MLB 2008 Season Thread

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Ungrateful? What? Did I say I wasn't going to go? No...its just that today's game was the culmination of what I've seen for weeks now. About 90% of the team comes across as not giving a shit. I've seen no emotion, no hustle, nothing to make it look like they even care.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure I'll get more excited once it comes closer...and fortunately Pedro seems to be one of the few guys who give a shit. Its just the way they've been playing lately, I feel like I'll be sitting there watching the guys pack it in.

That's what fucks me off about the Mets right now, and it annoys me more than anything. You mention the Pirates and Royals...well, I actually DO have a friend who is a Pirates fan. They aren't doing that bad yet, but even when they lose, he doesn't mind as much because they tend to show heart. The Mets right now have not, and that's what's annoying me the most. If they seemed like they cared about the game and not just collecting their paychecks, I might not be so pissed off at them right now.</font>

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wow Dontrell Willis sent down to A ball :| Dude fell off hard..

[ClockShot]

Interleague play starts up again tonight.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wow, apparently tonight is the first time the Rangers have ever played the Mets at Shea Stadium...the only other time the Rangers have played at Shea is when the Yankees had to use Shea.</font> :eek:

[VonErichLives]

might already have been discussed but MLB is pushing instant replay and plan to use it mid-season...

I like the idea to review home runs, but adding it mid-season? seems like a strange time for a rule change.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yeah especially if one of the teams that got screwed earlier this year get left out of the playoffs and a team that makes the playoffs gets a review to their benefit. Could make some serious drama

[Triple A]

Farnsworth coming in to save the game

[Nervous Ferret]

oh god, I am dreading the bottom of the 9th right now. Praying Giambi will hit a home run or something because no way the Farns doesn't give up at least 2

[Nervous Ferret]

Fucking Farnsworth hits Ty Wigginton COME ON

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah I'm all for instant replay, adding it mid-season is weird but the sooner the better I think. Obviously they'll use it for home run calls, but anything else? Close plays at the plate could make for challenges too...just as long as they don't go overboard with it. Wonder if it'll work like the NFL where each team gets a set number of challenges, could add a little more strategy.

Definitely liked what I saw out of the Mets tonight, like a total 180 from the week of games previous...hopefully they can keep it up. Maybe Willie's job officially being on the line helped them out. :shifty:

Mets acquire Trot Nixon for either cash or a PTBNL. :cool: I've always liked Nixon, seems like a good hard-nosed player. Guess I'll be seeing his Mets debut tomorrow.</font>

[Juan]

I always loved the Bay Bridge Series'.

[Skippord]

Ian "Rockies Best Offensive Prospect" Stewart with two Jacks today

[SammyG]

Dodgers getting absolutely KILLED on national television. Awesome.

[Dragon]

Why wouldn't the Reds use Cordero there? You tie the game off Papelbon you should probably throw your closer out there and try and win in the bottom half of the inning.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I do believe I've just seen the best tickets I'll ever have go up in smoke. The game was rained out, and they've scheduled a regular doubleheader tomorrow so people with tickets tomorrow's game get both games.

I'd like to give a big fuck you to MLB Scheduling for making the Mets fly from home out to the West Coast for a Monday game for the 2nd time in 2 weeks...if only they had a Monday offday they would have done a day-night doubleheader.</font> :(

[OssMan]

Wow a regular doubleheader. I thought those were forbidden nowadays.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>They pretty much are. Teams try to fit in a day-night doubleheader as much as possible because they can charge a whole new crowd for parking and stuff.
I just looked and apparently the tix for yesterday's game are exchangable for any 2008 Mets home game.....subject to availability. Meaning there's no chance in hell of ever seeing seats remotely like that again because they are probably sold out for each game.</font> :(

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Why wouldn't the Reds use Cordero there? You tie the game off Papelbon you should probably throw your closer out there and try and win in the bottom half of the inning.

Lincoln had worked the 9th pretty well and the pitcher's spot was first up in the 10th so I'm assuming Dusty was trying to save arms. Didn't work but what can you do

[ClockShot]

13-0

OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! Lovin' it.

[SammyG]

Do you think Joe Torre hates his life right now.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

If he does I'd be happy to trade with him.

[Triple A]

Wow... Wang might be out for the rest of the fucking season

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080616&content_id=2941872&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

06/16/2008 3:41 PM ET
Wang out of action at least six weeks
Right foot injuries threaten to end Yankees ace's season

NEW YORK -- The Yankees' starting rotation has been dealt a serious blow, as Chien-Ming Wang -- the Major Leagues' winningest pitcher over the last two-plus seasons -- could be lost for the remainder of the 2008 campaign.

The right-hander was examined on Monday in New York and has been diagnosed with a mid-foot sprain of the Lisfranc ligament of the right foot and a partial tear of the peroneal longus tendon of the right foot.

Wang will be on crutches and wear a protective boot for at least six weeks, the Yankees said.

According to that timetable, Wang would not be out of the boot until almost early August, and would require additional time to return his arm to Major League pitching condition.

The evaluations were made on Monday at the New York Presbyterian Hospital Columbia Medical Center, with Wang being examined by Yankees team physician Dr. Stuart Hershon and Dr. Jason Greisberg, a foot and ankle specialist.

Wang's injury is the second Lisfranc-related diagnosis for the Yankees this season, a rarity considering injuries of that type do not normally affect baseball players.

Right-handed reliever Brian Bruney slipped and fell during an April 23 game in Chicago and injured the Lisfranc ligament on his right foot. Like Wang, Bruney was able to avoid surgery and is eyeing a possible return to Major League duty in late July.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Tough break, he hurt his foot sliding into home right?

[Triple A]

I think rounding 3rd.

[ClockShot]

My world collapsed when I came home from work and found out Wang tweaked something while running. :'(

Heard Buster Olney on Sportscenter saying the Yankees are now shopping for an arm.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>We'll trade you El Duque. :shifty: </font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>ROFL. Hank Steinbrenner went on a tirade about how the NL needs to "grow up and adapt the DH" because his pitcher got hurt running the bases. He says having the pitcher hit was a rule from the 1800's and needs to be changed.

What a fucking idiot.</font> :lol:

[OssMan]

OMG, the Angels channel is the worst fucking baseball broadcast I have ever seen in my life. The announcers are terrible, huge homers, and talk about wins and losses for a pitcher like it's the most important stat ever "When you're 2-6, sometimes you don't even know if you're good enough to make it through an inning!" But in the 7th inning they did this thing where the announcers shut the hell up and the only camera angle they show is one from in the stands or something like you are supposed to be at the game. It is retarded. Also all of these fans stood up and looked into left field at the same like somethin was going on but there was fucking no explanation to this. If I was at that game I would be looking there too, what the hell.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

There's no way they can be worse than the White Sox announcers.

