NFL 2011 Season Thread

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Funniest part is that he left the Jets for the Giants this year "because I want to win the Super Bowl" and everybody laughed at him.</font>

[Nark Order]

All I can look forward to now is the 9ers getting a worthy wideout in the draft. Also, The Browns are looking like they just may draft RG3. I don't know if I agree with giving up on Colt so quickly but I'm torn a bit.

[D Mac]

And the Super Bowl gets a big "Who gives a fuck" for me. :|

[D Mac]

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"Mother fucking Super Bowl."

[McLegend]

Every championship in any sport gets a big "who gives a fuck" from you.

Every time

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Some people just like raining on people's parade. Gritty win by both teams tonight. It is sure to be a crazy two weeks of build up. Good luck Giants but remember revenge is a dish best served cold and it will be very cold in Indy.*

*except in Lucas Oil Stadium.

Anyways....Khannnnnnnnnnnn!

[D Mac]

Snooze Bowl XLVI

[RP]

Can't wait for the Colts to hire Tressel. The Sweater Vest v The Hoodie

[James Steele]

Rumors swirling Tampa Bay is trying to sign Oregon Head Coach Chip Kelly. It makes no sense as he has no NFL experience and his system isn't really made for the NFL.

[Innovator]

"It finally feels like I have a home." - Steve Weatherford

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Bill Simmons mentioned on his podcast last week that he and every Pats fan he's spoken to were openly rooting for the Giants yesterday...to the point where they would be disappointed if they had to play the Niners and were denied a shot at revenge. The revenge factor does worry me a bit...an extra motivated Brady and Belichick is never a good thing.

Patriots are going to be installed as the favorites, probably like 3 points or so. It's kinda funny to me that they're the favorites seeing as they already lost to a depleted Giants team and the offense just hasn't been the same against good teams. I'm also still not totally sold on their defense. They did look better yesterday, but they still basically allowed JOE FLACCO to have a game-winning drive if Lee Evans wasn't a stupid piece of shit.

Gonna be a great game.</font>

[Innovator]

No Vito, Giants will get destroyed. Droford said so.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Dunno why people are getting on Lee Evans' case. Sterling Moore perfectly smacked the ball out of his hands. Was a great defensive play.

[Destor]

Bill Simmons mentioned on his podcast last week that he and every Pats fan he's spoken to were openly rooting for the Giants yesterday...to the point where they would be disappointed if they had to play the Niners and were denied a shot at revenge. The revenge factor does worry me a bit...an extra motivated Brady and Belichick is never a good thing.

Patriots are going to be installed as the favorites, probably like 3 points or so. It's kinda funny to me that they're the favorites seeing as they already lost to a depleted Giants team and the offense just hasn't been the same against good teams. I'm also still not totally sold on their defense. They did look better yesterday, but they still basically allowed JOE FLACCO to have a game-winning drive if Lee Evans wasn't a stupid piece of shit.

Gonna be a great game.just fyi, the giants are the favorites by 3 points

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>It was a great defensive play but you just have to hold on to that ball for dear life. Some Ravens fans are claiming that Evans took 2 steps with the ball so it should have been ruled a TD anyway. Could you imagine if they called that? Would have been a riot at Gillette.</font>

[CSL]

I was about to ask, what constitutes a TD when it comes to a play like that? Because I was looking at his feet during the replays and I thought I saw 2 steps but just figured maybe that's not the rule on scoring plays

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'm sure Mike Fatcessa will spend 2 weeks talking about how the Super Bowl losing team always regresses the next year and pointing out that the Giants have a brutal schedule next year.

The Giants were actually installed as the favorites? Fuck.</font>

[CSL]

just looked again actually, borderline when it comes to the 2nd step and Sterling Moore knocking the ball loose, seems pretty simultaneous

[Destor]

just so i have it in writing: the green bay packers are going to be completely fucked next year. this year they skated by only facing 4 teams with winning records thanks to the year priors average record (super bowl win or not they were a wild card team.) this coming year being 15-1 there scheadule will be that of a non-pee wee football team and the will be embarassed.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'm not sure on the exact ruling, but I do think the league probably should have gone into a replay review for it. I don't think it was conclusive enough to overturn but a play of that magnitude should have at least warranted a second look.

NFL has already come out defending the officials for not doing a video review. Kinda pathetic that the NFL has to publicly defend the refs every single week.</font>

[Destor]

also fuck greenbay

[screech]

<font color=goldenrod>I'm not sure on the exact ruling, but I do think the league probably should have gone into a replay review for it. I don't think it was conclusive enough to overturn but a play of that magnitude should have at least warranted a second look.

NFL has already come out defending the officials for not doing a video review. Kinda pathetic that the NFL has to publicly defend the refs every single week.</font>

It was a bang bang play (great job by Moore), but I was hoping for a review on it. Like you said it probably wouldn't have been overturned, but it was possible :'(

[Gonzo]

I didn't go back and look at any replays but in real time I would say that it's not a catch. Maybe it was closer than it looked but I wasn't really parked in front of the TV at the time.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I would think the rules are the same as out of bounds plays where even if you get both feet in, you still have to complete the catch.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The Bengals lost to the Ravens earlier this year because of a similar call. Jermaine Gresham caught a ball, got both feet down in the endzone but then lost the ball when he fell to the ground. The refs said he didn't complete the catch so it was an incompletion.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'm reading that the Patriots are actually the 3 point favorites to start. Good. Keep it that way.</font> :cool:

[Gonzo]

I would think the rules are the same as out of bounds plays where even if you get both feet in, you still have to complete the catch.

Yeah that was my logic. I guess if people wanted to split hairs they could have reviewed it closer but I think they got the call right.

[Gonzo]

<font color=goldenrod>I'm reading that the Patriots are actually the 3 point favorites to start. Good. Keep it that way.</font> :cool:

I can easily see that dropping to 1.5 or something.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wouldn't surprise me. But as long as they're still listed as underdogs going in it's a good thing. It's no secret that they use the underdog role as motivation.</font>

[Nark Order]

I know it isn't fair to solely blame Kyle Williams but I can't help wanting to punch him square in the jaw this morning.

[Nark Order]

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[Requiem]

^LOL

[Nark Order]

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Grumpy_Dr_Doom (https://twitter.com/Grumpy_Dr_Doom) VictorVonDoom

BAH!San Francisco 49er kick returner Kyle Williams attempted to shoot himself after today's game but he dropped his gun <s class="hash">#</s>Cundiffsaysthanks (https://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Cundiffsaysthanks)
13 hours ago (https://twitter.com/#%21/Grumpy_Dr_Doom/status/161290843855134720)

:(

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>"Myra Kraft pushed that field goal wide left! Pats are destined to win!"

lol dear god</font>

[Kris P Lettus]

This will be a good game with a nice storyline leading in..

Hotty Toddy!!

[Nark Order]

A comment some guy made on Kyle Williams signing with the 9ers over 1 year ago:

"Get ready to have your hearts in your throat whenever Williams is on the field, Niner fans. This dude is so unpredictable and takes crazy chances with the ball. He lacks concentration and drops and fumbles more passes and punt returns in important situations than anyone I've ever seen. In fact his very last play of his ASU career was a fumbled punt return in the biggest game of the year vs our rival Univ of AZ. The score was tied just a minute or so on the clock. U of A was punting. Everyone's thinking o.t.. All he had to do was catch the ball and take a knee or run it a few yards. But no, he wanted to be a hero and already had his mind running up the field before he even caught the ball. It went right through his hands, bounced off his leg and U of A recovered it. They went on to score a FG. Game & season over! Fans left stunned! Williams is very inconsistent. It doesn't matter if he runs a 4 flat you got to have the ball in your hands first! He can go from hero to zero in 4.3 too."

