Chris Benoit found dead (From WWE.com)

[IC Champion]

I can't see it being Benoit who did it.

[ClockShot]

Well gentlemen. I've enjoyed your company on this. I'm off to bed. I trust you try not to lose any sleep over this. Keep him in your thoughts and prayers.

But as of right now. I wouldn't believe anything that's working it's way around the net. Keep and open mind and hope the worse hasn't happened.

Have a good night everyone.

[mrslackalack]

even more stunned on how its happened.

[Londoner]

No way has Benoit done that, why would he???

[mrslackalack]

Yeah if its reported that Benoit did it then you will see all kinds of shows wondering why, espically after he was loved by every1 and a big family man.

[lort]

Woah. I'm having a real hard time swallowing that it could have been Benoit. That doesn't add up to, doesn't make sense from anything I know about the guy especially from what people have been saying today.

[311]

http://www.foxnews.com/

Leave it to Fox news to jump to conclusions.

[mrslackalack]

I agree with 311, I feel not only shocked but totally ill

[IC Champion]

I don't see it being Benoit, Maybe his wife had some phsycological issues, or something like that. There's definetly something behind this.

[The Naitch]

WOW

this is unreal right now

[mrslackalack]

Benoit said this on his DVD when talking about breaking Sabus neck

'' I would rather hurt myself than someone else''

[ShakeZula]

Seems odd WWE.com wouldn't put anything about a double murder suicide up until after the tribute show was over...

Oh ya, and CNN and MSNBC say now investegators say Benoit did it...

[The Naitch]

He did it

















































for The Rock

[mrslackalack]

If Benoit did it, def the most tragic and shocking news story in wrestling maybe ever.

[PapaGeorgio]

note according to wiki

Fayette County, Georgia police are investigating Benoit's house following the discovery of the bodies. Lieutenant Tommy Pope of the Fayette County Sheriff's Department reported to ABC News that it was being investigated as a "possible double murder-suicide". Investigators believe that Benoit killed his wife and son over the weekend and then himself sometime on Monday although the cause is unknown.

Fox News is reporting "Detective Bo Turner told television station WAGA that the case was being investigated as a murder-suicide" and "WAGA reported that investigators believe Benoit killed his wife and son over the weekend, and then himself sometime Monday." [85]

[311]

I'm not sure if anyone else has been refreshing the testimonials section of WWE.com, but, they pulled Stephanie and Dean's videos for about fifteen minutes. Really strange, but now they're back up.

This entire thing is making absolutely no sense at the moment.

[Kane Knight]

Even the death of a man and his family can't stop KK's insults. FFS.

Yes. Not calling stupid people stupid will bring Chris Benoit back. MAYBE IF I CHECK WIKIPEDIAA AND WISH REALLY HARD IT WILL BE TRUE!

[Avenger]

I don't know what to think or say.

It's not our place to speculate on what has happened and I think if you have any respect for Benoit at all you will all just leave the speculation to the side for now.

Benoit has been scrutinised personally and professionally by the wrestling community for fifteen long years now and never once has there been a doubt about his character. He has always been a truly great man and one to look up to.

I am not going to let the events of one day and the ramblings of some idiots at Fox News change this.

I will always admire and respect Chris Benoit.

[mrslackalack]

This will get some big-time publicity

[Shadow]

Hey Naitch...shut the fuck up. Seriouslly. This is something serious and shouldn't be fucked around like that.

Ya jackass.

[Kane Knight]

note according to wiki

Fayette County, Georgia police are investigating Benoit's house following the discovery of the bodies. Lieutenant Tommy Pope of the Fayette County Sheriff's Department reported to ABC News that it was being investigated as a "possible double murder-suicide". Investigators believe that Benoit killed his wife and son over the weekend and then himself sometime on Monday although the cause is unknown.

Fox News is reporting "Detective Bo Turner told television station WAGA that the case was being investigated as a murder-suicide" and "WAGA reported that investigators believe Benoit killed his wife and son over the weekend, and then himself sometime Monday." [85]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/06/25/wrestler.dead.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

Might as well use a source, instead of Wikipedia.

[311]

I'm having a really difficult time believing that Chris Benoit could kill his wife, and especially his own fucking son.

It goes without saying really, but I'm just spewing out any thought I have on the matter at the moment.

[McLegend]

along with the AP wwe.com is now saying murder-suicide as well.

[mrslackalack]

I wish this all was just a big nightmare

[mrslackalack]

Yeah lots of media reports are saying murder-suicide

[Kane Knight]

I'm having a really difficult time believing that Chris Benoit could kill his wife, and especially his own fucking son.

It goes without saying really, but I'm just spewing out any thought I have on the matter at the moment.

Yeah, it's very rare that you see someone and think "He's going to kill his wifew or himself"

I don't know what to believe right now though, so I'm not even trying. I'll wait for some more info.

[311]

I think Edge pretty much summed it up when he said,

"I just don't understand things I like, and I don't think I ever will."

[Triple A]

Wowwwwww

[mrslackalack]

If it does become true. You def wonder why. I also wish that he had talked to some1 about problems if he had any to work them out, anything that could have prevented this.

[mrslackalack]

Yeah, that was a great quote that Edge gave there.

[PapaGeorgio]

It's just crazy, was pretty sad about this all. I mean I still am but a bunch of other emotions entered the mix too. Like the fact that he (possibly she but most like he) killed his own son. Also, doesn't Benoit have like 2 other kids. So they both lost their parents and brother, which I don't think any of us can really imagine what it feels like. Benoit was one of my favorite wrestlers, but I dunno if he did do it I could never respect a man like that. As KK said, got to just wait for more info before I get to caught up.

[IC Champion]

I think Edge pretty much summed it up when he said,

"I just don't understand things I like, and I don't think I ever will."
That made me think to.

[mrslackalack]

I am just speculating here, but does any1 think he was fustrated with the way his wrestling career was going? He was supposed to get a big push on RAW but it was shot down because some felt he wasnt Main Event material and he was sent to ECW.

[SammyG]

Unreal. Just simply unbelievable. So Benoit did it... but then again there's the chance that Nancy did. Fucking ridiculous. God Damnit I cant believe this. Terrible news.

[mrslackalack]

Yeah, Benoit had 2 other kids, plus both his parents are alive and he has a sister as well.

[Mercury Bullet]

First, I just dont know what to think. I really hope he didn't do this to his family, I hope his wife didn't either. I mean, I find it strange there was no prior evidence or belief that something like this would happen and NOBODY knew. If this really was a murder suicide situation, I would think somebody would have at least had a feeling of it first. Like, "Yeh, I know him and his wife were really going through some hard times." Anything suggesting conflict, but there is nothing. Its just toally random. I'm at a total loss in every way. I'm saddened that he's gone, sad that his family is gone, and confused over all the circumstances surrounding the situation.

[IC Champion]

I highly doubt Benoit did it.

[Mercury Bullet]

Edge's quote there was great and if I gained anything from this it was a little more respect for him.

[mrslackalack]

One of my best friends fav wrestler was Benoit, I wonder how he feels right now, Hes on vacation so I have to wait to talk to him

[PapaGeorgio]

Reminds me of Phil Hartman murder suicide, but little worse with kid involved.

[Mercury Bullet]

I hope he didn't, I hope more than anything he didn't, but (and this isn't always the best reasoning) history suggests that he did.

[mrslackalack]

Yeah I have gained back some respect for Edge that I had lost when he cheated on his wife with one of his best friends GF.

[Corkscrewed]

WWE.com is the only one who's reporting that it's been ruled a double murder-suicide.

Everywhere else I've read has only said that it's being investigated as a double murder-suicide.

I really hope it wasn't. It would definitely change the way we look at Benoit. The way anyone looks at Benoit.

It's just that the AP and the Atlanta Journal-Constitutional have some pretty grim reports.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/fayette/stories/2007/06/25/0625benoit.html

Pro wrestler, family found dead in Fayetteville home
By Saeed Ahmed (sahmed@ajc.com), Kathy Jefcoats (kjefcoats@ajc.com)
The Atlanta-Journal Constitution
Published on: 06/25/07

In its ongoing attempt to constantly outdo itself, the World Wrestling Entertainment recently staged the "death" of its chairman in an apparent limo explosion.

Monday night, the largest wrestling organization in the world grappled with a real-life murder mystery: What led to the apparent murder-suicide of superstar wrestler Chris Benoit, his wife and child inside their expansive Fayetteville home?