[OssMan]

Yeah I guess so. You can put it on the board...............................yes. Not saying the announcers were the worst all time, just this ridiculous camera from the stands thing

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYA is worse than you can put it on the boarrrrrrrrrd......yessssssssssssssssssssss

Did Hank Steinbrenner really say that though? lol good thing he will never have to work for anything in life and just inherited a great job

[ClockShot]

Well there goes my bet.

Mets fire Willie Randolph.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Willie Randolph, Rick Peterson, and first base coach Tom Nieto all got the ax.

How Sandy Alomar Sr. survived is beyond me, as he's easily the worst 3B coach in the National league. I get that they value his knowledge of the game, but jeez, make him the Bench coach or 1B coach. I don't think I've seen a Met go first to third more than a few times all year, Alomar always tells them to hold at 2nd even when the outfielder doesn't have the ball yet.

But yeah, I have to say, awful job by Mets management on this one. You can't whip out the ax and hold it over Willie's neck for this long. They should have at least fired him before they go on the road trip to California.</font>

[Hanso Amore]

Fuck, Wang is done.

The Yankees cant make a run with a patch work fucking rotation.

They better not make a trade. Adding Sabathia will not get them to the playoffs, but will cost them 4-5 top prospects. If they cant do it with what they got, they just better pack it in and hope to have a great offseason.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>A lot of people seem to be down on Jerry Manuel being the interim manager...but I don't see anything wrong with it. I'll take a former Manager of the Year as an interim guy any day of the week.</font>

[Juan]

Finally Randolph gets the boot.

[Dragon]

Fuck, Wang is done.

The Yankees cant make a run with a patch work fucking rotation.

They better not make a trade. Adding Sabathia will not get them to the playoffs, but will cost them 4-5 top prospects. If they cant do it with what they got, they just better pack it in and hope to have a great offseason.

I dunno. If they added Sabathia they would be in a pretty good position. Pretty much the same position as we were before Wang got injured.

Sabathia
Pettitte
Moose
Joba
Rasner/Hughes/Kennedy/Wang if he makes it back

Thats a solid rotation in my mind.

With that said, I agree about not trading the farm for Sabathia. I think the Yanks should obviously make a run at Sabathia if he's available but not at the price of a Hughes, Joba, Cano, etc... which it would probably take to get him. Cashman pretty much just needs to offer what he did for Santana, no Hughes, Cano, etc...If something like Kennedy, Tabata + doesn't get something done then they just need to leave the team as is. Its pretty much the same opinion as when the Santana rumors were going on.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'm digging Manuel already. He's said Sandy Alomar will remain on the coaching staff as the bench coach, not the 3rd base coach.....changing the lineup.....vowing for more definitive roles in the bullpen.</font> :cool:

[Hanso Amore]

I dunno. If they added Sabathia they would be in a pretty good position. Pretty much the same position as we were before Wang got injured.

Sabathia
Pettitte
Moose
Joba
Rasner/Hughes/Kennedy/Wang if he makes it back

Thats a solid rotation in my mind.

With that said, I agree about not trading the farm for Sabathia. I think the Yanks should obviously make a run at Sabathia if he's available but not at the price of a Hughes, Joba, Cano, etc... which it would probably take to get him. Cashman pretty much just needs to offer what he did for Santana, no Hughes, Cano, etc...If something like Kennedy, Tabata + doesn't get something done then they just need to leave the team as is. Its pretty much the same opinion as when the Santana rumors were going on.

That looks good on paper, but your going to have to give up 2 guys to get Sabathia, and who knows how Moose will finish the year (he has ben so streaky.) Im thinking more long term though, When Moose and pettite retire, were fucked unless these young guys pan out, and CC has mad mileage on him.

[ClockShot]

A few tidbits that went under the radar. If anybody cares.

Reports going around are saying Ken Griffey Jr. is willing to waive his No-Trade clause to get traded to Tampa Bay.

The Mariners fired GM Bill Bravasi.

The Indians sign Morgan Ensberg to the minor league deal after being cut from the Yankees.

[Skippord]

Jeff Baker with the Inside The Park Home Run :cool:

[OssMan]

Oh shit Jerry Manuel just took Reyes out of the game and Reyes is pissed as hell. Manuel :love:

[OssMan]

I'm digging Manuel already. He's said Sandy Alomar will remain on the coaching staff as the bench coach, not the 3rd base coach.....changing the lineup.....vowing for more definitive roles in the bullpen. :cool:EASLEY goin from 1st to 3rd on a single up the middle. Who is 3rd base coach tonite

[OssMan]

How weird is it gonna be for Randolphs coaching the NL all star game lol. Also wtf at Omar Minaya saying that Randolph's job is safe until the end of the season. Fuck I hate him sometimes.

[ClockShot]

'stache is working for Giambi.

[YOUR Hero]

The Jays are pathetic, so hard to root for them when they don't play with emotion.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

How weird is it gonna be for Randolphs coaching the NL all star game lol. lol What? He's still coaching the All Star game? How?

[ClockShot]

Welcome back, Mr. Ponson.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>ROFL, Jerry Manuel on Jose Reyes' hissyfit from Tuesday:

“I told him the next time he does that, I’m going to get my blade out and cut him, right on the field. Hey, I’m a gangsta now. You go gangsta on me, I’m gonna have to get you now.”

I love this guy.</font> :love:

[Loose Cannon]

what the fucking christ, Sidney Ponson? what, he didn't suck enough the first time around? like, I would really like to know what they are thinking sometimes. maybe he can take Farnsworth's spot and blow some games in the 7th

[Skippord]

lol What? He's still coaching the All Star game? How?
why would he be anyway?

[owenbrown]

Seattle Mariners fired their manager today. http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8262126/MLB-worst-M%27s-fire-manager-McLaren (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8262126/MLB-worst-M%27s-fire-manager-McLaren)

[Dragon]

Nice, 7 game win streak and 12 of their last 15.

And with 9 more games against the NL, the Yanks should keep piling up some wins.

[ClockShot]

Keeping my mouth shut right now cause I don't wanna jinx this.

Good game today.

[VonErichLives]

Curt Schilling just announced on local radio he's having surgery on Monday, there is no chance he'll play this year and a really good chance he's "thrown his last pitch", that he won't be ready to even try and pitch until after the all-star break next year.

He said he'll still have the fire, but even after the surgery not sure of the body will have it left.

[Gertner]

Jays fired their entire coaching staff and replaced them with the staff from their 92-93 championship teams. Cito's back!

