NFL 2011 Season Thread

[McLegend]

Stephen McGee might die tonight.

[Droford]

no way the Cowboys win vs the Giants next week without Romo

[Droford]

So essentially:

Ravens beat the Bengals, Jets beat the Dolphins
Pats/Ravens
Jets @ Texans
Steelers @ AFC WEST

Ravens beat the Bengals, Jets lose
Pats/Ravens
Bengals @ Texans
Steelers @ AFC WEST

Bengals beat Ravens/Steelers win
Pats/Steelers
Bengals @ Texans
Ravens @ AFC WEST

Bengals beat Ravens/Steelers lose
Pats/Ravens
Bengals @ Texans
Steelers @ AFC WEST

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Twitter summary:

toojiggy (http://twitter.com/#%21/toojiggy) T.J. Jefferson



The East German judges gave Cincy WR Jerome Simpson a perfect 10 on his flip into the end zone for the TD.

Mashew8 (http://twitter.com/#%21/Mashew8) Michelle Dickason



East German judge took a point away for using his hand... "<s>@</s>AndrewSiciliano (http://twitter.com/AndrewSiciliano): Jerome Simpson stuck the dismount!"

mfergwooster (http://twitter.com/#%21/mfergwooster) Mike Ferguson



Even the East German judge gave Jerome Simpson a 10 on that play

AirMaxTane (http://twitter.com/#%21/AirMaxTane) Max Tane



Chris Meyers doesn't like the East German Judge RT <s>@</s>bjakobs03 (http://twitter.com/bjakobs03): Jerome Simpson are you kidding me? <s class="hash">#</s>incredible (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23incredible)

AMCombs3 (http://twitter.com/#%21/AMCombs3) Alex Combs



East German judge even gave Jerome Simpson a 10 on that! WOW!

stlmetsfan5 (http://twitter.com/#%21/stlmetsfan5) STLMetsFan5



East German judge gave it a 9. “<s>@</s>azbobbymac (http://twitter.com/azbobbymac): Jerome Simpson! I'd give that a 10!!!”

cbuseric (http://twitter.com/#%21/cbuseric) Eric W. Schieve



Legit front flip.10.0,10.0, 9.5 from the East German judge for Jerome Simpson. Good Lord.

StewMyrick (http://twitter.com/#%21/StewMyrick) Stewart Myrick



East German judge scored it a 9.5...RT <s>@</s>wingoz (http://twitter.com/wingoz): Jerome Simpson with the flip on the TD catch...and stuck the landing! <s class="hash">#</s>kerristruggesque (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23kerristruggesque)

UKBigE15 (http://twitter.com/#%21/UKBigE15) Erich Stacy



Jerome Simpson just got 6 for the Bengals and a 10.0 from the East German judge. <s class="hash">#</s>WOW (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23WOW)

jPRO29 (http://twitter.com/#%21/jPRO29) Jon Prosinski



The East German judge gave Jerome Simpson an 8. <s class="hash">#</s>harsh (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23harsh)

Vinyl_G (http://twitter.com/#%21/Vinyl_G) Greg Sweeney



Jerome Simpson sticks the landing for a TD, but the East German judge might call it back. <s class="hash">#</s>christmasgift (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23christmasgift)

[Crimson]

Droford..dont you have the matchups backwards? I think Steelers/Ravens would matchup against an AFC west team..not against the Texans

[McLegend]

How can Sanchez be that bad? That's hard to be that bad.

He has to be hurt.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Feels great to put the final dagger in the Eagles' season. Now to hope for fluke injuries in the Cowboys/Eagles game.</font>

[FearedSanctity]

Looks like it'll be Giants/Cowboys on SNF. Shocker. I'd be just as good with KC/DEN obviously or CIN/BAL and suppose those games have an outside chance. No way SD/OAK gets flexed though, because if Denver wins earlier that game becomes meaningless

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>It will definitely be Giants/Cowboys...which kinda sucks. Hate the night games.</font>

[screech]

So are the Eagles definitely eliminated now, no matter what happens in their game?

[FearedSanctity]

Yes sir

[McLegend]

Yeah the Eagles are finished.

Eli Manning was horrendous today. He completed 9 passes, and his team won the fuckin game.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Next week is gonna be a close game that comes down to the end. Prolly gonna have a heart attack win or lose.</font>

[Droford]

Droford..dont you have the matchups backwards? I think Steelers/Ravens would matchup against an AFC west team..not against the Texans
eh..so i do..oops

[Nark Order]

Seahawks came for revenge today. Jesus. There's been like 6 fights already.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

MEGATRON

[Droford]

Nice to see Detroit taking care of SD, Oakland and Denver are not as scary coming out of the AFC West.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

yeah it's lucky the Ravens don't have to play the Seahawks in the playoffs either huh

[screech]

Very lucky.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

screech I would like to wish you the best of luck in this upcoming contest between our two favorite football squadrons

[Team Sheep]

Wow the Jets were painful to watch. Fair play that Giants defense was relentless. Could see them make a deep playoff run on that alone. I'm perhaps foolishly still holding out some hope for next week but if the Jets don't make it then I'll have no complaints, simply not good enough this year. After last year's good run the lockout just came at the worst time and disrupted everything. Not an excuse by any means, it was the same situation for all teams, just some dealt with it better than others.

[#1-norm-fan]

According to the guy on RedZone, after the Giants Jets game, Brandon Jacobs said to Rex Ryan "Now it's time for you to shut up fat boy".

lol. What a dick.

[FearedSanctity]

Nah I'm inclined to agree

[#1-norm-fan]

You just don't pull the fat card is alls I'm sayin'.

[FearedSanctity]

Should have pulled the feet card

[Supreme Olajuwon]

in all fairness he is dangerously overweight and does need to shut the fuck up from time to time

[Droford]

The Bengals get the 6th wild card no matter what happens if they win, the Ravens would be the 5th Wild Card with a Steelers win or #2 seed still with a Steelers loss.

If Denver wins, Denver would win AFC WEST no matter what. Winner of SD/Oakland would win AFC WEST with a Denver loss.

[FearedSanctity]

Shocking

[FearedSanctity]

Editing your post so mine makes no sense :mad:

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Well someone on the Niners just died.

[Nark Order]

Kyle Williams may be injured after a blatantly illegal shot. Holy shit he got blasted.

[Nark Order]

Yes, a 15 yard penalty is more than sufficient for trying to murder Kyle Williams in cold blood.

[Nark Order]

LARRY GRANT LOVES THE SKITTLES TOO.

[#1-norm-fan]

Yes, a 15 yard penalty is more than sufficient for trying to murder Kyle Williams in cold blood.

... he wasn't down... and it's not 2 hand touch.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Actually when he is down, it IS two hand touch.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Well technically I guess you only need 1 hand, but players usually revert to their training and go with 2.

[#1-norm-fan]

Actually when he is down, it IS two hand touch.

I know. I'm commenting on the fact that it's a retarded rule. Because football... is not two hand touch.

