Red Dead Redemption

[Kane Knight]

Donkey Lady is fucking amazing.

Reminds me of the gas mask kid from Doctor Who.

[alvarado52]

finally beat the game today

:( ending

[DAMN iNATOR]

I'm getting close to the ending myself. But no matter the ending, I'm looking forward to being free to do all kinds of odd side-quests and whatever else LONG after I've finished the story.

[Kane Knight]

Anyone have trouble getting Five Finger Fillet to count as a win? I've beat it so many times, but I didn't get the scrap for winning in Torquemada and my 100 completion checklist still says I haven't beat it.

Ending spoilers ahead:

I almost felt bad for Dutch before he offed himself. Almost. It's one of those things where it's hard to actually feel sympathy for someone who's that much of a bastard, but the whole "That's a Paradox" speech came close to making him sympathetic.

I fucking hate the fact that we get done with Dutch, and then we go through a bunch of those lame intro missions again. "Ride wagon." "lasso horse." "Ride halfway across the map." I also think the stuff with John and his family is kind of too little, too late. It just doesn't really do much for me.

Right up to the end of John's story, and I loved it. I know it sucks that John Marston dies, but that last mission was a cool way for him to go out. It's so fucking...Western, really.

I know people hate Jack, but so far my only real complaint is John's not Jack. You spend hours, possibly dozens of hours, with John Marston. his voice, his mannerisms, his character in general. And then they drop Jack in at the end, so once you've gotten to that point, you're randomly stuck with someone else. So I get it. I haven't done the remaining missions yet, and probably won't today. I burned through John's last missions because with each of them, I was sure it was wrapping up and I wanted to see the "ending."

one of my favorite things about John was that he usually sounded somewhat bemused when dealing with people.

[Ermaximus]

Kinda pissed off right now. Was in Mexico looking for the treasure burried on top of the rocks that are called something toes, jumped on a rock and glitched through said rock and now I can't load anything. Basically, I have to start over. AGAIN!!!! :foc: Might wait for the patch first.

[Verbose Minch]

Kane, I think you have to beat 2 different guys. Like, you know how once you beat the first guy twice, another guy sits down? I think that's what you have to do.

[Kane Knight]

Kinda pissed off right now. Was in Mexico looking for the treasure burried on top of the rocks that are called something toes, jumped on a rock and glitched through said rock and now I can't load anything. Basically, I have to start over. AGAIN!!!! :foc: Might wait for the patch first.

Wow, that's seriously fucked.

Kane, I think you have to beat 2 different guys. Like, you know how once you beat the first guy twice, another guy sits down? I think that's what you have to do.

I was told it was 3 for the scrap at Torquemada, so I've done more than two in a row. I've gone as high as 4 before striking out. or sticking out, as the case may be. I don't have the most expensive bets memorised yet.

[G]

Yeah, to "win" you need to beat everyone around you until you are the only one left, as they leave when they lose. I think the 4th guy is the "boss".

[G]

Although, I've only played it in Armadillo, so it could be different elsewhere. :-\

[Verbose Minch]

When I did Torquemada, I only had to face 2 guys. I dunno, maybe I just got lucky?

[El Fangel]

FUCK
COUGARS
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Kane Knight]

When I did Torquemada, I only had to face 2 guys. I dunno, maybe I just got lucky?

It's also possible it's glitched, like about 500 other things in this game.

FUCK
COUGARS
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Bears are my problem. I've only been fatally attacked by a cougar once in SP and twice in MP. Bears will still sneak attack you, but are also frequently surrounded by other bears and boards.

I just wanted to say I don't like any of the aiming options in this game. Expert's too anal (Which might not be as bad if the controls weren't unresponsive even with the sensitivity cranked), and the aim assist on both casual and normal goes from anal to "paint chip eating." Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the game. I just think I'd enjoy it a lot more with better shooting mechanics. They can range from a minor annoyance to a serious fucking chore.

[El Fangel]

Reticle > Dot

Also, goddamn cougar killed 2 of my horses and I STILL didnt kill the bastard.

[ClockShot]

Finished the game this morning.

It's either a like it or hate it. I liked it because you continue your adventures as the son. But I wished Rockstar would have had a bit more dialogue at the barn, AND let me shoot the G-Men. I targeted most of them, and during the sequence, I see body wounds and blood splatter just sitting in mid-air. And Ross and his crew and sitting there like nothing happened.

[Crimson]

I'm not that far into it but I love the game. I'll probably take my time since I barely have it to begin with and end up finishing it untill September or October .

Oh yea I pre orderd the game and put in the code for the deadly assassin outfit. It says the code is activated but when im in the game the outift isn't active. Any ideas what I need to do?

[Kane Knight]

I'm not that far into it but I love the game. I'll probably take my time since I barely have it to begin with and end up finishing it untill September or October .

Oh yea I pre orderd the game and put in the code for the deadly assassin outfit. It says the code is activated but when im in the game the outift isn't active. Any ideas what I need to do?

A lot of people don't have it despite entering the code. Try re entering the code, and if that fails, try clearing the cache. While neither are a guaranteed fix, they work for some people.

[Kane Knight]

Finished the game this morning.

It's either a like it or hate it. I liked it because you continue your adventures as the son. But I wished Rockstar would have had a bit more dialogue at the barn, AND let me shoot the G-Men. I targeted most of them, and during the sequence, I see body wounds and blood splatter just sitting in mid-air. And Ross and his crew and sitting there like nothing happened.

The second I marked my first target, I got bloodbathed. it was annoying.

I'd like continuing with the son more if we had a reason to give a shit about him. However, the ending is fucking epic. And so was revenge on the Fed stooge.

[alvarado52]

The second I marked my first target, I got bloodbathed. it was annoying.

I'd like continuing with the son more if we had a reason to give a shit about him. However, the ending is fucking epic. And so was revenge on the Fed stooge.

this is the first game in a long time where i actually disliked the bad guy. This game realllllllyy made you not like the dude, and at the end i wanted to just kill him more.

[Disturbed316]

The RDR animated short is on Five USA tonight at 11:25pm for all the UK people, might be worth a watch.

Got completely raped by a trio of bears the other night, came out of no where and just took me down. How/when can you get hold of the buffalo gun?

[G]

I watched it when it was on last week I think. It's nothing special, just most of the cutscenes up to Mexico stringed together.

[Kane Knight]

I watched it when it was on last week I think. It's nothing special, just most of the cutscenes up to Mexico stringed together.

Poorly done, too.

[Kane Knight]

The RDR animated short is on Five USA tonight at 11:25pm for all the UK people, might be worth a watch.

Got completely raped by a trio of bears the other night, came out of no where and just took me down. How/when can you get hold of the buffalo gun?
Single Player, it's a reward for one of the challenges. Master Hunter Rank 5, I think?

You then need to buy it.

most of the challenges aren't hard. Tedious, maybe.

[El Fangel]

^ Next order of business.

Where the hell are Bears at and how does one, actually one shot the bastards...

[G]

up north around tall trees. head shot?

[El Fangel]

Yeah thats what I was thinking. Springfield Rifle is the most powerful that I have, so should use that.

[BigDaddyCool]

Puma keep killing me. Jerk ass pumas.

[El Fangel]

What the fuck is a puma?

[Requiem]

Chupa-thingy

[Kane Knight]

^ Next order of business.

Where the hell are Bears at and how does one, actually one shot the bastards...

Deadeye to the head. I got all three at once. Well, in one deadeye.

What the fuck is a puma?

The Principal of the mountains.

