about to get started*. Can anyone else hear him say BERT or is it just me?
Team Sheep
09-01-2005, 08:03 AM
Bert the Hitman Hart.
Impact!
09-01-2005, 08:10 AM
The Bert there is, The Bert there was, and the Bert there ever will be.
Cuzziebro
09-01-2005, 08:57 AM
It will be. They said there was two effects you could trigger. I think there the replays and the Black and white super slow mo.
I think the Black and White thing is a Super Special, i remember THQ team talking about something like it. Its like when you have two specials or momentuem for ages or something like that i can't remember fully.
Cool King
09-01-2005, 09:59 AM
If you listen to the start of Chavo vs Tajiri, if you listen close enough, the match starts off and JR says *Okay Bert we're about to get started*. Can anyone else hear him say BERT or is it just me?
I think it's just you, because I hear J.R saying "Keeper, We're about to get started":-\
PorkSoda
09-01-2005, 10:19 AM
Sounds like K Bert. HAHA!
Michelle has the six thing in both. The game and real life :love:
The crowd reactions in the entrances are not good. Hopefully thats just a test :y:
Disturbed316
09-01-2005, 10:27 AM
I heard Bert. OMG BERT AND EARNIE ARE IN THE GAME!
Impact!
09-01-2005, 10:38 AM
:lol: Can you imagine if you could unlock them as secret characters.
JR: Bert and Ernie are together on one sick vile nasty page.
or
JR: Can you believe it King, Ernie just won the world heavyweight championship.
Disturbed316
09-01-2005, 10:52 AM
lol imagine Bert and Earnie at the burried alive match.
Earnie: Bert......Bert? Hmmm I wonder where Bert's gone?
ala the time Bert got burried at the beach and Earnie couldn't find him :'(
SuperSlim
09-01-2005, 11:04 AM
I just hope they have Vicky on there some way or another or I won't be happy
TerranRich
09-01-2005, 01:08 PM
JR: "We're here LIVE at Survivor Series! I'm Jim Ross, along with Elmo!"
Elmo: "This is the song, la la la-la, Elmo's soooong..."
JR: "BAHGAWD THE CARNAGE!!!"
Elmo: "Puppies!!!"
Just John
09-01-2005, 01:26 PM
Chavo 79??!!:rant:
Dark-Slicer Diago
09-01-2005, 03:30 PM
I could be a female today and if so it's Stacy, here's proof that it's not Christy (http://boards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=97667987&start=97685875), read the 1 post and then scroll down to Jeremy's(Makaze) himself
Disturbed316
09-01-2005, 05:10 PM
It better not be another diva, I've used up my weekly sarcasim allowance for the the week.
Dark-Slicer Diago
09-01-2005, 05:14 PM
so have I
Loose Cannon
09-01-2005, 06:31 PM
yea, me too guys
Nervous Ferret
09-01-2005, 06:32 PM
AS HAVE I!!! haha! :shifty:
Loose Cannon
09-01-2005, 06:34 PM
lollerblades
Nervous Ferret
09-01-2005, 06:37 PM
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Volchok
09-01-2005, 06:44 PM
So whats the Divas to Superstars count?
Disturbed316
09-01-2005, 06:55 PM
7 Divas/43 Superstars
Volchok
09-01-2005, 06:57 PM
meh... not that bad when you look at it...
Dark-Slicer Diago
09-01-2005, 07:00 PM
Today's Superstar of the Day is, Randy Orton
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/647/647259/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050901025056492.jpg
Randy Orton's Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/647/647259/smackraw_orton_090105_00_wmvlow.wmv)
Randy Orton vs Undertaker part 1 (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/647/647259/smackraw_orton_090105_01_wmvlow.wmv)
Randy Orton vs Undertaker part 2 (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/647/647259/smackraw_orton_090105_02_wmvlow.wmv)
Attributes
(STR 7.5) (SUB 7.5) (DUR 8) (TEC 8) (SPD 7.5) (CHA 8) (HC 7.5) (STA 8) OV 86
Finisher - RKO
Credit - Jeremy Dunham, ps2.ign.com
Disturbed316
09-01-2005, 07:02 PM
Holy crap, Orton :eek:
Notes to come ASAP
Volchok
09-01-2005, 07:02 PM
WOOOOOO Orton
Volchok
09-01-2005, 07:04 PM
Disturbed.. Remind me to rep you for all the work you've done.. I know its not much but eh.. it's somthin.
