NFL 2011 Season Thread

[RP]

Heard a rumor that the Colts won a football game and that Donald Brown looked like Marcus Allen. Lol shenanigans!

[screech]

gonna be laughing right back at all the Steelers fans who were laughing today at the Ravens choking last night.

You can't, really. We got embarrassed by the Chargers. No reason we should have lost that game. Though it does continue the pattern of losing to awful teams while beating good ones.

[screech]

On another note: I'm in the Championship in my Fantasy league :D

[Reavant]

id be in the championship in the one im playing for money on if the 49ers scored touchdowns instead of field goals... i needed akers to score no more than five points and he decides to score 8

[Ermaximus]

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[FearedSanctity]

http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/ZOMG-TRANSFORMER.gif


http://i.imgur.com/YcXmo.gif

Damn, could even see the flash from the transformer blowing up from in the stadium

[Gonzo]

Aldon Smith is gross.

Yeah dude looks like a freak.

[FearedSanctity]

Broncos (@Buffalo) can lock up the West with a win and Oakland (@KC) loss.

Orton finally has his chance to get the Broncos in the playoffs :lol:

[Droford]

You can't, really. We got embarrassed by the Chargers. No reason we should have lost that game. Though it does continue the pattern of losing to awful teams while beating good ones.

I can laugh all I want. The Steelers had the same chance the Ravens had (to lock up the #1 seed/bye/home field) and they choked even harder than the Ravens did. I actually could see them losing to the Rams if they play like they did on monday.

[FearedSanctity]

Yes, because losing to the #2 team in the NFC while your star QB is hobbled is exactly the same thing as losing to the #10 team in the AFC that has been decimated by injuries. It's not choking when a #2 seed loses to it's fellow #2 seed, however a top 5 team losing to one in the bottom half of the league? Yeah, that's a fucking choke

[Droford]

The Chargers are 21-1 in december games over the last 5 years and they've won 3 straight...they wouldnt have been "a bottom half team" if it hadn't been for injuries. And they still have a shot to make the playoffs, and with the offense they have, if they manage to get in, they will probably beat the snot out of the Steelers just the same as they did the Ravens. And if that happens, I am aware it would be likely that the Ravens would play them in the playoffs, but it would be in Baltimore.

The 49ers haven't played a meaningful game to them in December in 10 years and they've looked like crap over the last month outside of the shutout vs St Louis. And if Worthlessberger is hurt is the card Steelers fans are playing, then they have bigger problems because they won't win crap with Charlie Batch at QB.

[FearedSanctity]

You're right, wouldn't have been. But they are, so what could've or should've been means nothing. Their shot at the playoffs is as real as the Eagles' shot, it's possible, but come the fuck on. Their shot is the Wildcard, because even if Denver, Oakland and SD all finish 8-8, Denver owns the tiebreaker. Basically their "hopes" require Oakland, New York, Kansas City, Tennessee and Cincinnati to ALL lose out. Not gonna happen

wtf does meaningful games in December have to do with how SF played Monday? SF and PIT were playing for the exact same shit, a top seed and a first round bye. Motivation for either side isn't a question. And just because they've played like "crap" recently doesn't make them a bad team. By that definition GB shitting the bed against KC for one week makes them a bad team

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Pittsburgh was playing for Home Field Advantage throughout the playoffs if the standings stayed the way they were. So, they we're actually playing for more than SF but just fucked up.

[Droford]

Well, whatever, Im reading forums and such where Steelers fans post such things as:

They give it to us wrapped up in a pretty big bow... and we piss it away on Monday Night in the dark.

It's hard to be a Steeler fan right now with all of this uncertainty.

Ugh.so obviously Steelers fans are feeling not too good about things...

[Supreme Olajuwon]

because they're not nearly as delusional as Ravens fans

well, not all Ravens fans. just you

[Nark Order]

That's a whole lot of pressure you're giving to that one Steelers fan; having him represent the entire fan base and all.

[Nark Order]

Truth is, a whole lot of things went our way Monday night but it isn't exactly like the Steelers were handicapped beyond repair. Ben still threw for over 300 yards, despite not feeling ready to compete. Harrison didn't play the game but neither did our best linebacker Patrick Willis.