[RP]

LOL Cito Gastin. Theres a blast from the past.

[Jeritron]

Sox are wearing green jerseys and Peirce is throwing out the first pitch tonight

[IC Champion]

CITO FUCKING GASTON.

WE'RE GOING BACK TO BACK AGAIN, 15 YEARS LATER. WOOOOOOOOO


Still can't beleive Cito Gaston. Awesome.

[Gertner]

it's Gaston by the way, and this is such a despartion move by J.P, coverign up that he got swept by Gord Ash, almost got no hit by Dave Bush, got dinged by a three run homer by Reed Johnson, by shut out by Ted Lilly and made himself out to be an ass by Adam Dunn.

[IC Champion]

Cito Gaston, what I said.

[ClockShot]

Bummer. Feel bad for Gibbons. He just couldn't get over that 3rd place hump in the AL East these past few seasons.

[IC Champion]

Jay's managment is a fucking joke .

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Volquez vs. Mussina tonight at Yankee Stadium. Should be a good one.

[Terra Ryzin]

http://web.sny.tv/media/player/mp_tpl.jsp?w=mms%3A//a1503.v222062.c22206.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/22206/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/22206/2008/daily/06/062008_sn_cyclonesyanks1_400.wmv&type=v_free&_mp=1

haha switch hitter vs. switch pitcher

[DaveWadding]

LOL @ you Yanks fans...I remember the last time Cleveland traded away their ace with an expiring contract...here's what they got back:

Montreal gets:
Bartolo Colon

Tribe gets:
Grady Sizemore (GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY-D, GAAAAAAAAAAY-D)
Brandon Phillips (and then gave up on him way too quickly)
and
Clifford Lee (Yeah...THAT guy...the one who's gonna start for the AL if he keeps it up)

So don't think you're gonna get off without giving up 1 or 2 of your beloved top prospects. Mark Shapiro (Tribe GM) has huge grapefruits.

Also, I went to Wednesday night's massacre of the A's...with Joseph RoXer. Good times.

[OssMan]

You guys actually know each other irl

[YOUR Hero]

Halladay got hit in the head last night. MAn. That guy can't get a break... well actully he can, as in broken bones. He's been hit by line drives 2-3 times seriously in his career. Best pitcher in baseball, but so much bad luck.

[YOUR Hero]

http://web.sny.tv/media/player/mp_tpl.jsp?w=mms%3A//a1503.v222062.c22206.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/22206/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/22206/2008/daily/06/062008_sn_cyclonesyanks1_400.wmv&type=v_free&_mp=1

haha switch hitter vs. switch pitcher

I was sure I read (or saw) before that the pitcher, even if he's ambidextrous cannot change pitching hands once he's on the mound and declares his stance. Reading another article this AM, the batter and pitcher kept swapping around their stance (7 times?) until the ump decided it was the batter that had to declare his stance.
It'll be interesting to see what MLB rules, as they are now looking into it.

[Nervous Ferret]

I got to see the legendary Adam Dunn in person today. Hilarious to watch

Can't stand the Yankees over the last 5 years or so randomly getting shut down by nobodies

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Holy shit, CC Sabathia hit a SHOT today.</font>

[SammyG]

off of Dodgers pitching... and the crazy thing is that he promised he would hit one out before the game.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Here's a fun fact about this weekend's Reds Yankees series: for the 3 games the Yankees starting pitchers average age is 35, the Reds starting pitchers average age is 23.

[Skippord]

I am starting to hate Jose Reyes with his lead off triples all the time

[FakeLaser]

http://static.flickr.com/86/236427123_9f9908f23f_o.jpg

[Boomer]

Tex with 3 HRs today. Good to watch some baseball again.

[Innovator]

Fuck, Farnswoggle is warming up

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Okajima didn't give up a run today, or allow an inherited runner to score...things are looking up

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Damn. :o I'm going to Tuesday's Mets/M's game as part of the 7 Pack I got......I heard that Santana and Felix would be facing off and marked out cause I assumed there was a day off Monday.

Unfortunately there isn't, so I'll be seeing Ollie Perez vs. RA Dickey instead. Been awhile since I've seen a high scoring game at Shea.</font> :shifty:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Damn. :o I'm going to Tuesday's Mets/M's game as part of the 7 Pack I got......I heard that Santana and Felix would be facing off and marked out cause I assumed there was a day off Monday.

Unfortunately there isn't, so I'll be seeing Ollie Perez vs. RA Dickey instead. Been awhile since I've seen a high scoring game at Shea.</font> :shifty:

[SammyG]

The NL West will be won with a record of 70-92.

[Splaya]

You're giving them to much credit

[Gertner]

jays finally win

[Nervous Ferret]

K Rod has 30 saves already this season :-\

[Skippord]

The NL West will be won with a record of 70-92.
By the Colorado Rockies

[OssMan]

Josh Hamilton has a chance to have 100 RBI by the All Star break. I got to see him play in person last night which is something that I really wanted to do this year. Too bad I left the tickets in my car but some nice man gave me a seat three rows up from first base line but I had to buy a $20 ticket for my friend (cheapest ticket available :| :| :| :| :| :| Nats don't have any grandstand seats for sale on gameday, come on) so we ended up sitting in our normal seats anyway

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Felix Hernandez just hit a first pitch grand slam off of Johan Santana. :| You can't write this stuff.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Oh yeah and the granny came after a 2-out error by Wright to load the bases. I swear its like impossible to not give up a run if you have a 2-out error...its like a curse hits your team.</font> :o

[OssMan]

Mets looking pathetic in the 6th inning rn. I bet Vito is having a great time.

[Gertner]

jays destroying the reds 13-1 in the 6th. CIIIITO GAAAAAAASTON!!!

[Innovator]

Good ol Yankees, making shit teams great

[Evil Vito]

Mets looking pathetic in the 6th inning rn. I bet Vito is having a great time.

<font color=goldenrod>Worst game I've ever been to......left early for the first time ever NOT caused by rain.

A close second was a 12-2 drubbing by the Padres in 2004 but at least in that game I got on TV.</font> :(

[Nervous Ferret]

Anyone been watching the college world series? Always love watching the CWS for some reason, this year has been great. Fresno St. was a ridiculous underdog to even make the Final 8, and they are up 19-10 in game 2 of the FINAL finals. Forcing a rubber game for tommorrow. The pitching staffs are so rediculously screwed for both teams, should be fun to watch tommorrow

[OssMan]

I'll bet you $100 the Bulldogs win

[Gertner]

You can tell that Gaston has changed the blue jays approach to the plate. They've been more aggressive in their hitting, not looking to walk, but to hit.

