MLB 2008 Season Thread

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wow the Yankees are 11 back in the division right now? Holy shit

[Gertner]

yankees are a half game out of 4th place. The Jays are surging.

[SammyG]

Dodgers can take the division lead today!!!

[Gertner]

The sooner the Jays deal B.J Ryan and name Brandon League the closer the better

[SammyG]

AHHHHH Manny strikes out with bases juiced and 2 outs :(

[Gertner]

holy hell Zaun hit a grand slam in the bottom of the 13th and the Jays win again!

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Red Sox couldn't capitalize on it (Rays losing to the Jays) but whatever as long as they make the playoffs I'm good with it. Still pretty solid right now for a playoff spot

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Huge double header today between the Mets and Phils...by nature double headers are difficult to sweep but now that it's September and both teams have a ton of extra pitchers I don't think that factors in.</font>

[YOUR Hero]

'some seattle guy'

[Gertner]

Jays sweep the Rays!!!! WOOOOOO!

[Innovator]

'some seattle guy'
saying hateful things ruins a no no, I had to go all out

[Gertner]

Hey Yankees, how does 4th place feel?

[SammyG]

WHAT UP WADDING

[YOUR Hero]

Arizona really has hit the skids, LOL

[YOUR Hero]

My boy, O-Dog is on there though. INjured, I know but he's 'ma boy.

[SammyG]

Gonna roll into the playoffs baby.

[Gertner]

O-Dog was amazing in Toronto. That trade still bugs me.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>LOL apparently the 55-88 San Diego Padres are still not officially eliminated from playoff contention. Good going, NL West.</font>

[SammyG]

You won't be LOLing so much when the Dodgers make the World Series. Freeway series.

[Gertner]

Dodgers ain't making shit with that starting rotation

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Christ, Billy Wagner out for 12 months with a torn MCL in his elbow.

Overrated as he might be, they pretty much have to go after K-Rod.</font>

[DaveWadding]

10 years 500 million

[Loose Cannon]

Yanks have had about 40 opportunities to catch teams and they continue to blow it.

[SammyG]

Lincecum threw like 130 pitches tonight.

[DaveWadding]

Lincecum threw like 130 pitches tonight.

He was RIDICULOUS. Thankfully that Asian dude you've never heard of before was pretty awesome too. :love:

[DaveWadding]

So, Jeezy, how did it feel getting beaten by the Padres AAA team? ;)

[ClockShot]

Hank came right out said it. "Joe Girardi will return next season"

Whatever.

[SammyG]

So, Jeezy, how did it feel getting beaten by the Padres AAA team? ;)
It feels good to be leading the NL West.

[Gertner]

Fucking Jays win again! 9 in a row!

[FakeLaser]

NEW YORK YANKEES REPORT

C - Ivan Rodriguez Sucks Balls. Jose Molina Sucks Balls.
1B - Jason Giambi Sucks Balls. Plz let him go
2B - Robinson Cano, my favorite player is terrible offensively and defensively
SS - Derek Jeter is having a somewhat down year but actually improved defensively
3B - I <3 A-Rod
LF - Johnny Damon. Yeah.
CF - No.
RF - Robert "Bob" Abreu is the worst defensive outfielder in MLB this year.
XAVIER NADYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Mike Mussina is the only reason to watch the team. Who the fuck would have thought? He better be coming back next year instead of Pettitte who is inconsistent as hell. I don't want to talk about the rest of the rotation. The bullpen also sucks now too, except Mariano Rivera is the best pitcher of all-time.

NEXT YEAR
C - Jorge Posada
1B - Mark Teixieria
2B - Robinson Cano
SS - Derek Jeter
3B - Alex Rodriguez
LF - Johnny Damon
CF - Austin Jackson
RF - Xavier Nady
DH - Hideki Matsui
BN - Wilson Betemit
BN - Jose Molina
BN - Melky Cabrera

SP - CC Sabathia
SP - Chien Ming-Wang
SP - Joba Chamberlain
SP - Mike Mussina
SP - Phil Hughes

CL - Mariano Rivera
RP - Brian Bruney
RP - Jose Veras
RP - Edwarrrrrrrr Ramirez
RP - Damaso Marte
RP - Alfredo Aveces
RP - PHIL COKE

Yeah then everyone will get hurt and we'll have Bartolo Colon, Mike Hampton and Chet Steadman in the starting rotation

[Gertner]

Jays up again. Going for 10 in a row.