[Kane Knight]

Only SP challenge I still need is MH 10. Didn't want to keep playing. After grinding for bighorn, elk, skunks, and coons....Then ganking KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!...Enough was enough.

[Juan]

wtf I just spent over an hour looking for beavers near the river up north, using that map someone posted, and I couldn't find a single one.

I've been putting this stranger's mission off forever because I can never find the beavers.

[RoXer]

They're by Tanners ranch, in grass areas (not snow) along the river. During morning/afternoon.

[Juan]

Thanks. I'll give it a try

[Kane Knight]

wtf I just spent over an hour looking for beavers near the river up north, using that map someone posted, and I couldn't find a single one.

I've been putting this stranger's mission off forever because I can never find the beavers.

Anywhere on the Great Plains by water will have them. Also, there's a rock up by the cabin at Aurora Basin where they seem to just respawn. I got five in less than five minutes up there.

[El Fangel]

Found two cougars, killed one by accident with my gun and the other along with a pack of wolves fucked me right up.

[ClockShot]

Pfft. I didn't know I had to collect all 20 bounties to get 100%. Figured I'd be finished after doing the 5 hideouts in under 24 game time hours and getting my U.S. Marshall Outfit.

What a bummer.

[BigDaddyCool]

What the fuck is a puma?

The cougar (Puma concolor), also known as puma, mountain lion, mountain cat, catamount or panther, depending on the region, is a mammal of the family Felidae, native to the Americas. This large, solitary cat has the greatest range of any large wild terrestrial mammal in the Western Hemisphere,[3] extending from Yukon in Canada to the southern Andes of South America. An adaptable, generalist species, the cougar is found in every major American habitat type. It is the second heaviest cat in the American continents after the jaguar. Although large, the cougar is most closely related to smaller felines.

A capable stalk-and-ambush predator, the cougar pursues a wide variety of prey. Primary food sources include ungulates such as deer, elk, moose, and bighorn sheep, as well as domestic cattle, horses and sheep, particularly in the northern part of its range. It will also hunt species as small as insects and rodents. This cat prefers habitats with dense underbrush and rocky areas for stalking, but it can also live in open areas. The cougar is territorial and persists at low population densities. Individual territory sizes depend on terrain, vegetation, and abundance of prey. While it is a large predator, it is not always the dominant species in its range, as when it competes for prey with other predators such as the jaguar, grey wolf, American Black Bear, and the grizzly bear. It is a reclusive cat and usually avoids people. Attacks on humans remain rare, despite a recent increase in frequency.[4]

Due to excessive hunting following the European colonization of the Americas and the continuing human development of cougar habitat, populations have dropped in most parts of its historical range. In particular, the cougar was extirpated in eastern North America, except for an isolated sub-population in Florida; there are many sightings that claim the animal is recolonizing parts of its former eastern territory, such as Maine and northern Michigan [5][6] where there have been recent sightings. In North America, the cougar is native to Western Canada (primarily British Columbia and Yukon), Washington, Oregon and Northern California. Oregon alone is home to more than 5,000 cougars, with the highest densities in the Blue Mountains in the northeastern part of the state and in the southwestern Cascade Mountains. Their primary food source here is deer, but they will also consume elk, raccoons, bighorn sheep, and other mammals and birds.

Cougars are territorial animals and maintain home ranges of up to 100 miles. Most active at dawn and dusk, they are lone hunters. They are generally solitary animals, except for mothers who remain with kittens for about two years. While actual cougar sightings have increased, coyotes, bobcats, and dogs are often mistaken for cougars. A cougar can be identified by its large size, cat-like appearance, consistent tan or tawny body color, and long tail. An adult cougar's tail is nearly three feet long and can be a third to a half of its total length. Cougar tracks can be differentiated from dog tracks by paying attention to detail. The cougar has recently made a comeback in the state of Wyoming, where it presently has the largest population in North America[citation needed].


I live in Puma country and will countiue to call them pumas, not cougars.

[Requiem]

Gonna start calling them catamounts.

[El Fangel]

Never heard it call a Puma before.

So, BDC is there any Puma bars in your area :naughty:

[Juan]

Ok, so I finally collected the 10 red sage flowers, the 5 beaver furs and the 20 feathers, but when I walk up to the stranger, it says to come back when I have all the materials. What do i do?

[DAMN iNATOR]

Ok, so I finally collected the 10 red sage flowers, the 5 beaver furs and the 20 feathers, but when I walk up to the stranger, it says to come back when I have all the materials. What do i do?

I know it sounds like I'm calling you on a common sense thing here, but have you looked at your inventory to be absolutely sure you have all the red sage flowers, beaver furs and feathers required?

Just trying to help. A simple "yes" or "no" will suffice.

[El Fangel]

Ok, so I finally collected the 10 red sage flowers, the 5 beaver furs and the 20 feathers, but when I walk up to the stranger, it says to come back when I have all the materials. What do i do?

Did you have any in your possession before you started the mission? That might be the problem that it isnt counting them because you didnt pick/skin them after the mission/whatever started.

[Verbose Minch]

I know it sounds like I'm calling you on a common sense thing here, but have you looked at your inventory to be absolutely sure you have all the red sage flowers, beaver furs and feathers required?

Just trying to help. A simple "yes" or "no" will suffice.

Just go camp out a little ways from him, and save till a couple days have passed. I did the same thing as you, it just won't register if you have the stuff right after he tells you to go get it.

[G]

Let us all celebrate my 1000/1000 of this game.

[G]

OHHH GOOOOOD FOR YOUUUUUUUUU

[El Fangel]

Let me tell you, you need a new hobby.

Well mostly because you finished this one.

[G]

Alpha Protocol is in the mail, so we'll see what happens with that. If it's just like they say, I'll be needing another new hobby to go along with it. :-\

[Kane Knight]

Pfft. I didn't know I had to collect all 20 bounties to get 100%. Figured I'd be finished after doing the 5 hideouts in under 24 game time hours and getting my U.S. Marshall Outfit.

What a bummer.

Yeah, I need to go find me a few of them still.

Gonna start calling them catamounts.

I live in Catamount country.

However, not being a giant douche like BDC, I don't call them Catamounts.

Ok, so I finally collected the 10 red sage flowers, the 5 beaver furs and the 20 feathers, but when I walk up to the stranger, it says to come back when I have all the materials. What do i do?

Did you collect them after? I've been told this is one that you need to do the collection after the fact.

[G]

When you go for the bounties, you need 8 in Mexico, 8 in New Austin and 4 in Blackwater. And they spawn between 7-7:30 am.

[El Fangel]

Tip for finding cougars, look for a place called repentance rock. North side of it has a spawn location. Bring a horse you don't want to lose. Shoot them in the ass jump off and stab in face.

[Kane Knight]

When you go for the bounties, you need 8 in Mexico, 8 in New Austin and 4 in Blackwater.

Yup. I've got a couple left. I'm 98.something % done, just got the Legend of the West and Marshal outfits, and so I'm running out of stuff I know I need.

I still need the FFF win as well, but I haven't attempted that since. I think I need four bounties according to the online completion guide R* has. Sadly, several parts of their completion guide are still glitched, so....

[Kane Knight]

Tip for finding cougars, look for a place on the map. Odds are, you'll get cougar'd.

But seriously, West Elizabeth is full of spots where you can get cougar after cougar. Fort Mercer/Rio Bravo is another locale, and pretty much any time you're not expecting it, there's one.

[DAMN iNATOR]

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:lol:

[Ermaximus]

Ok, so I finally collected the 10 red sage flowers, the 5 beaver furs and the 20 feathers, but when I walk up to the stranger, it says to come back when I have all the materials. What do i do?