[OssMan]

Nobody can like Gaston

[ClockShot]

The Pirates. Really now, c'mon.

[OssMan]

Yankees are simply too prestigious to lose to a bunch of scumbags like the Pirates

[Innovator]

yup

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Jerry Manuel is a genius</font> :love:

[ClockShot]

Wow. This morning I watch ESPNews and read Shawn Chacon got suspeneded indefinately after he grabbed the Astros GM by the neck and threw him to the ground. I just come home and they outright release the guy.

[Loose Cannon]

HOUSTON -- The Houston Astros have released Shawn Chacon, opting to cut the right-hander a day after he reportedly grabbed general manager Ed Wade by the neck and threw him to the ground.

The team requested waivers on Chacon on Thursday for the purpose of giving him his unconditional release. If he isn't claimed by another major league team by Monday, waivers will expire and his contract will be terminated without pay.

----------------------------------

Ok, help me understand because this is the one area of sports I just never get. So, how can they just terminate his contract like that? I can understand that they can relase him or whatever, but don't they owe him the money he signed for? I'll never understand this.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I think attacking your GM can void your contract.

Not even a joke....I'm willing to bet it's a fine print thing.</font>

[Loose Cannon]

ok, that's what I was thinking as well. seems like the only logical thing

[ClockShot]

They got him on Waivers right now. Teams got till Monday to grab him. If not, contract terminated, no pay.

[Gertner]

Volquez got rocked by all teams the Jays.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yeah Volquez looked very bad last night. Jesse Litsch on the other hand looked sick nasty.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Can we talk about a guy getting seriously slept on this season? Rich Harden despite his history of injuries is an absolute stud this year. Last night he went 8 shutout innings, struck out 11 while allowing 2 hits and a walk. His ERA is 2.15 and he's not getting any love.

[Gertner]

jesse litsch is makign it hard not to hate him anymore

[Loose Cannon]

Can we talk about a guy getting seriously slept on this season? Rich Harden despite his history of injuries is an absolute stud this year. Last night he went 8 shutout innings, struck out 11 while allowing 2 hits and a walk. His ERA is 2.15 and he's not getting any love.

how about fucking Ryan Dempster. where did he come from?

lol Barry Zito. It's June 27th and I'm going to go ahead and say that is the worst signing ever in baseball history

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol Zito...I remember being so mad when the Mets didn't get him...so glad they waited a year and got Santana instead. :love:

Now then for today's scary fact of the day: Damion Easley, Marlon Anderson, Endy Chavez, Trot Nixon, Fernando Tatis, Moises Alou and Angel Pagan have all played left field for the Mets this season.

Together, making one left fielder, they have hit .184 with two home runs and 30 RBI, good for worst in the National League.

---

Ouch. :o I knew the Mets' LF production was bad, but I had no idea it was that bad.</font>

[OssMan]

grand slam Delgado. lol, Yankees

[Hanso Amore]

Holy shit, the Mets would probably be about 10 games better with a dead body in left.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Delgado sets a new Mets record with 9 RBI on the game. Can't say I was expecting that.</font>

[Innovator]

Hawkins tossing 88 mph fastballs down the middle helped him there

Fucking bullpen

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Had kind of a bad feeling this would happen. After putting up 15 the Mets can't score off Ponson. Dude crawled his way out of 2 bases loaded jams.</font> :o

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wow, it's only 6 starts but Pedro's numbers are scary bad...7.12 ERA. I really hope he can turn it around but with all the injuries I'm not sure he can readily come back. Certainly his last year with the Mets and unless he experiences a rejuvenation I'm pretty certain this is his last year period.

Still...his 4 year deal was worth it if you ask me. I fully believe that, ultimately, without him...Beltran and Wagner wouldn't have signed, Delgado and Santana wouldn't have waived their no trade clauses...none of that. Giving him that 4th year was crucial to coming across as wanting to win.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wow, it's only 6 starts but Pedro's numbers are scary bad...7.12 ERA. I really hope he can turn it around but with all the injuries I'm not sure he can readily come back. Certainly his last year with the Mets and unless he experiences a rejuvenation I'm pretty certain this is his last year period.

Still...his 4 year deal was worth it if you ask me. I fully believe that, ultimately, without him...Beltran and Wagner wouldn't have signed, Delgado and Santana wouldn't have waived their no trade clauses...none of that. Giving him that 4th year was crucial to coming across as wanting to win.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Great so the Mets swept the Yanks at Yankee Stadium and are gonna just go right ahead and get swept at Shea...don't really see how they can win tomorrow with Perez pitching. :-\ On the plus side if he sucks he might finally get the boot from the rotation.

Church is supposed to be back though, psyched about that.

I wonder if Santana is regretting being a Met yet...the Met tradition of never giving your ace run support is reigning supreme.</font> :(

[Innovator]

Went to the game today, great time, great atmosphere with all the fans. Not really a hated rivalry, just there for some baseball

[Innovator]

There was a lot of ripping on Susan Waldman though

ROGER IS IN THE BOX

[OssMan]

Fucking Nats park go apeshit about people going into seats they didn't purchase and they kick you out of the seats you purchased during a rain delay, and they made us wait in the concourse where I got wetter than I did in my seat. Also the parking is so terrible that they let you park for free at RFK stadium and take a shuttle bus to the game, but the one we took on the way back was one of those double decker tour buses that definitely wasn't suited to drive through Southeast DC so a ton of people got smacked in the face by tree branches. lol

[ClockShot]

Hmmmmm. Talk about your baseball game in the battle of L.A.

[SammyG]

Yeah how the fuck has no one mentioned this yet. Ridiculous. Mad embarassing that the Dodgers got no hit, but also amazing because we won.

[VonErichLives]

ok, not a mlb issue but I don't feel like making a new thread?

Anyone hear about the georgia high school game where they felt they were getting squeezed so the catcher called for a fastball and dived and the ump got hit right on the mask.

he had an offer from a college (may have only been as a walk-on) and they revoked it.

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[Gertner]

Fucking Burnett was on fire today.

and btw..outlaw remember when you said Scott Downs wasn't better than Chad Gaudin? 26 straight scoreless innings.

[Splaya]

Tigers now one game over .500. Thank you for coming to town Colorado :love:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wow, glad I was wrong about Perez. :cool: The Mets should brainwash him into thinking every game is against the Yankees.

Huge 8 game trip coming up against the Cards and Phils.</font>

[Skippord]

Tigers now one game over .500. Thank you for coming to town Colorado :love:
yeah the Rockies looked terrible over their whole road trip

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Fucking Okajima man, what the hell is going on?????