Officials have not disclosed how the family died, other than to say the deaths did not involve a gun.

"The details, when they come out," said Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard, "are going to prove a little bizarre."

Deputies checking on the family at the behest of Benoit's employer discovered the bodies of the 40-year-old wrestler, his wife, Nancy Benoit, 43, and their 7-year-old son, Daniel, on Monday afternoon at their home on Green Meadow Lane.

Benoit, a Canada native, maintained a residence in metro Atlanta from the time he wrestled for the now-defunct Ted Turner-owned World Championship Wrestling organization.

Most recently, Benoit performed as part of World Wrestling Entertainment. He was scheduled to appear in a pay-per-view title match Sunday night, but was a no-show because of a "family emergency," the WWE said during the broadcast.

His employers, apparently worried, asked deputies to check in on the family, leading to the discovery, said Sheriff's Lt. Tommy Pope.
Murders are rare in Fayette County, particularly so in areas like Green Meadow Lane, a rural stretch of the county where multi-acre mansion-style homes dot the landscape. In 2006, the sheriff's office didn't investigate a single murder.

Fans tried to cope with the news Monday evening as the blogosphere erupted in reader disbelief.
"Obviously, all sorts of speculation are running rampant but I have talked to so many people and nobody really knows," said Bryan Alvarez, who runs Figurefour Weekly, a wrestling newsletter and Web site, from Linwood, Wash.

Benoit began his career in Calgary more than 20 years ago. He wrestled in Japan before moving back to North America.

While working in Atlanta with WCW, he met his wife, Nancy, who managed several wrestlers and went by the stage name, "Woman."

At the time, her then-husband drew up a script that had the couple involved in a relationship as part of an ongoing storyline.

Soon after, the two became romantically involved in real life and married. Benoit has two other children from a prior relationship.

He joined WWE in 2000, and four years later, won its world heavyweight championship.

The family had moved into the Fayetteville neighborhood last summer, said neighbor Alaina Jones.

None of the neighbors recalled seeing police at the house before. Monday night, about half a dozen cars idled on the circular driveway. Deputies stood guard outside the wrought-iron gates of the residence. A car full of youngsters who stopped to gawk at the scene were pulled out by deputies, frisked and sent on their way.

The Monday night broadcast of WWE's "Raw" on the USA Network was supposed to have been a who-dunit into the "death" of Chairman Vince McMohan, whose limousine burst into a fiery explosion moments after he stepped into it after a bout in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., two weeks ago.
The organization scrapped the storyline following Benoit's death, and instead televised a three-hour retrospective on Benoit's career.
And unlike the two-page, hyperbole-filled news release it sent out after its chairman's "death," the statement announcing Benoit's real-life passing was curt and matter-of-fact:
"Chris Benoit and his family were found dead in their home. There are no further details at this time."



If it did turn out Benoit killed his wife and son (it would have HAD to have been a crime of passion... i.e. he just went crazy), that would be one heel turn for the ages...

[Blitz]

I highly doubt Benoit did it.
Based on what?

I'd hate to think he did it as well, but I must trust the investigators of the case before my own markish reaction.

[IC Champion]

This is seriously fucked up.

[Shaggy]

I refuse to believe that Benoit could do such a thing. God I cant even go to sleep tonight.

[mrslackalack]

Yeah similar to Hartman, only that one of his children died as well though while Hartmans 2 kids were unhurt

[mrslackalack]

Yeah it would be a Heel turn for the ages and enternty

[Shaggy]

After hearing how much Benoit cared for his kids from the other wrestlers...its hard for me to really believe the he would murder his own son. I refuse to believe that he did it cause it would crush me more than anything. Ive looked up to Benoit and this would hurt me more than anything has in a very long while.

[mrslackalack]

yea I feel the same way

[Mercury Bullet]

"The details when they come out," said Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard, "are going to prove a little bizarre."

-from ajc.com



That's a little ominous

[Crimson]

As of now none of us know what happened in the Benoit house. So for now i'll just say that he was one of the best wrestlers today..everytime he wrestled no matter who it was, honest to god I would look forward to it because I knew Benoit wouldn't let me down. Just as I type this Vince is actually in the ring! So i'm guessing they might drop the death angle.
R..I.P. Chris

[SammyG]

Why Chris... why. You may have had your problems, but why take Nancy and your 7 year old son with you... Assuming Chris did it of course... this is so terrible.

[Shaggy]

I will say that I was happy how Vince McMahon handled this with appearing on TV in the beginning and explaining things.

[Mercury Bullet]

I just hope this turns out to be the result of something other than domestic violence.

[Blitz]

6/25/2007 11:47:00 PM

Another update on Benoit murder/suicide

by Dave Meltzer

Sources in the Fayette County Police Department are now working under the theory that Chris Benoit killed Nancy on Saturday, son Daniel on Sunday, and then killed himself earlier today.

Benoit was found dead in his weight room. Nancy was found dead in the lving room. Daniel was found dead in his bedroom, accordig t an unnamed source in the department.

Lt. Tommy Pope told ABC News "the instruments of death were located on the scene," but didn't specify what those were or where they were found. Pope said the department was not actively searching for any suspects outside the house.



Ugh.

[Mercury Bullet]

I will say that I was happy how Vince McMahon handled this with appearing on TV in the beginning and explaining things.

Yes that was total class from him. Just goes to show the old "you that you can't always judge a book by its cover", sort of thing.

[311]

I'm really having a hard time wrapping my brain around this one.

I mean, I'm usually cynical as fuck but...something just doesn't seem to add up.
This is a tragedy no matter what has happened, but my god.

[Mercury Bullet]

Lt. Tommy Pope told ABC News "the instruments of death were located on the scene," but didn't specify what those were or where they were found. Pope said the department was not actively searching for any suspects outside the house.


Dear god, yeh that sounds really bad.

[RGWhat316]

This is all just mind blowing right now. But if they are saying that it is a double murder suicide, I would almost want to hear that someone got to his wife and son, and maybe Chris just couldn't take it and took his own life. But no matter what, what ever happened is not going to be usual. I still can't believe it.

[Splaya]

I feel this is a dream. A Serioudly FUCKED UP DREAM

[NeanderCarl]

We're all bummed and we didn't even know him. Imagine what's going through the heads of his peers right now...

[Corkscrewed]

I would have to say, however, that if he did do it (I shudder and pray he didn't), the timeline of everything makes sense. The stories say his wife and son died on Saturday. Perhaps when he called the WWE about that family emergency, he was totally telling the truth, in some really twisted and morbid and sinister way.

And by Monday, after a couple of days of realizing what he had done and what he had thrown away, he might have killed himself too.



I really hope the two above paragraphs are false, but I think we can't help but contemplate that possibility now.

If it was a murder-suicide, though, there has to be a note somewhere...

[311]

Testimonials of Dean and Step have been pulled from WWE.com again...more particularly the ones that spoke about him and his family.

[FourFifty]

This... This can't be.... GODDAMNIT!

[Mercury Bullet]

OKay, these two statements are conflicting and from the same article on foxnews.com...

"Detective Bo Turner told television station WAGA that the case was being investigated as a murder-suicide"

"Sheriff's Lt. Tommy Pope, told The Associated Press that the deaths were being investigated as homicide"

[NeanderCarl]

Well... you can forget about ECW and SmackDown being tribute shows now, surely? There's no way WWE can plaster their TV shows with gushing tributes to a suspected murderer.

It will be a very tricky situation for them this week. I'm guessing we get "Best Of" shows for the rest of the week.

[ChiefStubbs]

Well, I can't even think about it. I barely ate after it hit me right before dinner, and I think I'm gonna puke soon. I have a bad headache, and the thought of Benoit possibly doing it makes it worse.

Why do bad things happen to good people?

[Corkscrewed]

Sometimes, when you snap, you snap. The human mind is a frightfully fascinating thing, capable of intense generosity and sinister malevolence. When people go crazy, they do things they would normally ever even ponder doing.

I don't know what else to do but to speculate, even though that might be considered disrespectful.

This is definitely a tragedy no matter how it turned out it happened. It'll be interesting to see how the public reaction goes from here on out. And if it does turn out to be a worst case scenario, I can't imagine how WWE public relations is going to begin to salvage that mess.

[Corkscrewed]

Well... you can forget about ECW and SmackDown being tribute shows now, surely? There's no way WWE can plaster their TV shows with gushing tributes to a suspected murderer.