I'm having the same problem now. I say just punch the fucker and steal his plane. His quest is by far the most annoying yet IMO.

[Juan]

Did you collect them after? I've been told this is one that you need to do the collection after the fact.

Yeah I think that's what the problem was. I went out and shot a few more birds and picked a few more flowers and it finally worked.

[Juan]

Now I'm having trouble with the US Military outfit. I collected all the scraps but when I go to the tailor's, it says the Military scrap is unavailable.

[Triple Naitch]

Probably have to finish the game. Happened for me when I tried to purchase the Reyes outfit before I was done in Mexico.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I was pretty pissed about the ending to the story until I finished off the Remember My Family side-quest. Kinda made me feel as though I had the last laugh after all. (Those of you who've completed the story and this side-quest know what I mean. ;)

[Juan]

I've done some missions in Blackwater, but stopped to try to get all the outfit scraps. I have a feeling I'm nearing the end, so I've been putting off finishing the story.

[Ermaximus]

Now I'm having trouble with the US Military outfit. I collected all the scraps but when I go to the tailor's, it says the Military scrap is unavailable.

I'm having the same issue, as well as the fact the game won't give me my damn US Marshal outfit for beating all 5 US hideouts within 24 "in game" hours. G, could you shed some light on this for us since you have 100% on this?

Also, I've found 1 beaver and can't find any more. Fucking A!!!!

[ClockShot]

Can't get the Army scrap or Marshall outfits until you start the game with Jack Marston.

As far as beaver hunting goes, check up in tall trees or north of Blackwater along the river bank.

[Disturbed316]

Only managed to find two beavers so far, but a shite load of cougars.

[BigDaddyCool]

Never heard it call a Puma before.

So, BDC is there any Puma bars in your area :naughty:

Puma—a woman in her late twenties and thirties who dates a younger man (i.e., 20-somethings), often considered a "cougar in training". It also means a cougar whose age disparity is less than eight years.

Isn't every bar by that defination a slut...I mean puma bar?

[Kane Knight]

Now I'm having trouble with the US Military outfit. I collected all the scraps but when I go to the tailor's, it says the Military scrap is unavailable.

You need to be at the end or almost at the end. Most of the scraps you purchase, maybe all, need to be past certain points in the story. I'm not a fan of several of the outfits being available only past a certain point, all things considered. Especially the Bereua one, since you've pretty much literally done it all by the time you get that one.

[Kane Knight]

Isn't every bar by that defination a slut...I mean puma bar?

Man, thos rules are dumb.

[BigDaddyCool]

Do the outfits do anything?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yeah, most of them have a skill or bonus on them.

[BigDaddyCool]

Yeah, I just looked it up. Sometimes I forget the internet gives you that ability.

[Ermaximus]

Ok, so basically I should do everything I can as John, IE, all 4 10 level challenges, all the stranger missions, kill all the buffalo, kill 18 bears, buy all the houses and do all the scrap challenges?

[Disturbed316]

Just got to the ending
Holy shit, was totally not expecting that, or thought he would somehow survive :'(

Just did the stranger mission and now on the credits, the music playing is so fitting to mood I'm feeling right now.

[ClockShot]

Ok, so basically I should do everything I can as John, IE, all 4 10 level challenges, all the stranger missions, kill all the buffalo, kill 18 bears, buy all the houses and do all the scrap challenges?

Not really. You can do all that after the game. But it helps to have it all done on the first shot so you can move to multiplayer.

[Ermaximus]

Not really. You can do all that after the game. But it helps to have it all done on the first shot so you can move to multiplayer.

Ok. I can honestly say, the picking flowers 10 level challenge, is the gayest fucking thing ever. What hard-ass legit cowboy ever spent hours picking fucking flowers?

[BigDaddyCool]

Ok. I can honestly say, the picking flowers 10 level challenge, is the gayest fucking thing ever. What hard-ass legit cowboy ever spent hours picking fucking flowers?

me...:-\

[Ermaximus]

me...:-\

You're just misunderstood though you big softy.

[BigDaddyCool]

I use them to make poison

[G]

I'm having the same issue, as well as the fact the game won't give me my damn US Marshal outfit for beating all 5 US hideouts within 24 "in game" hours. G, could you shed some light on this for us since you have 100% on this?

Also, I've found 1 beaver and can't find any more. Fucking A!!!!

dunno dude. it only takes like 25 real minutes, so i guess do it until it unlocks or something.

[Ermaximus]

dunno dude. it only takes like 25 real minutes, so i guess do it until it unlocks or something.

Someone posted you can't get it until you play as Jack Marston so I should have it by the end of the night. After I pick those damned flowers. :roll:

[G]

I'm wondering if the mentioning of playing as Jack should be in spoilers.

[G]

Especially the Bereua one, since you've pretty much literally done it all by the time you get that one.

Yeah, it's pretty stupid. I put it on and went "hog wild" for 5 minutes before getting bored, because there isn't jack shit to do. I am still at the same checkpoint from like a week ago when I hit 100%.

[Kane Knight]

Ok, so basically I should do everything I can as John, IE, all 4 10 level challenges, all the stranger missions, kill all the buffalo, kill 18 bears, buy all the houses and do all the scrap challenges?

Doesn't matter. Only missable is the I Know You missions. You own't get 100% before that event anyway.

Ok. I can honestly say, the picking flowers 10 level challenge, is the gayest fucking thing ever. What hard-ass legit cowboy ever spent hours picking fucking flowers?

Most cowboys are gay.

Yeah, it's pretty stupid. I put it on and went "hog wild" for 5 minutes before getting bored, because there isn't jack shit to do. I am still at the same checkpoint from like a week ago when I hit 100%.

Yeah, I can't see much point after beating the story. Probably just got to MP.

[G]

that was some pretty powerful stuff. i need a moment to reflect.

[Ermaximus]

Doesn't matter. Only missable is the I Know You missions. You own't get 100% before that event anyway.


I've finished the I Know You Missions, and I still have no idea who that asshole in the top hat is/was. Clearly though, he's someone John killed/knew in the past.

[Juan]

What's the deal with the California stranger mission? I'm almost done with the story and its never popped up on my map.

[Kane Knight]

I've finished the I Know You Missions, and I still have no idea who that asshole in the top hat is/was. Clearly though, he's someone John killed/knew in the past.
A lot of theories are abound that he's God, the Devil, one of the Angels of Death/Judgment, or simply John's conscience. I doubt we'll ever get answers, but I'm not sure his talk about his son growing up to kill as easily as Marston, nor the fact that his response to "Damn You" is "Many have" fit either with God or a ghost of someone from John's past.

I do think someone was either testing or tormenting him, but I'm not sure it was someone from his past.

Also, I think it's kinda cool that the last place you see him is so significant in the end.

[Blitz]

Can't get the Army scrap or Marshall outfits until you start the game with Jack Marston..
Thanks for the spoiler, champ.

[ClockShot]

Thanks for the spoiler, champ.

Jack is another name for John. :shifty:

Anyways, Bounty Hunting sucks. 40+ bounties and you gotta 1 at each of the select areas in each region. 8 spots on the frontier, 8 in mexico, 4 up north.

[El Fangel]

I used to be able to commit minor crimes up to 1 murder. Now if I do anything in town I am arrested. Anyone know why? I haven't changed outfits or anything.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I used to be able to commit minor crimes up to 1 murder. Now if I do anything in town I am arrested. Anyone know why? I haven't changed outfits or anything.

