The Official Smackdown vs Raw 2007 Thread

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I'm not on the fence really, I'm pretty much PS3 all the way. The only way that is going to change is if...

A. The copy protection shit actually happens. I'm planning on using Gamefly for most of my PS3 game needs. No way in hell I would buy every game I'd want to play.

B. Xbox gets more developers, mainly Konami, Spike, and Square. I love my RPGs, I want MGS3, and Spike is awesome for the Fire Pro games, and one on PS3 would be great. If I could get games the same games from those companies on Xbox though, I wouldn't really care, and I'd probably get the X box.

Outside of those two things happening, I don't think I'd consider getting a 360. My problem right now is that in October, my warranty on my PS2 expires. I could tell Best Buy it's broken, get 150 rebate in the mail, and use it towards buying a PS3 in November.... 450 bucks for the maxed out PS3 doesn't sound bad at all... Except I'm paranoid about how well it will work (ala PS2 with overheating.)

So yeah, who knows.

[Cuzziebro]

Scheduled to be the first release of the SmackDown series to appear on PlayStation 3, the next iteration of SVR will appear during the 2007 Holidays (as stated by THQ representatives when announcing the cancellation of the PS3 version of SmackDown vs. Raw 2007).

Note: WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2008 has not been formally announced.

http://ps3.ign.com/objects/844/844743.html

[DS]

I wonder if that means that the PS3 version will be a year late or if they will just continue the work on the PS3 version and make it 2008. Or if they even put out a 2008. I can't see THQ rewriting much of anything so I would say it would be best to take out what fans hated and then add what you wanted to the 2008. With another year in development they could surely make a great game. If they kept working on it that is.

[Kane Knight]

Yeah, makes you wonder whether or not we'll see another one for the PS3.

[Just John]

Gran Turismo, Smackdown, MGS, and above all else GTA are keeping me to PS3 but if I finally get it and one of them jumps ship, I will be so pissed off.

[Evil Vito]

Really, the only games I play consistently on the PS2 are sports games, SmackDown, and GTA.

And now all of those will be on the 360, along with the Halo series, Perfect Dark, and the 360 isn't as ridiculously priced.

<font color=goldenrod>I was in the exact boat as you are (I too only played SD, GTA, and sports regularly)...and have purchased a 360 earlier this week.

It's well worth it. Plus you of course have Halo 3 coming out next year, plus there are plenty of titles scheduled for 360 that look to impress. Downloadable demos are also the best thing ever. It's amazing how addicted I am to the Saint's Row demo.</font>

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

August 1, 2006 - The wrestling team at THQ was on tour late last week, dropping by the offices of publications all over the Bay Area to show off the latest build of WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2007. The trip wasn't without its juicy little details either, as Creative Manager Cory Ledesma offered a number of interesting tidbits regarding both the PS2 and Xbox 360 versions of the game. As an added bonus, the trip also gave us an opportunity to go hands-on with the product for the first time since we played it at E3 this past May.

If any of our readers attended the San Diego Comic-Con in late July, then our sample build would probably look familiar to them -- as it's the exact same one that was on display there. Nine different superstars were available for selection in all, and if you haven't been following our earlier coverage, those superstars are Booker T, Chris Benoit, Triple H, John Cena, Rey Mysterio, The Undertaker, Johnny Nitro, Shelton Benjamin, and Kurt Angle. Most of their ring walks and introductions have been included as well, but they are still rough, incomplete, and missing their Titan Trons and final audio.

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/722/722435/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2007-20060801052755129-000.jpg

But wrestlers aside, what specifically is different since the last time we've played? To start, the game is pre-alpha now as opposed to... well, whatever it was before (pre-omicron?). This build status means that a large number of SmackDown's final feature set is here and working in some fashion or another (including match types, match rules, crowd interactions, etc). We also learned that the PlayStation 2 version is a port of the Xbox 360 game, not the other way around. As a result, the PS2 iteration is running a little behind in terms of its completion percentage, but will be caught up entirely by the time the game ships in November.

We also learned that the differences between the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 2 discs will be minimal at best. Besides the obvious achievement system available to 360 owners (the specifics of which haven't been finalized), the only other real advantages for next-gen are visual and technical. The 360 version, for example, will benefit from the sweat system that keeps showing up in screenshots and videos, while the PS2 edition won't have it at all. Moreover, the PS2 version will only allow crowd battles and interactions during certain match types and circumstances, whereas the Xbox 360 version will allow for them for most match types (it's a horsepower/ performance thing). Content-wise, the games should be near-identical.

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/722/722435/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2007-20060801052753911-000.jpg

On the subject of crowd and environmental interactions, those are working a lot better now too. In the few stages we tried the feature out in, there were a lot more objects and hot spots than there were before (boxes, electrical thingies, etc). There are a higher number of weapons that you can steal from the crowd too -- including canes and signs. Sadly, the script to allow for the tearing of signs isn't in the pre-alpha build yet, but it is coming.

The most important addition to the gameplay since we last toyed with it, however, is that the analog grappling system works much more fluidly. Response times are quicker than they were before and transitions from the "grapple type" animation to the actual grapple itself is a lot less robotic. At most, you're looking at a one-match learning curve before you get the hang of it too, so don't expect to be on foreign ground for long. From what we can tell, the new system doesn't look like it's going to revolutionize wrestling games the way Fight Night did for boxing titles when it moved to analog control, but it does make SmackDown feel more interactive. Want better news? If you don't like the new system, you can decide to use the old one instead (thank you options menu!).

One area that could definitely use some work, though, is the counter system. Though the mechanic now allows for infinite reversals if you can find two players good enough o keep it going (positional reversals mind you, not move-specific ones), the timing is still twitchy and hard to figure out from wrestler to wrestler. THQ tells us that this is because it has fully been tuned yet and the HUD that will appear when a counter opportunity presents itself hasn't been implemented yet -- so we anticipate a positive change here.

For more on what WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2007 will be bringing to the table last year, be sure to follow the links to previous previews located below. Our media page has been updated with a small selection of screens and direct-feed movies too, so be sure to check those out as well. If that's still not enough wrestling for you, take heed -- we'll be back in a few weeks with the full roster reveal and the beginning of our annual SmackDown Countdown. Be there!

none of these vids have audio and I added there current themes to there entrances(of course they may not have) below

Kurt Angle's Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/722/722676/smackdown07ps2_0731_angle_wmvlow.wmv)

Rey Mysterio's Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/722/722676/smackdown07ps2_0731_wmvlow.wmv)

Rey Mysterio vs Kurt Angle part 1 (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/722/722676/smackdown07ps2_0731_1_wmvlow.wmv)

Rey Mysterio vs Kurt Angle part 2 (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/722/722676/smackdown07ps2_0731_2_wmvlow.wmv)

Rey Mysterio vs Kurt Angle part 3 (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/722/722676/smackdown07ps2_0731_3_wmvlow.wmv)

credit - Jeremy Dunham ps2.ign.com

Angle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KwO7_b_zrM)
Rey Rey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59Xe_Fl2MXw)

[Cuzziebro]

Okay so I was watching the new videos out at IGN and I had a thought. I know it is pointless but THQ are always going on about making the game as real as possible. Well why not add in camera men, i was watching the videos and when it changed camera views I do not know why but I expected to see a shot of he superstar with a dude carrying a camera behind him. I know it would be pointless work but they dont have to be specific they can just be generic models. Honestly though its not like the game needs it, i just think it would create more realism to a game that the producers are trying to make as real as possible.

[Just John]

I think camera men would kinda be TOO pointless, but mabye some of those ones on the big ass poles would be pretty good.

[Evil Vito]

If that's still not enough wrestling for you, take heed -- we'll be back in a few weeks with the full roster reveal and the beginning of our annual SmackDown Countdown. Be there!

<font color=goldenrod>WOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Of course, I'm gonna be away from the 18th till the 26th (which would be 3 weeks from now)...so knowing my luck that's when they'll reveal the roster. :(

Oh well....get to avoid the inevitable roster bitching and moaning if that happens</font> :cool:

[loopydate]

WTF?!?!? No Terkay and Burke?!?!?

[Kalyx triaD]

I like the cameramen idea. Two hovering around the ring, waiting to get whacked incidentally, would be cool.

