NBA 2012 Off-Season Thread

[Emperor Smeat]

So there are rumblings that Ray Allen may in fact go to Miami?

Huh.

Yeah Cs won't resign him after Ainge talked about all the focus is on getting KG for 1 more year. Still some hints of the Cs using the money saved from Allen's contract for Josh Smith or making the bench better in depth.

Celtics tried to trade Allen during the season but nobody offered anything or wanted Rondo as well. Allen going to a new team means he can get a bit more money possible than the Cs can afford and a move to the Heat gives him a strong chance at another ring (or any other top team like the Thunder or Bulls).

[tgb]

I wasn't aware that losing to an 8 seed makes someone a top team. I have to think the Bulls are the most overrated team in the league. Even with a healthy Rose (overrated in his own right), they were clearly inferior to a Heat team that was JUST figuring things out, and Rose is hardly going to be 100% next season.

[Keith]

Yeah Cs won't resign him after Ainge talked about all the focus is on getting KG for 1 more year. Still some hints of the Cs using the money saved from Allen's contract for Josh Smith or making the bench better in depth.

Celtics tried to trade Allen during the season but nobody offered anything or wanted Rondo as well. Allen going to a new team means he can get a bit more money possible than the Cs can afford and a move to the Heat gives him a strong chance at another ring (or any other top team like the Thunder or Bulls).

If the Heat sign Ray Allen, they may just raise another banner next year.

[Triple Naitch]

NBA draft tonight. One of my favorite nights of the year. Love the trades, awkward 7'0 eastern European players, and the fat black mommas crying over their babies. Didn't even watch a single college game this year. No idea who any of these guys are.

[Keith]

James Harden may wind up in Charlotte, huh?

[DaveBrawl]

NBA draft tonight. One of my favorite nights of the year. Love the trades, awkward 7'0 eastern European players, and the fat black mommas crying over their babies. Didn't even watch a single college game this year. No idea who any of these guys are.

Same here. I know a few of the Kentucky guys as my brother is a big fan of big blue, but other than that nothing.

[Krimzon7]

Wow, fat black mommas? Interesting visuals here.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Ugh might have to become a Cavs fan if they somehow wind up with MKG.

[DaveWadding]

Whoa, apparently Jared Sullinger has bulging dicks. Thanks ESPN.

[CSL]

first NBA draft I've ever seen, only know who the unibrow guy is. And David Stern has Vickie Guerrero heat

[CSL]

really tho, how has he not fixed those eyebrows

[Crimson]

He's going to trend em..kids will have unibrows all over the country soon

[Crimson]

First black momma sighting!

[Skippord]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>MKG did not want to go to CHA</p>&mdash; russillo (@ryenarussillo) <a href="https://twitter.com/ryenarussillo/status/218490042216222720" data-datetime="2012-06-28T23:44:20+00:00">June 28, 2012</a></blockquote>

lol

[Triple Naitch]

MKG with the greatest post draft interview ever.

"Oh wow. Oh god. Wow."

[Triple Naitch]

Big fat black momma sighting.

[CSL]

pretty much watching to see any trades now :o

[Triple Naitch]

This guy the Kings got is amazing. I had to turn my volume up all the way to hear him. He's worse than Shaq.

[Emperor Smeat]

Celtics rumored to be pushing to get a draft trade done just to get Austin Rivers but they'd be giving up way too much to get him since its rumored to be both of their 1st round picks along with a potential Bradley or other young player and other picks.

[CSL]

oh Austin Rivers, I know him too. Basketball expert right here

[Crimson]

This guy the Kings got is amazing. I had to turn my volume up all the way to hear him. He's worse than Shaq.

Well he was sobbing. But yea these guys don't have the sharpest tounge

[Triple Naitch]

I have a theory that the more pronounceable a European player's name is, the better they turn out in the NBA.

Dirk Nowitzki, Tony Parker, Pau Gasol, Marc Gasol

Nikolov Tskitishvili, Maciej Lampe, Ndudi Ebi

[Triple Naitch]

Hornets are my big winners of this year's draft by drafting both of the players I've once heard of.

[Crimson]

Yea nice picks..the West is just getting more stacked

[Triple Naitch]

Just realized that the announcers are on the loud speaker in the arena.

Imagine being drafted and you hear Reece Davis mention that your dad died in a bicycle accident at the same time the biggest moment of your life happens. :'(

[Triple Naitch]

Jeremy Lamb's dad looks like Brother Mouzzone.

[Triple Naitch]

Nevermind. That wasn't Jeremy Lamb's dad.

[Triple Naitch]

This guy the Bucks drafted looks 14.

[Triple Naitch]

Sixers draft another small forward. :-\

In the night I hear em talkin coldest story ever told. How can you be so Harkless?

[RoXer]

Jeremy Lamb's dad looks like Brother Mouzzone.

I got it

[Emperor Smeat]

Nice Celtics took Jared Sullinger who according to ESPN really helps out with the porr rebounding the Cs have had the past few years.

ESPN's draft chat was hinting the Cs were taking Fab Melo instead which would have been horrible and yet a typical dumb Ainge draft move he does every year.

Edit: Nevermind Ainge found a way to be dumb and got Melo instead of Perry Jones (best available) or Will Barton (fits their need at SG).

[Emperor Smeat]

:rofl: Knicks

The fans go all crazy when they finally get to their pick since they finally show up on camera and then just silence followed by a ton of boos once the pick came in. One of the best things about the New York area hosting drafts is just what their reactions will be since they are the most vocal.

[RP]

Pacers are fucking stupid I guess. Perry Jones and Marquis Teague are available and that draft Miles Plumlee?

Come on.

[RP]

We love our white guys here in Indiana. Pau Gasol available? He's white! Get him!

[OssMan]

What is Bradley Beal

[Juan]

Darius Johnson-Odom

[RP]

What is Bradley Beal

African

[Juan]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6cwrhqa5e1rss0wyo1_500.png

[RP]

Thanks for dragging your dead carcass around for two months, Mike Miller. You can leave now.

[Krimzon7]

Jeremy Lamb's dad looks like Brother Mouzzone.

He may have a special jacketed nine millimeter round in his jacket pocket.

The dude did look like Mouzone.

#justfinishedwatchingthewireforthethirdtime

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Nice Celtics took Jared Sullinger who according to ESPN really helps out with the porr rebounding the Cs have had the past few years.

ESPN's draft chat was hinting the Cs were taking Fab Melo instead which would have been horrible and yet a typical dumb Ainge draft move he does every year.

Edit: Nevermind Ainge found a way to be dumb and got Melo instead of Perry Jones (best available) or Will Barton (fits their need at SG).

Jared looked similar in the videos of him playing to the way KG plays. Hopefully he'll be able to teach him if he stays on.