[Supreme Olajuwon]

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[Team Sheep]

Going to be a great Super Bowl, can't wait. Going to have some goosebumps and major nostalgia watching Patriots vs Giants again. My favourite Super Bowl memory since being a fan of the NFL (I'd only been watching for 2 years prior to that).

[Innovator]

Giants will be in the road white for the game.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: ESPN earlier had a discussion of who gets to use Peyton Manning's locker with Brady and Eli both being a bit of an embarrassment to Peyton. Eli already has a better playoff record and potentially could pass his brother in rings which could really make everyone rethink of Peyton as the best QB.

On the other hand, his biggest rival would be using his locker and would be a big deal if the Patriots were to win in their house. Should the Pats win, Brady would automatically become the new Montana and enough to tip the debates to Brady's side on who is better (5 SB appearances in 10 years, better playoff record than Manning, more rings).

Brady gets the locker due to the host being an AFC team.

[Team Sheep]

'UnSuper Bowl' doesn't sit well with Ravens LB Ayanbadejo:

"Truth being told I am not sure I'm going to watch the unSuper Bowl since the two best teams are sitting at home #ravens #49ers,"

Droford in disguise.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol what a crybaby bitch. would be hilarious if he got fined.</font>

[Innovator]

WINNERS GET TO DO WHAT THEY WANT

[Triple Naitch]

Seriously, this is going to be a great Super Bowl. Dunno how some people think it's a snooze.

[DaveBrawl]

I'm gonna say it's because of Madonna.

[Triple Naitch]

I'd rather have Nickelback.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Ravens hating aside, Terrell Suggs is wonderful:


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[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yay!! @ 3 Bengals taking the spots of 3 Patriots on the Pro Bowl roster.

Andy Dalton, Jermaine Gresham, and Geno Atkins, I like you all very much.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Cam Newton takes Eli's place. Poor Stafford.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'd say the top story to look out for in either team's practice this week is what happens with Rob Gronkowski. He's obviously going to play...but when he re-entered the game yesterday after his injury he wasn't targeted once and he did little more than serve as a decoy. If he can be banged up enough to NOT be a mandatory double-team guy, that could be huge.

Can't help but find myself hoping that the Ellerbe curse has struck again.</font> :o

[DaveBrawl]

I'd rather have Nickelback.

I'd rather have almost anyone.

[Droford]

Seriously, this is going to be a great Super Bowl. Dunno how some people think it's a snooze.
Im gonna go ahead and make a prediction. I already said the Giants would be destroyed, but Im going to quantify the score right here:

Patriots 42 Giants 17

It'll be over before halftime

Also, all he Ravens need is a 3rd WR that doesnt suck, see Lee Evans and TJ Houshmanhoweverthefuckhisnameisspelled

[Gonzo]

I would be shocked if the score was anything close to that.

[Nark Order]

The Giants have a much better defense than the Pats currently have. I say it's probably going to be pretty close.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I think the Giants have the more balanced team. My main reason to be worried about the Patriots really just has to do with the fact that beating Brady and Belichick in the Super Bowl for the second time in such a short time frame just feels like something that's too good to be true irregardless of who's on the field. There is definitely a mystique about those guys and the fact that the burden of revenge is on them only makes it more troublesome. The Patriots are the only team in the AFC that would plant that doubt in my head.

Assuming Gronkowski is healthy (gotta figure he will be), I'd say both offenses are equally explosive. Offensive line play is going to be majorly important obviously - I feel like the Giants might have the edge there. They didn't play too well yesterday, but they won't be facing a defense as vicious as the 49ers either. I'm really not sure how much the running game is going to play a factor especially if it turns into a shootout early.

Special teams I'd give the advantage to the Patriots - Weatherford and Mesko are both really good and field position is going to be huge. However I'd take Gostkowski over Tynes because he has a bigger leg and Tynes has had some playoff misses in the past. As far as the return game goes, the Giants have absolutely none. The Pats' might not be much to write home about but Woodhead is probably better than what the Giants have to offer.

The defense is the big difference maker. As has been said ad nauseum, the Giants' pass rush is the key to the game. When Brady is rattled he is beatable. Both secondaries are exploitable but I still have more faith in the Giants making the key deflections over the Pats.</font>

[Gonzo]

<font color=goldenrod>I think the Giants have the more balanced team. My main reason to be worried about the Patriots really just has to do with the fact that beating Brady and Belichick in the Super Bowl for the second time in such a short time frame just feels like something that's too good to be true irregardless of who's on the field. There is definitely a mystique about those guys and the fact that the burden of revenge is on them only makes it more troublesome. The Patriots are the only team in the AFC that would plant that doubt in my head.</font>

lol Vito you crack me up.

Tom Brady puts his pants on one leg at a time, just like you and me.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>No shit. We know he's beatable...we've seen it. But he's a difficult guy to bet against. 5 Super Bowl appearances in 11 years is pretty insane, to be fair. Like I said, I think the Giants are the better overall team but neither result in 2 weeks would surprise me.</font>

[screech]

'UnSuper Bowl' doesn't sit well with Ravens LB Ayanbadejo:

"Truth being told I am not sure I'm going to watch the unSuper Bowl since the two best teams are sitting at home #ravens #49ers,"

Droford in disguise.

:rofl: wow

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Chris Kluwe has to be the best NFL guy on Twitter.</font>

[weather vane]

Pats win. Book it.

[Droford]

damnit, I will be pissed if Ravens DEF Coordinator Chuck Pagano takes the Colts HC job. They dont play defense, they need to take Cam Cameron..not Pagano! damn it

[owenbrown]

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Droford's really not taking this loss very well

[owenbrown]

Ravens hating aside, Terrell Suggs is wonderful:


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Anyone who hates Skip Bayless is ok in my book.

[Innovator]

Giants Official Twitter:

Some teams are really happy getting to Conference Championship games, but #ImReallyGoodAt winning them! 5-0 all time! #ALLIN

[Supreme Olajuwon]

did they misspell BALLIN

or are they all in

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>All In. It became their slogan before the Jets game once it became clear that they needed to win their remaining games to win the division.

I do miss BALLIN' though. And I hope Strahan is invited to stand on the sidelines for the Super Bowl so he can advise the team to STOMP 'EM OUT!</font>

[FearedSanctity]

Raiders named Broncos DC Dennis Allen the favorite to be their next HC

If they hire him Denver would be on their 7th DC in 7 years. Last time the team had a DC for consecutive seasons was Larry Coyer 2002-2006

[FearedSanctity]

2006 - Coyer
2007 - Bates/Slowik
2008 - Slowik
2009 - Nolan
2010 - Martindale
2011 - Allen

[DaveBrawl]

I wonder if Steve Spagnuolo will reconsider taking the Saint's job. :shifty:

[FearedSanctity]

Think it's a pretty risky move by Oakland. Allen is coming off his first year as a coordinator and has never been a HC at any level. Also the much hyped Broncos defense finished the regular season 20th in yards per game and 24th in points allowed. So other than him being young and charismatic, can't say I really get it

[Hanso Amore]

Seems like teams are swing for the fences and hoping they find the NEXT BIG HEAD COACH.

Seriously, teams are hiring Coordinators with no head coaching experience, short terms at that level, non impressive resumes, and in Miamis case, a coordinator who didnt even call plays!

[Triple Naitch]

I thought I heard Marty Mornhinweg was the favorite to coach Oakland?

[Skippord]

this could be leading to the glorious return of Wink

[FearedSanctity]

I thought I heard Marty Mornhinweg was the favorite to coach Oakland?