[Disturbed316]

Time to get my notes in order.

[Kane Knight]

I like the cameramen idea. Two hovering around the ring, waiting to get whacked incidentally, would be cool.

Or their camera taken, and used as a weapon.

[loopydate]

Or have their cords gathered up and used to choke someone.

[Kane Knight]

Or have the Chyna sex tape playing on them to blind your opponent.

[Cuzziebro]

Or their camera taken, and used as a weapon.
Or have their cords gathered up and used to choke someone.
Or have the Chyna sex tape playing on them to blind your opponent.

See, just john, cameramen wouldn't be so pointless.

[Cuzziebro]

By the way a Video interview is up on IGN.com

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/820/820799/vids_1.html

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>YESSSSSSSSSSS Nitro has the paparazzis</font> :cool:

[Disturbed316]

If you watch the 360 videos on IGN, you can see Taker choking the life out of Triple H with the monitor wires from the announcing tables :cool:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Hmm, watching the interview again, apparently Rumbles are gonna be a lot easier this year. Just pick the guy up (assuming you can), and chuck 'em out</font>

[Cuzziebro]

<font color=goldenrod>Hmm, watching the interview again, apparently Rumbles are gonna be a lot easier this year. Just pick the guy up (assuming you can), and chuck 'em out</font>

Well I'm sure they will have the wieght restrictions for just picking a guy up and if yu noticed in the video interview holding a guy in a strong hold, like the choke slam position shown in the video, does deplete your stamina alot quicker.

[hb2k]

I do like the idea of 2 camera men hovering at ringside, with the slightest touch knocking them and and dropping their camera to use as a weapon. Good stuff.

[Kane Knight]

Well I'm sure they will have the wieght restrictions for just picking a guy up and if yu noticed in the video interview holding a guy in a strong hold, like the choke slam position shown in the video, does deplete your stamina alot quicker.

That's not much difference from this year's rumble.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod><b>LEGENDS POSSIBLY CONFIRMED</b>

Back before DOR2, EBGames listed every legend in the game LONG before they were officially confirmed...and were forced to take the list down and replace it with a generic Legends statement. Their list ended up being spot-on though.

Well, they did the same for SVR07. The list is gone now but here's who was on it:

Andre The Giant™

Bret Hart™

Dusty Rhodes™

Eddie Guerrero™

Hulk Hogan®

Mr. Perfect™

Rick Rude™

The Rock®

Roddy Piper™

Steve Austin®"

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Definately a believable list. I REALLY hope its legit because this list rules ass especially compared to last year's. Perfect and Rude >>>>>>>>>> 2 other Hogans

If this is in fact true, I'd also wager that Mick will be on the regular roster then...which is fine by me, I don't want them to leave him out</font>

[KingofOldSchool]

<font color=goldenrod><b>LEGENDS POSSIBLY CONFIRMED</b>

Back before DOR2, EBGames listed every legend in the game LONG before they were officially confirmed...and were forced to take the list down and replace it with a generic Legends statement. Their list ended up being spot-on though.

Well, they did the same for SVR07. The list is gone now but here's who was on it:

Andre The Giant™

Bret Hart™

Dusty Rhodes™

Eddie Guerrero™

Hulk Hogan®

Mr. Perfect™

Rick Rude™

The Rock®

Roddy Piper™

Steve Austin®"

---

Definately a believable list. I REALLY hope its legit because this list rules ass especially compared to last year's. Perfect and Rude >>>>>>>>>> 2 other Hogans

If this is in fact true, I'd also wager that Mick will be on the regular roster then...which is fine by me, I don't want them to leave him out</font>

:drool:

But they need Double A, Ted DiBiase, and Ricky Steamboat. :'(

[Just John]

Thing is though, there is only 3 fresh new unplayed characters on that list, the others are just remixes.

[Just John]

That's not much difference from this year's rumble.

Just more flexibility of how you eliminate, which is good.

[Evil Vito]

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200608/N06.0802.1701.09613.htm

A tag team from THQ stopped by the Game Informer offices recently to slam our heads into the turnbuckle and show us their latest wrestling title, WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2007, on Xbox 360. We got the full breakdown on the new control setup, found out what it’s like to wrestle in the crowd, and got some insight on what fans can expect from the story mode. Plus, check out over 20 minutes of direct feed videos of sweaty men tossing each other around.

For WWE 2007, developer Yukes and THQ have decided to focus all grappling maneuvers on the right analog stick. Players can flick the right stick in several directions to perform a quick grapple move that doesn’t take off a whole lot of damage, but can put the opponent in a more vulnerable position. For stronger grapples, players must hold the right bumper and flick the right stick. From here you can choose to perform one of several moves or click on the right stick to initiate special moves. Specials will throw up contextual button prompts onscreen where you can do things like rub an opponent’s face on the ropes by moving the right stick back and forth.



As far as the rest of the buttons go, A is the universal “action” button, X is for strikes, Y is for running, B regenerates stamina, the triggers handle strike and grapple reversals, the left bumper performs finishers, and the D-pad unleashes a variety of taunts. However, last year’s control scheme is included as well for those who can’t handle change.

WWE 2007 has over 20 “hotspots” in and around the ring for players to execute moves particular to the situation at hand. Aside from the obvious slams and strikes fans can imagine from the ropes, turnbuckles, and metal barriers, they will also be able to utilize places like the announcer table to deal out maximum damage. We were able to rip off the table top, grab the TV monitors inside, smash them on our unsuspecting victim, and then choke him with the cables hidden inside the table.

THQ also promises a new storyline with complete voiceover for all of the cutscenes. “We have a new format similar to the one we had in [WWE SmackDown!] Here Comes the Pain where you have three tiers you can go down: champion, challenger, and a general storyline tier. You actually jump between those and play multiple years and see multiple stories that way,” explained Cory Ledesma, creative manager at THQ

“A lot of feedback we got on the story in our season mode in the past is that, at the end in WrestleMania you win the championship and you never get the chance to defend the championship through the story. In this format, you can play multiple years, ten years, and you can go down that champion path and actually hold the belt and challenge people for it,” said Ledesma.



Another new dynamic lets wrestlers fight in the crowd. Observers will clear out as you toss your opponent over the barrier and slam him into the cement. Here you can grab weapons from the crowd like canes and crutches, break a TV with an enemy’s face, or set up a table and smash a guy through it. The pain disbursement options seem to have really branched out.

Finally, we’ll get to the part that everyone wants to know about. Who’s going to be in the game? We know for sure that John Cena, Rey Mysterio, Triple H, Kurt Angle, Shelton Benjamin, Chris Benoit, Booker T, Johnny Nitro, and the Undertaker will be making an appearance. And we’ve seen several other favorites that we’re not allowed to talk about yet. Sad, I know.

WWE SmackDown! Vs. RAW 2007 is looking like it’s taking wrestling to the next generation in style. But don’t take our word for it – check out our massive video collection to see for yourself.



-Bryan Vore

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<font color=goldenrod>Did I read that right? 10 year season? :eek:

Not sure if that means the season itself is 10 years or that you can get 10 years without repeating storylines, but still</font> :cool:

[Just John]

Taking pages from HCTP's book?


This game is gonna be worth getting, now all we can do is hope for a good roster.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I've heard whispers of some more roster confirmations next week.

Hope it's true cause I won't be here to see the final confirmation.</font>

[Just John]

God, it better be a good roster, I'm gonna check the current one...

[Just John]

Most of those guys I dont know how popular they are, who do you think'll make the roster?

[KingofOldSchool]

Well let's play the guessing game.