[Loose Cannon]

ok, not a mlb issue but I don't feel like making a new thread?

Anyone hear about the georgia high school game where they felt they were getting squeezed so the catcher called for a fastball and dived and the ump got hit right on the mask.

he had an offer from a college (may have only been as a walk-on) and they revoked it.

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what an asshole.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>That guy is a dick. And an idiot too.....if he at least TRIED to make it look like he was attempting to catch it, it probably would be a non-issue because it'd look like an accident.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wow, a threat came in threatening the black and Latin players on the Red Sox...extra security tonight at the Trop.</font>

[McLegend]

So glad to be done with the American League.

[Gertner]

Roy motha fuckin Halladay bitches!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Anyone see Troy Percival last night? He got hurt with 2 outs in the 9th and had an argument with his manager on the mound...Percival has been praised throughout the league for being fiery and wanting to stay in...

yet just 2 weeks ago, Jose Reyes potentially got injured, Manuel wanted to pull him, but Reyes argued and wanted to remain in the game...ie: the same damn thing. Was he fiery? Nope, according to everyone in baseball, he was being immature.

Something's quite not right here...</font>:o

[ClockShot]

Well. Nobody picked up Shawn Chacon. Astros terminated his contract, but the union filed a grievance.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Heard a rumor in both NY and LA papers that the Mets and Dodgers are discussing swapping Carlos Beltran for Matt Kemp and Chad Billingsley...lol my ass. The ONLY way that would get done is if Omar Minaya brought a gun to negotiations.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The All-Star balloting ends tomorrow, mercifully. I think what pisses me off more than anything is that they set each team's projected Opening Day lineup and that's it. Poor Carlos Quentin will be screwed out of a spot because your average fan doesn't think about using the write-in vote.</font>

[SammyG]

Beltran for Kemp AND Billingsley?!

Get the FUCK outta here. No fucking way. We need power badly, but fuck that trade.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Exactly. Like I said, only way that trade happens is if Omar brings a gun to negotiations. Hell, I would swap Beltran for Kemp straight up because I think Kemp is a future All-Star. Not even a knock on Carlos, who I like but the NY pressure clearly gets in his head.

That being said, with the Mets' luck, the deal would somehow be agreed upon and Beltran would veto it.</font> :(

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol I just realized, looks like Jim Thome and his .232 batting average is gonna be the starting AL DH since Papi and Godzilla are both down. He's a distant third by over 530,000 votes</font> :o

[Loose Cannon]

so for every moment like what VEL posted, there's these moments. I heard about this yesterday. Pure class. BTW, is that really the rule for homeruns? I never heard that before.

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[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I think the rules are slightly different in MLB, for some reason I think I remember someone on the Red Sox getting injured rounding the bases for a HR and they were allowed to pinch-run for him when he was in the middle of the basepaths.

But yeah, you'd never see something like this in MLB. Awesome moment.</font> :y:

[ClockShot]

Marc Ecko agrees to send Bonds' 756 ball to the H.O.F permenately.

Wonder what changed his mind?

[Loose Cannon]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Speaking of trade rumors, I heard the Brewers might have the most to offer for Sabathia. I'm hearing they will only start officially shopping him if they can't sign him to an extension by the break.</font>

[ClockShot]

DAMN YOU, PONSON! :foc:

Can't wait till Wang returns.:'(

[Boomer]

Haha. Ryan Howard just got an error and did his best Mr. Perfect impression with his gum.

[OssMan]

Rays are so good for baseball right now. I love it. Fuck the Sox

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Weird coming from a Mets fan lol

Everyone acting like this is some HUGE deal, I mean its big for the Rays but its July and the Red Sox haven't had Ortiz for a while now. Pretty happy that they where able to get some runs off of Kazmir, but the pen looked like shit, 6 ER combined by Delcarmen and Hansen :| Somethings gotta happen with that, definitely going to trade for someone - can't see how they don't.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Don't really see why anyone who isn't a fan of one of the other AL East teams would root against the Rays.</font>

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well I can see that but he said it was good for baseball which I took as its good since its a small market team with a low payroll competing with 2 of the biggest spenders in all of baseball in their division, which I think is funny coming from a Mets fan. As I think about there is other reasons why its good but that's the biggest reason that jumps out to me.

As I said I do think its good but I'd rather it be a team with a little more history or something, even if the Rays start to do good I can't see a lot of people in the Tampa Bay area starting to get behind them. Would rather see a team like Pittsburgh or something pull this off - not a team that has changed their uniforms about 8 times in their short 10 year history.

[OssMan]

I like when the newer teams make a big run, like the Marlins and the Dbacks cause if they don't they are just a shitty new team that is shitty every year. Ya I am a Mets fan but I realize that they are stupid and spend a ton of money like idiots. I've always liked the Rays though and I'm glad to see somebody taking a shit on the Yankees and Red Sox after 8 years.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Alright well I'm bored again so I'm gonna do what I did last year and take a stab at the all-star rosters before they are announced. Last year I did pretty well except for the pitching.

For the starters I'm pretty much going off the voting results the day before the polls closed...just gonna assume everyone that was ahead won out:

<b><u>National League</u>
Starting Lineup</b>
SS – Hanley Ramirez, Florida Marlins
2B – Chase Utley, Philadelphia Phillies
DH – Albert Pujols, St. Louis Cardinals
1B – Lance Berkman, Houston Astros
3B – Chipper Jones, Atlanta Braves
CF – Kosuke Fukudome, Chicago Cubs
LF – Ryan Braun, Milwaukee Brewers (No. 4 in voting, replaces injured Alfonso Soriano)
RF – Ken Griffey Jr, Cincinnati Reds
C – Geovany Soto, Chicago Cubs

<b>Reserves</b>
OF – Pat Burrell, Philadelphia Phillies
1B – Adrian Gonzalez, San Diego Padres
OF – Matt Holliday, Colorado Rockies
OF – Carlos Lee, Houston Astros
C – Russell Martin, Los Angeles Dodgers
C – Brian McCann, Atlanta Braves
OF – Nate McLouth, Pittsburgh Pirates
3B – Aramis Ramirez, Chicago Cubs
SS – Jose Reyes, New York Mets
2B – Dan Uggla, Florida Marlins
3B – David Wright, New York Mets

<b>Pitchers</b>
RHP – Aaron Cook, Colorado Rockies
RHP – Dan Haren, Arizona Diamondbacks
RHP – Brad Lidge, Philadelphia Phillies
RHP – Tim Lincecum, San Francisco Giants
LHP – Manny Parra, Milwaukee Brewers
RHP – Jon Rauch, Washington Nationals
RHP – Ben Sheets, Milwaukee Brewers
RHP – Edinson Volquez, Cincinnati Reds
LHP – Billy Wagner, New York Mets
RHP – Brandon Webb, Arizona Diamondbacks
RHP – Kerry Wood, Chicago Cubs