Apparently Oakland called everyone else, Marty included, and said they were no longer being considered

[FearedSanctity]

this could be leading to the glorious return of Wink

Oh dear god, no

Seriously though, my money would be on someone getting promoted or Del Rio

[Emperor Smeat]

Think it's a pretty risky move by Oakland. Allen is coming off his first year as a coordinator and has never been a HC at any level. Also the much hyped Broncos defense finished the regular season 20th in yards per game and 24th in points allowed. So other than him being young and charismatic, can't say I really get it

Nothing the Raiders do usually makes sense most of the time. They probably fell for the whole defense being one of the strong points of the Broncos this year when in reality they could only do soo much as long as other teams kept the "Tebow Time" window open.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>It's Del Rio's destiny to become Broncos defensive coordinator.</font>

[FearedSanctity]

Report: Raiders considering three, including “mystery candidate”
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 24, 2012, 2:34 PM EST

ESPN reported earlier Tuesday that Broncos defensive coordinator Dennis Allen is the leading candidate to get the head coaching job in Oakland.

A report from our friend Paul Gutierrez of CSNBayArea.com has more information, saying Allen is one of three finalists for the job. It’s down to Allen, Packers linebackers coach Winston Moss, and a “mystery candidate.” McKenzie says the process could end by Saturday.

While we try to think who the mystery man might be, it’s worth noting that the two reports don’t necessarily conflict.

Gutierrez and Mort Scheftersen both say that Marty Mornhinweg is out of the running. Gutierrez says Pete Carmichael has also been informed he won’t get the job. It’s possible the Raiders are zeroing in on Allen, but two other men still have a shot if things don’t progress between Allen and the Raiders.

Hiring Allen would be a departure for the Raiders and new G.M. Reggie McKenzie. Oakland has a long tradition of hiring offensive-minded coaches, and McKenzie hasn’t worked with Allen in the past.

[Droford]

Giants Official Twitter:

Some teams are really happy getting to Conference Championship games, but #ImReallyGoodAt winning them! 5-0 all time! #ALLIN

The only reason Id want to root for the Giants is to be able to say the only team that ever beat the Giants in the Super Bowl was the Ravens.

[Droford]

Seems like teams are swing for the fences and hoping they find the NEXT BIG HEAD COACH.

Seriously, teams are hiring Coordinators with no head coaching experience, short terms at that level, non impressive resumes, and in Miamis case, a coordinator who didnt even call plays!
John Harbaugh has worked out pretty well for the Ravens..blame it on him.

[Skippord]

I bet the Raiders hire the Angels as their mystery candidate

[DaveBrawl]

<font color=goldenrod>It's Del Rio's destiny to become Broncos defensive coordinator.</font>

That might be a good thing.

[Skippord]

I like the idea of Del Rio being the replacement

TEAM CROSS ARMBREAKER!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol @ people saying Devin Thomas and Jacquian Williams need to be suspended for the Super Bowl for saying that they were trying to concuss Kyle Williams as part of their gameplan.

They went into the game knowing he already had 4 concussions. Every coaching staff in the NFL would take note of that and encourage their team to exploit it. It's not like they were even going at the guy's head whenever he was tackled. They were simply encouraged to tackle him as hard as possible knowing that he might have to get taken out of the game if he was slammed hard enough. Big fucking deal. It's football, people.</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I'm sure you'd have the same opinion if they weren't Giants players.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Let's pretend the Niners put a bounty on Eli Manning's leg. Everyone was supposed to try and take out his leg.

Fucking disgraceful act by the 49ers trying to take out Eli's leg. Players should be suspended the entire season next year for that. There's no place in football for that. Fucking sickening.

[Triple Naitch]

Had no idea that Kyle Williams is White Sox GM Kenny Williams' son.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Buddy Ryan isn't on the 49ers coaching staff, so no worries there.

But it's not the same situation. First off the fact that the guy had 4 concussions already probably was an indication that he shouldn't be playing. Any coach would exploit that. They didn't try to go after his head. They simply said that hitting him hard might make him leave the game.

You can't suspend people for trying to tackle harder. At that point you may as well just ban tackling and turn the NFL into a 2-hand touch league.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Anybody in the tri-state area...if you can figure out who's talking in this audio clip you might be able to win Super Bowl tickets tomorrow. Mike played this question all day and nobody knows who the fuck it is. My first guess was Trent Dilfer for some reason but somebody already guessed it and got it wrong:

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Hell, even I might try dialing in tomorrow. :o The first couple of questions are usually really easy. 3rd and 4th, not so much.</font>

[#1-norm-fan]

<font color=goldenrod>Buddy Ryan isn't on the 49ers coaching staff, so no worries there.

But it's not the same situation. First off the fact that the guy had 4 concussions already probably was an indication that he shouldn't be playing. Any coach would exploit that. They didn't try to go after his head. They simply said that hitting him hard might make him leave the game.

You can't suspend people for trying to tackle harder. At that point you may as well just ban tackling and turn the NFL into a 2-hand touch league.</font>

lol. Jesus. Really?

It's not the tackling that is the issue. It's the act of going out there with the intent of giving someone a serious injury. Period. It doesn't matter their strategy, if they aimed for the head or not. When you say your biggest thing was "to take him out of the game" based on his history with concussions there isn't any question on what you're trying to do.

[#1-norm-fan]

Let's pretend the Niners put a bounty on Eli Manning's leg. Everyone was supposed to try and take out his leg.

Fucking disgraceful act by the 49ers trying to take out Eli's leg. Players should be suspended the entire season next year for that. There's no place in football for that. Fucking sickening.


This

[#1-norm-fan]

<font color=goldenrod>Anybody in the tri-state area...if you can figure out who's talking in this audio clip you might be able to win Super Bowl tickets tomorrow. Mike played this question all day and nobody knows who the fuck it is. My first guess was Trent Dilfer for some reason but somebody already guessed it and got it wrong:

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Hell, even I might try dialing in tomorrow. :o The first couple of questions are usually really easy. 3rd and 4th, not so much.</font>

And Sean Landeta

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Don't get me wrong, it was a dumb comment to make and it reflects poorly on you as a person for actively wanting to get somebody out of the game via injury. My contention is just with the claim that they should be suspended. They simply pointed out that hitting him hard (and clean) might be able to take him out of the game and put the Niners on their 3rd string returner. Scummy comment? Absolutely. But they didn't violate any rules. If they get suspended over that then where was D'Angelo Hall's suspension for openly saying he was going to target Romo's broken ribs and punctured lung? The intention was exactly the same.

I do think the NFL will need to be even more strict with their concussion policies next season, though. Williams has had 4 this season, which is pretty crazy. In addition to the current protocol, I think you should have to go on IR if you get multiple concussions during the season. It might be a bit much and I know everybody reacts to concussions differently, but I just don't see how playing with more than one concussion in such a short time span could be a good idea.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Apparently Dennis Allen is the first Raiders head coach with a defensive background since John Madden. Christ.</font>

[DaveBrawl]

Save_Us.DelRio

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol the audio clip was John Kuhn. Never would have gotten that one in a million years. :o Had no idea he had a ring with the Steelers.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

NFL owners extend Roger Goodell's contract for a 2nd time with the new deal lasting till 2019 although the monetary amount wasn't revealed.

[Innovator]

How dare the Giants kick to the punt returner.

[Ermaximus]

Some people just like raining on people's parade. Gritty win by both teams tonight. It is sure to be a crazy two weeks of build up. Good luck Giants but remember revenge is a dish best served cold and it will be very cold in Indy.*

*except in Lucas Oil Stadium.

Anyways....Khannnnnnnnnnnn!

Hey man, leave my new team owner out of this.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Chuck Pagano hired as Colts head coach.</font>

[FearedSanctity]

Cue Droford tears

[Droford]

lose Pagano and now I hear the stupid mother fucking moron Cameron is probably NOT leaving..WTF

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Sounds like the Bucs are gonna hire Rutgers head coach Greg Schiano.

Dolphins are probably going to end up with Mike Sherman.</font>

[Triple Naitch]

Thought the Dolphins hired Green Bay's OC?