I will say though, the power outages probably benefited us more than they did Pittsburgh because Ben had to wait long periods of time after he had just gotten his legs all warmed up to compete. Waiting that long to play again can't be good when you're in the cold and you have an injury that you need to keep warmed up so it doesn't tighten up. I felt kinda of bad for Ben at the end of the game. He threw for over 300 yards whilst injured and had almost nothing to show for it,

[Ermaximus]

At least the Steelers lose to respectably decent teams, unlike, you know the Ravens.

[Droford]

Ravens have the 2nd highest Strength of Victory % (combined winning % of teams beaten) in the NFL at .506 and I will say they might as well be #1 since the Rams and their 2 wins are #1 at .536. Buffalo and Indianapolis are the only other teams above .500. And yes, obviously had they beaten the Jaguars the SOV would be lower (if they beat the chargers/titans/seahawks, they're all .500 right now so it wouldn't affect it)

Pittsburgh is .450, New England is .448, Denver is .446, NY Jets are .402 and Houston is .400.

over in the NFC, SF is .448, Green Bay is .440, New Orleans is .422, Dallas is .393, Detroit is .389 and Atlanta is .365

The Ravens have beaten 1/3 of the playoff field if it were set today already this season (SF/NYJ/Houston/Pittsburgh twice). The Packers have beaten 4 teams (Denver/New Orleans/Atlanta/Detroit twice) as well.

[Reavant]

Well, whatever, Im reading forums and such where Steelers fans post such things as:

so obviously Steelers fans are feeling not too good about things...

LOL watch espn and hear all the analysts that "dont trust" flacco

[Hanso Amore]

Ravens have the 2nd highest Strength of Victory % (combined winning % of teams beaten) in the NFL at .506 and I will say they might as well be #1 since the Rams and their 2 wins are #1 at .536. Buffalo and Indianapolis are the only other teams above .500. And yes, obviously had they beaten the Jaguars the SOV would be lower (if they beat the chargers/titans/seahawks, they're all .500 right now so it wouldn't affect it)

Pittsburgh is .450, New England is .448, Denver is .446, NY Jets are .402 and Houston is .400.

over in the NFC, SF is .448, Green Bay is .440, New Orleans is .422, Dallas is .393, Detroit is .389 and Atlanta is .365

The Ravens have beaten 1/3 of the playoff field if it were set today already this season (SF/NYJ/Houston/Pittsburgh twice). The Packers have beaten 4 teams (Denver/New Orleans/Atlanta/Detroit twice) as well.

Are you a moron? Someone says the Ravens lose to Bad teams and your response to refute that is that the teams they do beat are good? OK....Means nothing when they lose to shit shows like Jacksonville. And any stat that has the BILLS as a high ranked percentage is most likely a fucking dud of a stat.

[Reavant]

Ravens have the 2nd highest Strength of Victory % (combined winning % of teams beaten) in the NFL at .506 and I will say they might as well be #1 since the Rams and their 2 wins are #1 at .536. Buffalo and Indianapolis are the only other teams above .500. And yes, obviously had they beaten the Jaguars the SOV would be lower (if they beat the chargers/titans/seahawks, they're all .500 right now so it wouldn't affect it)

Pittsburgh is .450, New England is .448, Denver is .446, NY Jets are .402 and Houston is .400.

over in the NFC, SF is .448, Green Bay is .440, New Orleans is .422, Dallas is .393, Detroit is .389 and Atlanta is .365

The Ravens have beaten 1/3 of the playoff field if it were set today already this season (SF/NYJ/Houston/Pittsburgh twice). The Packers have beaten 4 teams (Denver/New Orleans/Atlanta/Detroit twice) as well.

outdide of the 49ers, your only other quality wins come from your own division.

[Hanso Amore]

Seriously....OH WELL THEY HAVE THIS MADE UP STUPID IRRELLAVANT STAT THAT IS HIGH, WITH SUCH TEAMS AS 1 WIN INDY, 2 WIN RAMS AND 7 GAME LOSING STREAK BILLS.