<b>32nd Man Fan Vote</b>
RHP – Heath Bell, San Diego Padres
RHP – Ryan Dempster, Chicago Cubs
LHP – Cole Hamels, Philadelphia Phillies
RHP – Kyle Lohse, St. Louis Cardinals
LHP – Johan Santana, New York Mets


<b><u>American League</u>
Starting Lineup</b>
RF – Ichiro Suzuki, Seattle Mariners
SS – Derek Jeter, New York Yankees
CF – Josh Hamilton, Texas Rangers
3B – Alex Rodriguez, New York Yankees
LF – Manny Ramirez, Boston Red Sox
DH – Jim Thome, Chicago White Sox (No. 3 in voting, replaces injured David Ortiz and Hideki Matsui)
C – Joe Mauer, Minnesota Twins
1B – Kevin Youkilis, Boston Red Sox
2B – Dustin Pedroia, Boston Red Sox

<b>Reserves</b>
OF – Milton Bradley, Texas Rangers
OF - Jermaine Dye, Chicago White Sox
2B – Ian Kinsler, Texas Rangers
3B – Mike Lowell, Boston Red Sox
1B – Justin Morneau, Minnesota Twins
2B – Placido Polanco, Detroit Tigers
C – Jorge Posada, New York Yankees
OF – Carlos Quentin, Chicago White Sox
2B – Brian Roberts, Baltimore Orioles
OF – Grady Sizemore, Cleveland Indians
SS – Michael Young, Texas Rangers

<b>Pitchers</b>
RHP – Justin Duchscherer, Oakland Athletics
RHP – Roy Halladay, Toronto Blue Jays
LHP – Scott Kazmir, Tampa Bay Rays
RHP – John Lackey, Los Angeles Angles of Anaheim
LHP – Cliff Lee, Cleveland Indians
RHP – Joe Nathan, Minnesota Twins
RHP – Jonathan Papelbon, Boston Red Sox
RHP – Mariano Rivera, New York Yankees
RHP – Francisco Rodriguez, Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
LHP – Joe Saunders, Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
RHP – Joakim Soria, Kansas City Royals

<b>32nd Man Fan Vote</b>
OF – Johnny Damon, New York Yankees
OF – JD Drew, Boston Red Sox
OF – Vladimir Guerrero, Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
OF – Jose Guillen, Kansas City Royals
OF – David Murphy, Texas Rangers

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Well I didn't put too much thought into this, but whatever. As always I'm sure there will be some ridiculous snubs.

Mad 2B reserves on the AL team. :o But it was hard to pick between them, I was gonna cut Brian "the token Oriole" Roberts and throw another O in but I didn't. Hope some of them can play other positions. :o

Good to see Griffey and Thome with their awful batting averages will probably be starting, though seeing them hit in Yankee Stadium with the short porch should be fun.</font> :cool:

[ClockShot]

:nono:

[SammyG]

D-bags score 6 in the 9th to win, come on.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I heard that there's talk of letting Mariano start the All-Star game, thus ensuring he gets to pitch a meaningful inning at Yankee Stadium, and then bringing in Lee or Duchscherer to pitch 2 innings.

Frankly I think it would be funnier if we got to the 9th and Francona has to pick between Papelbon and Rivera...knowing full well that if he picked his own guy he would get slammed for it no matter what.</font> :o

[Boomer]

Francoeur sent to the minors. It needed to happen :(

He told the AJC he doesn't agree with the decision...but he needs a restart for sure

[Nervous Ferret]

Anybody see the foul ball catching Chris Snyder on the Diamondbacks in the balls the other night? Apparently he wa put on the 15 day DL with a 'Fractured Testicle.' :|

[VonErichLives]

so for every moment like what VEL posted, there's these moments. I heard about this yesterday. Pure class. BTW, is that really the rule for homeruns? I never heard that before.

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This is why women should stay in the kitchen and not try and play sports (yes, just kidding), that was really cool.

Marc Ecko agrees to send Bonds' 756 ball to the H.O.F permenately.

Wonder what changed his mind?

he had an * etched in with a diamond cutter, Bonds has said he'll boycot the HOF if they display it.

[YOUR Hero]

LOL at that triple today in the RSOX/Yankee game

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wow. The Mets can't buy a win when Johan is pitching...I swear its like the offense puts so much more pressure on themselves to not waste his starts yet they always do.</font> :-\

[RoXer]

Anyone else see the Broncos beat the Dolphons last night?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah that was a crazy game.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Newspapers are starting to get the list of voted-in starters for the AS game, everyone that was in the lead the day before closing is starting (including Soriano in left but he'll probably be replaced by Braun). As for the AL's DH, since Papi can't go and Matsui is injured they are bringing in Milton Bradley instead of Jim Thome (3rd in voting).

Ichiro and Fukudome are starting in the OF for their respective leagues...game's gonna net bigger ratings in Japan than ever.

Cliff Lee and Brandon Webb are slated to start as well (definitely thought Lincecum or Volquez would get that...hope we still get a Volquez/Hamilton matchup)...and apparently MLB is instructing Francona to pitch Rivera in the 9th regardless of score (which I'm sure he would have done anyway).

Everyone else will be announced tomorrow.</font>

[ClockShot]

Yea.

All we need now is a 2nd half of the season like we had last year.

[ClockShot]

Brew Crew and the Indians are in talks about a Sabathia trade.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>American League
East
BLUE JAYS (1): Roy Halladay, P
ORIOLES (1): George Sherrill, P
RAYS (2): Scott Kazmir, P; Dioner Navarro, C
RED SOX (7): J.D. Drew, OF; Jonathan Papelbon, P; Dustin Pedroia, 2B; David Ortiz,ºDH; Manny Ramirez, OF; Jason Varitek, C; Kevin Youkilis, 1B
YANKEES (3): Derek Jeter, SS; Mariano Rivera, P; Alex Rodriguez, 3B
Central
INDIANS (2): Cliff Lee, P; Grady Sizemore, OF
ROYALS (1): Joakim Soria, P
TIGERS (1): Carlos Guillen, 3B
TWINS (3): Joe Mauer, C; Justin Morneau, 1B; Joe Nathan, P
WHITE SOX (1): Joe Crede, 3B; Carlos Quentin, OF
West
ANGELS (3): Francisco Rodriguez, P; Ervin Santana, P; Joe Saunders, P
ATHLETICS (1): Justin Duchscherer, P
MARINERS (1): Ichiro Suzuki, OF
RANGERS (4): Milton Bradley, DH; Josh Hamilton, OF; Ian Kinsler, 2B; Michael Young, SS


