LOST Theories (will have spoliers)

[Jeritron]

It was a brilliant finale on so many levels. It gave us one final twist that completely defined the alt. universe as such an amazing portion to the story/ending.
I can't wait to go back and watch it again and notice things. I just thought about how awesome it was that when they all went in the church to move on, Ben opted to sit and wait outside and think about what he'd done.

The Jack arch completion was unreal. Perfect. I love that his last act was the ultimate "I need to fix things." I love that it didn't happen right away when he put the stone back either, and it sort of made you wonder if his destiny was going to be fufilled. Then the light came on and the water poured over him.
When I saw him stumbling into the bamboo area it hit me how perfect it was going to be. Having him see the plane getting away and the eye closing were the two perfect final strokes.

MIB's plan ultimately succeeding, but costing him his powers long enough for him to get killed. Genius.

I love that the Island continued on with Hurley and Ben. Hurley wasn't exactly the person I figured would get left in charge of the island, but since they didn't show much after that point, it wasn't really major, so in that respect it was a good choice. Jack always liked and trusted him. Ben belonged on the island, so having him stay and help was another great choice.
Kate and Sawyer leaving was important seeing as they lived. I felt one of them taking over wouldn't have been as good. Sawyer is a bit too hard, and Jack knowing Kate got to go home was a big part of his ending.

And it was awesome how many great lines and shots were incorporated naturally to pay tribute the series as a whole.
Jack and Fake Locke looking down the waterfall as it panned like the hatch at the end of Season 1 was immense. Tons of great lines and sayings from the show got worked in.

Even the enlightenment scenes in the afterlife were a clever device to revisit past moments in the finale, while coming naturally the story and not serving like a clip show/nostalgia fest.

Just generally thought it was great in every way. Better than I'd even expected really. Finales are usually disappointing in some way, and even though I had faith in this one it was a concern.

[Jeritron]

It was a brilliant finale on so many levels. It gave us one final twist that completely defined the alt. universe as such an amazing portion to the story/ending.
I can't wait to go back and watch it again and notice things. I just thought about how awesome it was that when they all went in the church to move on, Ben opted to sit and wait outside and think about what he'd done.

The Jack arch completion was unreal. Perfect. I love that his last act was the ultimate "I need to fix things." I love that it didn't happen right away when he put the stone back either, and it sort of made you wonder if his destiny was going to be fufilled. Then the light came on and the water poured over him.
When I saw him stumbling into the bamboo area it hit me how perfect it was going to be. Having him see the plane getting away and the eye closing were the two perfect final strokes.

MIB's plan ultimately succeeding, but costing him his powers long enough for him to get killed. Genius.

I love that the Island continued on with Hurley and Ben. Hurley wasn't exactly the person I figured would get left in charge of the island, but since they didn't show much after that point, it wasn't really major, so in that respect it was a good choice. Jack always liked and trusted him. Ben belonged on the island, so having him stay and help was another great choice.
Kate and Sawyer leaving was important seeing as they lived. I felt one of them taking over wouldn't have been as good. Sawyer is a bit too hard, and Jack knowing Kate got to go home was a big part of his ending.

And it was awesome how many great lines and shots were incorporated naturally to pay tribute the series as a whole.
Jack and Fake Locke looking down the waterfall as it panned like the hatch at the end of Season 1 was immense. Tons of great lines and sayings from the show got worked in.

Even the enlightenment scenes in the afterlife were a clever device to revisit past moments in the finale, while coming naturally the story and not serving like a clip show/nostalgia fest.

Just generally thought it was great in every way. Better than I'd even expected really. Finales are usually disappointing in some way, and even though I had faith in this one it was a concern.
It ended up being perfect for me.

[Jeritron]

Made that huge post in the other thread, but I figured it belonged in here. Not that any of you have to care, but I figured I'd put it here

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, this is probably one of the most satisfying TV series finales I have ever seen.

[wwe2222]

Going to sleep now, wanted to see everyone's comments and just say that I didnt even care if I knew all the answers or not. What a terriffic ending to a great show.

[RoXer]

Guys, the plane didn't get away. Did you not see the credits? I thought that was the plane that crashed.

Jack putting the cork on would re-powerup the electromagnitism and would crash the plane. No?

[wwe2222]

I took it to mean that when you die in the Island timeline, you merge with alternate/heaven timeline. Or something Either way, pretty horrible.

I guess the writers/producers were right when they said the *island* wasn't purgatory/heaven.

pretty horrible? Are you for real?

[RoXer]

I believe I called the last scene of the show to be Jack WAKING UP in the jungle in the season 2 thread after I read The Third Policeman.

Almost.

[Lock Jaw]

Guys, the plane didn't get away. Did you not see the credits? I thought that was the plane that crashed.

Jack putting the cork on would re-powerup the electromagnitism and would crash the plane. No?

I didn't see anything in the credits. Not sure what you speak of. Last thing I saw was Jack's eye closing.

But perhaps this plane you saw was the remains of the Oceanic flight?

[Jeritron]

I love how Jack's story saw it's beginning, middle and end laying on his back in that bamboo thicket.

It's where he arrived on the island, obviously, but also where he landed when he went back, and was a changed man of faith, and finally it was where he died after his purpose was met.

[Jeritron]

Guys, the plane didn't get away. Did you not see the credits? I thought that was the plane that crashed.

Jack putting the cork on would re-powerup the electromagnitism and would crash the plane. No?

That was the wreckage of 815. I took as just a powerful image of what the show was really about, wrapping things up and setting in during the credits.

But that probably has legs to be debated by people. Wouldn't be suprised if it was intentionally done for double meaning.
Unless of course you can clearly see it says oceanic on the wreckage. I wasn't looking closely.

Either way, it stood out to me as just showing the original wreckage from the first episode to let the full circle journey set in.

[wwe2222]

That was the wreckage of 815. I took as just a powerful image of what the show was really about, wrapping things up and setting in during the credits.

But that probably has legs to be debated by people. Wouldn't be suprised if it was intentionally done for double meaning.
Unless of course you can clearly see it says oceanic on the wreckage. I wasn't looking closely.

Either way, it stood out to me as just showing the original wreckage from the first episode to let the full circle journey set in.

:y: right. really it was one last glimpse of where we spent the last 6 years

[RoXer]

Yeah I didn't really look either. If it is 815 then yeah, they may shown it to show how there are still items to be left there for future generations to find on the island. Like the temple, statue, black rock, and now the plane.

[RoXer]

Loved the Target commercials btw

[Jeritron]

Hurley mentions doing things differently. I don't think he'd allow for such a downer thing to happen. Even if they did he'd get them right home.
Obviously I'm of the mind that it's not the wreckage though. If it's there to be debated, I know where I stand. Them getting home is part of what made Jack happy in his death. That's how I like it.
But I honestly feel it wasn't supposed to represent that either.

Pretty cool that Ben is Hurley's Richard. It's interesting to ponder what The Island ended up being like for them, and what went on and how and when did Hurley and Linus decide to move on and hand over control.
Also cool that Richard got to live, and decided he wanted to live. Cool to think that he'll get to grow old and die naturally in the modern world which he's never seen.
It's also interesting to think of what kind of lives Kate and Sawyer live back home.

There's plenty of happy but interesting endings there for some characters, that are fun to ponder without being things you really want to actually see.

[Jeritron]

Did Desmond get home? Last I remember is him getting safely out of the cave, but did he make it to the plane or is he with Hurley and Ben on the island still?
Was pretty caught up in the rest of the ending and missed that.

[wwe2222]

Hurley mentions doing things differently. I don't think he'd allow for such a downer thing to happen. Even if they did he'd get them right home.
Obviously I'm of the mind that it's not the wreckage though. If it's there to be debated, I know where I stand. Them getting home is part of what made Jack happy in his death. That's how I like it.
But I honestly feel it wasn't supposed to represent that either.

Pretty cool that Ben is Hurley's Richard. It's interesting to ponder what The Island ended up being like for them, and what went on and how and when did Hurley and Linus decide to move on and hand over control.
Also cool that Richard got to live, and decided he wanted to live. Cool to think that he'll get to grow old and die naturally in the modern world which he's never seen.
It's also interesting to think of what kind of lives Kate and Sawyer live back home.

There's plenty of happy but interesting endings there for some characters, that are fun to ponder without being things you really want to actually see.

Not to nitpick, but Richard has spent a fair amount of time off the Island in the modern world. I agree with what you are saying though!

I love that Ben became Hurley's Richard

[wwe2222]

Did Desmond get home? Last I remember is him getting safely out of the cave, but did he make it to the plane or is he with Hurley and Ben on the island still?
Was pretty caught up in the rest of the ending and missed that.

Hmmm I dont remember him on the plane

EDIT: He was with Ben and Hurley. Im sure he sailed off the Island in his boat

[RoXer]

Did anyone watch Alias? How did that end?

[Lock Jaw]

I'm still too wired from this to go to sleep, and it ended three hours ago.

[Jeritron]

Hmmm I dont remember him on the plane

EDIT: He was with Ben and Hurley. Im sure he sailed off the Island in his boat

Yea, I'm pretty sure he missed the flight. It doesn't matter too much though, since if he wants to go home Hurley can let that happen, and he obviously would.
Obviously he wants to go home and see Penny and his child, also. Widmore took him against his will to begin with.

That's really the beauty of Hurley running things. As they say, he can do things his way and you know you're going to get pure and fair intentions.
Ben staying is perfect, not only because The Island is his only home, but because he's such a morally ambiguous character like Lock Jaw said.
Serving Hurley is really part of his real life pennance. It's also great that he's welcome to move on in the afterlife with all of the other good characters, but chooses to think about his bad deeds for a while longer.

[wwe2222]

I'm still too wired from this to go to sleep, and it ended three hours ago.

me too

[Jeritron]

All season long I had been pretty hopeful that real Locke's character would return in the Island timeline, but after the way tonight's episode went, I really have changed my mind.

His character arc had completed and the way his beliefs and presence were carried on through the other characters was perfect. Especially since we learn that he was ultimately right, and in a better place. MIB called him a sucker, but he ended up dying in such a way that proves destiny. That's stronger vindication.