It will be a very tricky situation for them this week. I'm guessing we get "Best Of" shows for the rest of the week. Yeah, exactly what I was thinking too. I really do hope they drop the Vince McMahon whodunnit (especially since that implies murder as well) storyline. They don't have to explain anything. Fans will understand. And it's not like they haven't dropped storylines for no reason before.

[311]

No matter what the outcome is, it'll be

1. Shock
2. Sadness/Despair
3. Anger
4. Heated debate

[Jordan]

What a crippler.

[Shaggy]

One thing I read was this...

The Cause might be a gas leak....Benoits wife and son became sick from the gas leak, causing him to come home. While he was home trying to take care of them the gas leak ends up getting all 3.

It is really a horror trying to put it through my head that Benoit would do it. Its been noted that they didnt have any stab or bullet wounds so it cant possibly be that. The only thing that hasnt been said was if there was any bruises or anything from possibly a beating.

Im afraid that I probably wont be able to stomach the news that is coming in the next couple of days.

[The Miz]

Why are you guys so sure that there is no way Benoit could kill his wife and son? Do you know him or something? Of course his friends and co-workers are going to say he was a great guy and a family man after he died, I'm sure Hitler's buddies said that after his death too. For all we know Benoit was a psycho.

[FourFifty]

Im afraid that I probably wont be able to stomach the news that is coming in the next couple of days.

Join the club....
I'm not sure if I'd rather it remain an unsolved mystery or know the truth.

[Hanso Amore]

it is so odd.

If he killed his son the next day (Sunday) after killing Nancy Saturday, it kind of rules out the Temporary Insanity thing, and makes it more motivated.

He calls into work and doesnt show after committing murders, that does make sense though.

After several days of thinking about what he hsa done and what is ahead of himself, he Kills himself. That makes sense.

But I want to know more facts about the events leading to the Sunday call. Everything makes sense after the murders, nothing before it. He is not some crazy killer that would plan this, but who snaps for 2 days then comes out of it. I dont get it

[Jordan]

His name is the CRIPPLER he has ice water flowing through his veins, I don't know how anyone didn't see this coming.

[Heyman]

Regardless of what has happened, I'd just like to thank Chris Benoit for the many wonderful memories that he provided me as a wrestling fan.

I do not know Chris Benoit in real life, but I DO know (to a certain extent) Chris Benoit THE WRESTLER a.k.a. The Rabid Wolverine.

I remembered that first night when Benoit lead the Radicalz and shit kicked DX. I remember that night where Chris Benoit became World heavyweight Champion for the 1st time, only to celebrate with Eddie Guerrero afterwards. I remember Chris Benoit for his 5 star classic matches with Dean Malenko, Triple H, Chris Jericho, Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, and many many more.

I do not "know" Steve Williams. I do not "know" Michael Hickenbottom, or Paul Levesque. Simiarly, I do not "know" Chris Benoit outside the WWE.

Based on his tremendous wrestling career however, I want to thank Chris Benoit for the many wonderful memories that he provided me.

God Bless. :heart:

Sincerely,

Kapil.

[Jordan]

I hope he gets to read tha.... oh.

[FourFifty]

Why are you guys so sure that there is no way Benoit could kill his wife and son? Do you know him or something? Of course his friends and co-workers are going to say he was a great guy and a family man after he died, I'm sure Hitler's buddies said that after his death too. For all we know Benoit was a psycho.

Fuck you and every goddamn thing you stand for. So it might be true that Benoit did it. It might not be true. While there is that one ray of light left in Pandora's box, let us hold onto it instead of trying to take it away. The only thing that is final is there are three people who are dead, and a world in shock.
Now it might be true that when someone passes away people mainly recall the good memories and block out the bad. It has happened in my family where some junkie with mental and legal problems killed himself. I know this happens. But youd on't have to be a total prick about it.
If Benoit ended up doing it then I'm sure we'll all be in shock. All we've seen is him in the ring, him not breaking kayfabe. And maybe you're idea of Benoit being a psycho is true. Until we know who did what please do us all a favor and shut the fuck up!

[Reavant]

jordan x what is wrong with u?

[Bazooka]

hooooly (just found out now)

benoit was one of my favourite wrestler's when I watched, this is insane. I figured it was apart of the Vince McMahon work but it's not obv. This is terrible news. RIP Benoit and family. Benoit may be guilty of murder/suicide which is horrible but I don't want to "assume" anything until I know - if it's true, I have to wonder why. :(

[Corkscrewed]

I think the current theory is that he killed his wife and son both on Saturday.

That'd make for some sadistic irony to the report that he called WWE and said Daniel and Nancy were "coughing up blood."

Why are you guys so sure that there is no way Benoit could kill his wife and son? Do you know him or something? Of course his friends and co-workers are going to say he was a great guy and a family man after he died, I'm sure Hitler's buddies said that after his death too. For all we know Benoit was a psycho.
And for all we know, Paul London really IS Jesus Christ himself.

But based on everything we've ever heard before this, it's hard to fathom something like this happening. Not unless you suspect anything from absolutely anybody.

[The Miz]

Fuck you and every goddamn thing you stand for. So it might be true that Benoit did it. It might not be true. While there is that one ray of light left in Pandora's box, let us hold onto it instead of trying to take it away. The only thing that is final is there are three people who are dead, and a world in shock.
Now it might be true that when someone passes away people mainly recall the good memories and block out the bad. It has happened in my family where some junkie with mental and legal problems killed himself. I know this happens. But youd on't have to be a total prick about it.
If Benoit ended up doing it then I'm sure we'll all be in shock. All we've seen is him in the ring, him not breaking kayfabe. And maybe you're idea of Benoit being a psycho is true. Until we know who did what please do us all a favor and shut the fuck up!

Exactly, all you've seen him is in the ring. You don't know shit about what kind of person he is. That's why all these posts like "I refuse to believe Chris would do that" are ridiculous. Chris Benoit, the wrestler, was one of my favorites too. Chris Benoit, the person, I cannot vouch for--neither can any of you. But if it's true that he murdered his wife and 7-year-old son, then fuck him.

It's like saying there's no way Michael Richards could be a racist because Kramer had black friends.

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

I don't know all the circumstances, but is it possible that his wife called and sounded really disturbed or something, so he went home, only for her to go berserk and kill the whole family? I'm not quite sure why everybody is pinning this all on Benoit.

I really don't want to believe any of these scenarios. This is all so terrible.

[Ninti the Mad]

Or perhaps the gas leak thing could be true...

He could've died at a later date since he was exposed to it after an extended period from the other two.

sigh

[Shaggy]

Why are you guys so sure that there is no way Benoit could kill his wife and son? Do you know him or something? Of course his friends and co-workers are going to say he was a great guy and a family man after he died, I'm sure Hitler's buddies said that after his death too. For all we know Benoit was a psycho.

I dont think its really along the lines of us really thinking he couldnt do it...Because hell...anyone can kill anyone...

Its more along the lines of that we dont really want it to end up that he did it. We all dont want to believe that the guy we have looked up to in the ring week after week could do such a horrible I thing.

I refuse to believe it

[NeanderCarl]

I don't know all the circumstances, but is it possible that his wife called and sounded really disturbed or something, so he went home, only for her to go berserk and kill the whole family? I'm not quite sure why everybody is pinning this all on Benoit.


Because, apparently, she died on Saturday, the kid on Sunday, and Benoit on Monday.

[Maluco]

Think Heyman summed it up best. I have not watched wrestling since last august when I left for Brazil, but Benoit, the wrestler, the talent, was great and I will always remember being off my seat, up late, watching THAT Wrestlemania and the finish to that match.

If something sinister has happened, could be evil, lust, jealousy, or a mental imbalance, terrible accident, ANYTHING, we might never know motives or actual chains of events.

We do know who we watched for all those years though, and for that, we have to say thank you.

[Bazooka]

I don't know all the circumstances, but is it possible that his wife called and sounded really disturbed or something, so he went home, only for her to go berserk and kill the whole family? I'm not quite sure why everybody is pinning this all on Benoit.

I really don't want to believe any of these scenarios. This is all so terrible.
absolutely, it could have been Nancy, it could have been someone else - we aren't psychic's here. Although reports (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/06/25/wrestler.dead.ap/index.html?cnn=yes) lean toward Benoit killing the family (primary suspect) which I imagine causes people to believe he was the killer, which might be true.



I remember my fav wrestlemania moment (Benoit winning the world championship), I guess it's best to think of the good right now, the happy memories.