Melo seems to be a project piece. If he can be taught to give a shit he might be worth the effort. Two draft picks in the first round probably made Ainge think he could afford a risk.

Not sure how such a passionate team such as the Celtics could handle a player like Melo. Not looking good unless unless Doc Rivers can knock some sense into him.

[DaveWadding]

Maybe KG can fix Sullinger's other problem...

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[Emperor Smeat]

KG expected to make his initial decision on retiring or having 1 more year within the weekend. If he stays, he's expected to take a large pay cut ($21 million last season) but will also only play for Boston.

[Crimson]

Apparently MKG has a stuttering problem. That's why in the interview after he got drafted he didn't say anything. And Bill Simmons edited his column after mocking him a bit right after feeling bad.

[Gertner]

Jazz gets Mo Williams for basically nothing. Solid move.

[thecc]

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[Crimson]

Cuban looks like he wanted to strangle him

[Emperor Smeat]

KG returning for at least 1 more year with the Celtics after deciding not to retire and signed a 3 year $34 million deal.

He also agreed to a 50% pay cut to give the team $10 million extra in cap space for this season with the Cs rumored to be looking at OJ Mayo and a few others with that extra money saved.

Heat are currently rushing to get Ray Allen signed before a bidding war begins due to them only having $3 million available while teams like the Cs ($10 million + Bird rights), Phoenix ($20 million cap space), and others can match and go above anything Miami offers. Miami's biggest offering is promising him a lot of minutes as a potential 6th man and a good chance at another ring.

[Krimzon7]

Rings>money at this point in ray ray's life.

[Crimson]

I hear Boston will be offering double what Miami can. tough choice..hope he stays in Boston

[Emperor Smeat]

Grizzles officially join Boston and Miami in the Allen sweepstakes with Phoenix expected to officially join once Steve Nash's situation is done. Atlanta, Dallas, and the Clippers also rumored to involved or preparing to get involved.

Raptors offer Steve Nash a 3 year $36 million deal although the Mavs, Knicks, Nets, and Heat rumored to be involved in his sweepstakes.

Dwight Howard rumored to have told the Magic he wants to be traded to Brooklyn this offseason. His rumor doesn't hinge on Deron Williams staying since he's expected to be gone.

Nets themselves are going after Joe Johnson in a trade with Atlanta with the assumption Deron will leave. The Hawks rumored to be getting Jordan Farmar, Johan Petro, Anthony Morrow and Jordan Williams expiring contracts.

Portland going after Indiana's Roy Hibbert with a max contract offer of 4-year, $58 million deal.

[DaveWadding]

Lakers are looking into Lou Amundson. Can't wait to watch Joey RoXer cry, vomit, and root for the Lakers all at the same time.

[RoXer]

Noooooooooooooo

[SammyG]

God we are gonna suck

[Krimzon7]

God we already suck

[Krimzon7]

Joe Johnson to the Nets for a bunch of basket balls. THis mega trade is contingent upon Deron Williams resigning with Brooklyn.

Atlanta making a move to acquire Devin Harris from the Jazz. and Josh Smith is still on the chopping block.


OR...

WHAT SMELLY MEATBALL SAID

[alvarado52]

Yknow, i think we need improvements as a team, but overall the Lakers really just were badly coached. We can easily create a bench by placing either Gasol or Bynum on the bench, and move Artest to PF.

Most of all, Brown is playing Pau way out of his game.

[Juan]

The Brooklyn Nets and Atlanta Hawks have agreed in principle to a trade that will send Joe Johnson to Brooklyn for a few spare parts and a lottery-protected draft pick. The Nets are also expected to re-sign Deron Williams soon.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

When do the Nets try to trade for Spike Lee?

[Krimzon7]

What Krimzon 7 said.

[Krimzon7]

Devin Harris to the Jazz for Marvin Williams? The hawks came out like gang busters, but Josh Smith has gotta want to get out of dodge now. Two Dribble hogs do not make a good team.

Joe 'why the fuck do you have a max contract' Johnson is going to account for 40% of his teams salary cap in the last year of his deal! That's 2015! He's Thirty Fucking One!

The Nets are fucked and New Jersey has to be laughing their asses off

[Krimzon7]

HOLY SHIT.

Talks are popping off for D Howard to Nets for Brook lopez, Chris Humphries Marshonn Brooks and FOUR GODDAMN DRAFT PICKS!

That's a lot of ass to give up. 2012, 2013. 2014 and 2018

[Nark Order]

Orlando should jump on that trade before the Nets regret it, honestly.

[Nark Order]

Says there are 3 picks in 2013, 2015, and 2017 though.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Williams, Johnson, Howard would be a perfect Big 3 scenario though as far positions/skills. Way better than Miami's and probably better than Boston's.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Not saying the talent is greater cause clearly Miami's talent is the best, but the position fits are so perfect.

[Nark Order]

Yeah, I agree. They would be a pretty well balanced powerhouse of a team, it that is a whole lot to give up. I suppose there are risks to take when going for a championship, but if this doesn't work out or of Dwight's back acts up again, the Nets are fucked for a long time. But if it does work out, there a championship right around the corner. Not a ridiculously bad trade, but it is a whole lot to give up. Is say better for the Magic

[Triple Naitch]

hogs do not make a good team.

Joe 'why the fuck do you have a max contract' Johnson is going to account for 40% of his teams salary cap in the last year of his deal! That's 2015! He's Thirty Fucking One!

The Nets are fucked and New Jersey has to be laughing their asses off

Johnson is owed $90 million over the next 3 years.

[Krimzon7]

Johnson is owed $90 million over the next 3 years.

Yes, that fact is amazing alone. But his last year of the contract calls for him to make 24.5 million dollars, which comes to about 40%. It's ludacris to think Atlanta gave this fool that much coin.

[Dragon]

Jesus, Raptors completely screwed the Knicks chances of trading for Nash by offering Fields a $20M deal. Knicks can match the offer (which Fields isn't worth at all) but if they do they can't trade him. Chances are they let him walk now.

Pretty obvious they did it to block a Nash trade to the Knicks. Fields would have been the main piece to get Nash since apparently the Suns liked him.

If they offer Fields that I hate to think what teams will offer Lin.

[Next Big Thing]

I don't know if this is just more expert bullshit from ESPNs analysts, but the Hawks getting in on the Howard sweepstakes is interesting and kind of makes sense. Dwight's from Atlanta and was the best man at Josh Smith's wedding so I don't think they'd mind playing together. Horford, Teague and a few future first rounders is just as good talent wise as what the Nets would offer. Plus (again this is according to the ESPN "experts") the Hawks would still have room to make a run at Chris Paul next summer.