Keep crunching those numbers.

[Nark Order]

At least the Steelers lose to respectably decent teams, unlike, you know the Ravens.


:( Jags

[Droford]

Houston was with Schaub and they're a division winner and probably gonna win 12 games.

The Jets game was in primetime and they're a wild card potential 10 win team.

[Droford]

Seriously....OH WELL THEY HAVE THIS MADE UP STUPID IRRELLAVANT STAT THAT IS HIGH, WITH SUCH TEAMS AS 1 WIN INDY, 2 WIN RAMS AND 7 GAME LOSING STREAK BILLS.

Keep crunching those numbers.

Its actually used as a tiebreaker so it isn't totally irrelevant, and it was why the Ravens would have been the #1 seed over the Patriots had they finished with identitcal records..and is why Im holding out hope that the Pats might slip up vs a halfway decent Dolphins team this week.

[Nark Order]

How about the Seahawks? How about Jacksonville? (:()

[Droford]

Seahawks are a 7-7 team now just like the Titans, with a slim shot at making the playoffs.

Funny how everyone complains about those two losses and yet they're .500 teams right now along with SD. The only bad loss was the Jacksonville game.

[Nark Order]

No way the Ravens should have lost to the Seahawks there. Seahawks are very one dimensional team that relies much too heavily on the run. The Ravens have an incredible defense and stopping them should not have been a problem. Marshawn Lynch went over 100 yards in that game and he was playing injured.

Come on, guy.

[Nark Order]

I feel like I should actually support the Ravens and everything they stand for but I just can't bring myself to do it. The problem definitely lyes with Droford. They are a very similar team to the 9ers

-Subpar QB
-Vicious defense
-Big run game
-Harbaugh

Droford is to blame. DEATH TO THE RAVENS.

[Emperor Smeat]

Its actually used as a tiebreaker so it isn't totally irrelevant, and it was why the Ravens would have been the #1 seed over the Patriots had they finished with identitcal records..and is why Im holding out hope that the Pats might slip up vs a halfway decent Dolphins team this week.

Dolphins play at New England this week and Miami always struggles a lot up north in the winter. Been like that even during the Marino years.

Brady's bad record with Miami usually involves the games being in Miami or Miami lucking out and playing in New England when its warm.

Buffalo probably gives a tougher fight mostly for pride reasons and to see if they can prevent New England starting another 14+ win streak against them.

[RoXer]

Narcissusesis feelings on supporting the Ravens

[Droford]

Question: What do Packers fans do after the team loses a perfect season?

Child Abuse! (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Woman-accused-of-choking-her-daughter-because-th?urn=nfl-wp14394)

According to the criminal complaint, the 36-year-old woman had been drinking and, upon conclusion of the Packers' loss, grabbed her 11-year-old daughter by the neck and choked her hard enough that she couldn't breathe. The woman's husband said she also broke a lamp, threw her dinner on the floor and tried to punch him in the face.

Football is serious business in Green Bay.

[Droford]

I feel like I should actually support the Ravens and everything they stand for but I just can't bring myself to do it. The problem definitely lyes with Droford. They are a very similar team to the 9ers

-Subpar QB
-Vicious defense
-Big run game
-Harbaugh

Droford is to blame. DEATH TO THE RAVENS.

nothing about how the Ravens beat them? Disapointing.

I feel pretty condident in saying the Ravens can beat any of the other teams in the AFC and the only team that really scares me right now in the NFC is the Saints. I think the Ravens could stop the Packers, but I have a hard time seeing them being able to stop the Saints. All the other teams in the NFC are garbage or the Ravens have already beaten once (49ers).

[McLegend]

Droford you would do the same thing if you had lamps in your house.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

or if you were ever around other people

[Droford]

I handled the loss to the Titans considerably well since I was sitting behind 3 rather obnoxious Titans fans who made it a point to turn around and point out to me exactly what was happening every time the Titans did something.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

well judging by your posts, you do need a bit of football education

[Nervous Ferret]

In the NFL the difference between being a 6 win team and an 11 win team can be so minuscule it's just really retarded to do things like "power rankings" or compare losses from months earlier. Last year in like week 13 or 14 the Patriots penetrated the Jets bunghole repeatedly on Monday Night football. It was an embarrassment. Clearly the Patriots were a far superior team that night. And then the Jets beat them in the playoffs. I could find dozens more similar examples.

