Modern Warfare 2

[Buzzkill]

Yeah what the fuck, I was just playing the campaign and got to the airport mission...

I don't ever take issue with stuff in video games, but this was just...royally fucked up. A minute into it and I didn't even want to finish the mission.

Damn.

[Champion of Europa]

If anyone is on PS3, I have a group account with a friend of mine. We go by BONZAIbehemoth. So, if you get shot in the face by him, there's a 50% chance it was me.

[Disturbed316]

I didn't really feel overly odd whilst doing the airport mission, did think it was abit fucked up though and later mission really made me want to get those russian bastards. I think the ending to the airport was more fucked up for me, went through all of that mayhem only for that to happen. Was SHOCKED!

[D Mac]

WTF G, when I say invite, I mean fucking invite me. :foc:

[G]

If you're too much of a pussy to play hardcore, you are dead to me.

[G]

Nah I got like 10 ppl I know in a room. Not gonna leave them to come play with 1 person who doesn't talk.

[G]

come join us. you too fignuts

[D Mac]

If you're too much of a pussy to play hardcore, you are dead to me.

:mad: I play once in a while. I get fucking pissed too easily.

[D Mac]

You must have a shitty internet connection. It aint on my end.

[Fignuts]

I love hardcore, but I don't want to just jump in right off the bat. I like to get a feel for the guns and maps first.

[G]

So the "omg omg omg gotta play it" feeling has gone, so now I can sit down and peacefully play the single player.

[Ogen]

Job interview at 11:30am, in the shop to buy this by 1:00pm, home at 2:00pm, superglue headset back together from where I stood on it the other day while installing it to my X-Box, start playing some of you lot at 2:30pm, be terrible for a while, get a bit better, 3:30pm recieve phonecall saying I've got the job and I was just so great they didn't want to waste any time getting back to me, 3:40pm kill everyone to celebrate spending money on this not being a terrible idea due to being jobless.

That will be how my day works out tomorrow. Maybe.

[ClockShot]

Yeah. Did the airport mission today. Totally caught me off guard.

Tell your friends to skip it if they want a clean conscience.

[Kalyx triaD]

Tell your friends to skip it if they want a clean conscience.

Or if they're pussies.

[G]

ffs it's a fucking video game

[OssMan]

Buying this game cause of ECG. Fuck

PS ECG add platinumbear on playstation network thans

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Just incase people care, X-Play rates this 5/5.

[Fignuts]

twists and turns

[Kalyx triaD]

X-Play Reviews > IGN.com Reviews

Though as a general rule I don't take "professional" reviews into much consideration when purchasing a game.

[Buzzkill]

ffs it's a fucking video game

Just cause its a video game means one can't take issue with certain parts?

Trust me, I'm fine with pretty much everything, including all of GTA, but the mission was pretty disturbing.

Not saying its wrong or immoral, just saying I did not feel comfortable playing that part.

Also, just saying "its just a video game" is probably the most retarded argument one can possibly make on the subject. Basically what you're saying is that you'd be perfectly fine playing a game that requires you to, say, rape seven year old girls in great detail and think any objection would be absurd? I mean it's just a video game...

[Kalyx triaD]

STRAWMAN

But I'll let G handle this.

[D Mac]

Same bullshit is back when you empty a clip into some fucker and they don't die and kill you in one shot. :mad:

Cheaters I guess.

[D Mac]

Kill the women and children first!

[D Mac]

Also, I don't like Demolition.

[Fignuts]

Had my best game ever just now.

19-0 on quarry. Tool out about 5 people with the harrier strike, then dropped about 8 more with the pavlov.

Granted I've gotten 30+ and even 40+ kills before, but never without dying once. Pretty awesome.

[Fignuts]

Also got highest score challenge which just before the game, I was thinking I might not be able to get as I am good but not great.

[Fignuts]

Finished campain mode.

Awesome experience although it was shorter than expected.

[D Mac]

Yeah I'm stretching it out. Heard it was pretty short.

[Fignuts]

short and halo 2ish

[Fignuts]

I wanna spens some time on spec ops.

Anybody?

[Kalyx triaD]

I'd totally do Spec-Ops if I could. That mode tickles my fancy.

[D Mac]

I love how they kept that same little guitar riff every time you complete a challenge on multi. That shit makes me pump my fist every time.

[LoDownM]

Up to like 26 now. Hate the heartbeat attachment. When I turned the PS3 off I was ranked under 100k in score and wins :cool:

[Fignuts]

Did some spec ops with roxer.

Yeah you guys need to get on that shit. Mad fun.

The alpha class missions are a bit ho-hum, but once you unlock bravo, it gets real fun.

although a mic is pretty nessecary for some. We failed the stealth mission twice, pretty much because of no communication.

[Kalyx triaD]

Very nice. Like a realistic Firefight Mode. How many people can play at once?

[Kalyx triaD]

This morning Fox & Friends will discuss MW2. What they'll discuss, I don't know - but it should be fun. F&F starts at 6:50am.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

My PSN for this if anyone wants to do a bit of shooting is g1364201. Random numbers username.

Haven't got it yet, haven't got a headset either but will invest in one if it's worthwhile.

[Ogen]

Well played two games now making some lunch, first impressions are fuck me the levels are HUGE or I've had two bigs ones. Had Afghan and some other one. First game went 1-0-17 second game a more respectable 17-0-19 after finding a good spot and working my kill streaks up. Liking the care packages, didn't actually bother collecting it the second time but used it as a trap instead. Be better when I've stuffed unlocked obviously.

Played the single player for a few minutes but can't be arsed with that not nearly as much fun.

[Fignuts]

Derailed is another one of the huge ones. Personally, I like the huge maps. Gives you a lot of options on how you want to attack.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I am going to creep up behind you and slit your throat.

[Ermaximus]

I wanna spens some time on spec ops.

Anybody?

Hit me up and I'm game.

[Fignuts]

Very nice. Like a realistic Firefight Mode. How many people can play at once?

2 player only. That and the fact that the AC-130 gunship mission is too short, are my only real gripes. But like I said, It's still a blast.

[OssMan]

Had this dream Ogen was my roommate and that I was gonna buy this game until I realized that I would just borrow it from Ogen when he wasn't playing it. Shit man

[CSL]

The amount of people talking to me about this game is driving me crazy :(

[Fignuts]

So far the only map I don't like is wasteland. And it's not even bad. It's just kind of average in comparison to everything else.

Terminal is easily my favorite.

[Blitz]

Just finished the SP campaign. Wow. One of the best single player experiences ever. Amazing story.

[Shaggy]

Question about the multiplayer...

I was in a party with one of my friends and we were set to play Team Deathmatch and it takes you off party chat and to ingame chat. Is there a way to get it back to just you and your party talking or is that only in a different mode.

[Fignuts]

Only ground war has party chat I think.