[311]

I've stopped trying to make any sense of this in my brain, as the details that are coming in don't create any sort of sense either.

[Juan]

I don't know all the circumstances, but is it possible that his wife called and sounded really disturbed or something, so he went home, only for her to go berserk and kill the whole family? I'm not quite sure why everybody is pinning this all on Benoit.

I really don't want to believe any of these scenarios. This is all so terrible.

My thoughts exact;y.

This sucks. Big time. :nono:

[Skippord]

Weird that they all died on seperate consecutive days

[ChiefStubbs]

Even if it comes out to Murder/Suicide, like that asshole The Miz said, we didn't know Chris Benoit the person. We only knew Chris Benoit the performer. So you can't hate him for killing his wife and kid, IF he did that, because you don't know what he had going for or against him. I had a friend who killed his dad under the influence of Prozac. Do I hate him? No.

[RGWhat316]

I found a video link from a local news report from where he lives.
http://www.cbs46.com/sports/13568106/detail.html
But no matter what the situation is, I will respect Benoit and miss him for what he did inside the ring.

[Ninti the Mad]

Or perhaps the gas leak thing could be true...

He could've died at a later date since he was exposed to it after an extended period from the other two.

sigh

[Zeeboe]

I wish this all was just a big nightmare

I hear that bro. :y:

[311]

The more I read the more I get the feeling that no one has any concrete information about what the investigation actually is. There are so many conflicting reports.

[RP]

Fuck you and every goddamn thing you stand for. So it might be true that Benoit did it. It might not be true. While there is that one ray of light left in Pandora's box, let us hold onto it instead of trying to take it away. The only thing that is final is there are three people who are dead, and a world in shock.
Now it might be true that when someone passes away people mainly recall the good memories and block out the bad. It has happened in my family where some junkie with mental and legal problems killed himself. I know this happens. But youd on't have to be a total prick about it.
If Benoit ended up doing it then I'm sure we'll all be in shock. All we've seen is him in the ring, him not breaking kayfabe. And maybe you're idea of Benoit being a psycho is true. Until we know who did what please do us all a favor and shut the fuck up!


ITS STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT!

[Corkscrewed]

^ Did CBS 46 just pull a clip from the Benoit DVD to support their "as of now, family members are remembering the good times" blurb??? :wtf:

[Corkscrewed]

Anyway, I think I'm done for today. I've been looking at this story too long anyway, and nothing's gonna happen till tomorrow at the earliest.

Deepest sympathies to the Chris and Nancy's friends and families. But until we figure out exactly what happened, the only victim I can feel sorry for at this point is little Daniel.

Corky out.

[YOUR Hero]

Don't believe the gas leak stuff at all. Chris killed his family. That's the most logical scenario at this point. No one wants to believe that, but not wanting to believe something doesn't make it untrue.


PS; Some of you guys are spazzes

[RP]

Guys lets stop with the gas leak theory. Theres a certain progression that you go through when dieing from something like that. Eventually there would have been some attempt to go to a hospital.

[Hanso Amore]

When the story first broke, all I could think was "I bet Kevin Sullivan Finally got revenge"

But as the day goes on, Its looking so much worse.

[Splaya]

This is all so sad. I don't even know what kind of emotion that I am feeling right now

[RP]

I'm withholding judgement til we find out for sure what happend, but Benoit was by far my favorite wrestler of all time.

[FourFifty]

Fuck this, and fuck RP for his "it's still real to me" refrence. I'm going to try to get some sleep tonight....

[RP]

go fuck yourself.

[Shaggy]

WWE.com is reporting the official statement is that Chris killed his family....they say that they have furthur evidence but the police wont let them release it as of yet.

:'( :'(

[Londoner]

Don't believe the gas leak stuff at all. Chris killed his family. That's the most logical scenario at this point. No one wants to believe that, but not wanting to believe something doesn't make it untrue.



Sorry Hero but how can you say that for sure atm? Just cause you believe it, doesn't make it true, either.

[FourFifty]

Hey, it wasn't you. Sorry. It's just every conversation I've had with wrestling fans in the last three days (except one) has had someone saying "It's still real to me, damnit" and I'm sick of it.

[Gone Mad]

I was at work when the news broke. My friend just text me with Benoit was found dead and I was just stunned. The reason I was still watching wrestling is gone. Someone who I watched in matches and respected everything he did in the ring. He's now gone and probably commited some horrible acts.

Either way, this is very sad and it's just hard to believe.

[FourFifty]

It's all but offical..... (http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/superstars/chrisbenoit/articles/benoitupdate)

[Londoner]

WWE.com is reporting the official statement is that Chris killed his family....they say that they have furthur evidence but the police wont let them release it as of yet.

:'( :'(

Hmmmm, well fair enough if its being reported..but still, shocking i feel worse for his family than him. The question still remains as to why?

[Kalyx triaD]

I read the first page of this thread just to see reactions and compare them to mine and instead I damn near cried. I'm playing "Beat It" and cartoon theme songs right now! This shit is so heavy man... Me and my friend were coming up with stupid topics during commercial breaks like, "That Transformers movie looks nice" and stuff like that.

GOD DAMMIT!!! Guys, FUCK

I'm contemplating, seriously contemplating not watching pro-wrestling anymore. Just casually keep up with results and such like Smallville or something. It's not even entertaining anymore and I don't think I'll be able to take it seriously when Mr. McMahon's dead again after seeing his ass was in a WWE ring tonight. I don't feel like seeing HBK or even Torrie fucking Wilson (who I hate to see on TV) one week and dead the next. These are people you see weekly and invest attention to them. They speak and move and make gestures at you and BOOM - "So and so is found dead."

Does anybody feel me on this? If I'm overreacting just give me a good old red-dot and I'll begin the slow walk back to business as usual.

[Skippord]

Thats gonna make ECW intensly awkward

[Shadow]

Folks...can ya do me a favor? Stop with the speculation until we have some solid proof? All this speculation is rather...dissapointing.

[RP]

Was McMahon at raw tonight?

[Londoner]

Yeah RP he stood in the ring and revealed his own death was a storyline, could've atleast said 'fake'. I'm also probably gonna stop watching, i was going to anyway before Vengeance but this is like the final nail in the coffin.

[FourFifty]

For me, the show must go on. You cannot blame what happened with Chris Benoit on WWE, The McMahon family, or anyone else.

I might watch ECW just to see what's going on, and read SmackDown's spoilers.

[Londoner]

Im not blaming it on WWE, just i don't feel i have a reason to watch now especially after how shit Vengeance was, as i said, this was before Benoits death.

[TapOut]

I simply cannot believe this.

I have watched Benoit ever since he joined the WCW roster full-time. This is a character study, a psychology study. None of us know Benoit, but we feel like we do. Then something like this happens and we totally have to re-evaluate what we THINK we know.

No matter what comes of this, nothing will change what I thought of Benoit the wrestler, the man who went out there and gave 100% + every night. Easily the best in-ring worker I've ever had the pleasure of watching.

R.I.P. to all three of them and prayers to his family, frieds and co-workers.

As for Vince, the angle was fiction and this is reality, and McMahon made that clear. I will not try to make them seem like they were somehow related like some fans are. Two entirely different incidents, and I'll treat them as such. McMahon showed a lot of class by canceling the show and dropping the angle. WWE has done everything right in my book.

[Hanso Amore]

The WWE must have some reliable Info. They would never put out he was a killer unless it was definite. Not to save his name, but for their own pockets. Now they had a Murderer on the payroll. They must KNOW, because this is going to hurt them.

[The Miz]

Don't believe the gas leak stuff at all. Chris killed his family. That's the most logical scenario at this point. No one wants to believe that, but not wanting to believe something doesn't make it untrue.


PS; Some of you guys are spazzes

FUCK YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU STAND FOR

[TapOut]

I don't want to believe it, but everything certainly points in the direction of some sort of murder-suicide. Who did what, who knows. But the overwhelming evidence has the authorities saying they think Benoit did it. Like I said, I hate that this happened, but I'm not going to refuse to believe it because he was one of my favorite wrestlers.

WWE.com wouldn't put anything hinting at Benoit being a killer if they didn't have just reason to believe it. Maybe there's some off-chance everyone is wrong, but with the statements coming so quickly, that seems unlikely.

The best we can do is remember Chris for his career and try not to pretend we know stuff we really don't.