In:

John Cena
Rey Mysterio
Triple H
Kurt Angle
Shelton Benjamin
Chris Benoit
Booker T
Johnny Nitro
Undertaker

Should Be In:

HBK
Randy Orton
The Big Show
Kane
Rob Van Dam
Lashley
Edge
Carlito
Ric Flair

Maybe:

Batista (Since he was out for most of the year, but still a big enough name to include anyways)
The Great Khali (Might've debuted too late)
Mark Henry (He was a big part of Smackdown up until his injury last month)
JBL
The Spirit Squad (Will they go ahead and use 5 spots on them?)
Finlay
Chris Masters (Would his suspension hurt his spot on the game?)
Joey Mercury (See Masters)
Mr. Kennedy
Umaga (See Khali)
Matt Hardy

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Here's my now-revamped crack at the roster, assuming the legends list is legit. I'll go with 50 current guys (making it 60 overall with the legends)

RAW:
Big Show
Candice Michelle
Carlito
Chris Masters
Edge
Eugene
John Cena*
Johnny
Johnny Nitro*
Kane
Kenny
Lita
Melina
Mick Foley
Mickie James
Mikey
Mitch
Nicky
Randy Orton
Ric Flair
Rob Van Dam
Shawn Michaels
Shelton Benjamin*
Torrie Wilson
Triple H*
Trish Stratus
Umaga

As much as I love the Squad, the Raw side of things seems a bit bland...probably because the Squad may very well just be the same character times 5.

SmackDown:
Ashley
Batista
Boogeyman
Booker T*
Brian Kendrick
Chris Benoit*
Daivairi
Finlay
Great Khali
Gregory Helms
JBL
Joey Mercury
Ken Kennedy
Kurt Angle*
Lashley
Mark Henry
Matt Hardy
Paul Burchill
Psicosis
Rey Mysterio*
Super Crazy
Undertaker*
William Regal

I like this roster a LOT more than the Raw side. Khali's an iffy choice...as he debuted in mid-May, but I think they'll squeeze him in thanks to a WWE tipoff. If he's not in it'd be Tatanka or someone

And to explain the differences in roster size: I'm assuming that Ashley was originally meant to be on Raw, and Orton, Melina, and Nitro were originally meant to be on SD...so originally it was meant to be 25 per brand</font>

[KingofOldSchool]

Probably take out Eugene and Vis and add Victoria and Candice Michelle

[Just John]

Jesus, pretty generic..


They better have a good CAW mode this time around

[Evil Vito]

Probably take out Eugene and Vis and add Victoria and Candice Michelle

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, I was trying to decide between Candice and Vis as the last spot...just couldn't bring myself to choose Candice. With Candice, that'd be 7 divas, just as much as last year...so I'll add her in.

Eugene's probably a safe bet though...if only because he has all those specific moves.

Also, for the sake of realisticness, I'm cutting Vito and putting in a guy I completely forgot about - Captain Paul Burchill, who was pushed huge back around cutoff time</font>

[Just John]

Super crazy and that other mexicools guy?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Shit....how did I forgot about the Mexicools? :(

Alright, two final changes...Crazy and Psicosis in, Nunzio/Tatanka out. Smackdown roster is still miles better than the Raw one in this, mainly due to all the new guys</font>

[DS]

You really think Khali will be in? I'm having a hard time seeing it. I think if they went that recent then they might as well put in some ECW members.

It's going to be hard to make a good roster out of what they have now.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Eh, I think Khali will be in...he was around a full month before the ECW'ers

Though, an idea did surface: since they all take up the same amount of space anyway, may as well not include secondary attires and instead use those spots on a few extra guys (ECW)...Tommy, Sandman, and Sabu at least. If you want an even number throw Funk and Balls in as well. You would think they'd know the fans would expect to see ECW in.

Will it happen? Not likely, because Yukes has a fetish with including pointless backstage attires for the big names.</font> :(

[DS]

I could really care less about different attires. Only the ones that change the characters (Undertaker, Kane, Foley, and only Hollywood Hogan) should be the ones that stay in or at least get thought. Things like suits for HHH, Flair, etc are just pointless unless you are roleplaying your matches.

I guess Khali has been there longer then I thought but I still have my doubts about him making it.

[alvarado52]

Hey, has anything been said about having your own entrance music from the 360 HDD?

[DS]

Nothing has been announced but I would feel safe saying they would add it. Both RAW games had it and seeing as how they are creating the game for the 360 and porting it to the PS2 I think it would be a good call.

[KingofOldSchool]

I'd like to see alternate wrestling attires for certain wrestlers. Like for example, guys like Angle, HBK, Benoit, and RVD don't always wrestle in the same outfit. So why not include different outfits for them? Yes, I don't want Batista wearing a suit while wrestling a match, but have more than one of his tights available to wear during matches.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I don't think alternate attires are a big deal at all. A nice touch but if it were to come between giving a character a different attire or adding a whole new character into the game, I'd choose the latter (because different attired guys still take up the same amount of room as a whole new guy)

I'm hoping they still have CAW-trading online available (which would be really stupid if they didn't)...save tons of time and just download the CAWs from the top makers :cool:

It'd be cool if it went the Attitude route and you can make as many CAWs as you have space on your hard drive. You can easily update the entire roster and barely lose any space.</font>

[Just John]

I think alternate attires should be a shortcut to having extra legends, like HBKs WM X ladder match attire, RVDs ECW attire, Kanes masked attire, and Biker undertaker attire.

[Kane Knight]

I think they should just go back to making wrestlers out of CAW parts. They have the technology to make it look as good as the renders, and thus wouldn't have to have the space for a fully rendered superstar for each outfit.

[Just John]

Yeah, I want my CAWs to make people say "How do you unlock ____?" Now its just "What the fuck is that?"

[Kane Knight]

Day of Reckoning, the "inferior" system, made CAWs that were easier to make and looked more like the "regular" superstars. I don't see why they can't make the Superstars look better and the interface simpler, and I sure as fuck don't see why they can't just make wrestlers look that good, since you can clearly do it with CAWs (And imagine how good they could look when people with no skill can make a decent CAW).

[Kalyx triaD]

I've had matches with my CAW's in DoR2 against real guys and people watching would say, "Who's the new guy?" or "Where'd he come from?"

A Smackdown! CAW looks like a plastic faggot with high cheek bones. No matter how you mess with the face he'll look like the next CAW. His body structure just doesn't seem convincing...

God help you if you want a baggy shirt or a cool jacket.

[Kane Knight]

Some types of CAWs can be made convincingly with a lot of work. It's a chore on Smackdown, and actually kinda fun on DoR (On 2, it became a chore, but...)

[DS]

We should probably send them hate mail so we can get CAWs to look more real without having to put a lot of time into it.

[Kane Knight]

...That requires initiative...


...And effort...

[Kane Knight]

Naw, just kidding. Where would such mail be sent?

[Kalyx triaD]

We should probably send them hate mail so we can get CAWs to look more real without having to put a lot of time into it.

Sure; when I talk about hate mail I'm taking it overboard.

:shifty:

[Kane Knight]

Nobody loves you, Kalyx. If you were on fire, I'd piss on you, but only because I have a fetish for urinating on flamers.

[KingofOldSchool]

Other minor things that I would like to see done differently.

Have special guest refs actually wear a ref's shirt and if the special guest ref does something to one of the wrestlers (hit them with a chair, finisher, etc) then the other wrestler won't just stand there like a goof. Have them actually take advantage of the situation.

Give the option of how you want the wrestlers to carry the belts to the ring. It wouldn't be the hard, at wrestler select they have the option of (if they are a title holder) either carrying it over their shoulder or wearing it around their waist. I'm tired of seeing guys like The Big Show wearing a title around his waist.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

You know what is an awesome feature, but I don't know if it would work for the series.

In the game "Wrestle Kingdom" there is a spirit bar. Which can basically be used to A. Make regular moves stronger. B. No sell moves/get up off the ground immediately, C Boost your momentum, and D. Make your opponent stand up dizzy.

I dunno, maybe it's me, but in the game I love taking a half nelson suplex from Kobashi, popping up before he does, and nailing him with a spear as he turns around.

[Disturbed316]

God I really hope they have sorted out the ladder matches. Had one with RVD last night, match starts, we both go outside for the ladder, he hits me with it and goes onto win all within 15 seconds. I was very mad.

[Kane Knight]

God I really hope they have sorted out the ladder matches. Had one with RVD last night, match starts, we both go outside for the ladder, he hits me with it and goes onto win all within 15 seconds. I was very mad.

It's even better when the match has gone on 15 minutes, the guy's all red, you hit not one but TWO finishers, and get up the ladder, only to be yanked down, and though you're still relatively fresh, you can't get up to stop the crippled guy from getting the title.

[Disturbed316]

That annoys me too, but not as much as the above one. I only just won the title aswell, which bugged me.