[Evil Vito]

Oh yeah. One of the reporters must have made a typo. Turns out Sherman is heading to Tampa for another interview but they've basically settled on Schiano.

[Evil Vito]

Got a list of answers at the ready for the Super Bowl contest today. Probably not gonna get through but worth a shot. :o

[Innovator]

Quick Vito, 5 coaches have taken 2 different teams in the Superbowl, name them.

[Nark Order]

Don Shula, Bill Parcels...

And 3 other guys. :(

FUCK YOU, VITO.

[Evil Vito]

Lol I remember last year he had some Super Bowl question that related to hockey somehow and the caller pointed out that he shouldn't ask it because he never bothers talking hockey.

[Innovator]

Don Shula, Bill Parcels...

And 3 other guys. :(

FUCK YOU, VITO.

Dick Vermeil, Mike Holmgren, Dan Reeves

[Innovator]

http://66wfan.net/showthread.php?1929-The-Mike-Francesa-2012-Super-Bowl-Trivia-answers

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, was using that site as well as the forums at mikefrancesa.com

Tried calling early and was already told that all lines are busy. :( Plus somebody won on the first try so fuck knows when he'll play again.

It's funny because he's said he has people monitoring some of these sites. Somebody got the Brett Keisel clip wrong and it was never played again after the answer got immediately posted.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Holy shit. Mike broke out an audio clip never before used and somebody got it right on the first try - Flozell Adams. So 3 out of the 4 winning audio clips have been random players from last year's Super Bowl Media Week (John Kuhn, Tim Masthay, Flozell Adams).

Better pay attention to interviews next week and take note of obscure Giants and Pats players for next year's contest.</font> :shifty:

[Innovator]

Vito, have you ever called in Mike's show and gotten on air?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Nah, never really felt the need to call in before. Probably wouldn't be able to resist making a Diet Coke joke.</font>

[Innovator]

It would be that or a Dog impression.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The best part about his show is that the YES Network has a tendency to cut back from commercial early without telling him. Almost feel like they do it on purpose because it yields hilarious results, like catching him eating ice cream and he quickly tries to cover it up:</font>

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[Triple Naitch]

Lol. That's pretty hilarious.

[Gonzo]

Jim Irsay is making himself out to be a bit of a twat.

[Reavant]

polian needs to go back to the bills

[Droford]

Jim Irsay is making himself out to be a bit of a twat.
like father like son?

[Droford]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/893824/Cundiff_Sign_medium.jpg

Im not too sure if I find this amusing or not

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>LOL poor Cundiff :( after that and seeing highlights of Scott Norwood a lot in the past few days, I'm not sure there is anything more nerve racking in sports than a "make it or lose" field goal. For the collective blood pressure of all Giants and Pats fans, I kinda hope the line ends up being wrong and the game gets decided by 4+ points.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Destiny fulfilled. Jack Del Rio is the new Broncos defensive coordinator.</font>

[Gonzo]

Tynes could have easily fell into the category of kickers to do that in '07. Luckily for him he got the chance to redeem himself and did.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, his miss before overtime was brutal...but at least there was still overtime to fall back on and it wasn't totally make it or break it. I remember in OT nearly everybody in the room was calling for Feagles to coffin corner the Packers inside the 5 or something and put the game in the defense's hands again rather than have Tynes try a 47 yarder. I was one of the few advocating for Tynes to get a 3rd crack at it. Glad it worked out. :cool:

While he's had some clutch kicks over the years, he's also missed a fair share - including the near meltdown in Green Bay. I like Tynes and the Super Bowl being indoors is a plus but with one drive to go I'd still probably feel a lot more comfortable getting the ball down by 4 than I would by 3 or less. Super Bowl 42 style.</font>

[Skippord]

Destiny fulfilled. Jack Del Rio is the new Broncos defensive coordinator.
I'm super excited about this, actually.

[FearedSanctity]

Same here, I love Del Rio as a DC. His past success under Fox is a huge plus too

[Skippord]

Hopefully he won't get a head coaching job next year.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

'UnSuper Bowl' doesn't sit well with Ravens LB Ayanbadejo:

"Truth being told I am not sure I'm going to watch the unSuper Bowl since the two best teams are sitting at home #ravens #49ers,"

Droford in disguise.

NFL should fine him if they haven't already. Totally classless.

[FearedSanctity]

Hopefully he won't get a head coaching job next year.

I think we're safe. It seems like most recently fired HCs have to coordinate for 3 or 4 years before they get another shot. But given Denver's luck with DCs, yeah he'll get hired and we'll be on the 8th DC in 8 years

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/893824/Cundiff_Sign_medium.jpg

Im not too sure if I find this amusing or not

You shouldn't if you're really a Ravens fan.

[OssMan]

THEY INSULTED MY TEAM

[DaveBrawl]

So glad Denver signed Del Rio.

[screech]

NFL should fine him if they haven't already. Totally classless.

Why should he be fined? He didn't really attack anybody, he's just bitter because he's not there.

Was it a stupid thing to say? Yes, but he doesn't need to be fined over it.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Rob Gronkowski's dad, Gronk will play in the Superbowl even though he has a high ankle sprain.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Gronk missing the game was never going to happen, but high ankle sprains nearly always take an eternity to heal. He'll still be a threat especially in the red zone, but he might not be able to grab all the extra yards after the catch that he normally gets.

Funny part was Belichick was probably being vague about Gronk's injury on purpose...he never tips his hand on any potential injury, hence why half of his roster is listed as Questionable every week. Can't imagine he's too thrilled about Gronk's dad spilling the beans.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Potential coaching swap going on. Bruce Arians is the new offensive coordinator of the Colts.

Not to be outdone, the Steelers are interviewing Jim Caldwell for their vacant OC job.</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Actually watched the Pro Bowl tonight cause there were Bengals in it and god damn it was so terrible.

[RoXer]

Did you watch it at a bar with your friends?

[Kris P Lettus]

shisen kopf (http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2012/01/lions_fan_admits_calling_in_bo.html)

[Droford]

Jim Caldwell is now the Ravens QB coach, joining the long line of failed head coaches to to try their hand at coaching Flacco (Hue Jackson and Jim Zorn).

pft

[Hanso Amore]

Yeah, LONG LINE. Of two failed head coaches....WHen one was before he was a HC.

You are such a fucking twat.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I guess he means all of his coaches from College, High School, Pop Warner, Flag Football, Two Hand Touch, One Hand Touch, Nerf Football during recess and playing Madden online.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Why should he be fined? He didn't really attack anybody, he's just bitter because he's not there.

Was it a stupid thing to say? Yes, but he doesn't need to be fined over it.

It's basically telling all of his followers to not watch the Superbowl the most profitable night in the year for the NFL.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich
2 yrs ago I was told I might never walk again. Just WALKED off plane in Indy to play in The #SuperBowl. #TakeThatSh*tCancer

Herzlich :love: He was a healthy scratch for the NFC Title game so I dunno if he's gonna end up playing...but if he does I could see him contributing a huge special teams play or something. Love that guy.</font>

[DaveBrawl]

I kind of miss Jim Zorn coaching the Redskins. They sucked, but he was much more endearing than Shanahan.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Gronkowski was seen at practice with no more walking boot and he wasn't limping at all either. Fuck. He has to be superhuman...100% healing from a high ankle sprain that quickly is unheard of.</font>

[Innovator]

Cmon Vito you knew Gronkowski will play. Bibi Jones nursed him back to health probably.

[MVP]

Rumor has it that Gronk also has an adamantine skeleton.

[Innovator]

Rumor has it that Brandon Jacobs doesn't run hard.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I knew Gronk would play obv, but if his ankle sprain was still bothering him it would go a long way to limiting all the yards he tends to pile on after the catch. It's shocking that he healed up that quick.