[Shaggy]

Getting off the subject just a little bit...something Im really proud of is that for once something huge has happened and we dont have fifty billion different threads about it. Finally for once everything about one thing is kept in one thread.

Thank You everyone who had decided to post in this thread instead of going off and posting 30 other threads about this...

On a day like today its good to only have to read from one place other than reading fifty different places.

[The Naitch]

i hope this makes wrestling cool again

[Shaggy]

If they even report that anything bad that has been talked about is true I still am not going to agree with it...I dont want to believe it.....

[Renaissance man]

My god no :(

R.i.P Chris

You Will always be the greatest in our eyes

Dammit man :(

[Jon Kano]

Naitch you are not, and never will be cool, so stop trying and stfu you prick.

[Azriel]

Damn, i really don't know what to think, but damn, Benoit was one of the best wrestlers out there and he will surely be missed

[Londoner]

FUCK YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU STAND FOR

I agree.

[Marc the Smark]

Will anyone here respect Benoit less if it's confirmed that he was the murderer? Not saying anyone should, just wondering...

[Londoner]

I already have done...i respect Benoit the wrestler but Benoit the person is a disgrace for doing this...

[Marc the Smark]

I already have done...i respect Benoit the wrestler but Benoit the person is a disgrace for doing this...

The action, whoever committed it (presumably Benoit) is absolutely disgraceful. None of us would disagree with that. But is a person a disgrace for one action? A sad soul, yes, a very troubled and conflicted person - I bet he was high at the time - but I'm interested to see what others think about him being a disgrace.

[Londoner]

To kill your family is a disgraceful thing to do, which makes you a disgraceful person, i dont want to believe it either, but it happened, apparently.

[Marc the Smark]

Aren't we all a little curious to see what weapons were used? If it really was Benoit who did this, did he even need any weapons??

[Shaggy]

I would assume weights were used as the weapons.

[Azriel]

I'm really hoping Benoit didn't kill his family. Maybe more likely he killed himself in grief over losing his wife and son.

[Azriel]

BTW, did WWE.com take down the videos completly? I've been trying to find them

[Impact!]

Knife Edge Chops

[Impact!]

And yeah, they've taken down the video's.

[Londoner]

Even ssnews reported it now, that was weird. Just said what wwe.com said.

[#1-norm-fan]

The WWE must have some reliable Info. They would never put out he was a killer unless it was definite. Not to save his name, but for their own pockets. Now they had a Murderer on the payroll. They must KNOW, because this is going to hurt them.

According to an article I was reading on ESPN.com "The WWE reported on its Web site on Monday night that friends received several curious text messages sent by Benoit early Sunday morning."

I'm guessing that, coupled with that quote about how the evidence will be a little bizzare may be the reliable info... I don't know. Obviously if there was some seriously horrible info in the texts sent Sunday morning, it would have been taken care of Sunday morning I would assume.

[TapOut]

It doesn't say in what condition the bodies were in, that's important to remember. Just because it said there were no bullet wounds doesn't mean there were no wounds of any type. I think that immediately makes us think of strangulation or something else. There are numerous other things that could have happened, far too many to speculate on.

As to whether or not this changes my perception of him... well, I didn't know him, but the way I imagined him seems very much in line with how his peers describe him: Passionate, took his work seriously, timid but tough, etc. This may or may not change how I percieve him as a person. I just don't know. I see people on the news all the time accused of such things and I think they're animals, now one of my idols is dead and accused of a heinous act and I have a hard time thinking of him as I do the others who have done the same thing.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm sorry if this comes off funny but I would assume Chris Benoit wouldn't need a weapon to kill a woman and a child.

[Jon Kano]

I have saved some of the vids in the FLV? format, but you can d/l players to play them if anyone wants them. Think I got them all apart from CM Punk's.

[DCXtreme]

Benoit def is a 08 HOF

Uhh.. No

[Good Ol JG]

I don't even know what to think. Benoit was one of my all time favorites, and really one of the only reasons I've even been remotely interested in wrestling at all these last couple years. As a performer he will always be one of the absolute best at professional wrestling, bar none.

Who knows how or why any of this happened. Part of me knows the evidence is saying he's a murderer, part of me is holding onto the belief that there will be another scenario found and his name will be cleared. I've been reading some of the posts and I agree with a lot of what's been said, and some people have just made assholes of themselves. But all I can say is if Chris Benoit did kill his wife and son, he was a piece of shit, plain and simple. You can find a way to condone killing someone if it was in the heat of the moment and the killer is sorry, but to kill a child? And moreover to kill your own child? That's just fuckin twisted and evil. I don't want this to sound like I'm jumping to conclusions, because I sincerely, sincerely hope Benoit did not do this. I want to remember him as a great performer and speak positively of his wrestling ability. And right now all of this is just theory and speculation anyway. Either way, Benoit was a great wrestler and no matter what happened he will always be one of the best in his profession.

My prayers go out to his family and friends and to Nancy's family and friends. This is truly a sad day for pro wrestling and for pro wrestling fans.

[#1-norm-fan]

Uhh.. No

There's about a 95% chance Benoit is going into the hall of fame next year.

[Londoner]

Im pretty sure Vince will be in the HOF to...er oh, wait a minute....


(sorry, couldn't resist..)

[Good Ol JG]

There's about a 95% chance Benoit is going into the hall of fame next year.

I'd say 50/50. If he killed em, I think it's a definite no. The WWE is not that stupid. if he didn't, 100% yes he is a hall of famer.

[Kalyx triaD]

Benoit will be HoF in '08 period. He's probably being coded into the Legends roster of SvR08 as we speak.

[Lara Emily]

This is just fucking unbelievable.

I don't know what to think or feel.

[Good Ol JG]

Lord knows we can never underestimate the WWE and their ability to make stupid decisions. But, I really don't see him going in next year if it's ruled that he offed himself and his family. maybe years down the road after all the dust has settled, and I think then it's only a maybe. I really think this is going to hurt the wrestling business if one of the most popular/well respected wrestlers of the fans is rled as a murderor. I don't think even the WWE will touch that. Then again, controversy does create cash, and they did use Eddie's death.

[Shaggy]

If Benoit killed his family then im saying he will be in the HOF sometime after 5 years......

If he didnt kill his family then he will definently be in with in the next 5 years

Dont think he will be in it this year for sure....

[DCXtreme]

There's about a 95% chance Benoit is going into the hall of fame next year.

If he is inducted, a muderer.. then god help us all.

[Londoner]

If he did kill his family and was in the HOF next year...would he be booed or cheered?

[DCXtreme]

Cheered, which is why he wouldnt be in there.

[Kalyx triaD]

LOL

I was just thinking about how years ago my cousin and I would debate about whether or not OJ offed his Wife and that other guy and he'd swear up and down he didn't do it. I'd bring up the humorously incriminating evidence and wonder how somebody could look logic in the face and deny it because he had admiration for a public figure.

The jokes on me.

[TapOut]

Unless some revelation comes to light clearing Benoit of this, I don't see him going in this year. I think it'll be at least five to ten years down the road before any induction occurs. Anyways, the Hall of Fame is somewhat superficial in regards to this whole situation. Unfortunately, history was written, and that history is that one of the most revered pro-wrestlers ever will have a huge tarnish on his legacy.

[#1-norm-fan]

Yeah, on second thought, now that it's looking more and more like he did it... probably not going in. I don't know... I'd have to wait and see after this all dies down a little.

[DCXtreme]

Its unfortunate but its his own fault.. i mean he fucking killed his wife.. you have to be fucked up to do that, but then the next day you KILL your son.. instead of maybe, sending him to his grandparents while you kill yourself..

fucked up chris

[Shaggy]

He didnt do it.......Im sticking to that

[TapOut]

While my instinct is to feel bad for Benoit, I immediately think of his youngest son and his two other children who are still living... then there's the footage of all of them celebrating after Benoit's Wrestlemania XX win... and that's the saddest part.

[D Mac]

Fucking shocking. RIP

[EazyMack]

I'm going to assume substance abuse of some sort until proven otherwise.

[James Steele]

Or a mental disease. A mental disease untreated can take over a person completely, and it is not implausible that a 22-year pro wrestling veteran could have developed some mental disease...especially after all the tragedies over the past few years.

[DCXtreme]

Oh wise up guys!

[Bad Company]

has anyone got a torrent of tonights show?

[James Steele]

I don't want to make excuses, but I can't believe that Chris Benoit just decided to kill his family one night.

[el fregadero]

Nothing in the story so far points to substance abuse, sorry fellas.