Disturbed316
09-01-2005, 07:23 PM
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/647/647259/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050901025056492.jpg
Video 1 - Enterance
HEY! HEY NOTHING YOU CAN SAY, NOTHING GONNA CHANGE WHAT YOU DONE TO ME! Orton comes out and poses at the top of the ramp and the pyro goes off. Orton walks down to the ring continuing to pose. Christ, the detail is reaching insane levels. Orton hops onto the apron and climbs in the ring. he then goes and poses on the turnbuckle. The lighting effects on this enterance are incredible.
Video 2 - Fight Time Part I
It's Orton vs Taker and Orton gets the first shot in with a flying forearm. Orton then slams Taker down with a nasty shoulder breaker. Orton tricks Taker into a test of strength but blasts him with a belly to belly suplex. Taker's body is in yellow now. Orton nails a gutbuster, Taker body is now in orange, must be on easy level. BTW the commentry is great.
Video 3 - The End
Orton nails Taker with a side suplex/back body drop thing. Orton then taunts Taker, signalling he's about to hit the RKO, but then Undertaker punches him in the mouth. Orton punches Taker and then hits the RKO. Taker is out for the count after just 2 minutes 52. Orton climbs the turnbuckle and taunts.
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/647/647259/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050901024155275.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/647/647259/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050901024156462.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/647/647259/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050901024158665.jpg
Disturbed316
09-01-2005, 07:24 PM
Wow, Orton looks great and his enterance is brilliant, it's really improved since last years version. Didn't see the new RKO here, although no biggy.
Evil Vito
09-01-2005, 08:03 PM
<font color=goldenrod>HOLY FUCK @ the detail......crazy
And what's better is that the past 3 years I've been floored by the graphics when watching them on the computer beforehand, only to be even more floored when I actually saw them on the TV.......I can't imagine how amazing this must look on a fullscreen
Also, :lol: @ the guy using super easy mode
I've heard several different release dates, so let's just say well over 60 days to go</font> :(
TerranRich
09-01-2005, 10:49 PM
Seriously, bitching about the Divas makes no sense. Wouldn't you rather have IGN get them out of the way first? I would like that. I laugh at all the morons on the IGN boards that say "I WANT CENA NEXT!" or "I WANT HBK NEXT!" Seriously, if they use up all their good guys first, what's left for the countdown?
God, you people will bitch no matter what. Divas, WAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!
Danny Electric
09-02-2005, 12:23 AM
Mate the divas just take up space that could be used for people we care about.
I have owned every Smackdown game and the divas are terrible.
loopydate
09-02-2005, 12:32 AM
What DE says. I don't give a damn where they are in the countdown. I just want to see MNM instead of Michelle McCool and Joy Giovanni.
Volchok
09-02-2005, 12:53 AM
Seriously... MNM=Greatness
Boondock Saint
09-02-2005, 01:35 AM
What DE says. I don't give a damn where they are in the countdown. I just want to see MNM instead of Michelle McCool and Joy Giovanni.
:y:
Destor
09-02-2005, 02:51 AM
I'm guessing I'm the only one who hates the SmackDown! video game franchise as a whole huh? DoR2 4 life.
Drakul
09-02-2005, 04:56 AM
Looks that way.Why?
Cool King
09-02-2005, 06:38 AM
I'm guessing I'm the only one who hates the SmackDown! video game franchise as a whole huh?
:wtf: Why do you hate it?
DoR2 4 life.
:lol: Sorry, but I have just gotta lol at that.
Evil Vito
09-02-2005, 07:35 AM
What DE says. I don't give a damn where they are in the countdown. I just want to see MNM instead of Michelle McCool and Joy Giovanni.
:y: <font color=goldenrod>Exactly.....no reason MNM shouldn't have been in this game, same with Rosey
Released guys: Haas, Jindrak, Spike, Joy
Who should be in instead: Nitro, Mercury, Melina, Rosey
But whatever, despite that....this roster is still far greater from last year's, which was lacking many more noteworthy people.
Hopefully MNM's entrance moves will still be in....so I can watch my painted MNM CAWs enter to it.</font>
McDoogle
09-02-2005, 10:40 AM
Was there no crowd noise during Orton's entrance or was it just me?
PorkSoda
09-02-2005, 10:59 AM
No crowd noise :(
The two handed RKO looks better than it did before :y:
Just John
09-02-2005, 12:46 PM
Seriously, bitching about the Divas makes no sense. Wouldn't you rather have IGN get them out of the way first? I would like that. I laugh at all the morons on the IGN boards that say "I WANT CENA NEXT!" or "I WANT HBK NEXT!" Seriously, if they use up all their good guys first, what's left for the countdown?
