Chris Benoit found dead (From WWE.com)

[Mercury Bullet]

You know what, in retrospect, (maybe its my mind creating it) but EVERYBODYs interviews seem like they all kinda knew at least a little more than "Chris Benoit and his family are dead".

[Mercury Bullet]

Truth be told, usually when a guy kills his family, it is with a weapon. When a woman kills her family it is posion or suffication. I'm not saying that it can't go either way. But it seems odd that Benoit would have do it that way when it is usually the other way around.

I could see though, If at first he thought he was going to get away with it that he might try and do it differently simply for that reason.

[ChiefStubbs]

Where the fuck did you get that from?
TMZ, CNN, Fox, etc.

[Zeeboe]

I think the son did it all.

If you're going to make jokes about this, you could at least actually be funny.

[BigDaddyCool]

You know what, in retrospect, (maybe its my mind creating it) but EVERYBODYs interviews seem like they all kinda knew at least a little more than "Chris Benoit and his family are dead".

Yes they did. They were sadden and very shooken up. But not openly weeping, which is strange. Steph wasn't even crying. It was almost as if she was trying not to believe something she knew.

[Arnold HamNegger]

Where you read that shit?

Piecing together different articles I've been reading. All speculation at this point, but apparently he was text messaging people that he was watching the PPV with his son. The sheriff's & investigators at this point are saying his wife was strangled Saturday and his son was smothered Sunday night. Then of course his hanging.

The official autopsy report hasn't been released yet, so I really hope this isn't the case because it's beyond disturbing at this point.

[Zeeboe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqkjzoLhtio

I don't know how to put them in a post

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[Marc the Smark]

Not sure if anyone's already posted this, but there's going to be a Press Conference today to reveal the preliminary autopsy results.

And yes, even Dave Scherer of PWInsider.com is saying authorities believe that Chris Benoit strangled his wife Nancy on Saturday, then either strangled or smothered his son in his bed on Sunday, and hung himself on Monday in his weight room. This is sick.

According to an article on TMZ.com, one source told them that Benoit was text messaging friends during the airing of WWE’s Vengeance PPV this past Sunday and was possibly watching the show with his son Daniel, indicating that he may have been alive at the time.

[Theo Dious]

Truth be told, usually when a guy kills his family, it is with a weapon. When a woman kills her family it is posion or suffication. I'm not saying that it can't go either way. But it seems odd that Benoit would have do it that way when it is usually the other way around.

This is what I'm afraid is going to come out, and disturb all of us. What if he used a wrestling hold to kill one or both of them?

[Mercury Bullet]

Okay, if the report is true that he killed his wife first, then stayed at home with his son and killed him later then I think he initially only intended to kill his wife.

I think his wife was a premeditated murder and he intended on getting away with it. After it set in what he had done, I think he panicked, and then decided to kill himself and for some reason also decided it was necessary to kill his son.

[RP]

Jokes? I thought we were all making wild assumptions with no real clue was to what happend.

I must has misunderstood. My bad.

[Skippord]

Yes they did. They were sadden and very shooken up. But not openly weeping, which is strange. Steph wasn't even crying. It was almost as if she was trying not to believe something she knew.
Edge was

[Mercury Bullet]

This is what I'm afraid is going to come out, and disturb all of us. What if he used a wrestling hold to kill one or both of them?

If he choked them with a wrestling hold I seriously think the United States government will ban professional wrestling, possible MMA fighting, and strictly regulate boxing.

[Marc the Smark]

Yes they did. They were sadden and very shooken up. But not openly weeping, which is strange. Steph wasn't even crying. It was almost as if she was trying not to believe something she knew.

Yes, good observation.

[Mercury Bullet]

Edge did seem by the far the most shaken. BUT, I dont know if that means he had no idea what happened. Maybe he's the one that got "curious" text messages from Chris? He might have been very close to situation and maybe thats why he was so shaken.

[Theo Dious]

I thought Chavo got the texts.

[Mercury Bullet]

There seem to be two different types of interviews yesterday...

1) People who ignored his personal life, and focused entirely on his professional work

2) People that focused almost ENTIRELY on his personal life, and tried to hammer in the fact that he was such a loving caring person. Almost like a hope against all hope that what they suspected wasn't true.

[Arnold HamNegger]

The thing I don't get is say he 'snapped', he was fully functional in society and working with the WWE up til this weekend. Nobody noticed a change in him or in his behavior? Same old Benoit goes to work, wrestles a match with Burke during the week...then kills himself and his entire family that weekend?

It doesn't make any sense. These things never do, but my God....

[Marc the Smark]

Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard told The Associated Press that authorities are currently investigating what role, if any, that steroids may have played in the incident.

[RP]

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wtf is Earl Hebner doing sucking up spotlight in that ring when all thats going down. He should have left well before Eddie got in.

[Zeeboe]

Jokes? I thought we were all making wild assumptions with no real clue was to what happend.

I must has misunderstood. My bad.

Hey, so far all fingers are pointing towards Benoit. We all need to stop kidding ourselves here. You all not assuming things are being as guilty as I was last night. I kept lying to myself, saying that Benoit dying was all a work and some of you were as well, but we all knew Benoit was dead....just like we all know that Benoit most likely killed his family and himself.

[Theo Dious]

I'm just feeling sicker and sicker as the day goes on, and the hangover is pretty much gone right now.

[Mercury Bullet]

I thought Chavo got the texts.

Yeh, my first thought to. But I just had the idea that maybe thats why Edge was shaken last night. Maybe not the texts, but maybe he knew more than most and was closer to the situation. Maybe Benoit had been a little extra-weird around him or something, and he was suspicious, but never took action on it cause he never thought something would happen. But he did have the line of the night, by far, when he said something like "I don't understand this kind of thing, I don't think I ever will".

[Paranoid Rattlesnake]

Edge did seem by the far the most shaken. BUT, I dont know if that means he had no idea what happened. Maybe he's the one that got "curious" text messages from Chris? He might have been very close to situation and maybe thats why he was so shaken.


Chavo states he would trust Chris with his Life and his Kids lives. Think that says it all

[RP]

Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard told The Associated Press that authorities are currently investigating what role, if any, that steroids may have played in the incident.


Now the shit will hit the fan.

[James Steele]

Okay, if the report is true that he killed his wife first, then stayed at home with his son and killed him later then I think he initially only intended to kill his wife.

I think his wife was a premeditated murder and he intended on getting away with it. After it set in what he had done, I think he panicked, and then decided to kill himself and for some reason also decided it was necessary to kill his son.

I hope he killed his son just so he wouldn't have to grow up with his parents and with this hovering over his head forever. I can only hope.

[James Steele]

When is the press conference?

[RP]

Hey, so far all fingers are pointing towards Benoit. We all need to stop kidding ourselves here. You all not assuming things are being as guilty as I was last night. I kept lying to myself, saying that Benoit dying was all a work and some of you were as well, but we all knew Benoit was dead....just like we all know that Benoit most likely killed his family and himself.


Most likely isnt good enough for me to start pointing fingers. I'm patient enough to be able to sit back and wait for more information. You're a dumb prick.

[Theo Dious]

Now the shit will hit the fan.

They were in his home, and WWE has a voluntary wellness policy. PR shit, maybe, but not much more.

[St. Jimmy]

Watching Edge's spot from last night was so hard. The look in his eyes was just the most upsetting thing I think I've ever seen.

[Marc the Smark]

When is the press conference?

3PM EST, mayber sooner... I read that somewhere, but I forgot which site because I'm checking different ones.

[Arnold HamNegger]

There seem to be two different types of interviews yesterday...

1) People who ignored his personal life, and focused entirely on his professional work

2) People that focused almost ENTIRELY on his personal life, and tried to hammer in the fact that he was such a loving caring person. Almost like a hope against all hope that what they suspected wasn't true.

:y:

[Mercury Bullet]

The thing I don't get is say he 'snapped', he was fully functional in society and working with the WWE up til this weekend. Nobody noticed a change in him or in his behavior? Same old Benoit goes to work, wrestles a match with Burke during the week...then kills himself and his entire family that weekend?

It doesn't make any sense. These things never do, but my God....

Thats the thing, "snapped" doesn't just happen without ANY warning. It might be minor things but there is ALWAYS some kind of mental and/or physical warnings before someone "snaps". Now, he was quiet and reserved, but maybe he got completely withdrawn before this went down. Maybe he had a temper, but maybe he got extremely volatile before this went down. I don't know. But snapping without any sort of warning doesn't happen.

For the record, I'm not a psychologist but it was my original major in college and I switched @ about 80 units, so I was very close to completing a BA in it. Does that make me an expert? No. So don't jump down my throat about it but I think I can help understand this a little better from that aspect.

[Skippord]

I hope he killed his son just so he wouldn't have to grow up with his parents and with this hovering over his head forever. I can only hope.
Thats what I think too

[James Steele]

Plus, isn't it just random testing unless you were caught before?