[Next Big Thing]

Can't lie, D Will, Howard, Johnson and Wallace is a pretty strong 4. Can you imagine how much better that team would be if Dwight wasn't so wishy washy and didn't opt into his contract with Orlando so they'd be able to sign him without giving up any talent?

[Emperor Smeat]

Hawks did clear a ton of cap space while the Nets basically admitted they can't afford Howard without severe cap penalties (used their cap exception on the Joe Johnson deal) or gutting more of their team to make room for Howard's salary like the rumored trade a few posts above.

Don't think he'd really want to go to Atlanta because most of the big stars these days only want to play for big markets (ex. LA, NY area) or attractive locations (ex. Miami) to form their Big Threes.

[Next Big Thing]

You're probably right. But Dallas was on his short list as well and that's not necessarily a big market or as attractive as Miami or L.A. either. I think Atlanta hasn't been much of a destination because ownership and management have been so incompetent for so long.

[Keith]

And people got on LeBron James for his "The Decision".

Dwight Howard should do a special called "The INdecision".

[Juan]

http://th06.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/336/5/1/dwight_howard_lakers_wallpaper_by_angelmaker666-d4hztj3.jpg

[Crimson]

Poor Juan..you can dream right

[Juan]

It's a long shot, but it's not totally out of the realm of possibility

[Emperor Smeat]

Nets resign Deron Williams with a 5 year, $98 million deal. If they barely had the money for Howard before, they definitely don't now unless they really gut the team badly just to come up with some minimum money for Howard. I think between Johnson and Williams, they eat up over 75% of the cap assuming its in the $61 million range next season. Already used up their smaller mid-level cap exception on Johnson with the Hawks deal.

Dallas preparing to go after Nash a lot harder than before since Williams is gone and even have plans to get Jeremy Lin if the Knicks hesitate too long.

Celtics rumored to be close to a deal with Mavs free agent Jason Terry while the Mavs admit they can't match any offers he receives. He would replace Ray Allen if Allen does leave.

[Juan]

This is gearing up to be a pretty eventful off-season. I love it

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Nets resign Deron Williams with a 5 year, $98 million deal. If they barely had the money for Howard before, they definitely don't now unless they really gut the team badly just to come up with some minimum money for Howard. I think between Johnson and Williams, they eat up over 75% of the cap assuming its in the $61 million range next season. Already used up their smaller mid-level cap exception on Johnson with the Hawks deal.

Dallas preparing to go after Nash a lot harder than before since Williams is gone and even have plans to get Jeremy Lin if the Knicks hesitate too long.

Celtics rumored to be close to a deal with Mavs free agent Jason Terry while the Mavs admit they can't match any offers he receives. He would replace Ray Allen if Allen does leave.

Succeed not replace. Never replace.

[owenbrown]

http://th06.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/336/5/1/dwight_howard_lakers_wallpaper_by_angelmaker666-d4hztj3.jpg

Either Juan is reading too many Bill Plaschke columns or Juan IS Bill Plaschke

[Emperor Smeat]

Knicks appear to be very unlikely in keeping Jeremy Lin now that the Rockets are about to offer a contract while the Knicks admit their focus is just for Nash.

Knicks are also looking for a third team in a potential Nash deal since the Knicks do not have enough assets to please the Suns with the Raptors rumored to be a potential 3rd team. Lakers did make a small offer but was rejected due to the Suns unwilling to trade within he division.

[Skippord]

Steve Nash to the Lakers, didn't see that one coming

[Juan]

YES

[owenbrown]

Ban Request: SammyG

[ClockShot]

What the hell Knickerbockers. DO SOMETHING ALREADY!

DAMMIT, WHY DID DONNIE WALSH HAVE TO GO?!

[Triple Naitch]

Biggest loser in this is Toronto, since now they are screwed with Landry Fields and have no leverage on the Knicks.

[Triple Naitch]

Spencer Hawes coming back. :Pretty: :cool:

[Emperor Smeat]

Stupid ESPN saying the Suns were not interested in the Lakers offer only for the Suns to actually make a deal hours later with the Lakers.

Suns gets both draft picks in 2013 from the Lakers, a 2014 2nd round pick, and a 2015 first round pick while the Lakers get Nash but also his new 3 year $25+ million deal.

Knicks seemed to have the better package for actual players though but I guess they waited too long or wanted a 3rd team involved. A bit surprised he didn't go to Dallas and reunite with Dirk for one last title push opportunity.

[RoXer]

Knicks seemed to have the better package for actual players though

Not really. It was Iman Shumpert and not much else. I prefer the draft picks over him and the crappy players they would have thrown in.

And I would have preferred Toronto's draft picks over the Lakers. I would also prefer it if Nash didn't go to the Lakers. Actually if beggars can be choosers I would prefer it if Nash didn't go anywhere at all and we can redo the past 10 years with a decent owner.

[alvarado52]

"Sources have told http://ESPN.com that Steve Nash will try to convince Grant Hill to join him with the Lakers."


http://www.prosportsdaily.com/articles/grant-hill-next-to-sign-with-the-lakers-684539.html

[Juan]

Michael Beasley has committed to sign with Phoenix Suns on a three-year, $18 mil, sources close to situation tell ESPN :-\

[Juan]

Suns also bringing back Goran Dragic. 4 years, $34 million

[Juan]

Eric Gordon and the Phoenix Suns have agreed to terms on a maximum-salaried contract worth $58 million over four years.

[Ermaximus]

Adios Asik.

[Crimson]

Huge move by the Lakers there..back in the mix for sure for the finals.

[Keith]

The Lakers are poised to get back to the NBA Finals, and they know that in order to beat OKC, they had to make some moves.

I wonder if they would still be able to (hypothetically) trade for Dwight Howard.

[alvarado52]

From everything I've read, the Magic pretty much just want to trade with LA. It's the only team that would give them a legit talent at the position they are trading. Lakers and Magic would do it, but the question is will Howard sign an extension.

[Skippord]

Jason Kidd to the Knicks, POINT GUARDZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[Emperor Smeat]

Between last offseason and this one so far, Dallas probably won't be a title contender anytime soon or at least provide Dirk with the help he needs like during their title season.

Clippers drop their interest in Ray Allen and instead resign Chancey Billups while signing Jamal Crawford. Chris Paul did lobby for Allen but the Clips declined at the last moment.

Speaking of Ray Allen, ESPN is saying its now between Miami and Boston for his sweepstakes with everyone else beginning to drop or not doing enough to sway him. Miami can only offer him $3 million but with the promise of being their 6th man and a chance at a ring while Boston can easily double his salary and make the same claims. Boston also has the benefit of Ray's mom stating before she really loves the area and would like to stay.

Magic resigned Jameer Nelson but wasn't revealed the amount or years in the new deal.