[El Fangel]

Hey People
Got a chance tp post again.

That ladder match problem I had last night, I went to use a houston hangover, missed landed outside the ring, and my opponent scampered up the ladder and took my hardcore title :@

also, the rosters for this game look good, peoples ideas on here about the rosters seem entirely plausible.
The legends list looks too normal though as it is little different then before, and thank god only one hogan.

But me buying the game depends on a few things, such as:

Create-an-Emtrance/better selection of original entrances.
Better CAW maker.
able to put own music/better selection of music.
more weapons for a hardcore match.
Good season mode.

and before I leave I want to ask a simple question about SvR2006 look at Batista, then at the max stats for each weight class, and tell me what weight class he would fit in.

[The Mackem]

It's even better when the match has gone on 15 minutes, the guy's all red, you hit not one but TWO finishers, and get up the ladder, only to be yanked down, and though you're still relatively fresh, you can't get up to stop the crippled guy from getting the title.

The same thing happened to me the other day. I was extremely annoyed and shouted many unpleasantries at the TV which didn't have anything to say in it's defence.

[Kane Knight]

It knows what it did.

[Evil Vito]

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/724/724177p1.html

<font color=goldenrod>No countdown till September (later than usual). Maybe this means they'll do 2 a day or something.</font>

[El Fangel]

Give the option of how you want the wrestlers to carry the belts to the ring. It wouldn't be the hard, at wrestler select they have the option of (if they are a title holder) either carrying it over their shoulder or wearing it around their waist. I'm tired of seeing guys like The Big Show wearing a title around his waist.

I would in fact like this very much, as the caw I made of myself, the Edge like jacket I wear "phases" out through the title when it's around my waist.I would like the option of around waist, over right shoulder, over left shoulder, around neck ( like Bubba Ray and Taker did at some point . And one thing that pisses me off the most about SvR2006 is that when you are in a match for a title say the IC title, and you are the reigning Hardcore Champion you don't bring you title to the ring, and the only way to do so is put it on the line. for example a one-on-one match against the champ winner takes all. And also that unless you are defending your tag title in a championship match you don't wear it to the ring.And another thing is if you have two titles, for example myself just the other night unified the world titles in a elimination chamber, but I can only wear ONE to the ring, and I have to be defending it to do so.
Imagine how cool it would look to have one over each shoulder, or one around waist and one on shoulder.

[El Fangel]

The same thing happened to me the other day. I was extremely annoyed and shouted many unpleasantries at the TV which didn't have anything to say in it's defence.

I did this once, I kid you not, the t.v broke, and my Playstation froze, causing it not to be able to play PS2 discs, it could play Audio,DVD, and PS1 fine, I had to send it away to be fixed.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Pretty sure this hasn't been posted yet:

http://www.ebgames.com/common/images/lbox/200171brp.jpg

Much better than last year's boxart at least</font>

[KingofOldSchool]

Hey maybe Edge can bitch about the cover.

[Kalyx triaD]

Decent cover.

[D Mac]

Hey maybe Edge can bitch about the cover.
:rofl:

[Disturbed316]

Get Torrie off the cover and it wont be so bad.

[Evil Vito]

Get Torrie off the cover and it wont be so bad.

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, pretty sure she was on some other cover as well

Prolly just there for if a horny teen is in a game shot, "OMG is that a half naked chick? *buys game*"

Anyways, I just went back to last year's thread and noticed that this time last year...we were on like page 9</font> :o

[Disturbed316]

Yeah, but about 10 pages have been debates about which is better, 360 or PS3.

[McDoogle]

PS3 naturally.

[Cuzziebro]

I agree with McDoogle.

[DS]

11 pages.

[D Mac]

PS3 naturally.

Until the PS3 actually comes out and proves it, that is just a matter of opinion.

[D Mac]

Get Torrie off the cover and it wont be so bad.

They should have put Mickie on there. :heart:

[Disturbed316]

They should have put Mickie on there. :heart:

Yeah, I :heart: Mickie

[Cuzziebro]

Shame she lost her title to Lita.
(RAW Spoiler -> Highlight to Read)

[KingofOldSchool]

Yeah, I :heart: Mickie

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Hahahaha the IGN boards are ridiculous

Like every thread is the same. "When's the countdown starting?" "IDK GET A LIFE YOU MOR0N!!!!"

:lol:

One person made a good point though. It's been said the countdown will be begin in September. The prediction is that Jeremy will reveal the full roster on September 1st (Friday), and then the countdown will begin Monday the 4th</font>

[Drakul]

I was told this was canceled for Ps3 and I think it is. According to the official site it's only coming out for Ps2, PsP and Xbox360.
http://www.svr2007.com/

[Kane Knight]

That's already been said.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

there will be a small update some time tomorrow

proof http://boards.ign.com/wwe_smackdown/b6546/124716677/p1/?48

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Nice. :cool:

Pretty sure he did this last year and it ended up being some PSP shit, but ah well. Good find</font>

[owenbrown]

I like the cameramen idea. Two hovering around the ring, waiting to get whacked incidentally, would be cool.

If the cameramen idea is good, why not make it where you can attack the announcing team as well?

[Kalyx triaD]

Doesn't happen enough on TV for it to be a good addition. Atleast with the cameramen there could be a 'Collision Replay' type feature that replays the bump from his camera's perspective.

[loopydate]

I think the announcer thing could be fun, but I would only have it be something that happens in story mode. Maybe give you the option after a heel turn to beat up JR for his "DAMN HIM TO HELL! WHY, DAMMIT?!?"

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wow, that WAS a small update

http://boards.ign.com/wwe_smackdown/b6546/124770303/p1/

Basically, its the boxart and the fact that Orton, Batista, and Torrie are now 100% confirmed</font>

[Disturbed316]

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/725/725945/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2007-20060816005404703.jpg

ROID-A-MANIA

[Kane Knight]

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/725/725945/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2007-20060816005404703.jpg

ROID-A-MANIA

WHATCHO GONNA DO...WHEN A FLESH EATING VIRUS RUNS WILD IN YOU!!!!!

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

the Batista is for ps2 and here he is on 360 along with Randy Orton

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/725/725950/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2007-20060816010345419.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/725/725950/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2007-20060816010344325.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Crowd signs..?

[El Fangel]

Wow, they look amazing, the box art is good with the exception of Cena, Torrie and who i believe is Rey.and Kalyx is right where is my shenanigans?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>A year ago, I'd probably be thinking that that Batista PS2 pic looks ridiculous...but Idk, maybe it's because I've been focusing on the 360 images, it doesnt look like the PS2 graphics have improved from last year (mainly because last years were about as good as you can get I guess)

But they look like horseshit when you see the 360 ones. Its odd.

----

Anyways, I'd expect the final pre-countdown update to be within the next two weeks.</font>

[Disturbed316]

It's something to do with those viens on his chest that makes it seem so odd when compared to the 360 ones.

If only the 360 had more of the games I like on there *sigh*

[alvarado52]

So, do you guys think on the 360 the online play will be improved? Because seriously, the lag on 06 was too much, you couldnt even really play the thing online. Will Live help it out?

[Skippord]

Crowd signs..?
They all got confiscated

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

http://ngamerz.com/upload/preview/P000552/01.jpg
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http://ngamerz.com/upload/preview/P000552/21.jpg

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The menus look pretty slick.

Wish they would have gone into Battle Royal mode though - let us know if we can have more than 6 in the ring now. Same with elimination tag matches.

Also, I'm guessing this can officially mean ECW isn't in (as Angle is from Smackdown)</font>

[El Fangel]

It looks like you can now break up a submission mid-way as to not lose stamina, seems like a cool Idea, because cena's underhook for some reason would drain all when used.

[Kane Knight]

It looks like you can now break up a submission mid-way as to not lose stamina, seems like a cool Idea, because cena's underhook for some reason would drain all when used.

You already could on "A" type (I think it's A, the minigame like a field goal, not the button mashing one). Just hit Square.,

[Just John]

Look at Rey with the belt, what do you think of the size of it? (The belt not Rey)

[Disturbed316]

Wow the menus look good, and the WHC looks pretty good too. Of course thats the 360 version though, so they could still look pretty crappy on the PS2 version.