Having him rise from the dead really wouldn't served to do anything but be momentarily exciting and expected. Him living on through Jack was way better.
He couldn't have really done anything other than fill the Jacob role for some time before dying again, and that wouldn't really be worth it.
Hurley's on that. Locke did his part.
Just goes to show how it's hard to judge or set expectations before seeing how the whole design unfolds.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Just finished about 20 minutes ago here in the UK. I am seriously lost for words. It was fantastic. The ending just made it clear that all these questions that weren't answered weren't really necessary and I honestly can't think of a better way to end it.

[Jeritron]

I'm so impressed that they managed to make one massive final twist, that had such profound meaning behind it, rather than just being there to be shocking or a cliffhanger.
I think everyone had been rightfully scratching their heads over the alt. universe all season, and probably even all during tonights episode, until in an instant it all made sense and became clear.
May sound kind of cheesy, but in a way it was almost like it was for the characters. Instantaneous enlightenment. The viewing experience mirrored the story.

[Jeritron]

Which theme from the musical score was playing during the final minutes?

[Lock Jaw]

I'm surprised Miles made it all the way to the end and off the island. He didn't really have a "role" on the show, but was just kinda there. I mean, I loved his character. Just didn't feel he was there for a reason.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Which theme from the musical score was playing during the final minutes?

I'm not actually sure about that but we got about 3 variations on Hollywood and Vines :D

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Also I loved the whole "Christian Shephard" as in him being a shepherd, and then leading them all into the light at the end. Excellent touch I thought.

[Jeritron]

I can't wait to watch the whole thing through again from the start now that it's over

[Jeritron]

Oh yea, Hollywood and Vines being in there was so awesome

[Jeritron]

After Jack explains how he thinks Desmond is a weapon that was there for a purpose from Jacob:

"That's one hell of a long con, Doc" -Sawyer.

Loved that line, among so many others

[Jeritron]

"Go back to your wife and son."
"What about you?"
"I'll see you in another life, brother."

[RoXer]

Jin and Sun's unborn baby is dead too? What about the one that's alive and off island? What happens to it?

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Ben not going with everybody else as well was good too. Plenty of reasons as to why he wouldn't want to go just yet.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

btw Jeritron, you and Kano are two of my favourite people to see talk about Lost as you have as much, if not more passion for the programme as myself (no homo)

[Jeritron]

Jin and Sun's unborn baby is dead too? What about the one that's alive and off island? What happens to it?

I don't think everyone and everything in the afterlife is really concrete and set in stone other than the characters it revolves around.
Like Jack's son. He's not real, but rather just a way of helping Jack heal his father issues, and move to the point of being ready.
I think the same goes for Jin and Sun's unborn child there. It's part of their odyssey.

Though I do think there's some substance to characters like Ana Lucia (who we see in the afterlife), Michael, and others not being in the church at the end. They're probably still doing time in the purgatory of that "alternate universe."
Since it's such a spiritual thing, I don't think there's much substance to too much logic and rules. It's all happening in both an instant, and for eternity in a way.
It's not like their souls sit an wait until the precise moment when their enlightened, in succession. They die and go to that point, it all just unfolds in a manner that is visible to the audience and shows their passing on/becoming ready.

Anthony Cooper sits there and drools on himself for eternity. Brilliant. Though he could probably deserve even worse. Hopefully he's also in some personal mental hell.

[FearedSanctity]

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[Tb1]

I don't have a complaint. Probably the best finale of all-time.

[Jeritron]

btw Jeritron, you and Kano are two of my favourite people to see talk about Lost as you have as much, if not more passion for the programme as myself (no homo)

Yea man, this show has really been a great time for me. I love talking about it on here too, and I enjoy your posts and discussion just as much as you enjoy mine.
Kinda gonna miss discussing with "the regulars" from the Lost thread.

[Lock Jaw]

http://i50.tinypic.com/4lt7pv.jpg

EPIC

[FearedSanctity]

Pretty sure Richard was on the plane

[Corporate CockSnogger]

http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo111/softcoeur/finalecap.jpg

[Jeritron]

God that was incredible when Vincent laid down next to him, not only because it's amazingly heartwarming, but because it totally goes with the mirroring of the first shot of the show.
Seeing that plane leaving too.

That last scene really is worth every ounce of anticipation.

[Jeritron]

Jack's story is like the greatest thing ever.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

None of the freighter folk were in the church at the end were they?

[Jeritron]

No. It was pretty much just the 815 survivors, and Penny and Desmond.

[FearedSanctity]

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And shots from the credits, for those who may not have gotten to see it:

http://i50.tinypic.com/if7ghw.jpg

[Jeritron]

That's Oceanic

[FearedSanctity]

Yeah, quite clearly too. Dunno how anyone could say otherwise.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Reading stuff over at a Lost forum and plenty of people seem to be unhappy about the ending. But hey that's the internet for ya.

[Requiem]

Jack's story was brilliant from start to finish. :'(

[Jeritron]

Reading stuff over at a Lost forum and plenty of people seem to be unhappy about the ending. But hey that's the internet for ya.

I looked around to see a little feedback and I saw a lot of positive, and of course some negative.
I think overall it will have a stronger approval than probably expected for a finale, but there's obviously going to be a ton of haters. That's just life.

A big complaint I see is that it was emotionally satisfying but not intellectually satisfying, or some shit to that effect.
I don't really get it. That's not the point of the final part of a story. It should leave us feeling satisfied on an emotional level with the characters.
If there were more big intellectual issues, it would mean more big questions. Isn't that what they didn't want?

There's been plenty of intellectual reward and content all along. There's so much to talk about there.
Just because the finale isn't getting bogged down in that shit doesn't mean it's not also there.

I don't get it. Those people have driven me crazy for a while anyways. I don't think they're really as into what the show is really about, as much as they are the scientific/theoretical side and the idea of getting answers.
That stuff is all a big part of what makes the show great, but it's not really what storytelling is all about, or at the core of this story.

I'm glad I liked it, and seemingly all of you guys who discuss it with me on here.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Yeah most people that didn't enjoy it seem to be complaining that we got no answers to stuff like how it was possible for the likes of Jacob, Hurley, Walt, Miles etc to possess special gifts and also the origin of the light.

But the way I see it, people didn't complaing about how it wasn't possible for vampires to actually exist in Buffy, or how it would be unrealistic for Dr Who to do, well everything he does. So they shouldn't really complain about this.

I'm not even sure if that made any sense, I've been awake now for about 30 hours so I'm pretty tired.

[RoXer]

Yeah, quite clearly too. Dunno how anyone could say otherwise.

Couldn't really see the logo nor was I looking for it seconds after the final title popped up.

[FearedSanctity]

But it was still kinda obviously the same stretch of beach with the wreckage for the most part laid out the same.

Though I see your point where if you weren't really paying attention you may not have noticed

[Jeritron]

Exactly Igni. People never question that stuff in other things because they aren't so dialed into this false sense of deserving an answer for everything.
Supernatural is supernatural, and a little mystery is what makes that a compelling thing. If it wasn't that way, it would just be plain natural.
But they gave us plenty. I've been satisfied with the show from that angle for a couple weeks now. I just wanted to see how the final act of the story ended, and what happened with the characters.

If the finale was a shooting gallery of needless answers, it may have pleased a lot of people in the moment, but later set in as unfulfilling.
In the days, weeks and years that followed people would eventually realize that stuff only matters so much, and that there will always be more questions.
There'd be a void for a more rewarding and complete emotional closure.
The show had the sense to give that, because that's really what it's always been about anyways.

It's not like they didn't deal with the big questions either. They were just dealt with at earlier points in the season. That's still there, it just isn't in the design of the finale.
It was incredibly smart to wrap that aspect of the show up a couple weeks ago, and shift complete focus to the story and characters.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Oh shit yeah just remembered. At the very start of the episode it came up on my screen saying "Sorry there are technical difficulties". I stood up and was about to destroy something within range when it came on as normal after about 3 seconds.

Also over here in the UK, in between each flash from island time to flash sideways (should we really be calling it this now?) time it would come up saying "This is a live simulcast from the US" lol

[Requiem]

Honestly wasn't sure how I felt about the finale when it happened. I was left sitting there with a kind of 'empty' feeling, because it was all happening so fast and I couldn't grasp it all right then. Also, the show was ending. :( But after letting it sink in, I am finding it to be a fantastic ending to the series.

[St. Jimmy]

Ending was sensational, I was fucking gutted. Loved it. Would recommend to friends.

[Jeritron]

I was enjoying the island timeline immensely, but kind of scratching my head at the alt universe. I kept waiting for how it would end on that side.
Then came the scene in the room with the coffin. That was surreal. At that point I realized how great it was, and it all came together with the other stuff on the island.
Like I said earlier, when Jack stumbled into the bamboo I saw where that was going and I was just in awe.

[FearedSanctity]

At the beginning at was like "hell yeah, time to see how it ends"
Hour and a half in I was thinking "FUCK, this really is it"
15 minutes left I kept checking the time wishing it would go slower :'(

[FearedSanctity]

Pretty sure at some point during these 6 years EVERYONE knew it would end like it did in that final scene, I just don't think anyone would've thought it'd be set up to come off so powerfully.

[Jeritron]

How often is the last scene of a show the greatest scene of a show? Especially a show this great?

It's obviously debatable, but I feel the final scene is the greatest moment in the show's history. I probably thought "We have to go back" was until tonight.

[St. Jimmy]

http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/07/27/major-spoilers-kind-of-losts-final-scene-revealed/

[Corporate CockSnogger]

http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/07/27/major-spoilers-kind-of-losts-final-scene-revealed/

Haha. I loved how Michael Emerson pronounced Sylar

[RoXer]

Just remembered Jack's pancreas. Well I thought about it when I saw him get stabbed but just remembered to post it rn

[Corporate CockSnogger]

So a tonne of the props from the show are being auctioned. Here's a list of some of the stuff they're selling

http://www.profilesinhistory.com/lost-auction-preview/lost-auction-preview

Wish I was rich :(

[jcmoorehead]

I'm firmly in the camp that calls it one of the greatest endings to a show ever. They didn't explain a lot but at the end of it I didn't want them to, it was about the characters and their journeys and what an incredible journey it was, I honestly don't think a show will ever come close to doing what Lost has done for a long time.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The producers said they wanted the show to end where the viewer felt the story was wrapped up, but the meaning was left to the viewer's own interpretation. If that was the goal of the people making the show, I don't think there's any question that they pulled it off perfectly.