[Juan]

Wow

lol @ Mark Cuban tho

[owenbrown]

2012-2013 NBA Season*

[Supreme Olajuwon]

2012-2013 NBA Season*

You only come in here to bitch.

[owenbrown]

You only come in here to tell me I only come in here to bitch :roll:

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Maybe if you added something of value to this thread instead of just whining about the things you see on ESPN I wouldn't have to.

[owenbrown]

Well maybe if the NBA would stop trying to be the WWE, I wouldn't bitch so much.

[owenbrown]

Plus, I am still tired of the Heat/Lakers/Celtics/Spurs in the Finals every year :n:

[CSL]

Well maybe if the NBA would stop trying to be the WWE, I wouldn't bitch so much.

what does this mean

[owenbrown]

Champions since 1999:

'99: Spurs def. Knicks
'00-'02: Lakers def. Pacers, Sixers, & Nets
'03: Spurs def. Nets
'04: Pistons def. Lakers
'05: Spurs def. Pistons
'06: Heat def. Mavericks
'07: Spurs def. Cavs
'08: Celtics def. Lakers
'09-'10 Lakers def. Magic & Celtics
'11: Mavs def. Heat
'12: Heat def. Thunder

So...

Lakers 5 titles in 7 appearances
Spurs 4 in 4 appearances
Heat 2 in 3 appearances
Mavs, Pistons, and Celtics 1 in 2 appearances each

6 teams accounting for the last 14 championships 2 of which account for 9 of them. I think it's time for a change. Take a break from dynasties.

[ClockShot]

Kidd to the Knicks, eh. I'll be shocked if he plays all 3 years of the deal.

[CSL]

so you mean it's like most sports, where a few teams, usually "powerhouses" or big markets etc, tend to do well over a certain period of time with some dropping in and out

[CSL]

every sport ever is like WWE

[CSL]

god I wish it really was, Lebron gets the ball down by a point with seconds left in the NBA Finals, David Stern run in with a steel chair and lays him out

[ClockShot]

Thunder grabbed Hasheem Thabeet. If he can become the monster he was in UConn, OKC can give the Lakers a run for their money, maybe get them the championship they missed out on this season.

[CSL]

Steve Nash as a Laker takes his jersey off to reveal a Knicks jersey and throws a game winning assist to Melo before walking away gurning at the fans

[owenbrown]

no CSL, when it comes to that, I am starting to subscribe to the theory that the NBA is fixing games for large market teams to get more money and television ratings

[DaveBrawl]

I agree with Owen. It's Denver's turn at the top.

[owenbrown]

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/messages/chrono/36872148/0/0/36873130

[CSL]

no CSL, when it comes to that, I am starting to subscribe to the theory that the NBA is fixing games for large market teams to get more money and television ratings

then you are fucking retarded, sorry

do you wear a foil hat as well?

[DaveBrawl]

Actually Denver was key to the whole WWE deal a couple of years ago so as the cornerstone of this theory they deserve a title.

[DaveBrawl]

They even rock the Nugget nickname.

Enough is enough and it's time for a change...in champions.

[CSL]

Stan Kroenke beats David Stern to take control of the NBA when Kevin Durant runs in and turns heel, shocking the world and becoming his top star. the Nugget World Order forms and they dominate for the next 5 years. ratings ratings ratings

[CSL]

it's the best thing owenbrown has ever suggested

[DaveBrawl]

I love this idea on so many levels.

[CSL]

probably going to have to bring Michael Jordan out of retirement for the blowoff match where the nWo is finally defeated

[DaveBrawl]

We're not the Dream Team. We're the Mean Team.

[CSL]

I'm a bit sad this isn't real now :(

[owenbrown]

then you are fucking retarded, sorry

do you wear a foil hat as well?

no I think they need new refs and or a new commisioner that isn't crooked. I am tired of the big 4 leagues being too much about money and television ratings and should be a little bit more about the fans that pay to see these overpaid athletes and overpaid referees who don't wanna see the bullshit we saw in this years playoffs.

[CSL]

no Christian Laettner tho, nobody cares about Christian Laettner

[owenbrown]

Also, I stand by my thoughts on flopping that players who do and get caught should automatically be ejected and face suspension and fines

[Corporate CockSnogger]

no I think they need new refs and or a new commisioner that isn't crooked. I am tired of the big 4 leagues being too much about money and television ratings and should be a little bit more about the fans that pay to see these overpaid athletes and overpaid referees who don't wanna see the bullhttp://www.smileyvault.com/albums/forum/smileyvault-censored.gif we saw in this years playoffs.

There may be underage guests viewing, owen. Please be more considerate with your language.

[CSL]

pottymouth

[DaveBrawl]

I'm a bit sad this isn't real now :(

Me too, and now next season will be an even bigger disappointment compared to this.

[DaveBrawl]

no Christian Laettner tho, nobody cares about Christian Laettner

You always need the loser kid to get killed or maimed to inspire the rest of the team to win. That's Laettner's role.

[DaveBrawl]

Also, I stand by my thoughts on flopping that players who do and get caught should automatically be ejected and face suspension and fines

Ric Flair would not have finished a roadtrip in owenbrown's NBA.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Also, I stand by my thoughts on flopping that players who do and get caught should automatically be ejected and face suspension and fines

Since this has come up and I'm paying a rare visit to this thread... In my game earlier this evening we were playing a team of Spanish lads who flopped at any given oppurtunity. At one point I was hustling for the ball with one of their players when he went down like he'd been shot. One of his teammates confronted me about it quite aggressively so I gave him the Scott Hall/Supreme "spooky" taunt and walked away :cool:

[DaveBrawl]

Since this has come up and I'm paying a rare visit to this thread... In my game earlier this evening we were playing a team of Spanish lads who flopped at any given oppurtunity. At one point I was hustling for the ball with one of their players when he went down like he'd been shot. One of his teammates confronted me about it quite aggressively so I gave him the Scott Hall/Supreme "spooky" taunt and walked away :cool:

Did you finish it up with the moonwalk like Supreme's post does?

[Crimson]

Hope Lin signs with the Rockets just to make the Knicks look pathetic in not being able to sign anyone they want. While the Yankees sign whomever they want.

[Crimson]

Does the Kidd signing mean they're still going after Lin ??

[Emperor Smeat]

Probably will since the Knicks lost out on Nash although you have to consider the Mavs are really going to push a lot harder to get Lin now that Kidd and Williams are both gone as options.

That is assuming Lin rejects the Rockets offer at the moment though or the Knicks match the offer.

[Dragon]

Does the Kidd signing mean they're still going after Lin ??

Yeah. I think the biggest reason they went Kidd instead of Felton is to have someone to mentor Lin.

Apparently Lin and the Rockets agreed to a 3 year/$19.5M offer sheet with a team option worth 9.3M for the 4th year. So the Knicks have 3 days to match after July 11th.