God, you people will bitch no matter what. Divas, WAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!
you're on IGN boards? whats your username?
Sadistic
09-02-2005, 01:43 PM
It really sucks that the Mexicools aren't in it. Imagine the ladder matches :drool:
Just John
09-02-2005, 02:07 PM
Oh yeah that reminds me we have more than one ladder in ladder matches now:y:
loopydate
09-02-2005, 03:36 PM
Despite the dated roster (which, as mentioned before, is still worlds better than last year's addition), I can't wait for this game. Should be fantastic. Probably going to trade in last year's SVR for cash toward this one, which will be the first time I've ever done that with a game. Last year's game just doesn't have the replay value that past editions had, imo.
Sadistic
09-02-2005, 04:17 PM
Oh yeah that reminds me we have more than one ladder in ladder matches now:y:
But no 30 foot ladders:n:
Batsu
09-02-2005, 04:29 PM
<blockquote><p>You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TerranRich again.</p></blockquote>
^^^^ Powerful posting
McDoogle
09-02-2005, 04:43 PM
Why does it matter if there is or isn't a 30 foot ladder? 2 normal ladders are good enough. I only wish that when you break a table, the table itself wont dissapear after it's snapped. I forgot which smackdown game had it like that.
Just John
09-02-2005, 05:04 PM
Meh I wanted to suicide dive off one
Eunos
09-02-2005, 05:14 PM
What? No Tomko?
Dark-Slicer Diago
09-02-2005, 05:22 PM
no he is not in
Eunos
09-02-2005, 05:27 PM
Hmmm. Has the Smackdown series always been this bad for giving us out dated Rosters or has this only just began in the SVR Series?
I mean Jindrak?, Spike?, Hass? (Though i like him). These guys have been gone for a good few Months now.
I hope if they do take guys out they don't remove Hassan and Davari.
Dark-Slicer Diago
09-02-2005, 05:34 PM
the roster I posted is 100% final
Eunos
09-02-2005, 05:40 PM
Ah well.
I still like it.
Least there's no Hardcore Holly.
Cool King
09-02-2005, 06:01 PM
Least there's no Hardcore Holly.
Damn!
Now who will I face on Velocity?
Disturbed316
09-02-2005, 06:13 PM
I WANT HBK TONITE BECOZ HE IZ DA MAN!
Dark-Slicer Diago
09-02-2005, 06:28 PM
I might be HBK, Masters or Carlito tonight, I hope HBK or Masters
Dark-Slicer Diago
09-02-2005, 06:37 PM
Today's Superstar of the Day is, Scotty 2 Hotty
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/647/647530/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050902022401157.jpg
Scotty 2 Hotty's Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/647/647530/smackraw06_2hotty_090205_01_wmvlow.wmv)
Scotty 2 Hotty vs The Hurricane part 1 (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/647/647530/smackraw06_2hotty_090205_02_wmvlow.wmv)
Scotty 2 Hotty vs The Hurricane part 2 (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/647/647530/smackraw06_2hotty_090205_03_wmvlow.wmv)
Attributes
(STR 6.5) (SUB 6.5) (DUR 6.5) (TEC 6.5) (SPD 7.5) (CHA 7.5) (HC 6) (STA 7.5) OV 77
Finisher - The Worm and DDT 16
Credit - Jeremy Dunham, ps2.ign.com
Disturbed316
09-02-2005, 06:44 PM
lol god damn it, I would rather have had another diva.
Notes to come next.
Cool King
09-02-2005, 06:48 PM
Scotty 2 Hotty's Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/647/647530/smackraw06_2hotty_090205_01_wmvlow.wmv)
The crowd is dead....Again!
And the last time Scotty wore trousers like that, it was 3 years ago.
But I think that's the best entrance Scotty has had in a game.:y:
Disturbed316
09-02-2005, 07:10 PM
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/647/647530/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050902022401157.jpg
Video 1 - Enterance
Wow, I can't believe it. I have finally found someone on this roster who I don't want on here MORE than the divas. Yes, I don't give a flying fuck about Scotty 2 Hotty. Never have, never will. Christ, when was the last time he was on tv? Anyway, Scotty comes out looking like a gimp, trying to dance his way down to the ring. What happened to his hat? Poor Scotty, he is trying his best yet nobody likes him. He gets in the ring and bounces around looking gay. Lighting is ok though.