[wwe2222]

The people who hated the finale are the people who watched the show firmly for the mysteries of the Island. The mysteries and strange connections are what drew me in to the show, but I would never have kept watching or cared if not for the characters I was watching.

The journey of those characters was completed in a conclusive manner, especially Jack's tale.

I only really started posting alot in this thread during this season, which is too bad because this is the best place I found to discuss the show.

Glad so many of you enjoyed the ending.

[PapaGeorgio]

Yeah most people that didn't enjoy it seem to be complaining that we got no answers to stuff like how it was possible for the likes of Jacob, Hurley, Walt, Miles etc to possess special gifts and also the origin of the light.

But the way I see it, people didn't complaing about how it wasn't possible for vampires to actually exist in Buffy, or how it would be unrealistic for Dr Who to do, well everything he does. So they shouldn't really complain about this.

I'm not even sure if that made any sense, I've been awake now for about 30 hours so I'm pretty tired.

That is because these shows take place in their own universe. You accept that Doctor Who can time travel and do the shit he does because those are the rules for that tv show's universe. If all of a sudden Buffy turned into some flying superhero, it wouldn't fit into that universe. The special gifts are part of the Lost universe, but we understand why the Doctor does what he does.

[Hanso Amore]

I liked the finale.

though after thinking on i, I firmly do not believe this was the plan from day 1 (or at least many things changed) and the show was written as they go. Which is fine, but they like to play up the "we knew all along shit".

I still cant get over the idea that Jacob brought everone to the island as candidates and watched for 5 seasons while HIS PEOPLE continually tried to kill his candidates and allow them to leave only to come back in time etc.

I liked the ending, but i can see some frustration as they dropped so many elements and stories over the seasons.

And I love how in season one, most people were calling the Island as Purgatory, or the afterlife, and the producers were all " No, The ISLAND isnt" *grins*

totally fucking hilarious to me.

[Impeccable]

Honestly wasn't sure how I felt about the finale when it happened. I was left sitting there with a kind of 'empty' feeling, because it was all happening so fast and I couldn't grasp it all right then. Also, the show was ending. :( But after letting it sink in, I am finding it to be a fantastic ending to the series.

This:y:

The more I think about it, the more I think that this was one of the most clever season finale's ever.

We've spent 6 years talking about our own opinions about what the Island is, etc. I think we've got enough about the island, but I also think it leaves so much "unanswered" that it allows you to keep your own opinions on what has been going on, what everyone is, etc.

Beautiful!

[Impeccable]

The producers said they wanted the show to end where the viewer felt the story was wrapped up, but the meaning was left to the viewer's own interpretation. If that was the goal of the people making the show, I don't think there's any question that they pulled it off perfectly.

I didn't see this before I posted...D'oh!

[MVP]

I was overcome with happiness over how the show ended, but some sadness too realizing the show is over. I loved how every character was awakened by the most important things in their lives, especially Jin and Sun and Sawyer and Juliet.

[FearedSanctity]

So the bomb basically did nothing then, right?

[Corporate CockSnogger]

The jughead? I see that as simply being "the incident" of which we first heard about in Series 2.. The whole whatever happened, happened thing comes in. They were always meant to go back in time, and they were always meant to set off the bomb.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I was overcome with happiness over how the show ended, but some sadness too realizing the show is over. I loved how every character was awakened by the most important things in their lives, especially Jin and Sun and Sawyer and Juliet.
Yeah, but I thought it was interesting that Sayid awoke with Shannon who he basically had a fling with on the island instead of Nadia.

[CSL]

It just wasn't meant to happen.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

You weren't meant to happen

[MVP]

Yeah, but I thought it was interesting that Sayid awoke with Shannon who he basically had a fling with on the island instead of Nadia.

One interpretation of the ending where Sayid and Shannon end up together is that it's Jack's heaven, so it includes everyone that was around for the most important part of his life. Since Jack never knew Nadia it seems to make the most sense that Sayid and Shannon reunite if this interpretation is true. In Sayid's heaven he should be with Nadia.

[Next Big Thing]

I'm so excited for the eventual blockbuster movie directed by JJ Abrams. LOL! I think they definitely left room for the show to be revisited later in a prequel or sequel type manner.

I would definitely like to see how Ben and Hurley managed the island/ who their replacements were and the backstory for them. Ben's motives for staying could be interesting as well. Perhaps Walt returning to the island to free his father could be some sort of basis for a movie 5 years from now or so.

Also, when Eloise asked Desmond if he was going to take her son that told a lot about her knowledge. I think a prequel fleshing her story out could be intriguing as well.

I don't know about you guys, but I still have a hell of a lot of questions. Maybe because I don't want it to end. Actually that's exactly what it is. Damn that show. Beautiful end.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

That's fair enough that you would want those things, but I personally would hate it if they revisited it at some point, especially for a movie a few years down the line.

It ended brilliantly and I would just love it to stay that way.

[CSL]

I don't/didn't ever want it to end but if they ever made a film etc, I think I'd murder Hollywood. But they won't.

[XCaliber]

It was a nice ending but I still feel unsastified when it's all said and done it's like the writers brought in all this sappy stuff to make peeps forget about all the plot holes made along the way.

[Jeritron]

They know full well that the backlash would far exceed the excitement. Not to mention the fact that the writers and creators flat out wouldn't do it, I don't think. I don't know them, so I can't say with certainty, but I'm pretty confident of how they operate, from years of watching their show and listening to them.

Not to mention any kind of film exploring the stuff Next Big Thing mentioned simply wouldn't draw. There's no respectable way to continue or expand upon the stories of Jack and Locke, and they're the big guns.

I wouldn't have wanted a movie or spinoff anyways, but after last night I REALLY don't want it, nor do I see it happening.
Maybe in another life, brotha.

[Jeritron]

It was a nice ending but I still feel unsastified when it's all said and done it's like the writers brought in all this sappy stuff to make peeps forget about all the plot holes made along the way.

I never felt anything was sappy in the least. That was one thing that actually impressed me. The goodbye between Jack and Kate, and the final heaven scene all came off as so genuine and natural, and never felt forced or sappy to me.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I remember seeing an interview with the writers saying that they personally would never touch the show again in terms of further episodes or movies or anything, but they then went on to say that it's still Hollywood and somewhere down the line somebody will probably try to dig it up and exploit it for some money.

[Next Big Thing]

That's fair enough that you would want those things, but I personally would hate it if they revisited it at some point, especially for a movie a few years down the line.

It ended brilliantly and I would just love it to stay that way.

You're exactly right. But there was definitely a point during this season and particularly the last episode that made me think they were leaving the door open.

As far as the writers... I also remember them saying that the island wasn't hell or purgatory, but it sort of seemed that way to me. LOL! And if it came down to them letting some hack bastardize the show and make a shitty movie or them stepping in reluctantly to do it, I think they'd jump in.

[Jeritron]

I think there's a difference between leaving futures for the characters in the story, and "leaving the door open" though.
In any good story you're always going to have closure, but also have characters and events that continue off-screen in the imagination. That doesn't really mean it's setting up for a sequel.
That would mean anything short of killing off every character is leaving the door open.

I don't feel like it leaves the door open any more than Return of the King, or Return of the Jedi, or any other final chapter to big pop mythology.

[Next Big Thing]

True. I don't want it to happen, but if we're talking about a hypothetical opening to continue... Walt's character has a connection to the island and major players which creates an opening for an intro. The last thing we had of him was John telling Ben the only way he'd participate in his scheme was if Walt was spared. Not to mention his father is "trapped" on the island for his sins.

As far as characters outside of Jack and Kates stories drawing and creating interest in a future show, the beauty of Lost was that minor, seemingly peripheral characters were able to develop into more. During the first season, Jack and Kate certainly carried it in my opinion, but at certain points from season 2 on, the stories and development of Hurley, Sawyer, Juliet, Ben, Eko, Jin and Sun, Witmore all carried and intrigued me more than Jack.

I have no doubt that if the show was revisited (God forbid, knock on wood) people would watch because of the intrigue that the backstory of these new characters along with their connection to the old ones. Again Walt could be a great focal points for flash backs to characters like Locke who is buried on the island we assume.

Again let me reiterate, I love the show. I'm kinda in denial that it's over. I'm probably going to regret saying this, but the scene with Jack and Vincent and later with Jack and his dad almost made me pass some eye water and need some weakness tissues. However, I see where the show could be resurrected down the line and still have a linear connection to the original.

Plus never say never. Sex and the City was huge and they're on their second movie now. Star Trek got prequeled, as did sex and the city. Star Wars was prequeled. Indiana Jones was resurrected and then viciously slaughtered by two greats in Spielberg and Lucas. Aren't there also talks of another great t.v. classic The Sopranos going to film?

[Requiem]

One interpretation of the ending where Sayid and Shannon end up together is that it's Jack's heaven, so it includes everyone that was around for the most important part of his life. Since Jack never knew Nadia it seems to make the most sense that Sayid and Shannon reunite if this interpretation is true. In Sayid's heaven he should be with Nadia.

I believe it had to do with their true loves. Who they were destined to be with. That's why Jack never had a flashback with Juliet even though they'd been married and saw each other all the time. They weren't meant to be together. Jack and Kate were meant to be together, Sawyer and Juliet were together, Sayid and Shannon, Hurley and Libby, Claire and Charlie.

Edit: Also, Christian said THEY created this place so they could meet up. Not just Jack.

[Lock Jaw]

My dreams were 100% Lost-related last night.