[Blitz]

Mercenary Team Deathmatch as well. Not sure what other modes.

[G]

I haven't started the single player yet. How long did it take to finish?

[Fignuts]

I dit in about 6 hours. Pretty short, but spec ops makes up for that.

[Ogen]

Well been playing on it for about 8 hours straight, that'll do for a few hours I think. Fucking hell some game though, got myself up to level 10 on MP and now playing the single player missions which are fantastic even if the gameplay to them is a bit samey.

Top top game.

[G]

Do enemies still infinitely respawn

[Ogen]

They do seem too, always too many enemies even without respawning would be my criticism. Would be more fun with harder but less of them.

[LoDownM]

Played the SP this morning since PSN was down apparently. Ended up finishing it in 4 hours. Loved it. Price is a crazy bastard.

[The Destroyer]

Quite enjoying playing on Live, even though I am absolutely awful.

[G]

I am not enjoying this. Went 0 and 5 and shut it off. Fucking hate this game right now. Wish I bought the new DBZ game instead.

[D Mac]

That's probably because you SUCK

[G]

gonna lay off the team deathmatch for awhile. i want to play a game with some purpose. gonna go back to my true calling of hardcore s&d.

[G]

and fuck you diesel mac. fuck you hard

[OssMan]

Played some of the single player game. It is good. Can't get online. Peace

[G]

sux for you ps3 wieners

[Blitz]

Was playing Underpass. Got my first Emergency Airdrop. Excitedly used it. Didn't look up. All 4 crates landed on the overpass :|

[Fignuts]

lol I see so many people calling in airdrops indoors.

Got to call in the pavlow a couple times. That and the harrier strike usually rack me up a ton of kills. Went 38-7 on terminal because of them. Went from 7-0 to 20-0 in the span of three minutes, after calling in the harriers.

[Blitz]

Dunno if they actually changed it or I'm just better, but the M4A1 is beastly in this game.

Also doing some nice work with the RPD. Silencers on LMGs are lovely.

[Fignuts]

Yeah LMGs are my weapon of choice, seconded with sniper rifles.

Although I'm really digging the SCAR assault rifle atm.
Especially with the scrambler perk.

[LoDownM]

I was playing, uh still haven't gotten the names down for the levels, the one where its raining, and watched my teammate drop his airdrop and kill 2 of our teammates.

[Fignuts]

lol yeah, was just about to say the drops can kill you. Been hoping to sneak up on a camper, and plant one on him.

[D Mac]

and fuck you diesel mac. fuck you hard




You wish big boy. :kiss:

[The Genius]

any info on how to unlock emblems and call signs?

[D Mac]

Play the game. :p

[D Mac]

Yeah I'm getting drunk right now and playing this. It rules.

[The Genius]

that 'public enemy' with the great white shark logo is sick!

[OssMan]

I get nothing but lag. Oh well

[D Mac]

That's PS3 for you.

[LoDownM]

I've had 2 games lag out on PS3. Don't know what Assman is talking about.

[Shaggy]

I figured out how to stay talking to your friends during Team Deathmatch....instead of a party you need to do private chat....

I love playing this online even though I pretty much suck at it most of the time.

[Ermaximus]

Campaign is much easier than COD 4, yet The Pit was much harder than COD4. Also loving the drones. Great addition.

[OssMan]

Nah prolly my shitty college connection that can't even properly load a YouTube video. It worked fine last night though

[Johnny McNasty]

Really love this game. It definitely lived up to the hype for me. Story is as epic as it gets, Spec Ops is really fun, and multiplayer is intense.

Story mode really draws out emotions while your playing which is always a good thing. After I beat it I turned around and started a new one its just so much fun.

The customization in multiplayer is nuts, I feel overwhelmed with the choices of perks and attachments I can use. Mostly been sticking with the ACR assault rifle with Sleight of hand, Stopping power, and Steady Aim. Favorite new perk is definitely bling, assault rifle with a grenade launcher and a red dot sight is win. Up to level 51 right now, but plan on gaming through the night with some friends.

Anyways I'm getting off here, and jumping right back into it.

[LoDownM]

HATE THE HEARTBEAT SENSOR SO FUCKING MUCH WANT TO PUNCH EVERY BABY BORN DURING PRODUCTION THATS LISTED IN THE CREDITS :mad:

Also dissapointed I went from 90k rank to 250k ranked from not playing yesterday :'(

[G]

i :heart: the heartbeat sensor. just got one today, and my k/d has been been improving. i'm not just running around like a lunatic anymore.

[Fignuts]

Does the scrambler perk also effect the heartbeat sensor.

[G]

no, but ninja does

[LoDownM]

Im 2 ranks away from unlocking ninja, untill then, I hate it.

[Ogen]

Does scrambler stop you showing up as a target for predators do you know?

[ClockShot]

Just played some more campaign and sprung Capt. Price from the Gulag. Big markout moment for me.

[LoDownM]

Does scrambler stop you showing up as a target for predators do you know?

No, cold blooded makes you invisible from everything except the heartbeat monitor.

[Ogen]

The drop things are way too powerful, was playing earlier won a FFA 30-5 only one other person got to 10 because I managed to grab someone elses pavelow at the start then got one of my own. Can see missle launchers becoming a very common secondary weapon to conteract all the stuff in the air.

[Ogen]

So do you need all 3 too be totally utterly invisible? Thats overkill and a half.

[LoDownM]

I love when people drop their airdrops on themselves. Came around a corner just as the guy died from his air drop, got a pave low out of it :D

Anyone drop a nuke yet or get close to it? I get to 10 in row and generally die, never gonna get it.

[Fignuts]

I got 25 in a row, thanks to harriers and a pavlow, but I hadn't unlocked the nuke yet.

[OssMan]

Let's go ECG

[Kalyx triaD]

Played an offline session with Khuntri and one other. Pretty fun, WITHOUT PERKS. We really like Terminal. Probably gonna play this offline from now on.

UNLESS you guys are down with custom games with no perks.

?!?

[RoXer]

Kills from perks from airdrops DO NOT count toward your killstreak btw if anyone thought otherwise.

Dug myself out of a huge hole just now. I was about 150 kills back to get to 1:1 because I was dicking around with the riot shield trying to get those challenges. Dead even right now though thanks to a 42-13 game and another 30-something game.

G can attest to this.

[G]

no, he's lying

[G]

Played an offline session with Khuntri and one other. Pretty fun, WITHOUT PERKS. We really like Terminal. Probably gonna play this offline from now on.

UNLESS you guys are down with custom games with no perks.

?!?

boy oh boy that sounds fun

[Fignuts]

Kalyx what is your problem with perks exactly?

[Kalyx triaD]

Kalyx what is your problem with perks exactly?

When I play an FPS, there's certain elements that I believe makes for a genral shooting game in regards to gameplay. These elements can be found in real gun fights - no matter how outlandish a shooter may be (you still need to take cover in Halo).