[Corkscrewed]

'k, so I lied and checked again.

And you know what? If he killed his family, under no condition do I condone the act at all.

But for those of you wondering how a guy like Benoit could snap like that... well, insanity... mental decay... it's a sinisterly powerful thing. It can cause anyone to be driven to kill.


BTW, where does it say his son died on Sunday? Everything I've read has said Daniel and Nancy died before Benoit, but implied they died at around the same time. Haven't read anything that suggests Daniel died on Sunday, rather than Saturday.

[Corkscrewed]

Basically, what I'm saying is that if it turns out Benoit murdered his family, don't suddenly defame his whole life. The act was unforgivable, but I'm convinced (and all evidence and testimony points to) a moment (or a long one) of insanity. And like I've said: one act can ruin your life. And the lives of others.

[James Steele]

Cops Suspect Murder-Suicide in Killings of Pro Wrestler Chris Benoit and His Family

Tuesday , June 26, 2007
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FAYETTEVILLE, Ga. —
WWE (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:siteSearch%28%27WWE%27%29;) wrestler Chris Benoit (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:siteSearch%28%27Chris%20Benoit%27%29;), his wife and son were found dead Monday, and police said they were investigating the deaths as a murder-suicide. Detective Bo Turner told WAGA-TV the case was being treated as a murder-suicide, but said that couldn't be confirmed until evidence was examined by a crime lab.
The station said investigators believe the 40-year-old Benoit killed his wife, Nancy, and 7-year-old son, Daniel, over the weekend, then himself on Monday. The bodies were found in three rooms.
• Click here to view video report from MyFoxAtlanta.com. (http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=3594146&version=9&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1)
World Wrestling Entertainment said on its Web site that it asked authorities to check on Benoit and his family after being alerted by friends who received "several curious text messages sent by Benoit early Sunday morning."
Lead investigator Lt. Tommy Pope of the Fayette County Sheriff's Department told The Associated Press the deaths were being investigated as homicides, and that autopsies were to be performed Tuesday. Pope said the bodies were discovered about 2:30 p.m., but refused to release details.
• Click here for full coverage on the WWE Web site. (http://www.wwe.com/)
The house is in a secluded neighborhood set back about 60 yards off a gravel road, surrounded by stacked stone wall and a double-iron gate. On Monday night, the house was dark except for a few outside lights. There was a police car in front, along with two uniformed officers.
Benoit was a former world heavyweight and Intercontinental champion. He also held several tag-team titles during his career.
"WWE extends its sincerest thoughts and prayers to the Benoit family's relatives and loved ones in this time of tragedy," the organization said in a statement on its Web site.
Benoit was scheduled to perform at the "Vengeance" pay-per-view event Sunday night in Houston, but was replaced at the last minute because of what announcer Jim Ross called "personal reasons."
The native of Canada maintained a home in metro Atlanta from the time he wrestled for the defunct World Championship Wrestling.
The WWE canceled its live "Monday Night RAW" card in Corpus Christi, Texas, and USA Network aired a three-hour tribute to Benoit in place of the scheduled wrestling telecast.
"My relationship with Chris has extended many years and I consider him a great friend," Carl DeMarco, the president of WWE Canada, said in a statement. "Chris was always first-class — warm, friendly, caring and professional one of the best in our business."



http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,286673,00.html

[Corkscrewed]

Not really sure of the point in posting this. People have already linked or alluded to this general AP article. :p

But as long as they still say "haven't confirmed," there's still a tiny bit of hope left in my heart.

[James Steele]

I don't know if I want to read the autopsy results tommorrow.

[Corkscrewed]

I read somewhere that in additional to police ruling out gunshot wounds, they also said there were no stabbings. So I guess I find dark humor in Impact's suggestion that it was KNIFE edge chops... :-\

In confusing times of grief, sometimes humor is the only thing we can turn to.

[Londoner]

Ok james, we get it.

[darkpower]

Saddening and sickening...

...still, I don't see Benoit killing his family...why would he even want to. Not sure why....something doesn't sit right with me...

Still, fucking saddening....

[RGWhat316]

Holy shit! I'm still up and looking around for more info. And on the ABCnews.com comment page, one person is even blaming Vince for this!
http://abcnews.go.com/US/comments?type=story&id=3315789
Has anyone even considered the fact that Chris Benoit canceled his appearance for a world title match at the pay per view at the last minute for a family emergency, which would shake the foundation of WWE's original plan to name him champion of the world?? This would totally change what Mcmahon's plan for the ppv. Then suddenly he and his family are dead???? One thing you don't do is back out on a billionaire at the last minute. Now we all see the power of money and its power over law enforcement as well as the media. Why are all wrestling chat rooms closed down and why has Mr. Mchahon not made a statement himself? We all truly believe Benoit would never do such a horrendous act. This was the works of a billionaire on a power trip who will go as far to have two people and a little boy murdered just for his publicity acts. Benoit would never do this, but we all know Mr. Mcmahon would in a heartbeat just for another 0 to be added to his bank account.

[darkpower]

Holy shit! I'm still up and looking around for more info. And on the ABCnews.com comment page, one person is even blaming Vince for this!
http://abcnews.go.com/US/comments?type=story&id=3315789
Has anyone even considered the fact that Chris Benoit canceled his appearance for a world title match at the pay per view at the last minute for a family emergency, which would shake the foundation of WWE's original plan to name him champion of the world?? This would totally change what Mcmahon's plan for the ppv. Then suddenly he and his family are dead???? One thing you don't do is back out on a billionaire at the last minute. Now we all see the power of money and its power over law enforcement as well as the media. Why are all wrestling chat rooms closed down and why has Mr. Mchahon not made a statement himself? We all truly believe Benoit would never do such a horrendous act. This was the works of a billionaire on a power trip who will go as far to have two people and a little boy murdered just for his publicity acts. Benoit would never do this, but we all know Mr. Mcmahon would in a heartbeat just for another 0 to be added to his bank account.

Vince is a business man, for one (not saying you're wrong or anything, or saying you are retarded for saying this, just saying this because this is how I see it). And, I'm guessing he doesn't want to make any details public while an investigation is going on.

[Londoner]

He made an announcement on raw, fuck sake how many times must i say this? He looked truly shocked himself so i don't think he did it, but, I wouldn't put it past him.

[el fregadero]

ROFL are you kidding me? People are even seriously considering the idea of Vince McMahon killing Benoit and part of his family?

[Londoner]

I'm not saying he did it, Im just saying i wouldnt put it past him.

[RGWhat316]

I don't get it. Not even Vince would see someone get killed just for money and ratings. Hell, that was most of the reason why he released Angle!

And I don't know if this has been pointed out yet, but I had an eerie thought. Eddie was supposed to win the World Title the day he passed, and now it seems Benoit was going to win the ECW title on his passing. Odd coincidence.

[Londoner]

Hmm, yeah that is odd..

[TapOut]

He made an announcement on raw, fuck sake how many times must i say this? He looked truly shocked himself so i don't think he did it, but, I wouldn't put it past him.
Vince McMahon may have screwed Bret Hart and gobbled up a bunch of small territories, but has he done anything even remotely resembling some type of physical violence towards someone to spike a rating or buyrate?

People need to get off of this "Vince is evil" shit. Shrewd business man who will do some wacky things for the sake of a wrestling-entertainment show? Yeah. Some gigantic criminal who kills kids and families? Uh.. no.

Anyone who even think McMahon is remotely responsible for this needs a serious wake-up call. It's such a ridiculous thought it boggles my mind. While we're theorizing, maybe it was The Undertaker... that's a possibility. He takes souls, right?

[Londoner]

I'm just saying that with the amount of money/power Vince has, he could get away with it.

[TapOut]

No, I really don't think he could. For one, he's not really a billionaire. Second, he's not THAT rich. Killing three people in cold blood? No way.

What could he have possibly had to gain? A one-night spike in ratings? A marginal one at that. You think a three-hour show full of past clips did a huge number? You think Benoit's death will spike ratings long-term?

It's such a ridiculous scenario I'm not even going to discuss it further.

[Londoner]

Calm down, it wasn't my idea originally. I'm just not going to defend Vince as much as you're cause I dislike him. Go ahead and stupidly rant at me or w/e, i really don't care.

[Outsider]

Holy fucking shit. This is.....truely the worst thing in the history of professional wrestling.

All I can say is my thoughts are with their family, who's time right now must be unbelievable.