I ended up on The Island with Hurley and Ben, along with a new batch of people. Hurley was like "Dude, what are we gonna do" and Ben was like "People are always going to be drawn to The Island, Hugo. What happens next is up to you".

So Hurley set out to rewrite "the rules" of The Island so that these people did not end up like the Dharma Initiative or as "evil" as The Others.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Can't wait for Lost: the New Class starring Hurley and Mr. Belding.

[Jeritron]

and Linus as Screech

[thedamndest]

They could probably get Dustin Diamond to play Screech.

[McLegend]

I'm sure they could get Bob Golic to.

[The Destroyer]

I really, really enjoyed that.

Gave a good sense of closure and left just enough questions unanswered to keep a bit of a sense of mystery. Loved the symmetry with the end and the beginning as well.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Lol just remembered Miles took the diamonds Nikki and Paulo were searching for a few episodes back. Guess when he got back to America he was pretty rich.

[Next Big Thing]

Edit: Also, Christian said THEY created this place so they could meet up. Not just Jack.[/QUOTE]

Quick hits:

I like how even in his alternate universe Sayid is still a brooding killer.

Always going to wonder what became of immortal Richard.

Makes since for Farraday, Charlotte, and Miles to be separate as they arrived together with a different agenda. Same with Rousseau, Ben, and Alex.

Also when Ben and Hugo complimented each other on being good number one and number two on the island did anyone else go crazy thinking about their tenure and how it ultimately ended?

[RoXer]

Was the lighthouse a way to look into the alt universe of simply off island? Was rewatching it and noticing mirrors and had me wondering

[Requiem]

'immortal richard' isn't immortal anymore. He got his first grey hair before they left, and made the comment about how he wanted to live. Figure he probably lived the rest of his life off the island and died of old age.

[MoFo]

What happened to the numbers actually meaning something?

I DONT GET IT

[Hanso Amore]

the numbers corresponded to candidates on the lighthouse wheel.

Richard did indeed become mortal again, as the island lost is power.

I wonder at what point Jack and Hurley gain powers...like seemed the same to me. WHen did they get Mystical Jacob powers? Hurley would totally recreate star wars

[Jeritron]

I wouldn't overestimate Jacob's powers. I think they have an overall commune with The Island that allows them to set rules, but I don't think they are all powerful.
Keep in mind that Jacob was mortal, and the only things we ever saw him do was have the ability to not age, and share that ability, and also touch people to bring to the island.
It's not like he was shooting lightning out of his fingertips, so I wouldn't expect Jack to be doing those things either.
Jack seemed like he was slowly coming to understand his abilities. I think that was the point of showing him standing in the water letting it sink in. He even admitted he wasn't exactly sure what's different. Yet he was instantly able to arrive at the light source, and seemed to have stronger instincts. That's probably the deal. You grow into it, I guess. Jacob didn't seem any different once he drank the wine.

[Next Big Thing]

'immortal richard' isn't immortal anymore. He got his first grey hair before they left, and made the comment about how he wanted to live. Figure he probably lived the rest of his life off the island and died of old age.

Damn I must of missed the part about Richard greying. Frank's chest hair and new bad ass too good for the walkie talkie I've got a plane to fly attitude stole every scene he and Richard had together.

He was the only character on the show other than Michael that I hoped would get killed off.

[McLegend]

Maybe I missed this.

At the end how did Jack end up in the bamboo jungle or whatever it's called?

[Next Big Thing]

Speaking of Michael and why he never got a bigger part than just a token appearance as a ghost, could these comments from 2008 after Michael was blown up have made the producers leery on using him?

Listen, if I'm being really candid, there are all these questions about how they respond to black people on the show. Sayid gets to meet Nadia again, and Desmond and Penny hook up again, but a little black boy and his father hooking up, that wasn't interesting? Instead, Walt just winds up being another fatherless child. It plays into a really big, weird stereotype and, being a black person myself, that wasn't so interesting.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Maybe I missed this.

At the end how did Jack end up in the bamboo jungle or whatever it's called?

He walked

[McLegend]

How did he get out of the cave? Wasn't there only one way in and out?

[Jeritron]

When he turned the light on, he was left in it.
That was what they were afraid would kill him.

It teleported him to an exit though. It's just sort of a metaphysical thing, like how the donkey wheel makes you end up somewhere when turned.
In fact, he ended up in the same place I think MIB ended up after he went into the light cave.
You just come out somewhere in the nearby jungle.

[McLegend]

That works for me.

[Johnny McNasty]

Just finished watching the finale about an hour ago. I've spent the last 30 mins reading through this thread while listening to the Lost soundtrack and bawling like a baby. That ending was so beautiful. I loved all the nods at some of the earlier big moments of the show. I really can't believe it is over, I'm such a f'n wreck right now. I've got to suck it up before my room mate comes home and sees me this way.

[Hanso Amore]

He woke up on a tree, in the same spot as MIBs body was when it was cast out of the hole hwen he became smokie.

[Tb1]

Yeah, I cried for about 30-40 minutes this morning.

[Hanso Amore]

I just rewatched it.

it just now sunk in with jacks goodbyes. Like they all know he is dying. He knows it. Even Sawyer and Jack make peace and finally connect in a sense. jack and kate say goodbye forever. Hurleys goodbye was touching too. And then to finish it off with Desmond. Wow.

[FearedSanctity]

Maybe I missed this.

At the end how did Jack end up in the bamboo jungle or whatever it's called?

Also, in the beginning of the episode Jack described the light as being near the bamboo field by their beach

[Optimus Bone 69]

Amazing!!! cant believe ive been so upset over this show ending, even getting a little leaky eyed but i thought it was done perfectly

[Tb1]

"Kiss me, James." "You got it blondie."

[Jeritron]

Jack and Kate's goodbye was incredible

[Jeritron]

I watched the pilot just a while ago. It's a whole new experience going back to the start

[wwe2222]

Im very happy Desmond played a big role in the end game of Lost. From the moment he appeared in Season 2, something about him just made him my favorite character.

I know he didnt ultimately save the day (that could only have been Jack's job), but Jack couldnt have done it without him.

[Next Big Thing]

It brings Desmond's whole "See you in another life brother" exchange with Jack full circle as well. I kinda want to re- watch the earlier seasons just to see if I can pick up on the foreshadowing and build with the characters.

[Blitz]

Wow amazing. Dunno how anyone who called themself a Lost fan couldn't love this ep. So many great moments. Hurley's barely-concealed glee at seeing Charlie again. Sun and Jin getting enlightened. Locke's line to Jack after becoming enlightened. Locke and Ben outside the church. The reunion in the church. The final scene. Lord, the final scene. Damn near teared up so many times.

The enlightenment "montages" were a fantastic way to take us back through the series. Brilliant.

[Requiem]

You're exactly right. But there was definitely a point during this season and particularly the last episode that made me think they were leaving the door open.

As far as the writers... I also remember them saying that the island wasn't hell or purgatory, but it sort of seemed that way to me. LOL! And if it came down to them letting some hack bastardize the show and make a shitty movie or them stepping in reluctantly to do it, I think they'd jump in.

Just had to pull this from up above cause I just read it..

Just to be clear, you're not assuming the island was purgatory/hell, right? Because it wasn't. Everything on the island was real. It happened. The alt-reality they showed however, was sort of a purgatory of sorts.

[RoXer]

Hurley: 'I'm just glad its not me'

Come on mate, it was never going to be lol

;)

[Reavant]

Amazing... that is all

[Lara Emily]

That was a mind blowing 2.5 hours finale. I was satisfied on every level. I was so happy to see Shannon back, I loved her.

Great great great ending. I cried a ton through out the episode.

BTW reason why Michael wasn't there is explained earlier in the season his soul is forever trapped on the Island, he can never move on, ever. That's way you don't even get a glimpse of him in the Flash Sideways verse.

[XL]

Incredible.

I might have been one of the people expressing frustration with earlier episodes in this season, but in terms of the character stories ending I couldn't be much happier. I got goose-pimples/chills on a number of occasions - especially with the enlightenment scenes - and welled up on one or two occasions.

For people questioning if the plane got off the island...it did.

Christian tells Jack that "some of them died before you, some long after". Kate tells Jack she missed him. This is because Jack died on the island, Kate left on the plane to live a full life in the real world. If she died at 80 she wouldn't have seen Jack for a good 50ish years. That's why she missed him.

Was Hurley wearing a Jacob-esque shirt during that church scene?

[Hanso Amore]

So why isnt Libby trapped?

[Hanso Amore]

I notice Hurley was much more confident a person in the afterlife, probably due to hi many years ruling the island with Ben.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

So why isnt Libby trapped?

Why would she be?

[Jeritron]

I don't understand people saying there wasn't much of a ending for the island reality.
We got to see them go into the heart of it, which was an awesome location. We saw the final fight between Jack and The Smoke Monster, and the event of the Island being destroyed once and for all (until Jack saved it).
We also saw a new Jacob crowned, and everyone trapped there set free.

I don't know what more people could have wanted from the Island. We got so much from season to season, and I think they really saved the most epic, conclusive stuff for last.

[FearedSanctity]

Some people just had unrealistic high expectations of having EVERY question answered, which will not happen on pretty much any show ever, let alone Lost. People wanted every possible question answered, even the most obscure ones. There's no time for that. The show has always been about the characters, with the island secondary.

A lot of questions that went unanswered were because they came from other questions. With some questions that did get answered a lot of the hardcore Lost theorists refused to believe or thought there had to be more to. At that point it's just getting ridiculous.

I can honestly say now that I know pretty much all there is to know about the survivors. The Island? Not so much, but isn't that the point?

[Jeritron]

Actually this season really delivered huge on the island and the mythology. If you think about it, Jacob and MIB were only introduced officially in the Season 5 finale.
We had heard about Jacob before that, and we had seen MIB but we didn't know when and why it was him.