[KingofOldSchool]

Yeh, my first thought to. But I just had the idea that maybe thats why Edge was shaken last night. Maybe not the texts, but maybe he knew more than most and was closer to the situation. Maybe Benoit had been a little extra-weird around him or something, and he was suspicious, but never took action on it cause he never thought something would happen. But he did have the line of the night, by far, when he said something like "I don't understand this kind of thing, I don't think I ever will".

But the thing is, people do act differently when a tragedy like this strikes close to home, especially in a tight knit family the WWE locker room usually is.

I mean who is to say, other than the people who are backstage every single day, who really knew what.

And let's not forget the whole grieving process.

[James Steele]

This is going to change the WWE and possibly professional wrestling more than anything ever before if steroids were invovled. With all the shit with all the other sports, this will only add fuel to the fire on the issue.

[BigDaddyCool]

Edge was

Yeah, I was only barely paying attention at that point. I got up and play a video game for a bit.

[Mercury Bullet]

I hope he killed his son just so he wouldn't have to grow up with his parents and with this hovering over his head forever. I can only hope.

Yeh thats about the only reason I can draw from it.

[Arnold HamNegger]

Thats the thing, "snapped" doesn't just happen without ANY warning. It might be minor things but there is ALWAYS some kind of mental and/or physical warnings before someone "snaps". Now, he was quiet and reserved, but maybe he got completely withdrawn before this went down. Maybe he had a temper, but maybe he got extremely volatile before this went down. I don't know. But snapping without any sort of warning doesn't happen.

For the record, I'm not a psychologist but it was my original major in college and I switched @ about 80 units, so I was very close to completing a BA in it. Does that make me an expert? No. So don't jump down my throat about it but I think I can help understand this a little better from that aspect.

Yeah, I work in a Psychiatric Hospital Mercury, so I'm just trying to do the same thing as you. There's usually warning signs before 'snapping', that's what I don't understand. This is so completely out of left field and shocking. It'll be interesting to see if anyone comes out with "noticing changes in his behavior" stories.

[KingofOldSchool]

Yeah, I work in a Psychiatric Hospital Mercury, so I'm just trying to do the same thing as you. There's usually warning signs before 'snapping', that's what I don't understand. This is so completely out of left field and shocking. It'll be interesting to see if anyone comes out with "noticing changes in his behavior" stories.

Well if you remember, both Dean and Chavo always talked about how he usually distanced himself from everyone.

You know kind've like a "loner" somewhat. Usually when shit like this happens they usually have a loner streak in them.

I mean if even his closest friends couldn't really get inside of his head, lord knows what kind of thoughts he's had over the years.

[Kalyx triaD]

Mmhmm, and you're a psychiatry professional, are you?

Don't even. We're ALL playin junior detective on this case and it's looking kinda fucked up. This guy had a fan following, a job, a family and he went and killed his family. I'm not saying less successful people have rights to be killers themselves, but that is a messed up way to leave a legacy.

[BigDaddyCool]

I wonder what Kevin Sullivan thinks about all of this.

[Theo Dious]

Don't even. We're ALL playin junior detective on this case and it's looking kinda fucked up. This guy had a fan following, a job, a family and he went and killed his family. I'm not saying less successful people have rights to be killers themselves, but that is a messed up way to leave a legacy.

You're the one who's talking in definites, the rest of us are flinging maybes like monkey poop.

[Theo Dious]

I wonder what Kevin Sullivan thinks about all of this.

That's the second time I've heard his name, what does he have to do with this?

[Arnold HamNegger]

The only thing I've seen in my 5 years of working in a Psych Ward that I can compare this too, as far as the out of character/left field this thing is, is drug induced psychotic behavior. We've had cases here of people trying to murder there spouses when they are cracked out on drugs....and in rare cases, someone that is being molested will one day just 'snap' and kill the molester. But usually there are warning signs that someone is being molested too.

Either way, none of these things fit Benoit's profile...so it just makes it even more unfuckingbelievable that this happened.

Thing that's chilling, like I said before, is that he could murder his wife on Saturday, call into WWE and quote "personal reasons" for not showing up to the PPV. Then, calmly watch the PPV with his son, send text messages to people...then kill his boy. Then kill himself.

Just awful. :nono:

[BigDaddyCool]

You're the one who's talking in definites, the rest of us are flinging maybes like monkey poop.

Hey, I don't fling monkey poop. Then again, I haven't said anything about what might have happened...

[Innovator]

Press Conference around 3

[KingofOldSchool]

God damn and I have to pick up my girlfriend from work at 3. :mad:

[Marc the Smark]

While updating their coverage of the Benoit family tragedy, the Atlanta-Journal Constitution has posted a report that Nancy Benoit filed for divorce and an order of protection from Chris Benoit in May 2003.

Nancy Benoit alleged in the divorce petition that Chris, "lost his temper and threatened to strike the petitioner and cause extensive damage to the home and personal belongings of the parties, including furniture and furnishings. Petitioner is in reasonable fear for petitioner's own safety and that of the minor child."

This prompted the judge to issue a restraining order on Chris Benoit from entering their family home. In August 2003, his wife Nancy requested that the petition be dismissed. The couple later reconciled and celebrated Benoit’s WWE World Heavyweight Championship win at WrestleMania 20 in the ring together.

[BigDaddyCool]

3 Eastern? So 2 centeral?

[St. Jimmy]

Press Conference around 3

EST?

[KingofOldSchool]

I wonder what Kevin Sullivan thinks about all of this.

If I was a little more morbid, I would've said that afterall of these years, Kevin Sullivan finally got his revenge.

But I'm sure he is just as hurt and outraged by this as all of us.

[Theo Dious]

Hey, I don't fling monkey poop. Then again, I haven't said anything about what might have happened...

Sorry, should have read like this:

the rest of us are flinging maybes like monkeys fling poop.

I'm distressed, gah dammit.

[Arnold HamNegger]

Well if you remember, both Dean and Chavo always talked about how he usually distanced himself from everyone.

You know kind've like a "loner" somewhat. Usually when shit like this happens they usually have a loner streak in them.

I mean if even his closest friends couldn't really get inside of his head, lord knows what kind of thoughts he's had over the years.

True, very true.

[BigDaddyCool]

Lets look at things from another angle. Chris was a work-a-holic. It is fairly obivous. But not just that, he is a work-a-holic in a fake sport. I'm not saying that makes one crazy...alls I'm saying is that makes me question sanity. Especially when you look at how hard Benoit trained to put on fake matches.

[Theo Dious]

"...lost his temper and threatened to strike the petitioner and cause extensive damage to the home and personal belongings of the parties, including furniture and furnishings."

Not the furniture. That son of a bitch. I'm pissed now. :mad:

[Mercury Bullet]

While updating their coverage of the Benoit family tragedy, the Atlanta-Journal Constitution has posted a report that Nancy Benoit filed for divorce and an order of protection from Chris Benoit in May 2003.

Nancy Benoit alleged in the divorce petition that Chris, "lost his temper and threatened to strike the petitioner and cause extensive damage to the home and personal belongings of the parties, including furniture and furnishings. Petitioner is in reasonable fear for petitioner's own safety and that of the minor child."

This prompted the judge to issue a restraining order on Chris Benoit from entering their family home. In August 2003, his wife Nancy requested that the petition be dismissed. The couple later reconciled and celebrated Benoit’s WWE World Heavyweight Championship win at WrestleMania 20 in the ring together.

Hmm, well there's some history that could shed some light on it. So he has had some anger issues before that have led to him threatening violence against his wife. It's a big jump from threats of violence straight to murder though.

[Shaggy]

Does anyone know what website this press conference thing is on? Im not finding anything about it except from you guys.

[BigDaddyCool]

I'm distressed, gah dammit.

Don't worry about it. We are all distressed. I was trying to lighten the mood.

*Throws ape shit at Darth*

[Arnold HamNegger]

While updating their coverage of the Benoit family tragedy, the Atlanta-Journal Constitution has posted a report that Nancy Benoit filed for divorce and an order of protection from Chris Benoit in May 2003.

Nancy Benoit alleged in the divorce petition that Chris, "lost his temper and threatened to strike the petitioner and cause extensive damage to the home and personal belongings of the parties, including furniture and furnishings. Petitioner is in reasonable fear for petitioner's own safety and that of the minor child."

This prompted the judge to issue a restraining order on Chris Benoit from entering their family home. In August 2003, his wife Nancy requested that the petition be dismissed. The couple later reconciled and celebrated Benoit’s WWE World Heavyweight Championship win at WrestleMania 20 in the ring together.

Well, there we go. That's at least something.

[IC Champion]

Lets look at things from another angle. Chris was a work-a-holic. It is fairly obivous. But not just that, he is a work-a-holic in a fake sport. I'm not saying that makes one crazy...alls I'm saying is that makes me question sanity. Especially when you look at how hard Benoit trained to put on fake matches.
Some people are just hard workers, and are dedicated to whatever there job is.