[Gertner]

you ain't getting C.C AND Teixera btw. Spend some $ on your bullpen

[Gertner]

ugh, i can't listen to these homer White Sox announcers. I can understand a little bias, but blatanly cheering for a team is ridiculous. Right now they are pitching about a pitch that was CLEARLY a ball, because it went against them.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>If the Mets make the playoffs, Delgado can seriously win MVP. 2 more HRs tonight</font> :love:

[Gertner]

Jays up 8-2 in the 9th. 10 IN A ROW BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[YOUR Hero]

I knew Delgado wasn't done :heart:

Go Jays!

[DaveWadding]

ugh, i can't listen to these homer White Sox announcers. I can understand a little bias, but blatanly cheering for a team is ridiculous. Right now they are pitching about a pitch that was CLEARLY a ball, because it went against them.

If there is no other reason to hate the White Sux, Hawk and DJ are all the reasons you'd need.


But, I hate the White Sux cause they are a bunch of filthy dirty bitches.

[Gertner]

Dude, I've never seen anything like it. They acted like a bunch of babies. It was awful. I just loved as the Jays kept widening the lead, they kept whining more and more.

[DaveWadding]

the best part about those two pieces of shit is when they're losing they stop talking and it's like a fucking wake. :love:

[SammyG]

Wow Wadding, thanks for the rep..? Kinda suprised at that one.

EEETHIIER SHOWWWWW

[DaveWadding]

Wow Wadding, thanks for the rep..? Kinda suprised at that one.

EEETHIIER SHOWWWWW

Nah dont be...Im just fucking done with the D'Backs. tonight was the last straw pretty much. They took a 2 run lead right away...held it until the 6th, gave it up and then let the Giants push it to 2 runs in the 8th...Then tie it up in the 9th and the bullpen just goes and fucking blows it.

They dont want it. They had a 4.5 game lead two weeks ago and they let your fucking Dodgers wreck them home and away even though they'd lost 10 straight.

Now the Dodgers have the momentum and the D'Backs are fucked.

[SammyG]

Lakers>Suns
Dodgers> D-backs..

Ah yes. It's nice.

Thanks, though.

[DaveWadding]

and Rams > Rams...er....nah they just fucking suck too.

[FakeLaser]

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/ERAplus_career.shtml

GOAT

[Gertner]

the best part about those two pieces of shit is when they're losing they stop talking and it's like a fucking wake. :love:

lol the best part last night was after the sox got trounced in the second game of the double header they pretty much just said "thanks for watchig, bye". and that was it. I'm sure they are gonna be in a great mood today with Halladay pitching.

[OssMan]

Either show? What shows are we choosing between

[SammyG]

ETHIER. Not either.

You will know his name when he wrecks havoc in the playoffs.

[DaveWadding]

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s11/DaveWadding/IMG_2500_small.jpg

[SammyG]

uh. is that seriously andre.

[DaveWadding]

yeah. it was some rookie hazing shit. Theres one of Loney dressed as a sailor, and Chin Lung Hu dressed up as a medieval Chinaman or some shit.

http://www.sonsofstevegarvey.com/search?q=hazing+5

There.


Also, the D'Backs are a bunch of fucking losers. And they make me want to kill myself. :)

[SammyG]

LOLOLOLOL D-backs, COME ON now. I actually feel sorry for you... Lead gonna go up to 3.5 tonight.

Shawty got lowe lowe lowe lowe lowe lowe lowe lowe pitching

[SammyG]

FUCKING LOVE YOU MANNY RAMIREZ

[Gertner]

"sigh" it was a good streak while it lasted.

[YOUR Hero]

Missed last night's game, but the highlights showed Doc as being off with his stuff last night... or was it a case of the WSOX having good at bats?

[Gertner]

The Jays in general weren't real sharp. 3 errors, one by Halladay. Glad to see them not quick and almost make a comeback in the 9th off Jenks.

[YOUR Hero]

Darn Jays are up by 3 in game #2 of their double-header Vs the RSOX, but Litch just loaded the bases with no one out.