[#1-norm-fan]

I think the penalty was helmet to helmet anyway.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

There's no need to spear a guy on his knees. That's not big tough manly football. That's a cheap shot.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I mean shit they have rules for how you hit a guy on his knees in fucking cage fighting.

[Kris P Lettus]

Did a commercial with Sean Payton two days ago.. The guy is a maniac perfectionist.. He stayed an hour longer than he was booked for cause he wasn't happy with his performance..

F'n love that guy..

p.s. That was a sick flip from that Bengals WR..

p.p.s. LOL Cowboys

[Evil Vito]

Giants/Cowboys officially moved to prime time. Blah.

[#1-norm-fan]

There's no need to spear a guy on his knees. That's not big tough manly football. That's a cheap shot.

And then if he gets up and runs for a touchdown because you slowed down so you could lightly touch his helmet...

They're trained to tackle. If a guy is down and the whistle has blown, it's one thing. In the middle of a play if a guy goes down untouched and gets back up to his knees, fuck slowing down.

[#1-norm-fan]

Giants/Cowboys officially moved to prime time. Blah.

Weird. Same game on SNF within 3 weeks of each other.

[#1-norm-fan]

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/catch_all/nfl_image/rex_brandon_111224_top.jpg

Okay, it IS funny that Rex Ryan was making a "fat guy" face when Brandon Jacobs said that to him.

Still hate Brandon Jacobs.

[#1-norm-fan]

The Giants' chest-thumping wasn't confined to the field or the locker room, as team spokesman Pat Hanlon took to Twitter after the game.

"On 2nd thought, to our neighbors, thanks for allowing us to visit 'your' house (wink, wink)," Hanlon wrote. "We appreciate the hospitality.'

Hanlon later added: "Again, to our hosts...sorry about the mess we left behind. We'll clean it up later. We have a big game in "your" house this week."

lol. I feel like this is leading up to a Jets run-in next week to cost the Giants the championship.

[Hanso Amore]

lol. I feel like this is leading up to a Jets run-in next week to cost the Giants the championship.

I feel Like Rex is going to come out and Drop the leg on the Giants opponent, and end up as the New Giants Coach.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I feel like Rex will be unable to do anything next week because of the diabetes he gets after Christmas dinner tomorrow.

[Hanso Amore]

I love the idea of Buddy, Rob and Rex celebrating Festivus. The Feats of Strength alone would be worth 40 dollars admission.

[#1-norm-fan]

I feel Like Rex is going to come out and Drop the leg on the Giants opponent, and end up as the New Giants Coach.

"AND TO ALL THOSE JETS FANS... YOU CAN STICK IT!"

[Emperor Smeat]

So are the Eagles definitely eliminated now, no matter what happens in their game?

They ended up pulling what Oakland did last year in having the best divisional record (4-1) but being horrible against everyone else (3-7) killed their playoff chance.

Assuming the Eagles win next week, they would also have the same record Oakland had last year as well.

[#1-norm-fan]

Didn't Oakland actually sweep the division last year?

[Droford]

Adrian Peterson tore his ACL.

Me thinks Minnesota will be drafting a RB, as I would not expect him to play very much if at all in 2012..

Thats not to say that he wont come back and be productive, hell..Jamal Lewis missed 2001 with a torn ACL, came back in 2002 and went for 1300 yards and then in 2003 ran for over 2000. That was his 2nd torn acl too, since had torn one in college back in 1998.

[FearedSanctity]

And MCL

[#1-norm-fan]

That has to feel shitty to likely lose a star player for NEXT year.

Like... it sucks enough to lose a player in the preseason but to go all off-season knowing your team is already in a huge whole with and injury? Fuck.

[FearedSanctity]

Dunno, just depends on AP. Demaryius Thomas tore his ACL in something like March or April this year, and had he not broken his pinky in practice he'd have played in the season opener. Ditto fro Ryan Clady who tore his in the offseason the year before and started the whole season. I think AP probably ends up on the PUP list and comes back after week 6, can't see him missing all of next season

[Emperor Smeat]

Didn't Oakland actually sweep the division last year?

Yes they did. The record was more of what the Eagles split was right now although Oakland's had a worse out of division considering they won just 2 games against everyone else.

[Hanso Amore]

Adrian Peterson tore his ACL.

Me thinks Minnesota will be drafting a RB, as I would not expect him to play very much if at all in 2012..

Thats not to say that he wont come back and be productive, hell..Jamal Lewis missed 2001 with a torn ACL, came back in 2002 and went for 1300 yards and then in 2003 ran for over 2000. That was his 2nd torn acl too, since had torn one in college back in 1998.

I think Minne banks on a Speedy Recovery, coupled with a steady dose of Toby Gearhart and a Free Agent.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The Detroit Lions are going to the playoffs.
The Detroit Lions are going to the playoffs.
The Detroit Lions are going to the playoffs.

No matter how many times I type that sentence, it feels weird.</font>

[#1-norm-fan]

If anyone is going to be "This year's Packers" I think it's going to be Detroit.

Powerhouse offense, a game against the winners of their division in week 17 with the chance to knock them out of the playoffs eventually as well. They CAN beat Green Bay the way both teams are playing right now. I wouldn't really be that surprised to see Detroit be the latest 5/6th seed to make it to the Super Bowl.

Also, there have been something like 11 different NFC teams in the Super Bowl in the last 11 years. Either Detroit, SF or Dallas going would make it 12 in 12.

[McLegend]

Why was Mark Sanchez throwing the ball 59 times? What was Rex Ryan doing?

[#1-norm-fan]

I don't know. It almost seemed like the need to say "Our QB outperformed your QB" was more important than winning the game. And in the end, neither was accomplished. Because Mark Sanchez is terrible.

[Kris P Lettus]

Pumped for the game tomorrow night.. Pretty sure the Saints will roll the Falcunts..

Saints have only lost like 2 primetime games in the Dome since Sean Payton became our coach in 2006..

[Nark Order]

Well I hope they lose. :) We will probably keep our bye either way but it would be nice to rest our starters against the Rams.

[Kris P Lettus]

Who do yall play next week??

[Kris P Lettus]

NFL playoff scenarios
By ESPN.com staff

AFC

CLINCHED: New England Patriots -- East Division and a first-round bye.

Houston Texans -- South Division.

Baltimore Ravens -- wild-card spot.

Pittsburgh Steelers -- wild-card spot.

NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

New England clinches home-field advantage throughout AFC playoffs:

1) NE win or tie

2) BAL loss or tie + PIT loss or tie

BALTIMORE RAVENS

Baltimore clinches AFC North Division and a first-round bye:

1) BAL win

2) BAL tie + PIT loss or tie

3) PIT loss

Baltimore clinches home-field advantage throughout AFC playoffs:

1) BAL win + NE loss

PITTSBURGH STEELERS

Pittsburgh clinches AFC North Division and a first-round bye:

1) PIT win + BAL loss or tie

2) PIT tie + BAL loss

Pittsburgh clinches home-field advantage throughout AFC playoffs:

1) PIT win + BAL loss or tie + NE loss

DENVER BRONCOS

Denver clinches AFC West Division:

1) DEN win

2) DEN tie + OAK loss or tie

3) OAK loss

OAKLAND RAIDERS

Oakland clinches AFC West Division:

1) OAK win + DEN loss or tie

2) OAK tie + DEN loss

Oakland clinches a wild-card spot:

1) OAK win + CIN loss + TEN loss or tie

2) OAK win + CIN loss + NYJ win

CINCINNATI BENGALS

Cincinnati clinches a wild card spot:

1) CIN win or tie

2) NYJ loss or tie + OAK loss or tie

3) NYJ loss or tie + DEN loss or tie

NEW YORK JETS

NY Jets clinch a wild card spot:

1) NYJ win + CIN loss + TEN loss or tie + OAK loss or tie

2) NYJ win + CIN loss + TEN loss or tie + DEN loss or tie

TENNESSEE TITANS

Tennessee clinches a wild-card spot:

1) TEN win + CIN loss + NYJ win + OAK loss or tie

2) TEN win + CIN loss + NYJ win + DEN loss or tie

3) TEN win + CIN loss + NYJ loss or tie + OAK win + DEN win

NFC

CLINCHED: Green Bay Packers -- North Division and first-round bye.

San Francisco 49ers -- West Division.

New Orleans Saints -- wild-card spot.

Detroit Lions -- wild-card spot.

GREEN BAY PACKERS

Green Bay clinches home-field advantage throughout NFC playoffs:

1) one GB win or tie

2) SF loss or tie

SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS

San Francisco clinches a first-round bye:

1) SF win

2) SF tie + one NO loss or tie

3) one NO loss

San Francisco clinches home-field advantage throughout NFC playoffs:

1) SF win + two GB losses

NEW ORLEANS SAINTS

New Orleans clinches NFC South Division:

1) one NO win or tie

2) one ATL loss or tie

New Orleans clinches a first-round bye:

1) two NO wins + SF loss or tie

2) one NO win + one NO tie + SF loss

NEW YORK GIANTS

NY Giants clinch NFC East Division:

1) NYG win or tie

DALLAS COWBOYS

Dallas clinches NFC East Division:

1) DAL win

ATLANTA FALCONS

Atlanta clinches NFC South Division:

1) two ATL wins + two NO losses

Atlanta clinches a wild-card spot:

1) one ATL win or tie

2) one CHI loss or tie

CHICAGO BEARS

Chicago clinches a wild-card spot:

1) two CHI wins + two ATL losses

[Emperor Smeat]

I thought Dallas couldn't clinch the NFC East since the Giants beat the Jets unless it was just for a wild card spot in general regardless if they won or lost to Philly?

[Nark Order]

Who do yall play next week??

Luckily, we play the Rams. Of course now that I've expressed joy, will will probably lose. Nothing is a lock after that Seattle game.

[Kris P Lettus]

Luckily, we play the Rams. Of course now that I've expressed joy, will will probably lose. Nothing is a lock after that Seattle game.

The Rams are the reason Saints fans want y'all to lose..

:(

[#1-norm-fan]

I thought Dallas couldn't clinch the NFC East since the Giants beat the Jets unless it was just for a wild card spot in general regardless if they won or lost to Philly?

The situation was Dallas COULD have clinched the division by beating Philly if the Giants had lost to the Jets since it would have given them a 2 game lead (7-8 Giants, 9-6 Cowboys) and the Giants wouldn't have been able to catch up by beating Dallas this week. Since the Giants won though, a win over Philly would have made them 9-6 to the Giants' 8-7 so the Giants would have been able to win the division this week regardless since both teams going 9-7 would get the Giants in on the head to head tiebreaker.

It was just confusing because of the situation. Usually when a team has nothing to play for in a game it means they're locked in or eliminated. Rarely does a team have "nothing to play for" in week 16 and then suddenly have a meaningful week 17 game.

[Crimson]

Got a feeling Cowboys will lay an egg somehow -_-

Romo has been money lately but when he has a nagging injury is when he makes alot of mistakes..we'll see

[Kris P Lettus]

Did they say anything about his hand today??

[#1-norm-fan]

Everything I've heard is that his hand is fine. Nothing serious.

And yeah, I think Romo will be fine. I get the feeling Dallas is going to lose though. Romo's having a career year but there's only so many times he can bail out that defense in a game.

[Kris P Lettus]

The Packers suck..

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Looks like Owen is going to win TPWW Fantasy Football this year. Congrats!

[#1-norm-fan]

lol

[owenbrown]

can't celebrate just yet unless Jimmy Graham has a bad game tomorrow night

[owenbrown]

because that's who my opponent has

[Kris P Lettus]

Jimmy Grahamreaper 123 yards 7 catches 2 TDs tomorrow night..

[Boomer]

The Falcons are in, thanks to a shitload of bad play and injuries from other wildcard teams. I'll take it.

Falcons have a fairly good chance of missing the Saints in the first round too, which I'm pleased about.

[#1-norm-fan]

It seems Kahlil Bell doesn't have a nose for the end zone.

[Kris P Lettus]

Looks like Owen is going to win TPWW Fantasy Football this year. Congrats!

The Falcons are in, thanks to a shitload of bad play and injuries from other wildcard teams. I'll take it.

Falcons have a fairly good chance of missing the Saints in the first round too, which I'm pleased about.

"Don't be scared, homie.."-Nick Diaz

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>If the Giants can win next week, I definitely hope the Falcons get the #5 seed. Both the Falcons and Lions have offensive weapons that can torch the Giants' secondary - but the Falcons have a more beatable defense. Giants/Falcons would likely be a shootout.</font>

[Boomer]

Honestly, I think the Lions have a more beatable defense. If you manage the Lions' defensive front, they aren't a particularly good unit. The Falcons DL is completely solid, and their LBs are fantastic. The Falcons are statistically better overall too, but I know that doesn't mean a ton. The Falcons just struggle against high-scoring passing offenses, and the Giants have only shown flashes of that this year. But the Falcons almost never blow anyone out, so your team always has a chance.

[screech]

Down by 83. My opponent had Nelson and Cruz, who combined for 124. Have Brees, White, Thomas & Graham tomorrow. Pretty sure I can pull it off, but I'm nervous.

[FearedSanctity]

Sir Lettus, I need you to help me feel I have a shot at winning my fantasy championship game given your Saints expertise and I'm assuming at least decent knowledge of the Falcons.

I currently sit down 9 points with my only remaining player being Matt Ryan, meanwhile my opponent has Colston and Julio Jones left. I'm obviously pretty boned, but any shot either team could shut down these two? Passing to Jones wouldn't hurt too much given that I have his QB. I know Ryan can always pass it to White and Gonzalez and Brees has several other options. Basically do I have any shot at Ryan putting up decent numbers while Colston and Jones get held to something minimal? Or are both teams secondaries at the level to where them having a decent game is unavoidable?