[St. Jimmy]

Does anyone know what website this press conference thing is on? Im not finding anything about it except from you guys.

I'm Guessing MSNBC, FOX News, and CNN will carry it. ESPECIALLY CNN, since to them is Psuedo-Local.

[Theo Dious]

Especially when you look at how hard Benoit trained to put on fake matches.

That's a point. Work your ass off day in and day out, push your body to its limits, literally break your neck for the company, and then watch Mark Henry in the main event while you are stuck in backstage skits timing your pissings while working a midcard program with a guy that they plan on handing a "bixesual love triangle" gimmick to. That would fuck with anyones head.

[Mooияakeя™]

Tho I'm not American, I don't know if this is a decent source, but nothing is on the news over here, but they say it may have been via "roid rage"

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/06/26/wrestler_reportedly_killed_family_self/

[Mercury Bullet]

Being quiet and a loner is different being socially withdrawn. He works in a business where it is impossible to be socially withdrawn. What I want to know, if maybe in the past month or so, did he become socially withdrawn? Ya know, he was always kinda quiet, but then he got to where he wouldn't even talk to his closest friends. Maybe he stopped changing in the dressing room with everybody. Didn't travel with anybody else, that sort of thing.

[datghettoplaya]

That's the second time I've heard his name, what does he have to do with this?

Kevin Sullivan at the time in wcw booked an angle where Benoit and Woman (Benoit's wife, Nancy) got together and were involved in an affair. (Sullivan and Woman were together). However, the storylined actually turned real when Benoit actually DID have an affair with Nancy, and the two wound up getting together and staying together.

This is a very sad day btw, i haven't got a chance to add my two cents on this fourm...but i just cant believe it :(

[Arnold HamNegger]

Hmm, well there's some history that could shed some light on it. So he has had some anger issues before that have led to him threatening violence against his wife. It's a big jump from threats of violence straight to murder though.

Yeah, no kidding...and it took 4 years too.

[KingofOldSchool]

Hmm, well there's some history that could shed some light on it. So he has had some anger issues before that have led to him threatening violence against his wife. It's a big jump from threats of violence straight to murder though.

Well there's been a 4 year time frame.

Do you realize how many times Benoit could've actually beaten on Nancy in that time and ontop of that, she probably didn't report in fear of her and Daniel's safety?

[BigDaddyCool]

Not the furniture. That son of a bitch. I'm pissed now. :mad:

Not the Moss Covered Three Handled Family Gredunza! That was a gift from Perry!

to soon?

[Mooияakeя™]

So it was roid rage then maybe?

[Mercury Bullet]

Yeh but she took steps against him on threats of violence, certainly she would have done the same in the event of actual violence occuring.

[BigDaddyCool]

Snape killed Benoit.

[KingofOldSchool]

PWTorch.com has learned that one major media entity has received an email purporting to be from a friend of the Chris Benoit extended family saying that Benoit accidentally killed his wife in a domestic argument, then panicked and killed his son later so his son could be with his mother rather than grow up without a mom and knowing his father as a murderer.

[Arnold HamNegger]

Being quiet and a loner is different being socially withdrawn. He works in a business where it is impossible to be socially withdrawn. What I want to know, if maybe in the past month or so, did he become socially withdrawn? Ya know, he was always kinda quiet, but then he got to where he wouldn't even talk to his closest friends. Maybe he stopped changing in the dressing room with everybody. Didn't travel with anybody else, that sort of thing.

Yeah, I wonder if anyone did notice a change like this recently and just thought something like, "Oh, he must just be pissed about being moved to ECW."

You know every single one of them is gonna think back to try and see if there was anything they could have done...any behaviors they should have spoke up about. Still though, you can never anticipate something like this happening. Especially to someone that you've known for that length of time and spend so much time with on the road and stuff. That's the truly scary part to me.

[Mercury Bullet]

This makes me believe it wasn't roid rage...

Several reports have said that nothing was out of place in the home, everything seemed very ordinary. So in the fit of a roid rage he broke nothing in the home, didn't beat either of them, he simply strangled and or smothered them.

[Theo Dious]

Snape killed Benoit.

I trust Severus Snape, god dammit. :rant:

[RP]

If its roid rage then Pro Wrestling may die and sports will be turned upside down. There'll be an investigation into things like who was Benoits dealer or distributer. And when they turn over a few of those stones, i'm sure more things will come out. More names. Sports star names.

[KingofOldSchool]

Yeh but she took steps against him on threats of violence, certainly she would have done the same in the event of actual violence occuring.

You can't always assume that just because she reported a threat, that she'd end up reporting anything else that might have happened.

[Theo Dious]

Well there's been a 4 year time frame.

Do you realize how many times Benoit could've actually beaten on Nancy in that time and ontop of that, she probably didn't report in fear of her and Daniel's safety?

Right, when Benoit is on the road far, far from home most of the year?

[KingofOldSchool]

Bret Hart speaks on Benoit's death


From The Calgary Sun:

Members of the Hart family wrestled with the sudden, tragic death of Chris Benoit yesterday.

Legendary wrestler Bret Hart had to stop and compose himself often when talking fondly of a man considered his brother and friend.

"I don't know the details, and I'm not sure I even want to know," said Hart, just hours after learning of the discovery of Benoit's body -- along with those of his wife and son -- in his suburban Atlanta home.

"He was like a family member to me, and everyone in my family is taking it real hard.

"It's almost like reliving the whole Owen (Hart) death over again."

At a young age, Benoit, an Edmonton native, became a standout among many wrestling prospects who trained in the famed 'dungeon' basement of the Hart family's home in Calgary.

"Chris was always one of the good guys -- a straight guy and a hard-working guy," Hart said.

"When you list off all the qualities of someone like Benoit, he had a lot of integrity and was a good, family man."

"He was really respected and really loved by everybody."

[BigDaddyCool]

I trust Severus Snape, god dammit. :rant:

lol...I do too.

[KingofOldSchool]

Right, when Benoit is on the road far, far from home most of the year?

Right, "most" is the keyword.

Over the span of 4 years, with the problems they've been reportedly having over the years. It only takes one threat of violence to lead to only one act of violence. It didn't have to happen 3 months after the initial incident in 2003. It could've boiled over into 2006.

Remember? Benoit was out for a while last year. Plenty of time at home with the wife.

[RP]

Maybe she wouldnt submit.

[Mercury Bullet]

I mean, he definately could have been beating her and/or their son. But if she took a stand against threats alone logically I would think she would do it if violence actually occured. BUT, that is still an assumption and not necessarily the case...

[Theo Dious]

Let's not fall into the "helpless battered woman" trap here. Does she look like a weakling to you? I'm not saying Benoit couldn't overpower her on his worst day, but she does not strike me as a cowering helpless sort.

[Blitz]

Anyone know if the press conference is televised? Or is it on wwe.com?

[Mercury Bullet]

Let's not fall into the "helpless battered woman" trap here. Does she look like a weakling to you? I'm not saying Benoit couldn't overpower her on his worst day, but she does not strike me as a cowering helpless sort.

Yeh I really dont think she was being abused. Like I said, she threatened to leave him and got a restraining order on threats of violence alone.

But, ya know, he might have threatened her again. And she might have responded with "That's it, i'm outta here." And he responed with "Oh no you're not".

[Theo Dious]

But, ya know, he might have threatened her again. And she might have responded with "That's it, i'm outta here." And he responed with "Oh no you're not".

Might have, yeah, and she might have slipped him hallucenogenic drugs that made him think she was the demon beast from the slime pits of the third moon of Squarnshellous Zeta come to kill him and his family. Until we at least have some kind of evidence of real abuse, I'm not jumping on that train.

[ttetf]

Benoit to me put the professional in professional wrestling. Hard work, class, actually earning his title shots, willing to work with AND PUT OVER the younger guys...

These events just go to show you how little we know of these men and women we spend countless hours watching and conversing about.

Although nothing has been ruled or finalized yet, everything so far looks pretty damning on Chris Benoit. The murder of his son is what makes this such an atrocity. Terrible. Fucking terrible.

I guess in the end it comes down to three people losing their life and a wrestling legacy likely being completely dismissed by history. Forget the Hall of Fame. Forget tearful wrestlers pointing to the sky wearing black armbands. Forget it all. Chris Benoit destroyed 22 years in 2 days and boiled his entire career down from what would have been pages upon pages of glowing reviews to one sentence: "the wrestler who killed his family and himself." Perhaps that seems too rough. Time will tell.

Just sucks to see someone you thought so right turn so wrong...

[Arnold HamNegger]

That's a point. Work your ass off day in and day out, push your body to its limits, literally break your neck for the company, and then watch Mark Henry in the main event while you are stuck in backstage skits timing your pissings while working a midcard program with a guy that they plan on handing a "bixesual love triangle" gimmick to. That would fuck with anyones head.