National League
East
BRAVES (2): Chipper Jones, 3B; Brian McCann, C;
MARLINS (2): Hanley Ramirez, SS; Dan Uggla, 2B
METS (1): Billy Wagner, P
NATIONALS (1): Cristian Guzman, SS
PHILLIES (2): Brad Lidge, P; Chase Utley, 2B
Central
ASTROS (2): Lance Berkman, 1B; Miguel Tejada, SS
BREWERS (2): Ryan Braun, OF; Ben Sheets, P
CARDINALS (2): Ryan Ludwick; Albert Pujols, 1B
CUBS (7): Ryan Dempster, OF; Kosuke Fukudome, OF; Aramis Ramirez, 3B; Alfonso Soriano, OF; Geovany Soto, C; Kerry Wood, P; Carlos Zambrano, P
PIRATES (1): Nate McLouth, OF
REDS (1): Edinson Volquez, P
West
DIAMONDBACKS (2): Dan Haren, P; Brandon Webb, P
DODGERS (1): Russell Martin, C
GIANTS (2): Tim Lincecum, P; Brian Wilson, P
PADRES (1): Adrian Gonzalez, 1B
ROCKIES (2): Aaron Cook, P; Matt Holliday, OF

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Aramis over Wright?
Jason Varitek????
Brian Wilson? Seriously?</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Final Vote selections:

AL: Jermaine Dye, Jason Giambi, Jose Guillen, Evan Longoria, Brian Roberts
NL: Pay Burrell, Corey Hart, Carlos Lee, Aaron Rowand, David Wright</font>

[MVP]

lol Varitek is in, c'mon

[Skippord]

Varitek is the only one that I didn't get

[SammyG]

Whoa, you can get a free week subscription to MLB TV if you complete the rosters for the All Star Game. That's awesome.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

C.C. to the Brewers, a 3 month rental. His ERA is almost 4 but he has been pitching well lately (basing this off of looking at his stats - I havent seen him pitch in a while) Pretty crazy that the Indians where one game away from the World Series last year to this

[Innovator]

Could put the Brewers over the top for the 2nd half

[ClockShot]

Have my eyes gone bad, or are the Angels sending 3 arms and no Vlad the Impaler to the all-star game.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

2 out of the 3 arms are on my fantasy baseball team, big free agent pick ups :cool:

[Innovator]

GARDNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Could have easily been a 4 game sweep instead its a split, God damn it.

[Triple A]

What the fuck, the Devil Rays never ever lose, making me so angry. And they are blowing teams out.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

They are just the Rays now!!!!!!!

Also can't believe how easily this series could have been a sweep for the Sox, son of a bitch :mad: Bases loaded in the 9th yesterday then extra innings tonight :mad: WOULD HAVE BEEN HUGE

[Skippord]

Cook pitched pretty bad literally right after he was named an all star

[Supreme Olajuwon]

You should try to talk to him about it, Skip. Ginger to Ginger.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I forgot which positions the players vote for - but apparently they vote for the reserves and are not allowed to vote for their own team. So with that in mind I guess it makes sense that Tek got in based on reputation...although it also means nobody in the league bothered to look at his stats. :o

Anyway...went to the game last night. Mad ridiculous, love the environment. I wanted to make sure I got to go to Yankee Stadium one more time before it closed, picked the perfect game for it. Wasn't rooting for either team, just a good game. It was good to see the rookie win it.</font> :cool:

[Dragon]

C.C. to the Brewers, a 3 month rental. His ERA is almost 4 but he has been pitching well lately (basing this off of looking at his stats - I havent seen him pitch in a while) Pretty crazy that the Indians where one game away from the World Series last year to this

Yeah, I think I read that in his last 100 innings he's had an ERA around 2.10 or something. Just shows how terrible his first 4 or 5 starts were. Surprised the Sabathia deal went down so quickly though, seems like these things usually take forever to get done.

Great move for the Brewers though. If both Sheets and Sabathia leave to FA (everyone is saying they both want to), the Brewers would get like four first round picks in next years draft for them.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Ahh I love the feel of a big game. Everytime the Mets have tried to get back to .500 the past few months they have come up short...time to finally break ahead and then hopefully have a strong week against the Giants and Rockies before the break.</font>

[OssMan]

Endy Chavez just looked like Tiki Barber against the Redskins

[Skippord]

C.C had to get traded to the Brewers just as the Rockies were starting a series with them

[Skippord]

You should try to talk to him about it, Skip. Ginger to Ginger.
but my hair is more of an auburn while he's is a full on ginger

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The 2008 Mets: Getting off to a 10-1 lead against the Phillies and then BARELY winning 10-9

I'm pumped they are finally above .500............but the freaking bullpen makes the win seem underwhelming. :( Ah well, time to get some wins against the shit teams. Unfortunately Lincecum goes tomorrow though so I'm expecting a return to .500</font>

[Boomer]

The Braves getting perfect gamed against through 6. Ugh.

[OssMan]

MLB.tv to the rescue!

[Boomer]

7...

[OssMan]

Kuroda

[Boomer]

After 17 innings last night and a trip from ATL to LA, I can't say the Braves are in perfect condition to do much tonight.

But the guy's stuff has been sick. And it's obvious the Braves are swinging at first pitches to try to get to him. He's only got 70 pitches or so through 7.

[Boomer]

Mark Teixeiraaaaaaaaa

[OssMan]

Gay ass Teixeira

[Boomer]

The last perfect game was against the Braves. Pretty sure I watched the Big Unit destroy us.

[SammyG]

God damnit fuck you Mark Teixeira. Whatever, KUROOODA SHOWWWW

Tied for first, bout time.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol I love listening to the so-called baseball experts when they run through the all-star rosters, they always mention that Joakim Soria is "the token Royal" even though he's been among the most dominant closers this year and would make it regardless of team.

I almost want to vote for Guillen just to try and get two Royals on the team for the first time in ages.</font>

[Innovator]

Damn Melky fucked up a fan with a flying bat, could see the fan bleeding already

[Dragon]

Harden/Gaudin to the Cubs for 4 minor leaguers. Man, seems like some big name guys are getting dealt pretty quick this year. Cubs really didn't waste much time after the Brewers got Sabathia.

