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FearedSanctity
04-27-2012, 07:21 PM
Yes because Perrish Cox raped someone is a good reason to avoid other troubled CBs
FearedSanctity
04-27-2012, 07:21 PM
WHO?
ClockShot
04-27-2012, 07:22 PM
Ok. I can live with that.
FearedSanctity
04-27-2012, 07:29 PM
http://i.imgur.com/HetW1.jpg
Supreme Olajuwon
04-27-2012, 07:32 PM
I watched every game Derek Wolfe played this year. He is gross. Awesome dude. You're gonna love him.
Skippord
04-27-2012, 07:34 PM
HUNGRY LIKE THE WOLFE!!!
I like the pick. Go team white guy.
FearedSanctity
04-27-2012, 07:35 PM
Elway going with the Belichick Formula
ClockShot
04-27-2012, 07:40 PM
Oregon's LaMichael James is still lurking around. Surprised nobody discovered him yet.
Reavant
04-27-2012, 07:55 PM
Love the OT pick for the bills
FearedSanctity
04-27-2012, 08:03 PM
Look at all the good WRs Bears QBs will have to throw to while they try to avoid getting killed on every play
FearedSanctity
04-27-2012, 08:52 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ClockShot
04-27-2012, 08:53 PM
Rumors were true. Denver went with Brock Osweiler.
Kellen Moore was available. Bummer.
FearedSanctity
04-27-2012, 08:59 PM
So the Broncos draft a guy who will likely learn behind Peyton at least 3 years and then start one and become a FA, or play out his entire contract as a backup. Makes sense
Skippord
04-27-2012, 09:03 PM
#Brockos
FearedSanctity
04-27-2012, 09:34 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>RB Ronnie Hillman was coached by Snoop Dog in Pop Warner</p>— Mike Klis (@MikeKlis) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/196048423416377344" data-datetime="2012-04-28T01:29:21+00:00">April 28, 2012</a></blockquote>
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lol Rich Eisen marking out for the punter
Ermaximus
04-27-2012, 09:54 PM
WHO THE FUCK DRAFTS A PUNTER IN THE 3RD ROUND?
FearedSanctity
04-27-2012, 09:55 PM
JACKSONVILLE THAT'S WHO. BOOOOOOM!
Crimson
04-27-2012, 10:43 PM
Some Dick Prank Called Mohamed Sanu And Told Him He’d Been Drafted (http://deadspin.com/5905746/some-dick-prank-called-mohamed-sanu-and-told-him-hed-been-drafted?popular=true)
lol that's so mean. wonder how many times someone has done that
The prankster got it right though..the Bengals ended up drafting him after all
Crimson
04-27-2012, 10:45 PM
Cowboys shoulda just drafted Ta'amu and plug up the middle. Unless they think Tyrone Crawford will be effective at the end, hope they're right.
RoXer
04-28-2012, 12:47 AM
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ClockShot
04-28-2012, 07:30 AM
Niners drafted LaMichael James. They're gonna be a stupid scary team on the O side of the ball.
Broncos got Ronnie Tillman. He'll probably get groomed up to replace Knowshon.
Evil Vito
04-28-2012, 10:45 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Rueben Randle was a fucking steal for the Giants with the last pick of the 2nd round.
Don't know much about Jayron Hosley. Pretty surprised they didn't take Bobby Massie while he was still on the board.</font>
Innovator
04-28-2012, 11:06 AM
I like the Randle pick. Don't know about Hosley, I agree grabbing Massie would've been nice. Giants need to start grabbing some linemen.
Evil Vito
04-28-2012, 11:30 AM
<font color=goldenrod>It tells me that the Giants are actually pretty confident that James Brewer can be a starting right tackle in the near future. Either Diehl (with Boothe at LG) or Locklear (with Diehl at LG) will start there this year.</font>
SammyG
04-28-2012, 01:25 PM
I love the Rams draft so much. I'm really excited they also took Trumaine Johnson, I've hung out with him a couple times, he's from the University of Montana, which I attended.
ClockShot
04-28-2012, 07:21 PM
The Colts open the draft, the Colts close it.
#253 aka Mr. Irrelevant is Chandler Harnish. QB out of Norhern Illinois.
Evil Vito
04-28-2012, 07:24 PM
<font color=goldenrod>ROFL @ Kiper's "You gotta be kidding me" upon the announcement of Mr. Irrelevant.</font>
Evil Vito
04-28-2012, 07:41 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Love the Giants' draft. The only pick that didn't make sense to me was their 6th rounder, OT Matt McCants. Not only does his scouting report sound horrendous, but I see no way he actually makes the team unless somebody goes down with injuries. Baas, Beatty, Snee, and Diehl are guaranteed starters. Boothe and Locklear will both be on the team with one of them also starting depending on where Diehl plays. Mosley was just drafted so he'll be there. Petrus filled in very nicely in the guard position, so he'll be there. That's already 8. Coughlin normally carries 9 linemen and I can't see them giving up on James Brewer already, so figure he gets the last spot. Plus there's a slew of other guys competing for spots that are more versatile than McCants.
Everyone else filled a need - they got 2 first round caliber guys. Great draft.</font>
Evil Vito
04-28-2012, 09:11 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Reese ain't fucking around. Already signed up 10 undrafted free agents, maxing out their roster at 90.</font>
FearedSanctity
04-29-2012, 05:15 AM
Welcome to the newest Jaguar, Long Ding!
Nark Order
04-29-2012, 06:14 PM
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Ermaximus
04-29-2012, 11:56 PM
Anger has already won the starting job. Jags cut both Nick Harris and Spencer Lanning.
Supreme Olajuwon
04-29-2012, 11:59 PM
Meh. I saw a harder Goldson hit during the year.
Supreme Olajuwon
04-30-2012, 12:00 AM
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FearedSanctity
04-30-2012, 12:00 AM
Anger has already won the starting job. Jags cut both Nick Harris and Spencer Lanning.
Let the Long Ding Anger kicking dynasty begin!
Nark Order
04-30-2012, 12:14 AM
Supreme, you're being an asshole right now. You asshole.
Supreme Olajuwon
04-30-2012, 12:16 AM
IM JUS SAYIN
Ermaximus
04-30-2012, 09:19 AM
Let the Long Ding Anger kicking dynasty begin!
We might as well just cut our entire team except Jones-Drew, Scobee, and Anger.
Skippord
04-30-2012, 09:34 AM
and Long Ding
somebody has to have made that name up. A kicker named Long Ding is the stuff of dreams. His name is probably like Reg Chow or something and he's going by that name for a laugh.
Dingsanity by the end of week 1 if he makes any team and kicks even an extra point
Gonzo
04-30-2012, 11:17 AM
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Every once in a while Eli Manning likes to get his WRs or TEs killed. Luckily Nicks knew better.
Kris P Lettus
04-30-2012, 11:36 AM
Saints ended up getting 2 OL's, 1 DT, and 1 WR..
woo
Ermaximus
04-30-2012, 12:02 PM
and Long Ding
I'm clearly missing a joke here.