Yeah, I know people always argue that wrestlers don't mind there standing in the company if they get a fat paycheck...but I think that's bullshit. These guys are competitive as hell by nature, all professional athletes are. If I'm getting $1 million a year, but am a bench warmer to a guy that I know in my heart I'm better than, it's gonna effect me eventually.

If often wondered what the mental state of mind of some of these wrestlers are when they bust there ass, yet politics get in the way of them getting the limelight/push/promotions they feel they deserve. This happens in jobs all over the world and people do end up doing awful things.

Who knows, maybe the demotion to ECW was the last straw for him? The timing of all this is pretty ironic. Still though, if it was work related...you'd think he would have killed someone in WWE...not his wife and kid. None of this makes any sense, so who knows? Noone will probably ever know what his motives were.

[BigDaddyCool]

Maybe she wouldnt submit.

God you are a jackass.

[KingofOldSchool]

Even the strongest woman or even man, can grow weak when it comes threats when it comes from someone they love. Especially if the person has been given a sense of security and comfort for years, they know they should do something about the predictiment they are in, but they love the person too much to leave them like that.

Sometimes, unfortunately, it really is "until death do us part."

[St. Jimmy]

Next person to say "Canadian Strangler" Chris Benoit, is going to be beaten.

[Jeritron]

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Normally in these situations it happens in a fit of rage quickly and with no organization, and then immediately panic sets in and the suicide occurs. This was a 3 day weekend of terror. I've said it a million times, but its like something out of The Shining. It's absolutely terrifying. It was pure evil and insanity and just sheer terror to be honest. It's sickening.
I don't know what to say, maybe Chris Benoit was or lived as a good man. But he had it within him to do this, and he did it. Theres no shortcuts around it.
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[Theo Dious]

Next person to say "Canadian Strangler" Chris Benoit, is going to be beaten.

...has ANYONE said it? :wtf:

[Extreme Angle]

So how did he actually kill himself?

[RP]

Next person to say "Canadian Strangler" Chris Benoit, is going to be beaten.


:lol:

[Theo Dious]

Why do I see all this turning into a Law and Order plotline?

[Azriel]

Blitz, I'm sure it's going to be on CNN and MSNBC, etc.

[St. Jimmy]

...has ANYONE said it? :wtf:

Not here man, other places.

[Kane Knight]

ATLANTA (AP) -- Pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife and smothered his son before hanging himself in his weight room, a law enforcement official close to the investigation told The Associated Press Tuesday.
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Fuck wikipedia.

[Theo Dious]

Well this is the only place that matters!

[Mercury Bullet]

Anyway, I really wish they'd hurry with the investigation ASAP.

My final speculation is that for whatever reason the wife was premeditated. He killed her Saturday and stashed her upstairs waiting to dump the body. Acted calm and normal around his son and everybody else. Sunday, panic set in, didn't know what to do, maybe the son discovered the mothers body? I dont think so but by Sunday evening Chris knew he couldn't get away with it and rather than going to jail he took his own life, and the life of his son so that his son wouldn't wake up to his parent's corpses.

[Jeritron]

I'm just so disgusted. Anything with Chris Benoit that I had is sitting in my trash can right now. I wish I could delete his matches and likeness from my dvds....

I don't think I'm being rash either...

[Marc the Smark]

"The Crippler," "The Rabid Wolverine" - Such creepy names considering all that's gone down, huh?

[Destor]

I still love Benoit.

[Theo Dious]

I'm just so disgusted. Anything with Chris Benoit that I had is sitting in my trash can right now. I wish I could delete his matches and likeness from my dvds....

I don't think I'm being rash either...

Throwing people under the bus: the new American pasttime.

Can we PLEASE wait for some actual confirmation instead of just stupid media leaks?!

[Marc the Smark]

My final speculation is that for whatever reason the wife was premeditated. He killed her Saturday and stashed her upstairs waiting to dump the body.

Maybe roid rage, maybe she wanted another divorce, maybe both... but whatever the reason he flipped out.

but by Sunday evening Chris knew he couldn't get away with it and rather than going to jail he took his own life, and the life of his son so that his son wouldn't wake up to his parent's corpses.

But did he take the son's life so that the son wouldn't have to live without parents, or did he take the son's life so that the son could not turn him into the police?

[St. Jimmy]

Benoit the wrestler is an amazing man. Beniot the human... well, I don't respect those who die of suicide, especially alleged murderers of women and children.

[KingofOldSchool]

Chris Benoit's here and he's really mad.
Chris Benoit's here and he's really aaannngrrryy.
Here's his song, the Chris Benoit song.
Is there anyone who can prove him wrrrooonng?

[Jeritron]

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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Throwing people under the bus: the new American pasttime.

Can we PLEASE wait for some actual confirmation instead of just stupid media leaks?!

You know, I'll wait and hold off my anger til it's announced in the next hour or so. But stop convincing yourself that this all isn't happen. Reality should set in at some point. It has for me.

[Cactus Sid]

Chris Benoit's here and he's really mad.
Chris Benoit's here and he's really aaannngrrryy.
Here's his song, the Chris Benoit song.
Is there anyone who can prove him wrrrooonng?

Ah, a mate of mine rang me up earlier and started saying that

Odd, because earlier I was thinking of exactly the same thing :-\

[Arnold HamNegger]

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Normally in these situations it happens in a fit of rage quickly and with no organization, and then immediately panic sets in and the suicide occurs. This was a 3 day weekend of terror. I've said it a million times, but its like something out of The Shining. It's absolutely terrifying. It was pure evil and insanity and just sheer terror to be honest. It's sickening.
I don't know what to say, maybe Chris Benoit was or lived as a good man. But he had it within him to do this, and he did it. Theres no shortcuts around it.
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Yeah, this is totally like something out of The Shining.

[KingofOldSchool]

Okay seriously, the sheriff said the investigators found "nothing out of the ordinary."

Sooo wouldn't that rule out Benoit hanging himself?

I mean surely you walk into a weight room and see a guy hanging from a rope lifeless, you immediately think "oh nothing major here, just a dead guy hanging from a rope."

[BigDaddyCool]

Benoit the wrestler is an amazing man. Beniot the human... well, I don't respect those who die of suicide, especially alleged murderers of women and children.

Fuck that shit. Killing women and children is nothing compared to killing your wife and your child.

[Marc the Smark]

Do we know for sure that the murder of Nancy Benoit and her son was pre-meditated? Do we know what Benoit, who always gave 110 percent to entertain us and feed his family, was thinking when he committed the murders? I agree that his actions were despicable, but obviously a guy who would kill his own flesh and blood is also a sick, sick man. I just don't think it's black and white, like most of you seem to think, and I don't think hating what he did should mean that we have to hate Chris Benoit the person.

[St. Jimmy]

Fuck that shit. Killing women and children is nothing compared to killing your wife and your child.

I'm trying not to judge until it's official. I'm really trying.

[Theo Dious]

You know, I'll wait and hold off my anger til it's announced in the next hour or so. But stop convincing yourself that this all isn't happen. Reality should set in at some point. It has for me.


In another hour we'll have official statements from police on what happened, how, and maybe why. It seems to me that we're missing a vital piece here to understand what happened, no matter which way it turns out. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I'm just saying I want to know more than this before I fling anything I have with Benoit on it out the window.

[BigDaddyCool]

Okay seriously, the sheriff said the investigators found "nothing out of the ordinary."

Sooo wouldn't that rule out Benoit hanging himself?

I mean surely you walk into a weight room and see a guy hanging from a rope lifeless, you immediately think "oh nothing major here, just a dead guy hanging from a rope."

Totally oridnary.

[Theo Dious]

Do we know for sure that the murder of Nancy Benoit and her son was pre-meditated? Do we know what Benoit, who always gave 110 percent to entertain us and feed his family, was thinking when he committed the murders? I agree that his actions were despicable, but obviously a guy who would kill his own flesh and blood is also a sick, sick man. I just don't think it's black and white, like most of you seem to think, and I don't think hating what he did should mean that we have to hate Chris Benoit the person.

Yeah, what the guy in the skirt said.
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[Jeritron]

Look, I hope this isn't true as much as the next guy. But at some point you gotta stop deluding ourselves. Chris Benoit had 5 star matches, Chris Benoit was a hero to all of us, Chris Benoit killed his family over a 3 day period of madness. Chris Benoit sucks.

If you can get past that because you don't want to part with the image of your idol, or you don't want the matches you watch all the time ruined, then lie to yourselves or rationalize. Thats your own decisions. But at some point reality steps in. It's absolutely dispicable. Chris Benoit still a legend? Tell that to his 7 year old son who will never experience life, and to everyone who thought they knew and loved him

I want to be pinched and wake up, but some nightmares are real and this is one of them

[RP]

CNN is taking the conference live when it happens for those still wondering.

[Kane Knight]

I'm just so disgusted. Anything with Chris Benoit that I had is sitting in my trash can right now. I wish I could delete his matches and likeness from my dvds....