Please give me some hope :(

[screech]

Having a Saints receiver is a crap shoot. You never know which guy is gonna be "the guy" on which night. You could get lucky there.

Example: The few times I started Meachem, he had like 8-10pts if that. Last game of the regular season I sat him, he had 60. They can have big games, but it's different every week who pads the stats.

[MTH15]

We need to beat these mother fuckers mortal combat style Im talkin bout Drew Brees staggering in the pocket "FINISH HIM" BOWWWW William Moore kills em... I just have a deep hatred for the saints because they keep beating us and it wont stop...... til tonight ;)

[RP]

The Giants need to bring back


BALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLIIIN!

For sunday nights game

[#1-norm-fan]

Having a Saints receiver is a crap shoot. You never know which guy is gonna be "the guy" on which night. You could get lucky there.

Example: The few times I started Meachem, he had like 8-10pts if that. Last game of the regular season I sat him, he had 60. They can have big games, but it's different every week who pads the stats.

I've had Colston since like week 3 when someone dropped him apparently thinking his injury was more serious and I picked him up and started him two weeks later.

He hasn't been on fire every week but he's definitely consistent.

Of course, now that I say that, he'll suck tonight for me.

[#1-norm-fan]

The Giants win the division if the Dallas games ends in a tie. If Dallas can't win it, my ideal situation is for it to go to OT and the Giants just play ball control and run the clock looking like douchers so it ends in a tie instead of winning. Make it as anti-climatic as possible for those fuckers.

[Kris P Lettus]

As Screech said any Saints WR/RB is a gamble cause Brees spreads it out so much..

Roddy White will get most of the double coverage just because he is their biggest threat and because of the things he has said about NOLA in general.. Jones has been spotty all season.. Saints D has given up some big plays and will prolly give up 2-3 30+ yarders tonight as well.. They have that bend but don't break mentality..

Your best bet is Matt Ryan mainly cause of the few big plays.. Also, we've been shutting down the run ever since the Rams game.. Look for the Saints to get up early, and if they continue to shut down Turner, Ryan will have to air it out, to play catch up.. Just hope he goes to Roddy White and not Jones..

[Boomer]

Sir Lettus, I need you to help me feel I have a shot at winning my fantasy championship game given your Saints expertise and I'm assuming at least decent knowledge of the Falcons.

I currently sit down 9 points with my only remaining player being Matt Ryan, meanwhile my opponent has Colston and Julio Jones left. I'm obviously pretty boned, but any shot either team could shut down these two? Passing to Jones wouldn't hurt too much given that I have his QB. I know Ryan can always pass it to White and Gonzalez and Brees has several other options. Basically do I have any shot at Ryan putting up decent numbers while Colston and Jones get held to something minimal? Or are both teams secondaries at the level to where them having a decent game is unavoidable?

Please give me some hope :(

You have an ok chance. If the Saints score big early, the Falcons will have to play catch-up through the air. This is likely. I can tell you that the Falcons tend to try and beat the Saints with ball control, and it eventually stops working, so I would expect a decent fantasy game from Ryan. And any points Julio scores will be negated mostly by Ryan. It's certainly possible you could come back.

[Nark Order]

I've got love for Kris P but I need the Falcons to "whip dat ass." I'd rather we not have to play any of our starters against the Rams.

[Kris P Lettus]

Saints have not played this week, yet still lead the league in yards..

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total

[#1-norm-fan]

So after reading an article on NFL.com about lack of quality backup QBs citing Indy and Chicago as teams that failed based solely on losing their starter, I decided to do some math.

Teams that have lost their starting QB to injury at any point this season are 25-35 without them and 47-49 with them.

If you take out Indy, teams whose QBs have sat due to injury are 23-22 without them and 47-49 with them.

Interesting. Outside of Indy's debaucle, teams actually have a winning record with their starting QB injured and a losing record with him playing.

[Nark Order]

Speaking of Indy, where has Requiem been all season?

[Kris P Lettus]

oh snapple

[DaveBrawl]

I know in my league I somehow made the title game and am playing a guy with Brees, Colston and Curtis Lofton left whereas I have Darren Sproles and a 71 point lead. I'm a little worried since Brees threw down 85 last week with the scoring system we use and 59 the last time they played Atlanta. He's only scored under 50 one time since the middle of October. I had a 100 point lead before Jordy Nelson went off last night.

[Kris P Lettus]

Narc:

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/L74SsDTNNs4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[screech]

Need Brees & Graham to have a huge game.

Hoping for at least 10 from Pierre Thomas and at least 100/1 from Roddy White (unrealistic maybe, but I'm down big).

[FearedSanctity]

Thanks, dudes. This is for the title in my league with 11 other friends. I NEED these bragging rights after consistent 4th place finishes three years in a row.

[Kris P Lettus]

Speaking of Fantasy Football, I heard a thing on ESPN radio about these big money leagues, that are completely fraud.. Like a dude won last year, with a $1200 buy-in, and supposed to have won $300k.. He got nothing..

[#1-norm-fan]

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2009/09/05/sports/photos_stories/cropped/051_rex_ryan--300x300.jpg

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrp6x2c9gK1qln1bho4_250.gif

http://cache.heraldinteractive.com/blogs/sports/rap_sheet/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/large_rex-ryan-new-york-jets-818.jpg

[Supreme Olajuwon]

nice teeth though

[Kris P Lettus]

Blowing up Hienz Field..

http://cdn.wwtdd.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/dark_knight_rises_hines_ward.gif

[Aguakate]

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2009/09/05/sports/photos_stories/cropped/051_rex_ryan--300x300.jpg

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http://cache.heraldinteractive.com/blogs/sports/rap_sheet/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/large_rex-ryan-new-york-jets-818.jpg

Rex Ryan needs to shut up.

His act has gotten old, and it puts undue pressure on his team.

It's always like he's trying to overshadow the team, anyway.

[Kris P Lettus]

http://i.imgur.com/Hq1tm.jpg

[Emperor Smeat]

The local Comcast Sports Network had an interesting debate a few minutes ago regarding the Patriots options for Week 17.

The Patriots might decide their playoff route based on when they want to play Pitt or Baltimore. It also assumes both Houston and Pitt/Baltimore advance to the next round.

If they want Pitt/Baltimore early, then keep the #1 seed and probably play the other at New England for the potential AFC title game.

If they want Houston, then lose and let Bal/Pitt win to take the #1 seed. The Patriots would lose home field for the potential AFC title game but in return only have to worry about facing either Pitt or Baltimore and not both during the playoffs.

[ClockShot]

Watching the MNF game right now and noticed one of the Saints players on the o-line is wearing christmas color socks. Red on one leg, green on the other.

Wonder if Goodell is gonna make him pay for that?

[#1-norm-fan]

Watching the MNF game right now and noticed one of the Saints players on the o-line is wearing christmas color socks. Red on one leg, green on the other.

Wonder if Goodell is gonna make him pay for that?

He'll make him pay... with rape.

[#1-norm-fan]

C'moooooon shootout.