Fortunately, Coughlin is smart enough to know to gameplan for a 100% Gronk anyway. He toasted the Giants in the last game so hopefully they can figure out a different approach.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I've actually heard a lot of analysts say that they wouldn't be surprised to see Ochocinco of all people be a surprise player in the game because "he's due" and the Giants are going to be busy gameplanning for the million other weapons the Pats have.

I really wouldn't put anything past Belichick...but it would definitely be a shocker.

Fuck I want it to be Sunday.</font>

[Innovator]

Giants could never cover a tight end, now we have to cover 2.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I had gained some confidence in the Giants finally learning to defend tight ends...until Davis just absolutely abused them. Gonna be a pick your poison kind of game. If Gronk is running well at the start I think he'll draw the initial double coverage but who knows.

It's gonna come down to the defense being able to fucking tackle immediately to limit the YAC. Sacks are going to be hard to come by even with the Giants' great pass rush. Brady knows he needs to get rid of the ball fast so they might dink and dunk it all the way down the field. Gotta tackle.</font>

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The problem with defending tight ends is that you have to have a good one so that the defense can prepare with. Too bad you guys lost Kevin Boss.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I thought Boss was gonna be a huge loss, but Jake Ballard has been a big surprise this year and has been a nice weapon to compliment the three receivers. I give a lot of credit to tight ends coach Mike Pope...the guy has been with the Giants since the 80's and they've consistently been able to churn out quality tight ends.</font>

[Innovator]

Ballard needs to learn how to catch passes that hit him in the hands.

[Emperor Smeat]

<font color=goldenrod>I had gained some confidence in the Giants finally learning to defend tight ends...until Davis just absolutely abused them. Gonna be a pick your poison kind of game. If Gronk is running well at the start I think he'll draw the initial double coverage but who knows.

It's gonna come down to the defense being able to fucking tackle immediately to limit the YAC. Sacks are going to be hard to come by even with the Giants' great pass rush. Brady knows he needs to get rid of the ball fast so they might dink and dunk it all the way down the field. Gotta tackle.</font>

Yeah the O-line on the Pats are going to be a big factor in next week's game.

The first SB meeting, the O-line completely fell apart which let the Giants defense have their way for almost the whole game. Ended being the only game that season and playoffs where the O-Line didn't play well and a hidden factor for the Giants winning.

[Evil Vito]

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h127/jasonjcollins/SBTeamPic.jpg

<font color=goldenrod>Dammit Osi! Learn to count!</font>

[Gonzo]

No way Gronk is 100% for Sunday's game. He'll play but there is no way he'll be at 100%.

Stopping the Patriots is as simple as this: control the line of scrimmage. Penetrate, contain, and stay at home against the run. Collapse the pocket against the pass. Everything else will fall into place.

[OssMan]

The two weeks are going by fast.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I thank the Royal Rumble for that.

[Innovator]

Resting heart rate up to 90.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Media Week is so tedious. The players get asked the same questions over and over all week and the answers never change.

That being said, for a team whose mantra is "Talk is cheap, play the game" the Giants ran their mouths a lot more this week than the Pats. Guys like Rolle and Jacobs were always going to talk, they've been doing it all year...but you have Manningham barely able to contain his excitement about facing Edelman, JPP saying Brady is afraid of them, Canty guaranteeing a parade on Tuesday, etc. I wish they would shut up and play, but what can you do. Meanwhile the Pats haven't really trash talked at all, they want to avoid another "We're only gonna score 17 points? LOL okay." debacle.

So far I think Mad Dog is the only pundit I've heard predicting a Pats win. He thinks Brady is due to bounce back and that the Giants tend to suck when most everybody picks them. It's a stigma the Giants have had for a while along with not being able to win playoff games at home lately. They checked the playoff one off the list this year finally so hopefully they can take care of business on Sunday. Almost here.</font> :love:

[Innovator]

Seriously Giants need to shut up. Heart rate at 95.

[Droford]

Decided today Im gonna go play blackjack or something and not watch the Super Bowl.

Tried to get excited about the game and can't do it.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Damn, you know something's wrong when Droford can't get excited.

[Emperor Smeat]

<font color=goldenrod>Media Week is so tedious. The players get asked the same questions over and over all week and the answers never change.

That being said, for a team whose mantra is "Talk is cheap, play the game" the Giants ran their mouths a lot more this week than the Pats. Guys like Rolle and Jacobs were always going to talk, they've been doing it all year...but you have Manningham barely able to contain his excitement about facing Edelman, JPP saying Brady is afraid of them, Canty guaranteeing a parade on Tuesday, etc. I wish they would shut up and play, but what can you do. Meanwhile the Pats haven't really trash talked at all, they want to avoid another "We're only gonna score 17 points? LOL okay." debacle.

So far I think Mad Dog is the only pundit I've heard predicting a Pats win. He thinks Brady is due to bounce back and that the Giants tend to suck when most everybody picks them. It's a stigma the Giants have had for a while along with not being able to win playoff games at home lately. They checked the playoff one off the list this year finally so hopefully they can take care of business on Sunday. Almost here.</font> :love:

Yeah almost a complete swap of roles in comparison to the 2008 SB. In 2008, Pats barely squeaked by the Giants in the regular season, Giants were mostly quiet and focused on the game, and the Pats were the ones doing the trash talking.

Fast forward to now and its almost a complete reverse. Giants barely squeaked by in the season meeting, Giants trash talking the most, Patriots mostly quiet and focused on the game.

Biggest differences is Patriots give up an experienced defense for one that's more hungry to prove they belong while the Giants have moved away from a dominate rush attack to a more pass attack.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Add Rich Gannon, Adam Schefter, Mark Schlereth, and the weird AccuScore thing ESPN has as predicting the Patriots. Everyone else is with the Giants. Fuck. Pick against us, dammit. :mad: :(

Pats fans seem pretty certain that Edelman is gonna have a good day just because he's been getting shat on by the Giants and the media in general. Probably the closest thing we have in Media Week that resembles Brady's score prediction debacle.</font>

[OssMan]

Nobody has given them a chance all year!

[MVP]

The Iron Sheik @the_ironsheik:
who going to win superbowl? best city in the world new york? or team who have quarterback whose wife i like to fuck in the ass?

[RP]

The Iron Sheik @the_ironsheik:
who going to win superbowl? best city in the world new york? or team who have quarterback whose wife i like to fuck in the ass?

They pay people to make tough calls like that.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Kinda leaning toward the Pats right now tbh. Think people are glossing over how the Giants reached the Super Bowl. They clobbered the Falcons at home, but got the Packers at their absolute worst and let's face it, were handed the NFC title by muffed punts.

Not saying the Giants aren't good cause they definitely are. But I'm thinking the Pats might be a little bit better.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Although I guess the Pats were handed the AFC title too. :o

[Supreme Olajuwon]

So in conclusion, I don't know.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Maybe the Giants.

[Hanso Amore]

I use the Bills as a measuring stick :shifty:

They Beat the Pats then Lost to the Giants.

Giants...

[Reavant]

i want the pats to win just so the bills can have something to hang their hat on about this past season.

[Gonzo]

I hope the Giants pass rush goes fucking nuts. So excited. If it's close, I think I'll be able to come to grips with it. If the Giants come out and lay an egg, I'll cry for weeks.

[Droford]

Patriots 41-14

Eli will throw not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 picks.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Sunshine, lollipops, and Droford predictions.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I think I feel more nervous about this game than I was for SB 42 just because all of the pressure was on the Pats going into that one. When the Giants managed to win the East I said that anything they did in the playoffs would be gravy...but now 4 weeks later it's way past that, especially since they're the favorites (unofficially, but still) and they've run their mouths all week. They have to be able to back it up or else they're going to wind up looking like idiots.

As much as I'd love for the Giants to win it easily and break the 4 year streak of competitive Super Bowls, I can't see how this doesn't go down to the wire. It's gonna be a coronary-inducing few hours one way or the other. Can't wait to finally get it started so we can put the neverending hype to rest.