There is no way the Knicks don't match that now. Glad that it didn't get crazier than this though. People were saying teams were gonna offer him close to $40M.

[Dragon]

Still, thats a great payday for 2 months of good play.

[Skippord]

Stan Kroenke beats David Stern to take control of the NBA when Kevin Durant runs in and turns heel, shocking the world and becoming his top star. the Nugget World Order forms and they dominate for the next 5 years. ratings ratings ratings
softly weeping as I think about this

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Woo can't wait for the all the "Chinese Rocket" jokes when Lin plays with Houston.

[SammyG]

MAKE IT NASHTY BITCHES

[Scott Roberts]

Don't see the Knicks resigning Jeremy Lin.

And you can take that shit to the bank, or else my name isn't Scott Roberts.

[RoXer]

MAKE IT NASHTY BITCHES

shut up

[Krimzon7]

Owenbrown, you're on one for sure. There is parity in the NFL because there is a single elimination playoff. New Orleans, New York, Indianapolis, New England, Green Bay, Denver, St. Louis, and even fucking Pittsburgh have all won championships during that timespan. Yes, Denver, New England, New York and Pittsburgh have won multiple Titles, but of this group New England and New York are the only big market teams. There is parity in the NFL. There may or may not be parity in baseball, I dunno (who can watch that game for six months? 132 games? fuck that). The NBA is going to have teams win multiple titles in runs...best of 7 series is designed for the better overall team to win. Less upsets brah.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>owenbrown kinda has a point. Not that it's fixed or anything but with the same team consistently in the finals. In general the NBA is easily the most predictable of the 4 major North American sports. It's about a year from the Finals and you can already narrow it down to about 5-6 teams that may have a realistic shot at winning. Even that might be generous. As opposed to other sports where there are like 15+ contenders heading in.

It's just hard to get excited for a season when you know that the most you can hope for is to get out of the first round of the playoffs.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Also I'm glad the Knicks didn't give Lin that big of a contract. It's just way too much money for too small a sample size.

lol @ everybody who spent big bucks on authentic Lin jerseys though. Too risky to get a jersey for a flash in the pan guy.</font>

[Skippord]

the Knicks still will give Lin that big of a contract

[Evil Vito]

They're idiots if they match that offer. Too much. Would be a great move for Lin though since he'll make a shitload in endorsements.

[Krimzon7]

THey'll match that offer because they just signed the best point guard coach in NBA history.

[Ermaximus]

Lin won't leave the Knicks. He's part of their states 2 man circus. Lin and Tebow are draws for the state of New York.

[Emperor Smeat]

Owenbrown, you're on one for sure. There is parity in the NFL because there is a single elimination playoff. New Orleans, New York, Indianapolis, New England, Green Bay, Denver, St. Louis, and even fucking Pittsburgh have all won championships during that timespan. Yes, Denver, New England, New York and Pittsburgh have won multiple Titles, but of this group New England and New York are the only big market teams. There is parity in the NFL. There may or may not be parity in baseball, I dunno (who can watch that game for six months? 132 games? fuck that). The NBA is going to have teams win multiple titles in runs...best of 7 series is designed for the better overall team to win. Less upsets brah.

Agree with parity being easier in the NFL but it doesn't completely explain why baseball and hockey who also use the Best-of-Seven format have been able to produce more champions in both small and big market areas.

NBA probably is partially fixed or at least the lottery has to be while Stern has said a lot of times he favors a superstar driven league than team based. Just so happens majority of those superstars only want to play for big market or attractive cities.

Spurs are the only team to have won the title without having stars arrive in droves, be an established big market, or be an attractive place to play in recent decades.

[Skippord]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Its 2:30am in London and I was just woken up with great news.Welcome to the family #20!!</p>&mdash; Micky Arison (@MickyArison) <a href="https://twitter.com/MickyArison/status/221416768030248962" data-datetime="2012-07-07T01:34:05+00:00">July 7, 2012</a></blockquote>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Ray Allen signs with the Heat. Better luck in 2013-14, rest of the NBA.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeup took the less money and overall playing time just to have the best chance at a ring. Also gave up having a no-trade clause which he was offered by the Cs so if the Heat don't win next year, they can just dump him.

Big rumor that came out of nowhere and might have hinted at Ray leaving involved Ray Allen not getting along with Rondo recently.

Only good side for the Cs is now they have an extra $6+ million to commit to other free agents. Nevermind, just found out they don't since Allen was under the "Bird's Rights", all they have left is in the $2 million range just like Miami has left.

[Keith]

Ray Allen has turned heel and joined the H.E.A.T.

[Dragon]

the Knicks still will give Lin that big of a contract

Yeah, there really is no chance they don't match that contract. And they should. With Melo-Amare-Chandler and the rest of the guys they have under contract they aren't far away from the cap. So its not like if they don't sign him they have that money to spend elsewhere.

Lin will make a lot of money for the Knicks even when he isn't as great as he was last year during that stretch.

One thing I like is that the whole Knicks team is basically signed for 3 years now. Gives them 3 years to do something with this team and if it isn't working they will have a clean slate.

[alvarado52]

used to have total respect for Allen, even when he put on that Celts jersey. Not so much anymore.

[Nark Order]

Oh, stop. Tons of people are saying something similar about Steve Nash right now. They want a run at a championship.

[Ermaximus]

The Heat are still a bunch of douchebags.

[Keith]

used to have total respect for Allen, even when he put on that Celts jersey. Not so much anymore.

*Tony Schiavone voice*

"You can go straight to hell, Allen"

[Next Big Thing]

used to have total respect for Allen, even when he put on that Celts jersey. Not so much anymore.

Why did you lose respect for him? Miami is paying him less money and he's coming off the bench. It's not like he was pining to go to Boston anyways. Seattle traded him there.

Dude has been in the league 15 years and you didn't even hear about him spitting on the sidewalk. No dirty play, no PEDs, no DUIs, but now he isn't respectable because he chose to go to the team that gave him the best chance to win another title for less money than Boston was offering? Come on mane!

[Next Big Thing]

What's Dwight going to do now? If the Magic don't trade him to the Nets, they won't have the cap room to sign him in the offseason. Dallas was his second pick. They missed out on Williams and they pretty much had everyone except Dirk jump ship. I don't know how attractive that situation looks now.

He might as well take a trade to L.A. and go for a championship with Nash and Kobe. Bynum's a little bit better offensively, but Dwight's a more consistent defender, which the Lakers need. Plus, Bynum checks out from time to time and I'm not sure Mike Brown can reel him in.

[Emperor Smeat]

Its most likely between the Nets and Lakers even though ESPN is saying the Rockets, Hawks, and Mavs are also involved. Celtics seemed to be rumored on and off for Dwight but nothing serious after Dwight resigned for the short term.