This season we found out massive things, like what the smoke monster is, and that he was a conscious character all along. I think that has a huge positive impact on the show. He's among the greatest villains ever.
The Lighthouse, and the cave, and all the locations involving Jacob and the Candidates were amazing.
There was a Black Rock and Richard backstory.
We learned the reason why the survivors were on the island all along, and that the island is both a way of protecting the world from evil, and a hiding place of a mystical lifeforce in the world.
I'm not sure why some people still say "what is The Island?" You put it well FearedSanctity. We don't know much more than that, but isn't that the point of metaphysical/supernatural things? It's so much better being given a good explanation of what it's all about, and why it matters, but not much more than that.

That stuff is all awesome. I think some of the fans who complain for more answers probably don't realize how far the show has come from week to week. Just last season they were still answering questions about the Dharma Initiative and The Others.

[wwe2222]

I agree with Jeritron. ALot of complaints have been the show abandoned the mythology of the show during the season and especially in the finale.

I dont know how you can say that is true when you have Desmond and Jack descending into this cave with a glowing pond, skeletons of those who tried this previously, and a literal cork in the heart of the Island.

I know we didnt get a history of who built the temples/statues, etc, but I think you can theorize yourself enough on it.

I also love that the Island is just going to keep on being the Island, and that future visitors will see the remnants of 815 and wonder what happened to those people and who were they.

[Jeritron]

A lot of questions that went unanswered were because they came from other questions. With some questions that did get answered a lot of the hardcore Lost theorists refused to believe or thought there had to be more to. At that point it's just getting ridiculous.

Yea, I also noticed that. When answers would come, there'd be 50 more questions about it.
I think a big part of that is because a lot of the mysteries extended for multiple seasons, so the eventual answers were hyped to mythic status in minds. When the answer would come, they'd expect some monumental long winded explanation, but a lot of times all it required was an abrupt answer. Some of them hit you right over the head, but that's really all an answer is. All of the things that went into the mystery are the explanation.

Like The Smoke Monster. It perplexed people for years, and then we met this awesome character named MIB. After a few episodes, he says "sorry you had to see me like that." BOOM. It's revealed he's The Smoke Monster, but everyone expects more explanation like that and starts to theorize that it means something else.

I think the same thing happened a couple weeks ago when we saw MIB transformed into the Smoke Monster and there were a wealth of theories about it being someone else set free, and so on.

This theorizing is part what makes the show really fun, and interesting. But I also think it has to do with the unreal expectations and over-analyzing that is bred.
I think a lot of fans got really hung up on that aspect, and lost sight of what was really going on. Theorizing is awesome, but at some point it turns into a general interest in science and prediction/answers, and has nothing to do with the story. That's fine, because who am I to say what they should enjoy, but I'd argue they might not really 'get it.' That sucks too because they obviously missed the point, which was incredibly rewarding in the end.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Yeah I'm havin a discussion now with a mate of mine who didn't like the ending and feels it made the entire series pointless. His arguments are ridiculous though.

I'm finding it hard to not simply tell him he's an idiot and doesn't understand it all, but that could be pretty ignorant on my part. I've just told him that I feel sorry for him that he couldn't enjoy it because I loved it and it made the show all the better for me.

[Jeritron]

I agree with Jeritron. ALot of complaints have been the show abandoned the mythology of the show during the season and especially in the finale.

I dont know how you can say that is true when you have Desmond and Jack descending into this cave with a glowing pond, skeletons of those who tried this previously, and a literal cork in the heart of the Island.

I know we didnt get a history of who built the temples/statues, etc, but I think you can theorize yourself enough on it.

I also love that the Island is just going to keep on being the Island, and that future visitors will see the remnants of 815 and wonder what happened to those people and who were they.


Yea. I loved that stuff. In addition to the stuff I already listed above, We also got The Lighthouse, the rock cave with the chalk names, the skeletons, the donkey wheel explanation. The storm that destroyed the statue.
We learned there was a society there before The Temple people. We learned about Mother.
Probably a ton of stuff I'm also missing right now.

There was a ton of mythology this season. More than any other, I'd argue. Especially the heart of the island location, with the cork in the ground and the skeletons on the floor. I'd argue that could be the single coolest peice of mythology on it's own. Other things were built upon, but seriously on it's own that is so awesome. It's pretty much as far as you can go for showing new, interesting things on the Island. It's the literal core of everything. And tampering with it makes the Island start falling apart and sinking into the ocean forever. That's about as final as you can get.

Season 5 had a lot too, but that was because they knew they were getting towards the end and it was designed to give a lot of backstory through time travel.

[FearedSanctity]

Something I overlooked when watching but Lostpedia brought to my attention, the relation to Juliet's "It worked" at the beginning and end of the season

[wwe2222]

The writers are in a tough spot too...Take for instance the outrigger scene...They said when they introduced it last season, they absolutely knew who was on the other boat...

However, this season, with some of the characters having all ready been killed off, it became too hard to write it into the narrative and get the actors back so they chose to cut it.

They are in a lose lose situation: If they cut it, people complain. If they change it from what it was, then people complain they didnt know what they were doing with it, etc. etc.

[wwe2222]

Something I overlooked when watching but Lostpedia brought to my attention, the relation to Juliet's "It worked" at the beginning and end of the season

Yeah it was pretty cool writing I thought because everyone at the time assumed she meant the bomb.

I also completely forgot that Jack's appendectomy scar was actually where Locke stabbed him.

Also, I couldnt figure out why they called Desmond's episode "Happily Ever After"...but I get it now

[FearedSanctity]

I'm just glad they stuck with a meaningful ending rather than a forced one that tried to cram answers

[wwe2222]

I'm just glad they stuck with a meaningful ending rather than a forced one that tried to cram answers

me too. The more I think about it the more I liked it. Especially that last scene of Jack dying.

[Jeritron]

I could understand the people wanting more about the ancient temple dwellers, but there's plenty of information to be gathered about them. It's just scattered around.
It's also cool to have at least one chapter of island history that isn't fully explored.
They went back and showed everything about Dharma, and The Black Rock, and WWII, and even went B.C and showed the life of Jacob and MIB.
There's really not much more to learn about the temple people. I like it being kept to clues and imagination. Ultimately it's not really important anyways. We just know they came along and worshipped the mysteries of the island, and MIB apparently fucked with them.

[Jeritron]

Yeah I'm havin a discussion now with a mate of mine who didn't like the ending and feels it made the entire series pointless. His arguments are ridiculous though.



I'm interested to hear why he says it was pointless. I'm guessing it has to do with the fact that everyone ends up in an afterlife anyways?

If it's that, it's just as easy to say that it would all be pointless if they didn't end up in an afterlife anyways.

Life is life, and death is death, regardless of what really happens afterwards. Everything that happens on the island and reality does matter. This is because the stakes of the future, and of the personal and emotional journeys is all real. Especially since the show is about destiny and fate. Jack's need to fix things and complete his purpose is very real. So is the need to protect the Island and stop MIB. And Jack wanting Kate to be safe and grow old, and succeed in getting Claire back to Aaron.
and everything that ever happened on the show.

People always die some day anyways. This goes for any story. Whether there's an afterlife or not doesn't really change what they did in real life.
The only difference is Lost showed it, for the purposes of emotional closure for the characters.
I think it's great that the writers addressed this in the finale. Desmond tried to tell Jack he shouldn't care anymore, and Jack explained how it all still mattered.
They did a lot to put across the importance of what was going on in the reality timeline, and what would continue to go on in the future.

If it's not that, I felt like talking about this anyways.

[Jeritron]

Also, we knew there was such thing as an afterlife in Lost anyways, since it's a heavily spiritual and supernatural show, and there are multiple characters who can commune with the dead.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I'm interested to hear why he says it was pointless. I'm guessing it has to do with the fact that everyone ends up in an afterlife anyways?


He began saying stuff like "How is it all possible though? If there can be smoke monsters, then why can't other stuff happen? Like why can't Sawyer fly for example, their science fiction makes some stuff possible and others not"

After that I told him he was utterly ridiculous and he stopped talking.

[wwe2222]

Also, we knew there was such thing as an afterlife in Lost anyways, since it's a heavily spiritual and supernatural show, and there are multiple characters who can commune with the dead.

Agree 100%.

[wwe2222]

He began saying stuff like "How is it all possible though? If there can be smoke monsters, then why can't other stuff happen? Like why can't Sawyer fly for example, their science fiction makes some stuff possible and others not"

After that I told him he was utterly ridiculous and he stopped talking.

Well that is just ridiculous. Every show, every story has to have its own borders and boundaries.

[Jeritron]

They set the rules pretty good too. It's not like Smokey and the Island just have their powers because they feel like it.
Characters like Hurley, Miles and Walt are clearly just gifted individuals. The rest is stuff happening on the island, not superpowered characters.

[FearedSanctity]

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5392/1274793779352.png

[Jeritron]

lol I remember thinking he was cutting it a bit close with that hiding spot. The angle could make the bush seem closer to Locke than it really is though

[FearedSanctity]

lol, true. But still, come on. Surely there must have been a better spot to have him hide

[RoXer]

What did the bomb do exactly? Is that the reason why the island is at the bottom of the ocean? Because it's "dead" in this afterlife? The bomb "killed" it?

Do I have that right?

[Jeritron]

I agree, it's awful. It's not like he couldn't see them from those thick woods further back.

[FearedSanctity]

What did the bomb do exactly? Is that the reason why the island is at the bottom of the ocean? Because it's "dead" in this afterlife? The bomb "killed" it?

Do I have that right?

Bomb knocked them back to 2007, but they still crashed on the Island. So what really brought the plane down?

[Jeritron]

What did the bomb do exactly? Is that the reason why it's at the bottom of the ocean? Because it's "dead" in this afterlife? The bomb "killed" it?

Do I have that right?

In the afterlife the island is a distant memory, and I guess that's why it's dead and not a factor. That's just a way of showing it.

The Bomb didn't have anything to do with anything in the afterlife though. The Bomb either never went off, or was neutralized by the electromagnetic pocket.
Whatever happened there was The Incident, and the Dharma initiative just sealed the area off and finished the hatch, and remembered it all as a bunch of crazy bastards causing mayhem.
Jack and Co. magically travelled back to 2007 right after. I don't know if The Incident caused that, or just The Island's will. Probably both.