#ALLIN</font>

[Team Sheep]

In all fairness, as good as the Giants have been, I still think the pressure is more on the Patriots. The Giants weren't realistically looked at as a real Super Bowl contender by most people until like after the wild card round at the earliest. They are a 9-7 team after all.

[Corndad]

Hopin The Bus gets into Hall of Fame tonight. It's gonna be tough with that list though.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>None of the 3 WRs (Carter, Reed, Brown) getting in is just insane. How Carter hasn't gone in yet is beyond me.</font>

[Evil Vito]

In all fairness, as good as the Giants have been, I still think the pressure is more on the Patriots. The Giants weren't realistically looked at as a real Super Bowl contender by most people until like after the wild card round at the earliest. They are a 9-7 team after all.

<font color=goldenrod>It's a tough call, but I think the only way the Pats have more "pressure" on them to win is because it's the same team they lost to 4 years ago. But even at that, anybody being realistic knows that 18-1 isn't going to magically go away with a Pats win tomorrow. You know Brady and Belichick are going to use it as motivation, but 4 years ago is a long time in the NFL. The teams are totally different.

I've heard a lot about how Brady and Belichick's legacy will be hurt big time with another SB loss. I don't really see it. 3 SB rings and 5 SB appearances in 11 years is insane any way you slice it. Their spots in Canton are already reserved no matter what. I'd make the argument that Coughlin and Eli's legacy has more at stake. A win would make Coughlin a definite HOFer (2 rings, 4 Conference title games, great overall record, successfully built 2 franchises) and Eli would be in a position to get in with a couple more good statistical seasons. Pretty crazy.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

:D Martin made it to the Hall.

Really loved that guy as a player and hated when he left as part of the Parcells deal for the Jets.

Not completely shocked at Carter and Reed being left out because for some strange reason the Hall doesn't value WRs as strongly as everyone else does. Usually the players to get most of the hype are either at the QB, RB, and WR position but the Hall doesn't favor the WRs (or at least the recent batch sans Rice).

Really shocked at Parcells not making it since he was a great coach for multiple teams and his legacy really shines when you consider tomorrow's SB game involves coaches from his coaching tree.

[Nark Order]

Thought for sure Aldon Smith would make Defensive Rookie of the Year. At least the superior Harbaugh got the nod. :)

[Corndad]

Happy for those who got in. Sad Bettis didn't even make top 10 but can understand with 2 Steelers (Dawson and Butler) and 2 Pitt players (Martin and Doleman) making it where it would run thin in the voting room.

Shocked not one of those WR didn't get in. Figured 1 each the next few years.

[Innovator]

Heart rate = 105

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Patriots release WR Tiquan Underwood and sign DE Alex Silvestro off their practice squad. Appearently the Pats want an extra DE to rotate in and out and for special teams.

It sounds really cold at first, but all it really does is confirm that Ochocinco is going to play and that Underwood was probably going to be inactive anyway. I think/hope that he'll get signed to their practice squad to replace Silvestro so that he can still be on the sidelines for the game.</font>

[Skippord]

Von :cool:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>My favorite part of the awards show has been Alec asking who's excited for the Super Bowl and when they panned the crowd none of the current NFL players were applauding for it. Good 'ol bitterness.

Also :D @ Clay Madonna</font>

[Kris P Lettus]

Willie Roaf :love:

[Hanso Amore]

While I cant "argue" anyone who made the Hall....No WR is garbage. All 3 should and will make it. Thought this was Reeds Year. He retired top 3 in all WR stats and has far better numbers than most of the WE wing. Thought he might sneak in this year due not making it in the past, to clear the WE log jam, then making it easier for Brown and Carter.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Don't you think they over-due WRs a bit in the Hall of Fame? Sort of glad they took a break from that position this year.

[Droford]

I never really saw Curtis "My Favorite" Martin as a HOF'er.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Well then you've got your head up your ass.

[Droford]

Is Eddie George a HOF RB? Because he had almost similar career numbers over the exact same time span.

Eddie George:
<table class="sortable stats_table row_summable row_summable" id="rushing_and_receiving"><thead><tr class=""><th class="tooltip sort_default_asc" align="left">Year</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">G</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">Att</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">Yds</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">TD</th> <th class="tooltip hide_non_quals" align="center">Y/A</th> <th class="tooltip hide_non_quals" align="center">Y/G</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">Rec</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">Yds</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">TD</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">Fmb</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr class="delete_this_tip"><td colspan="1">
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</td></tr><tr data-row="0" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1996"> <td align="left">1996 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1996/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">335</td> <td align="right">1368</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">4.1</td> <td align="right">85.5</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">182</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">3</td> </tr> <tr data-row="1" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1997"> <td align="left">1997 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1997/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)*</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">357</td> <td align="right">1399</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">3.9</td> <td align="right">87.4</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">44</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">4</td> </tr> <tr data-row="2" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1998"> <td align="left">1998 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1998/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)*</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">348</td> <td align="right">1294</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">3.7</td> <td align="right">80.9</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">310</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">7</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="3" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1999"> <td align="left">1999 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1999/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)*</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">320</td> <td align="right">1304</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">4.1</td> <td align="right">81.5</td> <td align="right">47</td> <td align="right">458</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">5</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="4" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2000"> <td align="left">2000 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2000/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)*+</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">403</td> <td align="right">1509</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">3.7</td> <td align="right">94.3</td> <td align="right">50</td> <td align="right">453</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">5</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="5" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2001"> <td align="left">2001 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2001/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">315</td> <td align="right">939</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">3.0</td> <td align="right">58.7</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">279</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">8</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="6" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2002"> <td align="left">2002 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2002/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">343</td> <td align="right">1165</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">3.4</td> <td align="right">72.8</td> <td align="right">36</td> <td align="right">255</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="7" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2003"> <td align="left">2003 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2003/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">312</td> <td align="right">1031</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">3.3</td> <td align="right">64.4</td> <td align="right">22</td> <td align="right">163</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="8" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2004"> <td align="left">2004 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2004/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">132</td> <td align="right">432</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">3.3</td> <td align="right">33.2</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">83</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">3</td> </tr> </tbody> <tfoot> <tr data-row="9" class="stat_total"> <td align="left">Career</td> <td align="right">141</td> <td align="right">2865</td> <td align="right">10441</td> <td align="right">68</td> <td align="right">3.6</td> <td align="right">74.0</td> <td align="right">268</td> <td align="right">2227</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">37</td></tr></tfoot></table>