[Kris P Lettus]

Lance Moore is not an offensive lineman, FYI..

[Kris P Lettus]

Brees needs like 70 yards to break the record and its not even the half..

[FearedSanctity]

Fucking Colston :'(

[Kris P Lettus]

:heart: Colston

[MTH15]

Welp we went down there, and they put their foot in our ass nothin new :(

[Blakeamus]

31 yds to go!

[Kris P Lettus]

Welp we went down there, and they put their foot in our ass nothin new :(

LOL

[Kris P Lettus]

Call Det. Stabler, Atlanta's getting raped..

[FearedSanctity]

Alright, I'm getting close. I just need one more TD drive from Ryan. Also for Jones and Colston to not do shit. GET YOUR RECORD NEXT WEEK BREES

[FearedSanctity]

AND A GUEST APPEARANCE BY CHASE DANIEL

[owenbrown]

damn Brees just broke the record....amazing

[Corndad]

Happy for Brees.

[#1-norm-fan]

I just realized the irony of the NEW ORLEANS Saints QB being names Brees.

[FearedSanctity]

REDMAN? WHAT THE FUCK

[#1-norm-fan]

Chris Redman to lead the greatest comeback of all time right here.

[FearedSanctity]

PUT MATT RYAN'S BITCH ASS BACK IN

[Kris P Lettus]

Drew Beast

[owenbrown]

by 0.9 points I am the 2011 TPWW Fantasy Football champion

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Like I said I really don't think the record means a lot at this point, but he's in the record books so good for him. Brees is a likable guy.

Barring a Giants miracle run I'd love to see a Packers/Saints NFC Title game.</font>

[FearedSanctity]

By 60 points I am the 2011 TPWW Fantasy Football 9th place champion

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>First season in quite some time where I don't win a single fantasy league :( lost in the finals in 2 leagues</font>

[screech]

I am a Fantasy Football Champion!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

And by outscoring every team last week I picked up 10th place! Yeaaaaaaaaah!

[FearedSanctity]

I finish 2nd (1st in scoring), 4th (1st in scoring) and 9th (3rd in scoring) in mine.

WHAT THE FUCK? Second year in a row I finish first in scoring in two different leagues and don't win one

[Blakeamus]

<font color=goldenrod>Like I said I really don't think the record means a lot at this point, but he's in the record books so good for him. Brees is a likable guy.

Barring a Giants miracle run I'd love to see a Packers/Saints NFC Title game.</font>

If the record doesn't mean a lot at this point because of "the different eras", then keeping track of ALL TIME RECORDS in the NFL don't mean shit. If the last name was Brady or any ESPN poster childs, there would be no mention of the record being meaningless because of a record that was set 27 years ago.

[Kris P Lettus]

http://media.nola.com/tpphotos/photo/2011/12/10386959-standard.jpg

[FearedSanctity]

So glad he's out of the AFC BEST

[MTH15]

We are embarrassing..... see yall in a couple weeks :(

[Kris P Lettus]

So glad he's out of the AFC BEST

The fact that the pass that broke the record was to Sproles prolly made Norv Turner's anus explode..

[Kris P Lettus]

We are embarrassing..... see yall in a couple weeks :(

LOL

[FearedSanctity]

The fact that the pass that broke the record was to Sproles prolly made Norv Turner's anus explode..

Nah, doubt his feelings are hurt too much. Chargers are a factory for good short RBs lately (Turner, Sproles, Tolbert)

[screech]

Still worried for Sproles that he's going to take a huge hit & never play again. So small (by comparison) :(

[FearedSanctity]

He'll be alright. Denver LBs and DBs were knocking Sproles around for years. Little dude is tough

[screech]

My last five reps are from posts in this thread.

[FearedSanctity]

Pfft, 42 of the 50 reps on my sheet are from this thread

[Boomer]

Got so upset by the score that I stopped watching and missed the record. Oh well, I'm sure I'll see it plenty tomorrow.

Congrats to Brees.

[Emperor Smeat]

Brees is amazing and nice to see him finally get the record after trying the past couple of years. Even Brady has a chance to pass Marino (needs just 187 yards) but won't come close to Brees.

A bunch of records got broken this year and almost all involving QBs (Tebow comebacks, Newton rookie QB passing, Brady-BB wins combo, etc).

I think even Ross Ventrone on the Patriots might have broken the most transactions by a player in a season with 20 and counting (21 once he will gets resigned again). Belichick actually found a loophole regarding the 53-man rosters that allows him 54 players and figured it out due to the Jets doing something similar with Woodhead in a smaller scale.
1. Aug. 10 -- Released
2. Aug. 29 -- Signed to 90-man roster
3. Sept. 3 -- Released at final roster cutdown
4. Sept. 5 -- Signed to practice squad
5. Sept. 24 -- Signed to 53-man roster
6. Oct. 1 -- Released
7. Oct. 4 -- Signed to practice squad
8. Oct. 8 -- Signed to 53-man roster
9. Oct. 17 -- Released
10. Oct. 19 -- Signed to 53-man roster
11. Nov. 3 -- Released
12. Nov. 9 -- Signed to practice squad
13. Nov. 12 -- Signed to 53-man roster
14. Nov. 15 -- Released
15. Nov. 17 -- Signed to practice squad
16. Nov. 21 -- Signed to 53-man roster
17. Nov. 23 -- Released
18. Nov. 24 -- Signed to practice squad
19. Dec. 17 -- Signed to 53-man roster
20. Dec. 26 -- Released

[RP]

I can't believe Belichek has time to find stupid shit like that.

[FearedSanctity]

Don't think it was NE or the Jets that did that originally. Remember reading on PFT about some other team doing it a few years ago but can't remember who it was. It's how I knew after reading about Ventrone being released and re-signed the first couple times that BB was us the 54 man roster trick on him

[FearedSanctity]

Saints, Bucs complete 54-man roster trick
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on September 30, 2009, 2:55 PM EST

When posting on Tuesday a brief blurb pointing out that the Saints had placed tackle Jammal Brown on injured reserve and also had signed offensive lineman Nick Leckey, I thought to myself, “That name sounds more familiar than it should.”

So, as I do in most cases when resolving a nagging question might actually require effort on my part, I ignored it.

But when I received today the e-mail notice from the Buccaneers that linebacker Matt McCoy has been re-signed, I remembered why Leckey’s name stood out from the crowd of bottom-of-the-roster slapolas who are trying their damnedest (and we respect for that, despite calling them slapolas, slappies, or slapdicks) to stick on an NFL team.

Leckey was cut on Saturday to create a spot for quarterback Chase Daniel, just like McCoy was cut on Saturday to create a spot for receiver Mario Urrutia.

It’s the 54-man roster trick — a device for creating an extra roster spot by cutting late in a given week a vested veteran whom the team trusts to not sign with another team. By cutting the veteran on Saturday, the player misses no practice time (other than a walk-through) and loses no money. Then, the following week, the vested veteran is re-signed.