What are your Honor and Fame levels like? I think it depends on where you stand in one or both of those categories, i.e. if your honor level is real low, you might get a notice in the upper corner of the screen warning you that if you commit any crimes whatsoever, you'll be pursued or whatever. Dunno for sure though, just what I feel to be a pretty well-educated guess.

[El Fangel]

Both have only gone up.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I think, too, another thing is that it varies from town to town in the game as to how you're percieved based on your previous actions on prior visits. For example if you killed a bunch of people, or robbed the bank or whatever too much, even though your honor and fame might be pretty high, the people of that town might look down on you and the law there may pursue you relentlessly with even the slightest slip-up. At least that's how I think it works.

[DAMN iNATOR]

What's the deal with the California stranger mission? I'm almost done with the story and its never popped up on my map.

He's found by a rock to the north of The Scratching Post by some archways. He plays a harmonica. He can most often be found in the daytime however, reports of him showing up at the same location for the first encounter have been reported at 8:50pm, 11:00pm, and 2:00am.

Hope this helps.

[Kane Knight]

I used to be able to commit minor crimes up to 1 murder. Now if I do anything in town I am arrested. Anyone know why? I haven't changed outfits or anything.Had the same thing. Said I wouldn't get a wanted rating for anything short of murder.

Stole a horse, WANTED.

[Ermaximus]

Had the same thing. Said I wouldn't get a wanted rating for anything short of murder.

Stole a horse, WANTED.

I ran over a dog on my horse by accident because it ran out in front of me while I was riding out of town. WANTED. $5 freaking dollar bounty. For running over a stupid dog!

[Kane Knight]

I ran over a dog on my horse by accident because it ran out in front of me while I was riding out of town. WANTED. $5 freaking dollar bounty. For running over a stupid dog!
Yeah, I hate those suicidal dogs.

[Ermaximus]

Yeah, I hate those suicidal dogs.

Seriously. It's the boney brown ones that look about ready to die anyways, and if they are dumb enough to run in front of a moving horse, it's their own damn fault. $5 bounty, ffs!

[El Fangel]

Had the same thing. Said I wouldn't get a wanted rating for anything short of murder.

Stole a horse, WANTED.

Apparently at certain levels of honor and fame you get perks, which you lose if you go up or down.

Thats fucking bullshit because that was the best one, now the I have I guess is Lawman take twice as long to "hunt me down"

I have had like $400 bounty for most of the game and they only hunted me down once and I easily eluded them.

[Kane Knight]

Seriously. It's the boney brown ones that look about ready to die anyways, and if they are dumb enough to run in front of a moving horse, it's their own damn fault. $5 bounty, ffs!

yeah, but the game doesn't buy "it was an accident!" As an excuse.

Fortunately, I've got more money than I know what to do with. I'm tempted to just buy up all the horse deeds. No need to, just...Something to do with it.

I also hate how in SP, you can sometimes get a bounty with no witnesses.

[El Fangel]

It was great with the no bounty thing, lined up 15 people on the train tracks :)

[Ermaximus]

It was great with the no bounty thing, lined up 15 people on the train tracks :)

Hahaha I want to see this in video form now. Better yet, hogtie an entire gang and line them all up on the tracks.

I wonder if you'd get good fame and honor for it or if the lawmen will run over and try to free the guys before the train hits like they do when you put a woman on the tracks?

[Fignuts]

A lot of theories are abound that he's God, the Devil, one of the Angels of Death/Judgment, or simply John's conscience. I doubt we'll ever get answers, but I'm not sure his talk about his son growing up to kill as easily as Marston, nor the fact that his response to "Damn You" is "Many have" fit either with God or a ghost of someone from John's past.

I do think someone was either testing or tormenting him, but I'm not sure it was someone from his past.

Also, I think it's kinda cool that the last place you see him is so significant in the end.

I am of the opinion that it is the devil. Many have "damned" the devil as well. I would assume the devil knows marston better than god would, given how much of a sinner he is. Also, the missions you do, parallel the temptations of christ.

[Disturbed316]

I got a bounty on me after I punched a police horse :-\

Regarding the I Know You mission:

I would say that he is most certainly a ghost from Marstons past, probably someone he knew and gunned down during a job. If you read the newspapers, it says how some towns have reported ghost sightings.

Plus, looking at the guides it says you cant complete the mission once you are in control of Jack, so its definately someone John knew.

[ClockShot]

.2%. POINT FREAKING TWO PERCENT IS ALL I NEED TO FINISH THIS!

I've got the curse of the ? bounties. G, you got 100%, you come across this problem?

[Kane Knight]

I am of the opinion that it is the devil. Many have "damned" the devil as well. I would assume the devil knows marston better than god would, given how much of a sinner he is. Also, the missions you do, parallel the temptations of christ.
I'm tempted (no pun intended) to agree. Though the Angels of Death are often portrayed as testing the soon to die, so I could see an argument there. The reminder that he will be held accountable makes me think of the Devil, though. Technically, he doesn't sit in judgment, but he doesn'tneed to. He seems to be reminding Marston that he's a bad man, something I doubt God would do, even Old Testament God.

[Kane Knight]

I got a bounty on me after I punched a police horse :-\

Regarding the I Know You mission:

I would say that he is most certainly a ghost from Marstons past, probably someone he knew and gunned down during a job. If you read the newspapers, it says how some towns have reported ghost sightings.

Plus, looking at the guides it says you cant complete the mission once you are in control of Jack, so its definately someone John knew.
The ghosts regard Tumbleweed and only tumbleweed as far as I know, a place supposedly haunted and one the stranger never appears in.

The second point is just kind of...Dumb. Why would any of the other theories be invalidated by not being able to complete it as Jack? Would God/The Devil/Any other party in charge of judgment or testing John test Jack about John's sins, test his character, or foreshadow his upcoming (past for Jack) death?

[DAMN iNATOR]

Poker is still way tough for me even when wearing the Elegant Suit (allows you to cheat at Poker). The fucking right thumbstick is way too sensitive no matter what I set the default sensitivity slider to under Options, and 90% of the time I end up getting called out for a fucking duel for cheating, and I have to load up my last save.

The swapping out cards once I have my hand made isn't nearly so tough though. I have a feeling it'll still be a bitch to win at a hand in Blackwater for that one outfit scrap however.

[Verbose Minch]

How do you have trouble playing poker? Cheating makes it even easier. I did the blackwater scrap without even cheating.

[DAMN iNATOR]

How do you have trouble playing poker? Cheating makes it even easier. I did the blackwater scrap without even cheating.

I was mainly referring to just when Marston's dealing the cards, and you hit "Y" and, I dunno, maybe it's just me but that slider is fucking slippery as hell, and I just have a terrible time keeping it out of the red zones that tips off someone at the table.

[ClockShot]

Got my 100% and my Friends in High Places. Tried going for Going South on a White Bronco, but that's gonna be an all day task in itself.

[Kane Knight]

I'm yet to cheat at poker. Seriously, poker's fucking easy in this game.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I'm not saying it's not easy for the most part. Just I'll narrow the field down to me and one other dude and no matter how smart I play, cheating or not, I end up fucking busting out.

[Kane Knight]

I've only busted out once, and poker's not even a game I particularly consider myself good at.

[BigDaddyCool]

I find it easier to win poker without cheating. The game is to predictable.

[Ermaximus]

How do you have trouble playing poker? Cheating makes it even easier. I did the blackwater scrap without even cheating.

Likewise. You can bluff the AI so easily and theyll either fold or take the bait like idiots. Took out 2 players in 1 hand with a pair of 3's while the AI had a King High and a pair of 2's. The only pain is beating that last guy, because a majority of the time they just reraise on every hand.