Curtis Martin:
<table class="sortable stats_table row_summable row_summable" id="rushing_and_receiving"><tbody><tr data-row="0" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1995"><td align="left">1995 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1995/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)*</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">368</td> <td align="right">1487</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">4.0</td> <td align="right">92.9</td> <td align="right">30</td> <td align="right">261</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">5</td> </tr> <tr data-row="1" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1996"> <td align="left">1996 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1996/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)*</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">316</td> <td align="right">1152</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">3.6</td> <td align="right">72.0</td> <td align="right">46</td> <td align="right">333</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">4</td> </tr> <tr data-row="2" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1997"> <td align="left">1997 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1997/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">274</td> <td align="right">1160</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">4.2</td> <td align="right">89.2</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td align="right">296</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">3</td> </tr> <tr data-row="3" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1998"> <td align="left">1998 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1998/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)*</td> <td align="right">15</td> <td align="right">369</td> <td align="right">1287</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">3.5</td> <td align="right">85.8</td> <td align="right">43</td> <td align="right">365</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">5</td> </tr> <tr data-row="4" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1999"> <td align="left">1999 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1999/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">367</td> <td align="right">1464</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">4.0</td> <td align="right">91.5</td> <td align="right">45</td> <td align="right">259</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr data-row="5" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2000"> <td align="left">2000 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2000/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">316</td> <td align="right">1204</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">3.8</td> <td align="right">75.3</td> <td align="right">70</td> <td align="right">508</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr data-row="6" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2001"> <td align="left">2001 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2001/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)*</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">333</td> <td align="right">1513</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">4.5</td> <td align="right">94.6</td> <td align="right">53</td> <td align="right">320</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr data-row="7" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2002"> <td align="left">2002 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2002/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">261</td> <td align="right">1094</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">4.2</td> <td align="right">68.4</td> <td align="right">49</td> <td align="right">362</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr data-row="8" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2003"> <td align="left">2003 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2003/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">323</td> <td align="right">1308</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">4.0</td> <td align="right">81.8</td> <td align="right">42</td> <td align="right">262</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr data-row="9" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2004"> <td align="left">2004 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2004/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)*+</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">371</td> <td align="right">1697</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">4.6</td> <td align="right">106.1</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td align="right">245</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="10" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2005"> <td align="left">2005 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2005/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">220</td> <td align="right">735</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">3.3</td> <td align="right">61.3</td> <td align="right">24</td> <td align="right">118</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> </tbody> <tfoot> <tr data-row="11" class="stat_total"> <td align="left">Career</td> <td align="right">168</td> <td align="right">3518</td> <td align="right">14101</td> <td align="right">90</td> <td align="right">4.0</td> <td align="right">83.9</td> <td align="right">484</td> <td align="right">3329</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">29</td></tr></tfoot></table>

[Skippord]

almost similar?

[Droford]

I only mention Eddie George because on ProFootballReference, Curtis Martin is rated similarly to Eddie George through the first 9 years.

Plus I remember Eddie George a hell of a lot better cause of all the games vs the Ravens.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Look at the yards again Droford and the fumbles. 4,000+ more all-purpose yards for Curtis Martin. 'Nuff said.

[Droford]

almost similar?
Both were consistently around 1,000 yards a season their entire career. Martin played almost 2 seasons more games than Eddie George did which shows the discrepency in career yards. I can't say anything for the fumbles but its only a couple fumbles more..

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The years played is part of the deal. Eddie George couldn't cut it anymore and Curtis Martin had a career year in his final full season.

90 to 68 Rushing touchdowns? See reason for christ's sake.

[Droford]

Name the Non Hall of Fame RB who had a similar career to these players:

Career Jim Brown (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrowJi00.htm)*, Tony Dorsett (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DorsTo00.htm)*, Tiki Barber (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BarbTi00.htm), Roger Craig (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CraiRo00.htm), Eric Dickerson (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DickEr00.htm)*, Curtis Martin (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MartCu00.htm)*, Lenny Moore (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MoorLe00.htm)*, Fred Taylor (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylFr00.htm), Barry Sanders (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SandBa00.htm)*, John L. Williams (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WillJo00.htm)

*=HOF

Ricky "Running" Watters

surprised he isn't in the HOF..I think of him being a hell of a lot more suited to be in the HOF than martin..

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

You have a hate for the Jets or the Pats or something? Allergic reaction to the truth?

[Droford]

When someone says "Curtis Martin", I dont think "Hall of Fame RB"

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I really hope the 3 wideouts make it in soon because in a few years offensive players trying to get into the HOF might be hurt by the NFL's current offensive explosion. The Andre Dawson Effect.</font>

[Droford]

HOF needs to put some kickers in

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Ray Guy needs to be in. The voters seem to think that punters don't belong in but he was a legitimate game changer. If Guy doesn't go in, no punter ever will.</font>

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

When someone says "Curtis Martin", I dont think "Hall of Fame RB"

When I think Droford, I think Hall of Fame moron/jackass. You're full of shit which is vintage Droford.

By stats alone he's a HOF. Of course had you read them you wouldn't have even posted them since they disprove everything you said. He did the 10,000 in 10 years which has only been done by Barry Sanders.

Now there are the other things that make up a HOF: being a great teammate and influence on the team/community.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Kickers of all kinds are shunned by the Hall of Fame. Why in the name of fuck isn't Gino Cappelletti in the Hall of Fame?

[Droford]

ooh, forgot to mention

Suggs Defensive Player Of The Year!

[Gonzo]

Curtis Martin is a HOF RB, no question in my mind.

[Droford]

whoops

The Giants.com page briefly had a headline that read "The Giants are Super Bowl champions!" with an ad for official Giants Super Bowl championship gear on it. There was a link to enter Giants.com on the image which contained game photos of defensive end Justin Tuck (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8488/justin-tuck), linebacker Mathias Kiwanuka (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9618/mathias-kiwanuka), defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13256/jason-pierre-paul), quarterback Eli Manning (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/5526/eli-manning) and a shot of the Vince Lombardi trophy.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

CANCEL THOSE RESERVATIONS!

[Droford]

Some poor kid in Africa will be wearing the Giants Super Bowl 46 Champions shirt.

[James Steele]

I have only ever rooted for the Giants once (SB XLII) and I will never do it again, so slap me on the ass and call me Cream Pie because I'm rooting for the Patriots. It helps that I played high school ball with a guy currently on the Pats roster.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/x-64CaD8GXw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

You're not doing this just to jinx us are you?

[James Steele]

You're not doing this just to jinx us are you?

No. I hate all Northeastern and teams west of the Rocky Mountains, but the Giants were half-ass likeable in 07 and the Pats were very unlikeable after Spygate, the "17 points? LAWL" thing, and Randy Moss being a piece of shit. I also can't stand that people will ever consider Eli Manning better than Peyton if he wins this game. Plus, I've grown to like Bill Belichick after watching some of the NFL Films/NFL Network productions (2 part Football Life, NFL Network SoundFX) done on him. Plus, I want a guy I have known since 8th grade to get a Super Bowl ring because that would be pretty friggin' neat.

[Gonzo]

I don't think Eli is "better" than Peyton but Eli, generally, delivers in big games. I think he is more clutch than Peyton.

[Innovator]

I think I'm developing a tick.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Not too happy about the glitch on the Giants website. Pretty obvious they accidentally tested the image in the live environment. But the hats look awesome. Gonna be so sad if I can't pick up one of those bad boys during the week. :(

#ALLIN</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Let's wager on how many of these prop bets Droford has money on:</font>

http://www.sbnation.com/2012-super-bowl/2012/2/3/2768135/super-bowl-prop-bets-2012-giants-patriots

[Nark Order]

Giants talked a bunch more trash than I thought they would in the buildup for this. Kind of acting like sunsabitches. Wouldn't mind Brady getting his revenge but I still will root for New York so I can feel easier about them beating us if they win the big one.

[DaveWadding]

you still won't feel better about Kyle Williams beating you though.

[Nark Order]

No, probably not. Probably not.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Chris Canty tweeted a score prediction of 28-17 Giants. JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DO YOUR TALKING ON THE FIELD. WHY DO THE GIANTS FEEL THE NEED TO GIVE THE PATS EXTRA BULLETIN BOARD MATERIAL EVERY DAY? GODDDDDDDDDDDD :mad:

Heart rate = 150</font> :shifty:

[Nark Order]

Just watched the NFL Honors. Was Terrell Suggs with a hooker? Lol, Jesus. That woman looked like she had a couple thousand miles on her.

[Emperor Smeat]

Goodell and the NFL considering getting rid of the Pro Bowl game if interest drops again and there is no way to improve it to make everyone happy. Even gave a small hint of possibly moving it out of Hawaii since most players seem more interested in the vacation than playing a game.

They already moved it from the week after to now the week before the SB to help generate interest but it hasn't really worked out well.

[Gonzo]

So fucking excited. COME GET SOME.

[Triple Naitch]

Puppy Bowl on in 10 minutes.