Typically, the player who was called up to fill a specific roster need is then cut again, just as the Bucs did with Urrutia. In New Orleans, however, the Saints have not yet been required to cut Daniel, since Brown has been placed on injured reserve.

Technically, the move violates no league rules — as long as the teams don’t tell the players who are cut that there will be a spot for them the following week and/or as long as the teams don’t seek assurances from the players (or their agents) that they won’t sign with other teams.

Surely, the Saints didn’t cut Leckey and the Bucs didn’t cut McCoy without explaining what would happen this week. Even more surely, neither team set those players loose without feeling pretty darn confident that they would re-sign this week.

And they have.

Here’s the caveat. After next month’s trading deadline, vested veterans must pass through waivers, so if a team tries the 54-man roster trick, there’s a risk that no amount of winking and/or nodding will ensure that the player who is cut on Saturday will still be available on Tuesday.

[Kris P Lettus]

They can't just move him from the active.roster to the practice.squad which is why thy.have to release and resign him..

[Kris P Lettus]

Saints have.been doing this also..

[Emperor Smeat]

Not surprised other teams do it or have done it earlier although I believe Belichek didn't start to actively use the 54-man trick until he noticed the Jets doing the same with Woodhead.

Problem with the Jets was they were dumb enough to use it on a decent player and it backfired on them. Nobody wants Ventrone but a lot of it is due to him making about $350k this season as sort of a "gift" and BB making sure he gets placed back on the roster for paycheck day so he doesn't lose out on any money.

[Droford]

The Bengals are in position to earn a second playoff berth in three seasons with a win Sunday against Baltimore at Paul Brown Stadium.
It would be hard to tell that by the all of the empty seats at PBS this season.
The announced crowd for Saturday’s 23-16 win against Arizona was 41,273. That total represents the number of tickets distributed and not necessarily the number of people in attendance. It’s the third time this season the announced crowd has been less than 42,000, with the crowd of 41,142 for the Buffalo game on Oct. 2 being the smallest crowd in PBS regular-season history.
In an attempt to make sure the same thing doesn’t happen for the regular-season finale against Baltimore, players turned into salesmen after Saturday’s game and the team announced that it is offering a two-for-one ticket purchasing deal for season-ticket holders.
“I just want to thank the fans who were out there today,” said defensive tackle Domata Peko. “We really felt you guys out there, and that helped us out big time. I really want to encourage all of the Cincinnati fans to come out and cheer us on as we try to make the playoffs.”
Beginning Monday, season-ticket holders may call the ticket office at (513) 621-8383 with their account information to take advantage of the offer and purchase tickets.
A win against Baltimore would clinch the sixth and final playoff spot in the AFC for the Bengals (9-6). The Ravens (11-4) need a win or a loss by Pittsburgh against Cleveland to clinch the AFC North division title.
Cornerback Adam Jones was in full campaign mode Saturday.
“I’m just happy for the team and the city of Cincinnati,” said Jones. “The fans did a great job getting behind us, and we need all of you this week.”
The Bengals' streak of 57 sellouts, stretching back to 2003, ended last year. They have had just one sellout – against Pittsburgh – in their last 11 home games. That has meant no local television broadcast for those 10 games.
Through the first seven home games this season, the Bengals have drawn 330,570 to PBS, or 72 percent of the stadium’s capacity. PBS seats 65,515.
The Baltimore game has been moved from its original 1 p.m. kickoff time to 4:15 p.m. Under NFL blackout rules, teams have to sell out games 72 hours in advance of kickoff in order for them to be shown in markets within a 75-mile radius. For the Bengals that includes Cincinnati, Dayton and Lexington. Extensions of 24 hours have been granted in the past, but the Bengals are hoping that won’t be necessary.They're #32 in attendance, only team averaging in the 40,000's. Im guessing this is showing the downside of the blackout rule, in that if you can't watch the games, then it is hard to get additional interest for people to go to the games. At least that even if they made the playoffs they wouldnt have to worry about the embarassment that would be not being able to sell out a playoff game.

I might go to the Ravens game there next year.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Why would they have to worry about selling out a playoff game? They would be the wildcard team wouldn't they? They wouldn't be playing in Cinci.

Though I don't think they would need to worry about that anyways. Even if they did host a playoff game people would do what you plan to do next year: buy a ticket as a fan of the opposing team.

[Droford]

Why would they have to worry about selling out a playoff game? They would be the wildcard team wouldn't they? They wouldn't be playing in Cinci.

Though I don't think they would need to worry about that anyways. Even if they did host a playoff game people would do what you plan to do next year: buy a ticket as a fan of the opposing team.

I said they wouldnt have to worry about it because theres no way as the #6 seed that they would have a home playoff game. Sort of like how the Ravens never have any hope for a home playoff game winning the wild card every year.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

You going to try to score home tickets for the playoffs if they maintain the tiebreaker or get a game lead?

[Ermaximus]

31 players on IR. At least the season is almost over.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The Giants only have 2 quarterbacks on their active roster - however Coughlin generally keeps a 3rd on the practice squad. In this case it's Ryan Perriloux, who has been cut and re-signed to the practice squad about 10 separate times this season.</font>

[Ermaximus]

Sounds like Todd Bouman with the Jags.

[FearedSanctity]

Aahaha, fucking Perilloux. I remember all the rage around here when he backed off his commit to Texas. If only they knew he'd turn out to be a huge waste of talent

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>He actually looked pretty good during the pre-season, some even thought Coughlin might go ahead and have 3 QBs on the active roster this year. Wouldn't be opposed to him coming back next year although Coughlin is partial to having the backup QB be a veteran.</font>

[Nark Order]

Thanks, Saints. You assholes. Now we have to dish out an ass whipping of likes which has never been seen to the Rams and we don't get to rest.

[Kris P Lettus]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/16612455/brees-recordbreaking-night-tainted-by-decision-to-go-for-it-late

Falcons players are crying like little bitches about "running up the score" at the end of the game.. You get paid to play defense, this is not high school football.. All the Falcons players before the game were like "we don't care if he breaks the record, as long as we win", fuck that.. Keeping Brees under 300 should have been a huge motivating factor for their D..

Stop fucking crying and play some defense, and this wouldn't have happened..

Why would he not want to break it last night?? At home, against a division rival, on national tv??

Thanks, Saints. You assholes. Now we have to dish out an ass whipping of likes which has never been seen to the Rams and we don't get to rest.

The 9er's game is at noon next week, where the Saints game is at 3.. If the 9ers win, Brees doesn't even need to suit up.. Why would he want to come up a handful of yards short, like he did in '08??

Fucking crybaby faggots..

p.s. "No need for that," one player said. "It came on our watch, but it didn't have to come that way. We won't forget it.".. Like Herm Edwards says, "put your name on it".. Pussies..