Video 2 - Fight Time Part I
Wooooo, it's Scotty vs Katrina, whoops I ment Hurricane (abit of tropical humor there for you folks....oops, done it again!) Match already is 50 seconds in as Scotty reverses a punch into an ARMBAR! Nice flowing annimation there. We see the submission bar come up, it's changed slightly from last year. This year we have got a green vertical line that we have to stop in between two blue parralelle (whatever) lines. Hurricane manages to stop it in escape and he gets out. Hurricane reverses but Scotty reverses again and nails Hurricane with a straight kick to the jaw. Scotty then smacks Hurricane with a one man flapjack and then hits a ddt after many reversals.
Video 3 - The End
HOLY SHIT, HURRICANE IS BUSTED WIDE OPEN! Sick, Hurricane is dripping blood all over the canvas, this is GAB when Eddie bladed wrong. Meh, the blood on the mat disappears after awhile. Although Hurricane is constantly oozing. WAIT! Scotty has Hurricane on the ground and hits the W-O-R-M, lol Tazz called MC girlpants, looks like Tazz watches The Cramp Twins. He then picks up Hurricane and gives him his DDT finisher, screen goes B+W for this, it looks really good, shame the move is actually pretty crappy. HURRICANE PUNCHES SCOTTY IN THE BALLS! Great reversal there, simply because Hurricane was getting pwn'd by Scotty. Hurricane is is bleeding really badly. Scotty delivers a shoulder block and pins for a close two count, which brings up a cool blurry kickout motion and goes to Scotty who cant believe it was two.
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/647/647530/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050902022324722.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/647/647530/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050902022326488.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/647/647530/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050902022325410.jpg
Disturbed316
09-02-2005, 07:12 PM
Meh, Scotty 2 Hotty, wont be using him at all. Glad we saw the blood mechanic working though. I think the dead crowd during these past enterances is one of the many things that are left to be sorted out. The more I see of this game the more hyped I'm getting for it.
Volchok
09-02-2005, 07:13 PM
How the fuck does he manage to get into every game?
Cool King
09-02-2005, 07:14 PM
Video 1 - Enterance
Wow, I can't believe it. I have finally found someone on this roster who I don't want on here MORE than the divas. Yes, I don't give a flying fuck about Scotty 2 Hotty. Never have, never will. Christ, when was the last time he was on tv? Anyway, Scotty comes out looking like a gimp, trying to dance his way down to the ring. What happened to his hat? Poor Scotty, he is trying his best yet nobody likes him. He gets in the ring and bounces around looking gay. Lighting is ok though.
I think Scotty is great, I have always liked him, ever since I first saw him.
Disturbed316
09-02-2005, 07:28 PM
He's never really appealed to me. Plus, the fact he's been stuck in the same gimmick for the last 7 odd years hasn't helped. Dancing morons don't do "it" for me :-\
Evil Vito
09-02-2005, 07:41 PM
<font color=goldenrod>The blood thing is totally awesome.....shame it disappears though, I woulda loved to do a 6-guy hardcore match and watch the mat color change to completely red by the end :cool: Getting more and more hyped each day
Guaranteed Raw guy Monday....hoping for Masters, but pretty much anything other than another diva will do</font>
KingofOldSchool
09-02-2005, 07:44 PM
Well at least I found someone to put in the Masterlock.
the roster I posted is 100% final
don't be so sure, Maven was removed from DOR 2
UmbrellaCorporation
09-02-2005, 08:36 PM
How the fuck does he manage to get into every game?
Best. Question. Ever.
Team Sheep
09-02-2005, 08:40 PM
I think it's cool how Smackdown! doesn't have a ramp this year, just like in real life, so now there's room for JBL's limo to come out (hopefully).
Drakul
09-02-2005, 11:08 PM
I think it's cool how Smackdown! doesn't have a ramp this year, just like in real life, so now there's room for JBL's limo to come out (hopefully).
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/638/638978/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050804002202153.jpg
TerranRich
09-03-2005, 12:15 AM
Okay, here goes:
Okay, you guys are missing the point. The Divas are already in the game. It's done. But I've still seen some guys bitching that a Diva was next in the coutndown, and there is no point in complaining about that. Would you rather have the Divas at the end? I say save the best for last. Get all the Scotty 2 Hotty's and the Mark Jindraks and the Divas out first. THEN, hit us with the Triple H's and the Randy Ortons and the Legends. "BLARG!! I AWNT TIRPLHE H TO BE SHOWN NEXT!!! NOT A DIVA!!! ARRRHGGUGUUU!!"