[YOUR Hero]

Cubs want to stay ahead of the Brew Crew

[Innovator]

Good win for the Yankees, pulled ahead in the 8th

I love Pettite

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The NL Central is further proof that no tv sports analyst deserves his paycheck. Everyone said the Central would be awful this year. Cubs, Cards, and Brewers have the 3 best records in the NL.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I love live games. :love: 4 runs off Lincecum and Pelfrey looked brilliant. I was pulling for 2 of 3 from this series, and this was the one game I thought we'd lose. Hope the offense can show up for Santana tomorrow.</font>

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I'm not drinking the Blue Jays Kool-Aid...I don't think they are gonna be that good

:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

[FakeLaser]

God my predictions look TERRIBLE right now

[Loose Cannon]

what a fucking move for the Cubbies. They are going for it. I hope they at least get to the World Series. Hopefully Harden stays healthy. Is he a free agent next year as well?

Zambrano is back and Dempster having a hell of a year. Add Harden now and they are looking good.

[YOUR Hero]

Jays are still 3rd in the AL in team pitching, their offense sucks so bad so far this year.

I knew TBay was going to be good. Not sure if it was this thread or lasat year's but I did say they would 'surprise' people this year. Have to admit that I was not expecting this, but good on them.

[YOUR Hero]

Gaudin is no slouch either. He's got an incredible slider when he on.

[RoXer]

Isn't the Cubs' DL already full?

[Innovator]

Ponson is beginning to sober up, just gave up a solo shot

[FakeLaser]

ROBERT BOB ABREU

[ClockShot]

Shit. I thought today was a night game.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>SANTANA GETS A WIN!</font> :love:

[Boomer]

Lowe is throwing a no-hitter through 5. Hudson is throwing a 1 hitter through 5.

And no walks for either.

[SammyG]

Shawty got lowe lowe lowe lowe lowe lowe

[Hanso Amore]

How is Ponson doing this?

[Hanso Amore]

6 1/2 out of first, making a comeback

[Loose Cannon]

Josh Hamilton is my hero. K-ROD lol

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Sweep :love:

Fernando Tatis is on fire</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Corey Hart and Evan Longoria are the winners of the Final Vote

Gotta say, I think the NY fans canceled each other out here because MLB kept updating the standings and saying that Longoria and Hart were leading.

All Mets fans voted for Wright and Longoria to keep Giambi out, while all Yanks fans voting for Giambi and Hart to keep Wright out.</font> :o

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Ooooh, forgot that the NL will have to fill in someone else to take Soriano's roster spot.....hope its Wright and not Pat Burrell.</font>

[OssMan]

It's Matt Holliday

[ClockShot]

Mariners release Richie Sexson.

[Evil Vito]

It's Matt Holliday

<font color=goldenrod>Holliday was already on the team, he just got upgraded to starter. Someone needs to take an extra spot on the bench since Sori can't play, hopefully it's Wright.

The AL will have the same issue with Ortiz being unable to play, Milton Bradley will prolly DH to start but someone else needs to be on the bench.</font>

[YOUR Hero]

I'll wager the Jays will pick up Sexson.

[OssMan]

Going to NY tommorow and seeing the METS on Saturday. Last time ever at Shea Stadium for me

[Gertner]

Jays come back and win. did not see that coming

[MVP]

Dan Haren has a good shot at starting for the NL. The way he's been playing lately I think he's the guy.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>David Wright replaces Alfonso Soriano</font> :heart:

[Evil Vito]

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<font color=goldenrod>LOL @ the girl</font> :o

[SammyG]

Yeah, that's terrible, in my opinion, save it for the club house. Prolly scarred that girl for life. Also, lol, the kid on his right, you can't see him, was licking his ice cream cone, which got beer poured ALL over it, and he continued licking it.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>7 in a row now. :cool:

Sucks that today's game is on FOX though, hate those.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Home run derby participants so far:

NL: Lance Berkman, Ryan Bruan, Dan Uggla, Chase Utley
AL: Josh Hamilton, Evan Longoria, Grady Sizemore

Another AL bat still needs to be added...I'd like to see Manny do it but he never does. Maybe Morneau?</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>LOL Tim Kurkjian "the only way the Mets can get Matt Holliday is by giving up David Wright or Jose Reyes"

funny....I seem to remember him saying the same thing about Santana. Granted, I highly doubt the Mets could get Holliday anyway because they have absolutely nothing in the farm system outside of Fernando Martinez and a couple of decent, but not great, pitching prospects. I wouldn't deal whatever is left for a good hitter who is vastly overrated because of his home park.</font>

[RP]

Does it seem odd to anyone else that the A's gave up Rich Hardin for average prospects? Is something wrong with him that i dont know about?

[RP]

God my predictions look TERRIBLE right now

lolz

I picked the Tigers. But they're getting hot. Too bad the White Sox and the Twins are too lolz

[RP]

Hardin seemed fine to me. 10k's in 5 shutout innings.

[YOUR Hero]

Does it seem odd to anyone else that the A's gave up Rich Hardin for average prospects? Is something wrong with him that i dont know about?

Just all his injuries. He'd be a Cy Young candidate every year if he could stay healthy. The A's are just moving him because they don't see his pattern of getting injured changing.

[SammyG]

Andruw Jones should participate in the Homerun Derby, and show everyone that he can't even hit the pitches they throw during that.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The Home Run Derby needs to take a tip from the Slam Dunk Competition and let non-All Stars compete in it. Nobody cares about how many 330 ft homers Grady Sizemore can get. People would much rather see Ryan Howard and Adam Dunn trying to hit balls off the facade.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

No matter who fills the final spot for the AL, I'm already set on picking Josh Hamilton to win. I saw him take BP for the Reds last year and he hits it further than Dunn when he wants to.

[Skippord]

The Rockies need to find a way to never play another road game again and I think they can win the World Series

[Skippord]

got a solid 7 combined hits in their last 3 games :|

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>8 in a row, now just a half game out of first :love:

Would be insane if the Mets wound up a half game in first place after the debacle that was their season up until this month. Santana might be in the bullpen for tomorrow night, I'd mark if they brought him in a save opportunity since Wagner has gone 3 straight days.</font> :shifty:

[RP]

THANK YOU CARLOS MARMOL

signed Rich Hardin.

[ClockShot]

WOW. Sad day for the empire.

Bobby Murcer died at age 62. :'(

Thanks for everything.

[Hanso Amore]

The Reds need to lock up Dunn NOW. He is fucking Ridiculous. If not, trade him for a kings ransom.

I actually have taken a liking to the reds, I really thought they would have a better year. I hope they et hot.

Also, Amen Supreme, I want to see Dunn and Howard rock the house.

People watch HR derby to see a 600 foot homerun, not batting practice.

Remember Big Hurt cranking one like 582 in Pitssburgh I think? That shit was CRAZY fun to watch.