Here comes CoD with Perks that negate these fundamentals. I will say one, and only one, scenario to elaborate my issues with this feature:

There's a sniper housed up in a window, right? He's picking off the other team willy-nilly and he's racking up points. Everything's all good. That is until somebody finds him and coordinates a flank with a teammate to shut him down. Now let's evaluate this event from a CoD game and a respectable game.

- In CoD, this fucker may have a Perk that keeps him invisible from radar even has he shoots his sniper rifle. GAY

- In CoD, even if someone were to get the drop on him, he may have an armor Perk that gives him an extra half-second to retaliate and take out his enemy.

- In CoD, things like flanking and ambushes are complicated by buffers that can change an otherwise expected outcome.

So what does Infinity Ward do? They make counter-Perks. All this does if create that exploitation arms race I spoke about - when it could be solved by NOT. HAVING. PERKS.

Perks make an otherwise great FPS (we had fun without them) into an annoying... joke. And in no way can someone say they had more fun than we did with Perks. That is of course if we were arguing fun. We're talking about game balance and elements that betray the underlying engine of a certain genre. It's like Madden Cards that do silly shit like increase fumbles and make certain players faster or stronger. From what I know the Madden community don't like that shit. And I feel like Perks in CoD make the game into a joke, riddled with 'chance' outcomes like, "I hope he doesn't have armor" or "I hope we can find this guy since he's not on radar."

This to me isn't skill, it's Fiesta Mode in Halo. A party feature, not to be taken as seriously as most of the CoD community takes it. I actually respect CoD as a military strategy game, but NOT with Perks on. Than it's Smash Bros.

[LoDownM]

Sounds like Kalyx sucks at first person shooters that aren't over hyped garbage like Halo.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm done here.

[thecc]

Sounds like Kalyx sucks at first person shooters that aren't over hyped garbage like Halo.burn

[Fignuts]

When I play an FPS, there's certain elements that I believe makes for a genral shooting game in regards to gameplay. These elements can be found in real gun fights - no matter how outlandish a shooter may be (you still need to take cover in Halo).

Because there are no radar jammers or extra armor in real gunfights?



There's a sniper housed up in a window, right? He's picking off the other team willy-nilly and he's racking up points. Everything's all good. That is until somebody finds him and coordinates a flank with a teammate to shut him down. Now let's evaluate this event from a CoD game and a respectable game.

- In CoD, this fucker may have a Perk that keeps him invisible from radar even has he shoots his sniper rifle. GAY

- In CoD, even if someone were to get the drop on him, he may have an armor Perk that gives him an extra half-second to retaliate and take out his enemy.

- In CoD, things like flanking and ambushes are complicated by buffers that can change an otherwise expected outcome.

It's not hard to find snipers. Even ones that aren't visible. And I like that there are radar jammers. It forces you to not completely rely on your radar.

There are no armor perks anymore so this is a moot point. And I never thought they were as big of a deal as otherrs did anyway.

What buffers are you talking about? I successfuly flank people all the time. By myself even.



Perks make an otherwise great FPS (we had fun without them) into an annoying... joke. And in no way can someone say they had more fun than we did with Perks.

This is a completely ridiculous statement.



This to me isn't skill, it's Fiesta Mode in Halo. A party feature, not to be taken as seriously as most of the CoD community takes it. I actually respect CoD as a military strategy game, but NOT with Perks on. Than it's Smash Bros.

Completely disagree. I think COD would still be fun without perks, but it wouldn't be played as tactical. At least not by most people. I think most would just be running around willy nilly looking for the nearest dot on the radar.

Perks make you think about every action you take. They force you to anticipate your opponent's actions, and devise ways of countering them. Good cod's have no wasted movement.

[Fignuts]

If one more person on my team uses a UAV, when the other team has already put up a counter uav, I'm gonna scream.

[Kalyx triaD]

Except we weren't running around all willy nilly looking for dots on a radar.

Like I said, I'm done. Enjoy the game.

[Fignuts]

And I said most people. Not all.

[Kalyx triaD]

Matter fact, fuck it:

- All this shit about how I don't like Perks because I'm not good at it? Fuck off. I've been managing buffers since before some of you bought your own videogames. That I wouldn't be able to manage special buffers in an FPS is absurd, but for reason I couldn't demonstrate here without a time machine. That also records video. Do not make this about my skill. It's off subject and it's false as fuck anyway.
- Perks makes a perfectly fine shooting game like MW2 more tactical the way Soulcalibur 4's Special Vs. Mode is more tactical with buffer items. In that it forces you to use something lest you fall victim to it when others use it. This isn't tactics, it's an exploitation arms race. Yeah, Special Mode on Soulcalibur sucks ass too.
- It's telling that with a choice to play the game with or without Perks, where the latter has you relying on your own instincts/planning/execution - you guys choose buffers that increase chance of success. It falls in line with the Playing To Win philosophy - coined by Street Fighter champ David Sirlin - who advocates the use of exploits and glitches to win. And an exploit is an exploit whether it's an official feature or not.

This shit would, and maybe should, lead to me facing off with some of you chaps on both terms. But to what end? I mean... I've played CoD4 with Perks and fared well. I 'got it', I just didn't agree with the design philosophy. I got shit for it back then from you guys and here we are again.

So if your conclusion is "Kalyx sucks at MW2", prove it. Betting you can't, which would lead to me being called a game/FPS-freak/nerd. And if I lose, in either style of play, I'd get shit. But really, don't say I suck without watching me play or playing me. Get that shit outta here.

[Kalyx triaD]

And I said most people. Not all.

Oh.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, ftr I never brought up your skill at all.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, and you said yourself that you fare well, and that saying you suck is bullshit.

Fact is good fps players will always do better than bad fps players. Even if the bad player has a stacked loadout against a good player without any good perks. None of them effect the game enough to downplay actual skill. They just offer different strategies, and ways of playing the game.

[Blitz]

When I play an FPS, there's certain elements that I believe makes for a genral shooting game in regards to gameplay. These elements can be found in real gun fights - no matter how outlandish a shooter may be (you still need to take cover in Halo).

Here comes CoD with Perks that negate these fundamentals.
How do perks negate fundamentals? Fundamental of a shooting game is...shooting. Not one perks negates this.

I will say one, and only one, scenario to elaborate my issues with this feature:

There's a sniper housed up in a window, right? He's picking off the other team willy-nilly and he's racking up points. Everything's all good. That is until somebody finds him and coordinates a flank with a teammate to shut him down. Now let's evaluate this event from a CoD game and a respectable game.

- In CoD, this fucker may have a Perk that keeps him invisible from radar even has he shoots his sniper rifle. GAY
To be fair, this didn't happen till MW2, and you seem to have formulated this argument beginning with MW1. Besides, there's still muzzle flare, kill cam, and flat out visual confirmation that lets you know he's there.