[wwe2222]

Funny to think that they caused the need for the button, which in turned caused their plane to crash on the Island.

I also loved how everyone who came to the Island crashed their in one way or another. Jacob brought them there, and then they were forced to stay there.

[Jeritron]

what was the origin of the ship Jacob and MIB's real pregnant mother came on? That was also the same boat that the society MIB joined up with came on, I gathered.
It was around 2000 years ago, so was it Romans or something?

I know they spoke English, but that was obviously to prevent having the entire episode subtitled.

[wwe2222]

what was the origin of the ship Jacob and MIB's real pregnant mother came on? That was also the same boat that the society MIB joined up with came on, I gathered.
It was around 2000 years ago, so was it Romans or something?

I know they spoke English, but that was obviously to prevent having the entire episode subtitled.

No idea the date...Lostpedia lists it as Classical Roman Times, but not entirely sure.

They seem to pre date the Egyptians coming to the Island, but the cork in the Island seemed to have some hieroglypics on it, so im not entirely sure.

There were some people who thought the Mother time traveled because she could speak English in that episode, ha.

[RoXer]

They were speaking Latin at first and there was an out place music cue and tthey were speaking english. I think it was an out of place piano note or something.

I took that as the director's way of saying "we're not subtitling this whole damn thing, so they'll speak english but they are really speaking latin".

[wwe2222]

They were speaking Latin at first and there was an out place music cue and tthey were speaking english. I think it was an out of place piano note or something.

I took that as the director's way of saying "we're not subtitling this whole damn thing, so they'll speak english but they are really speaking latin".

thats exactly what it was, but apparently some people missed that

[Jeritron]

Yea, that's a good move by them. You can't really expect the actors to learn new dialects over night and act well in them.

Interesting that the ancient people could be Egyptians on the Island.

I wonder where the cork chamber came from, if it was there before Jacob and MIB even arrived.
Maybe Mother's people? Assuming of course that it's man made. I know it looks definitely man made, but maybe it's just there. Or maybe there was something more natural keeping the light on, and it got fucked with and that scary crack in the ground had to be plugged, and that room was built to fix it.
Sort of like a prehistoric Swan site. Only with The Source, which is more important.

I wouldn't be suprised if that room, and Mother date back to an original, indigenous people.

[Jeritron]

See, there's still plenty of cool mythology things, even up through the last episode.
Personally, I'm happy that it's something to still talk about, because it's really not important to answer.

[Jeritron]

I also bet they'll give some interesting clues about the cork chamber on the DVD. They've said there will be a 30 +/- minute documentary on the set that "answers" some minor mythology things.

[wwe2222]

See, there's still plenty of cool mythology things, even up through the last episode.
Personally, I'm happy that it's something to still talk about, because it's really not important to answer.

I think its great to be left open and talk about. Like discovering the pyramids or the Sphinx and wondering what their purpose was, who built them, how did they build them, etc.

[Jeritron]

The inside of The Temple and the Healing Spring were other awesome things introduced this season.

[Jeritron]

I like the idea of the stuff built in the Heart of the Island being sort of a man-made correction, a la The Swan site.
I think it's clear that The Heart of the Island is and always was the most important site, and the source of the island. At some point, though, someone probably put that cork there. Maybe there was a natural cork there first.

[wwe2222]

I was reading the thread over at aintitcoolnews....

Some people saying Walt was the focus of season 2 and couldnt believe he was never resolved. Walt was in like 3 episodes of season 2.

I cant believe some people actually made it through 6 years of this show, and then reacted like they did.

[wwe2222]

I like the idea of the stuff built in the Heart of the Island being sort of a man-made correction, a la The Swan site.
I think it's clear that The Heart of the Island is and always was the most important site, and the source of the island. At some point, though, someone probably put that cork there. Maybe there was a natural cork there first.

The show has done a great job of taking something like the Hatch, and using it as a greater example of another idea in the show.

For instance, Desmond was the fail safe for the Island just as he had turned the fail safe for the Hatch.

I always thought the groups of people killed on the Island over its history was sort of like pushing the button to reset things in the Hatch.

Stuff like that

[Jeritron]

I honestly think the importance of Walt is being overblown, by far. Yes, there was definitely something to him, and they may have abandoned it, but it was never even close to the focus of the show, or anything major.
He had strange abilities, but so do Hurley and Miles. I really think it's as simple as that.
He was special, but Ben let him go because he needed Jack, so he could save his own ass from cancer.
It's really as simple as that.

Actually, that's probably what that guy was getting at, but he's missing the point. Walt was being held hostage by The Others so they could rescue Ben, and so Ben could get Jack's services. That doesn't mean the season was about Walt though, or even that he was important. He was being used as a tool by Ben because he was a child and he could manipulate Michael.

[thedamndest]

It really seems like some people have been so eager to be let down by this. They would really prefer a National Geographic episode of how everything on the island works as opposed to the story of Lost.

[Jeritron]

So true. Speaking of that, there's actually a great Unsolved Mysteries type mockumentary about the Dharma Initiative, from the real world's blurred perspective as if it were real, on the Season 5 DVD set.

There's also an Oceanic 6 conspiracy mockumentary, that exposes the shady facts about the group from the mainland's perspective. That's on the season 4 dvd set.

[XL]

That Oceanic 6 mockumentary is brilliant.

I have to wonder how a lot of the moaners have watched the show. For example, I have watched since day 1...well, since it debuted on Channel 4 over here in the UK. I've then gone out of my way to watch every episode as soon as possible through downloads or streaming sites. I also have seasons 1 -5 on DVD and watched them all through again ahead of season 6. In the end I was happy with the finale.

Now, my friend, who got into the show on my insistence, watched all of the DVDs back-to-back in a span of less than 6 months. He didn't like the ending.

Was he spoiled in watching on DVD? Did he not get the same level of commitment to the show/connection with the characters as those who have watched for the last 6 years?

[Jeritron]

I watched seasons 1-4 on DVD, and all of season 5 online in a short time period last summer.
I watched Season 6 in it's original airings this season.
I got into the show on a big level, and enjoyed the finale immensely.

So I don't think it's a matter of when or in what format the show was viewed. Some probably didn't gain the same level of connection the characters and material, but that's probably more a personal thing than when they watched the episodes.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

That Oceanic 6 mockumentary is brilliant.

I have to wonder how a lot of the moaners have watched the show. For example, I have watched since day 1...well, since it debuted on Channel 4 over here in the UK. I've then gone out of my way to watch every episode as soon as possible through downloads or streaming sites. I also have seasons 1 -5 on DVD and watched them all through again ahead of season 6. In the end I was happy with the finale.

Now, my friend, who got into the show on my insistence, watched all of the DVDs back-to-back in a span of less than 6 months. He didn't like the ending.

Was he spoiled in watching on DVD? Did he not get the same level of commitment to the show/connection with the characters as those who have watched for the last 6 years?

I don't think the method of watching the show really matters, or how long ago you got into it.

I'm like you and have watched it from day one on Channel 4 and have each series on DVD, and I have gotten many of my friends into it at various different times, some of them loved the finale, some of them didn't.

Also, I may be wrong but Jeritron didn't you only begin watching Lost at a later point yet loved the finale? EDIT: you got in there before me

[Jeritron]

I actually watched seasons 1 and 2 in the summer of 2008, but got sidetracked with work and school and stopped. Once I got out of the flow, it took a while before I sat down and watched seasons 3-5, but I got incredibly into it at that point.

[Jeritron]

I also watched the entire show, seasons 1-5 through a second time when I was on medical hiatus in the fall. I watched the pilot again last night, and I think I'm going to watch through again over the course of the summer, because I think it will be pretty awesome now that the show is over.
I think it's safe to say I'm obsessed.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I'm beginning to think I want to build up my Lost merchandise a bit more. I really want some deviantart style pictures on canvas on my wall

[Jeritron]

I have a few things I got as gifts from my brother (who I converted to a fan) this past christmas.
I have a Ben Linus bobblehead, a mini poster, and a framed Oceanic Flight 815 Boarding Pass for James "Sawyer" Ford.

[Jeritron]

You can get them for any character who was on 815, I think.
I kinda wish it was Jack or Locke now, but it's still awesome regardless. Sawyer's one of my favorite characters too.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I've got a bunch of the action figures, a DHARMA mug (one of which I was happy to see Rose drinking out of in the finale), couple of posters, the board game, the Via Domus video game, the DVDs, the Bad Twin book and my favourite of all...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs241.ash1/16847_181579650616_507365616_2930886_3550647_n.jpg

[Jeritron]

I want to play the video game. I never have. I've heard it's not a great game by conventional standards, but fun if you're a lost fan.
I'm gonna try to pick it up soon.

[Jeritron]

Where the hell is Jon Kano? I hope it's that The Island isn't done with him, rather than him being done with The Island.

[RoXer]

Yeah, pretty easy too. Some of the fake voiceover's are good, some of them are ass terrible.

[Jeritron]

Now that Lost is over, I think there may be oppurtunity there to produce something like a Lost video game that has more official involvement, and higher quality.
Not much of the Lost cast is out of the realm of possibility of doing videogame voice work.

I don't know what they'd do though. Hopefully not a continuation of any kind, but an inner-quel, if that's even a term.

[Jeritron]

In the afterlife the island is a distant memory, and I guess that's why it's dead and not a factor. That's just a way of showing it.

The Bomb didn't have anything to do with anything in the afterlife though. The Bomb either never went off, or was neutralized by the electromagnetic pocket.
Whatever happened there was The Incident, and the Dharma initiative just sealed the area off and finished the hatch, and remembered it all as a bunch of crazy bastards causing mayhem.
Jack and Co. magically travelled back to 2007 right after. I don't know if The Incident caused that, or just The Island's will. Probably both.

Also, Richard says he "watched them die" regarding Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Sayid, Jin, Juliet, Hurley and Miles in 1977.
He was definitely referring to The Incident. Him and Eloise Hawking helped them find the bomb to use, but then split up from them because Eloise was pregnant.
She is the one who insisted on going with them, but Richard knocked her out to protect her. He said he was going to bring her out of that cave through the main entrance, instead of going through Dharmaville with them.
It's highly likely that when she woke up, she wanted to go see what was going on and her and Richard went to watch The Incident from a safe place.