[Ermaximus]

I'm yet to cheat at poker. Seriously, poker's fucking easy in this game.

Cheating isn't worth it anyways because if they catch you, all your winnings go away and you have to duel the guy who catches you.

[El Fangel]

Cheating isn't worth it anyways because if they catch you, all your winnings go away and you have to duel the guy who catches you.

That, right there made me so fucking angry.

I got caught when the last fucker had 20 in chips left.

[Ermaximus]

That, right there made me so fucking angry.

I got caught when the last fucker had 20 in chips left.

Yea, the first time I used the elegant suit was after I bought it in Thieves Landing. Played poker there and got the first 3 of 5 guys out and then cheated once and didn't get it and the Asian guy at the table wigged out and called me a fuckin' cheat. Next thing I know we're dueling and all my chips are gone. Was so pissed. That's why I love liar's dice so much. So much easier to bullshit the AI.

[BigDaddyCool]

I haven't figured out liar's dice yet.

[Ermaximus]

I haven't figured out liar's dice yet.

REALLY? Dude, what about it is confusing you? You just have to know how to call the AI's bullshit.

[Disturbed316]

I think lair's dice is my favourite mini game, pretty much easy money.

[BigDaddyCool]

REALLY? Dude, what about it is confusing you? You just have to know how to call the AI's bullshit.

I played it once and I guess I just didn't understand how it work.

[Ermaximus]

I played it once and I guess I just didn't understand how it work.

Just play based off what you have. Say you have 4 6's, start with that as your opening bet. More than likely the AI will call a bluff and get caught with a true bet and lose a die. Keep doing this until the AI has 2 die left. Reading them from there is easy as they always try to bluff and if you have more die, you know what's really in play.

[BigDaddyCool]

Ah, I'll try that.

[Requiem]

You're just guessing how many dice of a certain kind you think are on the whole table. If you're unsure about something, you can just up the bet yourself to something you're more positive about, or you can call their bluff if you think there's less than that (if there's more than that, the bet was good). If you bet a higher number, or more dice, you just keep it going.. Pretty fun game, especially with more people.. I've only ever had 2 NPCs at the table though.

[Ermaximus]

You're just guessing how many dice of a certain kind you think are on the whole table. If you're unsure about something, you can just up the bet yourself to something you're more positive about, or you can call their bluff if you think there's less than that (if there's more than that, the bet was good). If you bet a higher number, or more dice, you just keep it going.. Pretty fun game, especially with more people.. I've only ever had 2 NPCs at the table though.

Most I've gotten was 4 at a table in Mexico, and my lord that was intense.

[Kane Knight]

Cheating isn't worth it anyways because if they catch you, all your winnings go away and you have to duel the guy who catches you.

Yeah, I hear it's great if you're looking for fights, but I've done enough duels so it doesn't matter.

I haven't figured out liar's dice yet.

It's simple math and reasoning. No wonder you're fucked.

[BigDaddyCool]

:'(

[El Fangel]

It's simple math and reasoning. No wonder you're fucked.

:rofl:

[El Fangel]

Yeah, I hear it's great if you're looking for fights, but I've done enough duels so it doesn't matter.


Keep cheating at the McFarland ranch games, only $10 a game which is great.

[Triple Naitch]

Love playing Blackjack on here for some reason.

[Kane Knight]

Keep cheating at the McFarland ranch games, only $10 a game which is great.

Again, why?

[ClockShot]

Just played free roam with a few of buddies.

Note: Don't interupt another posse's gang hideout challenge.

[Fignuts]

Played Liar's Dice for real yesterday.

Fucking excellent drinking game.

[Ermaximus]

Just played free roam with a few of buddies.

Note: Don't interupt another posse's gang hideout challenge.

Depends on who it is. We had a posse of 5 going the other night and went into Pike's Basin. About midway into it, another posse of 4 showed up and helped us clean it out then left. Some groups can be nice, but others can real douchebags. I prefer running towards the douches with dynamite in hand. That usually scares them off.

[Kane Knight]

Depends on who it is. We had a posse of 5 going the other night and went into Pike's Basin. About midway into it, another posse of 4 showed up and helped us clean it out then left. Some groups can be nice, but others can real douchebags. I prefer running towards the douches with dynamite in hand. That usually scares them off.

Yeah, had a posse of three just camp at Pike's Basin shooting us every time we went after something. I don't get that mentality.

[Ermaximus]

Yeah, had a posse of three just camp at Pike's Basin shooting us every time we went after something. I don't get that mentality.

Eh, just random idiots that have nothing better to do than be dipshits. No better than the people that camp the high ground spots during a team based match.

[Kane Knight]

yeah, but that's a match.

Not only that, but they all but tell you to take the high ground in this game. I get that, and I don't have a problem. Well, I get irked by spawn camping, but that's not the same thing.

I'm only really puzzled by this antagonistic behaviour in free roam. Well, puzzled isn't the word. I just don't understand how people get something out of it.

[ClockShot]

Depends on who it is. We had a posse of 5 going the other night and went into Pike's Basin. About midway into it, another posse of 4 showed up and helped us clean it out then left. Some groups can be nice, but others can real douchebags. I prefer running towards the douches with dynamite in hand. That usually scares them off.

Not really. Me and my buddy were running around getting the gang hideout free roam achievement. There were only about 5 players in the session. We were on our way to Fort Mercer and there were 2 guys in there. We've been watching them for a while and they should have been done a long time ago. We get there, slip in the back, we kill a couple of guys and we get credit for the challenge.

They kill me, my partner kills them, and we beat feet into Mexico to Tesuro Azul. We start that up, they follow and shoot us up all the way to Nosalida. Bunch of pricks. We got the achievement in the long run. But learned to sit back and wait or go somewhere else.

[El Fangel]

Again, why?
Probably should have explained that. I cheat, get caught, duel, disarm, repeat.

Since its the cheapest place I know to play poker, I do it there.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Played Liar's Dice for real yesterday.

Fucking excellent drinking game.

Only real complaint I have about Liar's Dice is how it goes from insanely easy to fucking cakewalk when it's down to you and the other guy...say I have 4 of my dice left, the other guy only has 1, bids 3 3's...well, if you have none, and dude only has 1 die left...way too easy to call his bluff. I chalk it up to just being the nature of the game when it gets down to that stage, but still a tad annoying.

[Ermaximus]

Thank the lord I am done with the flowering picking bullshit! Now to get to level 10 on sharpshooter and hunter and then I can finish this game.

Also, wtf is with the guy in the "California?" side quest?

[Kane Knight]

Probably should have explained that. I cheat, get caught, duel, disarm, repeat.

Since its the cheapest place I know to play poker, I do it there.

Again, why?

Only real complaint I have about Liar's Dice is how it goes from insanely easy to fucking cakewalk when it's down to you and the other guy...say I have 4 of my dice left, the other guy only has 1, bids 3 3's...well, if you have none, and dude only has 1 die left...way too easy to call his bluff. I chalk it up to just being the nature of the game when it gets down to that stage, but still a tad annoying.

Since you're required to escalate each bid, it doesn't take long to kill someone with one or two dice. It's easier when there's only you two, but it's very much the nature of the beast.

Thank the lord I am done with the flowering picking bullshit! Now to get to level 10 on sharpshooter and hunter and then I can finish this game.

Also, wtf is with the guy in the "California?" side quest?

Once I found out there were bonuses for each, I went out of the way to snag the challenges. I like perks. Even if some of them are dumb.

California seems borderline pointless.