- In CoD, even if someone were to get the drop on him, he may have an armor Perk that gives him an extra half-second to retaliate and take out his enemy.
If your aim is better than his, it doesn't matter. It's about the player, not the perks. I'll take a shit player with Juggernaut (gone from MW2, incidentally), over an excellent player with no perks.

- In CoD, things like flanking and ambushes are complicated by buffers that can change an otherwise expected outcome.

I feel you on this. It's like when I see a Spiny in a Mario game. I see a turtle like thing walking on the ground, and my default action is to jump on it. But those fuckers have that spine shell buffer, and just kill me. WHAT TO THEY EXPECT ME TO DO, SLIGHTLY ALTER MY PLAY STYLE?!?!?!

And Jesus man, of course it changes outcomes. It's like if I was sneaking up on a guy and he turned and killed me with his rifle? WTF? I was expecting to kill him and he goes and changes that? FUCK INFINITY WARD AND THEIR WEAPON BULLSHIT.

So what does Infinity Ward do? They make counter-Perks. All this does if create that exploitation arms race I spoke about - when it could be solved by NOT. HAVING. PERKS.
This like saying Street Fighter shouldn't have special moves. Why can't everyone just use kicks and punches? But no, these fucking Fireballs come along that allow you to attack from across the screen! A fireball, of all things! Like you'd ever see that in a real fight. So they put in jumping to counter that, but then Shoryukens counter jump ins, and then...EXPLOITATION ARMS RACE!!!!!!!!!!

Perks make an otherwise great FPS (we had fun without them) into an annoying... joke. And in no way can someone say they had more fun than we did with Perks. That is of course if we were arguing fun. We're talking about game balance and elements that betray the underlying engine of a certain genre.
Except it is balanced. Yeah, snipers can be silenced and radar invisible, but the silencers do piddly damage. Unless you're capable of a head shot every time (and even then with a silencer on I don't believe it's a sure one shot kill), you're left having to take 2 or 3 shots from a distance with a relatively high recoil rifle. I was ready to kill when I got a silencer for my Intervention, but I took it off after one match where I couldn't even kill in 2 shots. Infinity Ward knows what they are doing. There's nothing in this game I can think of that breaks the balance.

As for the underlying engine bit, come on. Games are supposed to be innovative. If the underlying engine is always the same, what's the point in playing different games?

It's like Madden Cards that do silly shit like increase fumbles and make certain players faster or stronger. From what I know the Madden community don't like that shit. And I feel like Perks in CoD make the game into a joke, riddled with 'chance' outcomes like, "I hope he doesn't have armor" or "I hope we can find this guy since he's not on radar."
It's not chance. Skill. Again, to Street Fighter for an example. It's like playing someone and saying "Man I hope this guy doesn't know any combos".

This to me isn't skill, it's Fiesta Mode in Halo. A party feature, not to be taken as seriously as most of the CoD community takes it. I actually respect CoD as a military strategy game, but NOT with Perks on. Than it's Smash Bros.
It's not a military strategy game. It's a First Person Shooter.

[D Mac]

Yeah I finally got heartbeat sensor with silencer thanks to Bling, Coldblooded, and Ninja, Hardcore is now fun.

Also, I saw some dude at level 70 already. :eek:

WTF, did he play it 3 days straight since midnight launch?

[Fignuts]

I had fun with it, and I only have a silencer for my rpd.

Although s&d s a little too slow and methodical for my taste.

[D Mac]

They need Hardcore Free For All.

[Fignuts]

Or other hardcore objective games without the whole no respwn thing.

[LoDownM]

Yeah I finally got heartbeat sensor with silencer thanks to Bling, Coldblooded, and Ninja, Hardcore is now fun.

Also, I saw some dude at level 70 already. :eek:

WTF, did he play it 3 days straight since midnight launch?

I looked at the leader board around 8pm Tuesday and there was 5 people at 70 already.

[Ogen]

Matter fact, fuck it:

- All this shit about how I don't like Perks because I'm not good at it? Fuck off. I've been managing buffers since before some of you bought your own videogames. That I wouldn't be able to manage special buffers in an FPS is absurd, but for reason I couldn't demonstrate here without a time machine. That also records video. Do not make this about my skill. It's off subject and it's false as fuck anyway.
- Perks makes a perfectly fine shooting game like MW2 more tactical the way Soulcalibur 4's Special Vs. Mode is more tactical with buffer items. In that it forces you to use something lest you fall victim to it when others use it. This isn't tactics, it's an exploitation arms race. Yeah, Special Mode on Soulcalibur sucks ass too.
- It's telling that with a choice to play the game with or without Perks, where the latter has you relying on your own instincts/planning/execution - you guys choose buffers that increase chance of success. It falls in line with the Playing To Win philosophy - coined by Street Fighter champ David Sirlin - who advocates the use of exploits and glitches to win. And an exploit is an exploit whether it's an official feature or not.

This shit would, and maybe should, lead to me facing off with some of you chaps on both terms. But to what end? I mean... I've played CoD4 with Perks and fared well. I 'got it', I just didn't agree with the design philosophy. I got shit for it back then from you guys and here we are again.

So if your conclusion is "Kalyx sucks at MW2", prove it. Betting you can't, which would lead to me being called a game/FPS-freak/nerd. And if I lose, in either style of play, I'd get shit. But really, don't say I suck without watching me play or playing me. Get that shit outta here.

My conclusion is certainly not Kaylx sucks at MW2.

[G]

when i looked last night, guy on my list already put 1 day 6 hours into it. fuck guy come on take a breath

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Played a bit of online action last night and today. Not very good at it, when I see someone I start firing all over the place and they just turn and nail me in the head. I could get obsessed with getting good at it like I did with Killzone 2 for a while earlier this year.

Also similarly to Killzone 2 I might play the single player for about half an hour then forget about it.

[G]

wow the prison mission was awesome. the extraction was pretty cool. the shower looked a lot like that part from the rock.

[Ermaximus]

Finished the campaign on Veteran last night and all I gotta say is, fuck driving boats. Great story though. Also had no idea Lance Henrikson was the voice of Shepard. Now to work on the pain in the ass that is SpecOps. I'm looking for a co-op partner if anyone is intrested?

[Ermaximus]

wow the prison mission was awesome. the extraction was pretty cool. the shower looked a lot like that part from the rock.

Ah yea, the gulag was fun as shit. Totally didn't expect the end of that level though.

[RoXer]

Kalyx, I was planning on making different game modes for that tourney.

If I do like 1 month of a "No Perks" kind of mode, would you be in?

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Some bastard dropped a nuke when I was playing it earlier. Game over. Fuck that.

[Disturbed316]

Finished off campaign but have yet to get a game online. anyone else having difficulties connecting?

[G]

knife to the eye

[Ermaximus]

knife to the eye

I take it you just finished the campaign?

[G]

yah

[Fignuts]

Finished off campaign but have yet to get a game online. anyone else having difficulties connecting?

I did when I first got it. Then I noticed on the multiplayer menu that the NAT was set to strict which it usually isn't. So I ran a test on my connection in network settings of the dashboard, and when I started up the game again it said my NAT was set to open. And I havn't had a problem connecting since.

[D Mac]

I'm still on Act 2 of campaign. Playing on regular. I'm stretching it out. After I beat it I'll try it on Hardened and then the highest level.

[Ermaximus]

yah

Wasn't that boat section a real bitch and a half?

[G]

pit boss baby :cool:

[G]

Wasn't that boat section a real bitch and a half?

yah

[D Mac]

So is the higher levels of Spec Ops pretty crazy? I only unlocked Bravo and haven't tried it yet.

[Ermaximus]

So is the higher levels of Spec Ops pretty crazy? I only unlocked Bravo and haven't tried it yet.

Couldn't tell you. I've only played the first one as every other one requires a 2nd person and everyone on my friends list only wants to play S&D. They don't even care about the campaign.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, I've unlocked bravo and charlie and they are both really fun.

[D Mac]

I'm going down to my folks tomorrow and my nephew is going to be there with his console and this. My folks don't have internet, and there is no system link in Special Ops, only split screen. That sucks.

[Kalyx triaD]

Kalyx, I was planning on making different game modes for that tourney.

If I do like 1 month of a "No Perks" kind of mode, would you be in?

Me and Khuntri would be down for that, still on Silver though. Thanks for the consideration.

[Kalyx triaD]

Replies in red.

How do perks negate fundamentals? Fundamental of a shooting game is...shooting. Not one perks negates this.

This alone says a lot about what you think of gunfights, but I'll humor you.

To be fair, this didn't happen till MW2, and you seem to have formulated this argument beginning with MW1. Besides, there's still muzzle flare, kill cam, and flat out visual confirmation that lets you know he's there.

Okay.

If your aim is better than his, it doesn't matter. It's about the player, not the perks. I'll take a shit player with Juggernaut (gone from MW2, incidentally), over an excellent player with no perks.

So let's take two players of equal skill, one has Juggy the other does not? What will happen in their encounter?

I feel you on this. It's like when I see a Spiny in a Mario game. I see a turtle like thing walking on the ground, and my default action is to jump on it. But those fuckers have that spine shell buffer, and just kill me. WHAT TO THEY EXPECT ME TO DO, SLIGHTLY ALTER MY PLAY STYLE?!?!?!

Not the same.

And Jesus man, of course it changes outcomes. It's like if I was sneaking up on a guy and he turned and killed me with his rifle? WTF? I was expecting to kill him and he goes and changes that? FUCK INFINITY WARD AND THEIR WEAPON BULLSHIT.

Don't even know what you're getting at here. You think I'm talking about getting shot?

This like saying Street Fighter shouldn't have special moves. Why can't everyone just use kicks and punches? But no, these fucking Fireballs come along that allow you to attack from across the screen! A fireball, of all things! Like you'd ever see that in a real fight. So they put in jumping to counter that, but then Shoryukens counter jump ins, and then...EXPLOITATION ARMS RACE!!!!!!!!!!

Not the same. Keep in mind I already gave you a fighting game with a mode that compares to CoD's Perk system. Stay on point.

Except it is balanced. Yeah, snipers can be silenced and radar invisible, but the silencers do piddly damage. Unless you're capable of a head shot every time (and even then with a silencer on I don't believe it's a sure one shot kill), you're left having to take 2 or 3 shots from a distance with a relatively high recoil rifle. I was ready to kill when I got a silencer for my Intervention, but I took it off after one match where I couldn't even kill in 2 shots. Infinity Ward knows what they are doing. There's nothing in this game I can think of that breaks the balance.

Okay.

As for the underlying engine bit, come on. Games are supposed to be innovative. If the underlying engine is always the same, what's the point in playing different games?

Strawman; I respect individual engines.

It's not chance. Skill. Again, to Street Fighter for an example. It's like playing someone and saying "Man I hope this guy doesn't know any combos".

Again, not the same. Also, combos are based on execution not buffers. ...And what type of pussy would hope that anyway.

It's not a military strategy game. It's a First Person Shooter.

Semantics, call it what you will. Perks hurt an otherwise decent game.

Anyway, you guys may see me online but I'm not 'online' - just playing Spec-Ops or offline multiplayer.

[Kalyx triaD]

Spec-Ops is the soul of this game. Love it much. Unlocked Charlie just now. Doing everything on Veteran. Pretty tough.

[D Mac]

God damn I love you but shut the fuck up Kalyx.

[Fignuts]

Rangers theme is so badass.

also, campaign spoilers:

Am I the only one who was confused when price launched the nuke, and then he's back talking to shepard and everyone like everything is a-okay. When he said "good" I thought he betrayed me and sided with makarov. I mean I get it now, after replaying it, but the way the scene plays out, it makes it seem like price was switching sides.

[Fignuts]

Fucking hell. The one time I've seen an entire team play smart and stay inside while a gunship is in the air, was when I HAD THE GUNSHIP. Didn't get one damned kill with it. So dissapointing.

On a lighter note, I'm loving capture the flag in this.

[G]

Got my first 50+ kill game today. :cool:

[Fignuts]

Never gotten 50 kills. 48 is my highest.

[G]

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[Fignuts]

rofl

[G]

So for the longest time I thought you were Fignuttz over at Goozex, given the name and you're both from Colorado, until I read a post he made today.

if i leave negative feedback for a seller that flaked out on me, can i get my spot back at the front of the que? he just sent a trade cancellation, but i would prefer to just leave a negative feedback. he shouldn't be on goozex to begin with especially with this being his first trade. he's a scumbag. i want my spot back in the que as this surprisingly is the 2nd time someone has done this to me for the exact same game. they wait til time is almost up and then ask for a trade cancellation. i'm sick of it. it's a total waste of my time. i just want the stinkin' kingdom hearts for the ds. i do not want to accept the trade cancellation. can i leave negative stating no game received and get my token and points back and get my spot back in the que? or do i have to accept the cancellation to resume my spot back for this game? please help.

Don't really see you saying "i just want my stinkin' kingdom hearts for the ds."

[Fignuts]

Guy sounds like a gaylord, so no, not me.

A lot of times, I have signed up on something and fignuts was taken. There are a lot of us out there I guess.

All you need to know is that I am the best fignuts ever.

[LoDownM]

Fucking hell. The one time I've seen an entire team play smart and stay inside while a gunship is in the air, was when I HAD THE GUNSHIP. Didn't get one damned kill with it. So dissapointing.

On a lighter note, I'm loving capture the flag in this.

Got 2 helicopters on Salvage, 1 kill total. Fucking hated my life right then.

[G]

fucking disappointed with the space "mission". just remembered that

[Fignuts]

Objectives

1. Look at rocket
2. Die

[RoXer]

Gaz was Ghost, right?

Kinda bummed that he and Roach died. It would have made a better story if the 4 of them survived this going into the next game. And then maybe dramatically kill them off in that one.

[G]

lets see how long we can keep this going

[Fignuts]

ghost was not gaz. Gaz got shot point blank in the face, in the last one.

[G]

was hoping for a guest appearance from captain macmillan :(

[D Mac]

I am awesome and you fuckers fucking suck.

[Fignuts]

I definitely think macmillan will be in 3. He's gained too much cult status in the cod community, not to. Probably didn't show up in this one because they already had price making a surprise reappearance.

[Kalyx triaD]

Spec-Ops is the soul of this game. Love it much. Unlocked Charlie just now. Doing everything on Veteran. Pretty tough.

God damn I love you but shut the fuck up Kalyx.

:|

[Fignuts]

I don't think he was talking about that post.

[Fignuts]

Also, way to break the spoiler train, jerkface!

[Kalyx triaD]

I don't think he was talking about that post.

I don't there's any reason to tell a friend "shut the fuck up" when he's merely stating his point.

[Fignuts]

lol

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[LoDownM]

No fucking way.

[D Mac]

I don't there's any reason to tell a friend "shut the fuck up" when he's merely stating his point.

All I saw was a bunch of nonsense. I was drunk and a little harsh, but nonsense none the less.

[Kalyx triaD]

Lv. 9 now. I'm getting there...

[RoXer]

Kalyx, come play with us tonight.

Isn't MW2 free this weekend for silver member anyway? I think if you check the dashboard someone is promoting a free weekend of gold also.

But you're leveling up so obviously your somehow playing online, right?

[RoXer]

ghost was not gaz. Gaz got shot point blank in the face, in the last one.

No you're wrong. Ghost is definitley Gaz. Maybe it only nicked him in the face and left a horrible hideous scar hence why he always wears the ghost mask. And he was in the Mile High Club mission. And their voices are the same. Definitley him. It's going to be hard to come back from being burnt alive though. :(


Also G=sgand= Gary SANDerson

just sayin

[Ogen]

Heartbeat sensor is fecking amazing, lash bling on with that and the silencer add scrambler and stopping power and in business

[RoXer]

Now that I think about it, it would be great if IW kept bringing him back from the dead in every game in the series but would never explain why or how and only leave hints.

Like in MW1 he got shot in the face so he wears a mask in MW2 where he gets burnt alive so he wears like skin tight armor or something in MW3 where at the end he gets his hand chopped off so he has an artifical hand in MW4 and just keep adding to it.

I would honestly love that. Even if it is jumping the shark.

[RoXer]

Maybe one of the nerdier nerds can confirm this but does Cyclops do the voice for the Army Rangers?

[Fignuts]

If gaz was ghost they would have revealed it at some point.

It's time to move on, roxer. I know it's hard but gaz isn't coming back. We're all here for your support tho.

[RoXer]

Discover the background of Ghost in Modern Warfare 2: Ghost from Wildstorm
November 12, 2:15 PMGraphic Novel ExaminerKevin Smith

Yesterday saw the release of the first issue of Modern Warfare 2: Ghost, a new six-issue mini-series coinciding with Tuesday’s release of the wildly anticipated video game Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2. A first-person shooter developed by Infinity Ward and published by Activision, Modern Warfare 2 is the next installment in the popular Call of Duty franchise, and a direct sequel to Call of Duty 4.

Expanding upon the background of characters featured in the game, the comic focuses on Sergeant Simon Riley, codenamed Ghost, a member of an elite, multinational commando unit codenamed Task Force 141. While gamers are not in direct control of Ghost, he makes numerous appearances in the game, and is a central character involved with the progression of the storyline. Throughout the course of the comic published by Wildstorm, fans of the character will gain deeper insight into the mysteries surrounding the standout visual character from the game, and discover the origins of his skull decorated ski mask as well as the man behind it.

Written by Eisner Award-winning creator David Lapham, whose previous credits include his creator owned series Stray Bullets and a stint on Detective Comics, with art by Kevin West (Guardians of the Galaxy, Prime), the comic promises to retain the realistic experiences of warfare depicted in the game, as well as its distinct vision . Wildstorm has had success with other popular licensed video game properties such as World of Warcraft, Resident Evil, and Gears of War, and if sales bode well, fans can surely expect future installments in the Call of Duty series.


http://www.examiner.com/x-3094-Graphic-Novel-Examiner~y2009m11d12-Discover-the-background-of-Ghost-in-Modern-Warfare-2-Ghost-from-Wildstorm#


Simon Riley :(

[RoXer]

Maybe Gaz changed his name

[RoXer]

Trivia

* If you open the .iwd files on the main folder of the game you can see one folder called Airplane and a file saying Gaz. The voice is the same we can hear when the Mile High Club mission is loading. You can also hear a similar voice to Gaz's during "Mile High Club".

* Gaz's signature weapon is a G36C with a Red Dot Sight.

* Gaz is the name of a Russian vehicle.

* Gaz is the SAS announcer in Multiplayer.
* The IMDB (Internet Movie Database) says that the voice actor for Gaz in Call of Duty 4, Craig Fairbrass, provides the voice acting for "Ghost", this is most likely the callsign/codename for Gaz's replacement
* Some people believe that the character Ghost from Modern Warfare 2 is Gaz, and that he wears the mask to cover up the injuries gained at the end of Game Over . This is highly unlikely because Gaz is shot at the top of his head at point blank range with a .50 round.
* The name Gaz could be a reference to Gaz Hunter (aka Bravo Two Zero) who happens to be in the real S.A.S.
* Gaz is a word in French. In English, gaz mean gas.

[Kalyx triaD]

Kalyx, come play with us tonight.

Isn't MW2 free this weekend for silver member anyway? I think if you check the dashboard someone is promoting a free weekend of gold also.

But you're leveling up so obviously your somehow playing online, right?

I may be here (miami) tonight, But I can play online now.

[Fignuts]

Offline leveling up is seperate from online leveling up, roxer.

[G]

Trivia


* Gaz is a word in French. In English, gaz mean gas.

I can see how that has any relevance here

[Fignuts]

lol good lord

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[El Capitano Gatisto]

That's you Fignuts.

How the fuck do people get massive kill streaks? Most I've got is 5 I think. There's always some bellend sneaking up behind you.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Also, hate tossers on this who just play the game exactly the same no matter what the game is. People hiding in houses and sniping for Capture the Flag, for example.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah, had a frustrating CTF with shit like that.

[Fignuts]

If you can get 5 kills, and then manage to take out more than one person with the predator missile, you can call in a harrier, which gets you a lot of kills in a hurry.

[Fignuts]

Also, hate tossers on this who just play the game exactly the same no matter what the game is. People hiding in houses and sniping for Capture the Flag, for example.

Well if they are doing it near their flag, there's nothing wrong with that. Just good defense. But yeah, there are a lot of people who use objective based games to boost their killcount. Pretty stupid since you get a lot more experience for winning the fucking match.

[OssMan]

Confirmed best weapon is Riot Shield. Fuckers don't know what to do when I slowly crawl up to them about to push theyselves with my shield.

[Fignuts]

PROTIP: Semtex sticks to riot shields.

[Requiem]

Someone should buy me this for PS3 since I just got a PS3 but have no cool games.

[Kalyx triaD]

Confirmed best weapon is Riot Shield. Fuckers don't know what to do when I slowly crawl up to them about to push theyselves with my shield.

:)

PROTIP: Semtex sticks to riot shields.

:$

Although it's fun, eventually people will find out that knife counter thing. I've ran into guys who were mature enough to simply run away.

Is there any way to post stats?

[Kalyx triaD]

Pretty much content with my classes, "Tailored Swift", "Bum Rush", "Deus Ex Machina", "JFK Special", and "Hunter/Killer".

Had some games with Blitz. He's a straight shooter.

[G]

just went 15-2 on sd

[G]

i would have invited you but i am going to eat

[Kalyx triaD]

S'cool.

[LoDownM]

Been having a hell of a time today, keep ending up even for my kills/deaths.

[Fignuts]

Better than negative.

[D Mac]

There I got a headset from a friend. Happy now G?

[Fignuts]

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[G]

god he would not shut up about metallica. we get it diesel mac, you like them.

[Fignuts]

ahahahahahaha

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol:

[Kalyx triaD]

I've renamed my Hunter/Killer class, War Machine. Some of you should know why.

[G]

anything to do when you went 10/30?

[Kalyx triaD]

My War Machine class couples twin P90's with a speedy reload and fast walking speed, expressing my abandon of my usual conventions for straight run-n-gunning. The Stun Grenade adds to it's aggressive elements. The class/playstyle saved our team more than once, and I was happy since our session was the first time I put it to heavy usage.

Can't imagine why'd you choose to talk shit out of the blue. We were comrades just now.

[G]

i'm not talking shit? i'm breaking my comrade's balls

[Kalyx triaD]

:(

[D Mac]

All we need is Guitar Hero Metallica 2 or Rock Band Metallica and we are set. :y:

[Kalyx triaD]

I have thought of a sequel to GH:Met that would have live recordings (Creeping Death is epic live) and maybe some special material from the band themselves. It would be awesome and Activision can bank on selling that baby.

[Fignuts]

Good night for me. Not one match that I didn't get 17-30 kills, and 3-10 deaths. Even got 2,000 something points in domination for singlehandedly capturing all the control points for me team. Unfortunately the rest of my team was awful. Normally I don't get frustrated with that, because I have bad games too, sometimes, but for like 5 matches in a row, there was no one on my team even close to my score, or any of the top players on the other team either. Sucks when you do a great job and the rest of the team is more concerned with camping and boosting their kill count than winning the match.

[The Genius]

any comprehensive sites out there that list all the emblems and call signs?

[Fignuts]

Not yet I don't think. Has anyone else gotten the ghost emblem?

I got it after a match where I went unkilled, and got the highest score. More to do with how bad the other team was, than my own skill, sadly.

[LoDownM]

You mean the one of ghost's head?

[Fignuts]

Yeah. It might have unlocked when I ranked up in the same match, and it was just coincidance. That's why I'm asking.

[LoDownM]

I got it pretty early, 14ish. Been using that with the Ghostrider callsign, was using Kleptomaniac till I got that one on locked

[LoDownM]

14ish is just a guess, had it for awhile now.

[G]

Finished the first act on Veteran. Not too difficult, but the last mission where you chase the guy through the Favela took me forever. Such a fucking bitch. Too many damn guys. Must have died 57 times.

[G]

Anyone know how to get the Predator missile animated icon?

[LoDownM]

Finish the challenge for using it x amount of times I think.

[G]

makes sense

[D Mac]

Saw a couple of dudes on level 29 of prestige already. Their 360s must be burning up.

[The Destroyer]

I really need to get better at this, I haven't managed anything anything better than a 4 kill streak.

Mainly thanks to some players having absurd accuracy and reaction times.

[Kalyx triaD]

It'll come to you soon enough. Pretty soon you'll the irrational reaction time of a rape victim in the boys locker room.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Tried to play a bit this evening (on PS3), got an update required message. Patch downloads ok, then has an error during install and now the game won't load at all. Anyone else have this problem? What a load of bollocks.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Oh never mind, tried downloading again and now it's fine.

[Kalyx triaD]

Does anyone know how to play objective gametypes?!?!?!? Jesus Christ the CoD community have shit else but reflex aiming. There's no sense of 'capture team/defense team' during CTF, everyone just runs around. Nobody flanks for shit in Domination, they just keep going the way to a post and hope the enemy forgot about them 15 seconds before. People seem over faggoty for their KD ratio no matter waht gametype they play. Keep in mind the scoring systems weighs priority objectives, which is why I would have the top score in a game while having a negative KD ratio.

The funny thing is, if I so dare mention Halo everyone in the lobby would shit on me. But in Halo, people actually play objective games as they should (more often than not, anyway). Nobody plays the clock when they're ahead in CTF, this in particular pisses me off. We're two ahead, but hey, "let's try to catch the flag some more anyway for shits and giggles!" Right? Wrong. No defense give the other team infiltration options and after everybody spawns from sucking so bad the flag thief is just about home.

I've had bad games with other shooters, but in the community that stressed how hardcore their game was over others, I expected more strategy . My buddy plays SOCOM on PS3 and that community puts just about any other to shame in terms of coordination and execution. I'd think CoD would be like that.

Anyway, I can't wait til I dual wield some Desert Eagles. There's something satisfying about spraying the shit out of a loser.

[Fignuts]

Good night for me. Not one match that I didn't get 17-30 kills, and 3-10 deaths. Even got 2,000 something points in domination for singlehandedly capturing all the control points for me team. .

yeah.

Note that I got more kills than the rest of my team by actually trying to meet the objective of the match. Everyone else was just boosting their kill count.

[The Jayman]

Does anyone know how to play objective gametypes?!?!?!? Jesus Christ the CoD community have shit else but reflex aiming. There's no sense of 'capture team/defense team' during CTF, everyone just runs around. Nobody flanks for shit in Domination, they just keep going the way to a post and hope the enemy forgot about them 15 seconds before. People seem over faggoty for their KD ratio no matter waht gametype they play. Keep in mind the scoring systems weighs priority objectives, which is why I would have the top score in a game while having a negative KD ratio.

The funny thing is, if I so dare mention Halo everyone in the lobby would shit on me. But in Halo, people actually play objective games as they should (more often than not, anyway). Nobody plays the clock when they're ahead in CTF, this in particular pisses me off. We're two ahead, but hey, "let's try to catch the flag some more anyway for shits and giggles!" Right? Wrong. No defense give the other team infiltration options and after everybody spawns from sucking so bad the flag thief is just about home.

I've had bad games with other shooters, but in the community that stressed how hardcore their game was over others, I expected more strategy . My buddy plays SOCOM on PS3 and that community puts just about any other to shame in terms of coordination and execution. I'd think CoD would be like that.

Anyway, I can't wait til I dual wield some Desert Eagles. There's something satisfying about spraying the shit out of a loser.

I feel you on this Kalyx. I hate when people get so anal about their K/D ratio. I was playing HQ the other night and went something like 19 kills and 26 deaths. There was a shithead on my team who went 3/2 b/c he was camped the whole time not even trying to help capture/destroy the HQ. As soon as the game ended the first thing out of his mouth when we got back to the lobby was "Well I was the only person on my team that went positive" and I was like WTF dude.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

It is a bit fucking stupid at times. It helps when there's a couple of guys on the mic who are in it to play properly and they tell other people where to go.

Levels like Favela and Karachi are a fucking mess if you have a bunch of dickheads on your team.

Don't know why the campers et al. just don't stick to Deathmatch?

[Fryza]

I feel bad for the house in Estate. It was a nice home 'til some fuckjobs ran in and started shooting the place up.

[Johnny McNasty]

Yeah it is a pain in the ass when my team work on nothing but their kill count while playing objective games. Even worse when the dumb asses are my friends. :mad:

I wish they had more hardcore game modes, loved hardcore headquarters from 4, and hardcore ffa from 5. Speaking of ffa what is with there only being like 4 maps to play ffa on. I see how some of them might be too big,(derail) but some others would work just fine.(karachi) Hope when the new map packs come out they're all playable on ffa. Also demolition is my favorite new game mode definitely, nothing like setting the bomb at both targets at the same time and watching the other team freak out.

Oh and akimbo lever action shotguns are stupendously bad ass.

[Emperor Smeat]

Potential huge news is Activision might be thinking of charging to play Call of Duty multiplayer in either new modes or future CoD games. It would be similar to play World of Warcraft's monthly fee.

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5870

[Emperor Smeat]

I've had bad games with other shooters, but in the community that stressed how hardcore their game was over others, I expected more strategy . My buddy plays SOCOM on PS3 and that community puts just about any other to shame in terms of coordination and execution. I'd think CoD would be like that.

Anyway, I can't wait til I dual wield some Desert Eagles. There's something satisfying about spraying the shit out of a loser.

I think thats the problem, they say they are the most hardcore shooter players but only in getting the most kills/best ratio. Instead of viewing the perks as strategy, its seen as extra kill potential.

Its a common problem with a lot of shooters that try strategy, most end up just as run-n-gun or campfests. A few like SOCOM, Halo, and Team Fortress end up succeeding since either strategy is built in by the way of a class-system or by how the levels are designed.

[The Destroyer]

Yeah I'm beginning to get frustrated with people just in it for the kills. Was irritating in a Domination game when 3 of us were trying to grab a heavily defended position B and half the team was just sitting around by C waiting to snipe kills. All this while the other side also held A, so basically they were helping us lose.

[Ogen]

It really is a rather fantastic game though isn't it, just great fun. Must start using a different gun at some stage, been using the very first gun the whole time but that with the heartbeat sensor and silencer through Bling Perk is just so fucking amazing. Almost at level 25 that'll be cold blooded unlocked and I go into my uber stealthy hardcore ways

[The Destroyer]

I'm having great success with a sniper rifle and the heartbeat sensor.

I'm not entirely sure why it's letting me use the heartbeat sensor in the preset sniper class when I haven't actually unlocked it yet to use in custom classes, but who am I to argue?

[Ogen]

Some of the pro versions of the perks are a bit shit, just unlocked Scrambler Pro and it simply delays claymores detonating when you walk by. I don't think I've seen a claymore in this at all really.

[The Destroyer]

I've seen a few. Most often on Highrise to guard the sneaky route into one side of the building.

[G]

I'm having great success with a sniper rifle and the heartbeat sensor.

I'm not entirely sure why it's letting me use the heartbeat sensor in the preset sniper class when I haven't actually unlocked it yet to use in custom classes, but who am I to argue?

Short range perk on a long range gun? How is that giving you great success

[El Capitano Gatisto]

It really is a rather fantastic game though isn't it, just great fun. Must start using a different gun at some stage, been using the very first gun the whole time but that with the heartbeat sensor and silencer through Bling Perk is just so fucking amazing. Almost at level 25 that'll be cold blooded unlocked and I go into my uber stealthy hardcore ways

I had that, but if you take Cold Blooded you lose Stopping Power. Tried that for one game and got sick of having to pump a million bullets into people only for them to nail me with a couple of shots. Doesn't really get any better than Heartbeat Sensor, Scrambler and Thermo scope on your Sniper rifle, with a souped up machine pistol for running around the place.

[Fignuts]

Short range perk on a long range gun? How is that giving you great success

Tells you when someone is trying to sneak up on you.

[G]

stop coming at me with this common sense

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Short range perk on a long range gun? How is that giving you great success

The range on the Heartbeat Sensor is long enough, plus let's you see other dickheads hiding in buildings.

Not much good for the city levels though because it flags up people everywhere and they are on different floors. Becomes more of a problem than a help then.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Tells you when someone is trying to sneak up on you.

That too, especially if you're guarding a point in Domination.

[Ogen]

I had that, but if you take Cold Blooded you lose Stopping Power. Tried that for one game and got sick of having to pump a million bullets into people only for them to nail me with a couple of shots. Doesn't really get any better than Heartbeat Sensor, Scrambler and Thermo scope on your Sniper rifle, with a souped up machine pistol for running around the place.

Yeah but be playing Hardcore then I think and in Hardcore you don't really need to shoot them much, first shooter will win nearly all the time.

[G]

finished act 2 on veteran earlier. this really is easy stuff. teammates do most of the work while i hide and watch the flank. gonna hopefully finish by the weekend.

[OssMan]

This one mission takes place in the suburbs of Northern Virginia. Fuck yeah

[Fignuts]

finished act 2 on veteran earlier. this really is easy stuff. teammates do most of the work while i hide and watch the flank. gonna hopefully finish by the weekend.

Helps that there is apparently no infinite enemies in this one.

[G]

and grenades aren't spammed

[G]

finished that shit. only real problem was the fucking boat part getting shot the fuck up. gotta find that "safe" route otherwise you're fucked

[G]

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[Vietnamese Crippler]

I miss the dedicated PC servers :(

[LoDownM]

lol. The AC130 should fire like that all the time.