Kris P Lettus
04-30-2012, 12:04 PM
Maybe Spags is just waiting to try to snag Osi from the G-Men..
:shifty:
Gonzo
04-30-2012, 01:44 PM
He can have him. I really wish that they would trade him while he still has value.
FearedSanctity
04-30-2012, 01:53 PM
I'm clearly missing a joke here.
http://www.norwichathletics.com/sports/fball/2011-12/bios/ding%20long
Jags invited him to training camp. Hails from D3 Norwich
http://www.easterncollegiatefootball.com/images/headshots/2011/NOR_Ding.jpg
Ermaximus
04-30-2012, 03:00 PM
Huh. Kind of hope he makes the team now, just so I can buy and sport his jersey. Maybe alternate between him, Anger, and Blackmon.
FearedSanctity
04-30-2012, 05:48 PM
Long Ding Blackmon
Evil Vito
04-30-2012, 06:12 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, gotta love Osi saying after the SB that there would be no off-season drama with him...and yet he's already mouthed off to Reese via the media multiple times.</font>
Gonzo
04-30-2012, 11:18 PM
I don't know. It goes both ways. Each side is going to try to "discredit" the other. I wish the Giants would have made a draft day trade. I think they could have gotten a 3rd or 4th and moved up along with it. Best case scenario, he plays this year and has solid production (~10-12 sacks.) Worst case, he sits out, holds out etc. I think he'll probably play with some theatrics involved because at this point in his career he would hurt his own future by sitting out.
Maybe he goes on for many more years with some production but he is 30 (IIRC) and has had knee and hip problems in the past. He isn't worth the long term investment. Should have traded him to let some other team deal with the headache.
FearedSanctity
05-01-2012, 01:26 PM
http://directvnews.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/lg__peyton_manning_01.jpg
http://cbssports.com/images/blogs/Peyton_Manning_Denver_Broncos_Jersey_Photos_Video_Directv_Commercial_Eli_Manning1.jpg
Weeeeeeeeeeeeird
Bucs sign Eric LeGrand, the guy from Rutgers who was paralyzed. "Pretty classy"
Innovator
05-02-2012, 10:04 AM
Nice.
Triple Naitch
05-02-2012, 10:26 AM
Forgot his old coach is there now. Love Greg Schiano.
more "Bountygate" stuff
Vilma suspended for the season, Anthony Hargrove 8 games, Will Smith 4 and Scott Fujita 3
Triple Naitch
05-02-2012, 12:08 PM
Bountygate
Supreme Olajuwon
05-02-2012, 12:14 PM
#lolSaints :'(
3xNaitch just randomly repeating Bountygate there for no specific reason :shifty:
SammyG
05-02-2012, 12:35 PM
lol Vilma gone all year, come on
Triple Naitch
05-02-2012, 12:40 PM
Good thing nobody signed him.
"Fujita, Hargrove, Smith may participate in all off-season activity, including preseason games. Vilma may not. His suspension effective now."
oooff
Good thing nobody signed him.
he's not a free agent is he?
Ermaximus
05-02-2012, 01:04 PM
Had no idea Carson Palmer has a lil bro that also played QB.
Triple Naitch
05-02-2012, 01:11 PM
he's not a free agent is he?
Double checked. Guess not. Saw the Saints singed a few LBs awhile back, thinking he wouldn't be around for the season.
Triple Naitch
05-02-2012, 02:05 PM
Apparently Vilma found out through SportsCenter. Damn.
Innovator
05-02-2012, 02:13 PM
Junior Seau was found dead this morning.
Triple Naitch
05-02-2012, 02:23 PM
Holy shit.
Krimzon7
05-02-2012, 02:31 PM
Junior Seau Found shot to death in his Oceanside home...Inno Beat me to it but I'm still trying to process this as he was one of my favorite athletes.
Krimzon7
05-02-2012, 02:32 PM
Apparently Vilma found out through SportsCenter. Damn.
LULZ. that cannot be right. the suspension costs Vilma 2.3 Million
suspected suicide, madness
Crimson
05-02-2012, 03:01 PM
Damn..I loved Seau. I was listening to sports radio, and Marcellus Wiley couldnt hold it in..he was sobbing :(
Keith
05-02-2012, 03:36 PM
It hasn't been a good day for Football. First the suspension of 4 New Orleans Saints because of the bounty scandal, and now Junior's death.
These two situations have nothing to do with one another but you've got to think that if these 4 players appeal their suspensions, Junior's death may have an indirect effect against them, because if he was starting to feel some symptoms of dementia or anything else as a result of his playing days, then the bounty scandal is going to be looked in an even more negative light.
Innovator
05-02-2012, 03:52 PM
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Police have confirmed Junior Seau committed suicide.
Next Big Thing
05-02-2012, 04:05 PM
Damn. CBS Sports is saying it was a chest wound. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/18937940/report-junior-seau-dead-from-a-self-inflected-gunshot-wound
Two weeks after Easterling too.
ClockShot
05-02-2012, 04:38 PM
Has anyone checked in on Krispy yet?
RoXer
05-02-2012, 06:00 PM
Has anyone checked in on Krispy yet?
No gunshot wounds to report as of yet
Gonzo
05-02-2012, 07:30 PM
Terrible tragedy.
SammyG
05-02-2012, 10:30 PM
RIP Seau... so sad.
Innovator
05-03-2012, 09:47 AM
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Blow to Baltimore: Ravens LB Terrell Suggs tore his Achilles playing basketball.
Skippord
05-03-2012, 09:47 AM
poor Droford
Droford
05-03-2012, 09:59 AM
Its a good thing they drafted Courtney Upshaw
Droford
05-03-2012, 10:02 AM
Also means more Paul KRUUUUUUUUUUUGER!
Supreme Olajuwon
05-03-2012, 10:11 AM
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Blow to Baltimore: Ravens LB Terrell Suggs tore his Achilles playing basketball.
Ball Too Hard University
Nark Order
05-03-2012, 10:47 AM
I swear to god Terrell Suggs brought a hooker to the NFL Awards show a couple of months ago. Like an actual hooker from the slums of Baltimore.
screech
05-03-2012, 11:47 AM
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Blow to Baltimore: Ravens LB Terrell Suggs tore his Achilles playing basketball.
:(
Nark Order
05-03-2012, 11:56 AM
Queue the "Why the fuck was he playing basketball" tirades online but that's a stupid argument. Guys do tons of different activities to keep in shape and basketball qualifies as a perfectly reasonable physical activity.
Droford
05-03-2012, 12:03 PM
WNST@WNST
Drew: By playing basketball without the team's approval, #Suggs could be subject to a 6-figure fine by the club, per his contract.
Nark Order
05-03-2012, 12:04 PM
Well, holy shit. I guess I'm wrong.
Droford
05-03-2012, 12:06 PM
Look forward to the Skip and T-Sizzle show on ESPN next season..
lol
Droford
05-03-2012, 12:08 PM
He's saying he'll be back in 6 months/November now..hmm
SammyG
05-03-2012, 01:23 PM
Ball so hard university
FearedSanctity
05-03-2012, 01:38 PM
He's saying he'll be back in 6 months/November now..hmm
A couple years ago Ryan Clady recovered from a partial ACL/MCL tear (while playing basketball, of course) and was ready for week 1, though he hasn't exactly been the same since.
Last year Demaryius Thomas tore his ACL in March/April and was good to go by week 1, though he did get an extra month to heal after breaking his pinky in the week before the opener. He also didn't fully regain his speed until the last few games of the season.
Nark Order
05-03-2012, 01:52 PM
Achilles injuries are one of the hardest injuries for an athlete to recover quickly from though. They are quite the "bitch," you see.
Charles Johnson of the Panthers (that's Charles Johnson of the Panthers) was the highest paid player in the league last year earning THIRTY FOUR MILLION dollars (he has $32m guaranteed in his contract) in the first year of a six year, $72m contract. Holy front loaded Batman. "Pretty lol" if his playing level slips and he winds up getting cut in a few years, hope he's the kind of player that's wants to "be the best" as opposed to "make some money playing football"
Supreme Olajuwon
05-04-2012, 07:32 AM
Didn't Dallas and Washington get in trouble for having contracts like that? Why is this one ok?
Next Big Thing
05-04-2012, 08:49 AM
They did it in 2010 when there was no salary cap.
Supreme Olajuwon
05-04-2012, 02:19 PM
ahhhh
Evil Vito
05-06-2012, 11:10 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Eli killed it on SNL</font> :lol:
Ermaximus
05-07-2012, 10:39 AM
Looks like the Ding Dynasty is going to be a legit craze here. Scobee is holding out and refuses to take part in OTA's until he gets a new contract.
Ok Mr. Ding, let's see what you've got.
Skippord
05-07-2012, 11:02 AM
looks like the AFC South is about to get DINGED UP
screech
05-07-2012, 11:11 AM
BOOM
ClockShot
05-08-2012, 01:32 PM
Broncos GM Brian Xanders has left the building.
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Hallelujah Chorus Short (http://www.hark.com/clips/npvjvswvqd-hallelujah-chorus-short)
Kris P Lettus
05-08-2012, 03:27 PM
Sucks about Vilma, specially since Dunbar went to the Rams.. Guess that's why we got Curtis Lofton..
Next Big Thing
05-08-2012, 03:58 PM
I think it could get even shittier for Vilma. I wouldn't be surprised if they made him restructure for less money again or cut him outright. Lofton is the younger, more productive player at the position and I don't see them paying both of those guys 7.1 million in 2013. Especially if someone else at linebacker steps up their production this season.
Emperor Smeat
05-08-2012, 04:04 PM
Vikings stadium situation potentially could get a bit uglier now since the state government could potentially approve a new stadium deal which adds in an extra $105 million the Vikings have to pay in order for their fees and taxes to be reduced by 25-30% overall.
Vikings kept demanding no more than $175 million to go along with all the fees and taxes dropped to almost nothing from their current 35+% range.
Kris P Lettus
05-08-2012, 04:30 PM
I think it could get even shittier for Vilma. I wouldn't be surprised if they made him restructure for less money again or cut him outright. Lofton is the younger, more productive player at the position and I don't see them paying both of those guys 7.1 million in 2013. Especially if someone else at linebacker steps up their production this season.
Yeah, my brother is pissed cause he just bought a Vilma jersey least season..
I could never bring myself too, just because 51 should be retired for Sam Mills (who I already have the 1987 jersey)..
Kris P Lettus
05-08-2012, 04:31 PM
Vikings stadium situation potentially could get a bit uglier now since the state government could potentially approve a new stadium deal which adds in an extra $105 million the Vikings have to pay in order for their fees and taxes to be reduced by 25-30% overall.
Vikings kept demanding no more than $175 million to go along with all the fees and taxes dropped to almost nothing from their current 35+% range.
Los Angeles Lakers
Los Angeles Vikings
West Coast nordic swagger..
Next Big Thing
05-09-2012, 07:33 AM
Yeah, my brother is pissed cause he just bought a Vilma jersey least season..
I could never bring myself too, just because 51 should be retired for Sam Mills (who I already have the 1987 jersey)..
Speaking of jerseys, I was working at Marshalls in the summer Vick got prison time for dog fighting. We had to pull all of his jerseys and destroy them. Literally slice holes in them and put them in the trash compactor. It was surreal because that jersey was so popular and we had people rushing in to buy them.
Next Big Thing
05-09-2012, 04:36 PM
NFL Players Live Longer According to the CDC
A records-based study of retired players conducted by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) concludes that they have a much lower death rate than men in the general population, contrasting the notion that football players don't live as long.
The findings, emailed Tuesday to about 3,200 former players who retired before 1993, came less than a week after former linebacker Junior Seau's suicide death at 43, and renewed concerns for the long-term health of players.
"That's surprising to me because of the blows we took when we played," said former Oakland Raiders defensive back George Atkinson, 65. "You'd think football players didn't live as long as the average person."
Hall of Fame guard Joe DeLamielleure, 61, said he's not convinced. "I think it's bogus. Just think of the guys who have died before they got into their 60s or 70s. Don't tell me we live longer. I don't believe it."
Of the 3,439 former players in the study, 334 were deceased. Based on estimates from the general population, NIOSH anticipated 625 deaths. The results, completed this year, came from further research after a study requested by the NFL Players Association (NFLPA) was completed in 1994.
Yet the results also revealed that nearly 38% of deaths from the pool of retirees — who played at least five seasons between 1959 and 1988 — were linked to heart disease.
Even so, NIOSH concluded in the study that the risk of dying of heart disease for the retirees as an overall group is lower than that for the general population.
Joe Browne, senior advisor to the NFL commissioner, hailed the study as important for debunking a myth. "During the 1990s, the players union was spreading misinformation among its rank and file about the shortened average life expectancy of professional football players, largely because of heart-related issues," Browne said.
Officials from the NFLPA and NIOSH were unavailable for comment.
The summary of the NIOSH study was part of a monthly update regarding various issues for retired players. The NIOSH study also found:
• Defensive lineman had a 42% higher risk of death from heart disease when compared to men in the general population.
• Players with a Body Mass Index of 30 or more during their playing careers had twice the risk of death from heart disease compared to other players, confirming traditional concerns about the effects of obesity.
"That makes sense," Atkinson said. "You're heart can only carry so much and support so much. Some of guys during the time I played got up as high as 300 plus pounds, and that's got to weight heavy on the heart as well as the other organs."
• African-American players had a 69% higher risk of dying from heart disease than Caucasian players. NIOSH stated that it is unsure of what caused the difference, but noted that in general African-Americans have been found to have a higher risk of heart disease.
While heart disease and cancer ranked as the two leading causes of death among the former players, as was the case among U.S. males in 2010, the NIOSH summary sent to the retirees did not account for the causes of the other 36.1% of the player deaths.
NIOSH also stated that it is studying neurodegenerative causes of death among NFL players, which could be revealing in light of increased attention on concussions and head injuries — and dozens of lawsuits against the NFL from more than 1,500 former players.
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), Alzheimer's accounted for 3.3% and Parkinson's was determined as the cause in 4.6% of deaths in 2010, when the average male life expectancy was 76.2 years.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/story/2012-05-08/Study-shows-NFL-players-live-longer/54847564/1
Really want to hear players like Hugh Douglas who say their life expectancy has been cut short respond to this. It's one thing to say the NFL is biased, but the government... I dunno.
Kris P Lettus
05-09-2012, 06:54 PM
All 4 players are appealing the suspensions being lead by Vilma.. Brees said that during that NFLPA meeting last week they outright asked for concrete proof from Gooddell and he refused..
Kris P Lettus
05-10-2012, 12:29 PM
NFLPA president: “Punishment demands evidence”
Posted by Mike Florio on May 9, 2012, 2:13 PM EDT
The NFL continues to decline to provide hard, direct evidence of the bounty allegations that fueled the suspensions of four players. The NFLPA continues to call for such evidence.
“Punishment demands evidence,” NFLPA president Domonique Foxworth writes in an item for USA Today. Foxworth reiterates that the league has yet to provide “specific, detailed evidence of player involvement in a pay-to-injure program.”
As we understand it, the NFL has provided only the March 2 report of NFL Security, the March 21 announcement of penalties against the Saints and various non-players, and a 20-slide Power Point presentation that was shown but not given to NFLPA representatives at a meeting in New York.
“Instead of transparent and fair due process for the four suspended players, the NFL chose news media leaks, character assassinations, PR campaigns and legal manipulation to mislead the public,” Foxworth writes.
Foxworth also takes issue with the suggestion that the NFLPA is protecting wrongdoers at the expense of those who were targeted.
“Over the years, it has been the players who’ve fought the league to make changes to the prevailing attitudes about health and safety in football,” Foxworth writes. “We led the change in the way concussions are addressed; successfully opposed 18-game seasons; demanded a change in the NFL’s leadership on brain trauma research and prevention; created new benefits for cognitive injury; shortened and limited contact in practices; created a better injury protection benefit and a $100 million health and safety research fund. We continue to fight the NFL in 500 workers compensation cases.”
In this specific case, the NFLPA has every right to demand the raw evidence on which the league’s conclusions have been based. To this day, no evidence has been produced to demonstrate that a player received money for inflicting injury or paid money to induce another player to do so.
If that evidence exists, let’s see it. With each passing day that the evidence isn’t disclosed, suspicions will grow that the evidence just doesn’t exist.
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Kris P Lettus
05-10-2012, 04:46 PM
http://i.imgur.com/IHkue.jpg
Emperor Smeat
05-10-2012, 07:02 PM
Baring a sudden veto from the govenor, the Vikings are staying in Minnesota as the stadium bill passed the state congress vote and the team agreed on the terms.
The Vikings will now pay almost half of the bill which ends up being $50 million more than their max request while the state will increase gambling revenues to help pay for the costs. The NFL is also expected to get involved to help cover some of the Vikings costs.
The Vikings intend to take advantage of an NFL loan program, sell naming rights and possibly impose seat license fees to help cover the team's end of construction costs.
Under the bill, the Vikings would sign a 30-year lease on a stadium to be built on the site of the Metrodome in Minneapolis. The team would pay about $13 million annually in operating fees, though a public authority gets the power to rent out the building on non-game days for concerts, conventions and special events. The Wilfs would get exclusive rights to recruit a professional soccer team to Minnesota.
The bill gives the Vikings the option to upgrade to a retractable roof, but at their expense. Bagley said the Vikings haven't decided if they'll make that enhancement.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7914553/senate-approves-plan-new-minnesota-vikings-stadium
Ermaximus
05-11-2012, 10:41 AM
http://i.imgur.com/IHkue.jpg
I feel no sympathy for him, or any other athlete like him. If you go out galavanting, and fucking 20 different women and end up with 5-7 kids, that's your own fucking fault.
Innovator
05-11-2012, 01:04 PM
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Vince Young signed with the Buffalo Bills.
Ermaximus
05-11-2012, 01:32 PM
2013 Week One starter
:yes:
Triple Naitch
05-11-2012, 01:39 PM
Vince Young is garbage. Fitzpatrick is still better.
COME AT ME AND SAY THAT AGAIN IN 12 MONTHS BRUH
Hanso Amore
05-11-2012, 02:55 PM
Vince Young - 1 year 2 million.
At worst, the Bills got the mobile QB to backup Fitz they needed. GOOD BYE TYLER THIGPEN.
At Best, Gailey - a QB Guru who coached Kordell Stewart through all of his good years, can work Vince Young into a pro bowler again, and the Bills make the playoffs.
Kris P Lettus
05-11-2012, 03:40 PM
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Jets turn down Hard Knocks http://www.tpww.net/forums/images/icons/icon8.gif
Kris P Lettus
05-11-2012, 05:05 PM
Hope it the Falcons..
Falcons passed on Hard Knocks
:-\
SlickyTrickyDamon
05-11-2012, 05:25 PM
Cardinals seems likeley to agree to Hard Knocks.
Kris P Lettus
05-12-2012, 12:57 AM
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No Saints..
No Forte juke on the Bucs..
DUNNO
Gonzo
05-12-2012, 03:18 AM
Eli Manning is the fucking truth.
SlickyTrickyDamon
05-12-2012, 04:45 AM
Flipping like an asshole is dangerous. Why are they glorifying dangerous plays? The other plays are more impressive.
Kris P Lettus
05-12-2012, 05:34 PM
League: Two 'bounty' hearings set for May 16, 30
By Marc Sessler NFL.com
Writer
Published: May 12, 2012 at 12:25 p.m. Updated: May 12, 2012 at 04:04 p.m.
Peter Ginsberg, the lawyer for Jonathan Vilma, says he still has yet to receive a single piece of evidence from Commissioner Roger Goodell that proves the New Orleans Saints linebacker participated in the team's "bounty" program.
Appearing on PFT Live on Friday, Ginsberg also stated two "bounty"-related grievances filed this month are set to be heard on May 16 and May 30.
NFL.com's Steve Wyche reported Saturday the league has officially confirmed the hearing dates. So what does this mean?
• The grievance set to be heard May 16 centers on the argument that the new collective bargaining agreement forbids the NFL from penalizing players for conduct prior to August 4, 2011. The grievance also argues Ted Cottrell or Art Shell, who are employed by the NFL Players Association and the league, should hear appeals stemming from incidents of on-field discipline -- not Commissioner Roger Goodell.
• Ginsberg cited May 30 for the second hearing, set up to addresses punishments around additional "bounty" money distributed to players in violation of the salary cap. The argument here is that NFL special master Stephen Burbank should rule on these issues and not, again, the commissioner.
Vilma, suspended by the NFL for the 2012 season, plans to appeal his punishment. The remaining trio of suspended players -- Anthony Hargrove (currently with the Green Bay Packers), Will Smith (still with the Saints) and Scott Fujita (currently with the Cleveland Browns) -- have reserved the right to file an appeal.
Mary Jo White, a former U.S. Attorney hired by the league to review the bounty investigation, told Wyche the league was "solid" in terms of evidence, saying she had secured criminal convictions with less.
Ginsberg, however, has not gone silent in his request to see evidence from the NFL. As we delve deeper into the case, this is the drum he continues to beat.
Triple Naitch
05-13-2012, 10:27 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Happy Mothers Day Lesean Mccoy! Enjoy your special day!!</p>— Osi Umenyiora (@OsiUmenyiora) <a href="https://twitter.com/OsiUmenyiora/status/201667264708218880" data-datetime="2012-05-13T13:36:37+00:00">May 13, 2012</a></blockquote>
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Emperor Smeat
05-14-2012, 07:47 PM
Wes Welker prepared to accept the franchise tag for the Pats for $9.5 million but did admit he wants a long term deal after next season.
Crimson
05-14-2012, 09:22 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Happy Mothers Day Lesean Mccoy! Enjoy your special day!!</p>— Osi Umenyiora (@OsiUmenyiora) <a href="https://twitter.com/OsiUmenyiora/status/201667264708218880" data-datetime="2012-05-13T13:36:37+00:00">May 13, 2012</a></blockquote>
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:lol: What was that in reference to?
RoXer
05-14-2012, 10:51 PM
The fact that yesterday was Mother's Day
Crimson
05-14-2012, 11:09 PM
But why to Leasean Mccoy smartass
DaveBrawl
05-14-2012, 11:17 PM
McCoy said something about him last season, they had a little back and forth, and he hasn't let it go.
Gonzo
05-15-2012, 12:46 AM
McCoy called the Giants' defense soft originally.
OssMan
05-16-2012, 09:34 AM
Winning the SB should have probably been enough to quiet him down
Innovator
05-16-2012, 10:10 AM
Osi doesn't really learn when to shut up.
Innovator
05-23-2012, 03:29 PM
Not that this latest refusal should bum you out: a show should be canceled before it forces you to watch the Seahawks. But Seattle, when approached by HBO producers, said they're not interested in doing this year's edition of the reality show. Add them to the list of "nos" that includes the Broncos, Falcons, Texans, 49ers and Redskins. The Jets haven't made it official, but don't sound too keen on inviting the circus to town again.
Meanwhile, the Jaguars: "We'll do it! Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease." HBO pretends not to notice.
Nark Order
05-23-2012, 03:31 PM
Jags :(
Ermaximus
05-23-2012, 03:34 PM
Yeah, because the whole nation wants to watch a team do nothing. Especially when their best player refuses to practice because he wants a new contract. Hard knocks can fuck off. Better yet, ask the Browns if they're down.
Krimzon7
05-23-2012, 05:32 PM
They'll be back in Cincy...ugh FFS
Droford
05-23-2012, 06:09 PM
Ravens should do it again.
Kris P Lettus
05-24-2012, 05:55 PM
Vilma will win his court battle..
Droford
05-24-2012, 06:26 PM
Charlie Sheen bought Lawrence Taylors Super Bowl ring
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Gonzo
05-24-2012, 06:34 PM
LT is the fucking GOAT.
Evil Vito
05-24-2012, 06:38 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Hakeem Nick breaks his foot. Out 12 weeks. Gonna be pushing it very close to Opening Night.</font>
Kris P Lettus
05-24-2012, 06:39 PM
LT is the fucking GOAT.
http://goldenrankings.com/mbordelon4345/rickyjackson.jpg
Kris P Lettus
05-24-2012, 06:40 PM
When Vito starts getting paranoid, you know the season is close..
:cool:
Gonzo
05-24-2012, 08:25 PM
http://goldenrankings.com/mbordelon4345/rickyjackson.jpg
lol the only reason I said that was because I knew you would bring up the Dome Patrol era Saints. ;)
LT is still the GOAT though.
SammyG
05-25-2012, 04:05 AM
lol NFL Network, Rams-Titans isn't one of the top 10 best superbowls ever? trolololol
Ermaximus
05-25-2012, 10:23 AM
lol NFL Network, Rams-Titans isn't one of the top 10 best superbowls ever? trolololol
Should've been Rams-Jags that year. :(
Emperor Smeat
05-25-2012, 03:16 PM
Wouldn't go that far in making it a Top 10 ever SB but the final play easily is.
Dolphins confirmed for Hard Knocks. I can live with that
Ermaximus
05-29-2012, 01:03 PM
Oh God.
Innovator
05-29-2012, 03:43 PM
Hakeem the Dream Nicks tells Coughlin he'll be in training camp. Winners get to do what they want.
owenbrown
05-29-2012, 06:46 PM
Dolphins confirmed for Hard Knocks. I can live with that
HBO really scraped the barrel on this season didn't they?
Ermaximus
05-30-2012, 12:28 PM
HBO really scraped the barrel on this season didn't they?
No, if they had, then the Jags or Browns would be doing Hard Knocks. :(
Supreme Olajuwon
05-30-2012, 02:04 PM
HBO really scraped the barrel on this season didn't they?
you only come in here to bitch
screech
05-30-2012, 02:17 PM
Has owenbrown revealed his favorite team?
owenbrown
05-30-2012, 02:48 PM
you only come in here to bitch
you only come in here to say "you only come in here to bitch" :p
owenbrown
05-30-2012, 02:49 PM
Has owenbrown revealed his favorite team?
Tennessee although they aren't any better
Ermaximus
05-30-2012, 03:15 PM
Tennessee although they aren't any better
Finishing 2nd in the division kind of is, but considering who the two teams who finished worse were....yea.
owenbrown
05-30-2012, 09:07 PM
I am not very optimistic about this season given their schedule but I could be wrong
Gonzo
05-30-2012, 10:42 PM
Pumped for the season to get rolling. Might sound odd but I'm excited to see what the Giants do with certain positions (namely LB, WR depth, and RB.) Could easily see things going either way.
Ermaximus
05-31-2012, 09:54 AM
LOL, T.O. has been cut, by an IFL team. That has to sting a bit!
Innovator
05-31-2012, 10:00 AM
Pumped for the season to get rolling. Might sound odd but I'm excited to see what the Giants do with certain positions (namely LB, WR depth, and RB.) Could easily see things going either way.
I hope LB improves, but RB worries me a bit since Bradshaw always gets hurt.
James Steele
05-31-2012, 10:09 PM
LOL, T.O. has been cut, by an IFL team. That has to sting a bit!
Not only did he get cut by an IFL team, but it was the IFL team he had 30% ownership of. They took away his 30% in the team away due to breach of contract.
Supreme Olajuwon
06-01-2012, 02:10 PM
Nice. Apparently Scott Fujita and Drew Brews played a part in convincing that filmmaker dude to release the audio of Greg Williams telling players to injure the 49ers.
I guess it was so they could blame everything on Williams and take the heat off the players.
Supreme Olajuwon
06-01-2012, 02:13 PM
oh apparently the players association told him to do it too
niiiiiiiice
Gonzo
06-01-2012, 03:03 PM
I hope LB improves, but RB worries me a bit since Bradshaw always gets hurt.
Yeah, I agree. Danny Ware is a solid spell back but he is injury prone too. I think the success of the group hinges on the young guys. I thought that they should have used Da'Rel Scott in more situations last year. Guy is a burner. Get him on the edge or involve him in the screen game. Hopefully the situation now gives him the opportunity to get in there a bit.
#1-norm-fan
06-01-2012, 04:48 PM
Nice. Apparently Scott Fujita and Drew Brews played a part in convincing that filmmaker dude to release the audio of Greg Williams telling players to injure the 49ers.
I guess it was so they could blame everything on Williams and take the heat off the players.
Mmm... Drew Brews... :drool:
#1-norm-fan
06-01-2012, 04:50 PM
I haven't been keeping up on the offseason as much as I should have been I guess.
Apparently Martellus Bennett is now a New York Giant... and he now weighs almost 300 lbs.
Innovator
06-01-2012, 04:51 PM
Yeah, I agree. Danny Ware is a solid spell back but he is injury prone too. I think the success of the group hinges on the young guys. I thought that they should have used Da'Rel Scott in more situations last year. Guy is a burner. Get him on the edge or involve him in the screen game. Hopefully the situation now gives him the opportunity to get in there a bit.
Thing with Ware is that I can't remember seeing him break a tackle or two and gain 5 more yards. Bradshaw has those runs where he refuses to go down. Jacobs was like that until he forgot he was an angry 270 lbs black man.
Crimson
06-01-2012, 05:40 PM
I haven't been keeping up on the offseason as much as I should have been I guess.
Apparently Martellus Bennett is now a New York Giant... and he now weighs almost 300 lbs.
hahaha
Gonzo
06-01-2012, 06:24 PM
Thing with Ware is that I can't remember seeing him break a tackle or two and gain 5 more yards. Bradshaw has those runs where he refuses to go down. Jacobs was like that until he forgot he was an angry 270 lbs black man.
Well I do like that Ware will take what the defense gives him and isn't flashy. He is a north south runner and I like that about him. Bradshaw plays with the heart of a giant (no pun intended.) I think Jacobs started playing to preserve his career more than anything else. I can't say I necessarily blame him.
I think the problems with the running game have to do primarily with the offensive line. The running game simply hasn't been the same since David Baas replaced Shaun O'Hara. Say whatever you want about any of them but I think Baas simply doesn't do as good a job directing the line as O'Hara did. Unless there was a philosophy change in the coaching that we can't see as fans that's my interpretation.
I will say this however: it seemed to me, from a fan perspective, that the line played better at times when Baas was out hurt and Boothe was playing center. I like Mitch Petrus too. Kind of wish he would crack the starting lineup at one of the guard spots.
Evil Vito
06-01-2012, 06:40 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Osi Umenyiora agrees to a restructured contract. Early word is that he's still only signed for this year, but his salary has now doubled.</font>
outstanding, keeps my Superbowl 42 jersey "in date" for at least another year
Gonzo
06-01-2012, 10:08 PM
I think that's a good alternative to a long term deal. Assuming he produces like last year and can stay relatively healthy that's not bad.
Innovator
06-03-2012, 04:11 PM
Justin Blackmon blows a .24, DUI.
Ermaximus
06-03-2012, 04:15 PM
Publicity for Jacksonville!
Krimzon7
06-03-2012, 05:16 PM
Wait!!! Somebody is talking about the Jaguars!!!! HOLY SHIT
Ermaximus
06-03-2012, 05:58 PM
Not so much about the Jags per say Krimzon, but Blackmon. I'm sure the media will have a field day with this.
James Steele
06-03-2012, 08:20 PM
:lol:
He is supposed to be one of the "good guys", too. Oh well, nigga in braces still a baller.
Supreme Olajuwon
06-04-2012, 11:36 AM
looks like we're going to have scab referees this season
Innovator
06-04-2012, 11:43 AM
A NFL referee salary ranges from 24,000 to 70,000...not bad for 20-24 days of work.
James Steele
06-04-2012, 07:58 PM
A NFL referee salary ranges from 24,000 to 70,000...not bad for 20-24 days of work.
Do they have to pay for travel expenses? Obviously, experience comes into play but I wonder how much more money refs make for playoff games or the Super Bowl.
Crimson
06-04-2012, 09:18 PM
Fuckin refs are ridiculous..Ibaka didnt even touch Manu and they call a foul.
Gonzo
06-04-2012, 09:36 PM
The ref issue will probably get settled before the season gets going.
Crimson
06-04-2012, 11:11 PM
haha wow wrong thread
Ermaximus
06-05-2012, 10:01 AM
If the rumors are true, I think the Jags should avoid letting Mike Thomas go just yet. I have a feeling Blackmon isn't going to get much playing time with all this drama he's causing right now.
ClockShot
06-06-2012, 04:57 PM
Giants are keeping old man Coughlin around until 2014.
Emperor Smeat
06-07-2012, 05:35 PM
Pats release Chad Ochocinco after just a single season into his 2-year deal.
Not a huge shock since they stocked up on a few WRs this offseason and their double TE package meant less work needed for WRs. It also didn't help the lockout affected him the most on the team due to the lack of time to get used to the Pats system.
They tried to trade him before the end of the day but nobody was willing to offer anything for him.
Gonzo
06-07-2012, 07:55 PM
Giants are keeping old man Coughlin around until 2014.
Eli and Tom gonna win another 'ship and send Tony Romo into retirement and mediocrity. :cool:
Keith
06-07-2012, 10:34 PM
Giants are keeping old man Coughlin around until 2014.
They'll probably win another Super Bowl before then.
Ermaximus
06-08-2012, 12:06 PM
Pats release Chad Ochocinco after just a single season into his 2-year deal.
Not a huge shock since they stocked up on a few WRs this offseason and their double TE package meant less work needed for WRs. It also didn't help the lockout affected him the most on the team due to the lack of time to get used to the Pats system.
They tried to trade him before the end of the day but nobody was willing to offer anything for him.
It's 2012 and both T.O. and Ochocinco are unemployed. All is right with the world.
Innovator
06-08-2012, 12:10 PM
Eli and Tom gonna win another 'ship and send Tony Romo into retirement and mediocrity. :cool:
You're forgetting Coughlin will go through 5-20 "FIRE THIS MAN" weeks before he wins another championship.
Gonzo
06-08-2012, 12:16 PM
I'll admit I fell into the trap a couple years ago. I wanted them to get rid of Coughlin and bring in Cowher. :$
I'm glad he has stuck around though. Coaching carousels are never a good thing.
Evil Vito
06-08-2012, 12:43 PM
I gotta admit, I thought the Giants should have fired Coughlin if they collapsed for the 3rd straight year, just to hit the re-set button on the franchise. But after winning another SB, I'll never call for his firing again. He can stay the Giants coach for life if he wants to.
SammyG
06-08-2012, 01:20 PM
Jeff Fisher is in a music video for some reason
Gonzo
06-08-2012, 02:25 PM
I gotta admit, I thought the Giants should have fired Coughlin if they collapsed for the 3rd straight year, just to hit the re-set button on the franchise. But after winning another SB, I'll never call for his firing again. He can stay the Giants coach for life if he wants to.
Still fucking hate Kevin Gilbride. Either that, or Eli is a horrible audible caller.
Ermaximus
06-08-2012, 03:00 PM
Jeff Fisher is in a music video for some reason
:lol: What?
Innovator
06-08-2012, 03:16 PM
Still fucking hate Kevin Gilbride. Either that, or Eli is a horrible audible caller.
So it is agreed upon. Fuck Gilbride AND HIS STUPID 3RD AND LONG DRAWS.
SammyG
06-08-2012, 03:27 PM
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Emperor Smeat
06-08-2012, 04:35 PM
Gronk-time in New England extended for another 6 years due to the team and Gronkowski agreeing on a 6-year, $54 million extension.
It makes him the highest paid TE ever in team history.
Triple Naitch
06-08-2012, 10:47 PM
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/538645_10151039747503455_759818794_n.jpg
SammyG
06-08-2012, 11:08 PM
why is there a zoo in this picture. shisen kopf post.
Triple Naitch
06-08-2012, 11:09 PM
Shisen is actually more creative than that.
James Steele
06-09-2012, 03:57 AM
Shisen is actually more creative than that.
Not much more.
Ermaximus
06-09-2012, 04:23 PM
why is there a zoo in this picture. shisen kopf post.
Come on bro, you're better than this.
SammyG
06-09-2012, 06:32 PM
I was attempting a Shisen joke, sorry.
Team Sheep
06-10-2012, 08:05 PM
To be honest, I'd have been tempted to let Coughlin go and start fresh now if I was the Giants, which sounds a bit ridiculous. Yes he's won two Super Bowls out of the blue but they've been incredibly average and underachieved every other year. Can't see what more there is for him to accomplish now. Then again, how the hell do you fire a coach who just won you the Super Bowl.
Ermaximus
06-11-2012, 09:25 AM
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Why is this a thing? Way to make me hate my city even more Jacksonville.
Krimzon7
06-11-2012, 09:32 AM
pathetic. do the jaguar? it's bad enough tebow didn't want ya, now you're gonna whore out his phenomenon?
Ermaximus
06-11-2012, 09:35 AM
pathetic. do the jaguar? it's bad enough tebow didn't want ya, now you're gonna whore out his phenomenon?
I'm at a loss for words too.
Evil Vito
06-11-2012, 12:56 PM
To be honest, I'd have been tempted to let Coughlin go and start fresh now if I was the Giants, which sounds a bit ridiculous. Yes he's won two Super Bowls out of the blue but they've been incredibly average and underachieved every other year. Can't see what more there is for him to accomplish now. Then again, how the hell do you fire a coach who just won you the Super Bowl.
You don't fire a coach with 2 rings. Simple as that really.
imagine the position it puts the next guy in. Anything other than winning the Super Bowl makes his position pretty much untenable
Triple Naitch
06-11-2012, 03:05 PM
Really thought Coughlin was gonna retire this year or next.
Innovator
06-11-2012, 04:47 PM
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Giants announced they waived/failed physical TE Jake Ballard and re-signed DR Rocky Bernard.
Evil Vito
06-11-2012, 07:11 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Ballard was initially hopeful that he could go on the PUP list and be ready late in the year, but even he's conceded that he won't be ready to go until 2013. Giants are going to put him on their reserve PUP/injured list once he clears waivers tomorrow so that he doesn't count against the 90 man roster.
In bigger news, David Diehl got arrested for DWI. I'm sure the team and the league will slap him with a fine. More importantly, I wonder if Goodell will hit him with a 4 game suspension. Where Diehl plays was pretty much going to determine the configuration of the line as well as who's on the bench. But if he misses the start of the year I guess they'd be going with: Beatty-Boothe-Baas-Snee-Locklear.
Diehl could replace the weakest link out of Beatty/Boothe/Locklear once her returns.</font>
Ocho to Dolphins official, 1 year deal
Evil Vito
06-12-2012, 07:25 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Wow, so much for Ballard coming back to the Giants. Patriots claim him off of waivers. They'll stash him on their 90 man roster and pay him $540,000 to not play this year.
If he had gotten through waivers, the Giants would have been able to hold on to Ballard for the entire year without pay (reserve list) and he wouldn't have counted against the 90 man roster.</font>
Gonzo
06-12-2012, 08:36 PM
I think Ballard played well last year but his production is replaceable.
Innovator
06-12-2012, 08:42 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Wow, so much for Ballard coming back to the Giants. Patriots claim him off of waivers. They'll stash him on their 90 man roster and pay him $540,000 to not play this year.
If he had gotten through waivers, the Giants would have been able to hold on to Ballard for the entire year without pay (reserve list) and he wouldn't have counted against the 90 man roster.</font>
Or he'll play when Gronkowski's liver fails
Crimson
06-12-2012, 08:45 PM
Wow Quinn Pitcock was so addicted to gaming on CoD..he said it cost him an NFL career. He'd play over 10 hrs a day
Evil Vito
06-12-2012, 09:19 PM
I think Ballard played well last year but his production is replaceable.
<font color=goldenrod>With Mike Pope as TE coach, I'm pretty sure everybody's production is replaceable. They always seem to have somebody decent in there no matter who leaves.</font>
Triple Naitch
06-13-2012, 10:51 AM
Just read Van Halen is gonna do the Super Bowl halftime show. Dunno if it's true or not yet. Mad excited now for the season to start.
RoXer
06-13-2012, 12:57 PM
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Ermaximus
06-13-2012, 01:02 PM
MJD and Scobee still holding out. Well, there goes our season. Oh wait, nevermind, we still have Long Ding.
Next Big Thing
06-13-2012, 06:29 PM
MJD and Scobee still holding out. Well, there goes our season. Oh wait, nevermind, we still have Long Ding.
Players got the business in the CBA. Once training camp starts, they lose $30,000 per day if they hold out. I don't see too many players willing to lose that kind of money for too long.
Ermaximus
06-13-2012, 09:22 PM
Does that affect franchise tagged players though? I didn't think it did.
Krimzon7
06-14-2012, 09:11 AM
The CBA was completely a win for the ownership. The rookie salary scale (even though veterans benefit from the extra money), and the way hold outs are handled more than make up for whatever they 'gave up'.
Krimzon7
06-14-2012, 09:11 AM
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This. Is. Hideous. But it helps prevent's eye pokes. He should just go for a cobra commander/ tron helment and be done with it
Next Big Thing
06-14-2012, 09:21 AM
The CBA was completely a win for the ownership. The rookie salary scale (even though veterans benefit from the extra money), and the way hold outs are handled more than make up for whatever they 'gave up'.
I gotta admit that I'm kind of a fan of the rookie wage scale. Other than that, the players should probably look into better representation for future negotiations. How the hell does anyone agree to a stipulation that allows the same guy punishing you to be the one who decides your fate on appeal?
Gonzo
06-14-2012, 05:01 PM
This. Is. Hideous. But it helps prevent's eye pokes. He should just go for a cobra commander/ tron helment and be done with it
I believe it was that piece of shit Flozell Adams that poked him in the eye years ago. I definitely know Flozell pulled a bullshit leg whip that put Osi out for some games.
Emperor Smeat
06-14-2012, 05:06 PM
The CBA was completely a win for the ownership. The rookie salary scale (even though veterans benefit from the extra money), and the way hold outs are handled more than make up for whatever they 'gave up'.
The owners won the short term but I think the money differences from the CBA debates ended up being placed towards the pension and medical funds so in the end everyone benefits.
Owners wanted to just pocket the extra $1-2 billion but instead have that locked up for future spending at the cost of the players loosing that money upfront since they wanted it now. Same for the rookie scale since most of the money difference from the old and new one just got placed into other funds than only in the owners pocket.
Krimzon7
06-15-2012, 09:09 AM
I believe it was that piece of shit Flozell Adams that poked him in the eye years ago. I definitely know Flozell pulled a bullshit leg whip that put Osi out for some games.
Flozell adams is a cheap sumbitch. and I'm an O Lineman! He's the dirtiest of them all. with that being said, Hogs believe that 'if you ain't cheatin you ain't trying'. Eypokes are just too far though
Krimzon7
06-15-2012, 09:10 AM
The owners won the short term but I think the money differences from the CBA debates ended up being placed towards the pension and medical funds so in the end everyone benefits.
Owners wanted to just pocket the extra $1-2 billion but instead have that locked up for future spending at the cost of the players loosing that money upfront since they wanted it now. Same for the rookie scale since most of the money difference from the old and new one just got placed into other funds than only in the owners pocket.
Interesting Viewpoint and it does put a lot in perspective. Well said sir.
Evil Vito
06-17-2012, 12:32 PM
<font color=goldenrod>LaDainian Tomlinson to sign a one day contract with the Chargers and retire.</font>
Krimzon7
06-18-2012, 11:34 AM
Jonathan Vilma and four other Saints entered their appeal this morning. Goddell (that asshole) adjourned their meeting and asked to meet later this afternoon.
VIlma ain't having that and said he isn't coming back for this circus. It appears that the other three are undecided on whether or not to return. All four may pursue other legal actions.
I love Jonathan Vilma's Gangster throughout this whole stint. He's on some Nino Brown shit...although Nino Brown rolled over and snitched on everybody as soon as he got some heat.
SammyG
06-18-2012, 02:29 PM
Sad to see LT retire, love him so much. Great career.
Ermaximus
06-18-2012, 02:35 PM
I said the same thing about Fred Taylor when he retired. Sucks when good players like them never win the big prize.
You're 6 years old, and you love football. Specifically, you love the New York Giants and their big, bruising running back Brandon Jacobs.
One day, you hear that Brandon Jacobs isn't playing for the Giants anymore; he's playing for some other team that wears different colors in some other place way far away. You ask your mother to explain, and she tells you that the Giants just don't have enough money to keep Brandon Jacobs.
So you think to yourself, "Oh? Is that it? Money? All that we need to fix this is money? I have money! I'll send it to Brandon Jacobs and everything will be fine! Here! Here's money! All better!"
And this arrived in Brandon Jacobs' mailbox:
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Somehow, the $3.36 failed to void an NFL contract and get Jacobs back with the Giants. He remains a 49er, but hopefully, young Joseph has found a way to heal his broken little heart.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>The kid thought the giants didn't have enough money to bring me back, so he sent me 3.36 cent to come back it was the best ever.</p>— Brandon Jacobs (@gatorboy45) <a href="https://twitter.com/gatorboy45/status/210186289021071360" data-datetime="2012-06-06T01:48:11+00:00">June 6, 2012</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>I almost cried, I am still trying to hold it in. I may have to pay him a surprise visit.</p>— Brandon Jacobs (@gatorboy45) <a href="https://twitter.com/gatorboy45/status/210171459144912896" data-datetime="2012-06-06T00:49:15+00:00">June 6, 2012</a></blockquote>
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Remember the adorable little New York Giants fan named Joe who sent the contents of his piggy bank to Brandon Jacobs because "money" was the reason that Jacobs had to leave the Giants? The young fellow got his money back this week, hand-delivered by Jacobs, along with a signed Giants helmet and a bouncy, memorable afternoon with his favorite football player.
Jacobs told Matt Barrow of the Sacramento Bee that he and his son took Joe and his brother out to a bounce house for the afternoon and had a blast.
"It was just us in the whole place and we were just going room to room - just bouncing and flipping all over the place, hitting each other with balls, sweating, our shirts filthy. We were just dirty, stinky boys, you know?"
Added Joe's mom, Julie:
"He told me he really wanted to get out there with the kids. [...] He really wanted to enjoy it, and he did. It was amazing."
I love a story that ends with warm fuzzies all around. It was a sweet act by the child to send Jacobs his piggy bank money, and it was sweet of Jacobs to make sure the little guy knew that the gesture was appreciated. Jacobs is even pulling inspiration from the whole thing to get him motivated for the season.
"I'm at a point in my career when people have stopped believing in me and not believing that I can still play. But that's not the case. Joe believes in me, gave me a lot of confidence and a lot of want-to. And I'm ready to go. I can't wait until the season starts."
Well, if karma exists in that bounce house, Jacobs hopefully picked up enough Wednesday to improve on the 571 yards and 3.8 per carry he averaged last season. He won't get to do it in New York, like Joe wanted, but now maybe Joe can put his $3.36 towards the Sunday Ticket package and watch his hero in San Francisco.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>The Armento family is great, God bless them and I wish them the best.</p>— Brandon Jacobs (@gatorboy45) <a href="https://twitter.com/gatorboy45/status/215524381374418944" data-datetime="2012-06-20T19:19:51+00:00">June 20, 2012</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Thank you @<a href="https://twitter.com/gatorboy45">gatorboy45</a> for giving joe and our family a lifetime memory. There will never be a better bounce house visit <a href="http://t.co/aY8MKlNd" title="http://twitter.com/juliearmento/status/215524052239003648/photo/1">twitter.com/juliearmento/s…</a></p>— Julie Armento (@juliearmento) <a href="https://twitter.com/juliearmento/status/215524052239003648" data-datetime="2012-06-20T19:18:33+00:00">June 20, 2012</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>@<a href="https://twitter.com/juliearmento">juliearmento</a> <a href="http://t.co/No72BgpO" title="http://lockerz.com/s/218682877">lockerz.com/s/218682877</a> Little Joe and his brother Nick and my so Brayden and me had so much fun today at Jump On In</p>— Brandon Jacobs (@gatorboy45) <a href="https://twitter.com/gatorboy45/status/215523897850859521" data-datetime="2012-06-20T19:17:56+00:00">June 20, 2012</a></blockquote>
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Krimzon7
06-21-2012, 04:54 PM
Good for Brandon Jacobs being a good man.
Supreme Olajuwon
06-21-2012, 06:23 PM
also props for the sick Tony the Tiger shirt
OssMan
06-21-2012, 06:44 PM
Those "bounce house" places are dreadful
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