[Ermaximus]

Found a good place to track my route to 100% though. Using the Rockstar Social Club site and it shows everything I've done, except for a few bugs the site has. (Not showing my stranger missions or my ambient challenges.) Still, it's a big help. Can't wait to get home and headshot some bears and buffalo with my buffalo rifle.

Also, has anyone headshot a bear at point blank range with the shotgun yet? It's awesome to watch in slow motion.

[BigDaddyCool]

I played liars dice yesterday without losing a single dice. It is easy if you never lie.

[Kane Knight]

LOL. you discovered the Rockstar Social Club, which was one of the advertised features of the game, to do what they advertised.

[Ermaximus]

LOL. you discovered the Rockstar Social Club, which was one of the advertised features of the game, to do what they advertised.

Yea. I kinda overlook small stuff like that at first. :-\

[Xero]

http://www.virtualshackles.com/img/red_dead_ladder.jpg

lol

[Skippord]

I feel kind of bad killing the animals :(

[The Fugitive]

I felt bad at first, but the cougars changed my tune. Now I just shoot anything with four legs and a heartbeat, just in case.

[BigDaddyCool]

I was driving home yesterday and saw a fawn (baby deer for you morons) jumping along the side of the road by a farm house (between the suburbs of kansas city there rural areas). I caught myself looking for a rifle and knife, that is when I knew I have played to mucn rdr.

[Kane Knight]

I was driving home yesterday and saw a fawn (baby deer for you morons) jumping along the side of the road by a farm house (between the suburbs of kansas city there rural areas). I caught myself looking for a rifle and knife, that is when I knew I have played to mucn rdr.
Josh U-Betcha says (8:55 PM):
*I was driving home yesterday and saw a fawn jumping along the side of the road by a farm house (between the suburbs of kansas city there rural areas). I caught myself looking for a rifle and knife, that is when I knew I have played to mucn rdr.
Squeegee Beckenheim of the Order of the Shrinking Leg Hole says (8:57 PM):
*Pssh. You haven't been playing too much RDR until you start looking around for the Cougar.

[Mooияakeя™]

I've just got this game. Looking forward to playing it. Reading the posts here and having a couple of guys at work rave about it has forced my hand.

[Disturbed316]

Trying to kill the cougars with my knife for the challenge, so far I have died every time.

[Mooияakeя™]

I have it now and have played it. Only done one or two missions for the woman at the start, but I have done 2 treasure maps, a few side missions and drown several times. I heard there is a way to get a *** horse at the start by hanging rock. I've looked for ages, but no chance.

I will play it more soon, but enjoying the side of it first, like I did with GTA IV, I just roam for a bit, getting to know the place....

I really hope GTA goes back to the 1980's (Vice City!!!), but I have to admit, this is a welcome change in the sandbox style game.

p.s. any tips at for a guy at the start that ain't so difficult? I have cleared people out at poker (expected a trophy too! - but alas, nothing :()

[Disturbed316]

Had my first taste of online today, went and did all the hideouts but had some annoying dick following me all the way and killing me half the time :mad:

[Kane Knight]

Expect that to happen a lot.

[Ermaximus]

98.1% complete! :foc:

Missing 4 bounty locations, the US Marshal outfit, the legend of the West outfit, and that last challenge that requires you to disarm 6 guys without reloading which I can't seem to get. Using dead eye doesn't work as I always reload after using it.

[Disturbed316]

Try using dead eye without marking, wont reload that way.

[Kane Knight]

Try using dead eye without marking, wont reload that way.

or you can even use deadeye, if you're at level 3 and mark.

Just saying, I got it that way.

[Ermaximus]

Try using dead eye without marking, wont reload that way.
I have, but it always reloads after I shoot a gun out of a guys hand and resets my counter.
or you can even use deadeye, if you're at level 3 and mark.

Just saying, I got it that way.

I've tried this too, but I have the same problem. I've tried doing it without using dead eye as well, but I'll get to 4 and then run out of bullets. I'm using the Evans repeater btw. 22 max shots.

[PorkSoda]

So....is this game worth getting?

I have no idea what its about or anything. Someone fill me in.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

GTA as a cowboy is what it's about.

So yes, worth getting.

[Mooияakeя™]

Seriously though, how do I know what horse I'm on??? John Marston might be able to tell, so whats wrong with having the thing down the bottom right ala GTA.

[Kane Knight]

I have, but it always reloads after I shoot a gun out of a guys hand and resets my counter.


I've tried this too, but I have the same problem. I've tried doing it without using dead eye as well, but I'll get to 4 and then run out of bullets. I'm using the Evans repeater btw. 22 max shots.

[Kane Knight]

I have, but it always reloads after I shoot a gun out of a guys hand and resets my counter. I've tried this too, but I have the same problem. I've tried doing it without using dead eye as well, but I'll get to 4 and then run out of bullets. I'm using the Evans repeater btw. 22 max shots.Deadeye is a free reload.

[Disturbed316]

Trying to finish up all the odd bits that I didn't get done earlier in story mode and I'm missing the Aztec Gold and California stranger missions, where can I find these people?

[Ermaximus]

Deadeye is a free reload.

So it won't count against the challenge? I was told otherwise. That's my only concern, but I'll try it when I get home and if it doesn't work I'll let you know.

[Ermaximus]

Trying to finish up all the odd bits that I didn't get done earlier in story mode and I'm missing the Aztec Gold and California stranger missions, where can I find these people?

California is near The Scratching Post, and Aztec Gold is found in Sidewinder Gulch. Just set a waypoint there and use fast travel via your campsite and you're set man.

[Kane Knight]

So it won't count against the challenge? I was told otherwise. That's my only concern, but I'll try it when I get home and if it doesn't work I'll let you know.

I Deadeyed my way to it. Well, specifically, I used the deadeye to reload (and get a couple of the shots).

[Ermaximus]

I Deadeyed my way to it. Well, specifically, I used the deadeye to reload (and get a couple of the shots).

Going to try it out in about an hour and 30 minutes. Only 45 minutes left at work and am currently trying to find a way to leave early.

[Kane Knight]

Heh.

[Ermaximus]

Heh.

Ok so both the VP's and my boss all left early, so as soon as the accountant leaves, I'm bailing. The old bird who sits next to me won't even notice I'm gone or she'll think I'm in the file room filling out charts. Booyah.

[BigDaddyCool]

Ok so both the VP's and my boss all left early, so as soon as the accountant leaves, I'm bailing. The old bird who sits next to me won't even notice I'm gone or she'll think I'm in the file room filling out charts. Booyah.

I'm still here and I'm an accountant.

[Ermaximus]

I'm still here and I'm an accountant.

Yes, but you're not my companies accountant, unless you cross dress as a large breasted woman with short hair and sit in the office next to me.

Also, got that 100%. Fuck yes!

[G]

Welcome to the club. Your first newsletter with arrive in 6-8 weeks.

[Kane Knight]

I'm still here and I'm an accountant.

Yeah, but you're a chump.

Yes, but you're not my companies accountant, unless you cross dress as a large breasted woman with short hair and sit in the office next to me.

Also, got that 100%. Fuck yes!

He does cross dress, but I don't think he's the one you're talking aboot.

[Ermaximus]

Welcome to the club. Your first newsletter with arrive in 6-8 weeks.
I'm looking forward to it, even though the rockstar social club site says I am 99.9%, because it says I'm missing 1 part of the bandito outfit. TBH, the only outfit I don't have is the Deadly Assassin one, and even then I just need to win a duel in Armadillo.


He does cross dress, but I don't think he's the one you're talking aboot.

Damn.