As for MNM not being in, I'd have to guess it might have something to do with the cutoff date. They debuted April 14th, so maybe that was after the cutoff date? As for Rosey, who knows. They probably didn't deem him important enough at the time of the cutoff date.
And I'm not registered on the IGN boards, I just lurk around. I wouldn't dare bother to register with that cesspool of n00bish comments and pointless threads.
Eunos: Dated roster? Cutoff date. Dated roster? Cutoff date. Dated roster? Cutoff date. Get the picture?
And why do we need 30 foot ladders? I don't really remember many matches using those, if any.
The crowd is dead because it's probably not the final release! ;)
Drakul
09-03-2005, 12:31 AM
The cutoff date was summerslam this year wasn't it?
Or Wrestlemania.
Volchok
09-03-2005, 12:39 AM
And I'm not registered on the IGN boards, I just lurk around. I wouldn't dare bother to register with that cesspool of n00bish comments and pointless threads.
As opposed to here with all the noobs making comments and pointless threads? :?:
TerranRich
09-03-2005, 01:14 AM
Not as many as the IGN boards. My God, have you SEEN those boards? Da horra...da horra...
TerranRich
09-03-2005, 01:15 AM
The cutoff date was summerslam this year wasn't it?
Or Wrestlemania.
I heard it was Summerslam, but that wouldn't make much sense in terms of scannig all the wrestlers' faces, motion-capturing all their entrances and taunts, etc... I'd say more like WrestleMania.
Volchok
09-03-2005, 01:29 AM
eh.. who cares about the cut off... we got what we got, atleast its better then SvR..
UmbrellaCorporation
09-03-2005, 01:37 AM
Not as many as the IGN boards. My God, have you SEEN those boards? Da horra...da horra...
You speak truth!
The IGN boards are HORRIBLE. I can only think of one board worse than IGN, and that's the GameFAQs message boards.
Sadistic
09-03-2005, 05:20 AM
And why do we need 30 foot ladders? I don't really remember many matches using those, if any.
UUUhhh EVERY TLC match and a few ladder matches have used them. They're so fucking cool, they are in the raw series for xbox and when you're on the top and it gets tipped over you fall so far out of the ring and also you can climb the 30 foot ladder set up on the outside and do an ariel move on a guy that's inside the ring.
Drakul
09-03-2005, 05:22 AM
also you can climb the 30 foot ladder set up on the outside and do an ariel move on a guy that's inside the ring.
To be fair you can do that already.
Cuzziebro
09-03-2005, 06:42 AM
I agree, I used to jump from outside to inside the ring all the time on SVR
Impact!
09-03-2005, 09:17 AM
[IMG]
Christ, when was the last time he was on tv?
:lol: Last edition of smackdown, He teamed with Funaki and faced Burchill and Regal.
Team Sheep
09-03-2005, 09:39 AM
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/638/638978/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050804002202153.jpg
Lol, looks kinda gay. :-\
Volchok
09-03-2005, 09:40 AM
No but seriously BESIDES this shit with Regal which don't count.. when did he have a major storyline?
Cuzziebro
09-03-2005, 10:57 AM
Him and Rikishi had a fued with the Bashams and Shaniqua, which lasted like 3 weeks i think, about a year ago.
Just John
09-03-2005, 01:08 PM
Terran, look out for me on the IGN boards, I dont post too much though, I have the same name as here.
also sottys entrance seems very lame without the crowd
Disturbed316
09-03-2005, 06:09 PM
:lol: Last edition of smackdown, He teamed with Funaki and faced Burchill and Regal.
lol, oh well.
Disturbed316
09-03-2005, 06:10 PM
Yeah, I no longer post at either IGN or GameFAQs, the posts there do my head in. I've been signed up for over two years at IGN and only have about 80 posts.
Just John
09-04-2005, 01:59 PM
they reply so fast there they must live in those boards
Dark-Slicer Diago
09-04-2005, 04:32 PM
I think that the n00bs on the IGN Smackdown boards live there, you get 100 posts a minutes asking "whens the countdown? who's tonights superstar? where's the countdown? who do you think is tonights superstar?" it gets really annoying. Then you have the UBER-N00BS who bump the previous days superstar, or even earlier like friday with what that *********** GoW_KrOwS(or what ever his name was) did, not only The Undertaker, but he bumped every single thread that Jeremy Dunham posted for SvR 2006
Sadistic
09-04-2005, 10:04 PM
My Thumb Tack System:
First of all you must reach under the ring and you grab the bag.