[ClockShot]

Astros and Cubs are gonna play their doubleheader today and final game tomorrow at Milwaukee due to Hurricane Ike. Even though Astros management claims zero to minimal damage occured at Minute Maid.

[Gertner]

Scott Downs. I'm disappointed in you.

[Dragon]

In shocking news, Carl Pavano comes out of the game with an injury.

[Dragon]

Derek Jeter tied Lou Gehrig for the most hits in Yankee Stadium with a HR though. Has 7 games after this one to get one more hit. Good stuff.

[Innovator]

In shocking news, Carl Pavano comes out of the game with an injury.
I'm shocked!

HOLY SHIT THE SKY IS BLUE!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>This NL East race is gonna fucking kill me. Painfully obvious it's gonna go right down to the last game of the year again. And...of course, the Mets already lost the coin toss for a possible tiebreaker</font> :roll:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Carlos Zambrano with the first Cubs no-hitter since Milt Pappas</font>

[RP]

YES YES YES

[YOUR Hero]

I heard it doesn't count because it was thrown in Milwaukee.

[YOUR Hero]

That's what C.C. is saying anyways.

[SammyG]

Dodgers.

[ClockShot]

Bold words, Mr. Posada.

Posada: More injury risk for Joba in rotation than in bullpen
Associated Press

NEW YORK -- Jorge Posada wants Joba Chamberlain kept in the bullpen and predicts more injuries for the young pitcher if the New York Yankees put him in their starting rotation.


"I think if you start him and he pitches 200 innings in one year, you're going to lose him. He's going to get hurt. I don't see him as a starter," Posada said Monday during a session of "CenterStage," scheduled to air on the team's YES Network starting Sept. 28.

Chamberlain, the hard-throwing righty who turns 23 next week, began the season in the Yankees bullpen and then moved to the rotation in June. The plan was to limit his innings early and then make him a full-time starter.

He was sidelined from Aug. 4 to Sept. 2 because of rotator cuff tendinitis and went back to the bullpen when he returned.

"A little tendinitis, it just tells you a lot," Posada said after the TV interview.

Chamberlain was 3-1 with a 2.76 ERA in 12 starts, striking out 74 in 65 1/3 innings. He's 1-2 with a 2.29 ERA in 24 relief appearances, fanning 34 in 28 2/3 innings.

"I see him as a reliever. I think his body is made up for a reliever," Posada said.

The 37-year-old catcher had season-ending shoulder surgery June 30 and expects to return behind the plate for New York next season, anticipating he can catch 120 to 130 games.

With the Yankees almost certain to miss the playoffs for the first time since 1993, he says the team must go into the free-agent market to repair its starting rotation. CC Sabathia, Ben Sheets and A.J. Burnett are their chief targets.

"We're pretty much going to be in it, but you don't know if those guys are going to want to come here," Posada said. "I hope they do."

On another topic, Posada voiced anger toward Pedro Martinez for the 2003 brawl between the Yankees and the Red Sox during the AL Championship Series.

"I thought he was going to hit me in the head with a bat, after we had the fight and he pushed Don Zimmer. It was ridiculous. I mean, he throws at Karim Garcia because he's losing the game. I mean, there's no class," Posada said.

It might have been an uncomfortable situation had Posada signed with the New York Mets after the 2007 season. He would have had to catch Martinez.

"You try to forget about the past and look forward," Posada said.

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Half of me wants to agree wtih him. But the other half doesn't.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Holy shit, Ned Yost fired.

I mean, he was clearly a goner if they didn't make the playoffs...but goddamn.</font>

[Sepholio]

Braves are gonna win the world series.

:shifty:

[ClockShot]

Yeah. Totally did not see Yost getting the ax this late in the season. I mean, Randolph was one thing. But what happened to wait and see?

[Dragon]

Pretty sure Posada isn't a doctor so I'm not really sure what he sees that makes him think Joba can't handle being a starter. He's been a starter in college and the minors so its not like its something new for him.

I really think it would be a waste leaving Joba in the pen.

One thing that needs to happen is to just give him a set role going into next season and not switch him back and forth from the bullpen to the rotation. Thats probably what caused the injury more than anything else.

[ClockShot]

Yanks have finally taken notice and thrown Robinson Cano in the daily doghouse.