[Kane Knight]

I'm looking forward to it, even though the rockstar social club site says I am 99.9%, because it says I'm missing 1 part of the bandito outfit. TBH, the only outfit I don't have is the Deadly Assassin one, and even then I just need to win a duel in Armadillo.



Damn.

Did they fix the social club tracking then? Cool.

[BigDaddyCool]

Yes, but you're not my companies accountant, unless you cross dress as a large breasted woman with short hair and sit in the office next to me.

Also, got that 100%. Fuck yes!

I'm small tits long hair.

[Kane Knight]

Dammit. Still says I'm at 95.4%. definitely not fixed.

[Kane Knight]

I'm small tits long hair.

Too easy.

[G]

Mine isn't fixed either, but then again I haven't played RDR since the update. Maybe I need to load it up for it to update the server?

[Kane Knight]

Mine isn't fixed either, but then again I haven't played RDR since the update. Maybe I need to load it up for it to update the server?

I loaded mine up, and it's partially fixed. My rare guns and strangers are updated, for example. It's still behind. It's like 96.8 now, when my games says 99.2.

[Kane Knight]

I got the scrap at Torquemada, finally, and it still doesn't say I beat Five Finger Fillet.

[Ermaximus]

I got the scrap at Torquemada, finally, and it still doesn't say I beat Five Finger Fillet.

What've you got left to do for the 100%?

[Kane Knight]

Bounties. I'm pretty sure that's it.

[Ermaximus]

Bounties. I'm pretty sure that's it.

Ah. I had 3 left last night, and they were all in Mexico and it was a bitch having to wait for them to show up.

[BigDaddyCool]

Why won't xbox let me posse up with dudes I know when I get on xbox live?

[Ermaximus]

Why won't xbox let me posse up with dudes I know when I get on xbox live?

:?:

[Kane Knight]

Ah. I had 3 left last night, and they were all in Mexico and it was a bitch having to wait for them to show up.

Yeah, I s[pent 20 minutes on one.

[Kane Knight]

:?:

It wouldn't let Becker join up with me last night. Since I can join up with other TPWWers, I can only assume it's some sort of quality control. :D

[BigDaddyCool]

:?:

Kane Knight and I were trying to join the same game or party or something and it wouldn't let us.

[BigDaddyCool]

It wouldn't let Becker join up with me last night. Since I can join up with other TPWWers, I can only assume it's some sort of quality control. :D

:'(

[Ermaximus]

It could be because your connections aren't allowing you to connect. I've had that happen tons of times myself and it's annoying as shit.

[BigDaddyCool]

But I can play free roam...I'm not sure if that means anything.

I did keep killing one guy last night to vent my frustrations.

[Kane Knight]

Kane Knight and I were trying to join the same game or party or something and it wouldn't let us.

Speaking of Party, it may have been live. It was playing Schrodinger's Cat with you. You seemed to both be in my party and at the same time, not.

Or it could be your router. Could also technically be mine, but since I've got mine set up for Live, I have trouble believing I'm in the wrong.

[BigDaddyCool]

Say it is my router, which is could be, what do I need to do to correct it?

[Kane Knight]

Say it is my router, which is could be, what do I need to do to correct it?

You may need to open your nat and forward proper ports. You can find how tos at the XBox site.

[Kane Knight]

http://www.xbox360forum.com/xbox-forum/threads/51908-How-To-Open-NAT.-xbox-360.

Given my suspicion you'll need more info.

[Kane Knight]

I think I've got all the bounties in Mexico, and only need three in West E and one in New Austin.

[Kane Knight]

My suspicions will be confirmed if my stats update on R* or if I get bored later and try and take the last of the bounties.

[G]

My suspicions will be confirmed if my stats update on R* or if I get bored later and try and take the last of the bounties.

On the in game stats menu it'll tell you how many you have in each of the 3 territories. From what I understand, there are a gajillion ??? bounties, so you'd be going at it for a long time looking to run out of them.

[Kane Knight]

Didn't even look there. The ??? Bounties can still count towards completion, from what I've read.

[Verbose Minch]

KK, the ???? Bounties do count towards it. When I got my 100%, those are what I needed to complete it.

Also, just for anybody (BDC) that needs it, this is what I used when I had to fix my NAT.

http://ninjas4hire.com/posts/fix-xbox-live-nat-from-strict-to-open/

[DAMN iNATOR]

On the in game stats menu it'll tell you how many you have in each of the 3 territories. From what I understand, there are a gajillion ??? bounties, so you'd be going at it for a long time looking to run out of them.


Which sub-menu under Stats is it to display your total # of bounties collected? Because I've looked there already, so I've probably overlooked it.

[G]

General probably

[DAMN iNATOR]

General probably

That's what I was thinking. Not that it matters too much for me right now, as I'm only at like 82.3% or something. But thanks.

[Kane Knight]

It's under score for the record. No wonder I didn't see it before.

Only have three left, West Elizabeth. :D

[BigDaddyCool]

Well if I plug the xbox directly into the modem, it works.

Until kk killed me.

[Ermaximus]

It's under score for the record. No wonder I didn't see it before.

Only have three left, West Elizabeth. :D

Nekoti Rock, Bearclaw Camp, Aurora Basin, and 1 other location near those. Simple stuff.

[Kane Knight]

Nekoti Rock, Bearclaw Camp, Aurora Basin, and 1 other location near those. Simple stuff.

Did them already. And yeah, it was those three. Only problem I had was that at Nekoti, my horse decided to commit suicide. I whistled for it, and as I got on, it walked off the edge of the cliff. So I fell, my horse died, and I got set upon by a pack of wolves. Once I had fended off the wolves, more of the outlaws had already shown, and my new horse was still not there. So I shoot them, try and chase down one of their horses, which are running away from me, and finally decide to just book it on foot, whistling every couple of seconds. :D

I still find it weird that you can hold A and run without any press of the directional stick.

Also, for the lulz:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-ways-red-dead-redemption-hates-women/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fanpage&utm_campaign=blog+seanbaby061010

[Disturbed316]

Quick question about California:

After your second encounter with him, how long does it take before he shows up again?

[Kane Knight]

I came across him again in a couple days. It seems to vary, though.

[DAMN iNATOR]

It's under score for the record. No wonder I didn't see it before.

Only have three left, West Elizabeth. :D

Yeah, I've noticed that as well. Had a pretty huge day in-game, as I earned 3 achievements, On the Trail of de Vaca (10G)for finding all 94 map locations, Man of Honor/Chivalry's Dead (25G) for having maxed out +HONOR/+FAME levels, Austin Overpowered for "completing" Twin Rocks, Pike's Basin, and Gaptooth Breach. Gonna have to keep completing those along with the other two US hideouts until I've done them all in 24 in-game hours (48 real world mins.). I'd love to finally obtain the US Marshal outfit.

[Kane Knight]

The 24 hour bit is pretty easy. Fast horse, stamina items if you're feeling dodgy, and shoot the fuck out of people.

Oh, and it's best to start from one side of the map or the other, in case common sense doesn't tell you that. :D

[G]

. Gonna have to keep completing those along with the other two US hideouts until I've done them all in 24 in-game hours (48 real world mins.). I'd love to finally obtain the US Marshal outfit.

It's cake dude. Took me 5 in game hours.

[Ermaximus]

Yeah, I've noticed that as well. Had a pretty huge day in-game, as I earned 3 achievements, On the Trail of de Vaca (10G)for finding all 94 map locations, Man of Honor/Chivalry's Dead (25G) for having maxed out +HONOR/+FAME levels, Austin Overpowered for "completing" Twin Rocks, Pike's Basin, and Gaptooth Breach. Gonna have to keep completing those along with the other two US hideouts until I've done them all in 24 in-game hours (48 real world mins.). I'd love to finally obtain the US Marshal outfit.