<font color=goldenrod>

Wish they would have gone into Battle Royal mode though - let us know if we can have more than 6 in the ring now. Same with elimination tag matches.</font>

Maybe on the 360, but I doubt it on the PS2.

[Kane Knight]

Do the wrestlers look a bit...Wider than they should be to anyone?

Minor quibble, as it's probably just the format of the screenshots, but it's what my eyes were first drawn to.

[El Fangel]

You already could on "A" type (I think it's A, the minigame like a field goal, not the button mashing one). Just hit Square.,

You have to be shitting me

Yeah I agree KK they do look abit wide, Im almost certain its because of the pictures, unless Rey has been eating alot of deep-fried chicken.

But Im amazed at the graphics, disgusted by the worms under batista's skin.
belt looks good hopefully you can carry more then one, with the option of where.
Sweaty wrestlers have never looked this good.

[DS]

It's just the way the screens were stretched. I'm not too impressed by either systems graphics, in terms of an upgrade. The PS2 looks nearly identical, which isn't bad but it's like they've done as much as they can, and the 360 looks like they followed the basketball games and just added sweat. They look nice but nothing considerably better than last years.

The one thing that breaks realism for me the most is the fact that every wrestler has noticeable abs and all over beefed up muscles. I bet if Mark Henry didn't have an outfit that covered his stomach he would have a six pack.

[El Fangel]

The one thing that breaks realism for me the most is the fact that every wrestler has noticeable abs and all over beefed up muscles. I bet if Mark Henry didn't have an outfit that covered his stomach he would have a six pack.

Rolling On Floor Laughing My Fucking Ass Off

[Dorkchop]

I just hate the way the Smackdown games feel, compared to the N64 games. I dont' feel like I'm wrestling as the Superstar, or that I'm actually inflicting damage on my oponent.

I don't hate the games, I just wish they started the actual wrestling in the game completely over. Plus the moves never look really nice.

I'm not bashing this game, it's gonna be great. It just seems to me that every new Smackdown game is he exact same as the previous, just with a new feature, improved graphics, and a new roster.

Smackdown: Shut Your Mouth is still my favorite on in the series.

I think I might hold out getting this for the PS2, and maybe wait and see if I get an Xbox 360 or PS3. Hey, is it gonna be out for PS3. I think I read that it's not anymore. Xbox 360 has been looking and sounding pretty sweet over the past few months. I'm considering picking it up.

[El Fangel]

I have to agree it stays mostly the same, but it gets a little better everytime, so in 20 years time we will have nothing to bitch about besides the fact that Hogan is still in the game on the active roster.

And I know what you mean by not actually getting the feel, if you want that play Day Of Reckoning.

[Kane Knight]

DoR could have been the best game of its generation. The CAW was close to perfection. We need a next gen DoR.

[El Fangel]

DoR IS the best game of its generation. The CAW was close to perfection. We need a next gen DoR.

First of all congrats on 90k

second see above

[Kane Knight]

Yes...I know...I was agreeing.

[El Fangel]

what you said is "could have been the best", there was no certainty there.
Or at least none I could tell.

[Dorkchop]

DoR could have been the best game of its generation. The CAW was close to perfection. We need a next gen DoR.

I don't have a Gamecube (I wish I had gotten one), but my girlfriend and her sister got a palce together, and they have a Gamecube so I can play it now. I've heard really good things about it. Maybe I'll pick it up soon.

Plus I'm getting a Wii when it comes out, so I can play it on that too.

Thanks a lot.

[El Fangel]

Get two controllers if you can, and use one for Dor only, as it tends to kill your A button from repeated mashing.

[Kane Knight]

what you said is "could have been the best", there was no certainty there.
Or at least none I could tell.

Because it has the best gameplay of any generation, but the game was neutered by shitty story mode and lack of gameplay features. It's unfortunate, but true.

[El Fangel]

I suppose, but the way the game flowed in the match, and the way you could break up moves, and actually make double team moves, made the game seem so great for me. Also as much as I dislike it, the longer the match goes on the more tired your thumb gets from hitting the A button, and sort of gives an illusion of how tired your character is getting.

Story mode may have been a little bad, but I found the way you work yourself up the ladder, instead of showing up and being involved in the storyline of the year, alot better.

Also what do you mean by gameplay features? Matches, Wrestlers?

[Kane Knight]

My thumbs never really got tired. I used to do Battle Royals with my buddies without issue. The only real downside is that the roster was limited, and to make a good CAW, you had to run through a retarded story mode (The extra points was good for female wrestlers and CAWs you didn't want to be too tough, but come on).

The multiple finishers (meaning you could make up a few, too, the gameplay, etc., was great, but they needed to reduce the ease with which holds would be broken and people would be knocked down. They went down with a slight brush, which made no sense. I wanted to a 6 wrestlers onscreen, but that would be chaos with the way the moves work. I strike you, you fall down, you take out everyone near you. This made handicap matches incredibly fucking cheap, and easy to win. Which, I suppose, is better than Smackdown, where you can wail on the guys all you want, but they keep getting immediately back up, preventing you from isolating.

There were a lot of little things that hurt the series though, and took away from "best game ever" status.

[Kane Knight]

Gameplay features means, but is not limited to:


Lacking Story Mode, that could only be operated once per CAW and only by CAWs, not to mention only male CAWs (Which isn't that bad, since 80 OVR should be enough for most of the chicks)
Lacking Roster, 10 smaller than comparable Smackdown games. That's a lot, when you consider it means less than 15 per show.
Limited modes, which shouldn't even be an issue in modern game releases. We need more match types.
CAW editing, while leaps and bounds better than Smackdown, severely limited your choices for attire and layering, which again, should never be an issue within modern systems. CAWs are out-of-the-box awesome, but if you want to get more advanced appearances, it can be a royal pain in the arse.
Hit detection, as I mentioned before. I like being able to break up any move, but it's TOO easy.

[El Fangel]

It has its flaws but none too severe to make it a less then 9.0 in my opinion, although the knock-out touching is bit bad, and yes 6 people is havoc, but it is still the best game IMO

[Funky Fly]

Just a quick note on the hit detection for holds and pins:

DoR went with the WCW vs nWo: World Tour style (any attack on the guy and the pin/submission is broken up). They should have gone with the WCW/nWo: Revenge/WM 2000/No Mercy style (you have to be facing the pinner, not the pinee to specifically break up a pin).

[El Fangel]

I agree it probabily would have made it alot better. And not make your real life tag partner despise you because you accidentaly broke up a few pins and finishers :S

[Kane Knight]

Not to mention save you getting a few ref-stunners for accidentally hitting the ref.

[Disturbed316]

http://www.nlgaming.com/games/3798/xbox360/nlg-12.jpg
http://www.nlgaming.com/games/3798/xbox360/nlg-13.jpg
http://www.nlgaming.com/games/3798/xbox360/nlg-36.jpg
http://www.nlgaming.com/games/3798/xbox360/nlg-40.jpg
http://www.nlgaming.com/games/3798/xbox360/nlg-5.jpg

Page stretch. Also, look in the background of Benjamin's entrance pic to see a possible conformation of a legend.

[Disturbed316]

http://cache.gameinformer.com/downloads/downloads2014/movies/2006/svr2k7/svr-3.wmv - Angle's entrance with music, pyro and crowd noise.

http://cache.gameinformer.com/downloads/downloads2014/movies/2006/svr2k7/svr-4.wmv - Triple H's entrance with music and crowd noise

http://cache.gameinformer.com/downloads/downloads2014/movies/2006/svr2k7/svr-5.wmv - Triple H vs Angle part 1

http://cache.gameinformer.com/downloads/downloads2014/movies/2006/svr2k7/svr-6.wmv - Triple H vs Angle part 2

http://cache.gameinformer.com/downloads/downloads2014/movies/2006/svr2k7/svr-7.wmv - Triple H vs Angle part 3

http://cache.gameinformer.com/downloads/downloads2014/movies/2006/svr2k7/svr-8.wmv - The rematch part 1

http://cache.gameinformer.com/downloads/downloads2014/movies/2006/svr2k7/svr-9.wmv - The rematch part 2

[DS]

It looks good but the only way I knew which version I was watching was when I saw the "Press B to regain stamina". They need to invest more into their sound department. Horrible sound effects.