#CANTWAIT

[Droford]

lol Rex Ryan is in an Adam Sandler movie and he has a poster of Tom Brady that Sandler destroys and he goes "he has the perfect amount of scruff".

WTF

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wonder if there's a prop bet on how many roughing the passer calls Brady will get tonight. Considering you can get a flag for doing so much as coughing on him after the ball is released I'd set the over/under at 3. Meanwhile Eli will draw no flags even if he gets pounded after the throw.</font>

[Hanso Amore]

Is Eddie George a HOF RB? Because he had almost similar career numbers over the exact same time span.

Eddie George:
<table class="sortable stats_table row_summable row_summable" id="rushing_and_receiving"><thead><tr class=""><th class="tooltip sort_default_asc" align="left">Year</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">G</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">Att</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">Yds</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">TD</th> <th class="tooltip hide_non_quals" align="center">Y/A</th> <th class="tooltip hide_non_quals" align="center">Y/G</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">Rec</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">Yds</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">TD</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">Fmb</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr class="delete_this_tip"><td colspan="1">
</td><td colspan="1">
</td><td colspan="1">
</td><td colspan="1">
</td><td colspan="1">
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</td></tr><tr data-row="0" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1996"> <td align="left">1996 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1996/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">335</td> <td align="right">1368</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">4.1</td> <td align="right">85.5</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">182</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">3</td> </tr> <tr data-row="1" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1997"> <td align="left">1997 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1997/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)*</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">357</td> <td align="right">1399</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">3.9</td> <td align="right">87.4</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">44</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">4</td> </tr> <tr data-row="2" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1998"> <td align="left">1998 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1998/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)*</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">348</td> <td align="right">1294</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">3.7</td> <td align="right">80.9</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">310</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">7</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="3" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1999"> <td align="left">1999 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1999/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)*</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">320</td> <td align="right">1304</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">4.1</td> <td align="right">81.5</td> <td align="right">47</td> <td align="right">458</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">5</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="4" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2000"> <td align="left">2000 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2000/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)*+</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">403</td> <td align="right">1509</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">3.7</td> <td align="right">94.3</td> <td align="right">50</td> <td align="right">453</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">5</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="5" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2001"> <td align="left">2001 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2001/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">315</td> <td align="right">939</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">3.0</td> <td align="right">58.7</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">279</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">8</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="6" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2002"> <td align="left">2002 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2002/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">343</td> <td align="right">1165</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">3.4</td> <td align="right">72.8</td> <td align="right">36</td> <td align="right">255</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="7" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2003"> <td align="left">2003 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2003/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">312</td> <td align="right">1031</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">3.3</td> <td align="right">64.4</td> <td align="right">22</td> <td align="right">163</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="8" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2004"> <td align="left">2004 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2004/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">132</td> <td align="right">432</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">3.3</td> <td align="right">33.2</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">83</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">3</td> </tr> </tbody> <tfoot> <tr data-row="9" class="stat_total"> <td align="left">Career</td> <td align="right">141</td> <td align="right">2865</td> <td align="right">10441</td> <td align="right">68</td> <td align="right">3.6</td> <td align="right">74.0</td> <td align="right">268</td> <td align="right">2227</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">37</td></tr></tfoot></table>


Curtis Martin:
<table class="sortable stats_table row_summable row_summable" id="rushing_and_receiving"><tbody><tr data-row="0" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1995"><td align="left">1995 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1995/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)*</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">368</td> <td align="right">1487</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">4.0</td> <td align="right">92.9</td> <td align="right">30</td> <td align="right">261</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">5</td> </tr> <tr data-row="1" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1996"> <td align="left">1996 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1996/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)*</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">316</td> <td align="right">1152</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">3.6</td> <td align="right">72.0</td> <td align="right">46</td> <td align="right">333</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">4</td> </tr> <tr data-row="2" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1997"> <td align="left">1997 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1997/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">274</td> <td align="right">1160</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">4.2</td> <td align="right">89.2</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td align="right">296</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">3</td> </tr> <tr data-row="3" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1998"> <td align="left">1998 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1998/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)*</td> <td align="right">15</td> <td align="right">369</td> <td align="right">1287</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">3.5</td> <td align="right">85.8</td> <td align="right">43</td> <td align="right">365</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">5</td> </tr> <tr data-row="4" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1999"> <td align="left">1999 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1999/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">367</td> <td align="right">1464</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">4.0</td> <td align="right">91.5</td> <td align="right">45</td> <td align="right">259</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr data-row="5" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2000"> <td align="left">2000 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2000/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">316</td> <td align="right">1204</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">3.8</td> <td align="right">75.3</td> <td align="right">70</td> <td align="right">508</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr data-row="6" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2001"> <td align="left">2001 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2001/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)*</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">333</td> <td align="right">1513</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">4.5</td> <td align="right">94.6</td> <td align="right">53</td> <td align="right">320</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr data-row="7" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2002"> <td align="left">2002 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2002/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">261</td> <td align="right">1094</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">4.2</td> <td align="right">68.4</td> <td align="right">49</td> <td align="right">362</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr data-row="8" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2003"> <td align="left">2003 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2003/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">323</td> <td align="right">1308</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">4.0</td> <td align="right">81.8</td> <td align="right">42</td> <td align="right">262</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr data-row="9" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2004"> <td align="left">2004 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2004/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)*+</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">371</td> <td align="right">1697</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">4.6</td> <td align="right">106.1</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td align="right">245</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="10" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2005"> <td align="left">2005 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2005/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">220</td> <td align="right">735</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">3.3</td> <td align="right">61.3</td> <td align="right">24</td> <td align="right">118</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> </tbody> <tfoot> <tr data-row="11" class="stat_total"> <td align="left">Career</td> <td align="right">168</td> <td align="right">3518</td> <td align="right">14101</td> <td align="right">90</td> <td align="right">4.0</td> <td align="right">83.9</td> <td align="right">484</td> <td align="right">3329</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">29</td></tr></tfoot></table>


LOL. IF you think these are similar, you must think you look like Brad Pitt.

Using the "similar" rankings on PFR is stupid enough.

Looking at the 4th leading rusher of all time, and comparing him him to someone because they were somewhat close over a period is stupid. They base his stats on his career.

I never watched his career and thought "someday this guy will be in the Hall" like most did with Barry Sanders, but when you look at his career its CLEAR he belongs.

[Evil Vito]

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[Innovator]

I DONT CARE WHO OBAMA WANTS IN THE GAME, JESUS CHRIST

[Evil Vito]

Mark Herzlich is inactive :( not surprised but it would have been cool to see him out there. In more surprising news, Kevin Faulk is inactive.

[OssMan]

What was the deal with NBC playing salsa music after that catch, seriously

[Emperor Smeat]

Interesting tidbit from the recent Bill Simmons SB preview article.

According to him, Vegas is too afraid to have changed the odds for the SB even though the majority of the bets are for a Giants win due to both Brady winning 77% of all games he's played and it would have killed off all the pay outs expected for the -2.5 Pats and the +3.5 Giants.

The "Who Does Vegas Want To Win?" edge: Supposedly money poured in on Giants +3.5 and Giants +3 for the past 10 days, only they're terrified to move the line to "Pats by 2½" because, if the Pats covered that by three, they'd lose all the Pats -2.5 bets AND all the Giants +3.5 bets (in a repeat of Super Bowl XIII, the most famous gambling disaster in football history)

[Droford]

Patriots will win by 20+, it doesnt matter

[Innovator]

LET'S FUCKING GO

[Droford]

playing last years WM theme had me thinking that WWE could do WM in Indy next year

[Innovator]

Heard they were thinking of Metlife/Giants Stadium

[Droford]

well theres a Raven in Indy after all

[Innovator]

So what's the over/under on Kelly Clarkson's weight at Anthem time?

[RoXer]

170 last I checked

[RoXer]

Looks under

[Innovator]

Definitely around lightweight weight