You can press a square while the bag is in your hand to spill out the tacks anywhere you want.
Then you have to irish whip your oppenent towards the tacks.
Your opponent will then be groggy and reeling in front of the tacks (similar to when you whip your opponent towards the edge of the roof of the hell in a cell).
When your opponent is in this state you must do your move.
While your opponent is in this state, by pressing a directional button and circle there are 4 different moves you can do to your opponent to slam him into the tacks.
A lot of tacks will then stay on your opponents back and the remainging tacks on the ground will be useless. Your opponent will have tacks on his back (with blood) for the rest of the match.
This would be so good and as you can see it's not complicated at all. What are your thoughts? Also I would be happy to answer any questions about the system.
Cool King
09-04-2005, 10:19 PM
Just a quick question.
Is this official?
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/object/717/717798/smackdownraw2006_temp_ps2boxboxart_160w.jpg
TerranRich
09-04-2005, 10:46 PM
Sadistic, I was never really that big on adding the thumbtacks to a wrestling game (or having them in at all), but after hearing your idea, I think it could be done well enough to be added for once. Awesome post. :y:
TerranRich
09-04-2005, 10:46 PM
Just a quick question.
Is this official?
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/object/717/717798/smackdownraw2006_temp_ps2boxboxart_160w.jpg
If you read the 1,000,000 threads by various n00bs about that picture, you'll see that it's just a preliminary box art placeholder until it's released. :)
Savio
09-05-2005, 02:27 AM
You can still do regular Irish Whips while running and tapping circle, but regular whips are no longer possible when standing still.Are you kidding me you can't whip while standing still?
TerranRich
09-05-2005, 03:18 AM
So what do I do when I want to throw my opponent TO the turnbuckle, not THROUGH it?
Drakul
09-05-2005, 03:29 AM
I think sadistics thumb tack idea was on the IGN forums.
Just John
09-05-2005, 01:37 PM
My Thumb Tack System:
First of all you must reach under the ring and you grab the bag.
You can press a square while the bag is in your hand to spill out the tacks anywhere you want.
I hought of this part a long time ago and any moves that land on the area thats scattered on do double damage (pedigree anyone?)
But I didnt extend it that far, Great minds think alike (but your went a bit further)
Sadistic
09-05-2005, 01:51 PM
I think sadistics thumb tack idea was on the IGN forums.
Really? I've never even gone onto the IGN forums.
Sadistic
09-05-2005, 01:52 PM
I hought of this part a long time ago and any moves that land on the area thats scattered on do double damage (pedigree anyone?)
But I didnt extend it that far, Great minds think alike (but your went a bit further)
Yes, double damage also. I forgot to mention that. Great minds do think alike :D
The groggy thing would look ridiculous. They just need a decent contact system. That way you could use tables like they should be instead of having to roll the opponent on top first.
It would be ideal if they had a physics engine, not an over the top type but at least some character bones. They already have the limb detection, all they need to do is work with that. That way you could cut down on animations and put in more or even finish the rosters off. You make enough animations to carry off the animations and use the physics engine to have the other wrestler take the move.
Then if they have an area of effect on the wrestlers, like from the knees to the armpits, if any part of that area hits the objects, the object breaks or performs the task it's suppose to. If it below the knees or above the shoulders, have animations that react accordingly.
So say you suplex someone onto a table, if they hit in the area, it breaks. If they are too far away and only the feet hit, the table doesn't break and acts as a solid object causing the legs to pull towards the chest. If they end up going to far, probably not possible with a suplex but if they released I guess, and hit above the shoulders, the head would bend towards the chest.
Try naming moves where a physics reaction wouldn't look better or work, just to see if this is possible.
Evil Vito
09-05-2005, 05:49 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Still no WOTD....though now that I think about it, there probably won't be one because of Labor Day (ie: Jeremy has a day off and gets to play SVR2006 all day)</font> :shifty:
Dark-Slicer Diago
09-05-2005, 07:02 PM
so did I, we might get one today because we did last year
Evil Vito
09-05-2005, 10:08 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Yeah I'm guessing there's no WOTD tonight, doubt they'd do it this late
Wouldn't be surprised if Jeremy does both Bashams tomorrow or something since they are probably going to have the exact same attributes/moves and have only a slight alteration in appearance anyway</font> :o
Dark-Slicer Diago
09-05-2005, 10:20 PM
I think they well, but there finishers are different, Danny Bashem(RAW) - Brain Damage(Super Brainbuster I think it was) and Doug Bashem(Smackdown) - The Last Impression(Leg Lariat, looks like Big Shows Hog Lock except it's a running move)
Drakul
09-05-2005, 10:40 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Yeah I'm guessing there's no WOTD tonight, doubt they'd do it this late</font>
Maybe after Raw is finished?