[El Fangel]

They had better put him in the game this time, or Im going to be more pissed then last time. also the entrance shot looks beautiful.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

thanks for the pic Disturbed, they look great

[Funky Fly]

The intro's looking good.

[Cuzziebro]

They had better put him in the game this time, or Im going to be more pissed then last time. also the entrance shot looks beautiful.

Sorry I think I missed something, who are you talking about?

[Just John]

So...Jake The Snake is possibly involved

[Dorkchop]

It looks good but the only way I knew which version I was watching was when I saw the "Press B to regain stamina". They need to invest more into their sound department. Horrible sound effects.

I don't like most of the sound effects in the Smackdown games. They also don't have that many different ones too.

[El Fangel]

Jake Roberts, because IMO he wasn't in the game, he was in the PSP version. Which Im guessing said unlock him in Smackdown versus Raw 2006 for PS2, to be able to buy him.

[alvarado52]

So who is gonna get this on what system? Im gonna get it for 360 because im hoping running it through Live will avoide lag.
I wish they would make it cross platform that way we could set up a TPWW Fed and wrestle through it.

...and on a side not, a question jus popped it my head, what finisher do you guys use for yourself as CAW? My finisher is the Indian Deathlock and STO. Always has been =)

[Blitz]

Gotta get it for PS2, since I don't have 360.

As for CAW finishers, I'll have to see what new moves get added, but I used the Gory Bomb and Burning Hammer in 06.

[Skippord]

3 Handled Credenza and Shining Wizard 03

[Kane Knight]

So who is gonna get this on what system? Im gonna get it for 360 because im hoping running it through Live will avoide lag.
I wish they would make it cross platform that way we could set up a TPWW Fed and wrestle through it.

...and on a side not, a question jus popped it my head, what finisher do you guys use for yourself as CAW? My finisher is the Indian Deathlock and STO. Always has been =)

Right now, I'm Air Ride Siren+Tazzplex. I used to favor the Rock Bottom and a Sharpshooter.

[alvarado52]

for some reason, i could not get the Indian Deathlock to actually be my finisher in 06, so i just had to use it when the time was right. This i was not pleased about.

[D Mac]

alvarado I'm getting it for 360 too so I'll take you on LIVE. :mad:

[Disturbed316]

I'm getting a 360 this week, so I will get it for that.

Also, I use the F5 and Five Star Frog Splash as my finisher, although sometimes I swap the F5 for a Diamond Cutter when I go through my DDP mark out week every month or so.

[D Mac]

Ok Disturbed you shall also be on my HIT LIST.

[El Fangel]

I think I will have to get it for PS2, Since I don't have a budget that a PS3 or Xbox 360 Fits into. My Finishers are what I have named
Eradication (Powerbomb 10) and High-Impact (Orange Crush Pin)

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

I'll be getting it for both and my finishers are Dark Buster(Pedigree) and Dark Bomb(Tower-Hacker Bomb)

[Disturbed316]

Ok Disturbed you shall also be on my HIT LIST.

Ok :rant:

[alvarado52]

right on. When the games comes out, we'll post whos on what system and GIT'R DUN!

[El Fangel]

Here's a question who thinks this game will be little different from Svr 2006, I don't know how or why, but I get the feeling Im going to be in for a disapointment. I hope im wrong

[Disturbed316]

I think it's gonna take a little while to get used to the revised controls. I think maybe PS2 owners might feel let down, as it wont be such a huge change from 2006.

[Skippord]

Now I have Spear #4 and Vertebreaker

[Disturbed316]

Whoop got my 360 today, so I'll be waiting for you Diesel Mac :rant:

[Kalyx triaD]

When I get Live back I'm gonna beat all of your asses and claim the TPWW Online Championship (prototype title).

I should have that shit sorted out by Fall (I know it's a long wait Alva).

[D Mac]

If you create a wrestler with custom music, for example, The Sandman with Enter Sandman, and take him online with 360 I wonder if your opponent will be able to hear your custom enterance music. That would be cool.

[alvarado52]

When I get Live back I'm gonna beat all of your asses and claim the TPWW Online Championship (prototype title).

I should have that shit sorted out by Fall (I know it's a long wait Alva).

motherfucka ive been waiting for you to 'get Live back' for months on end, even BEFORE the Crisis.

[alvarado52]

If you create a wrestler with custom music, for example, The Sandman with Enter Sandman, and take him online with 360 I wonder if your opponent will be able to hear your custom enterance music. That would be cool.


i was wondering that too. I hope so, i dont see why it couldnt be streamed or DL'd from the HDD. Logically, they take your CAW from the HDD, and anything you put on your 360 is converted into WMA format which streams pretty quickly.

heres hoping.

[Crippla]

Wheres the motherfucking CAW page that TNA ROCKS keeps advertising?

[Kane Knight]

Here's a question who thinks this game will be little different from Svr 2006, I don't know how or why, but I get the feeling Im going to be in for a disapointment. I hope im wrong

They changed the controls. That means they didn't really do much else, and are hoping this will mask the problem.

[Xero]

I'm not sure if this has been posted, but I just read in the September (I think, I don't have it right now, came in the mail yesterday) edition of Game Informer that the PS3 version has been canceled and they'll be putting out the first PS3 game in late 07, which will be the 08 edition.

[Kane Knight]

IT's been mentioned several times, actually.

[Xero]

Haven't been reading the thread and wasn't about to go through 10+ pages, so sorry about that...

[Disturbed316]

OMG OLD! :roll:

[Xero]

How old?

[Disturbed316]

10+ pages old :roll:

[Crippla]

20+ pages old.

[Disturbed316]

Nah it was cancelled around late July time.

[Crippla]

O I didn't know. I was on a leave of absence during that time.

[Xero]

Nah it was cancelled around late July time.
That's what I get for never following these threads... I hear about it almost two months later.

[Disturbed316]

Yeah, if you miss more than two pages, your fucked when it comes to info.

[Kane Knight]

Haven't been reading the thread and wasn't about to go through 10+ pages, so sorry about that...

Hence the whole "not tearing into you" thing I did by merely affirming that it had been posted. Though Disturbed looks like he's gonna have a seizure. :shifty:

On the other hand, there is the search this thread tool, and the fact the news has been around for several weeks at this point...

...So I suppose I could whip out some flame if that's what you really want...;)

[Disturbed316]

Hi, I'm Kane Knight. I spam up threads making them a million and two pages longer than they should be with usless comments.

Thankfully, there is a tool which can block me and my posts out, making them look like people are discussing things like normal people.

:shifty:

[Kane Knight]

What

[Kane Knight]

Are

[Kane Knight]

You

[Crippla]

Who?

[Kane Knight]

Trying

[Kane Knight]

To

[Kane Knight]

Say?

[Xero]

lol, you who...

[Disturbed316]

From IGN.com (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/728/728245p1.html)

SmackDown vs. Raw 2007: Season Sneak Peek
We take a quick look at the new components that make this year's story mode tick.
by Jeremy Dunham

August 25, 2006 - Though we haven't had the chance to play through the season mode of WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2007 just yet, THQ has hooked us up with some interesting details regarding this year's story segment. Still the meat of the single-player game, the 2007 edition of Season Mode looks to add a number of new tweaks to improve over last year's version -- specifically in regards to the storylines themselves.

"Choice" is what THQ wants to emphasize this year. Regardless of a superstar's standing (general, contender, or champion), their list of available options before a match will be much more varied than they were before. Players are no longer locked into just the SmackDown or Raw brand this time either, and because of that, rosters on both shows will continue to change as the season moves on. In fact, players are really going to have their work cut out for them, as they'll participate in both the Raw and SmackDown shows. Of course, just like last year, users can continue to play as many seasons as they want back-to-back-to-back.

To help move the storylines along (besides the cutscenes), THQ has also implemented an all-new messaging system this season. As soon as a superstar enters the locker room, they'll have the option to view their email folder and check out notes from the General Manager and other superstars. Additionally, players can also listen to audio-powered voicemails that can include anything from your basic "Hello" to plot-pushing comments or good old-fashioned trash talk.

