Red Dead Redemption

[The Destroyer]

This game hates my horses. Had another one killed after a cougar took it out from underneath me.

[G]

Boom :cool:

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/961/s22.jpg



All that's left is 500 kills with a Gatling Gun and rank 50. Gonna pass on those. Now I can finally play something else. :)

[alvarado52]

Boom :cool:

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/961/s22.jpg



All that's left is 500 kills with a Gatling Gun and rank 50. Gonna pass on those. Now I can finally play something else. :)






pretty sweet. Yknow, once i hit my 100k, i kinda stopped caring about achievements...guess cuz there is no real 'milestone' to be had beyond that really

[Ermaximus]

Boom :cool:

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/961/s22.jpg



All that's left is 500 kills with a Gatling Gun and rank 50. Gonna pass on those. Now I can finally play something else. :)






Congrats. How long did it take you?

[BigDaddyCool]

I don't get rushing through games.

[Ermaximus]

I don't get rushing through games.

You, Jayman, and I need to form a posse soon on this game.

[BigDaddyCool]

Don't have internet at home, still.

[G]

Congrats. How long did it take you?

Since my game time is glitched and shows almost 5 days, I'm gonna guess around 40 or 50 hours maybe.

[G]

I don't get rushing through games.


That's wonderful. Some of us don't have anything to do but play video games all day.

[BigDaddyCool]

Get a job?

[BigDaddyCool]

Or a girlfriend?

[BigDaddyCool]

Or maybe even both? Seriously, loser.

[Hanso Amore]

I bought this the other night

HAvent played free roam multiplayer yet.

handiddy is the name if you want to hook up (in a non gay way)

[Kane Knight]

I bought this the other night

HAvent played free roam multiplayer yet.

handiddy is the name if you want to hook up (in a non gay way)
What if I want to hook up in a gay way, Hanson ole buddy?

[Hanso Amore]

Well then you need to skip Read Dead and find my Adult Friend Finder account!!!!

[Kane Knight]

hawt

[G]

Get a job?

Or a girlfriend?

Or maybe even both? Seriously, loser.


I'll do you one better. I have something you don't have, a wife.

[RoXer]

hahaha

[El Fangel]

Little help on duels guys, they are getting frustrating.

[RoXer]

Aim for nothing but the head/chest. When you draw, don't shoot legs. Move your cursor over head/chest and then unload.

[El Fangel]

What buttons? LT to aim and RT to shoot I hope, whats the bar on the right for?

[Kane Knight]

I'll do you one better. I have something you don't have, a wife.

He traded his in.

[Kane Knight]

Finished her in pretty good time, too.

[Kane Knight]

What buttons? LT to aim and RT to shoot I hope, whats the bar on the right for?

LT to Draw, RT to shoot. You want to fill the meter faster/fuller than your opponent, not sure which. I alsways shoot for the disarm, and usually can get things right with a single shot, so I'm not entirely sure if you have to top it, or what.

[DaveWadding]

Aim for nothing but the head/chest. When you draw, don't shoot legs. Move your cursor over head/chest and then unload.

or you can shoot the gun out of their hand.

[El Fangel]

Thanks guys, this was pissing me off. Rep when I get home.

[Requiem]

Yeah BDC goozexed his wife. Duh, G. :roll:

[Hanso Amore]

She cant fit in the mail duders....she is massive

[Kane Knight]

You also want to have the reticule in the white.

It's funny, because it made sense to me that it would be red=good, white=bad. I'm not sure if I'm alone there, but I figured I'd mention it since it's counter-intuitive in my book.

[G]

We should all get together in a private free roam, and do a King of the Hill type deal on the roof of this building in Blackwater. I used this rooftop to get my Wanted challenges and stuff, and found it pretty fun when this guy tried his hardest to kill me, since there is only 1 ladder to get up there. There is also another rooftop a block or two away that is in range to shoot who(m)ever is up there. I think this could be a lot of fun.

The building is across the street from the train station and has a Welcome to Blackwater banner.

[alvarado52]

im down

[Drakul]

Here's a trailer for that short film on Fox. No idea if and when they'll show it outside the US but that's what YouTube's for.
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[G]

Aside from the advertised co op missions, were there any other DLC packs announced, like GTA 4's?

[BigDaddyCool]

I'll do you one better. I have something you don't have, a wife.

You can still get a girlfriend.

[Drakul]

Aside from the advertised co op missions, were there any other DLC packs announced, like GTA 4's?

Nothing specific but they did say there would be more DLC to buy after this free MP DLC.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I've played this a bit since the weekend. It's got a great atmosphere and presentation, really good package all round but the gameplay is pretty disappointing. It really is just GTA in the Wild West. I think that works better as a concept than the original setting but it's tired as a gameplay format. It's still "go here, cut scene, take a while to get there and have a chat along the way, cut scene, do this, shoot everyone, go back, cut scene." There's a lot of ropey stuff that is familiar to GTA as well, like the "super-imposed" feeling of the character on the environment, some annoyance with the 3rd person perspective, horses being novel forms of cars rather than behaving like actual horses. The scale is impressive, but spending 90% of the game running along barren roads to get anywhere is a poor pay-off.

I appreciate all the work that has gone into it and it's enjoyable, but it's not no where near as absorbing as Fallout 3 was.

[El Fangel]

Must agree with ECG on one thing, its boring as all get oyt riding from point A to point B.

And dying randomly and having to run/ride back to where you died from a town is a bit World of Warcraftish in nature.

Still love the game though.

[Johnny McNasty]

Starting to feel the same way as ECG and FA. The game does a good job of pulling you into its world, and making you feel like you are really in the wild west. The only problem is rip away that, and you have GTA with out any new features. Actually I say GTAIV had better missions, and gameplay. I can't get myself to play this at all hardly after beating it. Which is weird, because I thought I would surely wanna go back through and do an outlaw playthrough. Just not feeling it anymore. Actually would have to say I enjoyed Alan Wake more than this.

[El Fangel]

That doesn't raise my hopes much. Ill likely move on and finish fable 2 or Mass Effect first then come back.

Oh and fuck mountain lions. :mad:

[BigDaddyCool]

I'm having fun with the riding back and forth. Fuck the story, I'm killing boars

[Hanso Amore]

Where do you find boars?

[Fignuts]

Mexico and up north.

[Requiem]

I've played this a bit since the weekend. It's got a great atmosphere and presentation, really good package all round but the gameplay is pretty disappointing. It really is just GTA in the Wild West. I think that works better as a concept than the original setting but it's tired as a gameplay format. It's still "go here, cut scene, take a while to get there and have a chat along the way, cut scene, do this, shoot everyone, go back, cut scene." There's a lot of ropey stuff that is familiar to GTA as well, like the "super-imposed" feeling of the character on the environment, some annoyance with the 3rd person perspective, horses being novel forms of cars rather than behaving like actual horses. The scale is impressive, but spending 90% of the game running along barren roads to get anywhere is a poor pay-off.

I appreciate all the work that has gone into it and it's enjoyable, but it's not no where near as absorbing as Fallout 3 was.