I don't think I'm being rash either...

:roff:

[Theo Dious]

Look, I hope this isn't true as much as the next guy. But at some point you gotta stop deluding ourselves. Chris Benoit had 5 star matches, Chris Benoit was a hero to all of us, Chris Benoit killed his family over a 3 day period of madness. Chris Benoit sucks.

So if it turns out he was suffering from some form of mental illness that completely impaired his sense of reality, you still will pronounce the man and his life and doings completely worthless?

[BigDaddyCool]

Look, I hope this isn't true as much as the next guy. But at some point you gotta stop deluding ourselves. Chris Benoit had 5 star matches, Chris Benoit was a hero to all of us, Chris Benoit killed his family over a 3 day period of madness. Chris Benoit sucks.

If you can get past that because you don't want to part with the image of your idol, or you don't want the matches you watch all the time ruined, then lie to yourselves or rationalize. Thats your own decisions. But at some point reality steps in. It's absolutely dispicable. Chris Benoit still a legend? Tell that to his 7 year old son who will never experience life, and to everyone who thought they knew and loved him

I want to be pinched and wake up, but some nightmares are real and this is one of them

He wasn't my hero. How many times do I have to say that. Don't speak for everyone is you are not everyone.

[Cactus Sid]

Just read this, don't know if this was posted previously, if it is I apologise, it is a statement from district attorney's office.

Yesterday afternoon at 2:30 pm, the Fayette County Sheriff’s Office received a call from someone affiliated with the wrestling community concerned with Chris Benoit and the fact that he had not appeared for a scheduled event. In response to that call the Fayette County Deputies went to the residence located at 130 Green Meadow Lane in Fayette County and discovered three deceased bodies, Chris Benoit, Nancy Benoit and their 7 year old son.

All preliminary indications suggest that it was a murder/suicide. Out of an abundance of caution every possible scenario is under investigation.

Details concerning the manner of death and times and other details will require confirmation of the lab results and the completion of the autopsies. Our hope is that the autopsy reports will be complete today. The GBI Crime Lab is working diligently on this case but do have many other cases as well.

At this time a press conference has been scheduled for this afternoon at 3:00 pm eastern time in front of the Benoit home.

I don't know what information has officially been released since this, obviously the indications are still very much that of a murder-suicide, but until this is confirmed by the investigative bodies, its not an open and shut case.

[The Ravishing One]

Sky Sports News is broadcasting the press conference for anybody in the UK @ 8pm.

[Theo Dious]

At this time a press conference has been scheduled for this afternoon at 3:00 pm eastern time in front of the Benoit home.

I hope they left the dogs there, I'd love to see some CNN news hack get the seat of his pants ripped off by a German Shepherd. :rofl:

[Marc the Smark]

Do we know for sure that the murder of Nancy Benoit and her son was pre-meditated? Do we know what Benoit, who always gave 110 percent to entertain us and feed his family, was thinking when he committed the murders?

[Cactus Sid]

Any idea where this might be streamed online? I've got CNN but its CNN International....

[Blue Demon]

This is all over CNN right now

[SammyG]

On the front page of msn, it's reported that the official ruling has been that he strangled his wife, smothered his kid a day later, then hung himself in his weight room.

[Rammsteinmad]

I came home this morning from work and was all happy etc as expected. I got into bed and turned my laptop on... am I getting wireless internet from the guy down the road? Nope... no connection right now. No problem I thought. I'll just go to sleep and try again later.

Just then I received to this point probably the most shocking, saddening text message I've ever been sent. My friend texted me with the chilling words: "Dude, Chris Benoit has died".

I jumped out of bed and rushed to my mums computer and had to see if this was true. I sat there for about an hour reading all the posts here, and constantly refreshing WWE.com, hoping for updates.

Anyone that knows me personally, or as a poster, knows that Chris Benoit was my favourite wrestler of all time, ever. Period. I've worshiped the guy for so many years it's unbelieveable. He could literally come to the ring, fart in a paper bag and pop it in his opponents face and I would have called it a five-star technical masterpiece.

Right now I'm still in shock. I couldn't even bring myself to cry because I'm just so numb with shock right now. All day I've been depressed and have been repeating in my head "Chris Benoit is dead". It's just so unreal. Ever since Eddie died, I've always wondered how it would feel when Benoit dies... I just never expected to be discussing it now... so soon.

I'm not here to make assumptions or speculate what happened. Did Benoit kill his son? Did he kill his wife? Did his wife kill them both? Was it a gas leak? I don't know, and I'm not going to come to conclusions until the truth is out. Right now, I'm sad because one of my heroes is no longer with us.

And if he did kill his family? What then? My respect for him will go down, but I'll still idolise him for what he's given us for the past 20 years.

Proven guilty or not, Benoit always has been, and always will be my favourite wrestler.

To Chris Benoit. Thank you for the memories. Thank you for the tears. Thank you for the inspiration.

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[Linkbowler]

MSNBC will have the press conference live.

[D Mac]

This was on the front page of CNN:

Authorities also said they are investigating whether steroids may have been a factor in the deaths.

[SammyG]

Turn on CNN, press conference starts in 1 minute. The reporter said they have some very gruesome details.

[Jeritron]

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[Marc the Smark]

Nobody's answered me... I wonder if the murders and suicide were pre-meditated or not. I wonder if Benoit had planned to kill his wife and son, or if he just "snapped." I wonder what Benoit was thinking when he killed his son. I wonder if he was afraid that the son would turn him in, or if he didn't want the son to grow up without a mother and father.

[Innovator]

Everyone turn on CNN now

[ford fairlane]

Something has been nagging away at me.If the roster had an idea that chris killed his wife and son,Why would cena edge and chavo all say they love/loved him.

[RP]

who is this hot bitch doing the weather. I want to bang her. She said she expects 10 inches.

[Marc the Smark]

Something has been nagging away at me.If the roster had an idea that chris killed his wife and son,Why would cena edge and chavo all say they love/loved him.

Because, contrary to what all of you think, nothing if anything in life is black and white.

[SammyG]

Press conference starting any minute.

[Jeritron]

Nobody's answered me... I wonder if the murders and suicide were pre-meditated or not. I wonder if Benoit had planned to kill his wife and son, or if he just "snapped." I wonder what Benoit was thinking when he killed his son. I wonder if he was afraid that the son would turn him in, or if he didn't want the son to grow up without a mother and father.

I'm not Sigmund fuckin Frued, but I don't know of too many "snapcases" that fly home, kill their wife and son over a 72 hour period while remaining seemingly calm and calling into work.

"You don't snap over a 3 day weekend" - Kalyx

[SammyG]

lol RP

[Kane Knight]

Do we know for sure that the murder of Nancy Benoit and her son was pre-meditated? Do we know what Benoit, who always gave 110 percent to entertain us and feed his family, was thinking when he committed the murders?

Yes. And I am digusted!

[D Mac]

Any idea where this might be streamed online? I've got CNN but its CNN International....

CNN.com has live feed. But you have to subscribe. :mad:

[Felipewcw]

Regardless if he killed his family they would still love him, they just probably wish he would have sought help or something.

[BigDaddyCool]

Something has been nagging away at me.If the roster had an idea that chris killed his wife and son,Why would cena edge and chavo all say they love/loved him.

Because they were still coming to grips with what just happened. And it is hard to throw away a 20+ year relationship away in just a day.

[Shaggy]

yea im watching CNN...they keep on saying its coming up but all they are talking about right now is the Oklahoma floods...Paris Hilton getting out of jail...and then everyone few minutes updating the Benoit situation

[Astley316]

For anyone intrested in the UK, the Atlanta Police press confrence into the death, is on sky sports news, starting any minute now

[Marc the Smark]

OK, I can see that the murder of Nancy Benoit was pre-meditated, but maybe the murder of their little boy wasn't. Maybe in Benoit's mind, the boy was better off in heaven with him than left behind with no parents. Maybe Benoit really thought, in his sick mind, that taking the boy's life was an act of mercy. Isn't it possible that Benoit believed that?? Or, do you think he killed the kid just so there wouldn't be anyone to tell police what happened? Of course that's very possible too. What are your thoughts about that?

[RP]

sweet the hot weather lady is back.

[SammyG]

Yeah I know, it's bullshit. Meh, should start any minute now. I doubt we hear anything too bizarre. It's what we have heard probably.

[Kane Knight]

Something has been nagging away at me.If the roster had an idea that chris killed his wife and son,Why would cena edge and chavo all say they love/loved him.

Either A) They didn't know, or B) They're human, and he was a friend?

[Innovator]

the weather girl is pretty hot.

[6to1]

yea you in the uk will get it the same time we do

[Theo Dious]

So, yeah, the Fox News live feed has a continuous picture of the front gate...

[Felipewcw]

For those who want to see it live go to www.yahoo.com, it's free and it seems to be working.

[SammyG]

For FUCK's sake, start it already.