Got benched yesterday for not running down a groundball. Girardi is gonna take this day by day and how long it goes.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Got tickets to Game 1 (or Game 3 depending on home field advantage) of the NLDS..........now to see if the Mets can actually get there</font> :(

[YOUR Hero]

Yeah Giradi going to be sending messages now that they're far out of the race? Wow. Tough call. Have you seen how many times BJ Upton's been benched this year for not running out ground balls? 2 or 3 times and he's a Tampa Ray in case you didn't know it. Giradi, while only a symptom, not the cause of the yank collapse this year is still not suited to be their bench boss.

[FakeLaser]

Posada is mad dumb

[ClockShot]

Heard Mussina went out with a bang last night for his final trip to the mound at the stadium. Definately gonna be watching these last 3 games at the 'ol homestead.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Shaun Marcum needs Tommy John, out for all of 2009.</font>

[ClockShot]

Good riddance, Pavano. I know you're up next week somewhere, but don't let the door hit ya on the way out tonight.

[Dragon]

Yeah Giradi going to be sending messages now that they're far out of the race? Wow. Tough call. Have you seen how many times BJ Upton's been benched this year for not running out ground balls? 2 or 3 times and he's a Tampa Ray in case you didn't know it. Giradi, while only a symptom, not the cause of the yank collapse this year is still not suited to be their bench boss.

Hopefully with this year of experience he has a better understanding of what to do next year. Girardi has been good at making straight up baseball and game decisions like how to use the bullpen, etc...but the "people" decisions he could have been better at.

I don't really think its a coincedence that Cano has been hitting better and busting his ass after the benching a couple days ago. Doing it in June would have been smarter. Cano is the kind of player that seems to need someone pushing him and thats what Larry Bowa did the past couple years. I think thats whats been missing with him this year.

But really, having one reliable starter and an inconsistent lineup is what killed the Yankees this year.

[ClockShot]

BOB SHEPARD!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dragon]

Nice to see him do the countdown thing. Too bad he couldn't be there for the last game.

[Dragon]

Wow, Jeter just hit on the hand by a pitch and taken out of the game.

Can't imagine whats he's thinking if he can't play the last game at Yankee Stadium tomorrow. He was obviously pissed about getting hit, which he isn't too often.

[YOUR Hero]

The Jays pitching will be awful next year. I'm gutted. Burnett will opt out, we won't be able to resign him, Marcum is out all next year, McGowan will start on the DL. We went from a great staff to shallow as a kiddie pool. I guess I can pray for some surprise signings and/or some star to emerge out of the farm system.

[DaveWadding]

CUBS CLINCH!

[ClockShot]

So do the the Devil Rays.

[SammyG]

Come on now, Dodgers.

[Innovator]

RONAN TYNAN

[MVP]

So glad Johnny Damon didn't end up being the last guy to hit a homer in Yankee Stadium. :foc:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol yeah, Jose Molina of all people gets the last HR.

Admittedly, as a Mets fan it makes me a bit sick knowing that if the situations were reversed and the Mets were closing, ESPN would have immediately switched to Sportscenter after the game rather than showing the ceremony. :o

But, can't deny the place has a fuckload of history. Glad I got to go to that Sunday night Yanks/Sox game this year before it went down.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Also, my friend thinks the Yanks are still gonna make the playoffs, winning every game the rest of the way whilst Boston loses, and then wind up with a Cubs/Yanks WS. :o

To his credit, he said he would admit that baseball's fixed if that happened</font>

[DaveWadding]

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[YOUR Hero]

If ever there was a time that the Yankees should have won a World Series it was there, in 2001. They did not.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>*Yankees win 2001 World Series*

*Jeter steps up to podium*

"......9/11"

*huge ovation*</font>

[Dragon]

Pretty crazy night. Figured they'd do something but wasn't sure what they would do after the game. Glad they didn't lose though, would have sucked to be officially eliminated on that night.

The whole actors dressed up as legends just standing in CF for an hour was a little lame but the rest was great to see. Was pretty fitting to see Bernie come back for the first time in two years. It feels like the last game of the season for me now. Hard to fathom that we still have two series left.

Hopefully it gets a little interesting and the Sox get swept by the Indians. Or at least lose tonight.