Another new feature this year is the inclusion of WWE.com and WWE Magazine articles. What's interesting about this is, that during your off-time, you can log right into a replica WWE.com website and do some shopping. It's here that you'll be able to purchase legends to wrestle with, championship belt types, and all-new costumes. Players can also read up on superstar bios if they want to research an opponent or check out a quickie story that retells something that just happened in the game (written to match the real-life WWE articles). Gamers can also pick up WWE magazines from their desk to learn supplementary details about their current storylines.

Unfortunately, and as mentioned earlier, we haven't had a firsthand opportunity to check these new features out for ourselves yet. How these new additions make the game better (or worse) compared to last year is still the big question mark -- as are whatever other differences there might be compared to 2006. Luckily, we should have a more detailed update on these facets sometime in the near future.

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/728/728245/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2007-20060825031439159-000.jpg
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[Disturbed316]

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[Dark-Slicer Diago]

thanks for the info Disturbed

[D Mac]

Season mode sounds great so far.

[Kane Knight]

lol, you who...

Thanks, I'd love some.

[KingofOldSchool]

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I sure hope they get that fixed.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Season sounds tremendous so far.

I'd think there's a roster update next week sometime...possibly even the full thing</font>

[Xero]

Batista has a VERY squishy man-boob.

[ddpBANG]

I sure hope they get that fixed.
Triple H's square ass or his knee going through Batista's chest?

[Kane Knight]

Actually, Triple H broke out that move on Raw. Poor Shelton...:nono:

[Cuzziebro]

You can really see the huge difference between the two different genrations of consoles aye?
It's amazing.

[El Fangel]

At least season mode looks cool.

[DS]

Are you going to keep posting your signature until someone tells you they see your "subliminal" message? Because if that's the case then I've seen it.

[PorkSoda]

So you can listen to voice mail from other superstars now?

I'd love to be Kurt Angle and listen to a voicemail from The Undertaker saying "Hello." "Hey Kurt, letttttts go out for piiiiiiiza later on toooniiiiiight. Reeeeest. In. Pieeeeeeeeeeeeece urrrrrrrghhhhh"

Or if you get to be Stone Cold as a legend and JR is on your voicemail...."STONE COLD! STONE COLD! STONE COLD!" :drool:

[Kalyx triaD]

This "Voice Mail" crap all these 'sports' games are adding is making me sick. It'a a waste of disk space and I don't believe for a second any professional would give out his number that much.

PS:
I played Madden 07 on 360 yesterday. Shocking impressions from a 'pissed off @ post-2003 EA' gamer in the official thread.

[Cuzziebro]

Okay well I found some new roster updates, not sure if this site is reliable (probably isn't) but here's what they say;

This is just a taste of our coverage to come.... Here are some new confirmed additions to the WWE Smackdown vs RAW 2007 Roster....

Mr Kennedy
The Boogeyman
Kane
Bobby Lashley
Mickie james
Mr Perfect
Dusty Rhodes

Keep your eyes locked here on GamingRing.com as there is more coverage to come....

http://gamingring.com/

[Drakul]

Are you going to keep posting your signature until someone tells you they see your "subliminal" message? Because if that's the case then I've seen it.
What is it? :?:

[Destor]

"Guess not, message me if you read this"

Its in black font

[Disturbed316]

Whoooo Mr Perfect :heart:

Gamingring's coverage should start soon, should be great.

[Cuzziebro]

More Updates on Roster!
Matt Hardy
Shawn Michaels
Big Show
Chavo Guererro
Ric Flair

And two more legends...
Bret Hart
Eddie Guererro

Stayed tuned! More coverage to come......

http://gamingring.com/

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

great news cuzzie, thanks

[CSL]

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<font color=white>That shit with the belt is still in there. What's it made of, fuckin' concrete?</font>

[CSL]

Whoooo Mr Perfect :heart:

Gamingring's coverage should start soon, should be great.

<font color=white>If Perfect is in, that officially makes me more excited about this game than any other Smackdown game before.

And he'd better not be PSP unlockable only either...</font>

[D Mac]

So I wonder if in Mr. Kennedy's enterance he comes down and does the whole thing, introducing himself "I hail from Green Bay Wisconsin!" I weigh..."

"MRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!....."

You know the rest.








































































































MAC!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Willing to bet at least one legend is made PSP unlockable/available for purchase with Microsoft Points

...if its Perfect...</font> :mad:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Current roster (I've added in even newer guys from update)

Batista
Big Show
Bobby Lashley
Boogeyman
Booker T
Carlito
Chavo Guerrero
Chris Benoit
Edge
J.B. Layfield
John Cena
Johnny Nitro
Kane
Ken Kennedy
Kurt Angle
Mark Henry
Matt Hardy
Randy Orton
Rey Mysterio
Ric Flair
Shawn Michaels
Shelton Benjamin
Triple H
Undertaker
William Regal


Divas
Mickie James
Stacy Keibler
Torrie Wilson


Legends
Bret Hart
Dusty Rhodes
Eddie Guerrero
Mankind
Mr. Perfect

------

Guess that Legends list posted earlier ended up being partly incorrect as Mankind wasn't on it. Hopefully he won't be taking up Rude's spot or something and both will be in</font>

[D Mac]

I see JBL on there so I guess we get Micheal Cole and Tazz on commentary for SD. :(

JBL on commentary would be gold.

[Disturbed316]

OMG HBK IS ON THE ROSTER!

Didn't see that one coming :roll:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, if you ask me the only real surprise thus far has been Chavo...I didn't think he had a chance in hell at making it in.

Also surprised about Stacy...wasn't even on TV around WM time. I really hope they don't waste more spots than last year on talentless sluts.</font>

[Disturbed316]

It says Gamingring's coverage is starting this week, I'm guessing Friday.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Every suppossedly "confirmed" roster you've seen so far is... how should I say... bulls**t.

We'll have the real roster next week -- All of 'em (minus the legends, we're holding those for later but all of those lists are false too).

Check back for it then. Until then, trust me -- they're ALL false

http://boards.ign.com/wwe_smackdown/b6546/125902395/p1/?61

[El Fangel]

I was just bored so I made that subliminal thing, And nobody got it so I stopped.

[Kane Knight]

So I wonder if in Mr. Kennedy's enterance he comes down and does the whole thing, introducing himself "I hail from Green Bay Wisconsin!" I weigh..."

"MRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!....."

You know the rest.





MAC!

They probably will have it, but only in story mode or some shit.

[Disturbed316]

KENNEDY

[Kane Knight]

KENNE...ALLEYALEYAAAA

[Disturbed316]

Kenne....SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM

[KingofOldSchool]

Every suppossedly "confirmed" roster you've seen so far is... how should I say... bulls**t.

We'll have the real roster next week -- All of 'em (minus the legends, we're holding those for later but all of those lists are false too).

Check back for it then. Until then, trust me -- they're ALL false

http://boards.ign.com/wwe_smackdown/b6546/125902395/p1/?61

$50 says that all of the current roster that was "announced" will be on their "list."

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

I bet they were too

[Disturbed316]

As long as Perfect is a legend, I'll be happy.

[Just John]

If the boogeyman is on the roster and none of the mexicools are, I will curl up into a tiny ball and selfdestruct

[Crippla]

SPLAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Psicosis and Crazy should be on the roster and so should Finlay and Kennedy.

[Skippord]

CRAWLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING INNNNNNNNNNN MYYYYYYY SKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Here's my absolute final guess at the roster before it is confirmed this week (minus legends)...and yes, its the same list I had in early August:

RAW:
Big Show
Candice Michelle
Carlito
Chris Masters
Edge
Eugene**
John Cena*
Johnny
Johnny Nitro*
Kane
Kenny
Lita
Melina
Mick Foley
Mickie James
Mikey
Mitch
Nicky
Randy Orton*
Ric Flair
Rob Van Dam
Shawn Michaels
Shelton Benjamin*
Torrie Wilson*
Triple H*
Trish Stratus
Umaga

SmackDown:
Ashley
Batista*
Boogeyman
Booker T*
Brian Kendrick
Chris Benoit*
Daivairi**
Finlay
Great Khali
Gregory Helms
JBL
Joey Mercury
Ken Kennedy
Kurt Angle*
Lashley
Mark Henry
Matt Hardy
Paul Burchill**
Psicosis
Rey Mysterio*
Super Crazy
Undertaker*
William Regal

Legends:
Andre the Giant
Bret Hart
Dusty Rhodes
Eddie Guerrero
Hulk Hogan
Mr. Perfect**
Rick Rude**
The Rock
Roddy Piper**
Stone Cold Steve Austin

* = Already 100% confirmed
** = Only ones I have some doubts about for various reasons</font>

[KingofOldSchool]

Umaga and Khali won't be in, they'll probably get the MNM treatment from last year.