[6to1]

here we go

[SammyG]

It's started, just now.

[SammyG]

Yup. Strangled his wife, a day later strangled his kid, then saturday evening or sunday, hung himself in the basement.

[Theo Dious]

Fuck, when did Benoit have a DUI?

[St. Jimmy]

He killed Nancy on a friday, and then Danial on saturday.... wow... He talked to people (using their timeline) after he killed his family.

[St. Jimmy]

I am in complete disbelief.

[Theo Dious]

Holy "very little that we didn't already know," Batman.

[Paranoid Rattlesnake]

Yup. Strangled his wife, a day later strangled his kid, then saturday evening or sunday, hung himself in the basement.

That is one seriously tormented man, WHY CHRIS WHY

[Theo Dious]

God I hate reporters.

[SammyG]

I'm not. Fuck Chris Benoit. They found steroids too.

[Azriel]

This is really f*ing bizarre, and how do they know HE killed them? Were his fingerprints found on his wife, etc?

[Innovator]

A Bible found next to each body?

Nancy bound my her feet, blood next to her

[Theo Dious]

Bibles? Shit, that's... wierd.

[St. Jimmy]

... This is disgusting, I just can't do this. I can't.

[Theo Dious]

So fuck, he tied her up first and then strangled her. Fuck.

[IC Champion]

He has some serious issues.

[SammyG]

what the fucking fuck Benoit. Fuck you Chris Benoit, you sick fuck.

[Innovator]

Left Nancy's body downstairs in the family room........

Wait I don't get it, how could he get text someone Sunday if he was dead on Saturday?

[Innovator]

Ridiculous.....fucking absurd, horrible.

[SammyG]

That Bible shit is creeping me out. Enough of this shit. I can't believe I actually teared up during the tribute show. I shoulda refused to watch it.

[Londoner]

Fuck you benoit. Fuck steroids.

[BigDaddyCool]

Why is the bible "shit" creeping people out. It is interesting he would do that, but I don't blame him.

[RP]

They said she was bound by her hands and feet. He must have really snapped.

[IC Champion]

He completely lost it.

[Jordan]

Man you people are fucking nuts too, calm down, all you knew was a character, nobody knew the real Chris Benoit. The tragedy is not his it's the murder of his family, thank god he put himself out so we didn't have to deal with any b/s. Sorry if I am coming across bad but it's hard to speak on obviously.

I really wish WWE wouldn't have canceled Raw, that made them seem really weak, and now it turns out they canceled for a murderer, man that sucks.

[Marc the Smark]

They said she was bound by her hands and feet. He must have really snapped.

Well obviously... But we still don't know why he killed his son.

And both Nancy and Daniel were both asphyxiated, right? Some people said earlier that she was strangled.

[Jordan]

He did break Sabu's neck, that could have been a pre cursor to this past weekends events... Chris THE CRIPPLE KILLER Benoit

[Azriel]

Is this the end of the WWE as we know it, even professional wrestling?

[BigDaddyCool]

Man you people are fucking nuts too, calm down, all you knew was a character, nobody knew the real Chris Benoit. The tragedy is not his it's the murder of his family, thank god he put himself out so we didn't have to deal with any b/s. Sorry if I am coming across bad but it's hard to speak on obviously.

I really wish WWE wouldn't have canceled Raw, that made them seem really weak, and now it turns out they canceled for a murderer, man that sucks.

Shut up. They did the right thing by cancelling.

[Innovator]

How the fuck can you harm your own son, let alone kill him? Thats what I can't get over.

[Loose Cannon]

wow, this is insane. like it isn't even real

[Marc the Smark]

How the fuck can you harm your own son, let alone kill him? Thats what I can't get over.

Anything's possible when you're fucked up in the head.

Either Benoit was afraid that the son would turn him in, or he really believed the son was better off dead.

[BigDaddyCool]

Is this the end of the WWE as we know it, even professional wrestling?

No

[Theo Dious]

I really wish WWE wouldn't have canceled Raw, that made them seem really weak, and now it turns out they canceled for a murderer, man that sucks.

They had a couple hours to work with, and not the whole story. You want to force a bunch of guys that just heard THAT about a FRIEND of theirs to go out and perform? Fuck you.

[Skippord]

I bet there is some sort of message in the bibles

[Cactus Sid]

Well obviously... But we still don't know why he killed his son.

And both Nancy and Daniel were both asphyxiated, right? Some people said earlier that she was strangled.

Same thing in this instance

Would point out that not everything that has come out earlier has been correct, all that needs to be known so far is what was confirmed, nothing else and everyone should stick to that until more is uncovered.

[alvarado52]

Like, i dont know much about the whole 'roid rage' thing, but does it just cause all out insanity? I always thought it was like, 'temporary outburst' type of thing. Dunno, but i mean, killing his wife and child on two seperate days, and hanging around the house almost the whole time seems like straight up insanity than any sort of 'rage'

[Marc the Smark]

Same thing in this instance

I don't understand... Was Nancy bounded then suffocated?

Would point out that not everything that has come out earlier has been correct, all that needs to be known so far is what was confirmed, nothing else and everyone should stick to that until more is uncovered.

Do you work for the FBI?

Someone also said earlier that the text messages were sent during the ppv, and that's false.

[Cactus Sid]

Actually, did they confirm what the murder weapons were or if he did strangle them? I know one cause of death is Asphyxia by Strangulation, but I just read something about a cord and a bag, I missed the start of the press conference, so was that the cause?

[KingofOldSchool]

Can someone get me the video of the press conference?

[Marc the Smark]

Press Conference Recap:

http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/pbp/ViewCoverage.php?id=1/1786

[Impeccable]

Actually, did they confirm what the murder weapons were or if he did strangle them? I know one cause of death is Asphyxia by Strangulation, but I just read something about a cord and a bag, I missed the start of the press conference, so was that the cause?

All they would elaborate on is the asphyxiation. Nancy was bound by hands and feet and wrapped in a towel. Benoit hung himself with weight cord in his basement/gym.

[ford fairlane]

Taken from pro wrestler boards

A press conference was held this afternoon to inform the media of the latest findings in the investigation of the deaths of Chris Benoit, his wife Nancy Benoit and their son Daniel. Here is information from the press conference, which was held outside of the Benoit home in Fayetteville, Georgia.

Sheriffs Lieutenant Tommy Pope spoke first.

- He discussed how authorities had received a phone call from WWE at 2:30pm yesterday out of concern when they couldn't get in touch with him. The police searched the Benoit home and discovered the three bodies. At this point, the autopsy has been completed and the investigators are ruling this a double homicide and suicide.

- Going by reports from the medical examiner, it is believed by investigators that Benoit asphyxiated his wife, possibly as early as Friday, then asphyxiated his son on Saturday. Both deaths are currently being ruled as death by asphyxiation. Then it is believed that late Saturday or early Sunday, Benoit hung himself. Pope stated that is was several hours, but no more than a day, between the time of Daniel's death and the time that Benoit hung himself. Toxicology reports are still being worked on, but that is the findings of the investigators at this time.

- There was no suicide note found in the home.

- Daniel Benoit was located in his bedroom, Nancy Benoit was located in an office area, both in the upstairs part of the house.

- Pope said they would not discuss any possible motives for Benoit's actions at this time. Pope also said that they were not able to determine his state of mind as a result of investigating the crime scene.

- When asked if Benoit had an arrest record, Pope noted he had been arrested once on an DUI, but in their jurisdiction they had no knowledge of any arrests or any record of domestic violence. He had no knowledge of any divorce filings.

- Pope stated that there was a lot of prescription medication, which they believe was all legally prescribed. He did not have a full list of drugs, but when pressed by the media, Pope stated that there was anabolic steroids. He noted that there was a prescription for them.

- Pope stated that Benoit did send a text message to a "co-worker" during the weekend, who received it several hours after it was sent. Pope would not disclose the contents of the message or who it was sent to.

District Attorney Scott Ballard then fielded questions from the media.

- Regarding a comment Ballard had made about the deaths being "bizarre", Ballard said that he felt the presumed timing of the deaths of the victims and the suicide was bizarre, as it would mean that Benoit was in the home for several hours with the dead bodies.

- There was a bible placed next to the body of Nancy and a bible next to the body of Daniel. There was no bible found in the room where Benoit hung himself.

- Nancy Benoit was bound around her feet and her wrists (Ballard seemed unsure about the wrists at first), and blood was found under her head. She was clothed, but wrapped in a towel in an office area in the upstairs part of the house.

- Daniel Benoit's body was found in his bed, he was clothed. His bedroom was also in the upstairs part of the home.

- Benoit's body was found in a weight room in the basement of the home. He had hung himself using the cable and pulley system on an exercise machine.

- Ballard reiterated that the autopsy reports indicate that Nancy Benoit was killed on Friday, Daniel Benoit on Saturday morning, and that it is believed Benoit died later Saturday, possibly Sunday.