Richard obviously thought this meant they were dead, since they were gone afterwards.
When they came along in 2004, he knew that was the versions of them that would go to 1977, but thought they would die there since that's what he saw, and didn't know they would be coming back to 2007 soon after.

Pretty awesome stuff. Time travel is great, but tough to pull off. I think they did a damn good job in Season 5.

[Requiem]

About the bomb - If Jacob protected them from killing themselves, perhaps that could be what happened with the bomb? SOMETHING happened to protect them.

[Jeritron]

It's interesting to ponder where Mother's lineage started. Was she the first protector? Or were there protectors before her?
This is likely where the traces of human presence in The Heart of The Island come from. Same lineage. Probably extremely ancient, like Neolithic/Stonehenge era stuff. They probably put those things there the same time the "divine" order of The Island that Mother and Jacob carry on started.

The skeletons are probably people that tried to get in, or people who died when that whole deal started.

At some point a protector and that lineage had to originate. Since they have had godly powers, it's better not shown, but it has to be some kind of religious type thing. Like some physical representation of The Island, as if it were god or something. At some point it had to communicate and bestow power. Pretty much like Biblical stuff, just it's own theology. That's really why it's all better left to the imagination. There's no way to effectively touch on that material, other than just chalking The Island up as God-like, and Mother/Jacob's lineage as saint like, or whatever. Glad it's open, but still interesting.

[wwe2222]

Cool writeup from someone who worked on the show...

http://lostmediamentions.blogspot.com/2010/05/someone-from-bad-robots-take-on-finale.html

[thedamndest]

It's probably 2001ish where the first person to come across the island felt a "calling" towards the light and when he went down there he became Jacob 0. Maybe that was Mother. Maybe that was Mother's mother.

[Jeritron]

Yea but there's also what seems to be pretty primative manmade architecture down there. Maybe the first people there felt that calling, and some of them died constructing some things around the light.
The light definitely had to be there originally. Maybe they just built around it and put a cork in the ground to fix a problem.

Or maybe it was just there miraculously. I don't think it's advanced enough that someone had to build it, but the cork just looks rounded off and carved.

[Reavant]

I cant get over how powerful the last 10-20 mins of the show were... wow

[Jon Kano]

;)

I will admit I was surprised when he 'got the call', but my remark was more to do at the time of such danger and epicness, that it was only Jack who was the real choice at the time.

[Lock Jaw]

Like I said, I think The Island and its light were around long before Mother and long after Hurley.

The show is just looking at a specific point in Island history, and reveals to us only the points that were relevant to the story of the main characters.

[Jeritron]

I wonder when and why Hurley and Linus stopped running the island and died.

[Jon Kano]

I'm writing my final thoughts on the episode and series as a whole, its not done yet and I'm tired.

Why the fuck did someone make a fucking separate thread for the finale? I know there is nothing really wrong with it but this whole thread was for and about LOST, kinda wanted it to end with it and it all be in one together, oh well.

Will post my thoughts tomorrow.

[Jeritron]

The finale is a pretty big event. I don't think it's so crazy for it to have it's own thread.
I've been planning on merging it with this one soon anyways. I was just giving it a day or two.

[Jon Kano]

OK cool I think it's a good idea since I wanted to request this thread for archiving. It's a good example of what fandom and community can accomplish here.

But yeah, in short before I finish my review - I was blown away, cried three times, a bit miffed with the final scene and meaning but overall loved and thought it was a fucking great finale.

[wwe2222]

I wonder when and why Hurley and Linus stopped running the island and died.

Im going to assume Hurley didnt make Ben ageless like Richard so he probably died of old age. Hurley probably eventually just felt like it was time to stepdown.

They werent paired alot during the series, but throughout the run of Lost Ben and Hurley did have some nice moments together.

[Jeritron]

Their scene together in the afterlife rules out any attempts by Ben to overthrow him, or kill him. Which is nice considering that's something the old Ben would have probably tried to do (and did do to Jacob).
They look back on their tenure with warm feelilngs it seems, at least of eachother. In a way, serving The Island and Hurley that way was probably healing for Linus, who had a checkered past and did some horrible things.
It's perfect that he stayed and did good for The Island, since it was all he had.

[Reavant]

i like how ben stayed back presumably to be with alex

[Jeritron]

He stayed back to "work some things out." That could include being with Alex and Rosseau, but it generally means that even though he was welcome inside the church (heaven), he decided to think about what he'd done in life and wait outside the gates for a while.
That ending for Ben is perfect to me, since he clearly did some evil things, but ultimately wasn't an evil person. He did some redeeming things towards the end of the series, and presumably gave a life of pure service to Hurley and The Island afterwards.

[wwe2222]

Im not sure there are any characters or character arcs in this story I was disappointed in.

[Jeritron]

In the afterlife timeline, most of the characters appeared to be better people than they were in life.
Kate was an innocent fugitive, Linus was a teacher, Sawyer was a cop, etc.
I think this was to show who they were. They were essentially still the same, but without the negative things of the world that shaped them into the complicated, morally ambiguous characters that they were in life. It was almost like showing who they were in their hearts without being "lost."
This goes for everyone. The events of their purgatory/alt universe lives represented a world where things were better for them, but was essentially working out the problems of their other life.
That's why I think Sun and Jin were unmarried (all their early marriage problems), and Jack had a son (father issues), and Locke was in a wheelchair learning to let go of punishing himself for what he did to his father (rather than be punished in a wheelchair for what his father did to him).
Even Desmond was spending some time, with Widmore as a father figure, before he was enlightened.
Faraday was a musician, which was what he wanted to be before his mother forced him into physics.
The list goes on really.

Very cleverly crafted.

[wwe2222]

I know some people didnt like the Sayid-Shannon connection, but to me Nadia represented too much of who Sayid was and what he had done in his past. Shannon was his clean slate, his new beginning.

In his FS, even though he loved Nadia, he wasnt with her because he knew he shouldnt be.

[Jeritron]

I agree with that. I think Nadia was something he was chasing within himself. He'd known her his entire life, since they were children. I think that's what he was chasing. His innocence before he entered a life of being a killer and hating himself for it.
I think in the alternate universe he learned to let go of Nadia. Even there, it wasn't meant to be.

I think it was written that way for a reason. It's not like they couldn't have put him with Nadia. Desmond was with Penny, and Penny wasn't part of the crew really.
Boone was there alone, so it's not like Shannon needed to be with Sayid to be there. Just because they had a romantic past didn't mean she had to be with him, because other characters had meaningless flings.
I think it was to prove Shannon and Sayid had love, but Sayid and Nadia was a part of Sayid's character that he needed to let go.
He also joined MIB under the prospect of seeing Nadia, and ultimately couldn't bring himself to kill Desmond, and broke that pact. Getting over Nadia was a big part of his character this season.

[wwe2222]

I agree with that. I think Nadia was something he was chasing within himself. He'd known her his entire life, since they were children. I think that's what he was chasing. His innocence before he entered a life of being a killer and hating himself for it.
I think in the alternate universe he learned to let go of Nadia. Even there, it wasn't meant to be.

I think it was written that way for a reason. It's not like they couldn't have put him with Nadia. Desmond was with Penny, and Penny wasn't part of the crew really.
Boone was there alone, so it's not like Shannon needed to be with Sayid to be there. Just because they had a romantic past didn't mean she had to be with him, because other characters had meaningless flings.
I think it was to prove Shannon and Sayid had love, but Sayid and Nadia was a part of Sayid's character that he needed to let go.
He also joined MIB under the prospect of seeing Nadia, and ultimately couldn't bring himself to kill Desmond, and broke that pact. Getting over Nadia was a big part of his character this season.

Well put. It wasnt just a random lets put these two together as many are trying to make it out to be. I think there was some definite thought to his FS and really everybody's FS.

[Jeritron]

I'd rather spend eternity with Shannon too

[Jeritron]

I'm going to merge this thread with the main Lost thread later tonight, just to keep things together.
Nothing should change, other than this stuff just being tacked onto the end of the other thread in chronological order.

Just figured I'd put the word out ahead of time so nobody is wondering where the thread went.

[wwe2222]

I'd rather spend eternity with Shannon too

ha, good point

[Jeritron]

Although she was a roaring bitch in the first season. Kinda turned me on though

[Loose Cannon]

I've been on vacation, so I just had a chance to read this thread. I loved the finale. I thought the ending was phenomenal. My heart was literally racing through that whole scene with Christian and Jack. It was incredible. It was everything I could of hoped for with an ending to this show. I shed tears a couple times during the 2 and a half hours.

Also, whomever had Vincent lay down next to Jack as he was dying should be given an Academy Award (or whatever the TV one is) just for getting that in. I love dogs, so watching that scene was pretty emotional for me.

I will admit the ending confused me. Reading the posts in here clarified a lot for me. At first I thought everyone died when the plane crashed and the whole series was just the island giving everyone a 2nd chance to correct some things or to finish unfinished business. The reason I thought this was because they showed the plane crash during the credits, but without any human soul there. So I was like, "wtf, did everyone die right there?"

So was the afterlife just Jack's afterlife? I really have to watch the episode over. Jimmy Kimmel showed that scene in the first episode of the season when Rose told Jack "It's ok to let go now." And he said that's where Jack passed on. Makes sense I guess

Anyway, looking back, I don't think there will ever another show that will capture my heart quite like this one. It just had so much depth to it and really made you think. From the character stories to the mysteries of the island to the action and adventure. It was a hell of a journey

I knew this show was going to be something special six or seven years ago when I watched the pilot and it has lived up to all my expectations.

[Blitz]

Ugh so many disgustingly great little moments in the ep.