[Kalyx triaD]

Umaga and Khali won't be in, they'll probably get the MNM treatment from last year.

...Who recieved the La Resistance treatment from before then.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I was thinking about that, but then again Umaga/Khali each debuted on the Raw/SD after Mania. MNM/La Res debuted later on like that

but eh, if they don't make it you'll still get Vis and Tatanka or something so its all good. I'd probably only use Umaga for his theme anyway</font>

[Extreme Angle]

Batista JBL Randy Orton
The Big Show Jillian Hall Rey Mysterio
Bobby Lashley Joey Mercury Ric Flair
The Boogeyman John Cena Rob Van Dam
Booker T Johnny Nitro Shawn Michaels
Candice Michelle Kane Shelton Benjamin
Carlito Ken Kennedy Snitsky
Chavo Guerrero Kid Kash Super Crazy
Chris Benoit Kurt Angle Torrie Wilson
Chris Masters Lance Cade Trevor Murdoch
Daivari Lita Triple H
Edge Mark Henry Trish Stratus
Eugene Matt Hardy Umaga
Finley Melina The Undertaker
The Great Khali Mickie James Viscera
Gregory Helms Paul Burchill Vito
Hardcore Holly Psicosis William Regal

confirmed...
can't believe khali is in...

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

let me help make it easier to read

Batista
The Big Show
Bobby Lashley
The Boogeyman
Booker T
Candice Michelle
Carlito
Chavo Guerrero
Chris Benoit
Chris Masters
Daivari
Edge
Finley
The Great Khali
Gregory Helms
Hardcore Holly
JBL
Jillian Hall
Joey Mercury
John Cena
Johnny Nitro
Kane
Ken Kennedy
Kid Kash
Kurt Angle
Lance Cade
Lita
Mark Henry
Matt Hardy
Melina
Mickie James
Paul Burchill
Psicosis
Randy Orton
Rey Mysterio
Ric Flair
Rob Van Dam
Shawn Michaels
Shelton Benjamin
Snitsky
Super Crazy
Torrie Wilson
Trevor Murdoch
Triple H
Trish Stratus
Umaga
The Undertaker
Viscera
Vito
William Regal

extreme angle posted the 100% confirmed list, I just made it easier to read

here's proof (http://ps2.ign.com/articles/730/730396p1.html)

Non-Playable Characters(Movesets might be able to use with gameshark/codebreaker)

Jerry Lawler
Jim Ross
Jonathan Coachman
Lillian Garcia
Michael Cole
Mike Chioda
Nick Patrick
Theodore Long
Tony Chimmel
Shane McMahon
Stephanie McMahon
Tazz
Vince McMahon

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>OMGVITO</font> :love:

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

makes you very happy too, huh Vito? even though it's probably the Italian gimmick

[El Fangel]

Divas why the hell would they waste disc space on people that no one ever uses.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Damn, looking over this roster actually made me really glad they left the Spirit Squad out. Vito, Burchill, Kash, Snitsky, Eugene, etc. made it in as a result and they are all at least unique characters :love:

Plus they've included Holly so I'll have someone to test my CAWs on</font> :cool:

[Mike the Metal Ed]

I just put them into their current (or last) brands. Shouldn't need to tell you the key.

Batista
The Big Show
Bobby Lashley
The Boogeyman
Booker T
Candice Michelle
Carlito
Chavo Guerrero
Chris Benoit
Chris Masters
Daivari
Edge
Finley
The Great Khali
Gregory Helms
Hardcore Holly
JBL
Jillian Hall
Joey Mercury
John Cena
Johnny Nitro
Kane
Ken Kennedy
Kid Kash
Kurt Angle
Lance Cade
Lita
Mark Henry
Matt Hardy
Melina
Mickie James
Paul Burchill
Psicosis
Randy Orton
Rey Mysterio
Ric Flair
Rob Van Dam
Shawn Michaels
Shelton Benjamin
Snitsky
Super Crazy
Torrie Wilson
Trevor Murdoch
Triple H
Trish Stratus
Umaga
The Undertaker
Viscera
Vito
William Regal

RAW: 22
SmackDown!: 24
ECW: 4

[Kalyx triaD]

ECW would be better represented if the Divas weren't there.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Holly's definately the most curious decision of the lot.

Also, now that I think about it, Vito might be in his more recent form...he's had the gimmick for a few months already and it'd be odd having him in Mafia form without Nunzio in the game.

Well, right now there's 51 current wrestlers...I had always heard the final count of playable characters would exceed 60...so here's my bold prediction:

Active Roster: 51
Legends: 10 (the legends list posted earlier)
Special Unlockables: 4 (Cactus Jack, Tommy Dreamer, Sabu, Sandman)

TOTAL: 65

---

Originally I wouldn't have fathomed this, but seeing some of the inclusions anything can happen.</font>

[Crippla]

I just put them into their current (or last) brands. Shouldn't need to tell you the key.

Batista
The Big Show
Bobby Lashley
The Boogeyman
Booker T
Candice Michelle
Carlito
Chavo Guerrero
Chris Benoit
Chris Masters
Daivari
Edge
Eugene
Finley
The Great Khali
Gregory Helms
Hardcore Holly
JBL
Jillian Hall
Joey Mercury
John Cena
Johnny Nitro
Kane
Ken Kennedy
Kid Kash
Kurt Angle
Lance Cade
Lita
Mark Henry
Matt Hardy
Melina
Mickie James
Paul Burchill
Psicosis
Randy Orton
Rey Mysterio
Ric Flair
Rob Van Dam
Shawn Michaels
Shelton Benjamin
Snitsky
Super Crazy
Torrie Wilson
Trevor Murdoch
Triple H
Trish Stratus
Umaga
The Undertaker
Viscera
Vito
William Regal

RAW: 21
SmackDown!: 26
ECW: 4


Why do you have Candice on SmackDown!?

[Just John]

I think Holly was put in by pity (his injury) to be honest, great roster though, nice to see some WHERE THE FUCK IS PAUL LONDON.


:mad:

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Why do you have Candice on SmackDown!?

Because I really don't know or care what clueless waste of airtime is on which show, but I'll edit it.

[Disturbed316]

Not seeing Chris Jericho's name there makes me cry :'(

[Crippla]

Somebody please rep me. Whether it's negative or positive, I don't care but just keep repping me please.

[Just John]

Not seeing Chris Jericho's name there makes me cry :'(

STFFNNGGG :mad: :'(

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Holy fuck...I'm just now noticing that Kendrick and London aren't there :|

*prays they are meant to be unlockable through Microsoft Points or something*</font>

[Disturbed316]

JERICHO SHOULD BE A LEGEND!

[Crippla]

Jericho should be a legend but I didn't expect him to be in it this soon as there is a slight possibility he will return to the WWE one day and Please neg or pos rep me, I can't keep seeing this guy jacking off.

[Kane Knight]

Divas why the hell would they waste disc space on people that no one ever uses.

They think Divas sell? They want to appeal to women, thinking crappy useless female wrestlers attract them? They don't want to give us a good roster?

Take your pick.

[Kalyx triaD]

All of the above.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

WTF? No Spirit Squad and no London and Kendrick? I'm happy Umaga/Burchill, Finlay, and Kennedy are all in, but come on. The SS has been a main part of Raw for awhile. If nothing else, I would have atleast liked Kenny in it.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The Squad is perfectly understandable. I can see why they wouldn't wanna take up 5 spots but not just put a couple in either.

Kendrick/London just shock me though. First time I looked through the roster I didn't even notice they weren't there...just assumed they were. Prolly didn't wanna include just one set of tag champs.

Whatever, Vito makes this roster rule by default</font> :y:

[Crippla]

Why is Snitsky on there? He's probably made 5 appearances on Raw all year and London and Kendrick are Tag champs and not on there.