- The subject of Benoit calling WWE this weekend and informing them that he had to miss the shows due to a family emergency was brought up. Ballard said was not aware of what Benoit claimed the family emergency was.

- Ballard said he had not seen the documents, but noted he had been informed of the order of protection that Nancy Benoit had filed for, but later asked to be rescinded several years ago.

- Ballard noted that toxicology reports will take time, but these are their conclusions to date.

- Ballard did not know if there were firearms in the house.

That ended the press conference, and it was noted that investigators were still at work in the Benoit house.

[Marc the Smark]

Were Nancy and Daniel strangled with bare hands? Maybe Benoit used the towel that was wrapped around Nancy? And maybe the bed sheets for the boy? Has any of that been addressed?

[Paranoid Rattlesnake]

Man you people are fucking nuts too, calm down, all you knew was a character, nobody knew the real Chris Benoit. The tragedy is not his it's the murder of his family, thank god he put himself out so we didn't have to deal with any b/s. Sorry if I am coming across bad but it's hard to speak on obviously.

I really wish WWE wouldn't have canceled Raw, that made them seem really weak, and now it turns out they canceled for a murderer, man that sucks.

Sadly nobody is blessed enough to be able to see into the future

[Mercury Bullet]

Asphyxiation is just a term for death through some sort of suffocation. Could be strangled, smothered, choke on a hot dog, etc...I wish they would have explained that a little clearer.

I wish they would hurry up and find out (or if they already know RELEASE) the information as to WHY this happened. All they know is it happened, but don't have any other real details.:-\

[Marc the Smark]

Asphyxiation is just a term for death through some sort of suffocation. Could be strangled, smothered, choke on a hot dog, etc...I wish they would have explained that a little clearer.

Thanks for explaining... they weren't, like you said, very clear about it.

[Mercury Bullet]

And fuckin' steroids of course. The government is going to go on a witch hunt and ravage through professional wrestling. It won't kill it but it is going to set it back quite a bit. And WWE is going to have to be extra conservative and on their toes about everything which in the long run may be the death of wrestling. As much as rating are struggling now and have been for a while...imagine if it gets exponentially tamer and more bland than it already is.:(

[Shaggy]

I am so mentally brain fucked fight now that I dont know what to think...While part of me is pissed that such a thing could happen its just hard to get it through my head that a guy that Ive looked up to all this time could do such a thing...

The one thing I really want to know more than anything right now is 1. Which Co-Worker the Text message went to...(my guess is either Edge or Dean Malenko from the way they were acting last night)...and 2. What the text message said?

Does anyone know if any of that info will ever be released to tbe public.

[Mercury Bullet]

And there is so many conflicting reports on the times...they announced in the press conferences this whole thing started Friday. Benoit missed a house show during the week, then allegedly contacted the WWE and said he would miss Vengeance. I don't get it. And supposedly he texted on Sunday but they say he likely died Saturday. They probably shouldn't have even had a press conference yet until they organized their information better.

[Mercury Bullet]

Yeh I wish they would come forward with exactly when he sent the messages, who they were sent to, and what they said. I dont know if they will release them, they probably won't if there is any personal details.

[Marc the Smark]

I'm confused.

It's believed that Benoit killed himself either late Saturday or early Sunday. I thought he was backstage at the ppv Sunday night and went home because of a "family emergency." And what's this about missing a house show?

[Mercury Bullet]

I'm sad that he is gone, angry he took his family with him, baffled as to why it all happened and seemingly without warning, and angry at him again for detail a destructive blow to professional wrestling.

[Mercury Bullet]

I'm confused.

It's believed that Benoit killed himself either late Saturday or early Sunday. I thought he was backstage at the ppv Sunday night and went home because of a "family emergency." And what's this about missing a house show?

He no-showed a house show earlier in the week. And from what I believe, he was never backstage at Vengeance, but contacted them saying he was going to be unable to make it due to personal reasons.

[Felipewcw]

I think the people who ran the press conferences aren't straight on their times as it conflicts with the test messages being sent / Benoit calling in saying he wouldn't make the weekend shows which at the same time other sources say he never called and besides the text messages were the reason WWE called the cops.

What a cluster fuck.

Regardless the biggest rumor going around right now is the text messages were to Chavo.

[Felipewcw]

You know, back in the day when I was way younger and obsessed with WCW and The Radicals left for the then WWF, I was like, "You guys suck, I hope you all die!"

2 out of 4 now, I didn't mean it though. :-(

Which brings up a good but off topic question, has anyone heard of Perry Saturn as of late?

[ford fairlane]

The whole text message thing is as stated a bit of a clusterfuck.
What they are saying is he sent the text late saturday early sunday before he killed himself,it then took about 12 hours or so for the text to be received.
And then a further what say twelve hours for the cops to go to his home.

[The Show Off]

I've always prided myself in being able to seprate the performer from the man.

Hearing that people like Triple H, Shawn Michaels, and Hulk Hogan are assholes outside of the ring, but when they are in the arena I like them...

As of right now I don't know if I can seprate Chris Benoit the wrestler from Chris Benoit the man. That is such a horrible thing in and of it self.

Their is no doubt in my mind that Chris Benoit went insane, to kill your sevben year old son you've gotta be insane, or just cold blooded.

It'll be awhile before I can watch a match with Chris Benoit in it again and not look at it with disdane. I greieve for Benoit's family that died, and I grieve from Benoit's family that now have to live with the fact that they man that they knew and loved could do such a dispicable... It'll be a long time before I can grieve for Chris Benoit, if ever.

[CSL]

<font color=white>Yeah, I'm gonna guess there wasn't a phone call Sunday. Saturday for the house show possibly.

And the Chavo rumour has been round all day (I think Meltzer reported it)</font>

[Shaggy]

Well there could of been the problem of not having a signal for a text message....

At my cousins house I have no signal...so any message that is sent to me while im there I dont get till im down the street.

If Benoit had no signal on his phone or perhaps the wrestler who he sent the message to didnt have a signal then he could of sent the message on Saturday but it wouldnt of been received till Sunday.

That solve the problem as to why the text was received after his death...

[Gone Mad]

CNN Headline News is gonna have an update in a half hour.

As I see all the reports on the news now, I still just can't believe. Why. What the hell is wrong with him? This is just too much, even though I just want to know more.

[Outsider]

Well there could of been the problem of not having a signal for a text message....

At my cousins house I have no signal...so any message that is sent to me while im there I dont get till im down the street.

If Benoit had no signal on his phone or perhaps the wrestler who he sent the message to didnt have a signal then he could of sent the message on Saturday but it wouldnt of been received till Sunday.

That solve the problem as to why the text was received after his death...

The HLR (Homeland Location Register) of his phone network will have details on when the message was sent as well as recieved, as well as where it was sent from. The police will be able to get that information.

[Fox]

There was obviously something very deep and troubling inside Chris Benoit. I think the losses of Owen and Eddie, among others, as well as the politics of the current state of WWE, and a seemingly troubled marriage, caused Benoit to snap.

We'll probably never know his real motive, unless he left some sort of message that surfaces later.

Right now I feel sorry for the people who were close to his family, and I grieve the loss of one of the best wrestlers of all time, and for this horrible tragedy.

[ford fairlane]

Well there could of been the problem of not having a signal for a text message....

At my cousins house I have no signal...so any message that is sent to me while im there I dont get till im down the street.

If Benoit had no signal on his phone or perhaps the wrestler who he sent the message to didnt have a signal then he could of sent the message on Saturday but it wouldnt of been received till Sunday.

That solve the problem as to why the text was received after his death...


No i understand that the recipient may not have had a signal to receive the text.
The point i was making was the timeline of it all.if any of the conjecture regarding the text message being recived during or before the ppv,why did wwe not inform the police sooner why did the police not go to his home till the next day.
Did people at wwe try to keep it in house for as long as possible.
I just find it strange as to why the big delay in receiving the text to them informing the police.

[Felipewcw]

I think the test messages will tell why he did it or at least serve as suicide notes / last goodbyes.

My guess is Nancy was going to leave him and take Daniel or reveal something terrible/incriminating about him, so he killed her to stop that and didn't want his son growing up living with what happened or having the memories of possibly seeing it happen. Chris knew what he did would mentally fuck up his kid and decided that killing him would be more merciful.

The bibles sort of representing hopes they would go to a better place because they had one next to their bodies but Benoit didn't kid himself as to where he was going since there wasn't one next to him.

Guess this is why when we see wrestlers on TV they are always referred to as "characters" because in the world of wrestling no matter what you see, even for decades, up on the screen can be worlds away from who those people are off camera.

Damn it Benoit.

[Mercury Bullet]

I really think him and his wife and been having big trouble recently, she was threatening to leave him and he decided to kill her. So he killed her and planned on disposing of her and getting away with it. I don't know if the kid found the body, or if Benoit just realized he was going to get caught. Either way, he gave up and killed the kid and then himself.