Ja the Ravens have been one of the better AFC teams in recent history based on continous playoff appearances and a decent amount of playoff wins. Anyone who ends up being "shocked" if the Ravens make/win the Superbowl was also probably "shocked" at whatever the latest political scandal was. And anyone who is "certain" the Ravens are going to fuck shit up in January was also probably "certain" that some nigger would never be president


The Packers have clearly demonstrated they are the team to beat this year and they just lost to Cromeo's Chiefs. Shit happens. Jesus.

[Nervous Ferret]

That being said can't wait for the Jets to back into the 6 seed (again), luck out with a winnable wild card round game (again) presumably at Houston, then play the game of their season at New England (again) only to fall just short of the SuperBowl (again). Unless the Ravens also make it to the conference championship then Baltimore has no shot because Flacco is a choooookeeeee lolollololoolollolololololololoololoolololooloolololololo

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Fan voting for the Pro Bowl is complete. It's a joke as per usual, but it only counts for 1/3 of the vote. Players and coaches vote this week.

AFC
QB Tom Brady, Patriots
RB Arian Foster, Texans
FB Vonta Leach, Ravens
WR Wes Welker, Patriots
TE Rob Gronkowski, Patriots
T Michael Oher, Ravens
G Logan Mankins, Patriots
C Maurkice Pouncey, Steelers
K Sebastian Janikowski, Raiders
KR Joe McKnight, Jets
DE Andre Carter, Patriots
DT Haloti Ngata, Ravens
OLB Terrell Suggs, Ravens
LB Ray Lewis, Ravens
CB Darrelle Revis, Jets
SS Troy Polamalu, Steelers
FS Ed Reed, Ravens
P Shane Lechler, Raiders
ST Brendon Ayanbadejo, Ravens

NFC
QB Aaron Rodgers, Packers
RB LeSean McCoy, Eagles
FB John Kuhn, Packers
WR Calvin Johnson, Lions
TE Jimmy Graham, Saints
T Chad Clifton, Packers
G T.J. Lang, Packers
C Scott Wells, Packers
K Mason Crosby, Packers
KR Devin Hester, Bears
DE Jared Allen, Vikings
DT Justin Smith, 49ers
OLB DeMarcus Ware, Cowboys
ILB Patrick Willis, 49ers
CB Charles Woodson, Packers
SS Roman Harper, Saints
FS Morgan Burnett, Packers
P Andy Lee, 49ers
ST Jarrett Bush, Packers</font>

[RoXer]

DrA, why are you posting as Nerf?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Why is there only one WR, T, G, and CB? That's stupid. People are stupid. You're stupid.

[Droford]

I think Texans fans helped get Leach in since he was with the Texans last year and helped Foster have his great year last year.

[Emperor Smeat]

Bills final home game this season against the Broncos ended up getting the blackout restrictions so not even Tebow was enough to get a sell out in Buffalo nor can the game be watched on tv in Buffalo.

James Harrison thinks if he got punished for the hit on McCoy then the Browns deserve a punishment as well for their handling of him since the hit. His reasoning was the Browns shouldn't have put him back in the game if he was hurt so they need a punishment. He also refused to change his hitting style by saying he has been "lowering his body" the entire season for hits.

[screech]

James Harrison is a piece of shit. Can't stand him.

[screech]

Seahawks are a 7-7 team now just like the Titans, with a slim shot at making the playoffs.

Funny how everyone complains about those two losses and yet they're .500 teams right now along with SD. The only bad loss was the Jacksonville game.

They were all bad losses because we should have won all those games.

[Ermaximus]

And MJD gets the snub yet again. Fuck that shit.

Also, let it be known, I hate the Ravens because of Droford, but love them because of Screech. It's hard to dislike something when Screech likes it cuz he's just a really swell guy.