[Kris P Lettus]

http://media.nola.com/tpphotos/photo/2011/12/10387953-standard.jpg

http://media.nola.com/tpphotos/photo/2011/12/10387675-standard.jpg

http://media.nola.com/tpphotos/photo/2011/12/10387262-standard.jpg

[Droford]

Perhaps Pacman Jones and the other Cincinnati Bengals (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/cin/) players are better salesmen (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Bengals-players-beg-for-fan-support.html) than we gave them credit for.
According to the Cincinnati Enquirer, (http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20111226/SPT02/312260045/Ticket-push-full-swing?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CBengals) Bengals fans were lined up outside of Paul Brown Stadium on Monday waiting to buy tickets for the regular-season finale against the Baltimore Ravens (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/bal/). The Bengals (9-6) are in a win-and-in situation for an AFC wild-card spot, but played Saturday against Arizona to a crowd of just over 40,000 fans.

Approximately 2,000 tickets were sold in the first couple of hours using a "buy one, get one free" offer for Bengals season ticketholders. And while the minor league baseball-type promotion has moved the needle on ticket sales for a team desperate for a home-field advantage Sunday, it has raised some eyebrows around the NFL. For each free ticket given out, the Bengals have to absorb 34 percent of its cost and reimburse the league for the visiting team's share of the gate.


lol

[Kris P Lettus]

9er's release Braylon Edwards..

http://www.braylonedwards.com/media/statement-to-fans/

I was released today by the 49ers due to my injury that required more time to rehab and hasn’t allowed me to re-sync with the offense. I wish the 49ers organization the best of luck during the Playoffs. I will be working hard this off season to strengthen my knee and prepare for the 2012 season. Thanks for your continued support and for being such loyal fans.

[Nark Order]

You may have also been released because you have "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter" where your hands are supposed to be as well, Braylon. You shithead.

[Kris P Lettus]

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EJq1hdPk74Y" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Hanso Amore]

Drew Brees to Darren Sproles for the record....

ANd the Chargers are sitting home and about to fire their coach.


I find it funny that they draft manning and trade him away (I know it wasnt their choice).

Then They Let Brees walk and go with Rivers.

Both Are Super Bowl winning QBs now. And the Chargers are perennial playoff underachievers.

Lots of ammo for angry Chargers fans.

[Blakeamus]

"None of us will forget what we saw Monday night. We saw greatness. We saw one of our generation's special quarterbacks take down a record that has lasted 27 years. This much I know: This new mark won't last another 27.

Heck, it might not even last a week. New England's Tom Brady is just 190 yards behind Brees heading into the final week.

For now, the kid got his wish.

It's just too bad it happened the way it did."

:roll:

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Blakeamus, I feel like you care way too much about what sports writers think about your favorite football team.

It's how you feel that should matter.

[Ermaximus]

Supreme, I am heavily rooting for the Ginger kid to pull the upset and get into the playoffs his rookie year.

[Kris P Lettus]

Thought the Bengals were already in..

[Blakeamus]

Blakeamus, I feel like you care way too much about what sports writers think about your favorite football team.

It's how you feel that should matter.

Thank you Supreme.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Thought the Bengals were already in..

nah it's a win and they're in game

but they have the best record of all the teams fighting for the #6 seed so technically they could lose and still get in

[Kris P Lettus]

Maybe we'll have the "Who Dat??" vs. "Who Dey??" Super Bowl we've been talking about for like 8 years..

[Reavant]

The 9er's game is at noon next week, where the Saints game is at 3.. If the 9ers win, Brees doesn't even need to suit up.. Why would he want to come up a handful of yards short, like he did in '08??



lol watch that happen and brady pass him on the record lmao

[Kris P Lettus]

Well, I found out that they were only gonna move the Saints/Panthers game to 3pm if the Falcons had won last night..

So, I guess Brees will start with the chance the the 9er's will lose to the Rams.. Part of me is happy cause he will torch Car's secondary, but the other part of me (thinking the 9ers will win) wants him fresh for the playoff run..

[Nark Order]

I'm not sure if the Rams even WANT to win that game, tbh. If they lose and the Colts win (which might be likely vs Jax), it is Luck Town USA for the Rams.

[Innovator]

I wonder if the Rams would abandon the Bradford Experience that quickly.

[Hanso Amore]

I dont think they would. I think they would trade that pick for a goddamn Kings Ransom.

[Nark Order]

I'm not sure, but it seems like they'd be dumb not to get something out of that pick regardless. Trade Island.

[Hanso Amore]

As "touted" as Luck is, he is hardly a sure thing, no QB is.

It would be stupid to bail on a solid young QB when you could literally trade to a team like Washington for 2-3 First Round Picks.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Can you imagine what the Redskins would be willing to part with for the #1 pick? It'd be a fucking madhouse.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

JINX

[Hanso Amore]

As much as I wish the Bills could land Luck, I kind of hate him. The Whole Sweepstakes and pure, unadulterated Fellatio fest that has been the last two years is fucking annoying. The guy is not a God, and he hasnt even played in the NFL.

He is too much Hype.

[Hanso Amore]

Are you inside my head?

[RoXer]

What do they have?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Luck himself seems like a pretty good egg so it's hard to really hate him.

[Hanso Amore]

Its not so much him, but everyone in the Media/Fans. Like Its not his fault I cant spend 5 minutes without hearing his name.

I kind of hope he bombs to be honest, to shut the Merrill Hodges of the world up.

[RoXer]

yeah it would have to be straight picks because I can't name one Redskins player off the top of my head

[RoXer]

Orakpo

another word for sack

[Hanso Amore]

Yeah, Im thinking it would be a Ricky Williams type deal.

Couple FIrsts, couple Seconds, add a 3rd and 4th next year

[Supreme Olajuwon]

yeah I guess their LBs are alright but not much else

[Nark Order]

Fuck competition. I'll be hoping that the Saints get upset in the first round by either the Falcons or the Lions so we have the easier road.

If that somehow happens and we win then we get to walk into the frozen tundra of doom to face the Pack.

[Nark Order]

Sure would be sweet to see the Giants, Falcons, or Lions beat the Pack on the road though.

[Requiem]

Speaking of Indy, where has Requiem been all season?

Phoned it in a long time ago. Going to be pissed if Colts win and Rams lose next week. They'd better just throw this game honestly. There is no point in winning at all. We won 2 in a row already, didn't go winless, now give it a rest and just draft Luck. Keep both QBs the next 1-2 years and try to get Peyton a 2nd ring. Then build for the next era. Luck could be a franchise QB for the next 15 years if he's got what it takes.

Wayne possibly gone soon. Media (and him) were talking about how last week's game might have been his last at Lucas Oil.

Figure Jeff Saturday will be gone when Manning leaves. Dallas Clark getting up there. Gonna be losing some veterans, so the window for a super bowl is closing and then it's gonna be rebuilding for the next few years while they get a team built for Luck.

[Nark Order]

The only problem is that it's going to be very difficult to throw that particular game in secrecy. Jacksonville is a very winnable matchup for the Colts and it's going to be blatantly obvious if they just stop playing.

[Requiem]

Should have just started resting starters a week ago after they got the first win. Play it, don't go winless, boom.. rest starters as there is clearly no point in risking them for next season.

Dunno.