And Sadistic, I'm sure I saw that on the IGN board and then there was like 50 replies of nothing but "great idea". Still, good idea anyway.
Champion of Europa
09-06-2005, 12:22 AM
I think they well, but there finishers are different, Danny Bashem(RAW) - Brain Damage(Super Brainbuster I think it was) and Doug Bashem(Smackdown) - The Last Impression(Leg Lariat, looks like Big Shows Hog Lock except it's a running move)
Hate to nitpick, but the Brain Damage is a double armed Chokeslam, much like A-Train's old finisher. That is, unless he's changed it for a more dangerous move since coming to the WWE. I can completely see how that could happen. ;)
TerranRich
09-06-2005, 03:07 AM
I hope they have a Legend in the countdown, just to make us wanting more, then mix in the Snitsky's and Conway's. ;)
Dark-Slicer Diago
09-06-2005, 10:38 AM
Monday's Superstar of the Day is Lita
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/647/647900/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050906031547574.jpg
Lita's Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/647/647900/smackraw06_lita_090505_01_wmvlow.wmv)
Lita vs Michelle McCool part 1 (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/647/647900/smackraw06_lita_090505_02_wmvlow.wmv)
Lita vs Michelle McCool part 2/Victory (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/647/647900/smackraw06_lita_090505_03_wmvlow.wmv)
Attributes
(STR 3.5) (SUB 5.5) (DUR 4) (TEC 5.5) (SPD 7.5) (CHA 8.5) (HC 5) (STA 7.5) OV 65
Finisher - Diving Moonsault 3 and Lita DDT
Credit - Jeremy Dunham, ps2.ign.com
Dark-Slicer Diago
09-06-2005, 10:46 AM
Today's Superstar of the Day is, Steven Richards
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/647/647901/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050906034356704.jpg
Steven Richards' Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/647/647901/smackraw06_stevie_090605_01_wmvlow.wmv)
Steven Richards vs Chavo Guerrero part 1 (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/647/647901/smackraw06_stevie_090605_02_wmvlow.wmv)
Steven Richards vs Chavo Guerrero part 2/Victory (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/647/647901/smackraw06_stevie_090605_03_wmvlow.wmv)
Attributes
(STR 7) (SUB 6.5) (DUR 7) (TEC 7) (SPD 7) (CHA 6.5) (HC 7.5) (STA 7) OV 77
Finisher - Double Arm and DDT Super Kick
Credit - Jeremy Dunham, ps2.ign.com
High Impact v.W.o
09-06-2005, 11:12 AM
So are they doing two at a time or something, also lol at Lita being Hardcore (by diva standards).
Dark-Slicer Diago
09-06-2005, 11:30 AM
its 1 a day, he missed it yesterday you we got today's(Richards) and yesterdays(Lita)
High Impact v.W.o
09-06-2005, 11:54 AM
Awesome.
Morgan
09-06-2005, 12:28 PM
Damn, Lita moves really realistic in her entrance. Almost doesn't feel like a videogame at all.
TerranRich
09-06-2005, 03:55 PM
And just from that profile pic above she looks completely realistic. Regardless of whether they really DID scan the wrestlers' faces in previous games, this time they did it for real. :naughty:
Evil Vito
09-06-2005, 04:06 PM
<font color=goldenrod>The string of amazingly detailed wrestlers continues.........:cool: @ Stevie bloodying Chavo with the Stevie Kick
Fuck I need this game</font> :mad:
Disturbed316
09-06-2005, 04:35 PM
Notes to come in a minute or whenever.
Sadistic
09-06-2005, 05:16 PM
What I don't like about this year's roster:
Let's look at this week's raw and the matches that were on it.
(In bold are the wrestlers that are IN the game)
Kurt Angle vs. Eugene
Val Venis and Viscera vs. Romero and Antonio
Matt Hardy vs. Snitsky
Tyson Tomko vs. John Cena
Ashley vs. Torrie Wilson
Shelton Benjamin vs. Rob Conway
Cade and Murdoch vs. Rosey and The Hurricane
Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Masters
So therefore out of 20 performers of last night's Raw, only 10 of them are in the game.