[Hanso Amore]

Bills final home game this season against the Broncos ended up getting the blackout restrictions so not even Tebow was enough to get a sell out in Buffalo nor can the game be watched on tv in Buffalo.

James Harrison thinks if he got punished for the hit on McCoy then the Browns deserve a punishment as well for their handling of him since the hit. His reasoning was the Browns shouldn't have put him back in the game if he was hurt so they need a punishment. He also refused to change his hitting style by saying he has been "lowering his body" the entire season for hits.

24 thousand tickets left.

Go figure, 12 years of no playoffs, and the most inept head office in the league has FINALLY killed off the fan base...until next year.

[Reavant]

chad ochocinco was like the fourth or fifth highest voted player for the probowl by the fans LOL

[Ermaximus]

chad ochocinco was like the fourth or fifth highest voted player for the probowl by the fans LOL

More proof that fans are stupid and base votes off who they know rather than skill. Has Ochocinco even done shit this year? I think he has what, 1 TD?

[RP]

Only thing I'm interested in tonight is finding out if Donald Brown is for real tonight.

[Ermaximus]

Who was the last great RB Indy had RP?

[RP]

Edge

[DaveBrawl]

Marshall Faulk :lol:

[RP]

Edge

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Eric Dickerson :lol:

[RP]

Edge

[Nark Order]

No Frank Gore? I will make it my life's mission to hunt down every last soul that voted.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

McCoy's kinda having a way better season than Gore.

[Droford]

Derrick Mason is probably going to be back with the Ravens since Boldin is out til the playoffs.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

You know how like Gore has 7 TDs? McCoy has like 20.

[Nark Order]

McCoy's kinda having a way better season than Gore.

I suppose he is in a "everything I do doesn't matter because my team is awful" kind of way.

:(

[Supreme Olajuwon]

oh you

[Nervous Ferret]

http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?p=3710009#post3710009

:)

[DaveBrawl]

Eric Dickerson :lol:

:foc:

[RP]

Edge

[RP]

I lovE how Bengal fans dont go to game s even tho they have the hottest QB and WR combo in the league. Fucking lame fans.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

yeah started off as a protest this season because everyone thought they'd suck and people could show Mike Brown that they weren't gonna support a shitty team

but then they ended up not sucking and now people are just like ehhhhh I still don't wanna go

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I went to the Colts game and 1 game is all I have in this budget so I've done my part.

[RP]

Im not saying you personally. Just saying. In general. It's a joke . Daulton and Green are fantastic. And the defense isn't bad at all.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

yeah mad haters in the fan base still

listening to the local sports talk call in shows is ridiculous because 70% of the Bengals' fan base are huge hicks, and the only people that call in to those shows are the huge hick fans

[Supreme Olajuwon]

http://bengals.enquirer.com/2004/10/26/mnf_trooper.jpg

[RP]

Just saying, got a good friend that is a Steeler fan. Probably going to cincinnatti for a game maybe. Love Green.

[Droford]

The Cincinnatti Bengals, sponsored by Tide! It'll get the orange out.

[Droford]

Clearly, Ohio doesn't really support football unless its played at the Ohio State University.

[DaveBrawl]

http://bengals.enquirer.com/2004/10/26/mnf_trooper.jpg

I almost dropped the Hokie Bird when he tried this one time. He came surfing through the crowd and when he got to me the people around me decided they didn't want to touch him or something so here I am trying to pass him along when everyone else just takes a step back while I'm in midpass, someone else beside them grabbed him before I dropped him though.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

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[Supreme Olajuwon]

Oh and here's high school AJ Green for you jive ass suckas

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[Droford]

No Derrick Mason for the Ravens, Lee Evans moving up to starter.

Rumor also was they had called T.O. but that was shot down.

Probably just gonna run the ball 50 times again vs the Browns and deal with the Bengals game as it goes..

[screech]

Need some fantasy advice for the championship, friends.

Boldin looks to be out this week. My backup WRs are Eric Decker (who has done absolutely nothing for me) and Robert Meachem (who is too inconsistent to actually start).