Nets biggest problem is money (cap and salary) while the Lakers biggest problem is draft picks considering how few they have left for the next couple of years. Nets have no chance once Dwight hits free agency though which is why their current offer is 3 draft picks (all 1st rounders) and 3 decent to good players.

[SammyG]

When has Ray Allen ever shown loyalty... come on.

[Skippord]

no professional athlete is loyal

[Keith]

He helped the Celtics win a Title after more than a decade without winning one, if he wants to leave, let him leave. He went to Boston and did what he was expected to do, help the team win.

Also, why would players be loyal to teams? Teams will never take "loyalty" into consideration and will trade and/or release guys without much thought. So why should a player stick around and be "loyal" when teams have the "what have you done for me lately" mentality?

If a player is offered more money elsewhere, or they just want a change of scenery, good for them.

[Scott Roberts]

Making a quick "Scott Roberts Exclusive" bold prediction.

Jeremy Lin will resign with the Knicks in order to be mentored by Jason Kidd. The Knicks will make too much money on Lin to not resign him.

[alvarado52]

Why did you lose respect for him? Miami is paying him less money and he's coming off the bench. It's not like he was pining to go to Boston anyways. Seattle traded him there.

Dude has been in the league 15 years and you didn't even hear about him spitting on the sidewalk. No dirty play, no PEDs, no DUIs, but now he isn't respectable because he chose to go to the team that gave him the best chance to win another title for less money than Boston was offering? Come on mane!

Because he still very much had a chance at a ring with the Celts. He's played there for awhile now. To just up and jump on the wagon so you can ride the bench to a potential championship should be reserved for people like Juwan Howard.

Nash isn't coming off the bench, nor is he leaving a contender behind which he played a significant role.

[tgb]

Because he still very much had a chance at a ring with the Celts. He's played there for awhile now. To just up and jump on the wagon so you can ride the bench to a potential championship should be reserved for people like Juwan Howard.

Nash isn't coming off the bench, nor is he leaving a contender behind which he played a significant role.


Hate to be the one to break this to ya, but the Celtics aren't contenders. If you don't believe me, just wait until next season. Bookmark this post if you'd like and refer to it when the time comes.

[alvarado52]

pretty sure i heard that a couple years back when they had a sub-par season, then proceeded to make an incredible run in the playoffs. Just because they've aged doesnt mean theyre not a threat to win everytime they play.

[tgb]

pretty sure i heard that a couple years back when they had a sub-par season, then proceeded to make an incredible run in the playoffs. Just because they've aged doesnt mean theyre not a threat to win everytime they play.

If the Celtics make it past the 2nd round next season, I will literally eat my hat, live on cam.

[Emperor Smeat]

Celtics join the growing list of teams who want Houston's Courtney Lee but similar to the Bulls, it has to be a sign-and-trade deal but the Rockets don't mind. They also don't mind if the same is done to Marcus Camby since the team stated they don't want either player returning next year.

Minnesota, Indy, Atlanta, Dallas, and Phoenix also are interested in Lee while Miami and New York prefer Camby.


Current trade rumor from Yahoo involving the Magic and Lakers would send Dwight and Turkoglu while the Magic would get Ron Artest and Bynum. The big catch is the trade wouldn't involve either Dwight or Bynum getting an extension which means they could leave after the next year. A few places are rumoring Bynum wouldn't consider returning to LA after the season if he's traded to begin with.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1251425-nba-rumors-magic-should-trade-dwight-howard-for-andrew-bynum-without-extension

[alvarado52]

Would be stupid on the Lakers or Magics part to trade if you're not getting a commitment from the key players involved.

[Keith]

Because he still very much had a chance at a ring with the Celts. He's played there for awhile now.

To just up and jump on the wagon so you can ride the bench to a potential championship should be reserved for people like Juwan Howard.




So he could still win a ring with the Celtics, yet he decided to go to Miami, where he can also win a ring.

Ok.

Let's face it, anyone who says "I lost respect for him" is a Boston fan. He did nothing wrong. He went to Boston and helped the team win a title.

Fuck him for wanting a change of scenery and environment.

[alvarado52]

sorry buddy, bleed purple and gold here buddy. No love for the Celts, but i appreciate the game. Just calling it how i see it. If he wanted a change of scenery, he could have went to plenty of places other than Miami.

[Skippord]

lol what?

HE SHOULD GO TO MEMPHIS IF HE WANTS A CHANGE OF SCENERY

[alvarado52]

.....buddy.

[alvarado52]

i mean if we're talking scenery here. Like i said, i just felt like he was a competitor. To leave a team where you were a key player, a starter, and had just as much an opportunity to win a championship seems like a cop out.

[Keith]

i mean if we're talking scenery here. Like i said, i just felt like he was a competitor. To leave a team where you were a key player, a starter, and had just as much an opportunity to win a championship seems like a cop out.

Ok so Ray Allen could under no circumstance leave the Celtics because he was a starter and a key player.

Get outta here. It's not like he pulled a "Gary Payton" or a "Karl Malone" and signed with a winning team because he couldn't win a Championship with the team he was playing for.

Hell, it's not even like he pulled a "LeBron" and left the team that drafted him in order to go to another team and try to win a Title there.

You're a Laker fan, I get it. You don't want the Heat to sign good players that may help them repeat as Champions, I get it.

But don't come out and say that because Allen was a starter and key player in Boston, him leaving makes you lose respect for him.

[alvarado52]

I agree on all those examples. Just seems like saying youre gonna take less money to play for your rival team and win a championship is a weak thing. I dunno, guess im just old school in that thought process.

[Keith]

He owed nothing to the Celtics. If he resigned and missed a step or two, or became expandable, Boston would've traded him without much thought, and without taking into consideration that he helped them win a Title, that he was a starter, or that he was a key player. They would've kicked him out the door as we've seen so many other teams do in all sports.

So good for him.

[Scott Roberts]

Gonna make a "Scott Roberts Guarantee" here and say that at some point this season Ray Allen will make a three point shot for the Miami Heat against the Boston Celtics

[Ermaximus]

I think every team should just merge into 1 "superteam" against the Heat and just play each other all year.

Granted then it'd be like watching the Harlem Globetrotters play the Generals and that gets old fast.

[Next Big Thing]

I still don't think the Heat are invincible or will come close to doing what the Bulls did in the 90s. If the Cavs do help the Nets land Howard, I think Miami would have a hard time matching up with them.

Can't count Boston out either. They added Jason Terry and Jared Sullinger was predicted to go top 5 before those issues about his back came up. I think the only reason he dropped as far down as he did was because no doctor wanted to sign off on the next Greg Oden.

[Keith]

TBH I was happy the Heat won the Championship, but I didn't walk away from the Finals thinking "The Heat were definitely the best team". Actually, I can't shake off the perception that they "squeaked one out" and that OKC was the best team of the two.

So Miami definitely has to make some changes, and adding Ray Allen was a very good start.

I mean, the "big three" is now a "big four". That's not too shabby.

[Innovator]

i mean if we're talking scenery here. Like i said, i just felt like he was a competitor. To leave a team where you were a key player, a starter, and had just as much an opportunity to win a championship seems like a cop out.

You mean the same team who tried to trade him at least 3 different times?

[Keith]

You mean the same team who tried to trade him at least 3 different times?

Haha exactly. Fuck him for not being loyal to that team.

[Emperor Smeat]

TBH I was happy the Heat won the Championship, but I didn't walk away from the Finals thinking "The Heat were definitely the best team". Actually, I can't shake off the perception that they "squeaked one out" and that OKC was the best team of the two.

So Miami definitely has to make some changes, and adding Ray Allen was a very good start.

I mean, the "big three" is now a "big four". That's not too shabby.

OKC might be a great team but their inexperience in really big games really showed up badly in the Finals. Same happened last year against the Mavs in the West Finals since that was the first time Durrant and crew reached that far into the playoffs.

Don't think Ray Allen is going to have the same level of status he had with Boston to make Miami have a Big 4. Only reason Boston had the nicknames of the Big 3 plus Rondo or the Big 4 was because all of them were on the court at the same time and in critical situations. Ray Allen is basically going to be like Mike Miller and nobody gave him any "Big" status.

[Crimson]

Plus Allen's defense will be a liability so he might not even be in there in the final minutes of a close game..maybe for offense only after a timeout. But Miami will keep attracting those vets as long as Lebron is there giving them a chance.

I hope the Nets land Howard because as of right now besides Boston, nobody will beat the Heat

[Crimson]

in the east -_-

[Emperor Smeat]

Plus Allen's defense will be a liability so he might not even be in there in the final minutes of a close game..maybe for offense only after a timeout. But Miami will keep attracting those vets as long as Lebron is there giving them a chance.

I hope the Nets land Howard because as of right now besides Boston, nobody will beat the Heat

Yeah Wade basically is the "Ray Allen" of the Heat when it comes to doing the stuff Ray did with the Cs in game ending situations. Even Battier was in charge of the critical 3 point shooting before Miller became red hot late in the playoffs and Lebron is used for the critical FT situations.

[Krimzon7]

Maimi Heat signed a player. The player was Ray Allen, who played for the Celtics. He fulfilled his contract, HE WON THEM A TITLE, he has done all he set out to do with them and he was sick of the petulent Rajon Rondo. He took his talents to South Beach. He didn't go to the Lakers (bostons TRUE Rival), or New York. He went to the third most hated team in Boston Celtic Lore. Please get over it guys and get ready to shine The Heat's new rings for next year

[Juan]

Fuck the Heat. Fuck the Celtics.

[Nark Order]

I'm really not seeing what Ray Allen did wrong here.

[Keith]

And now the Heat are close to signing Rashard Lewis.

And Grant Hill is retiring.

[Emperor Smeat]

Magic might pull out of the Howard-Bynum trade deal if Bynum refuses to sign an extension with the Lakers to create the sign-and-trade deal. If that falls, Rockets already set to make a trade offer for Howard.

Even though Bynum hinted he wouldn't return to the Lakers if traded, the Magic do not want to be stuck with a 1-year rental while the Lakers get Howard for basically "nothing" especially if Bynum were to reconsider and go back to them after a season.

[Krimzon7]

I'm really not seeing what Lebron James did wrong here.

yeah, me neither but they gave the guy a lot of shit for leaving his team as a free agent.

He wanted to put himself in the best position to win a title, and his old team wasn't winning anything anytime soon.

[Triple Naitch]

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/539828_10151951456725341_13974925_n.jpg

What a heel pic.

[Emperor Smeat]

All that is left is for Nash to cut an in-court promo in Phoenix trashing the Suns and he'd become Hollywood Nash.

[Keith]

Hehe it does look kinda heelish.

[Ermaximus]

I really hope Gasol ends up in Chicago.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

because you love the Bulls and the Hawks and the Pacers and the Magic and the Clippers and the Bucks and the Grizzlies and the Supersonics

they're you're favorite teams!

[Keith]

I'm still hoping the Bulls somehow jump in on the Dwight Howard sweepstakes.

[Juan]

https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/603547_10151953379070341_1871843258_n.jpg

[alvarado52]

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/532271_10151953912245341_1649153913_n.jpg

[CSL]

didn't realize Steve Nash was so boss-eyed

[CSL]

looks like somebody has just twatted him with a shovel only his brain hasn't realized it yet

[Wehttam]

ugh, 10

[Wehttam]

and he has awesome court vision so it's an advantage

[Keith]

So now we know how he makes so many passes and assists.

It's all because if his eyes! He looks to both sides of the court without turning his head!

[Ermaximus]

because you love the Bulls and the Hawks and the Pacers and the Magic and the Clippers and the Bucks and the Grizzlies and the Supersonics

they're you're favorite teams!

No, just the Bulls I assure you.

Keith, I really don't want Howard in Chicago. Yes he's good and all, but he's a huge problem and the Bulls don't need that shit.

[Next Big Thing]

I think his problem is more of his relationship with the Magic management and less about him as a player or anything he does off the court. Orlando really did fuck up a lot of things around him and Otis Smith should have been fired for that Gilbert Arenas debacle alone. It also doesn't help when you have executive drunk dialing dude in the middle of the night. Also, Van Gundy not getting along with players isn't really anything new. There's a reason why Miami let him go and it wasnt just because Pat Riley was itching to coach again.

A't the same time, Dwight put Orlando in a bad spot by announcing in December that he wanted to be traded and publicly naming the teams. He screwed himself worse when he opted into his final year. No sympathy for either side really.

At this point, I think the Lakers or the Hawks have the inside track to get him and I'm leaning towards the Hawks. The Lakers were one of the four teams on his original shortlist and now that he knows he has no chance in hell of playing for Brooklyn, I don't see why Dwight would have a problem going to a team he originally wanted to go to and playing with Kobe and Nash, who still probably have at least two seasons of great play in them.

If Dwight is concerned about his legacy and wants to go to a team where he will go down as the greatest player in franchise history, Atlanta makes sense. Plus, Horford is an all star who played for the Gators and Teague is a better PG than Nelson. Dwight's from Atlanta, is best friends with Josh Smith and the Hawks will have money and have enough attractive pieces at guard to get Chris Paul in a mid season sign and trade if he makes it known to the Clippers that he wants out or they can just get him as a FA.

[SammyG]

God I have had it with this stupid D12 shit. Just go somewhere.

[Krimzon7]

God I have had it with this stupid D12 shit. Just go somewhere.

right, unless he goes to LA, then we'll have enough of your shit

[alvarado52]

Yknow, I dont even want the dude in LA anymore. At first, when he showed interest and hid his immaturity well, sure...who the hell wouldnt want him on the squad. But for me, it was always about getting a solid C who just wanted to win.

The way Dwight has gone about this whole thing, from day one...it wouldnt be any better than the immature center the Lakers already have.

The Lakers FO should just pull out of the D12 run, and build us a bench with what we can. The starting 5 (with the Nash upgrade) will compete, its the bench that tends to cause issues.

[Triple Naitch]

Kwame Brown signs with the Sixers. :'(

[McLegend]

That's the piece we need. 2013 Champions right here.

[Juan]

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[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Jason Kidd arrested for drunk driving. LOL Knicks...always and forever.

Anyway though, good move in getting Felton. I still maintain that Lin is not worth the amount of money Houston is offering. They'll lose nothing with Felton at the point.</font>

[DaveWadding]

Suns amnesty Josh Childress (still owed $21 million over the next 3 years - not bad for a benchwarmer) & win the amnesty wire bidding for Luis Scola.

PG - Dragic
SG - Mayo *
SF - Beasley
PF - Scola
C - Gortat

I like it.

[RoXer]

"Should we re-sign Amare Stoudemire?"

"Nah. Let's go out and get Josh Childress, Hakeem Warrick, and Hedo Turkoglu!"

[RoXer]

god damnit

[Juan]

Antawn Jamison expected to sign with the Lakers once he returns to the United States from vacation later this week.

[Krimzon7]

OJ Mayo signs with the Dallas Mavericks. Sorry to bust up your Starting 5 DaveWadding

[Triple A]

gay

[Ermaximus]

Kyle Korver traded to the Hawks for cash and possible draft picks. Shit.

[SammyG]

lol possibly Jermaine O'Neal a laker. jesus.

[Emperor Smeat]

ESPN stating the reason the Knicks rejected matching Jeremy Lin's offer from the Rockets wasn't because of money but because of the petty reason of management still pissed at him being injured before the playoffs while blaming him for being selfish for not playing at 85% healthy.


Lakers making another strong push for Howard with Howard still wanting Brooklyn to make an offer and teasing a bit that he doesn't want to go to Houston. Magic still considering dropping the discussion if Bynum refuses to commit to a longer term deal should the trade be done.


OJ Mayo signs with the Dallas Mavericks. Sorry to bust up your Starting 5 DaveWadding

Celtics really wanted Mayo but not surprised at Ainge failing to make a good offer since he was too busy being dumb as usual.

[Innovator]

Fucking Knicks. All my sports karma from the Giants and Yankees carries over to them.

[Innovator]

It goes right into Dolan being an idiot.

[SammyG]

Dwight will be a Laker within the next 2-3 days prolly. Gut feeling.

[Next Big Thing]

Everything about Lin feels fraudulent to me. Most of his numbers were against terrible teams, or veteran teams that he was able to surprise because in a shortened season they probably aren't going to over exert themselves against the lowly Knicks. The second time he went up against Deron Williams he got embarrassed. The 85% claim is bullshit too. Miami exposed him and he knew if he played in that playoff game it would hurt his free agency because he would get eaten alive again.

Plus, dude turned down an opportunity to vie for a spot on Team USA. Again, I think it was due to him not wanting to get exposed playing with and against top tier talent. Superstars don't go undrafted, get cut by two teams and then only get playing time because they were the best of what was left. He's the NBA's version of Doug Flutie.

[Krimzon7]

Dwight will be a Laker within the next 2-3 days prolly. Gut feeling.


FUCK YOUR GUT FEELING :foc:

D12 is such a bitch, I hate his guts. He deserves to end up in CHarlotte going 0-82. He deserves as much hatred as Lebron gets/got.

Everything about Lin feels fraudulent to me. Most of his numbers were against terrible teams, or veteran teams that he was able to surprise because in a shortened season they probably aren't going to over exert themselves against the lowly Knicks. The second time he went up against Deron Williams he got embarrassed. The 85% claim is bullshit too. Miami exposed him and he knew if he played in that playoff game it would hurt his free agency because he would get eaten alive again.

Plus, dude turned down an opportunity to vie for a spot on Team USA. Again, I think it was due to him not wanting to get exposed playing with and against top tier talent. Superstars don't go undrafted, get cut by two teams and then only get playing time because they were the best of what was left. He's the NBA's version of Doug Flutie.

NBT, don't hold back...I need your true feelins on Jeremy Lin.

[Dragon]

It goes right into Dolan being an idiot.

Seriously. The more things change the more they stay the same with the Knicks because Dolan always has and always will be an idiot.

Most people reporting on it have said money wasn't the issue. Dolan was just upset over Lin getting a bigger contract from the Rockets and wanted to take a stand. Nothing like letting emotion and personal feelings get in the way of bettering the basketball team. If money was ever a problem he wouldn't have been spending 100M on teams that missed the postseason the last decade.

Knicks will be okay without Lin but it still was stupid not to match. They've traded all their assets (all the 2nd round picks they could, young players, rights to Euro guys they had) this offseason to go all in for the next three years and got a lot older in the process. They had someone young with potential just leave for nothing when all it would have cost them was money.

Anyway, still excited about the team for this year because with or without Lin they are a better team than last year. Getting Lin still would have made this years team even better though.

[Nark Order]

And Lakers fans won't be saying one thing about "unfair competition in the NBA" or "team stacking" if they acquire Dwight Howard either. You know, because its the Lakers, and its alright when they do it.

[Juan]

Narc, you must know some real douche bag Laker fans in real life, because I'm pretty sure none of us here have ever complained about "unfair competition" or team stacking"

[Krimzon7]

Juan, being redundant. ALL Laker fans are Douchebags

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I guess the rumor is the Cavs can help get the deal done with LA. They'd get Bynum and the Magic would get a bunch of draft picks.

Cavs might be pretty decent next year if that goes down. Lot of young talent.

[Juan]

Juan, being redundant. ALL Laker fans are Douchebags

nuh-uh

[Supreme Olajuwon]

If Howard does end up on the Lakers I think I will make LA my bandwagon team next season.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Actually I think I will just go ahead and make them my bandwagon team now so I can boast about how awesome the offseason has been.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Guys, our offseason has been AWESOME! And now we're gonna get DWIGHT HOWARD!

YOU CAN'T STOP US

[Nark Order]

I wouldn't ever cheer for the Lakers even as a joke.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Bandwagon's full anyway. We don't need you.

[Ermaximus]

I wouldn't ever cheer for the Lakers even as a joke.

You can always cheer for Da Bulls with me bro?