[Loose Cannon]

Luis Gonzalez bloop single off of Rivera :'(

that one fucking gutted me more so then any other time in sports

[Dragon]

Yankees alive another day.

Now they get to go into Toronto and sweep a series where Burnett and Halladay are pitching lol.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The Mets just gave Omar Minaya a 4-year contract extension despite the team collapsing yet again.</font> :|

[Dragon]

And the Yankees are officially out of it. Gotta be honest, the way this season has gone its amazing they were still in it with so few games left to play. Can still look forward to Mussina hopefully getting win #20 on the last game of the season.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>LOL Hank Steinbrenner is now whining about how the current divisional set up isn't fair. Funny, I doubt he would say a thing if his team didn't get eliminated. Hank seems to cry and call for a change in the game every time something doesn't go his way (like when Wang got hurt, clearly it was the NL's fault for making him hit!)

---

Anywho, Santana. :love: 125 pitches to save the bullpen.

Going to Wednesday's game. Perez vs. Zambrano...seems pretty one sided but Ollie's usually a big game pitcher, so we'll see. It's seemingly a 50/50 chance on if it's the last game I'll ever attend at Shea.</font> :o

[OssMan]

lol @ Yankees

[DaveWadding]

<font color=goldenrod>

Anywho, Santana. :love: 125 pitches to save the bullpen.

</font>

LOL more like "to save himself FROM the bullpen"

[Hanso Amore]

Can someone explain roster expansion to me? How many guys do they call up, when and how? Never understood it.

[Evil Vito]

LOL more like "to save himself FROM the bullpen"

<font color=goldenrod>Fuck you, you know damn well Johan would be the Cy Young winner instead of Webbie if the bullpen didn't cock up half his starts in the first half that got him off to a 7-7 start. :(
</font>
:p

[Evil Vito]

Can someone explain roster expansion to me? How many guys do they call up, when and how? Never understood it.

<font color=goldenrod>Basically on September 1st, each MLB team is allowed to expand their roster from 25 to as many as 40, although I can't really think of a big league team that's ever called up 15 additional guys.

So in a nutshell, from September 1st until the end of the regular season, your team can be anywhere from 25 to 40 guys. It's a good way for teams out of the race to test out their top prospects since the minor league season ends in September.

The 8 teams that make the postseason then have to get their roster back down to 25 for the playoffs and they can adjust their roster after each series.</font>

[SammyG]

Magic number down to 3 !

[FakeLaser]

Johan Santana - Quality starts: 27
Wins: 15

[SammyG]

Kinda hope we play the Mets just so their bullpen can blow every lead imaginable.

[Hanso Amore]

Manny would feast on the mets.

[ClockShot]

Andy Pettitte is done for the season.

Doesn't matter now. :'(

[Cooler Tom Schuler]

Twins now just half a game back, getting rather exciting.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>This Mets game tonight just about killed me. Easily the most exciting game I've ever seen live...and Delgado's grand slam has probably been the coolest live sports moment for me.

Yet....in the end it wound up being the most depressing loss I'd ever been in attendance for. Not being able to score the winning run against the worst reliever on the Cubs roster despite starting off with a leadoff triple...heartbreaking.</font> :(

[SammyG]

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDGERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Hanso Amore]

Dodgers got Furcal and kent back.

They are going to be lethal in the playoffs. if the brewers dont make the playoffs, the Cubs are the only team that has the pitching to succeed in the playoffs.

[SammyG]

God, with Furcal back.... Although he won't be a starter, he might play like half the game or something, dunno. I don't give a shit about Kent, he is a douchebag, and I will be glad to see him retire after this year. He can get some hits for us though while his bitchass is still around.

ANYWAY. Dodgers could wrap it up here in like 3 hours, if Arizona loses this game.

[Hanso Amore]

Furcal gives them a great pinch runner at minimum.

[SammyG]

We win the NL West!!!!!! LOL @ D-backs not even putting up a fight.

[DaveWadding]

Nah dont be...Im just fucking done with the D'Backs. tonight was the last straw pretty much. They took a 2 run lead right away...held it until the 6th, gave it up and then let the Giants push it to 2 runs in the 8th...Then tie it up in the 9th and the bullpen just goes and fucking blows it.

They dont want it. They had a 4.5 game lead two weeks ago and they let your fucking Dodgers wreck them home and away even though they'd lost 10 straight.