[TapOut]

Calm down, it wasn't my idea originally. I'm just not going to defend Vince as much as you're cause I dislike him. Go ahead and stupidly rant at me or w/e, i really don't care.

I'm not ranting at you, really, just the general idea that someone might think Vince would do such a thing. I apologize if that's how it came across.

[Londoner]

No problem, but we never thought benoit could do this, and it turns out he has..so how can you say vince wouldn't?

[Extreme Angle]

Jesus, I come on TPWW to have a joke and find out benoit is dead :'(
R.I.P

[D Mac]

has anyone got a torrent of tonights show?

It's up on PW Torrents if anyone is a member.

[road doggy dogg]

Calm down, it wasn't my idea originally. I'm just not going to defend Vince as much as you're cause I dislike him. Go ahead and stupidly rant at me or w/e, i really don't care.

You're pretty much a huge faggot if the notion that Vince would even be involved has ever crossed your mind even remotely.

[SammyG]

Yeah the idea of anyone thinking Vince Mcmahon actually did this pisses me off as well. STFU with that bullshit. What we are most likely looking at is that Chris Benoit killed his family, which is making me sick to my stomache.

[D Mac]

Yeah I should be asleep by now. I think i'm losing sleep over this.

[Dave Youell]

I’m not going to lie about this.

He was never one of my overall favourite workers

However, he was without a shadow of a doubt one of the best pure wreslters they ever had, he just lacked the mic skills to take him to the next level. Regardless of the circumstances, he will be missed. You always knew when Benoit was going to have a match you were going to watch some quality wrestling.

Until I know more information about the circumstances of his death I’m reserving judgment, I can’t get my head around how anyone could kill their 7 year old Son, I just can’t.

When Eddie died there were reports within hours that he had taken a drug overdose, they were quashed, I hope/pray that Chris didn’t do what everyone is saying as it will tarnish the good name he could of left behind.

Whatever the reason/circumstances of the death(s) he was a great wrestler and will be missed. I even started using some of his techniques in my matches as I’ve started to do more submission work, past few matches I’ve even started doing his headbutt, doesn’t feel right using it anymore now….

RIP the Benoit family

[James Steele]

I hope that the result of the initial investigations are wrong (which is quite possible), but if this indeed true then I'll probably have a new range of thoughts on the situation. This has WWE behind the 8-ball because they tape ECW and SmackDown! tommorrow and if Chris Benoit did indeed kill his family (and not due to a mental defect that took control of his life over the last few months) then WWE has to choose between honoring a lost brother or celebrating a killer. Also, imagine how his friends and family feel. They lost a friend, a family, and now they have to accept the possibility that their friend or family member is a fucking murderer. I hope this is just a freak accident, but the fact is that Chris Benoit quite possibly had a demon that finally took control. That is not an excuse, but something causes a man to kill his family.

I don't know if we'll ever figure that out or not, but my sympathy are with the 2 children left without their father and step-mom and half-brother. A family left without 3 people they loved. A long list of people who are left without a friend. All those people have to deal with a tragedy that could forever change how they felt about someone they loved. That is more than salt on a wound...that is pouring acid on it. This directly affects so many people on a personal level that I feel selfish for even thinking about how it affects wrestling and its fans. I can only hope that Nancy and Daniel didn't suffer in their death. Rest in peace Nancy, Daniel, and hopefully I can say the same for Chris. I hope my memories and respect for Chris Benoit are not destoryed within the upcoming weeks. I hope we are all wrong. Like Chris Benoit's catchphrase said, "Prove me wrong."

EDIT: How old are the 2 other children?

[Londoner]

You're pretty much a huge faggot if the notion that Vince would even be involved has ever crossed your mind even remotely.


All im saying is, i wouldn't be surprised if someone as fucked up as Vince did it, not that i think he actually did. There's a difference. I'mt alking about what my reaction would be, like i wouldn't be as shocked as i am that benoit seems to have done this.

[Jeritron]

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The McMahon family and the WWE extended family have a lot on their plate, a lot you or I can't even understand. The whole things sad. Vince is Vince but to suggest that is ludicrous. And don't say, how do you know because it's absurd and you know it. Get a fucking life. It's a tragedy, a loss and a mindfuck. So pretty much shut your fucking mouth
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[Londoner]

^ i didn't start the fucking idea, damn. Do you ppl read things properly? Was just following on from someones theory.

[Jeritron]

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[Lara Emily]

Holy fuck, ok, just letting you guys know I'm gonna go on a pretty big assumption trail here, this is a long shot but anyway, let's say the reports of Benoit telling people his family was coughing up blood, I wonder if they somehow had contracted Tuberculosis from that Atlanta lawyer that had it. Look I'm not saying it's likely, in fact I rather doubt it I'll just fully admit right now I`m just looking for anything to show that Benoit wasn't some psychotic killer, if word comes out thay confirms he is then I will accept it.

[TapOut]

I wonder when the last time people saw Nancy and Daniel alive and the last time someone saw Benoit...

The whole thing is just odd. One day he's missing a show due to personal problems, the next his family and he are dead. I know it's none of my business and I have no clue what happened, but I'd really like to know what happened. Human nature I guess.

[Jeritron]

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Don't know what to say about this. At first it was shock and sadness, now it's confusion and discomfort with all the revelations. I don't know what to think of him or the whole situation so I'm reserving that for when I find out more. I can just say, no murderer is still a legend. Great matches are one thing, but if this is true I'm just dissapointed and heartbroken.
It's important to remember that we did not know Chris or any of the people involved directly or affected closely. However through years of being a wrestling fan we can all understand how major this is and that it hits home, and it certainly is a hard situation. Feelings are involved, not on the level of those who knew him and the family, but still it's heavy business nonetheless. Watching someone on television regularly and listening to interviews etc etc is not the same as knowing someone, but it creates the feeling of the next closest thing to that
I can just say that I'm upset with the whole thing, and I want answers as much as anyone but I don't know what else to say at the moment.

No matter what, it's a terrible tragedy



Didn't he have 2 other sons? Where are they?

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[Londoner]

Yeah he did, not sure where they're though im sure its in an article in one of these threads, Btw i saw a chris benoit thread on this other forum i go on and cause its in the forum where most of the cunts go some of them have actually been laughing/joking even though they know its real. Most of them have been sane enough to be respectful but its pretty sad to see people react like that to a families death.

[TapOut]

I thought he had one other son and a daughter.

[Funky Fly]

This is so fucked up. Hadn't watched tv or been online all day. I tune in for RAW and the first thing I see is "In memory of Chris Benoit".

RIP Benoit. You will be missed.

I haven't been through this thread, but judging by the posts on this last page, it looks like some of you need to chill out, so just stop. Okay?

[Londoner]

Im pretty chilled out right now dunno how its coming off to you guys, but some others here need to learn to calm down a bit.

[rob11]

Wow, I am still in shock and don't really know what to say. Benoit was one of my favorites in the WWE becuase he wasn't a hoss like so many and could put on a great match. Through the years he was one of my most respected wrestlers. Now to hear this, I still haven't been able to fully absorb that this happened and not only will I never see him on TV again, that he could potentially be a murderer? This is tough.

[Team Sheep]

I came online about 15 minutes before Raw last night, and saw a little article that said 'relive all of Benoit's championship victories in his career', so I assumed they were doing this because he'd won the ECW title at Vengeance, as I didn't know he'd no-showed the PPV or any of the results.

Then I scrolled down to see his face plastered all over the main page, and my gut just turned.

RIP Chris.

[Jeritron]

what about his family guys? I mean, I said I'd reserve judgement until after, but it seems as though his wife and 7 year old son are the true victims here. They may not have had 5 star matches, but think about this...

I do hope he rests in peace, and I'm deeply saddened by the loss of him. But the whole thing with the family and the probable murder of a seven year old by someone I viewed as "the man" is whats really irking me here.

[Team Sheep]

How about we leave the speculation to the other thread.

[rob11]

what about his family guys? I mean, I said I'd reserve judgement until after, but it seems as though his wife and 7 year old son are the true victims here. They may not have had 5 star matches, but think about this...

I do hope he rests in peace, and I'm deeply saddened by the loss of him. But the whole thing with the family and the probable murder of a seven year old by someone I viewed as "the man" is whats really irking me here.
Exactly, that is also what is bothering me so much. The fact that he would actually murder his wife and 7 year old child. Makes me sick if true.

[Jeritron]

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I haven't speculated on anything....