Considering it's not an RPG, I don't know what you were expecting out of it. Adding certain FO3 features would change the game's genre and scope completely, and I don't think they were trying to go for that. Far too much of the game would need to be different.

The only time you should really be spending 'mindlessly running' is during a mission. The rest of the time, stagecoaches and quick travel from camp take a LOT of the downtime out of the game. Best, and probably most 'taken for granted' feature in the game is easily the quick travel/save from your camp.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Yes I know about fast travel. I think you missed the point. I explained that the nature of the missions is formulaic and repetitive, especially considering it's exactly the same as GTA going back ten years now.

I didn't expect anything. I just don't think the gameplay lives up to the presentation. I did think the game may be an absorbing experience, but it's simply not. In fact it feels like a chore sometimes.

The reference to Fallout 3 is down to the similar attempt at scale and a barren, hostile environment. It's not the RPG element that absorbed me in Fallout 3, but the seemingly endless detail and encounters possible. Red Dead Redemption does want to emulate that but the little encounters quickly become tiresome because (a) you've seen them all pretty quickly and (b) the side missions are exactly the same i.e. go here, talk to him, go back again.

Rock Star are obviously good at tarting games up but their gameplay formula is massively tired.

[BigDaddyCool]

Where do you find boars?

Your mama's house.

No, I kid. Near Hang Man's rock outside of Cholla Springs. I've only played 2 days now, I figured they were common.

[BigDaddyCool]

Yes I know about fast travel. I think you missed the point. I explained that the nature of the missions is formulaic and repetitive, especially considering it's exactly the same as GTA going back ten years now.

I didn't expect anything. I just don't think the gameplay lives up to the presentation. I did think the game may be an absorbing experience, but it's simply not. In fact it feels like a chore sometimes.

The reference to Fallout 3 is down to the similar attempt at scale and a barren, hostile environment. It's not the RPG element that absorbed me in Fallout 3, but the seemingly endless detail and encounters possible. Red Dead Redemption does want to emulate that but the little encounters quickly become tiresome because (a) you've seen them all pretty quickly and (b) the side missions are exactly the same i.e. go here, talk to him, go back again.

Rock Star are obviously good at tarting games up but their gameplay formula is massively tired.

Now I'm trying not to use the "I would like to see you do better" argument, but what do you want from missions and side quests? What would be less fomulamatic and less tiring?

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I don't know. I'm not in the game design business. I'm just saying I find the gameplay doesn't live up to the presentation.

[BigDaddyCool]

Now I could be wrong, but there are only so many game play elements you can have, so many stories you can tell. I think unless someone truely genious comes around and works out a completely unthought of story, all we are working on is improving everything around the game play.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

The gameplay and mission design is EXACTLY the same as in GTA. I stopped playing GTA4 after maybe an hour or two. I'm still playing this because the world and story they've created is interesting enough to put up with the gameplay to go further in, but the missions are dangerously close to boring. I am hoping things get more interesting in terms of missions as time goes on. I think a 1st person perspective may even have made the gameplay better just because of the effect on combat.

[Requiem]

I just don't get the complaints about one being so similar to another, when the same comparisons could be drawn between FO3 and Oblivion. FO3 wasn't an improvement on that game at all, and they were more similar in feel/gameplay than RDR is to GTA, IMO. FO3 was an extremely lazily developed game, IMO. It lacks polish.

What I'm saying is... why complain that one game is too similar to another, and then say "But this game was great" when it did the exact same thing you're accusing the other of?

I just find RDR to be a far better attempt at 'using something that works', than the other did.

[BigDaddyCool]

So ECG, what do you want? What sort of missions where you hoping for?

[Requiem]

Not saying I don't see the comparisons between RDR and GTA either. I just think they did a better job changing time periods and implementing new features than 'those other guys'.

[El Fangel]

Req, fast travel is great I use it a lot but you miss out on helping people to get honor and fame and random bunches of animals. Damned if ya do, damned if ya don't.

ECG - def get what you are saying, just a question. How different did you expect a huge sandbox game by Rockstar to be from GTA? Besides the obvious time setting. I agree it has an enormous amount of gameplay elements that are the same but I can't say I didn't expect them.

[BigDaddyCool]

ECG - def get what you are saying, just a question. How different did you expect a huge sandbox game by Rockstar to be from GTA? Besides the obvious time setting. I agree it has an enormous amount of gameplay elements that are the same but I can't say I didn't expect them.

Exactly, it is like complainting that CoD:MW2 has the same gameplay elements of the other Call of Duties. That is the point.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Req, fast travel is great I use it a lot but you miss out on helping people to get honor and fame and random bunches of animals. Damned if ya do, damned if ya don't.

ECG - def get what you are saying, just a question. How different did you expect a huge sandbox game by Rockstar to be from GTA? Besides the obvious time setting. I agree it has an enormous amount of gameplay elements that are the same but I can't say I didn't expect them.

It was emphasised in the publicity for the game that it's not just GTA in the Wild West but actually that's exactly what it is.

It would not be a big deal if I didn't find the GTA games increasingly dull as time went on.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Exactly, it is like complainting that CoD:MW2 has the same gameplay elements of the other Call of Duties. That is the point.

Nope. If the gameplay is enjoyable then updates to the setting and the presentation are fine, the issue for me is that the GTA mission format was dull, formulaic and therefore so is this.

Multi-player may be great but I haven't really tried it yet.

[Requiem]

At any point, you can stop doing main missions and go explore, encounter random content, do side missions (of which you'll usually have several going at a time), do gang hideouts, collect pieces for outfits, play minigames, or just wreak havoc if that's what does it for you. Even the main missions can still be done in whatever order you choose up to a certain point. I realize that's similar to GTA, but how can it get less formulaic for you?

Don't see how the series could get any less 'formulaic' than that. Going to go with BDC on this.. what is it that you want that would make it less formulaic? How do you feel it could be improved? Even the mission types were varied enough between assaulting forts, escorting people, having stagecoach chases, holding off trains with a gatlin gun.. etc.. that they never got 'tiring' or boring at all.

[BigDaddyCool]

So not really your cup of tea?

[Requiem]

Hell, the list of challenges alone is enough to give you a 'purpose' if you want a break from the rest. Free-roam challenges as well are RIDICULOUS. There are so many of them, I'll probably never even complete a third of them.

[BigDaddyCool]

Hell, the list of challenges alone is enough to give you a 'purpose' if you want a break from the rest. Free-roam challenges as well are RIDICULOUS. There are so many of them, I'll probably never even complete a third of them.

All it is, is just shooting stuff and riding on a horse, I expected more.[/ECG]

[El Capitano Gatisto]

So not really your cup of tea?

Yeah basically. GTA peaked with Vice City for me. San Andreas was pretty good too but after I mastered flying in it, I couldn't be bothered. The side stuff got a little ridiculous too, having to exercise and have a girlfriend and that. I was excited for this, but right when I'd expect to be getting more into this game I am starting to get a little bored of it instead. I'll definitely still finish it but I don't see it having much longevity. There's nothing occupying me aside from just doing the main missions.

[BigDaddyCool]

Ok, but you do know sandbox games aren't just about missions.

[BigDaddyCool]

Wait...hold on, ECG you said the main missions are boring and formulamatic yet they are the only thing occupying you? I think the problem is you, not the game.

[Requiem]

^Yeah. I'm guessing that has something to do with why my most of my posts went ignored, and why he won't give suggestions of improvement.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

^Yeah. I'm guessing that has something to do with why my most of my posts went ignored, and why he won't give suggestions of improvement.

I replied to nearly all of your posts? I don't see the point in repeating myself, either. I've told you I find the gameplay tired, not sure how many times I need to say it.

I already said I'm not a games designer, it's not my job to improve the game. I've said the GTA format is tired, that implies it doesn't work for me any longer. So an improvement would be a model overhaul. This presentation and design, but with a different gameplay model, would probably make a brilliant game instead of just a fairly impressive, but limited, one. Fundamentally, the gameplay is not fresh and enjoyable and the missions are too samey, too formulaic.

Other things that bother me about the game is the behaviour of the horses: there is a token nod to them being animals with minds of their own but not nearly substantial enough. These things should buck you off if you try to run them through cactuses or at buildings, they shouldn't be able to brake like cars. The main character controls much the same way as in GTA so he feels a little unresponsive and "super-imposed" on the environment rather than being an actual part of it, though I know this is a facet of it being a 3rd person game. It looks very untidy at times and really hasn't changed any over the years. I think 3rd person games work much better as in Uncharted and God of War, where the gameplay follows a fixed layout and they can get the angles right.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Wait...hold on, ECG you said the main missions are boring and formulamatic yet they are the only thing occupying you? I think the problem is you, not the game.

No, ALL the missions are dull and formulaic. Exploring the world in this game gets old pretty fast, so the only thing keeping me playing it is going through the main storyline.

[alvarado52]

You do realize this is a sandbox type game, right? And like all sandbox games, its as fun as your imagination lets it be. Sure, you can do 'missions' and storyline stuff, but its the amount of freedom given to allow you to do so much other random shit.

Look at G's post earlier. There is no 'king of the hill' gametype, but you can damn sure have a king of the hill game if you and your buddies want. Its all about thinking beyond what the game tells you to do.

[Verbose Minch]

ECG, I'd love to know what you were expecting mission wise, or gameplay wise.

[BigDaddyCool]

No, ALL the missions are dull and formulaic. Exploring the world in this game gets old pretty fast, so the only thing keeping me playing it is going through the main storyline.

Gotcha, you are a retard.

[Requiem]

"I'm not a game developer" is a terrible excuse.

You're not a politician, but you've sure got opinions on politics and how they should be doing things. So who cares if you're not a game developer? You're a GAMER (for the most part), and gamers should at least know what they like in games and how they think a game could be better.

Honestly, if you didn't have fun defending a moving train from dozens of bad guys, or racing across the countryside in a wagon while groups of people chase you and shoot at you, or assaulting a fort... then well, I fear there is little hope for you and you should just quit playing the game all-together, as its fun is lost on you.

[Requiem]

And yeah, if you thought ALL the missions were 'dull and formulaic', then I'm going with option BDC.

[Requiem]

ECG, I'd love to know what you were expecting mission wise, or gameplay wise.

And this.. still have yet to hear what you expected from this game other than 'not GTA'. :roll:

[Hanso Amore]

God, I love the fan boy rage at ECG for stating that he thinks doing the same thing over and over is dull....

He never said it should have been X, or he expected X, just stated a fact that he find the missions lacking. I dont think he was even really "bashing the game". I agree, the Rockstar MO gets old quick, but I still like the games.

[Requiem]

There's no 'fan boy rage'. Nobody has really disagreed that the features are similar to GTA. I think it is just dumb that he complained that the game was just like its predecessor, and cited Fallout 3 as a game he could 'get into' that was better, when that game was a horrible copy of Oblivion in a different time period laid over an existing IP.

It's very hypo-something or another..

[alvarado52]

i wouldnt call Fallout 3 horrible. That game was pretty f'n terrific tbh, but i do see your point. Game play wise people expected Fallout 3 to have alot of similarities to Oblivion, just the same, people should expect RDR and GTA to have similar styles.

Lemme put it this way, im not gonna barge in and complain about Halo Reach being similar to Halo 3. I'll leave stupid posts like that to Fallen Angel.

[alvarado52]

Also, a second thought: having a change of scenery over core game play mechanics isnt always a bad thing. I wasnt never a big fan of GTA, but with RDR, the climate change does it for me. Just the same, I have Oblivion about 10 hours worth of play and couldnt get into it, but with Fallout 3 i was hooked within 2 hours.

[Requiem]

On another note... still wish hardcore didn't suck. Was really pumped for that when I saw it as a gametype, but it is pretty terrible. Weapons should do WAY more damage, or you should just have WAY less health. Would make it a much better gametype.

Edit: Am getting a lot better at regular gang matches. Yeah, I use normal targeting, but I am understanding more about 'how' to play this game in MP. Gotta be sneakier and can't just run around blasting people like crazy.

[Requiem]

Also, do you only get XP for completing challenges in MP (not free-roam)? If so, that is kind of dumb. You should definitely get XP for killing people or capturing objectives.

[El Fangel]

It was emphasised in the publicity for the game that it's not just GTA in the Wild West but actually that's exactly what it is.

It would not be a big deal if I didn't find the GTA games increasingly dull as time went on.

They peaked at San Andreas imo, when you could actually fucking swim.

Nope. If the gameplay is enjoyable then updates to the setting and the presentation are fine, the issue for me is that the GTA mission format was dull, formulaic and therefore so is this.

Multi-player may be great but I haven't really tried it yet.

Multiplayer is amazing with groups of people when it doesn't lag you out.

i wouldnt call Fallout 3 horrible. That game was pretty f'n terrific tbh, but i do see your point. Game play wise people expected Fallout 3 to have alot of similarities to Oblivion, just the same, people should expect RDR and GTA to have similar styles.

Lemme put it this way, im not gonna barge in and complain about Halo Reach being similar to Halo 3. I'll leave stupid posts like that to Fallen Angel.

Is Fallout 3 really THAT good?

As for the Halo games, they will be basically the same though you are playing through different parts of the story of Halo not just what feels like Halo 3, with a few new things added.

[alvarado52]

They peaked at San Andreas imo, when you could actually fucking swim.



Multiplayer is amazing with groups of people when it doesn't lag you out.



Is Fallout 3 really THAT good?

As for the Halo games, they will be basically the same though you are playing through different parts of the story of Halo not just what feels like Halo 3, with a few new things added.

1) you can swim in GTA4

2) Fallout 3 really is THAT good

3) did you even read any posts? Thats my whole point...the Halo games dont deviate from gameplay much, only storyline. The core mechanics remain the same. The same is said for Fallout/Oblivion, GTA/RDR, etc etc.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

i wouldnt call Fallout 3 horrible. That game was pretty f'n terrific tbh, but i do see your point. Game play wise people expected Fallout 3 to have alot of similarities to Oblivion, just the same, people should expect RDR and GTA to have similar styles.

Lemme put it this way, im not gonna barge in and complain about Halo Reach being similar to Halo 3. I'll leave stupid posts like that to Fallen Angel.

Read what I am saying. I never said games following the same engine were bad per se. Fallout 3 and Oblivion I both thought were great. Both Uncharted games I thought were great. I haven't got God of War 3 yet, but the first two were excellent. It comes down to whether the gameplay has mileage or not over whether I feel I enjoy the game or not.

I had hoped the RDR would not be basically a GTA sequel in a new outfit, given that the publicity expressly stated it would not be. I expected similarities but it's essentially a sequel/prequel whatever.

[alvarado52]

no i get what youre saying, and i understand your gripes about it...im simply saying that you couldnt have been THAT shocked that RDR bares a strong similarity to GTA's mechanics.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

There's no 'fan boy rage'. Nobody has really disagreed that the features are similar to GTA. I think it is just dumb that he complained that the game was just like its predecessor, and cited Fallout 3 as a game he could 'get into' that was better, when that game was a horrible copy of Oblivion in a different time period laid over an existing IP.

It's very hypo-something or another..

Don't use the word if you don't know what it means, never mind being able to spell it.

I like the way I get accused of insulting people who disagree with me when you and BDC are actually chucking out insults over an opinion of a fucking game.

[Requiem]

FO3 sucked because of the engine behind the game. The features were fine.. the world was fine. The technical side of the game was a mess, and it made me not want to play the game at all.

[alvarado52]

i mean, how far could they deviate from a sandbox style game?

[Requiem]

Don't use the word if you don't know what it means, never mind being able to spell it.

I like the way I get accused of insulting people who disagree with me when you and BDC are actually chucking out insults over an opinion of a fucking game.

:roll: I wasn't going to flat out say "You're retarded" until I saw the first line of this quote, but I'm pretty sure you're retarded.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

no i get what youre saying, and i understand your gripes about it...im simply saying that you couldnt have been THAT shocked that RDR bares a strong similarity to GTA's mechanics.

I'm not shocked...I believe the word I used was "disappointed." I'll get over it.

Hoping multi-player might be good but I don't know anyone else who has got it yet.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

:roll: I wasn't going to flat out say "You're retarded" until I saw the first line of this quote, but I'm pretty sure you're retarded.

Very good. Go and learn what that word means now.

[El Fangel]

1) you can swim in GTA4

2) Fallout 3 really is THAT good

3) did you even read any posts? Thats my whole point...the Halo games dont deviate from gameplay much, only storyline. The core mechanics remain the same. The same is said for Fallout/Oblivion, GTA/RDR, etc etc.

1) What I meant by that is Vice City is a step below because you can't swim and GTA4 is inferior imo, I just had more fun playing San Andreas then 4. Its a good game, just lacks something I can't put my finger on. Car acceleration, braking and cornering annoyed me, that I know.

2) Ill add it to my purchase list.

3) Yeah, I'm agreeing with you...so what's the problem?

As for the comparisons you mentioned, as you know are the same gametypes but have nothing else to do with each other, unlike Halo 3 and Halo: Reach (recommend the book btw)

[alvarado52]

Hoping multi-player might be good but I don't know anyone else who has got it yet.

other than 90% of the people who posted in this thread? :wtf:

[Requiem]

Comedy isn't one of your strong points, and apparently you fail at wordplay as well. Let's all discuss things ECG fails at.

I'll start.

Fun.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

other than 90% of the people who posted in this thread? :wtf:

I don't know these people. Plus you're all on X-Box.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Comedy isn't one of your strong points, and apparently you fail at wordplay as well. Let's all discuss things ECG fails at.

I'll start.

Fun.

What are you talking about? Tidy yourself up, clean the saliva off your face and fuck off.

[alvarado52]

lol

[Kalyx triaD]

Shocked to shit that BDC is making good points. Against ECG. Supported by Req. In a game related topic.

Fuckin twilight zone.

[alvarado52]

IKR!

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Shocked to shit that BDC is making good points. Against ECG. Supported by Req. In a game related topic.

Fuckin twilight zone.

Funny, I thought you'd understand where I'm coming from given the shit you got for happening to mention you didn't enjoy God of War.

[Requiem]

You're bagging on a game for having similarities to a game that came before it from the same developers. You cited Fallout 3 as a game you could 'get into' that had all these great things, when really it is exactly the same as Oblivion just in a different time period. I said this, and you ignored it because you know for a fact that I am right.

That makes you a hypocrite.

Now clean the semen off yours, and invest in one of these.

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/3/33/Suicide_for_Dummies.png

[El Capitano Gatisto]

You're bagging on a game for having similarities to a game that came before it from the same developers. You cited Fallout 3 as a game you could 'get into' that had all these great things, when really it is exactly the same as Oblivion just in a different time period. I said this, and you ignored it because you know for a fact that I am right.

That makes you a hypocrite.

Now clean the semen off yours, and invest in one of these.

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/3/33/Suicide_for_Dummies.png

No, you absolute fucking moron, I am bagging the game for being the same as a series of games I AM BORED OF. If I enjoyed the gameplay I WOULD NOT CARE. You are a simpleton. I have spelt this out in clear, coherent English a number of times yet you have failed to grasp it. Are you fucking brain damaged? Or do you just get so emotional about this that the tears in your gay eyes obscure your vision and you stop reading sentences halfway through?

In fact, if the change of scenery was overwhelming enough, I might even have ignored that it was GTA in a new suit. In fact, I actually could for a while, until I got bored again.

[Kalyx triaD]

Funny, I thought you'd understand where I'm coming from given the shit you got for happening to mention you didn't enjoy God of War.

Actually I totally understand, but there are key differences:

1) I argued for my displeasure of the God of War series. I didn't play 1 and 2 and shit on three for havng the same gameplay.

2) While I did get that sense of 'Wild West paint over GTA' while playing the game... I like GTA. I even hailed RDR's likeness to GTA as a strong suit. Hell I wouldn't have stopped playing GTA4 if the multiplayer wasn't batshit clunky (issues RDR solved).

I mean, surely you knew this game was mostly GTA in the Wild West, with improvements that would only be appreciated by people who are satisfied with the series. I will, however, agree that RDR isn't light years ahead of GTA4 in execution.

It would seem you're just into R*'s style of sandbox games. There's nothing wrong with that.

[Requiem]

TPWW needs an umbrella, to keep out all the WAAAHHHH raining down from ECG's keyboard.

[RoXer]

It's the same reason I'm avoiding Assassin's Creed 2 for a little while. I hated the first for the repetitive missions. GTA/RDR go so far to maybe change the dialogue or cutscene animation or maybe have an NPC tag along before the repetitive side mission/gathering mission starts.

Assassin's Creed didn't do any of that. It was literally copy/paste all the side missions. And you had to go back to same city twice too. Fucking dumb. The story was a little intriguing though. Corny at times but hey.

I don't blame ECG for finding the missions in RDR to be a chore because they are. He hates it just like I hate Assassin's Creed. Nothing wrong with it.

[Requiem]

Also, you're a fucking moron for getting so bent out of shape over something you should have expected to begin with. The game was never made out to be anything other than an open-world/sandbox Rockstar game.

I think you're more butthurt over the fact that you paid $60 for what you wanted it to be, instead of exactly what the game sounded like. And since you apparently don't know what you DO want in the game, it shouldn't be any surprise that you're not happy with it.

[Miotch]

Req, you're the only one in here who seems to be 'bent out of shape' over this topic, and I'm trying to figure out why. My best guess is that you don't like Cappy because he probably called you a bad name at some point.

I'm close, aren't I?

[G]

Happy Birthday Miotch

[Miotch]

Thanks G. That means a lot to me.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Actually I totally understand, but there are key differences:

1) I argued for my displeasure of the God of War series. I didn't play 1 and 2 and shit on three for havng the same gameplay.

2) While I did get that sense of 'Wild West paint over GTA' while playing the game... I like GTA. I even hailed RDR's likeness to GTA as a strong suit. Hell I wouldn't have stopped playing GTA4 if the multiplayer wasn't batshit clunky (issues RDR solved).

I mean, surely you knew this game was mostly GTA in the Wild West, with improvements that would only be appreciated by people who are satisfied with the series. I will, however, agree that RDR isn't light years ahead of GTA4 in execution.

It would seem you're just into R*'s style of sandbox games. There's nothing wrong with that.

Like I say, I loved the GTA games up until 4, thought they peaked at Vice City.

Of course, I expected it to mostly an overhaul of GTA, but the publicity surrounding it emphasised certain things that made it seem the game would not be so linear. Like the Fame and Honour system suggesting it would change the way you could play this game. In reality, they have very little actual effect, the missions you do and the people you interact with do not change whether you behave like an outlaw or a great guy.

Going back to the Fallout 3 comparison, there's the actual prospect that if you kill a certain person or behave a certain way, then parts of the story change and you associate with different factions. You know when you interact with a character that you may close off something but open something else. I thought RDR would have this element, but it is absolutely linear in its design. In fact, all being a cunt does is make the game more difficult, rather than merely be an alternative way of reaching the same goal.

And again, I hoped the Wild West setting would re-vitalise the formula for me but it appears that is not so.

[alvarado52]

im so fucking sick of trying to kill a cougar with a knife

[Miotch]

Wound it and then go in for the kill with the knife.

[Requiem]

What? Your post makes absolutely no sense Miotch. Plenty of people are arguing here, and plenty of people agreed with me.

[Miotch]

My post makes total sense. Sure, there are plenty of people 'arguing' (I'd use the word 'discussing' but that's not the point), but you're the only one that started throwing insults at Cappy because he personally has issue with the game.

It's like you're all bent out of shape because he decided he didn't like steak anymore after he ate it too much over the last 5 years.

[G]

So how close is Saints Row 2 to this and GTA? I think I'm going to play that next.

[Miotch]

Same general format, but more cartoon-y. I enjoyed it, but not as much as GTA or RDR.

[El Fangel]

Saints Row 2 I would liken a bit to San Amdreas. Its not a bad game just similar.

[El Fangel]

Also Cap, why do you consider VC the peak, its an amazing game, however I think SA had a slight edge.

[Miotch]

I agree with Cappy on that point. I thought SA just went a bit far off the rails. Yes, it was cool you could fly planes and helicopters, but a jetpack? Really? Plus there was a TON of dead space on that overly large map.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Funnily enough because I think Vice City had the best setting (the 80s) and also because it basically played out as a linear game. San Andreas brought in these shitty RPG elements that were a total chore. I still enjoyed San Andreas but the training/eating/girlfriend stuff did absolutely nothing for me. Having to earn different levels in guns and stuff too. It felt tacked on, like it was trying to be an RPG but GTA was fun, going back to the first game, for its total lack of morals and chaos. It still had the authentic feel and the humour (as RDR does, presentation is unquestionable, the soundtrack, voice acting, script etc. etc. is all perfect) but it was when they put things in that felt more like drudgery than playing a game.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I agree with Cappy on that point. I thought SA just went a bit far off the rails. Yes, it was cool you could fly planes and helicopters, but a jetpack? Really? Plus there was a TON of dead space on that overly large map.

Yeah the massive amount of countryside that was basically useless was not fun to traverse. Those fucking missions for the nerd guy were just an absolute pain too.

[Verbose Minch]

God, I love the fan boy rage at ECG for stating that he thinks doing the same thing over and over is dull....

He never said it should have been X, or he expected X, just stated a fact that he find the missions lacking. I dont think he was even really "bashing the game". I agree, the Rockstar MO gets old quick, but I still like the games.

I think you're reading too far into it. Nobody raged.

[Kane Knight]

Considering it's not an RPG, I don't know what you were expecting out of it. Adding certain FO3 features would change the game's genre and scope completely, and I don't think they were trying to go for that. Far too much of the game would need to be different.

The only time you should really be spending 'mindlessly running' is during a mission. The rest of the time, stagecoaches and quick travel from camp take a LOT of the downtime out of the game. Best, and probably most 'taken for granted' feature in the game is easily the quick travel/save from your camp.

I know I'm probably going to get another round of "you obviously suck at the game," but he raises a valid point. Especially when a lot of the missions end up being "travel halfway across map to kill X at point Y."

the fact that so many missions do require you to spend a lot of time "mindlessly running" means that the "only time" you do it being in missions doesn't really change much. It's still common and it's still bad. It also hurts the storytelling and the experience.

Seriously, this is still an awesome game. Its flaws don't kill it for me, but it does have flaws, and defending them serves little purpose.

[alvarado52]

yeah but its during those travels that you run into the random spots, side missions, hunting, etc. RDR, GTA, Oblivion, and FO3 all have heavy traveling, and its all mostly to show how 'alive' the world is.

[Kane Knight]

So how close is Saints Row 2 to this and GTA? I think I'm going to play that next.

Saints Row 2 is an awesome experience. Hit me up if you want todo the game in co op. :D

It's what sandbox games should be: Fun.

[Kane Knight]

yeah but its during those travels that you run into the random spots, side missions, hunting, etc. RDR, GTA, Oblivion, and FO3 all have heavy traveling, and its all mostly to show how 'alive' the world is.

You can do those during missions? Silly me, I thought they were only during the free roam, the part where long travel wasn't required.

[Kane Knight]

You're bagging on a game for having similarities to a game that came before it from the same developers. You cited Fallout 3 as a game you could 'get into' that had all these great things, when really it is exactly the same as Oblivion just in a different time period. I said this, and you ignored it because you know for a fact that I am right.

That makes you a hypocrite.

Now clean the semen off yours, and invest in one of these.

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/3/33/Suicide_for_Dummies.png

Is it possible for you to like a game without getting your ass in a sling at even the smallest of criticisms?

[El Fangel]

Funnily enough because I think Vice City had the best setting (the 80s) and also because it basically played out as a linear game. San Andreas brought in these shitty RPG elements that were a total chore. I still enjoyed San Andreas but the training/eating/girlfriend stuff did absolutely nothing for me. Having to earn different levels in guns and stuff too. It felt tacked on, like it was trying to be an RPG but GTA was fun, going back to the first game, for its total lack of morals and chaos. It still had the authentic feel and the humour (as RDR does, presentation is unquestionable, the soundtrack, voice acting, script etc. etc. is all perfect) but it was when they put things in that felt more like drudgery than playing a game.

Fair enough, I definitely loved Vice City, though like I said I did enjoy San Andreas a bit more.

What you said though, you didnt have to train, eat or have a girlfriend, you could have gone through the entire game without doing any of them, but it did reward you for doing them.

One thing that pissed me off is that driving school didnt affect your driving in any fucking way besides getting neat cars with custom plates.

The ability to swim was a big kicker for me and Choppers and Planes were another.

The desert and open spaces were a bit outlandish but it provided a nice feel and a nice area to mess around on offroad vehicles (not justifying, just saying what I did with it)

The 2nd Zero Mission and I think R.O.E (where you have to fly a plane low to the ground despite trees coming into view a second or two before you hit them :mad:)

Anyways, if you match the good and the bad of each, they come out about even in my opinion, for what each game has that the other doest, that game is missing something the other has.

Back to RDR, it is very similar to GTA, but it has a nice feel to it. I like it purely for the weapons and hunting.

[OWEN ULLRICH]

Man i swear i love this game but whats up with freezing so much.. if it wasnt 4 autosave idk what i would do.
Another thing... i just cant really make out the online play everytime i spawn in a game it spawn me 4 away from everyone else so right when i get near the person it just stops n goes to the menu. idk can some one help me understand is the connection bad?

[El Fangel]

Man i swear i love this game but whats up with freezing so much.. if it wasnt 4 autosave idk what i would do.
Another thing... i just cant really make out the online play everytime i spawn in a game it spawn me 4 away from everyone else so right when i get near the person it just stops n goes to the menu. idk can some one help me understand is the connection bad?

The connection issues with this game are well known and very hateful, try to be patient with it.

[RoXer]

95% of connection issues were fixed this weekend

[G]

He just needs something to bitch about.

[alvarado52]

dude, this game was patched like a few days ago, it was a silent patch, so you were never prompted to accept the patch. I havent had a d/c issue since like the 2nd day of release.

[G]

He just needs something to bitch about..

[El Fangel]

I havent played Multiplayer all week, so I didnt know.

[alvarado52]

im just gonna go out and say what Roxer, G, and everyone else wants to say: Fuck you Fallen Angel. Fuck you in your fucking ass with your half educated information.


:D

[El Fangel]

Oh go mow a lawn.

[alvarado52]

how about you mow my pubics with your mouth

[Kane Knight]

Man i swear i love this game but whats up with freezing so much.. if it wasnt 4 autosave idk what i would do.
Another thing... i just cant really make out the online play everytime i spawn in a game it spawn me 4 away from everyone else so right when i get near the person it just stops n goes to the menu. idk can some one help me understand is the connection bad?

Are you having freezing issues or are you being kicked from sessions and the like?

The connection issues with this game are well known and very hateful, try to be patient with it.

Coming from the guy who was screaming like a child a few days back.

[El Fangel]

how about you mow my pubics with your mouth

If they need to mowed, perhaps its time you shave them or at least trim.




Coming from the guy who was screaming like a child a few days back.

I had been awake for 30 some hours, so my anger level was multiplied by alot at that point.

[Kane Knight]

how about you mow my pubics with your mouth

Dude, just because Canucks have a lot of experience with beaver doesn't mean....

[alvarado52]

Dude, just because Canucks have a lot of experience with beaver doesn't mean....

thats EXACTLY what it means.

[El Fangel]

Its a hole not a pole buddy.

[Johnny McNasty]

I can't get over how much Requiem came across these last few pages, as some random nub on Xbox live throwing mindless insults at everyone hoping his friends laugh. Very unappealing.

I think what really keeps me from picking this game up again, and going through the story for the second time. Is knowing that I will eventually make it to Mexico, where the majority of missions are long and tedious. New Austin is fun mostly, as is Blackwater and beyond.

Online isn't that great either. FFA has some of the absolute atrocious spawns.(Yes I have played MW2) Plus once you play 4 or 5 matches you've pretty much experienced all 2 game modes on every map.

Fun game for sure, but nothing extraordinary after the shine wears off.

[alvarado52]

yeah the spawns are crazy ridiculous. Like, dudes literally spawn right behind you.

[El Fangel]

When they are a bunch of dicks in a posse, it is very hateful.

[Kane Knight]

thats EXACTLY what it means.

No, trust me. Sascha gives lousy head.

I can only assume that Fangel is worse.

I can't get over how much Requiem came across these last few pages, as some random nub on Xbox live throwing mindless insults at everyone hoping his friends laugh.

We're an idiosyncratic lot here.

[Kane Knight]

When they are a bunch of dicks in a posse, it is very hateful.

Almost as bad as when they're a bunch of dicks in your posse.

But you more or less have to accept that any game with online multiplayer will be riddled with dicks and sociopaths.

[El Fangel]

Almost as bad as when they're a bunch of dicks in your posse.

But you more or less have to accept that any game with online multiplayer will be riddled with dicks and sociopaths.

You wait, without striking back for the right moment, such as when they are finishing a challenge or holding of the law for 10 mins and are nearing completion then...

double barrel shotgun to the back.

That is all.

[Drakul]

How to unlock Avatar Awards:
There are three Avatar items you can unlock automatically while playing Red Dead:
• Male and Female Sombrero – Obtained by shooting off someone’s hat without killing them (in single player).
• Male And Female Red Dead Redemption Logo T-Shirt – Obtained when found in a hidden chest at Riley’s Charge.
• Male and Female Rockstar Logo T-Shirt – Obtained when found in a hidden chest at Beecher's Hope (make sure to unlock the Beecher’s Hope homestead first).

There will be two more avatar items unlocked via future Rockstar Community Challenges to be announced next month – stay tuned for details.

[El Fangel]

I think I unlocked one of those already, tell me if I am right in my assumption

Shooting someones hat off or a headshot, I am not sure which of those but I remember it saying Avatar Item Unlocked or something the first time I did that I think

[Drakul]

Yeah, you should have the sombrero in your Avatar Awards section in the Avatar customisation thing.

[El Fangel]

Yep, that I do. Sweetass.

[Fignuts]

God forbid someone doesn't enjoy Red Dead Redemption like we do. Jesus.

[Blitz]

Yeah Req, simmer down chief.

I understand the complaint about formulaic, repetitive, boring missions (Just played We Shall Be Together In Paradise today, Jesus Christ was I ever ready for that thing to be over 2 minutes in), but I think the combination of the story, the sheer beauty of the world, and the variety of fun little distractions overrides that. I can see someone getting bored with it though.

[Fignuts]

He got just as mad at people liking Fallout 3.

[Kane Knight]

I got it in Multiplayer, BTW. Hat shot, then sombrero unlocked.

[Kane Knight]

He got just as mad at people liking Fallout 3.
And God forbid you criticise Mass Effect 2.

[BigDaddyCool]

Lol, fanboy rage.

[Johnny McNasty]

Oh I did get to ride the bull the other night. Was messing about with a friend in Free Roam when we came upon this guy racing along on a bull. Dude was very nice and polite, even let us take turns riding his bull.

[Kane Knight]

Lol, fanboy rage.
Shiny Mirror, Becker.

[BigDaddyCool]

I only have fanboy rage with transformers.

[Kane Knight]

On the flip side, you have fanboy rage, fanboy.

[BigDaddyCool]

I'LL KILL YOU FOR BRING UP MY OBVIOUS FLAWS THAT I REFUSE TO WORK ON!!!! :mad:

[Kane Knight]

Settle down, Requiem.

[Requiem]

Yeah, I got carried away and went overboard, but come on. I agreed with a post that said he was retarded for a very specific thing, and called him a hypocrite later. He then goaded me on.. my next comment was a joke (I said he failed at fun.. come on, you people call that slinging insults?), and he responded with "clean the saliva off your face and fuck off". (as if that's not going to incite something?)

Yeah, the 'suicide for dummies' pic was a step too far, but nothing else in that same post was anywhere near 'rage'. He then responded with a STRING of insults, and none of my replies following that were anywhere near the rage that he'd elevated to at that point.

So whatever. He took the confrontation just as far as I did, so stop acting like I'm the only one being a douche. And yeah, I was kind of a douche at times, but he's not a fucking saint in this either. :roll:

[alvarado52]

Oh I did get to ride the bull the other night. Was messing about with a friend in Free Roam when we came upon this guy racing along on a bull. Dude was very nice and polite, even let us take turns riding his bull.
lmao. Why do i find this post hilarious?

[Fignuts]

Johnny McNasty, ridin' that bull.


That's why.

[alvarado52]

hey, when are we all gonna posse up again? Anyone down for tonight?

[Kalyx triaD]

Maybe.

...Maybe not...

[alvarado52]

stfu Kalyx, youre black.

[Kalyx triaD]

:(

[BigDaddyCool]

Hahahaha, lets all make fun of the darkie.

[Kalyx triaD]

?!?!!1!!

[D Mac]

stfu Kalyx, youre black.


:(

:lol:

[BigDaddyCool]

Kalyx, I'm racist, I'm suppose to be mean to you about being a darky. Hey, I have an idea, lets get a posse and lynch Kalyx for an authintic western feel.

[alvarado52]

im TOO down.

[D Mac]

Too bad you can't get a KKK outfit in this game.

[BigDaddyCool]

I was kidding you pack of racists. We aren't going to lynch him because he is black. We are going to lynch him because he is autstic.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'll shoot Alva and take his land for an authentic western feel.

[D Mac]

I'll shoot Alva and take his land for an authentic western feel.

Is he an Indian?

[alvarado52]

Kalyx that doesnt make any sense, im mexican. And black people couldnt buy land back then

[Kalyx triaD]

America took Mexican land. We'll do it again for Michelle Rodriguez.

[alvarado52]

they strong armed it, and we eventually sold it. But, as previously stated, youre black.

[Kalyx triaD]

asiohdwcyukuhcw

[Fignuts]

We don't understand your african click-click speak.

[D Mac]

haha

[Kane Knight]

Kalyx, I'm racist, I'm suppose to be mean to you about being a darky. Hey, I have an idea, lets get a posse and lynch Kalyx for an authintic western feel.

No rope in multiplayer.

And too much effort to lynch him in real life.

Too bad you can't get a KKK outfit in this game.

Third "Legendary" status.

Is he an Indian?

There are no injuns here. :shifty:

[El Fangel]

In fucking stitches at work and I have a coworker asking why.

[BigDaddyCool]

No rope in multiplayer.

And too much effort to lynch him in real life.

Damnit.

[Disturbed316]

This game is having a terrible effect on my real life. Pretty much every time I see some sort of plant or wild rabbit or horses I wonder if its wise to shoot/steal/pick them. Had the same issue with Crackdown, was always looking at ways of climbing buildings after playing that.

Currently doing missions in Mexico, not finding it as enjoyable down there as the US, but I guess thats like real life.

[Kane Knight]

You wait, without striking back for the right moment, such as when they are finishing a challenge or holding of the law for 10 mins and are nearing completion then...

double barrel shotgun to the back.

That is all.

Nah. I just don't play with them. "Revenge" seems pretty hollow in a video game. Especially when you went in for a team experience.

This is, apparently, "fun."

[Kane Knight]

This game is having a terrible effect on my real life. Pretty much every time I see some sort of plant or wild rabbit or horses I wonder if its wise to shoot/steal/pick them. Had the same issue with Crackdown, was always looking at ways of climbing buildings after playing that.

Currently doing missions in Mexico, not finding it as enjoyable down there as the US, but I guess thats like real life.

It's nothing like real life. No whoring, no cheap pharmaceuticals and narcotics, no cheap labour to smuggle over the border and exploit....

I'm told once you clear Mexico it's fun again. I'm not a fan of the long travel missions that are forced exposition in what is effectively an unskippable cutscene. That seems to be all but, say...Three of Mexico's missions. It really makes the game feel bleak and empty, but thankfully that's only the missions.

Though the much more sparse population of Free Roam doesn't help much, either. Remember when they advertised that it would be as robust as single player? Right in the trailers? Remember when the devs said you could do almost anything except missions in free roam?

[Drakul]

RDR merchandise (http://rockstarwarehouse.stores.yahoo.net/rdrliedfrco.html). They have t-shirts, cards, dice, candles and soap. Yeah, soap. Fable brand condoms don't seem so unlikely, now.

I actually kind of want to try the soap.
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/rockstarwarehouse_2108_17740234

[Kane Knight]

I want RDR branded Liar's Dice.

Though I could get a set of Liar's Dice for like ten on Amazon.

[G]

Would anyone care to go from hideout to hideout with me later, hopefully gaining a few levels?

[Kalyx triaD]

lol No. Go cut yourself, lonely boy.

[G]

:wtf:?

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah go back to your faggot-ass firehouse. Loser.

[G]

that's not very nice, young man

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm sorry.

[G]

when i look into your eyes, there's nothing there to see
nothing but my own mistakes, staring back at me
asking whhhhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Kalyx triaD]

That's what you get when you let your heart win
WAAAOOOOOOOWAOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo

[G]

I'm gonna swallow my pride, say I'm sorry
Stop pointing fingers the blame is on me
I want a new life, and I want it with you
If you feel the same, don't ever let it go
You gotta believe in the spirit of love
It can heal all things, we won't hurt anymore
No, I don't believe our love's terminal
I'm down on my knees begging you please

[Kalyx triaD]

That's not cowboy shit.

[Triple Naitch]

I can't find any fucking beavers. Where are they?

[El Fangel]

Between the left and the right thigh.

[alvarado52]

I can't find any fucking beavers. Where are they?

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx176/StrengthGamer/animalmapcopy2.jpg

[DAMN iNATOR]

I feel like this game is fighting me for my soul, and I'm on the end of a losing battle. Not that I mind, of course...

[ClockShot]

Joined the Social Club this morning. Somebody give me rundown of the perks besides getting the Gentlemen's Suit.

[Triple Naitch]

What's with the bonus animals with the star?

[Kane Knight]

Would anyone care to go from hideout to hideout with me later, hopefully gaining a few levels?

Still looking?

[ClockShot]

What's with the bonus animals with the star?

Legendary Animals you gotta hunt later on in the hunting sidequests.

[Fignuts]

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx176/StrengthGamer/animalmapcopy2.jpg

This map is all wrong. First off, Khan and Lobo are switched. And there is no bear on top of the mountain. Gordo is a boar down near the river that seperates mexico and austin.

[Verbose Minch]

Actually, all of those are the correct locations.

Brumas is on top of the mountain. The only mistake is Gordo the ''bear'', but that could easily be a typo.

[G]

That map is correct for the single player locations. Multiplayer Legendary animals are in different spots.

[Kane Knight]

Spent an hour this morning trying to get Cougar'd for the rank 5 SP challenge where you have to kill them with a knife and skin them. The bitch is, I had 5 skins already, so obviously I had no trouble finding them until that point...

[Fignuts]

Ah, okay, didn't know legendary animals were in sp.

[Verbose Minch]

Spent an hour this morning trying to get Cougar'd for the rank 5 SP challenge where you have to kill them with a knife and skin them. The bitch is, I had 5 skins already, so obviously I had no trouble finding them until that point...

I just used Hennigan's stead with bait. A lot of cougars appear there, idk why.

[Requiem]

Have been tearing MP up. Just had a gang shootout match where I went 20 and 1. 17 kill streak was my highest. :cool:

Went 14 and 1, and 14 and 3 the games before that. Am getting the hang of it and how to be deadly using normal targetting.

[El Fangel]

I just used Hennigan's stead with bait. A lot of cougars appear there, idk why.

How far do you have to go and how long do you have to wait for things to show up?

[Kane Knight]

I just used Hennigan's stead with bait. A lot of cougars appear there, idk why.
Tried bait. Got a metric fuckton of other animals. No cougars.

Had the same problem with the bears. Then three showed up all at once. I would have been fuuuuuuuucked if not for Dead Eye.

[Verbose Minch]

How far do you have to go and how long do you have to wait for things to show up?

I stood a little ways out from where you walk to activate Pike's basin.

It only takes about 4 or 5 seconds for the animal to appear. When animals do appear, kill them and skin them. It tends to attract bigger animals that way.

[BigDaddyCool]

Has anyone killed them little blue birds?

[Ermaximus]

Has anyone killed them little blue birds?

Yea, I killed 1 last night. I had to start my game over because I didn't realize wearing a bandana didn't give you fame/honor. Sooooo, my stats were fucked.

[Kane Knight]

Has anyone killed them little blue birds?
Songbirds?

[Ermaximus]

Songbirds?

Pretty sure that's what he meant as I haven't seen any others.

I think my game glitched out as I killed a boar last night, but the boar spawned INSIDE Armadillo. I was puzzled as fuck.

[El Fangel]

Yea, I killed 1 last night. I had to start my game over because I didn't realize wearing a bandana didn't give you fame/honor. Sooooo, my stats were fucked.

Motherfucker.

I was wondering why I didnt gain fame or honor from some things and was about to ask this.

[Kane Knight]

I have max fame and (I think) Honour. I can just put the bandana on permantently.

[BigDaddyCool]

Songbirds?

I guess, i have seen them out of the corner of my eye twice now, and they were blue. I want to shoot them.

[El Fangel]

I guess, i have seen them out of the corner of my eye twice now, and they were blue. I want to shoot them.

I got one I think my first time playing and none since.

[Ermaximus]

Motherfucker.

I was wondering why I didnt gain fame or honor from some things and was about to ask this.

Yeah, I was pretty pissed when I found out, but luckily for me, it didn't take long to get caught back up.

[BigDaddyCool]

I pretty much just want to shot everything.

[El Fangel]

Gotta say, cheating at poker is win win.

[Verbose Minch]

If you're looking for songbirds, ride along the mexican side of the river, and shoot into the bushes. They usually come out of there.

[ClockShot]

Got my Legend of the West outfit and It's lovely looking.

Figured the boys at the high stakes poker game would be dressed up in nice designer suits like myself. Instead, it's people I played against across the map. Lame.

[El Fangel]

That map is correct for the single player locations. Multiplayer Legendary animals are in different spots.


I spent an hour in the bighorn sheep location and didnt see a single one, got swarmed by wolves though.

CHA-CHING!

[G]

I spent an hour in the bighorn sheep location and didnt see a single one, got swarmed by wolves though.

CHA-CHING!

Slow down, take your time and read it again. I was talking about the Legendary spots.

CHA-CHING!

[G]

Besides, ask any racer, any real racer. Just because they (normal animals) are listed at certain spots on the map, doesn't mean they are gonna be there every time you go looking for them. 99% sure that R* did it to fuck with us.

[Verbose Minch]

G is right, they only appear at certain times of the day.

[G]

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[Kane Knight]

Yeah, I was pretty pissed when I found out, but luckily for me, it didn't take long to get caught back up.

Reading what things do can be really awesome.

[Xero]

lol at Punch a Bear.

[BigDaddyCool]

lol at Punch a Bear.

I punched a bear once.

[The Jayman]

was it the one I sent you?

[Ermaximus]

Reading what things do can be really awesome.

Yeah, tbh, I didn't even notice that when looking at an item you can press Y and learn what it does. FML. :(

[Kane Knight]

I punched a bear once.

Doctor Bearsano was never the same. :(

[Ermaximus]

Doctor Bearsano was never the same. :(

Wtf is Cougar Man? Have you seen this shit KK?

[BigDaddyCool]

was it the one I sent you?

Yes

[The Jayman]

awesome

[Kane Knight]

Wtf is Cougar Man? Have you seen this shit KK?

I saw video of Cougar Man and the Donkey Lady on a list of funniest glitches.

[Fignuts]

Donkey Lady is fucking amazing.

[G]

Red Dead Redemption 'Outlaws to the End' DLC due on June 22 (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/03/red-dead-redemption-outlaws-to-the-end-dlc-due-on-june-22/)

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If you think Red Dead Redemption (http://www.joystiq.com/tag/red-dead-redemption)'s desolate landscape is best explored and conquered with a band of gun-toting ne'er-do-wells at your side, you'll be pleased to note that the free Outlaws to the End (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/05/red-dead-redemption-getting-free-co-op-dlc-this-june/) DLC pack has roped in an official release date: June 22 (http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/6041/red_dead_redemption_dlc_outlaws_to_the_end_co-op_mission_pack_coming_for_free_on_june_22nd_-_check_out_new_screens.article). It'll toss six online co-op missions (for two to four players) into the sandbox and take your posse uphill, downstream and in-between several shootouts.

You'll need a PSN account or an Xbox Live Gold Membership to partake, of course, but we're assuming most of you have access to such wonderful luxuries. Spare a thought for life in the olden West, where folks had to get by with just 28.8k modems and AOL keywords.