You can't get it until after you beat the game anyways, and it's cake. Just start at Fort Mercer, then hit Gaptooth Breach and work your way to Pike's Basin from there.

[Kane Knight]

I did it the other way. but yeah, you need to do it after the story.

[Disturbed316]

Finishing up the bounty's aswell, what is the actual number for the three zones? I know its 20 overall but how is it split up?

[G]

I'm sure it's old to some of you, but I just found out about the dark horse you get for having the lowest honor rank. White face with cuts on the legs. Looks cool

[G]

8 8 4

[Kane Knight]

Finishing up the bounty's aswell, what is the actual number for the three zones? I know its 20 overall but how is it split up?

8 in New Austin and Mehico, and 4 in West E.

[Kane Knight]

I'm sure it's old to some of you, but I just found out about the dark horse you get for having the lowest honor rank. White face with cuts on the legs. Looks cool

I've been told the horse is terrible for what you need a horse for.

[G]

Performance wise it sucks balls, but it looks incredible. :(

[Kane Knight]

Yeah, I meant performance, so I've never tried to get my honour that low.

I love that a game that promotes choice punishes you for being bad.

[Ermaximus]

Yeah, I meant performance, so I've never tried to get my honour that low.

I love that a game that promotes choice punishes you for being bad.

I can't stand when it lowers your honor for NOT helping someone in need. It's bullshit. If I don't feel like chasing down a stolen horse or saving some whore getting stabbed, why should I be punished for it?

[G]

I don't think I've had that happen? It's been over a month, so I could have have just forgotten it.

[Kane Knight]

I can't stand when it lowers your honor for NOT helping someone in need. It's bullshit. If I don't feel like chasing down a stolen horse or saving some whore getting stabbed, why should I be punished for it?

I've never had that happen.

I've had it glitch when I was trying to give back the money to a shopkeeper. Despite mashing the "B" (I think) button to give it to him, it waits a minute and says I didn't do it. Sometimes, the prompt doesn't even come up.

Then again, the controls in this game are pretty terrible. I can't tell you how many times I've died simply because instead of taking cover, my MP character decides to sit there with a thumb up his ass. Or decided he doesn't need his gun out anymore, despite full ammo and me aiming right at an enemy. Or Decided not to duck back down into cover after I release the aim button. And I'm still surprised every time my character has to run in a five foot circle just to turn around.

[BigDaddyCool]

I've never had that happen.

I've had it glitch when I was trying to give back the money to a shopkeeper. Despite mashing the "B" (I think) button to give it to him, it waits a minute and says I didn't do it. Sometimes, the prompt doesn't even come up.

Then again, the controls in this game are pretty terrible. I can't tell you how many times I've died simply because instead of taking cover, my MP character decides to sit there with a thumb up his ass. Or decided he doesn't need his gun out anymore, despite full ammo and me aiming right at an enemy. Or Decided not to duck back down into cover after I release the aim button. And I'm still surprised every time my character has to run in a five foot circle just to turn around.

Sounds like real life...How about a fish out of water story where instead of playing a grizzled veteran that thought he was done but was pulled back in, instead you play a guy that gets caught in the middle of everything and occasionally freaked out. That would be fun.

[Kane Knight]

Sounds like real life...How about a fish out of water story where instead of playing a grizzled veteran that thought he was done but was pulled back in, instead you play a guy that gets caught in the middle of everything and occasionally freaked out. That would be fun.

Well yeah. It's totally like real life. Except I can whistle for a horse from across the map, murder people and pay only a fine, and stop time to execute a dozen people if I have a good enough gun.

Besides, if I wanted to play a spaz, I'd have encouraged Kalyx to go with the whole "Map yourself" thing.

[Hanso Amore]

Just beat it. Holy shit.

[Hanso Amore]

Man, James goes out like a fucking man. KK you nailed it, that was totally a cowboy way to go. Like he just accepted his fate and went down shooting. Dutch was right, there was no way to escape or change. I dont like the Jack shit, but I would have been pissed had they not allowed me free roam later on. Wish there was like a epilofue of all the characters.

[Fignuts]

I wouldn't mind Jack if he didn't sound so retarded. VA sucks for him.

Also, wtf, where are the new co-op missions. Thought they were supposed to be out by now.

[G]

22 or 23

[G]

I can appreciate the awesomeness of having a bull as my horse in multi, but it's just so fucking slow and can't jump. :(

[Kane Knight]

22 or 23

Which is about the timeframe we were told.

[Fignuts]

Well I wasn't told.

So there.

[Kane Knight]

Can't hold you accountable for month old, advertised news. Especially that which I'm pretty sure was posted in this thread a couple times.

That would be wrong.

[DAMN iNATOR]

You can't get it until after you beat the game anyways, and it's cake. Just start at Fort Mercer, then hit Gaptooth Breach and work your way to Pike's Basin from there.

I did it the other way. but yeah, you need to do it after the story.

Thanks, I realize that already. I was well past done with the story when my quest for it came about. I actually took the "West to East" approach recommended by an online guide, starting with Gaptooth Breach and ending in Ft. Mercer. I've obtained it now, and shall continue on with tracking down bounties and flowers and hunting and whatnot, as well as getting the other outfits.

[Mooияakeя™]

Man, just went online for 1st time on there. What shit. I'm ok doing gang hideouts and did both on my own then some guy just came and fucked me up. Each time I spawned I would get a shot on him with the Winchester and he would like 5 shot me in quick succession. Most if the time I
couldn't even lock onto him nut he would rape me. So shit.

[Fignuts]

Can't hold you accountable for month old, advertised news. Especially that which I'm pretty sure was posted in this thread a couple times.

That would be wrong.

It's a 31 page thread, for Liam Neeson's sake. I'm not going to follow every post, or backtrack through the whole thing, for one tidbit of info.

Good god man, I'm not Kalyx Triad.

[Disturbed316]

Man, just went online for 1st time on there. What shit. I'm ok doing gang hideouts and did both on my own then some guy just came and fucked me up. Each time I spawned I would get a shot on him with the Winchester and he would like 5 shot me in quick succession. Most if the time I
couldn't even lock onto him nut he would rape me. So shit.

Yeah I had that happen too, so gay. The guy even started following me round the other ones too.

[G]

Good god man, I'm not Kalyx Triad.

I think the internet would break if there were two of him.

[Extreme Angle]

For 100% I just need bounties :).

[Triple Naitch]

What's the best way to shoot a bear with one shot? I know to aim for the head, but is there a certain gun and can I use Dead Eye during it? I've killed like 4 bears with one shot but only got credit for one.

[Kane Knight]

What's the best way to shoot a bear with one shot? I know to aim for the head, but is there a certain gun and can I use Dead Eye during it? I've killed like 4 bears with one shot but only got credit for one.

If you've got to Master Hunter 5, then you have access to the Buffalo Rifle. Use that. I used Deadeye, but I didn't mark, so I don't know if you can get it by marking them. I merely activated it to slow down time and insure I had a clean headshot. then I blew the bear's brains out.

I also got it in like 45 seconds because I got gang raped by three bears after the first one. If not for deadeye and headshots, I might have been SCREEEEEWED.

[Triple Naitch]

Yeah I got the buffalo gun then did it pretty easily.

[Skippord]

god I hate Jack's stupid voice

[Kane Knight]

WORK YA DAMN NAG!

[Skippord]

I've started getting shot on purpose because he annoys me so much

[Kane Knight]

now do you believe I'm a Marston?