[Splaya]

BTW, after Eddie died, they said WWE was on a death watch, and everyone assumed it was for Angle. Do you think it was actaully Benoit now?

When I was showering tonight, that is exactly what I thought

[Killjoy3:16]

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/specialty_clips/eddie_tributes/r111405benoittest

[6to1]

i think it might have been roid rage, the da is on fox news now.

[RGWhat316]

This is all really f'd up. Since all of this appears to be true, something must have suddenly happened to cause all of this. Like his wife was cheating, or something of that nature and all of it just built up and he exploded. It's even more odd that tv has said there was no suicide note, so whatever happened, he doesn't want anyone to know. What a difference 24 hours can make.

[Jeritron]

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[Kane Knight]

Well there could of been the problem of not having a signal for a text message....

At my cousins house I have no signal...so any message that is sent to me while im there I dont get till im down the street.

If Benoit had no signal on his phone or perhaps the wrestler who he sent the message to didnt have a signal then he could of sent the message on Saturday but it wouldnt of been received till Sunday.

That solve the problem as to why the text was received after his death...

So he killed himself in a no signal zone. Gotcha. It's a good thing that his cell phone was one of those oens that grows legs after you kill yourself.

Or maybe, Chavo was in a dead zone for...A full day? Neither makes sense, and the carrier would still have times. Not to mention, even if Chavo got them Sunday, they'd still say they were sent Saturday if he were in the dead zone.

All in all, the only way they could have been sent after he died is one that is exceeedingly unlikely.

[XL]

In all my years on tpww I have always tried my hardest to form my own opinions on whatever matter no matter how serious or trivial.

However, at this time I feel the need for someone to tell me how to feel about Benoit.

This is sick, fucked up stuff but I don't agree with MB, i don't think it was palnned.

More that he attacked her in arage after she said she was leaving, he killed her, then realised what he'd done which sent him into a downward spiral.

He knew he's hav eto face the consequences and being a world reknown star this was not going to be easy. His guilt or fear of what was around the corner for him lead him to decide to commit suicide.

I cannot for the life of me understand why e would take the life of his 7 Year Old son. There are dozens of people who could have given Daniel a safe and secure upbringing. This is the point that makes me think he literally went nuts.

I thought for a moment there that maybe he'd killed Daniel firsta nd then when Nancy returned home to find what he had done (and wanted to go to the police) he snapped and tried to stop her, ending her life. That seems to make more sense to me (if not for the timeline we're being told)

I rambled more than I wanted to there. My main point is that I feel I need to be told how to feel about Benoit. So someone tell me, please.

[Jeritron]

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[Cactus Sid]

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This is what people have been talking about all day, the failure of everyone to seperate Chris Benoit the man from Chris Benoit the performer. None of us knew Chris Benoit the man, all we know are the general consequences surrounding his death and the very little that we have been told by the select few people who knew him.

Chris Benoit the performer should rightly go down as one of the greatest wrestlers to step into the ring, Chris Benoit the man should rightly be seen as an evil fuck who killed his family.

[RGWhat316]

I also have kind of a bad feeling that there is video footage of what happened. You would have to think that a house as big as Chris' had to have some security cameras in it. Unless he would have destroyed them, there is a chance there could be video footage.

[XL]

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I guess Jeritron gave me his answer before I even asked the question.

And at he moment that's the sentiment I'm leaning towards. :nono:

[Kalyx triaD]

Big house don't mean cameras.

[Mercury Bullet]

This is sick, fucked up stuff but I don't agree with MB, i don't think it was palnned.

More that he attacked her in arage after she said she was leaving, he killed her, then realised what he'd done which sent him into a downward spiral.

He knew he's hav eto face the consequences and being a world reknown star this was not going to be easy. His guilt or fear of what was around the corner for him lead him to decide to commit suicide.

I cannot for the life of me understand why e would take the life of his 7 Year Old son. There are dozens of people who could have given Daniel a safe and secure upbringing. This is the point that makes me think he literally went nuts.

I just dont see a rage of frenzy or fury like that lasting the course of 2 or 3 days. Now if he killed them at the same time, then maybe. But he killed her first, his son the next day, and then himself the day after that or possibly later in the same day as he killed his son.

And I agree about the son, I can't fathom doing that. Now, I can see reasoning for it, but I can't agree to it or find any sort of justification in it. Maybe he didnt want his son living with these kind of tortured memories or whatever, but still. Thats not his fucking choice to make and by that time, what, was he going to redeem himself or something by killing his son to spare him from a life of turmoil?

I just wish they would come out with all the information ASAP so we can put this to rest and start moving forward.

[Jeritron]

This is what people have been talking about all day, the failure of everyone to seperate Chris Benoit the man from Chris Benoit the performer. None of us knew Chris Benoit the man, all we know are the general consequences surrounding his death and the very little that we have been told by the select few people who knew him.

Chris Benoit the performer should rightly go down as one of the greatest wrestlers to step into the ring, Chris Benoit the man should rightly be seen as an evil fuck who killed his family.


Sorry, can't do that. You can keep watching Benoit matches and respecting him professionally, that's fine. I find it absurd. The man suffocated his 7 year old child after committing premeditated murder on his wife. He is a disgusting human being. The same human being standing in that ring. No interest in ever seeing him wrestle a match in a business thats supposed to be fun and entertaining. A peice of shit, that about sums it up. I don't care if he's performing, thats the same person. That would be a cold blooded murderer and a peice of trash that I have 0 respect for in any department.

You think I give a fuck how any murderer or reprehensible human does at their job? Freddy Kruegger, great janitor. Don't mean shit. It's just a shame he can't live to rot in a jail cell.

[ford fairlane]

Still the question remains about the timeline.Im not harping on about this to defect from what happened,but there is a huge amount of time totally unaccounted for.
Another thing if like people are laying it out,he killed his wife then left it a day to kill his son what happened in the between time as the police said the house was not messed up in anyway to show signs of a struggle or signs of him going crazy over what he done.
It just seems to me that very important factors are being dismissed without a second thought.

[James Steele]

It finally hit me watching the press conference. Reality finally hit. Chris Benoit may God have mercy on your soul.

[Kane Knight]

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That kind of falls under the improbable part. The liklihood that there was such a serious service drop long enough to postpone messages this long is unlikely. I have more faith in the walking cell phone theory.

[Mercury Bullet]

Not if he had fuckin' Verizon. My text messaging hardly ever works.

[rob11]

Anyone else just not know what to say and are still in shock he did this?

[Jeritron]

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[Xero]

The following was posted on WWE.com just now:


STAMFORD, Conn., June 26, 2007 – World Wrestling Entertainment is stunned and saddened by the details released by local authorities concerning the double homicide-suicide involving Chris Benoit, his wife, Nancy, and his son, Daniel.

However, WWE is concerned with the sensationalistic reporting and speculation being undertaken by some members of the media following the press conference held by the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department and the District Attorney. During the press conference, the investigating authorities made the following points, all of which run contrary to the media speculation that "roid rage" was a factor in the senseless murders and suicide:

1. The authorities stated that all drugs found in the house were believed to be legal prescriptions.

2. Steroids were not, and could not, be related to the cause of death (asphyxiation). Authorities had no factual basis to speculate as to Benoit’s state of mind, and rightly did not do so.

3. Toxicology tests have not even been completed, so there is no current evidence that Benoit even had steroids or any other substance in his body. In that regard, on the last test done on Benoit by WWE's independently administered drug testing program, done on April 10, 2007, Benoit tested negative.

4. The physical findings announced by authorities indicate deliberation, not rage. The wife's feet and hands were bound and she was asphyxiated, not beaten to death. By the account of the authorities, there were substantial periods of time between the death of the wife and the death of the son, again suggesting deliberate thought, not rage. The presence of a Bible by each is also not an act of rage.

5. WWE strongly suggests that it is entirely wrong for speculators to suggest that steroids had anything to do with these senseless acts, especially when the authorities plainly stated there is no evidence that Benoit had steroids in his body, pending the toxicological reports, and that they had no evidence at this time as to the motive for these acts.

WWE is continuing to monitor the ongoing investigation being conducted by local authorities.

[XL]

Shit here's another conundrum.

I don't have Sky/cable at home and although I found a live feed on the net last night I couldn't stay up til 4 watching Raw as I have to go to work.

So I started a download from PWTorrents before I left for work. It's fully DL'd now but I can't work out in my own head if I should watch it given what I've found out since returning home.

This thing is so fucked up I'm asking a bunch of people I don't know whether I should watch a TV show. I'm 23 for fuck sake. And KK can take the piss all he likes but I'm having trouble getting my head around how to feel about the guy.

I think it's clear what WWE's stance on it is. They've pulled all referance to him from wwe.com, discontinued his sopzone stuff and event removed his name for the advertising blurb for WM20.

[James Steele]

WWE is walking this like better than I ever thought they would. They are throwing Benoit under a bus, but it looks like the son of a bitch deserves it.