[Blue Demon]

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:'(

[HeartLess180]

If Chris Benoit really killed his wife and his son then fuck him his ass can burn in hell.........

[Ben Rodrigues]

He's on the other side now laughing at how stupid he was. Laughing with his family and friends that have gone before him. You guys take death too seriously - and fail to see the gift in it.

[Ben Rodrigues]

R.I.P. Benoit - a great legacy and a huge mark you've left on the world.

[Londoner]

^ is it a gift that one of the best wrestlers of all time is now dead??

[Ben Rodrigues]

^ is it a gift that one of the best wrestlers of all time is now dead??

Obviously it's going to be a shame not seeing him on TV every week - but as I said, he's happy once again.

[packt up]

If he's a murderer then he can rot in hell.

[Avenger]

Whatever transpires here I am still confident that he was a great man. He couldn't have one day just turned around and killed his family.

I will not change my beliefs about Benoit and will remain loyal to his name until told otherwise.

[Jeritron]

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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Whatever transpires here I am still confident that he was a great man. He couldn't have one day just turned around and killed his family.

I will not change my beliefs about Benoit and will remain loyal to his name until told otherwise.

Bro, you don't know him. I'm sorry, this is a hard thing to deal with. Who knows what to say or how to react yet, and I realize its hard to come to terms with a hero committing the most vile of human crimes. But I'm sorry to tell you to stop kayfabing or rationalizing yourself and come to grips with reality without distorting it.

If in fact he murdered his wife and 7 year old child, how can you sit here and tell me and yourself he was a great man? It pains me to begin to say these things but come on. You can't even rationalize it as an act of lost temper or temporary insanity since the belief is that he committed each murder on different days of the weekend. He opted to kill his 7 year old son a day after killing his wife.

Tragic, yes. Hard to come to terms with, yes.

[KingofOldSchool]

I kept having images in my head laying bed last night, Benoit beating Nacy in the head with a trophy. And then standing over her body and then flashing his familiar toothless grin.

And it just seems so chilling like that it seems like a genuine possibility of what happened.

[packt up]

Whatever transpires here I am still confident that he was a great man. He couldn't have one day just turned around and killed his family.

I will not change my beliefs about Benoit and will remain loyal to his name until told otherwise.

Er every report in the world is telling you he did it. You know from er...POLICE, and INVESTIGATORS.

Great men don't kill their wife and kids you idiot. Wise up.

[Team Sheep]

Just saw the story on Sky Sports News. Damn, nice house Benoit.

Still can't believe it.

[Jeritron]

He must have gone absolutely insane. Because the case isn't an act of sudden rage or temper. The murders took place over a period of 48 hours and he was in the house with the dead bodies for a while before killing himself. So it was a sustained time period.
The part that chilled me most, and I wonder if this is true or not it's only a Meltzer report, but the police are saying that he didn't kill his son until 24 hours after Nancy...

Jesus, I mean I agree with Avenger when I say he SEEMED like a great guy. It's important to remember we don't know Chris Benoit the man. We only know Chris Benoit the wrestler and tv character.

I hate to draw insensitve comparisons, but when hearing of how this supposedly all went down I couldn't help but think of The Shining.

I know I'll never be able to see or enjoy anything pertaining to Chris Benoit ever again. As revelations come it will only get worse.

[KingofOldSchool]

If anyone is interested Dave Meltzer is going to be on Good Morning America this morning, it's on until 9 am.

I dunno if he was already on, though.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

Don't know if we'll ever find out whether or not he was in full control of his own mind at the time, but I choose to believe that he wasn't.

[Disturbed316]

I missed Raw last night and came on the net for results, this was the last thing I was expecting to read about.

I've sat here for about 20 minutes now, in stunned silence. When I read the headline I felt like someone had punched me in the stomach, it took the wind right out of me.

I've been a fan of Benoit since his days in WCW and can genuinely say I loved prety much every single one of his matches. No matter who he was against, no matter how shitty the angle was, I always enjoyed watching Benoit wrestle. I've seen him wrestle live a number of times and was always mezmorised by him, gotten his autograph and shook his hand a few times and just always loved seeing him on tv.

Which is why I'm having difficulty accepting what has happened. At the moment I haven't read anywhere else about details on this other than here and WWE.com, but, as much as I hate to actually say these words, Benoit did kill his family. Something must have happened to set him off, but whatever it was, whether there was a fight between him and Nancy or an affair by either part of them, whatever it is, it does not excuse him from killing his son. Fuck.

[Jeritron]

especially a day later. I mean, after killing his wife and the boys mother in the house with him, the child was in there with him for 24 hours before he resolved to kill him as well? wow. I hope that detail isn't true,

[Londoner]

The part that doesn't add up is that he rushed back home for a family emergency...thats what makes me think its not benoit.

[Jeritron]

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His explanation on Sunday was that he couldnt make it due to personal reasons. This was of course an explanation given after he had killed his wife on Saturday. He was of his wits enough to call his boss and come up with an excuse for why he couldnt make it to a PPV that he was in a world title match at. And this was after he had killed his wife, and probably his son. A day later he killed himself. The lights were off at the house all weekend, and he had guard dogs patrolling the yard.
He was found in the weight room dead, his wife in the living room, and his son in his bedroom. The weapons were recovered, but guns or knives weren't involved.

this is the reports I'm hearing. Meltzer and the Police are the sources.
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[Team Sheep]

Imagine how that poor 7 year old boy must have been feeling. Knowing his dad has killed his mum and now he's trapped in a house with him, not knowing what is going to happen. How the fuck must that feel.

[KingofOldSchool]

Yeah, Benoit called Saturday saying that he was going to take a late plane to get to the house show on Saturday night only to call later in the day saying that he wasn't going to make the show because Nancy and Daniel were coughing up blood and needed to take care of them.

[Londoner]

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Ah, well that clears that up.:-\

[Jeritron]

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Jesus, it almost makes you wonder what the fuck he was thinking when he placed that call. I mean, could he have gone batshit crazy enough to make that call while he was killing them or even scarier before hand? And perhaps more chilling, could he have done any of this in a manner that he literally meant "the family was coughing up blood and he had to 'take care of them'"
I mean, it's really beginning to freak me out.
Because reports are of the son being killed on Sunday and the wife on Saturday, and now its coming out that he called on Saturday MORNING?!?!

He also didn't kill himself until Monday... which means perhaps it took a while for him to come down from whatever world he was in....

[owenbrown]

When the story first broke, all I could think was "I bet Kevin Sullivan Finally got revenge"

But as the day goes on, Its looking so much worse.

Eerily enough, I almost thought the same thing. :( I hope given their history, Sullivan wouldn't stoop to that level.

[Jeritron]

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[lort]

It's pretty easy to tell if a house was forced into, how long people have been dead, or if they were killed or killed themselves. So I'm guessing the police are pretty damn sure about circumstances.

Guess we have to wait to hear if Benoit left a note and if not what the text messages he left said. As I suppose they will act as a last note. And the results of the autopsy. It's not unheard of that you can develop brain tumors after years of being dropped on your head that could really mess you up.

But no matter what happens, I really feel sorry for his remaining family and his friends/co-workers. If we are having a hard time dealing with this imagine what it's like for people that have traveled with him and worked with him for years. Who really did know him. I really don't envy the WWE and Vince at this point, they have a lot of hard decisions to make.

[McDoogle]

If these allegations are true, I hope he burns in hell and I have absolutely no pity or sympathy for him.

[Triple A]

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Meltzer is saying the friend was Chavo Guerrero.

[KingofOldSchool]

Another thing that makes it hard for forced entry, according to the detectives, the police had a hard time getting into the home because of two large German Shepard guard dogs that were there.

You would think any potential outsider meaning to do harm to the Benoit's would have probably been chewed to bits by the German Shepards.

[Jeritron]

well put lort.


I hate to say this, but this whole story has E True Hollywood story and documentary written all over it....There's just so much information and truly disturbing stuff going on right now

[Jeritron]

Triple A,

where are you getting this Meltzer information? I'd really like to get any source of information right now...not really out of interest, but concern and a need for answers. I normally hate media coverage, but right now I wish they'd give me some answers. They don't seem to care much.

[Theo Dious]

If anyone is interested Dave Meltzer is going to be on Good Morning America this morning, it's on until 9 am.

I dunno if he was already on, though.

This probably isn't the best time to express my hatred of Meltzer, but who the fuck is he to be on GMA over this. :foc: