Official WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2010 Thread

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Hasn't been officially announced yet, but it's WM weekend so this is usually when the thread starts.

Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions for the next SD game?

I thought SVR09 was pretty solid overall...hoping they don't completely regress for the next game unless they plan on totally rebuilding the game engine (which they won't).</font>

[Kalyx triaD]

In all honesty the wishlist from last year pretty much still applies.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Also, time to do my annual WM roster prediction that I do every year. I'll go with a roster of 60 (including divas)...and assume they will continue to omit Legends:

1. Batista
2. Beth Phoenix
3. The Big Show
4. The Brian Kendrick
5. Brie Bella
6. Carlito
7. Charlie Haas
8. Chavo Guerrero
9. Chris Jericho
10. Christian
11. CM Punk
12. Cody Rhodes
13. Edge
14. Evan Bourne
15. Ezekiel Jackson
16. Festus
17. Finlay
18. Gail Kim
19. The Great Khali
20. Hurricane Helms
21. Jack Swagger
22. JBL
23. Jeff Hardy
24. Jesse
25. Jimmy Wang Yang
26. John Cena
27. John Morrison
28. JTG
29. Kane
30. Kelly Kelly
31. Kofi Kingston
32. Maria
33. Mark Henry
34. Maryse
35. Matt Hardy
36. Melina
37. Michelle McCool
38. Mickie James
39. Mike Knox
40. The Miz
41. Mr. Kennedy
42. Mr. McMahon
43. MVP
44. Nikki Bella
45. Primo
46. Randy Orton
47. Rey Mysterio
48. R-Truth
49. Santino Marella
50. Shad
51. Shane McMahon
52. Shawn Michaels
53. Shelton Benjamin
54. Ted DiBiase
55. Tommy Dreamer
56. Triple H
57. Umaga
58. The Undertaker
59. Vladimir Kozlov
60. William Regal

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10 divas, just one less from last year...Gail Kim might be a bit of a stretch so if she doesn't make it I could sooner see her spot going to Candice or Layla (since their models are there from last year).

A decent amount of tag teams, figuring they want to continue pushing that revised tag match (hence why Zeke is a playable character)...the only active tag team I've omitted is Hawkins & Ryder since they haven't had a match in ages.

When filling out the remaining jobber slots, I REALLY wanted to finally get Jamie Noble into his first SD game, but I could see them getting lazy and picking Charlie Haas and Jimmy Wang Yang solely due to them already being in the game from last year and it's no secret they reuse models on occasion.

I have no life.</font> :(

[Kalyx triaD]

Explain to me the idea of 'roster predictions'. They aren't roster wishlists so I always thought about what the idea behind them were.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Explain to me the idea of 'roster predictions'. They aren't roster wishlists so I always thought about what the idea behind them were.

It's probably along the lines of people wanting to predict what the rosters will be.

[Kalyx triaD]

But... why?

Forget it, I suppose from your end you feel like you're wasting time explaining to me so carry on.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>THQ/Yukes have made some more than questionable roster decisions in the past...mostly involving tag teams (up until last year they had a remarkable streak of 4 or 5 years in a row in which the current tag champs failed to make the roster cut) so it's become a source of speculation and unpredictability as to who is actually going to get in.

For years it was thought that the roster deadline was sometime in the summer but in past years it's been proven that the deadline is no later than the week after WM.

I actually did really well in my predictions last year...correctly guessing 49 out of the 50 active wrestlers that wound up in the game (only one I missed was Jamie Noble, hence my reluctance to predict him this year).</font>

[Xero]

I picked up SvR09 this year (after skipping 08) and I must say it's quite a good game. They need to improve a few things, though.

- Interrupting moves.

- Better pin and submission interruption.

- Stopping your own taunts (I do not understand why they took that out).

-Weapons physics. I'd especially like to see the ability to do moves on grounded chairs and whatnot, but there's something still off about them. 09 was still a huge improvement over 07 though.

- Ladder Matches. They need to revamp this entirely. I hate how it takes an unrealistic amount of time to get it off. Honestly, I liked the old style of hanging onto the belt until you got it much more than the meter. Not saying they need to go that way but they need to make grabbing the belt at any time possible. Also, better ladder physics.

- Tables should be more accessible for any slam-like move. The table-specific moves are fine but the old system, while glitchy, allowed for much more possibilities.

- Improved CAW. I understand why you can't use music online (copyright problems) and I understand why you can't use lettering online (pretty hard to censor something someone puts on their character), but no logos, for example, is a bit ridiculous. Also, an overall rehaul, but that's always needed.

I think the best way to improve CAW would be to build the actual wrestlers (aside from the faces, they can just use scans as the current face system is pretty robust as-is) in the same tool that's used for CAW. It would force them to improve the overall quality of the attires.

- Unlimited CAW spots. Let's face it, there's no reason to limit it now. (Do they? I didn't even notice.)

- Custom trons, built off the Highlight Reel engine.

- Bring back Create a Taunt.

- Improvements to Create a Move (best new feature in 09 by far).

- Allow you to play any match in any arena. I sort of see the point of the Rumble being only in the Rumble arena, but the Extreme matches ONLY in the ECW arena?

Honestly, I think they have the gameplay down. There are a few sections that can be improved, but the wrestling system itself is pretty great.

They really need to borrow more from the DOR system.

[DAMN iNATOR]

They really need to borrow more from the DOR system.

With a few notable exceptions, hopefully:

- NO Submission Mini-Game, where you have to try and guess what type of submission your opponent chose to put on you when they are applying a submission hold to you (in one of the DoR games, when you had a submission applied to you, the other person pressed up, down, left or right, each direction representing a different type of submission hold. You then had to guess which submission hold was chosen, and if wrong, struggle/fight your way out of the submission)

- NO longer than necessary load times. I don't see how this would become an issue, but then again, one never knows.

Some things I WOULD like to see:

+ Animated in-ring announcers when they are introducing the match and the wrestlers, instead of having them just stand there. The only time I've ever seen them move is when Kennedy shoos them out of the ring to announce himself.

+ Working secondary trons that are capable of functioning like we see on TV. Have the space on the edge of the display show the wrestlers' secondary tron instead of just a logo.

+ Custom art layers for your C-A-W's instead of pre-made logos from T-Shirts, etc. Give us what the DoR series had: a Paint like application where we have a 4-quadrant field ___ pixels × ___ pixels to create our own logos for use as tattoos, t-shirt logos, face paint etc. instead of giving us those crappy font things.

[Krimzon7]

SVR 10 will be okay. I want them to fix the CAF portion so that we can start from various positions. Not a bad first attempt, though. I would like to se more clothing/logo options for CAW attire. AND BRING BACK GM MODE

[Funky Fly]

I picked up SvR09 this year (after skipping 08) and I must say it's quite a good game. They need to improve a few things, though.

- Interrupting moves.

- Word, it makes the matches more dramatic

- Better pin and submission interruption.

-Yeah, the whole cutscene cut away is hit or miss because of the hotspot requirement.

- Stopping your own taunts (I do not understand why they took that out).

- OMG Yes. So annoying when you are stuck.

-Weapons physics. I'd especially like to see the ability to do moves on grounded chairs and whatnot, but there's something still off about them. 09 was still a huge improvement over 07 though.

- Actually, if you have the hardcore ability you can do things like DDT people onto chairs.

- Ladder Matches. They need to revamp this entirely. I hate how it takes an unrealistic amount of time to get it off. Honestly, I liked the old style of hanging onto the belt until you got it much more than the meter. Not saying they need to go that way but they need to make grabbing the belt at any time possible. Also, better ladder physics.

- Yes. I had one MITB match and it took over an hour because of the meter. :nono:

- Tables should be more accessible for any slam-like move. The table-specific moves are fine but the old system, while glitchy, allowed for much more possibilities.

- Yeah, it would be cool if only certain more powerful slams worked. And there is no reason you can't have both, but have the table specific moves activated with a finisher.

- Improved CAW. I understand why you can't use music online (copyright problems) and I understand why you can't use lettering online (pretty hard to censor something someone puts on their character), but no logos, for example, is a bit ridiculous. Also, an overall rehaul, but that's always needed.

- Word. The CAWs looked a lot better this year, at least, tho. But they still need to have a lot of the logos and stuff back that they got rid of. Again, a little borrowing from DoR (especially for the masks and create a logo) would be great.

I think the best way to improve CAW would be to build the actual wrestlers (aside from the faces, they can just use scans as the current face system is pretty robust as-is) in the same tool that's used for CAW. It would force them to improve the overall quality of the attires.

- Unlimited CAW spots. Let's face it, there's no reason to limit it now. (Do they? I didn't even notice.)

- Custom trons, built off the Highlight Reel engine.

- Yeah, no reason it can't be done now.

- Bring back Create a Taunt.

- They had this before? Sweet. Yeah, bring it back. :mad:

- Improvements to Create a Move (best new feature in 09 by far).

- Yeah, they could add a bunch more animations so we can make some of those insane indy/Japan/Mexico moves. Twould also be nice if they had some moves end in submissions and the ability to flip the animations horizontally like with the strikes.

- Allow you to play any match in any arena. I sort of see the point of the Rumble being only in the Rumble arena, but the Extreme matches ONLY in the ECW arena?

- lol wut? Hadn't noticed that. Dumb.

Honestly, I think they have the gameplay down. There are a few sections that can be improved, but the wrestling system itself is pretty great.

They really need to borrow more from the DOR system.

- This struggle submission shit is kinda hit or miss. And why do other submissions not make you tap out? I like DoR's system of submissions being a button mash battle with the meter being forced left or right by the players. For all the submissions that aren't SS they should put that in. Additionally, in DoR it was a nice touch that some submissions were better than others: Flair's Figure 4 > regular Figure 4 > basic leg lock, etc


I'm inclined to agree with this for the most part. Gonna add and retort in red.

[Funky Fly]

With a few notable exceptions, hopefully:


+ Working secondary trons that are capable of functioning like we see on TV. Have the space on the edge of the display show the wrestlers' secondary tron instead of just a logo.

Can't agree more. Entrances are so much more dynamic and vibrant now because of them. No excuse not to make use of them.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

They should just do Day of Reckoning with No Mercy's ladder system (complete with the hilarious still holding onto the ladder as it falls thing).

Or start again. It's pretty horrible right now.

[Xero]

Why is one of the animations when falling off the ladder the "crotch yourself on the top rope" fall yet they can't get crotched? That has been bothering me ever since they put it in years ago.

[Funky Fly]

They should just do Day of Reckoning with No Mercy's ladder system (complete with the hilarious still holding onto the ladder as it falls thing).

Or start again. It's pretty horrible right now.

Yeah, that was awesome back in the day. And that fucking bounce that followed. No Mercy. Good times. :)

[Disturbed316]

They need to port over the Rumble and Hell in a Cell form Legends, they were real improvements over previous games versions.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I still prefer DoR's cell for sure.

[Xero]

They need the proper sizing for the cell (with real moves as well as cage-related moves). I loved DOR's cell but always hated the fact that you had to break an entire section to get out.

[Funky Fly]

It was only 3 Irish whips to break it. :?:

Plus, Last Ride thru the cage followed by moonsault off the top of the cage for the 3 = WIN.

[The Gold Standard]

They need to change the submission system, or at least give a better explanation on how to get out of submissions.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

And make all submission holds able to, you know, make people submit.

[D Mac]

I've come not to expect anything from these games anymore.

[Xero]

If they put Sid in the game and a special shitting mini game you'd be all over it.

"Align the analog sticks to hold your shit in, lest you make a big mess."

[D Mac]

ARRRRRG XERO I WILL HIT MY KEYBOARD IN ANGER NOW WITH MY FIST JKLKKUKJCCGGHBB

:mad:

[Xero]

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[PorkSoda]

Here's a new concept to GM mode....

What bothered me about the other GM modes was the fact that you could have 2 guys whos popularity is in the 90s and on a major PPV like Summerslam, have them go at it, and the match can have one guy dominate for 30 seconds and then be over, and it will be a 5 star rating and on WWE.com they'll say its a classic. Thats not a classic. Popularity shouldn't matter how good the match is.

They should add a feature where if you are going to have a classic match, certain objectives must be met. For example, a classic should have something like "Perform at least 5 strike attacks. At least 10 strong grapples. Receive 10 strong grapples. Attempt a submission. Kick out after 2. Do taunt" or something like that. Not only where you give punishment, but you take it as well to make it a hard fought match. Savage and Steamboat tore the house down because they went back and forth. Hope it makes sense....

[Kane Knight]

Here's a new concept to GM mode....

What bothered me about the other GM modes was the fact that you could have 2 guys whos popularity is in the 90s and on a major PPV like Summerslam, have them go at it, and the match can have one guy dominate for 30 seconds and then be over, and it will be a 5 star rating and on WWE.com they'll say its a classic. Thats not a classic. Popularity shouldn't matter how good the match is.

They should add a feature where if you are going to have a classic match, certain objectives must be met. For example, a classic should have something like "Perform at least 5 strike attacks. At least 10 strong grapples. Receive 10 strong grapples. Attempt a submission. Kick out after 2. Do taunt" or something like that. Not only where you give punishment, but you take it as well to make it a hard fought match. Savage and Steamboat tore the house down because they went back and forth. Hope it makes sense....

Or just use the current star system.

But them the WWE.com shit was always so totally out of sync, so I can't say I give a shit if they do it or don't. Just saying.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Man, I just played a 4-way Last Man Standing match in DoR2. This needs to come back as well as interruptable moves.

HHH had Christain in a pedigree and I used my CAWs running bicycle kick special on HHH while he was in mid air and knocked him the fuck out. I love how chaotic those matches are.

[Funky Fly]

Yeah, good times.

[Kalyx triaD]

Some of the most epic moments in professional wrestling happened in the DoR2 videogame.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Anybody else here wish they'd also bring back Create A Championship/Create A Belt or whatever it was called that was in SvR and SvR '06? It just kind of vanished with each of the past 3 editions with no real explanation as to why.

They also really need to make online more of an enjoyable experience. It's decent right now, but they should take more time to ensure there are less bugs/glitches and such. Also, it would be great if you could have any match type online, not just an assorted handful picked by THQ.

[Xero]

You'd think they'd be able to up the Rumble participants to 8 by now, at least.

Guess it'll take five gens or so before we're seeing 30 man battle royals.

[Kalyx triaD]

Actually the online mode is sub par.

I cannot condemn the exclusion of a Party System model (or at least something similar) enough. Any game that professes to have a quality online mode and not have a party system is fail, especially with a "everybody done, get out" lobby system like SvR's. All I need to hear is that a game doesn't have a set up like that for me to safely conclude that the online mode is utter ass (and I'd be right). I won't rag on the lag, because the game's pace is such a thing that it doesn't hurt from it. This isn't a 60fps dependent game here.

[Kane86]

I want them to bring legends back and bring back more of them.

[PorkSoda]

Or just use the current star system.

But them the WWE.com shit was always so totally out of sync, so I can't say I give a shit if they do it or don't. Just saying.

isnt that the point I made about popularity?

Legends of Wrestlemania has a perfect example. In the Relive section, Hogan vs Bundy, you have to 1. Win the knuckle fight. 2. Make Bundy bleed. 3. Do Hogans finish. 4. Prevent Bundy from escaping. 5. escape and win.

prevent Bundy from escaping....theres you being on the defense. Yeah....if you have that in GM mode during a regular match and THAT determines how good teh match is....:yes:

[Lux]

Ballin!

[The Mackem]

Wishlist:

A finished game for the Wii which has the same features as the PS2 at the very least and at the most, the same as the 360 and PS3.

I still haven't bought 09 because of only having a PS2 and Wii, and either way I lose out :(

[Kane Knight]

isnt that the point I made about popularity?

Legends of Wrestlemania has a perfect example. In the Relive section, Hogan vs Bundy, you have to 1. Win the knuckle fight. 2. Make Bundy bleed. 3. Do Hogans finish. 4. Prevent Bundy from escaping. 5. escape and win.

prevent Bundy from escaping....theres you being on the defense. Yeah....if you have that in GM mode during a regular match and THAT determines how good teh match is....:yes:

Except that's not the current system they're using, it's a much more specific restricted system that would strike the majority of the fanbase as utterly retarded because they don't want to replay matches verbatim.

At that point, you might as well just skin Ninja Blade with wrestlers, since it'll have the same feel as all them QTEs.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yeah god, the less taken from LoW the better. Jesus christ it's as if some of you people want another terrible game.

[Loose Cannon]

I want a wrestling game where I can book my own storylines, TV, PPV's and have it play out in the game. and real people can watch my show and your goal is to have your ratings stay high, while maintaining positive cash flow.

you can future endeavor people through the year and hire new people. And you have the option of buying out other gamer's companies who are doing shitty.


will this be included in this game?

[Loose Cannon]

so kind of like a really extended version of GM mode

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Ballin!

Thank you for your astounding contribution.

[LuigiD]

Did anyone ever play Legends Of Wrestling 2?
The game was not very good overall but I thought the career mode was excellent.
You started out by performing at high school gyms, then local arenas, etc. There was tons and tons of different story lines for each region. Eventually, you got good enough and got to compete with the big guys like Hogan and Hart.
I would love to see something like that for caws.
They focus too much attention on the voice overs. Yeah it makes the experience much nicer but I personally don't think it is that big of a deal. I rather have a more solid season mode like Smackdown 4 and 5 than the voice overs.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah god, the less taken from LoW the better. Jesus christ it's as if some of you people want another terrible game.

lol

[Lux]

Thank you for your astounding contribution.

Your's was simply amazing, I don't know how you do it, one day I want to be just like you!

[FourFifty]

I would like to see more wrestlers have a road to Wrestlemania storyline, and even a few CAW road to Wrestlemania storylines. Make half of them face only, and half of them heel only. Hell, let's just say 4 story lines each, and let two of them be mirrors (for example- A new kid wants to prove himself by beating The Undertaker at Wrestlemania, but how would a face do it, and how would a heel?).
I liked the drama that the road to Wrestlemania has, but no no CAW road to Wrestlemania kinda sucked.

[Xero]

I say make a Road to WrestleMania, use text except for a select few. The ones without voice overs could get randomly generated feuds.

[Funky Fly]

The only really redeeming things about LoW 2 were that you had multiple moves from basic suplex/slam start positions and that you could chain attacks into pins or submissions.

[LuigiD]

The only really redeeming things about LoW 2 were that you had multiple moves from basic suplex/slam start positions and that you could chain attacks into pins or submissions.
Absolutely.
I loved turning a scoop slam into a choke hold.
It was terribly cool when you got around to doing it and pulling off your finisher due to the consequence of reversing a move.

[Kane86]

LOW:Showdown was the best one. I liked beign able to wrestle with Abdullah seeing he is no game at all.

[Zaiko Rose]

hey guys this is my first post here! i like this site cause it's a(n) chance to talk to other gamers & see what you talk about! also here's my suggestion list for SvR2010 so please no negative comments/reviews,if you have a few suggestions of your own then go ahead & post them!


RAW Roster

John Cena
Chris Jerico
CM Punk
William Regal
Bastista
Charlie H
Goldust
Cody Rhodes
Dolph Ziggler
Hacksaw Jim Duggan
Jamie Noble
Kane(Masked Kane alt attire/entrance)
Randy Orton
Sim Snuka
JBL
JTG
Kofi Kingston
Manu
Rey Mysterio
Mike Knox
Shad
Ted DiBiase Jr
Shawn Michales
Mr.McMahon
Michale Cole(Annoucer Only)
Santino Marella
Jerry Lawler(Announcer Only)

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SmackDown Roster

Jeff Hardy
Shelton Benjamin
Carlito
Primo
R-Truth
Big Show
DH Smith (Downloadable SuperStar)[At the moment this is okay]
Curt Hawkins
Edge
Ezekiel Jackson
Festus
Hurricane Helms
Jesse
Festus
Jimmy Wang Yang
Jim Ross(Announcer Only)
Tazz (Announcer Only)
Justin Roberts(Announcer Only)
Kung Fu Naki
MVP
Mr.Kenndey
The Great Khali
Undertaker(Debute alt attire, Biker alt attire)
Triple H(DX alt attire)
Ryan Braddock(Downloadable SuperStar)
Scotty Goldman(Downloadable SuperStar)
Brian Kendrick
Vladimir Kozlov
Zack Ryder
Umaga

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ECW Roster

Jack Swagger
The Boogeyman
The Miz
John Morrison
Chavo Guerrero
DJ Gabriel
Evan Bourne
Finaly
Hornswoggle (Manager Only)(Tag-Team Partner With FINALY ONLY)
Matt Hardy
Paul Burchill
Ricky Ortiz
Tommy Dreamer
Mark Henry
Booker T
Kurt Angle

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WCW Roster

2 Cold Scorpio
Tank Abbot
Abdulah the Butcher
Johnny Ace
Brian Adams
Chris Adams
Arn Anderson
Ole Anderson
Animal
Brad Armstrong
Scott Armstrong
Steve Armstrong
David Arquette
Horace Hogan
Barry Horrowitz
Prince Iaukea
J C Ice
Chris Kanyon
Billy Kidman
Kid Romeo Awesome Kong
King Kong
Evan Korageous
Lenny Lane
Lane
Lash Laroux
Lizmark, Jr.
Lodi
Jushin' Thunder Liger
Loch Ness
Lance Storm
AJ Styles
Rick Steiner
Scott Steiner
Coach Buzz Stern
Sting

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RAW Diva Roster

Ashley
Beth Phoenix
Candice Michelle
Jillian Hall
Layla El
Kelly Kelly
Katie Lea
Mickie James

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SmackDown Diva Roster

Maryse
Michelle McCool
Victoria
Eve Torres
Brie Bella
Nikki Bella
Natalya
Melina
Debra McMichael
Madusa
Miss Jones
AC Jazz
Missy Hyatt
Ms. Hancock
Major Gunns
Baby
Asya
Tylene Buck

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WCW Diva Roster

Alexandra York
Woman
Whisper
Daffney Unger
Luna Vachon
Tygress
Tammy
Symphony
Syren
Storm
Spice
Rhonda Singh
Skye
Sherri
Paisley
Naughty-A
Bull Nakano
Mona
Leia Meow
Midajah
Midnight

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Downloadable Diva Roster

Trish Stratus
Lita
Molly Holly
Chyna
Sable
Alicia Fox
Tiffany
Ivory
Jazz
Jacqueline
Gail Kim
Miss Jackie
Dawn Marie
Stacy Keibler
Kristal
Bella Twins

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Downloadable Legends/Hall Of Famers

Andre the Giant
Arnold Skaaland
Bobo Bobo Brazil
Nature Boy Buddy Rogers
The Wild Samoans
"Nature Boy"Ric Flair
Mr. Perfect Curt Hennig
Mr. Fuji
"The American Dream"Dusty Rhodes
"Mr. USA"Tony Atlas
The Blackjacks
(Blackjack Mulligan and Blackjack Lanza)
Eddie Guerrero
Bret Hart
The Iron Sheik
Nikolai Volkoff
Cowboy Bob Orton
Rowdy Roddy Piper
Hulk Hogan
Sgt. Slaughter
Junkyard Dog
Pat Patterson
Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka
Stone Cold Steve Austin
The Rock

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Downloadable Characters


Gangrel(The Brood)
Christan(The Brood)
X-Pac(Old DX)
Kareem Olajuwon(USWA/Nation of Domination)
Akeem Mohammad(USWA/Nation of Domination)
Sir Mohammad(USWA/Nation of Domination)
Elijah(USWA/Nation of Domination)
Shaquille Ali(USWA/Nation of Domination)
Randy X(USWA/Nation of Domination)
PG-13(Jc Ice & Wolfie D(USWA/Nation of Domination)
Ron Simmons (with Farooq alt attire0(WWF/Nation of Domination)
Clarence Mason(WWF/Nation of Domination)
Crush(WWF/Nation of Domination)
Savio Vega(WWF/Nation of Domination)
Kama Mustafa(WWF/Nation of Domination)
The GodFather (The movesets would change as well as entrance too much to be alt attires)
Ahmed Johnson(WWF/Nation of Domination)
Rocky Maivia (Alt attire for The Rock)(WWF/Nation of Domination)
Owen Heart(WWF/Nation of Domination)
Bobby Lashley
Brock Lesnar
Orlando Jordan
Muhammad Hassan
Billy Kidman
Mark Jindrak
RVD
Steven Richards
Test
Raven
Justin Credible

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Default Championships

WWE Championship
ECW Championship
World-Heavyweight Championship
World-Tag Team Championship
WWE Tag-Team Championship
Women's Championship
Divas Championship
Cruiserweight Championship
Intercontinental Championship
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Unlockable Championships

Intercontinental Tag-Team Championship
International Tag-Team Championship
Women's Tag-Team Championship
Canadian Championship
NWA World Heavyweight Championship
NWA World Tag Team Championship
NWA United States Championship
NWA World Televison Championship
NWA United States Tag-Team Championship
NWA World Six-Man Tag Team Championship
WCW World Heavyweight Championship
WCW United States Championship
WCW Cruiserweight Championship
WCW World Tag Team Championship
WCW World Television Championship
WCW Light Heavyweight Championship
WCW Cruiserweight Tag Team Championshp
WCW Hardcore Championship
WCW United States Tag Team Championship
WCW World Six-Man Tag Team Championship

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Downloadable Championships

WCW International World Heavyweight Championship
WCW Women's Championship
WCW Women's Cruiserweight Championship
ECW Championship(all designs)
ECW Tag Team Championships
ECW World Tag Team Championships
ECW Extreme Divas Championship
ECW World Television Championship
ECW FTW Heavyweight Championship
ECW Maryland Championship
ECW Pennsylvania Championship
The Hardcore Championship
The Million Dollar Championship
The Divas championship
The WWF European Championship
The United States Championship(both spinner designs)
North American heavyweight Championship
World Martial Arts Heavyweight Championship
Junior Heavyweight Championship

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Accessories(Masks)

Armor King's Jaguar Mask
King's Jaguar Mask
Kunimitsu's Mask
Scorpion's Mask
Sub-Zero's Mask
Ermac's Mask
Noob Saibot's Mask
Spider-Man's Mask
Iron Man's Mask

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Extra/New Eye Designs

One Eye White While The Other Is Normal
Possessed Eyes
Evil Eyes
Cyborg Eye
Undead Eye
Itachi's Mangekyo Sharingan
Sauske's Mangekyo Sharingan
Kakashi's Mangekyo Sharingan
Obito's Mangekyo Sharingan(Normal & Eternal)

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Extra Hair Styles

Super Saiyan
Super Saiyan 2
Super Saiyan 3
Super Saiyan 4
Super Saiyan 5
Inuyasha's
Custom Hairstyle
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Living Dangerously
December To Dismember
New Years Revolution
Tribute To the Troops
Barely Legal
Starrcaide(WCW'S Wrestlemania)
Night of Champions
Outside The Arena
FCW Arena
Airport(Inside & outside)(something i just thought of(destroying someone while at the airport!)
The Docks(remember when john cena beat edge at the docks?)
Wild Samoan's Training Center
WCW:WW3(World War 3)
WCW:Souled Out
WCW:Sin
WCW:Chi-Town Rumble
WCW:WrestleWar
WCW:SuperBrawl
WCW:Uncensored
WCW:Greed
WCW:Capital Combat
WCW:Slamboree
WCW:Beach Blast(Fight At The Beach)
WCW:Hog Wild
WCW:Road Wild
WCW:New Blood Rising
WCW:Fall Brawl
WCW:Halloween Havoc
WCW:Battlebowl
WCW:Mayhem
WCW:Millennium Final
Wild Samoan Training Center


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special exhibition matches

inferno match
casket match
buried alive match
hell in a cell
lumberjack match
gauntlet match
tables
table,ladders,chairs
ladder
ecw extreme rules match
i quit match
ultimate submission match
ironman match
slobber knocker
royal rumble
battle royal
elimination chamber
steel cage match
money in the bank
backstage brawl
bra & panties
fulfill Your fantasy
special ref
first blood
backstage brawl(Parking Lot Brawl,Locker Room Brawl,Bar Brawl,Boiler Room Brawl)
fight inside the crowd
ww3(world war 3(WCW's version of the royal rumble(60 competitors)
unsanctioned match
no disqualification match

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entrances

original custom entrance
ring announcer actually announces character by their given name
champion entrance music
use of custom soundtracks
use of custom video
special online entrance
more mixed tag entrances
more tag team entrances
interactive entrances(like R-Truth's)

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Online Mode

use of custom soundtracks
challenge for all of the titles in the game(like an online stable)
special online entrance(for created characters,includes custom soundtracks)
champion entrance music

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Road To Wrestlemania

Play as created superstars & let them have a different storyline for each brand.
Play as divas,choose which superstar you wish to manage(created characters as well)
More Tag-Team RTWM(The Hardy's,Rey & Bastista,Paul London & His Partner,Jesse & Festus,The Miz & John Morrison,Carlito & Primo)
Have more title challenges in the storyline

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Story Mode

Have cutscenes like SvR06-08
Challenge for all titles(unlockable/downloadable titles as well)
Have divas as managers
Fight in all special exhibition matches

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General Manager Mode

Sign Created Superstars
cutscenes(call superstars to the office,telling what match they'll be in,meetings with other general managers,visits from Vince!)

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Interview Segments

Chris Jericho's High-Lite Reel
Carlito's Cabana
The Dirt Sheet
The Cutting Edge
Piper's Pit
Cryme Tyme's Word Up

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Groups that we can join(Superstar popularity goes increases/decreases based on the joined group) (current & past groups can be reformed or start with the norm people)

Cryme Tyme
D-Generation X
The Radicalz
The Nation of Domination (N.O.D.)
Rated-RKO
USWA
The Brood
The Union
The Corporate Ministry
Ministry of Darkness
Camp Cornette
Demolition
Disciples of Apocalypse
Million Dollar Corporation
National Wrestling Alliance
Mean Street Posse
Hell's Henchmen
Acolyte Protection Agency
The Triangle Of Terror
2 Cool
Lo-Down
Team Xtreme
X-Factor
Evolution
The Full Blooded Italians
The Un-Americans
La'Resistance
Tough Enough
Anti-Extremist Crusaders
Anti-ECW Crusaders
ECW New Breed
ECW Originals
The Machines
Los Boricuas

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http://www.tpww.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=7

[Anybody Thrilla]

Um....that's a nice list?

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Well, I'd merge this into the main topic, but since I'm not a mod in the VG forum, I can't... I can send it there though...

[FourFifty]

LOW:Showdown was the best one. I liked beign able to wrestle with Abdullah seeing he is no game at all.

LOW: Showdown sucked. Yea, the roster was alright, but the game was choppy, the story mode sucked, it had a failed bullet time effect, and it didn't even see the bar that LOW 2 set when it comes to extra features in a game like that.

[DAMN iNATOR]

You'd think they'd be able to up the Rumble participants to 8 by now, at least.


Agreed. There's been 8 men in a match in a SD! game in the PS2-gen era, but guess how far back you have to go: all the fucking way back to Just Bring It. :nono: I firmly believe they got lazy and took out 8-man matches as a way to piss off fans of the series, only to come back with a lame excuse: the technology of the PS2 is too limited. Pssh, as if! :roll:

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/940/940516/the-state-of-smackdown-20081222040734500-000.jpg (http://media.ds.ign.com/articles/940/940644/img_6302657.html)
Day of Reckoning 2's "new" submission system left many players feeling alienated.

Also to whoever said everything about DoR 2 was great, I'm sorry but I must disagree. As I've mentioned previously, the "new" submission system left much to be desired, and I did not care for the second straight WWE game on a Nintendo system with a hokey storyline like your superstar vs. Triple H @ WM 21 for the WHC -- but wait, the belt was "stolen", and then you go on a stupid-ass wild goose chase/whodunit, get framed, then banned from RAW, signed to a "lifetime" contract to SmackDown! by Theodore Long, and then, oh, guess who solves the mystery and becomes a hero to the WWE Universe by saving the day and revealing who "really" took the World Heavyweight Championship, which Triple H is, of course, all too glad to take it off your hands.

[Kalyx triaD]

I believe story lines in wrestling games are second... maybe even third priority. You make a good point, but it fails to put a dent in the legacy DoR2 left - with many of us citing that game's feature set (gameplay wise) to this day. It's like bringing up WWF No Mercy's lack of full entrances or HCTP's... well that game was damn near perfect, really. But you see what I'm saying.

[Zaiko Rose]

Um....that's a nice list?

thanks

[#BROKEN Hasney]

just bring it was using a modified PS1 engine which is why it could get 8 wrestlers on the screen. Once the graphics go up, the onscreen wrestlers go down. To be fair to Yukes, it's not being lazy, most of the extra processing power of the new consoles goes on HD textures.

[Kalyx triaD]

Not refuting you personally, but Gameplay > HD "Graphics".

[DAMN iNATOR]

Oh, don't know why I've forgotten to mention until now but another thing I'd like to see in '10 if it's ever made:

+ Take the C-A-W naming thing from SmackDown!: Shut Your Mouth (where you choose a name for Fink to introduce you by, i.e. Tommy Dreamer), and have it be chock full of names from WCW, ECW, hell even TNA and other organizations, as long as they are recognizable names, and put them in with all the generic nicknames like "The Monster", etc. so we don't just have to choose a gay sounding first name only (i.e., James, George, etc.). Also since you have can use a slider to determine height in C-A-W, I always wondered why haven't they made it where when you select, I dunno 287 lbs. for instance, why doesn't the character grow to that size accordingly with preset sizes for certain body areas and such, and allow the body area factors to be changed without having any bearing on what you told the "application" your superstar weighs?

[Xero]

Mackem, know your role and do your job.

[Kalyx triaD]

Wow... Um... I suppose that would be a... packed WWE game...

...How old are you?

[Xero]

It'd be like if Vince McMahon threw up the past.

[Zaiko Rose]

Wow... Um... I suppose that would be a... packed WWE game...

...How old are you?

thanks & i'm turning 16 on the 19th of april!

[Kalyx triaD]

I see. Good for you.

[Volchok]

lol

[RoXer]

WCW came back?

[G]

http://www.360sync.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/mass-effect-643.jpg

[Funky Fly]

threads merged, crisis averted

[Kalyx triaD]

...For now...

[Funky Fly]

I said crisis, not Crisis :roll:

[Kalyx triaD]

I'll be back...

[DAMN iNATOR]

SOOOOOOOOOOOOO...getting back to the *AHEM* POINT, is there any expected timeframe for an official THQ announcement, or have they not said anything at all yet?

[Xero]

Apparently 2010 is THQ's final WWE game under contract. This could be the make it or break it game for everyone involved, WWE, THQ and the players.

[Kalyx triaD]

Well... for THQ. WWE loses nothing and gains everything.

[Xero]

If WWE gives it to the wrong developer it could blow up in their face.

Imagine if they gave it to EA.

And now look back to WCW Backstage Assault.

Yeah.

[Kalyx triaD]

Well EA gets most improved award for the last two years so I don't know about citing a ten year old wrestling effort. EA's got some decent dev teams now.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

If WWE gives it to the wrong developer it could blow up in their face.

Imagine if they gave it to EA.

And now look back to WCW Backstage Assault.

Yeah.

Also look at the Def Jam games (Well, not Icon).

I'd much rather EA have it than THQ or Activision..

[BodySlam]

actually it's YUKES that creates the games, THQ publishes it

[#BROKEN Hasney]

actually it's YUKES that creates the games, THQ publishes it

But they don't own the license, THQ do and they decide who develops the games.

With THQ out the way, the liklihood of the successors giving it to Yukes again are slim (unless Activision get it and they'll ship it to them or Neversoft out of laziness)

[Kalyx triaD]

There's a good chance we knew that. We say THQ as a blanket term for all the teams unless we need to specify. We'll correctly cite AKI when speaking about certain titles for instance.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Also look at the Def Jam games (Well, not Icon).

I'd much rather EA have it than THQ or Activision..

...or Midway or Studio Gigante (remember the giant puddle they made called WrestleMania 21?)...

[James Steele]

EA getting the WWE license would be pretty damn interesting, and especially if they had the balls to put it with EA Sports.

[D Mac]

I seriously doubt they will.

[D Mac]

I can see the opening video:

John Cena: "This is John Cena, You can't see me! EA Sports, it's in the game."

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Rockstar I think would be the only unknown quantity with the money to pay WWE.

What if THQ don't renew (they're in financial trouble) and no-one wants to make WWE games?

[D Mac]

I'm sure WWE will find someone willing. As these still sell pretty well when they are released.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I'm sure WWE will find someone willing. As these still sell pretty well when they are released.

2009 didn't The only time it featured on sales charts was for November and it was the PS2 version at number 18. The 360/PS3 versions didn't chart.

[DAMN iNATOR]

No doubt word of mouth about the Career Mode and Road To WrestleMania that people spread must have had some role in that shocking news. Also C-A-W mode.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

2007 was number 5 best selling game of November 2006.

can only find top 10s of November 2007 but it isn't in it. They do have sales figures for the Wii version (shite sales figures).

It's just been on a massive donward trend since it became SD V Raw (sales and quality, 2009 was a step in the right direction, but only a step) as well as the WWE product getting lower in the ratings.

[The Destroyer]

It's incredibly unscientific, I know, but using MyGamerCard.net, you can sort of track the popularity of the games based on the people that have achievements for them. I dunno if this is purely the number of people who own the games and have an account on the site, or the more overall figure of people who own the games and connected to Live at some point, but there's a definite downward trend.

2007 has 243,877
2008 has 144,408
2009 has 80,957

[Xero]

2009 didn't The only time it featured on sales charts was for November and it was the PS2 version at number 18. The 360/PS3 versions didn't chart.

It sells well enough that some developer would come along and take it.

Rockstar would be interesting, to say the least. If not WWE (considering Rockstar's edgy reputation) they could do something really awesome with the ROH brand.

Wrestling seems like something Rockstar would pick up. It's a nich market that they could bring to the mainstream. But, then again, Rockstar doesn't have much experience with fighting games, do they?

[Funky Fly]

Well, look at it this way: You're a casual WWE fan and an average gamer. You played '07 and liked it. You pick up '08 thinking this new career mode will be the bomb diggity, and it is not. It's so bad you'd rather be kicked in the balls than play it anymore. So '09 comes out and you remember how terrible '08 was. Of course you're not gonna pick it up, regardless of reviews.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

You know what pisses me off? It may only be a small thing. But TLC matches just essentially being a hardcore match with ladders and tables thrown in. There is no option for a belt? Remember back in the earlier games where you could pick TLC title match or non title?

Now I know that if it included the ladder - belt mini game then it wouldnt be much different from the actual ladder match. But why not make TLC a bit different? Add different animations, like falling from the ladder through a table? Or the ability to take the chair to the top of the ladder to hit someone? Or doing what the Dudleys did, and laying a table across 2 ladders?

It just seems like it'd be simple to tweak, but instead its just a glorified weapons match with ladders and tables(which you can now use in Extreme Rules, rendering the TLC match pointless)

[St. Jimmy]

God 08 was bad. SO BAD.

[Cuzziebro]

Okay so I can't be bothered going through the last few pages of stuff but something that I thought about while watching an old Rock v Stone Cold match.

You know how during a match in WWE a ref 'accidentally' gets knocked down and then when he comes back to he counts slower because he's stressing that he is hurt. Well why not incorporate that into the game, it would make it more interesting.

During a match in the game a ref gets knocked down and then he lays on the mat like usual, but he sustains damage so that when he comes to he moves slower, counts slower. The wrestlers move slower when they begin to take some heavy damage so I'm sure the creators could incorporate the same system into the referees.

It would make the ending a bit more unsure once you hit a finisher, unlike in previous titles once you work the body or head to red and hit a finisher it is all over. A slower count could mean the opponent kicks out or maybe not, it would change from match to match. Thus making it more surprising.

Or am I just talking shit?

[Kalyx triaD]

That's a decent idea.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Honestly, I just hope the game gets made at this point.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

I honestly don't think anyone else would make it as good as THQ if the licence got dropped. It took THQ 10 years of building to get to this stage. Sure, a No Mercy style game on this gen would kick ass. And THQ could do it, they've just gotten lazy. But I'm pretty confident that if anyone else picked up the licence right after THQ (lets face it, it wouldn't be in limbo for long) it wouldn't be up to par with the SD/SvR series.

All thats happened is THQ and Yukes (like Vince with the actual product itself) have gotten lazy. And while the product they are producing is still pretty good IMO, it could be much much better. The just need to pull their finger out big time.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Honestly, I just hope the game gets made at this point.

I'm the opposite. Take a year off, find new ideas. I don't know why THQ fail everytime the put a WWE game on the XBox and now it brings the PS down as well.

[Funky Fly]

It would be to their benefit to take time off. Spend more time developing this shit. Make it every other year one of these drops, rather than annually. More time to improve the games, more time to build up demand for the game.

[Xero]

And it's not like they'd miss out on that off year. They could always release enough DLC for the equivalent of a new game. Mostly roster updates, a few arenas and maybe a new match type.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'd be OK with that if I still got some DLC, I suppose. I need Jack Swagger, damn it!

[Zaiko Rose]

hey guys this is my fisrt post here & i'm glad to say that i'm happy to be here! one of the reasons i'm here is to get good feedback on my suggestions for SvR2010 & mabye see some suggestions of other members! so please no negative comments/reviews,if you believe that you can help or have something to add orhave suggestions of your own then please post them here!(please note I'm only 16 & still in high school)(BTW I also made this suggestions list way before the 2009 WWE Draft so there are going to be some messed up rosters)



RAW Roster

John Cena
Chris Jerico
CM Punk
William Regal
Bastista
Charlie H
Goldust
Cody Rhodes
Dolph Ziggler
Hacksaw Jim Duggan
Jamie Noble
Kane(Masked Kane alt attire/entrance)
Randy Orton
Sim Snuka
JBL
JTG
Kofi Kingston
Manu
Rey Mysterio
Mike Knox
Shad
Ted DiBiase Jr
Shawn Michales
Mr.McMahon
Michale Cole(Annoucer Only)
Santino Marella
Jerry Lawler(Announcer Only)

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SmackDown Roster

Jeff Hardy
Shelton Benjamin
Carlito
Primo
R-Truth
Big Show
DH Smith (Downloadable SuperStar)[At the moment this is okay]
Curt Hawkins
Edge
Ezekiel Jackson
Festus
Hurricane Helms
Jesse
Jimmy Wang Yang
Jim Ross(Announcer Only)
Tazz (Announcer Only)
Justin Roberts(Announcer Only)
Kung Fu Naki
MVP
Mr.Kenndey
The Great Khali
Undertaker(Debute alt attire, Biker alt attire)
Triple H(DX alt attire)
Ryan Braddock(Downloadable SuperStar)
Scotty Goldman(Downloadable SuperStar)
Brian Kendrick
Vladimir Kozlov
Zack Ryder
Umaga

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ECW Roster

Jack Swagger
The Boogeyman
The Miz
John Morrison
Chavo Guerrero
DJ Gabriel
Evan Bourne
Finaly
Hornswoggle (Manager Only)(Tag-Team Partner With FINALY ONLY)
Matt Hardy
Paul Burchill
Ricky Ortiz
Tommy Dreamer
Mark Henry
Booker T
Kurt Angle

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WCW Roster

2 Cold Scorpio
Tank Abbot
Abdulah the Butcher
Johnny Ace
Brian Adams
Chris Adams
Arn Anderson
Ole Anderson
Animal
Brad Armstrong
Scott Armstrong
Steve Armstrong
David Arquette
Horace Hogan
Barry Horrowitz
Prince Iaukea
J C Ice
Chris Kanyon
Billy Kidman
Kid Romeo
King Kong
Evan Korageous
Lenny Lane
Lane
Lash Laroux
Lizmark, Jr.
Lodi
Jushin' Thunder Liger
Loch Ness
Lance Storm
AJ Styles
Rick Steiner
Scott Steiner
Coach Buzz Stern
Sting

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RAW Diva Roster

Ashley
Beth Phoenix
Candice Michelle
Jillian Hall
Layla El
Kelly Kelly
Katie Lea
Mickie James
Baby
Asya
Tylene Buck

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SmackDown Diva Roster

Maryse
Michelle McCool
Victoria
Eve Torres
Brie Bella
Nikki Bella
Natalya
Melina
Debra McMichael
Madusa
Miss Jones
AC Jazz
Missy Hyatt
Major Gunns


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WCW Diva Roster

Alexandra York
Woman
Whisper
Daffney Unger
Luna Vachon
Tygress
Tammy
Symphony
Syren
Storm
Spice
Rhonda Singh
Skye
Sherri
Paisley
Naughty-A
Bull Nakano
Mona
Leia Meow
Midajah
Midnight

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Downloadable Diva Roster

Trish Stratus
Lita
Molly Holly
Chyna
Sable
Alicia Fox
Tiffany
Ivory
Jazz
Jacqueline
Gail Kim
Miss Jackie
Dawn Marie
Stacy Keibler
Kristal
Torrie Wilson

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Downloadable Legends/Hall Of Famers

Andre the Giant
Arnold Skaaland
Bobo Bobo Brazil
Nature Boy Buddy Rogers
The Wild Samoans
"Nature Boy"Ric Flair
Mr. Perfect Curt Hennig
Mr. Fuji
"The American Dream"Dusty Rhodes
"Mr. USA"Tony Atlas
The Blackjacks
(Blackjack Mulligan and Blackjack Lanza)
Eddie Guerrero
Bret Hart
The Iron Sheik
Nikolai Volkoff
Cowboy Bob Orton
Rowdy Roddy Piper
Hulk Hogan
Sgt. Slaughter
Junkyard Dog
Pat Patterson
Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka
Stone Cold Steve Austin
The Rock

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Downloadable Characters


Gangrel(The Brood)
Christan(The Brood)
X-Pac(Old DX)
Kareem Olajuwon(USWA/Nation of Domination)
Akeem Mohammad(USWA/Nation of Domination)
Sir Mohammad(USWA/Nation of Domination)
Elijah(USWA/Nation of Domination)
Shaquille Ali(USWA/Nation of Domination)
Randy X(USWA/Nation of Domination)
PG-13(Jc Ice & Wolfie D(USWA/Nation of Domination)
Ron Simmons (with Farooq alt attire0(WWF/Nation of Domination)
Clarence Mason(WWF/Nation of Domination)
Crush(WWF/Nation of Domination)
Savio Vega(WWF/Nation of Domination)
Kama Mustafa(WWF/Nation of Domination)

The GodFather (The movesets would change as well as entrance too much to be alt attires)
Ahmed Johnson(WWF/Nation of Domination)
Rocky Maivia (Alt attire for The Rock)(WWF/Nation of Domination)
Owen Heart(WWF/Nation of Domination)
Bobby Lashley
Brock Lesnar
Orlando Jordan
Muhammad Hassan
Billy Kidman
Mark Jindrak
RVD
Steven Richards
Test
Raven
Justin Credible

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Default Championships

WWE Championship
World Heavyweight Championship
World Tag-Team Championships
Cruiserweight Championship
Tag-Team Championships
Hardcore Championship
ECW Championship
United States Championship
Women's Championship
Divas Championship
Intercontinental Championship

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Unlockable Championships

Intercontinental Tag-Team Championship
International Tag-Team Championship
Women's Tag-Team Championship
Canadian Championship
NWA World Heavyweight Championship
NWA World Tag Team Championship
NWA United States Championship
NWA World Television Championship
NWA United States Tag-Team Championship
NWA World Six-Man Tag Team Championship
NWA Hardcore Championship
NWA Lightweight Tag-Team Championship
WCW World Heavyweight Championship
WCW United States Championship
WCW Cruiserweight Championship
WCW World Tag Team Championship
WCW World Television Championship
WCW Light Heavyweight Championship
WCW Cruiserweight Tag Team Championshp
WCW Hardcore Championship
WCW United States Tag Team Championship
WCW World Six-Man Tag Team Championship

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Downloadable Championships

WCW International World Heavyweight Championship
WCW Women's Championship
WCW Women's Cruiserweight Championship
ECW Championship(all designs)
ECW Tag Team Championships
ECW World Tag Team Championships
ECW Extreme Divas Championship
ECW World Television Championship
ECW FTW Heavyweight Championship
ECW Maryland Championship
ECW Pennsylvania Championship
The Hardcore Championship
The Million Dollar Championship
The Divas championship
The WWF European Championship
The United States Championship(both spinner designs)
North American Heavyweight Championship
NWA National Heavyweight Championship
NWA World Women's Championship
WCW World Women's Championship

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Accessories(Masks)

Armor King's Jaguar Mask(The way how Armor King wears his)
King's Jaguar Mask(The way how King wears his)
Kunimitsu's Mask
Scorpion's Mask
Sub-Zero's Mask
Ermac's Mask
Noob Saibot's Mask
Spider-Man's Mask
Iron Man's Mask

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Extra/New Eye Designs

One Eye White While The Other Is Normal
Possessed Eyes
Evil Eyes
Cyborg Eye
Undead Eye
Itachi's Mangekyo Sharingan
Sauske's Mangekyo Sharingan
Kakashi's Mangekyo Sharingan
Obito's Mangekyo Sharingan(Normal & Eternal)

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Extra Hair Styles

Super Saiyan
Super Saiyan 2
Super Saiyan 3
Super Saiyan 4
Super Saiyan 5
Inuyasha's
Sasuke Uchiha
Madara Uchiha
Itachi Uchiha

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Arenas(WWE)


New Years Revolution
Tribute To the Troops
Night of Champions
Royal Rumble
No Way Out
WrestleMania
Armageddon
Backlash
Judgment Day
Extreme Rules(Takes The Place Of One Night Stand)
The Great American Bash
SummerSlam
Unforgiven
No Mercy
Cyber Sunday
Survivor Series



Arenas(WCW)

WW3(World War 3)
Souled Out
Sin
Chi-Town Rumble
WrestleWar
SuperBrawl
Uncensored
Greed
Capital Combat
Slamboree
Beach Blast(Fight At The Beach)
Hog Wild
Road Wild
New Blood Rising
Fall Brawl
Halloween Havoc
Battlebowl
Mayhem
Millennium Final
Starrcaide(WCW'S Wrestlemania)



Arenas(ECW)

Barely Legal
Wrestlepalooza
Hardcore Heaven
Anarchy Rulz
Heat Wave
Guilty as Charged
Living Dangerously
November to Remember
Massacre on 34th Street
December To Dismember
Born to be Wired
CyberSlam
House Party
Big *** Extreme Bash
The Doctor Is In
Hostile City Showdown
Holiday Hell
Ultimate Jeopardy

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Special Exhibition Matches

Ambulance Match
Arm wrestling
Backstage Brawl(Locker Room,Bar,Backstage,Hotel,Parking Lot)
Battle Royal
Blindfold Match
Boiler Room Brawl
Boxing match
Bra & Panties Match
Buried Alive Match
Casket Match
Elimination Chamber
Empty Arena
Evening Gown Match
Extreme Rules Match
Falls Count Anywhere Match
Flag match
Fatal Four Way Match
Fans Bring the Weapons
First Blood Match
Final Wars Brawl
Football Classic
Fulfill Your Fantasy
Gauntlet
Handicap Match
Hangman's Horror
Hardcore Match
Hard Ten
Hell in a Cell
I Quit Match
Inferno Match
Item on a Pole Match
Ladder
Last Man Standing
Last Chance
Light tube Deathmatch
Loser Leaves Town
Lumberjack Match
Money In The Bank
No Count-Out
No Disqualification
No Rope Barbed Wire Deathmatch
Pillow fight
Punjabi Prison
Relay match
Royal Rumble
Special Referee
Special Outside Referee
Steel Cage Match
Strap Match
Stretcher Match
Tables Ladders & Chairs
Tables Match
Taipei Deathmatch
Texas Death match
Triple Threat Match
Two out of Three Falls
Unsanctioned
World War 3:WCW'S Royal Rumble(60 Competitors)

_________________________________________________ ___________


entrances

original custom entrance
ring announcer actually announces character by their given name
champion entrance music
use of custom soundtracks
use of custom video
special online entrance
more mixed tag entrances
more tag team entrances
interactive entrances(like R-Truth's)

__________________________________________________ ___________


Online Mode

Use Of Custom Soundtracks
Challenge for all of the titles in the game(like an online stable)
Special online entrance(for created characters,includes custom soundtracks)
Champion entrance music
Online stables
Online King Of The Ring
Online Royal Rumble(WWE's & WCW's)

__________________________________________________ ___________


Road To Wrestlemania

Play as created superstars & let them have a different storyline for each brand.
Play as divas,choose which superstar you wish to manage(created characters as well)
More Tag-Team RTWM(The Hardy's,Rey & Bastista,Paul London & His Partner,Jesse & Festus,The Miz & John Morrison,Carlito & Primo)
Have more title challenges in the storyline
Both Royal Rumbles
King Of The Ring
WWE Draft

__________________________________________________ ___________


Story Mode

Have cutscenes like SvR06-08
Challenge for all titles(unlockable/downloadable titles as well)
Have divas as managers
Fight in all special exhibition matches
Both Royal Rumbles
WWE Draft
King Of The Ring

__________________________________________________ _____________


General Manager Mode

Sign Created Superstars
WWE Draft
Meet with general managers of other brands

__________________________________________________ ______________


Interview Segments

Chris Jericho's High-Lite Reel
Carlito's Cabana
The Dirt Sheet
The Cutting Edge
Piper's Pit
Cryme Tyme's Word Up

__________________________________________________ _______________

Groups that we can join(Superstar popularity goes increases/decreases based on the joined group) (current & past groups can be reformed or start with the norm people)

Cryme Tyme
D-Generation X
The Radicalz
The Nation of Domination (N.O.D.)
USWA
The Brood
The Union
Ministry of Darkness
Disciples of Apocalypse
National Wrestling Alliance
Mean Street Posse
Acolyte Protection Agency
2 Cool
Lo-Down
Team Xtreme
X-Factor
Evolution
The Full Blooded Italians
The Un-Americans
La'Resistance
ECW New Breed
ECW Originals

[Triple Naitch]

Is it just me or am I having deja vu?

[The Destroyer]

You're not. This is possibly the third or fourth time this has been posted.

Don't think anyone was interested even the first time.

[taker707]

i actually like alot of your ideas . but they will never happen . wwe for one will not put all those people in one game . would be awesome if some of your stuff happened especially bringing back gm mode

[Triple Naitch]

Ooooh! ooooh! My turn.



shut up taker707

[Funky Fly]

Merger time. I'll leave a redirect since the kid is new and all that.

Kid, there is a topic covering this on the first page. Please check before posting a new one, blah blah blah.

[Lux]

If you don't want negative feedback please leave tpww now.

Otherwise you should note that this is the lions den of the internet.

good day.

[The Mackem]

Don't think they would be allowed to have the NWA titles.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Zaiko Rose's post fills me with hearty laughter. lol @ the randomness of the WCW roster...and the thought of having a 60-man World War 3 battle royal in the game</font>

[thecc]

<font color=goldenrod>Zaiko Rose's post fills me with hearty laughter. lol @ the randomness of the WCW roster...and the thought of having a 60-man World War 3 battle royal in the game</font>It is my dream to live in a world where I can play as JC Ice. :shifty:

[DAMN iNATOR]

Ooooh! ooooh! My turn.



shut up taker707

What he said. (^)

[Xero]

What he said about him saying something to him.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

THQ posted a 421 million dollar net loss with WWE games falling 25% in sales being blamed as a key factor. They've said they're looking at casual games to increase revenue.

I reckon they'll either drop the license or take a year off and put out a product with some actual effort in.

[Kalyx triaD]

It's not the SvR series going stale, it's us for not buying it!

[Vietnamese Crippler]

THQ posted a 421 million dollar net loss with WWE games falling 25% in sales being blamed as a key factor. They've said they're looking at casual games to increase revenue.

I reckon they'll either drop the license or take a year off and put out a product with some actual effort in.

Or perhaps they'll make an online MMO?

May 6, 2009 - In its quarterly earnings call with investors on Wednesday, THQ (http://games.ign.com/objects/025/025159.html) execs let slip that the company is working on a new title called WWE Online (http://pc.ign.com/objects/143/14347666.html).

The game is being developed in Asia, but beyond that we know absolutely nothing. Will it be a cross-platform MMO? A free-to-play PC game? A web-based browser game? An immersive holographic virtual reality 3D experience? We said we don't know, so stop with all the questions already.

THQ's wrestling games are some of its core moneymakers, so it's no surprise that the publisher is working on ways to expand its market. Although the WWE games remain popular, net sales for the series were down 25 percent last quarter over the same period last year.

- http://pc.ign.com/articles/980/980258p1.html

[Xero]

WTS Cena Hat - +20000 Defense Rating - $5000

[#BROKEN Hasney]

That's bee known for a while, weird how they're treating it new. It's for developing Asia countries only like most of these games (I think EA has got a ham for every franchise they do out there this way)

[Anybody Thrilla]

So apparently they ARE making this game....according to some news article on the main page that I don't feel like citing. It's there, though.

[Evil Vito]

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/sdvsraw2010announced

<font color=goldenrod>It's now official.</font>

[#BROKEN Hasney]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Kalyx triaD]

It's 2010, baby. C'mon guys, revamp the shit. This is your last chance.

[D Mac]

In addition, five World Wrestling Entertainment® Superstars will be featured on the cover of WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2010. John Cena®, Undertaker®, Randy Orton®, Edge® and Rey Mysterio® will headline the new game, which promises to deliver player freedom never before experienced in the SmackDown vs. Raw franchise.

I wonder if that means anything.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Sandbox game, explore the WWE universe!!!!!!

[Kalyx triaD]

Full stadium exploration and interaction?

(Yeah right)

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f4/WWE_SmackDown_vs._Raw_2010_pre-release_box_art.jpg
^ Box art.

[Xero]

Why does Taker have a perm?

[DAMN iNATOR]

Why does Taker have a perm?

Maybe he likes having luxurious hairstyles...


:shifty:

[D Mac]

Orton should be up front.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Anybody have any roster predictions yet?

I'll name a few who I think may make this year's cut...

SD!
Taker
Kane
R-Truth
Dolph Ziggler
John Morrison
Edge
Gail Kim
Melina
Eve Torres
Layla
Alicia Fox
Mike Knox
Rey Mysterio
Chris Jericho
Shelton Benjamin
Jeff Hardy
Shad
JTG
Khali
Umaga

RAW
The Miz
Big Show
John Cena
Randy Orton
Santino Marella
Kofi Kingston
Carlito
Primo
Batista
Cody Rhodes
Ted DiBiase
William Regal
Shawn Michaels
Triple H
The Brian Kendrick
Maryse
Mickie James
Beth Phoenix
Kelly Kelly
Brie and Nikki Bella

ECW
Christian
Evan Bourne
Vladimir Kozlov
Mark Henry
Tommy Dreamer
Natalya
Jack Swagger
Gregory Helms

Just some thoughts...

[Kalyx triaD]

Still don't see what these 'roster predictions' entail.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

Feeling of self-worth for being able to predict something so trivial?

[Kalyx triaD]

I like to think it's a way to express excitement, sort of like a wishlist. Except they rarely call it a wishlist.

It's really something that perplexes me.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Still don't see what these 'roster predictions' entail.

Speculations about who I possibly think could make the final roster in SvR '10.:rant:DUH!:roll:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'm sticking by my initial roster prediction from the first page.

http://www.tpww.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2488052&postcount=3

The cutoff always seems to be WM time, and looking at that roster now it certainly is somewhat outdated...but I still can see it.</font>

[Kalyx triaD]

Speculations about who I possibly think could make the final roster in SvR '10.:rant:DUH!:roll:

When SF4 was coming out we didn't make elaborate roster predictions we had wishlists.

[DAMN iNATOR]

When SF4 was coming out we didn't make elaborate roster predictions we had wishlists.

Well, that's fine and dandy for you, C.R.Y.S.I.S. baby, but I was speculating from a logic standpoint not a fanboy standpoint. Learn the fucking difference.:nono::mad:

[Kalyx triaD]

I made no reference to fanboyism. I win.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I made no reference to fanboyism. I win.

I will battle you in a duel. EN GARDE, motherfucker!:mad:

[Kalyx triaD]

I only dance under the moonlight. We will draw swords in a week. I will treat you to dinner every night until then. We shall lavish in the luxuries of my compound until the night we cross swords. My manservant will show you to your quarters. (said with french accent)

[DAMN iNATOR]

Fine. Midnight one week from Sun. My only stip is 10 paces with our backs turned and then we draw, and may the best man win. *extends hand in sportsmanship...for NOW...*

[Kalyx triaD]

I will send you the finest concubine in all of Europe as a sign of this blood pact.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I thank you for your kindness and hospitality, good sir.:D

[Kalyx triaD]

(This exchange was wtf)

[DAMN iNATOR]

Wow...Looks like THQ is dropping this shit to the streets fast...IGN.com is saying that it will release stateside Sept. 30th. But I'm still skeptical. Especially since most regions get it within a week or so of one another every year with WWE games, and I'm supposed to believe it's gonna take till Dec. 31st to get it out to the rest of the world? HMM...:nono:

[Anybody Thrilla]

As long as this game has Jack Swagger and Tyson Kidd, I'll be good to go.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Well, a couple things I'd like to see would be:

Have a few more wrestlers in RtWM mode (Road to WrestleMania)
Deeper Create-A-Finisher mode
An actual improvement to Create-A-Wrestler mode
Deeper Career mode somehow - I dunno, for starters, instead of the stupid main screen, bring back the "Locker Room". It should at least have the added capability of customization. Maybe award cash for each win, redeemable for X amount of whichever stat(s) you want to improve on your way to an Overall 99...


Just some thoughts...

[Anybody Thrilla]

I wish you could form friendships or rivalries with people in career mode as well. I hated that you had to choose from a list of people you already wrestled to go after tag titles.

[LuigiD]

I hated Road To Wrestlemania.
Compared to some previous Smackdown games, I don't think it had much replay value at all. I think they should bring back something similar to the Here Comes The Pain season mode.
What the hell happened to GM mode anyways? that was probably my favorite mode. I felt it was the freshest content added to a WWE game in a long time and it also showed a lot of promise.

[The Mackem]

I'm with you there LuigiD, I haven't had 09 too long but I've only got Undertaker's and the Batista/Rey one left to do and after that I've no idea what I'm going to do. The GM was great, I only played '06 with the mode but liked it.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I'm with you there LuigiD, I haven't had 09 too long but I've only got Undertaker's and the Batista/Rey one left to do and after that I've no idea what I'm going to do. The GM was great, I only played '06 with the mode but liked it.

Well if you had to pick from any of the modern era games (i.e., after it became SvR in '04) '06 & '09 are by far the way to go. Lets hope '010, as IGN insists on abbreviating the year improves on '09 in every way conceivable.

[DAMN iNATOR]

<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/DLX6clN4kSI&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/DLX6clN4kSI&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object></EMBED>
Kofi talks briefly about what to expect in SvR '010.
</EMBED>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>There's a second interview as well in which Kofi says pretty much the same things...keeps talking about "customizing characters" when they are "already pretty realistic as it is."

I'd mark out if we finally got to change pre-existing wrestlers' attires...but I'll believe it when I see it. That feature would add a shitload of replayability for me though. If I got bored with the game I could just make people look ridiculous.</font>

[D Mac]

They should have a road to wrestlemania for every wrestler in the game.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Jimmy Wang Yang's Road to Wrestlemania. Please write that storyline for me.

[PorkSoda]

I skipped 2009 so I have no idea what was new besides Create a Finisher and the roster. I seen it play and it looked kind of the same as before.

This year, I think they should input that, the create a taunt, walking style, and everything else they had in Shut Your Mouth.

One thing I liked from Legends of Wrestlemania, was the fact that when you did a finisher, it had two set up moves before hand. So when you did a Perfect Plex, you do an elbow, dropkick, then the Plex. And you could try and reverse the dropkick and stuff. Include that, I think thats a huge plus.

And please make the freaking difficulties harder. Thats pissed me off for so long. I got every single game on Legend or Expert and the CPU is still easy as fuck. Up the difficulty, make it very hard, damnit!

[DAMN iNATOR]

They should have a road to wrestlemania for every wrestler in the game.

Hmm..dunno about all that, but I would like to see the number of playable characters in that mode at least doubled...

[Evil Vito]

Jimmy Wang Yang's Road to Wrestlemania. Please write that storyline for me.

<font color=goldenrod>"I ain't no foreigner, I ain't a stereotype, I'm a redneck. Will I get to appear on SmackDown this week on MY...Road to WrestleMania. YEEEEEE-HAW."</font>

[What Would Kevin Do?]

It won't happen, but I want KOC style reversals.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Also, I want some sort of a FPR/KOC critical system.... Mainly because I'd like some sort of unexpected endings to matches. Like every once in awhile, Mysterio should be able to get a quick win with a rollup within the first couple minutes of a match.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I wonder...if they stick with the Sept. 30 release date, if IGN.com is planning on having their regular annual "SmackDown Countdown"...

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>There is no way they are actually releasing this on September 30th. If they were, the countdown would need to start pretty damn soon, as I'm pretty sure the countdown last year didn't begin UNTIL September.

Speaking of the roster, I just realized it's now down to just 4 guys who have been selectable in all ten of the SD games so far (and all 4 are locks for this year's game as well): Triple H, Undertaker, Kane, and Edge. And Vince has been in each game also, though not always playable.</font>

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://xbox360.ign.com/objects/143/14347664.html
I know, I know at the very top, under Release Date: , it reads Q3 2009, but if you look a couple sections down, where the heading is "About This Game", it lists a generic description, the Genre, the platforms besides XBox 360 the game will release on, and in that particular section under Release Date:, it reads September 30, 2009. That doesn't mean I'm convinced of the release date on IGN being accurate, as THQ will confirm or debunk the listed date pretty soon probably, but the SmackDown! Countdown could be done if this release date is accurate, if they started June 30th or July 1, since that would be roughly 3 months out, which is 90 days, and they usually have about 60-70 wrestlers total (approximate estimate). But I am a little skeptical.

[Funky Fly]

Fuck, where is the god damn 360 patch for '09? If it doesn't come out, fuck Smackdown '10

[DAMN iNATOR]

Fuck, where is the god damn 360 patch for '09? If it doesn't come out, fuck Smackdown '10

See, that's why I prefer to stick to the PS2 version every year. Yes there is a huge fucking tradeoff in the graphics department but that doesn't really worry me so much. With the 360 and PS3, however, you are much more likely to have bugs in games just because the hardware is that much more complicated, allowing this possibility.

But, still, even so, I don't see why THQ not following through on releasing a patch for '09 should have any bearing on whether or not you decide to pick up a copy of WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2010 (not questioning your rationale, FF, just saying since THQ generally has a pretty good track record with the franchise, it seems sort of silly to just sit there and say "Oh, so no patch, huh? Welp, guess I'm not buyin' the sequel!")

[Xero]

If not getting the patch meant the game was broken (not that it is), yeah, I'd skip out on the sequel.

[Kalyx triaD]

The game wasn't 'broken' so much as designed badly. I'd still prefer the current gen versions to PS2.

[Funky Fly]

See, that's why I prefer to stick to the PS2 version every year. Yes there is a huge fucking tradeoff in the graphics department but that doesn't really worry me so much. With the 360 and PS3, however, you are much more likely to have bugs in games just because the hardware is that much more complicated, allowing this possibility.

But, still, even so, I don't see why THQ not following through on releasing a patch for '09 should have any bearing on whether or not you decide to pick up a copy of WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2010 (not questioning your rationale, FF, just saying since THQ generally has a pretty good track record with the franchise, it seems sort of silly to just sit there and say "Oh, so no patch, huh? Welp, guess I'm not buyin' the sequel!")
Not broken at all.
The game wasn't 'broken' so much as designed badly. I'd still prefer the current gen versions to PS2.

This. It's not a bad game, and it's by far the best SvR in ages. But the career mode has a significant flaw: it takes FOREVER to make your guy have good stats. Add to that that you have to do it for each and every CAW and it makes creating CAWs (which I love to do) a chore.

They promised a patch that would fix the attributes bug (you can't choose what attributes you keep once you have 6, making getting some of the later ones impossible to get). This patch is also supposed to include a cheat to make non-career CAWs have a 90 rating. The patch has been out on the PS3 for ages, but not on 360.

The DLC was out at Christmas for PS3 and came out in late march for 360. Not liking this lack of attention for 360 owners. This isn't a massive bug fix they are doing, it's 2 minor things (a small bug fix and adding a cheat). Relatively easy things to do from a programming standpoint, especially since it's code that shuld have no difference between platforms.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

See, that's why I prefer to stick to the PS2 version every year. Yes there is a huge fucking tradeoff in the graphics department but that doesn't really worry me so much. With the 360 and PS3, however, you are much more likely to have bugs in games just because the hardware is that much more complicated, allowing this possibility.

But, still, even so, I don't see why THQ not following through on releasing a patch for '09 should have any bearing on whether or not you decide to pick up a copy of WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2010 (not questioning your rationale, FF, just saying since THQ generally has a pretty good track record with the franchise, it seems sort of silly to just sit there and say "Oh, so no patch, huh? Welp, guess I'm not buyin' the sequel!")

Lol

And THQ has had an awful track record for at least 5 years

[DAMN iNATOR]

This. It's not a bad game, and it's by far the best SvR in ages. But the career mode has a significant flaw: it takes FOREVER to make your guy have good stats. Add to that that you have to do it for each and every CAW and it makes creating CAWs (which I love to do) a chore.

That it does. That's why I'd like to see them go back to the days of the SvR (original, back in 2004) stat system from Season Mode, where you could buy X amount of experience to apply to your wrestler for $X of cash. That would be a great solution, IMHO.

[DAMN iNATOR]

For anyone who may want it...No questions will be asked, I promise.:cool: UPDATED.

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/6313/santinamarella.jpg
Face Template:

Name: Santina Marella
Nickname: Miss WrestleMania
Nickname Placement: Prefix
HUD Name: Santina
Announcer Introduction: The Queen
Hometown: Italy
Weight Class: Light Heavyweight (227 Lbs.)
Crowd Reaction: Good
Show: RAW

*Head:*
Hair: 23/71 Color: X: -25, Y: -100 Shade: -11 Hair Scale: 6
*Head Morphing:*
Head: edit as you like
Forehead: edit as you like

*Face*
Eyes-
Eye Type: 1/9
Eyelashes: 1/15
Eyebrows: 34/39 Color: X: -100, Y: -100
Mouth-
Lips: 3/17 (keep the current color)
Teeth: leave as normal
Skin-
Skin Tone: 1/12

*Face Morphing*
Eyebrows: edit as you like
Eyes: edit as you like
Nose: edit as you like
Cheeks: edit as you like
Mouth: edit as you like
Jaw: edit as you like
Ears: edit as you like

Height: 6’2”
*Body Type*
Body Type: edit as you like
Body Morphing-
Neck: H: -33, W: 0, D: -12
Chest: edit as you like
Shoulders: W: -40, D: -50
Abdomen: edit as you like
Waist: edit as you like
Arms: edit as you like
Hands: edit as you like
Legs: L: 20, W: 0 D: -10
Feet: edit as you like

Definition: leave as current

*Layers*
Clothing
Headwear-->Other: 11/36 Color: X: 100, Y: -100 Shade: 15
Upper Body-->Tops: 21/30*
*Add logos in order ((put diagonally down the right side of the top)): Logos-->Lettering-->Alphabet: 7/17, capital “M”
Logos-->Lettering-->Alphabet: 7/17, lower-case “i”
Logos-->Lettering-->Alphabet: 8/17, lower case “s” x2 All Color: X:-100 Y:-100 Shade: 100 α (Alpha): 100
Logos-->WWE-->Design: 99/102 scale vertical ^ (up) 1 time, horizontal ^ (up) 1 time (put at bottom-center of top)
Upper Body-->Armwear-->Arms/Wrists-->Both Arms: 5/21 Color: X: 100 Y: -100 Shade: -100 Length: 70
Upper Body-->Armwear-->Accessories-->Both Arms: 14/15 (leave as current color)
Upper Body-->Accessories: 25/27 Color: Purple in palette list
Lower Body-->Bottoms: 35/43 color: pink in pallete OR custom: X:-96 Y:-31 Shade:78
Lower Body-->Footwear-->Socks: 12/21 stylize: choose the one that gives you smaller fishnet holes/less exposed skin
Lower Body-->Shoes: 22/37 Color: X:-13 Y:-100 Shade:-55


Crowd Signs
1.) 19/21: 3rd row, 2nd to right (with red heart and “Diva [unreadeable]”)
2.) 18/21: 2nd row, far right: “Dirty Diva” sign (pink background)
3.) 18/21: 3rd row, 2nd from left: “Bring out the divas” sign (white background)
4.) 09/21: 2nd row, 2nd from left: “Take It Off!” sign (purple background)

Move-Set
Tag Team-->Corner Tag Team: \/(R): Poetry In Motion <(R): Double Elbow Drop 2 ^(R): Slingshot Sunset Flip (R)>: Body Attack

Tag Team-->Tag Team Finisher (w/Santino in a stable with only these 2): Death Drop 1

Special-->Signatures-->All: Illegal Pin Special-->Signatures-->All: School Boy Roll Up

Special-->Finishers-->All: Chick Kick (^) Special-->Finishers-->All: DDT 18 (+ & ^) You can alternatively use the Long Kiss Goodnight for the secondary finisher

Standard Actions-->Taunts: ALL Taunt Diva 1
Standard Actions-->Ring-In: Woman Ring In
Standard Actions-->Ring-Out: Woman Ring Out

Entrance
Advanced Creation

Intro-->Motion: Diva 04 Lighting: Diva 04
Stage-->Motion: Diva 04 Lighting: Diva 04
Ramp-->Motion: Diva 04 Lighting: Diva 04 (add nametag between 33% and 50% of the ramp animation completion)
Ring-In-->Motion: Diva 04 Lighting: Diva 04
Ring-->Motion: Diva 04 Lighting: Diva 04

Champion Entrance: Diva 04
Movie: Santino Marella
Music: Santino Marella

A few tips: The legs should be longer, shoulders less wide, and the neck shorter.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Jakks signed a new game contract on behalf of THQ and THQ are now suing them.

I would not expect a SD Vs Raw 2011 unless it's sorted quickly

[DAMN iNATOR]

Eh, I'm sure THQ and Jakks Pacific will probably settle very quickly, very quietly...I mean, neither side is going to dig in it's heels for a court case that will end up eating into profits in this kind of a world economy.

[Kalyx triaD]

Jakks signed a new game contract on behalf of THQ and THQ are now suing them.

Swear to Zeus I fucking hate publishers now.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I'm guessing it'll blow over pretty quickly...

[Kalyx triaD]

Maybe, but the action is still stupid. Perhaps there's more to the story.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

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<table width="100%" bgcolor="#cc0000" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr> <td align="left" height="18"> Industry Bullshit (http://www.destructoid.com/elephant/index-channel.phtml?t=Industry%20Bullshit&start=3) </td> </tr></tbody></table> <!-- GALLERY BLOCK --> <!-- If we're on the post page, show the whole post; if we aren't, show until the more tag --> Things just got real (again) between THQ and Jakks Pacific. The publisher of Red Faction: Guerrilla (http://www.destructoid.com/review-red-faction-guerrilla-136364.phtml) and Legends of Wrestlemania (http://www.destructoid.com/leg-drop-legends-of-wrestlemania-coming-to-xbox-360-ps3-on-march-5-123547.phtml) recently sued the toymaker over a decision to extend their joint deal with the WWE for an additional five years. Apparently, Jakks Pacific inked the binding contract with the WWE without THQ’s permission. That’s a no-no, we believe.
THQ’s argument is that Jakks shouldn’t have the ability to make a decision for both parties. THQ also doesn't like a term in the new contract that keeps the publisher from publishing a WWE game a year after the contract is toast. Jakks Pacific is all like, “Nu-uh. I do what I want; unilateral decisions not excluded." Ultimately a judge -- not a Hell in a Cell match as we didn't previously report -- will decide this thing.
[via Gamasutra (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=24282)]

[Kalyx triaD]

Childish.

[Juan]

I really hopes this means the end of THQ/Jakks WWE games.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I really hopes this means the end of THQ/Jakks WWE games.

Oh god I can only hope

[The Mackem]

What an odd piece of news.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I really hopes this means the end of THQ/Jakks WWE games.

Pretty sure they can't stop making 2010 yet though, as it's not part of the new, apparently THQ-unapproved/Jakks Pacific-approved contract deal. Odd that nothing has been said about Yuke's Media Creators, CRIware or GameSpy Technologies...they all help on these games, too...

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>It's that time of the year again...some roster confirmations trickling in. Already knew about John Cena, Undertaker, Rey Mysterio, Edge, and Randy Orton.

Now tack on The Miz, John Morrison, Kofi Kingston, Shad, JTG, Christian, R-Truth, and Dolph Ziggler. Apparently they were selectable in a trial of the game at a conference or something.

Really, Ziggler is the only surprising inclusion...since he was basically a jobber around WM time when the game was likely finalized. Glad to see he made the cut though. Him and R-Truth are now making their SD series debuts.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Oh yeah, here's an interview with Morrison. He mentions R-Truth and Dolph as being in. He also raves about the customization, which I can't wait to hear more about.</font>

http://www.videogamer.com/videos/wwe_smackdown_vs_raw_2010_wwe_s_john_morrison_interview.html#

[Anybody Thrilla]

All that customization would sorta throw a wrench in the works for their alternate costume DLC, wouldn't it? Not that I would mind. It would just give us more characters in DLC most likely.

[Lux]

well I'm sold...

can't help but pick it up each year

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Oh yeah, THQ signed the deal in the end after a court ruled that JAKKS only get half of what they used to get. It's worth about $23 million dollars to THQ that ruling.

THQ triumphant in WWE / JAKKS Pacific dispute (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07/28/thq-triumphant-in-wwe-jakks-pacific-dispute/)

by David Hinkle (http://www.joystiq.com/bloggers/david-hinkle/) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/writer_rss.gif (http://www.joystiq.com/bloggers/david-hinkle/rss.xml) { Jul 28th 2009 at 12:00PM }
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You may not know this, but THQ (http://www.joystiq.com/tag/thq) and JAKKS Pacific have been locked in a vicious courtroom tussle over payment for work on some of THQ's WWE titles. See, THQ and JAKKS had a deal wherein THQ was to pay JAKKS 10% of money accrued from the sale of the JAKKS-developed WWE games; however, the two ALL CAPS companies were set to renegotiate that deal when JAKKS jumped the gun (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07/01/jakks-wants-to-keep-wwe-thq-not-quite-sure/), signing a new contract without THQ's consent. And, as you've probably guessed, that's when THQ sicked the lawyers on 'em. Today, the result of this ongoing cage match are in and THQ managed to pin JAKKS for the 1-2-3.

In the end, THQ was able to get that 10% figure lowered to only 6%, which will save the company "approximately" $23 million. JAKKS is surely upset: before the suit, the company was set to receive $57 million for its efforts in developing WWE titles; now that figure is a much lower $34 million. And what have we learned here? In the fantastical world of WWE, signing important documents without the consent of your business partner might make for great television but ... wait, we need to rethink this lesson ...

Source (http://investor.thq.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=96376&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1311959&highlight=) - THQ Prevails in JAKKS Pacific Arbitration Dispute
Source (http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20090727005393&newsLang=en) - JAKKS Pacific Announces Result in THQ Arbitration

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Customization would add replayability for me even if the gameplay itself fails to keep me consistently entertained, as has been the case. If I'm bored I'd have fun just making the wrestlers look ridiculous.</font>

[The Jayman]

I would love to just see a Survivor Series match. the actual 5 on 5 tag match. With the power of the 360 and ps3 I know it can be done.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Just because it can be done, doesn't mean they'll be smart enough to do it.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Hell, 5 on 5...I'd be content with just 4 on 4.

One of the biggest concerns they've had is the HUDs taking up too much space. But it seemed they might have fixed that problem with tag teams sharing the same momentum meter.</font>

[Funky Fly]

Done with this shit. UFC patch is out before the SVR 09 patch for 360? Fuck it.

[The Jayman]

I do remember the old smackdown games commercials. they were pretty good. The Kurt Angle one was my favorite

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Odd development. Yoshi Tatsu is in the game...as DLC:

http://gamingring.com/news/?p=6441

Makes sense for him to not be on the regular roster, as he just debuted a month ago...just seems funny to have a DLC guy announced before most of the regular roster.</font>

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

It would be cool if the NSI guys are DLC

[CSL]

I would pay the DLC fee just for Tatsu's theme (Don't let the fact that I have the theme and that the game supports custom soundtracks get in the way of this post)

[DAMN iNATOR]

As much as I like Tatsu, I was kinda MEH about this announcement. All I'm really waiting to see is if (HOPEFULLY) Zack Ryder will make the main roster as I only have a PS2 and as such obviously can't access any of the DLC :(, but I can't see why they would leave him out...if they did, it would be criminal.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I really don't like Ryder's chances of making it, unfortunately. The cutoff date for the main roster seems to be more around WM time, hence why I was surprised to see even Dolph Ziggler made it. Ryder did basically nothing for ages until he got moved to ECW.

His only real chance at getting in is if they include Hawkins & Ryder in the game just for the sake of getting a tag team in. He'd be the old Zack Ryder, but it could be like La Resistance and Vito a few years ago where he is in the game as his old self but has his new tron and theme.</font>

[DAMN iNATOR]

I really don't like Ryder's chances of making it, unfortunately. The cutoff date for the main roster seems to be more around WM time, hence why I was surprised to see even Dolph Ziggler made it. Ryder did basically nothing for ages until he got moved to ECW.

His only real chance at getting in is if they include Hawkins & Ryder in the game just for the sake of getting a tag team in. He'd be the old Zack Ryder, but it could be like La Resistance and Vito a few years ago where he is in the game as his old self but has his new tron and theme.

They may go that route with him, or seeing as how Hawkins hasn't been used since at least pre-draft. Yeah he was around and active before then but that was with Ryder. I honestly think it'd be in their best interest, if they're going to include Ryder in the game, that they leave Hawkins out and not have the Edgeheads in as a stable this year.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

Would've thought there would be at least a screen shot or two by now. I mean the game is due out in about 3 months

[DAMN iNATOR]

Well, the first details are coming at SummerSlam, which is the 23rd of this month...and then probably by mid-to-late September, we should start getting the roster announcements on weekdays via IGN's annual SmackDown! Countdown.:y: So, patience, my friend.

[D Mac]

This game better be good, or I'm quitting this series. :mad:

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah, seriously last chance on my end. They're probably aware of this in the grand scheme of things.

[The Mackem]

When people say this one is crap, I'm going to believe them.

No GM mode ruined it for me. Granted this years was the first I had bought since 2006 but I would still play 2006 whereas the only reason for me to go back to last years effort is for a one off exhibition match.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

SvR 2010

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[Lord-Of-Darkness]

Looks cool. Not much to note from that video. I'm mainly interested in this customisation that they keep teasing.

I'll end up getting this anyway, as I do every year

[Fignuts]

So it's a travesty if triple h is shown getting beat up by another wrestler in a magazine preview, but it's ok if a jimmy fallon caw gets offense on him on national television.

Fucking retards.

[Disturbed316]

Looks exactly the same as 09. Why is Summerslam 08 areana in? Shouldn't it be 09 come release? The new camera affect for finishers is better than previous years.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

It may look simaler to 09, but we don't know how it plays yet, as well as whats been changed. Hell, if you showed me a picture of 08 next to 09, I probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference, save for different attires.

Too soon to tell IMO

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I'll download it

Hell, if I paid for these games, I wouldn't have touched one since the first one that came out on 360.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Looks exactly the same as 09. Why is Summerslam 08 areana in? Shouldn't it be 09 come release? The new camera affect for finishers is better than previous years.

I can think of 2 possibilities:

A.) They've not yet put in all the new arenas for the '010 build (not likely)

2.) Seeing as how a bulk of the information regarding how the game will play is set to come forth at this year's SummerSlam event on the 23rd of this month, it is far more likely that they will probably unveil the game with all the '09 arenas, including SummerSlam at that event...I'm guessing they just want to surprise us all with how great it will (or at least, should) look.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I'm digging the finisher effect this time around. It looks a lot like the slowmotion black and white from a few years back. Personally, I've always thought slow motion is the best effect for finishers. Now if only we can get immediate post match replays.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Actually, I've come up with a third, and most likely, reason why they showed the SummerSlam '08 arena as probably being this year's SummerSlam arena in the game: We got the SummerSlam '07 arena in the game last year, because I believe all the arenas from Backlash through Armageddon every year in every game, are always a year behind the current year (i.e., therefore, every arena from Backlash through Armageddon will probably feature the '08 sets, Armageddon especially due to the obvious fact that the '09 Armageddon event will not have taken place at the time of SvR '10's release.) However, it is quite likely that, following this logic, Royal Rumble '09, No Way Out '09 and WrestleMania 25 will be in, as they took place early enough in the year to actually get a good idea of how they need to model those arenas.

Not to say it's not possible that Backlash-SummerSlam '09 couldn't make the game, it's just not likely, because they've never had the current year's PPV arenas in past WM...

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The SvR.com countdown clock expires tomorrow at 3 PM EST...wonder if any info will be released or if it'll just be something gay like a trailer.</font>

[Kalyx triaD]

Let's go with something gay.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol, apparently that countdown clock is based on your computer clock.

If you set it past the time it's supposed to go up, the site opens up and just says "CLICK TO WATCH ON GAMESPOT.COM", but it just goes to Google. Sounds like it will just be a trailer though.

Easily the latest we've gone without info.</font>

[DAMN iNATOR]

That's because the actual first details are being released and the first build of the game will be shown at SummerSlam this Sunday. Patience, guys. I'm sure the trailer is just to whet (that is proper spelling and usage of grammar, btw, in case there are any grammar police lurking about...) our whistles for what we will see Sunday.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Pfft, screenshots.:roll: Lame, albeit new...

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen001.jpg (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/wwesmackdownvsraw2010/images/6215820/2/?tag=screenshot)

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen002.jpg (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/wwesmackdownvsraw2010/images/6215820/3/?tag=screenshot)

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen003.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen004.jpg

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen005.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen006.jpg

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen007.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen008.jpg

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen009.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen010.jpg

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen011.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen012.jpg

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen013.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen014.jpg

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen015.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen016.jpg

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen017.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen018.jpg

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen019.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen020.jpg

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen021.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen022.jpg

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen023.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen024.jpg

[LuigiD]

Only one factor will decide if I buy this game..
General Manager Mode or something close to it.
UNLESS..It has a brand new engine with 100% completely different controls. I just keep feeling like I am buying the same game every year and General Manager is probably the only recent addition that makes me want to keep playing.

[Xero]

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960291_20090820_790screen015.jpg

10 more! 10 hi-ya-ya! 9 hi-ya-ya!...

[Cool King]

The screen shots are....intresting I guess. :-\

I do like the look of CAW though. Picking your pose sounds good, and judging by the looks of it, It looks better than last years CAW. It looks more detailed this year.

As for the shot of Orton and Maryse, I don't know what the hell that is or can be. Just randomly guessing, I'd say it's probably create a Vignette or a Promo or even a TitanTron. Something like that anyway. :-\

Though the rest does look just like 09 but with updated attires. Like Orton looks EXACTLY the same as he did in 09 but the only difference is that he has his tattoos on his arms now. (Which would be good to read that passage on his elbow now. I've been wanting to know what that says since he first got it. :p)

So far, I'd say it's looking good. :y:

[Cool King]

Also, it looks like Chioda isn't the referee anymore. Now it's just some random referee.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>VERY interested in seeing more about this editor.

Not sure who that ref is, might be John Cone or something.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Actually, scratch that, GameSpot has some info on it. Create-a-Story 4tw:</font>

http://www.gamespot.com/sports/blogs/sports-blog/909097139/27006692/smackdown-vs-raw-2010-creation-is-king.html

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm also interested in the editor pics. The CAW looks streamlined, but that points thing at the bottom right is giving me worries.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Sounds hella interesting tbh...almost like EWR with graphics. Makes up for the lack of a real story mode...we're only getting 6 Road to WM stories again (one of which is a divas one) but ah well.

And it's coming out October 20, two months from now. Like a month early than the standard release.</font>

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

Create a story, edit a superstar, and an improved CAW?

OK, feeling positive about this so far :y:

[jcmoorehead]

I have been dreaming about Create A Story in these games for ages. Moved this from a 'meh' to a 'buy' now.

[Cool King]

For existing WWE Superstars, there's a "Superstar Threads" tool to customize their outfits--such as changing up the colors of Rey Mysterio Jr.'s masks and ring attire to something completely of your choosing.

Finally! Also, lol at them adding "Jr." to Mysterio's name. He hasn't used "Jr." at the end of his name for years.

When in the ring, you can expect to see a back-to-basics approach in terms of presentation. The game's sometimes cluttered HUD from previous years has been stripped down. Gone are the health meter and location-specific damage meters that sat in the upper corners of the screen. Instead, the game is focusing much more on the body language of the wrestlers to convey their relative health. The only HUD elements that will remain are a small halo appearing underneath each wrestler that acts as a momentum meter, and the occasional reversal timing indicator that will pop onscreen above the wrestlers' heads.

I have a feeling I'll take a while to get use to that. Hopefully the halo thing they talk about isn't on the screen constantly. I would find it annoying if it was.

Other control changes include a new pinfall kickout system borrowed from THQ's Legends of WrestleMania game (which requires you to fill up a meter in order to kick out of a pin)

Now this I don't like. :-\

I hated the pin meter in LOW. I could never or rarely kick out of pins with it. Though while I always had a hard time kicking out of pins, the CPU never had any problems with it and always kicked out on a 1 count. I always felt a bit screwed by that.

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/231/960294_20090820_790screen005.jpg

The Wii version doesn't look all that great. :-\ Though to me, it sortof looks like what No Mercy would look like if it were made today. If you know what I mean.

[Juan]

Only one factor will decide if I buy this game..
General Manager Mode or something close to it.
UNLESS..It has a brand new engine with 100% completely different controls. I just keep feeling like I am buying the same game every year and General Manager is probably the only recent addition that makes me want to keep playing.

It is the same game every year. They make a few improvements and claim to have a better CAW feature, but in the end its all the same.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah, if you don't like it by now...

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wow, I just realized...

Usually IGN has the exclusive right to announce new content first, before other sites can (including GameSpot)...and this year GameSpot announced all this stuff first and IGN has said absolutely nothing about the game.

So yeah, RIP SmackDown Countdown? The game is out in 2 months and there has been no mention of a countdown, unless they are doing 2 a day or there is a really small roster (which would piss on everything announced already IMO).</font>

[Kalyx triaD]

Fuck IGN.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I'm also interested in the editor pics. The CAW looks streamlined, but that points thing at the bottom right is giving me worries.


I think it might be points you earn through either Career or Story mode, assuming you'll be able to take a C-A-W through either, like a way to address concerns about, "Oh, in Career Mode, my stats always progressed so slowly [in SvR '09]", so maybe the points thing allows slightly faster buildup of your Overall ranking through playing Career mode. Purely speculative obviously, but we'll see.

[Cool King]

I've just found out that it looks like you guys in America and Canada are going to get the game before Europe does for the first time since SmackDown! vs. RAW in 2004.

Though it's only three days before Europe, but still, you get it before us. That's something.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I don't know what to think about the reversals being just one button now. Why do they always fix things that weren't even a problem?

I'm excited about the create-a-story mode, but I wonder how long something like that would take. Might have to get a PS Keyboard for quicker text entry or something.

I didn't really play LoW, so I don't know about the pin kick out system. Sounds stupid, though. Again, something being fixed that wasn't broken. If you don't have a meter filled up, can you still kick out of a pin?