-Ben's perfectly Ben-ish sound when Sawyer elbowed him in the face and took his gun
-Locke and Jack staring down the waterfall as a callback to the hatch
-Sawyer's line "That's a helluva long con, doc".
-"Bass player. Wake me up for show"
-"Thank you" "It's just a blanket."
-"I'm fine. Find me some thread and I can count to 5"
-The smile on Jin's face upon meeting Detective Ford, LAPD, followed by his sly "Hello....Detective"
-Sawyer's slight nod to Jack on their final island goodbye
-Jack's lack of an answer to Kate's "Tell me I'm going to see you again"
-"I'll see you in another life, brother"
-Locke's inflection on the line "Well if it helps, I forgive you". Just absolutely perfect.
-The joy in Ben's voice upon greeting Hurley outside the church
-Jack waking up the same place MIB did after being expelled from the cave
-The multiple faiths featured in the stained glass church window
-"Then how are you here right now?" Deep sigh "How are YOU here right now?"
-The meeting of Boone and Jack in the church
-The shot of Jack's shoe, still hanging where it was in the pilot

Incredible. Wanna go back and watch the whole series again.

[Jeritron]

http://i50.tinypic.com/4lt7pv.jpg

[Johnny McNasty]

That gif should be posted every two or three pages to pay tribute to its epicness.

[Jeritron]

"You insult his memory by wearing his face, but you're not him."

[Requiem]

Yeah, when MIB started going on about 'back in the day', and Jack just stopped and pretty much told him to shove it, I was like "Yesssss"

[Jeritron]

Terry O'Quinn meant volumes to this show. He played not only one, but two incredible characters.
The other guy who played MIB in his true form was great too, but Terry O'Quinn was huge in making MIB one of the greatest villains ever.

[Requiem]

Yeah, just the fact that he played two very different (in my opinion) characters so well in the show, is enough for me to give him the nod as one of the most impressive performances of the show. He made us love him as John Locke, rooting for him to be right the whole time, and then made us loathe him as it became clear what an evil person the MIB was.

[RoXer]

my remark was more to do at the time of such danger and epicness, that it was only Jack who was the real choice at the time.

I understand and agree with you.

But I still wanted to point that out ;)

[Jeritron]

Im going to assume Hurley didnt make Ben ageless like Richard so he probably died of old age. Hurley probably eventually just felt like it was time to stepdown.

They werent paired alot during the series, but throughout the run of Lost Ben and Hurley did have some nice moments together.

Just think of the wealth of pop culture references Hurley must have up his sleeve after a lenghty tenure as the island protector.
We know Jacob could travel to the mainland on business.

[wwe2222]

Just think of the wealth of pop culture references Hurley must have up his sleeve after a lenghty tenure as the island protector.
We know Jacob could travel to the mainland on business.

I cant imagine the Island not being ultimately more fun with Hurley in charge

[Jeritron]

I think without Smokey there, he would have freedom to be a bit more casual about it. Smokey was also the reason Jacob kept the island continually populated with potential candidates, so that when MIB found a loophole there would be someone who could take his place.
That's where most of the conflict came from. The different people on the island and MIB's antics.
I'd imagine Hurley's version of the island would probably involve keeping The Light and Island hidden, and a lot of people who aren't so salty.

[Loose Cannon]

I see a bonus DVD included in the future boxset.

Lost: The Hurley chronicles

[Loose Cannon]

I do have a question. When all the characters had thier little flashback moments in the finale, was that basicaly symbolizing them coming to terms with thier lives and letting go? And so they were ready to move on? And I am assuming that since purgatory really has no "time," it's not like they all let go within 2 hours of each other, right?

[PapaGeorgio]

To all those who say the show was always about the characters, and that is why the finale was all about the characters. The Island was just as much of a character as the rest, and it got shafted. All I'm saying.

[Jeritron]

How did The Island get shafted? Half of the finale was dedicated to the conflict of the Island, and that conflict including stopping it from sinking to the bottom of the ocean and stopping The Smoke Monster from getting away.
There was tons of Island stuff. They went to the center of the goddamn thing and saved it.
And it got appointed a guardian that ensured a peaceful and continued existence for it.

[Jeritron]

Cool writeup from someone who worked on the show...

http://lostmediamentions.blogspot.com/2010/05/someone-from-bad-robots-take-on-finale.html

A lot of what this guy says about the story and such, I agree with, but as far as the stuff he claims to be in-the-know about by being an employee, he's bullshitting.
I read a USA Today article a week ago in which Lindelof and Cuse talk about how they (those 2) decided upon the final scene early in the second season.
This guy claims it was written at the same time as the pilot and was "JJ's ending."

I'll take the word of the show's creators and USA Today on that. Especially considering they'd be inclined to claim they came up with it earlier than season 2 if they were bullshitting.
This guy is probably just a knowledgeable fan who wants to convince other fans of things.

It's also pretty much common knowledge that the pilot and the first few episodes were approached with the general idea of the show, and key elements of mythology introduced, but for the most part they were still working out where they were going, and they were buying time by laying some basic groundwork before getting into that stuff.
It's been known all over the place since early on.

[wwe2222]

Just thinking of some other answers we got from the show...

In Flashes Before Your Eyes, Eloise tells Desmond going to the Island and pushing the button will be the most important thing he ever does...Some questioned why she would say that when it leads to Daniel dying, but...

The answer is two fold...
1) Its his forgetting to push the button that brings the plane there, and ultimately Jack who saves the Island...

2) It allowed him to experience the electromagnetism for the first time, preparing him for removing the cork from the Island, helping Jack with number 1.

[Hanso Amore]

I do have a question. When all the characters had thier little flashback moments in the finale, was that basicaly symbolizing them coming to terms with thier lives and letting go? And so they were ready to move on? And I am assuming that since purgatory really has no "time," it's not like they all let go within 2 hours of each other, right?

They all wouldn't be ready to move on without each other, so I imagine this purgatory went on at once, like he said with no concept of time. They just needed someone to help them come together

[Jeritron]

Just thinking of some other answers we got from the show...

In Flashes Before Your Eyes, Eloise tells Desmond going to the Island and pushing the button will be the most important thing he ever does...Some questioned why she would say that when it leads to Daniel dying, but...

The answer is two fold...
1) Its his forgetting to push the button that brings the plane there, and ultimately Jack who saves the Island...

2) It allowed him to experience the electromagnetism for the first time, preparing him for removing the cork from the Island, helping Jack with number 1.


I also don't think Eloise was trying to stop Daniel from dying in any way. In fact, she was trying to ensure it happened.
She knew she killed her own son in 1977. That's why she pushed him into a life of science, instead of his love for music. She knew what he had to do, and forced it to ensure the time loop completed.
That's sort of what makes her character interesting to me. She has to sacrifice her own son in order to keep things rounded.

[Hanso Amore]

WHich is why in the afterlife she doesnt want Daniel to go...she finally had him back.

[Loose Cannon]

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100526191746/lostpedia/images/a/a8/Goodbyejack.jpg

[Hanso Amore]

My yellow Lab looks exactly the same

[Corporate CockSnogger]

So apparently on the bonus features with the season 6 boxset there's going to be an Epilogue of Hurley and Bens time on the Island together following the events of the finale.

http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2010/05/season-6-dvd-will-have-epilogue-of-ben.html

Not really too sure what to think of this, I was more than happy to leave that stuff untouched, but at the same time I guess it will be interesting.

[wwe2222]

So apparently on the bonus features with the season 6 boxset there's going to be an Epilogue of Hurley and Bens time on the Island together following the events of the finale.

http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2010/05/season-6-dvd-will-have-epilogue-of-ben.html

Not really too sure what to think of this, I was more than happy to leave that stuff untouched, but at the same time I guess it will be interesting.

Well now those are answers no one was asking for, haha

[Jeritron]

Is that in addition to that "unanswered questions" documentary they're planning?

That should be cool. I'm not really demanding answers, but it will be cool to hear the writers talk about a few things that they didn't have time to write into the show, or even reveal some stuff that they decided against using/showing (like the outrigger, walt, maybe the Egyptians)
I love just listening to Lindelof and Cuse talk about the show

[Loose Cannon]

wow, I was just joking about the bonus DVD with Hurley. awesome

[Loose Cannon]

I'm going to get the entire series box set though, so hopefully they can include that in there. If there is a series set

[Loose Cannon]

hmmm, this site says it will be in the series box set and not just season 6

http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Lost-Complete-Series-DVD-To-Offer-Ben-Hurley-Epilogue-24831.html

[Jeritron]

I'm sure everything on the season 6 set will be in the entire series set. If anything, it will probably have more stuff.

I'd really like the entire series boxset, but I'm not sure if it's worth it for me. I have seasons 1-5 on dvd already. I'll buy season 6 when it comes out, so I'll essentially just have it already.
I'm a sucker for Lost though, and I would kind of like to get it in blu ray eventually.
I'll probably get it in blu ray somewhere down the line, but since I already have the seasons I won't be in a rush.
Hopefully somebody buys me it for christmas or something

[Jeritron]

Just read that the epilogue is going to be around 15 minutes and will be on the complete series set.
So I guess those of us who bought the seasons individually are fucked? I hope it's on the Season 6 set too.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

The link I posted a few posts up claims it's going to be on both.

[Jeritron]

15 minutes is quite a long time. I wonder if it's going to be just about Hurley and Linus, or if it's going to show any other stuff.
Personally, I'd kind of prefer if they didn't show anything else involving the characters who got home on the Ajira plane.
Jack watching them fly overhead was perfect.

[Jeritron]

Showing what happens to characters like Richard and Miles wouldn't really matter to me. That would be cool. None of it's really a big deal, but I'd kind of rather not know what happens to Kate and Sawyer. Especially Kate, just because of her ending with Jack and the last shot of the plane getting away.

[Lock Jaw]

Lost Epilogue:

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[Jeritron]

I think the fact that I don't even really want an epilogue just shows how satisfying that ending was to me.
Hurley and Linus stuff will be pretty awesome though. I'd rather see a 5 or so minute Missing Pieces on the Egyptians or something, rather than anything involving Kate or Sawyer.
It would be funny to see Richard trying to adapt to a normal life in 2007. He'd probably need Miles help just as much as Hurley needs Ben's