Disturbed316
09-06-2005, 05:29 PM
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/647/647900/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050906031547574.jpg
Video 1 - Enterance
OH YES, ANOTHER DIVA! :roll: Slut's music starts and she comes out. She walks down to the ring and for some reason keeps throwing up Devil Horns to the crowd. She eventually tires of this and runs down to the ring and slides in. She climbs the turnbuckle and throws up more Horns. She then moves across to the oposite turnbuckle and does the same. Fucking slut.
Video 2 - Fight time
It's Slut vs Michelle McWHO!? What a dream match here folks. Slut dropkicks Michelle and lands some punches to her back. Slut then applies the sleeper to her. JR has a hissy fit at no one by saying "DO YOU WANT ME TO CALL THIS MATCH OR NOT!?" Can you guess what my reply was? Slut drops Michelle with a jawbreaker before going for a neckbreaker, which Michelle nicely reverses. Fucking slut.
Video 3 - The End
Slut smashes Michelle in the face with a running dropkick before leveling her with a DDT, the one which is her finisher. Slut then climbs the turnbuckle and performs a moonsault for the three count. Slut celebrates her victory by blowing kisses to the crowd. What a fucking slut.
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/647/647900/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050906031508355.jpg
Disturbed316
09-06-2005, 05:41 PM
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/647/647901/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050906034356704.jpg
Video 1 - The Enterance
I'LL SHOW YOU, YOU'LL SEE! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS It's Stevie Richards in a wrestling game :love: Although it's not BWO Stevie, it's better than nothing. Stevie comes out sporting some lovely white shorts with SR on them. The detail is amazing, it looks like what Stevie would look like if he was looking in a computerised mirror. Stevie powerwalks his way down to the ring and pauses for what looks like a prayer. Stevie climbs in and does his one handed salute on the turnbuckle.
Video 2 - Fight Time
It's Stevie vs Chavo and we are a minute in. Stevie delivers three knee's to Chavo's gut and then stamps on his face. He then levels him with a headbut and then taunts Chavo. Pretty short one here.
Video 3 - The End
Chavo is fighting back and rakes the eyes of Stevie. Stevie replies with his Double Arm DDT which sends Lillian into a introducing fit. Stevie recovers some stamina and then blasts Chavo with the Stevie Kick which busts Chavo open. Stevie pins Chavo for the three. We see a 1P Challange Completed sign come up informing us that the Perferom 3 finishers challange has been done. The ref raises Stevie's hand but he snatches it away and goes off celebrating by himself.
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/647/647901/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050906034327954.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/647/647901/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050906034328907.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/647/647901/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2006-20050906034328407.jpg
Disturbed316
09-06-2005, 05:42 PM
Nothing really special in Lita's video's but in Stevie's we got to see what Blood Level 1 looks like :cool:
Dark-Slicer Diago
09-06-2005, 05:43 PM
What I don't like about this year's roster:
Let's look at this week's raw and the matches that were on it.
(In bold are the wrestlers that are IN the game)
Kurt Angle vs. Eugene
Val Venis and Viscera vs. Romero and Antonio
Matt Hardy vs. Snitsky
Tyson Tomko vs. John Cena
Ashley vs. Torrie Wilson
Shelton Benjamin vs. Rob Conway
Cade and Murdoch vs. Rosey and The Hurricane
Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Masters
So therefore out of 20 performers of last night's Raw, only 10 of them are in the game.
Lance Cade(Garrison Cade) and Trevor Murdoch debuted so its clearly too late for them and Ashley is also far too late to be put in with the Roster being complete, stop complaining about why they not in, the roster was complete before the Diva Search even started
TerranRich
09-06-2005, 05:50 PM
What I don't like about this year's roster:
Let's look at this week's raw and the matches that were on it.
(In bold are the wrestlers that are IN the game)
Kurt Angle vs. Eugene
Val Venis and Viscera vs. Romero and Antonio
Matt Hardy vs. Snitsky
Tyson Tomko vs. John Cena
Ashley vs. Torrie Wilson
Shelton Benjamin vs. Rob Conway
Cade and Murdoch vs. Rosey and The Hurricane
Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Masters
So therefore out of 20 performers of last night's Raw, only 10 of them are in the game.
One more post about outdated rosters and I swear to God I'm going to fucking scream. Please tell me you understand why a lot of wrestlers aren't in the game. Please??? :(
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