Now the Dodgers have the momentum and the D'Backs are fucked.

From like 2 weeks ago.

[SammyG]

BOOYAH!

[SammyG]

Will be pissed though if Milwaukee gets the Wildcard. That means we would have to face the gay Cubs in the first round.

[ClockShot]

Rays fail to shut the door. This may go down to the last game.

Blue Jays fans rejoice, Cito Gaston is gonna stick around for another 2 years.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Welp, I'm all but certain last night was my last ever game at Shea. I kinda wish they could get eliminated before Sunday so that the last game at Shea can at least be savored without a postseason berth looming.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Holy fuck. They shut me up. :o

I just don't even know anymore. All I know is that this is what pennant-race baseball is all about.</font>

[SammyG]

I am rooting like crazy for the Mets from now on. If the Brewers win the Wildcard, Dodgers get the Cubbies. BULLSHITTTTT

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Should be an interesting weekend. I think/hope that Lou Piniella is well aware that the Mets are the easiest possible first round matchup because of their bullpen (and his team has just seen everyone in the bullpen and blasted them)...and so for that reason, I hope he plays to win each game this weekend to try and help the Mets in.</font>

[Gertner]

Good to see Cito's coming back and Halladay get his 20th win.

[SammyG]

Prince Fielder swings at every pitch thrown to him, jesus.

[MVP]

David Aardsma sucks balls

[ClockShot]

HA HA HA!

Rays get the AL East. :D

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>My God...Johan Santana...CG Shutout, 3 hits, 9 K's, 117 pitches...on three days rest after a career high 125 pitch game.

He will finish 3rd in the Cy Young due to the Wins stat...but my God. :eek:

GO CUBS GO</font>

[Heros Welcome]

JOHAN FUCKING CYTANA!!

[DaveWadding]

<font color=goldenrod>GO CUBS GO</font>

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[SammyG]

Go Mets tommorrow, Go Cubs, too.

[ClockShot]

Yanks/Sox end it all with a doubleheader tomorrow.

Shortly after, the offseason thread will be up.

[Loose Cannon]

Shortly after, the offseason thread will be up.

rofl

[YOUR Hero]

In the last 3 years only 6 teams have had winning records each year. 5 of them have been in the playoffs. Mets, Yankees, Red Sox, Angels, Dodgers. Only the Jays have not :mad: :'(

[Loose Cannon]

you know Hank was being a huge sore loser and arguing that the AL East was a hard division and everything, but with the way things are, I wouldn't be surprised if there was some shakeups with divisions soon.

[Innovator]

Moose get the 20th

Mets fall apart

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I originally thought it was a stupid idea to do the Shea closing ceremonies after the game in case they lost.....but I must say, seeing Seaver and Piazza closing the outfield walls of Shea gave me chills.</font>

[ClockShot]

Congrats to the Moose. Hope he'll stick around for another few seasons. Would love the guy to crack 300 and call it a carrer. The cake would be iced if we sweep out. :D

COLLAPSE 2008! What's the problem? The Management or the Players?

[MVP]

Went to the afternoon Sox/Yankees game today and saw Johnny Pesky's #6 retired. Too bad the game sucked.

Between seeing Manny hit his 500th homerun in Baltimore and seeing Pesky's number hung up at Fenway, I've seen a good share of Red Sox history this year.

[Innovator]

Congrats to the Moose. Hope he'll stick around for another few seasons. Would love the guy to crack 300 and call it a carrer. The cake would be iced if we sweep out. :D

COLLAPSE 2008! What's the problem? The Management or the Players?
Moose said he has to commit to 3 years if he stays. Walking away now at 270 would be easier than walking away at 283 or 285.

[SammyG]

Dodgers Cubbies.

[Hanso Amore]

I feel for you mets fans.

Sucks to be you.

[Hanso Amore]

And CC made himself a rich man. he is going to get 230 million easy.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The Mets have announced Jerry Manuel will remain manager of the team, which I agree with whole-heartedly. Every player on the team has praised his people skills...and truthfully, it's not his fault he's had to make a million pitching changes every night since Wagner went down.