[Requiem]

Season has felt nonexistent. It's one thing to lose when your whole team is out there trying. But without Peyton, it hardly even felt like a football season. Once it was clear he was gone for the season, I just stopped caring as I was 100% certain they wouldn't make the playoffs. Watched every week.. did my fantasy team, and just started waiting for next season.

[Nark Order]

Feel like Colts fans needed a swift kick in the nuts for a season or two. All for the better.

[Nark Order]

Narcisusususus's feelings on the Colts needing to be kicked in the nuts.

[Hanso Amore]

Season has felt nonexistent. It's one thing to lose when your whole team is out there trying. But without Peyton, it hardly even felt like a football season. Once it was clear he was gone for the season, I just stopped caring as I was 100% certain they wouldn't make the playoffs. Watched every week.. did my fantasy team, and just started waiting for next season.

Non existent, much like your fandom all of your life until the last 2-3 years.

[screech]

boom

[RoXer]

Draft Luck now and start looking for young studs at offensive line while improving your D is what the Colts should be doing.

[Requiem]

Non existent, much like your fandom all of your life until the last 2-3 years.

It must shock all of your senses to see me still here talking about the Colts then after such a terrible season.

[RoXer]

Draft Luck now and start looking for young studs at offensive line while improving your D is what the Colts should be doing.
That's stupid. It's what every team should be doing, duh.

Good QB
Good OLline
Good D
Good WR/RB

and then win a super bowl

[RoXer]

it's just that easy

dunno why more teams don't just do that

[Ermaximus]

Because they're either cheap or the management is stupid. See Smith, Gene.

[Emperor Smeat]

I could see the Rams drafting Luck if they get the #1 spot should Bradford have problems with his recovery or it ends up revealing he's too injury prone. The Rams took the risk when the drafted him considering he was already hurt and missed out on the entire 2009 OU season.

Money-wise, Luck might be a lot cheaper to invest considering the new CBA lowered the rookie wage scale for draft picks.


That's stupid. It's what every team should be doing, duh.

Good QB
Good OLline
Good D
Good WR/RB

and then win a super bowl
You don't really need a good QB to win a Superbowl, just someone that isn't similar to Rex Grossman. Trent Dilfer (and Brad Johnson) has been used as the case against this for years although you do need an excellent defense if the QB isn't "elite."

[Kris P Lettus]

Tbh the Bucs won cause Gruden had the Raiders playbook..

But good running game, good d, and an efficient qb has worked for SF this year..

[#1-norm-fan]

The Rams can't draft Luck. Come on. With all the problems with that team, they just drafted a QB 2 years ago who had a good rookie season and came 1 game from leafing them to the playoffs. There's no way they don't trade that pick away if they get it.

[FearedSanctity]

CHAMP, VON AND DOOM PRO BOWL BOUND :love:

McGahee, Clady and Dawkins are first alternates

Tebow, Prater and Colquitt are second alternates

[Nark Order]

Eight 49ers to the pro bowl. Sweet mother of fuck.

[Droford]

7 Ravens..shame they wont get to go

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Glad to see JPP and Eli made it in. Cruz definitely deserves a spot over Greg Jennings, but he got fucked over by the nomination ballot being due so early in the season.</font>

[Kris P Lettus]

Malcom Jenkins and Jabari Greer got robbed..

[Innovator]

Everyone down with JPP?

[Kris P Lettus]

He is a beast..

[#1-norm-fan]

How the holy fuck does Eli make it in over Romo???

[Triple Naitch]

Really?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Dunno feel like Eli, Romo, and Killa Cam all had pretty good cases to be made. Can't really fault one getting picked over the others.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Stafford too, fuck.

[FearedSanctity]

Tebow is two dropouts away from being a Pro Bowler. Suck on that, world. Good chance this happens since Rapistberger and Brady are the top 2. Ben is bound to be crippled by then and Brady never goes does he? Also, how is Rivers over Dalton?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

How is Tebow over Dalton

[#1-norm-fan]

Dunno feel like Eli, Romo, and Killa Cam all had pretty good cases to be made. Can't really fault one getting picked over the others.

Eli over Romo though...

Romo completed 5.1% more of his passes than Eli and threw 3 more TDs and 7 fewer interceptions. None of this says Eli over Romo.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Lol Faux Noise and Sports is pissed at Bill Maher's Tebow tweet on Christmas Eve. :D

[FearedSanctity]

How is Tebow over Dalton

He's not.

1. Brady
2. Roethlisberger
3. Rivers
A1. Dalton
A2. Tebow

[#1-norm-fan]

Fuck, I might actually have put Cam Newton over Eli. He turned the ball over as many times as Eli. He threw for 6 fewer TDs but made up for that with 14 rushing TDs...

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

How is John Kuhn on the list?

[#1-norm-fan]

And if Romo's numbers being so painfully clearly better than Eli's isn't enough, he did most of that while making Laurent fucking Robinson look like a superstar.

[DaveBrawl]

Lol Faux Noise and Sports is pissed at Bill Maher's Tebow tweet on Christmas Eve. :D

Classic case of idiots upset by idiots.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

He's not.

1. Brady
2. Roethlisberger
3. Rivers
A1. Dalton
A2. Tebow

Damn what a shitty year for QBs in the AFC

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Classic case of idiots upset by idiots.

Bill Maher is no idiot.

[Kris P Lettus]

The Tebow Page (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/page/Tim-Tebow-Denver-Broncos-Tebowing-Event-Page-121411)

[DaveBrawl]

Bill Maher is no idiot.

Would you prefer "classic case of arrogant wastes of oxygen upset by arrogant wastes of oxygen"?

[#1-norm-fan]

Wait, Rivers made it in? lol. He had a really shitty season. It really was a bad year for AFC QBs.

[FearedSanctity]

Yeah I was looking at the AFC determined to find a more worthy QB than Rivers but there ain't shit. I'd argue Dalton deserves it more, but after that? Palmer? Moore?

And before you say it, no, Droford

[Supreme Olajuwon]

what about joe flacco

[#1-norm-fan]

Blaine Gabbert was probably like 7th in the AFC QB pro bowl voting. lol

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I dunno. That would make Joe Flacco 8th.

And there is no way that Joe Flacco is good enough to be the 8th best quarterback in the AFC.

[FearedSanctity]

But Joe Flacco is such a good QB at home

[screech]

But he's good enough to be slightly worse than Blaine Gabbert.

[FearedSanctity]

How can Dalton make it over Flacco? In Flacco's rookie year he had better stats* and blah blah set some stupid irrelevant records something something playoff wins but no Super Bowl


*Like Droford, I didn't actually research this

[Hanso Amore]

JOE FLACCO HAS WON MORE GAMES NORTH OF THE MASON DIXON LINE THE LAST THREE YEARS THAN ANYONE ELSE

[FearedSanctity]

HE MAY HAVE NO RINGS, BUT HE HAS 58764 PLAYOFF WINS

[DrA]

The Problem of Induction has always been a difficult thing for sports fans to understand.