I pray Omar Minaya's planned 4 year contract extension is ripped up. I think he should be fired personally, but if they NEED to keep him around...the Wilpons should tell him he's got one year to get a bullpen and make the playoffs, or he's gone.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Jerry revamp his coaching staff...and pretty much everyone in the bullpen other than Joe Smith I can see going.</font>

[Dragon]

Really doubt he will get that much money. He will probably beat out Santana for the biggest contract for a pitcher but I would be shocked if he eclipses Santana's contract like that.

[ClockShot]

J.T. Snow signs a 1-day contract with the Giants and retires.

[Triple A]

Fucking gay Mets. I am glad.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Shit. :o The Nationals won so now they are gonna get to draft one of the most hyped up pitching prospects in a long time, Stephen "102 MPH fastball" Strasburg.</font>

[Hanso Amore]

Really doubt he will get that much money. He will probably beat out Santana for the biggest contract for a pitcher but I would be shocked if he eclipses Santana's contract like that.

I dunno, he is a bi younger than santana, I could see him getting a 10 year deal.

[Gertner]

good to see Litsch end the year on a high note. Considering where the Jays were at the break, I'm pretty pleased with how they ended up.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Awards

American League
MVP: Justin Morneau
Cy Young: Cliff Lee
Rookie of the Year: Evan Longoria
Comeback: Cliff Lee
Manager: Joe Maddon

National League
MVP: Albert Pujols
Cy Young: Tim Lincecum
Rookie of the Year: Geovanny Soto (even though Votto's better and had a better year :mad:)
Comeback: Brad Lidge
Manager: Lou Piniella

[Hanso Amore]

Awards

American League
MVP: Justin Morneau
Cy Young: Cliff Lee
Rookie of the Year: Evan Longoria
Comeback: Cliff Lee
Manager: Joe Maddon

National League
MVP: Albert Pujols
Cy Young: Tim Lincecum
Rookie of the Year: Geovanny Soto (even though Votto's better and had a better year :mad:)
Comeback: Brad Lidge
Manager: Lou Piniella

You gotta look at the positions on ROY.

Votto had a great year, but was on par with bruce, and they play 1B and OF and put up average numbers for those spots. Soto was the best offensive catcher in the NL. I think Soto has topped of and Votto and bruce will be much better, but Soto was defintely the ROY.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I wouldn't be surprised if the Mets didn't get a single award this year. Beltran MIGHT win another Gold Glove and at least be in contention for a Silver Slugger, but I can think of guys with better stats.

Outside of him, the only other guy with a chance at anything is Santana for a Gold Glove and probably #2 or #3 in Cy Young voting. I can't get the fielding stats up on MLB.com, but I have a feeling that if the numbers are close they'll give the GG to Maddux just because it's Maddux. Kinda hope Johan gets it though, exciting as hell to watch his starts.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>And some clubs have already begun the re-signing process, as Kyle Lohse gets a 4-year deal from the Cardinals.

This can probably be unstickied.</font>

[ClockShot]

White Sox beat the Tiggers.

1 game playoff between the Sox and Twins to see who rules the AL Central.

[Loose Cannon]

where did you get this news from?

[ClockShot]

Ummmm. ESPN 2 had the game on this afternoon. Playoff game is tomorrow.........

[SammyG]

lol LC

[Cooler Tom Schuler]

I'm not feeling optimistic about tomorrow. It just doesn't feel good, but I'll hold out hope.

[ClockShot]

And the stage is set. The Chicago White Sox are your AL Central champs. Winning 1-0.

First time in 102 years both Chicago ball clubs are in the playoffs.

[Loose Cannon]

how the heck do you know so much?

[ClockShot]

The only way you could get info on this game was on ESPN radio, lived in the area and some channel had it on, or jump onto ESPN.com and watch the gamecast.

I figured ESPN would preempt poker or the college football game and put this on.

[Evil Vito]

The only way you could get info on this game was on ESPN radio, lived in the area and some channel had it on, or jump onto ESPN.com and watch the gamecast.

I figured ESPN would preempt poker or the college football game and put this on.

<font color=goldenrod>You must not get TBS then.</font> :o

[Loose Cannon]

TBS had it on.

[YOUR Hero]

I was really hoping for the Twins to get in. That was a pretty good game.

[SammyG]

Yeah it was. Outstanding pitching performances by both starters, suprisingly.