Demaryius Thomas is available, which wouldn't be bad I guess but it depends how much DEN decides to throw. Also Jabar Gaffney has a pretty good matchup. Can't believe I'm putting so much into this (never really into fantasy before).

I think I've narrowed it down, since a lot of other WR options may not play, but I'm not sure. If you had to choose between those two, who would it be?

[FearedSanctity]

Weather for Denver @ Buffalo is supposed to be pretty shit, but Denver is passing more. Could seriously go either way. Denver doesn't really have a #1 WR, more like 1 and 1a. May be best to just avoid Denver WRs totally, but if you're gonna go with one between DT and ED Demaryius is probably best

[Droford]

Houston sucks

dunno why Im watching

horrible game

[screech]

I went with Jabar Gaffney. Denver's inconsistency with passing/targets is too big a gamble for the final. Plus I like the matchup Gaffney has, and he's been solid.

[Skippord]

I wish he were a Bronco still :'(

[RoXer]

Hey idiots,

Stop winning.

You idiots.

[Corndad]

Wow is Houston actually gonna lose this.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Think St. Louis and Minnesota both jump Indy in the draft order if Indy wins this game.

Whoops.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: Texans.

They could be out of the race for a bye and a lock on home field advantage if both the Patriots and Ravens/Steelers win. Denver would also be 1 game behind for the Texans #3 seed if they win against the Bills.

:lol: Minnesota now holds the #1 draft pick because of Indy's wins being stronger than Minny's.

[RoXer]

Think St. Louis and Minnesota both jump Indy in the draft order if Indy wins this game.

Whoops.

Idiots

[Supreme Olajuwon]

would be muy interesante if St. Louis or Minnesota has the first pick with Bradford and Ponder both showing they're good, but maybe not great.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

and now that Matt Barkley is out of the draft, that pick becomes worth even more CASH $$$

[Corndad]

Texas played like they wanted to lose so didn't have to play Luck for the next ten years in their division. lol

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Really no doubt that the Texans are going one and done in the playoffs.</font>

[RoXer]

• Strength of schedule for the previous season is the first tie-breaker for teams with the same winning percentage. The team with the lowest strength of schedule percentage wins the tiebreaker and picks ahead of all other teams with the same record.

• Divisional and conference records are the next step in the tie-breaking procedure.

• As a last resort, a coin toss is used to determine the order of selection for teams with the same winning percentage.



So, the team who had an EASIER schedule gets the first pick?

[RoXer]

oh wait hang on thats old

[OssMan]

• Strength of schedule for the previous season is the first tie-breaker for teams with the same winning percentage. The team with the lowest strength of schedule percentage wins the tiebreaker and picks ahead of all other teams with the same record.

• Divisional and conference records are the next step in the tie-breaking procedure.

• As a last resort, a coin toss is used to determine the order of selection for teams with the same winning percentage.



So, the team who had an EASIER schedule gets the first pick?
Yhea makes sense, the team who went 2-14 against the shitty teams should pick before the team who went 2-14 against the harder teams.

[RoXer]

I can't find current SoS ratings but some article on ESPN a few weeks ago predicted the Colts would have a lower percentage than the Rams so I'll go with that.

[DrA]

I would assume this win would bump them up over the Rams.

[DrA]

Strength of Schedule is a specious statistic for the most part. It puts too many things out of context.

[RoXer]

Strength of Schedule is a specious statistic for the most part. It puts too many things out of context.

Well that's what the tie-breaker is so whatever.

I can't find any current SOS rankings. Gunna stop looking too. Who am I, Sherlock Holmes?

[RoXer]

Not gunna crunch the numbers either. Who am I, Albert Einstein?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

ESPN has the SOS as such:

Vikings - .587
Rams - .566
Colts - .547

[Supreme Olajuwon]

so yeah I guess Colts are still picking first

[DrA]

How do they calculate that number, I think I used to know the formula, maybe I didn't. I'm going to try and find out.

[RoXer]

Whoa, slow down there Albert Einsteen!

[DrA]

I looked it up, it's some stupid formula.

[FearedSanctity]

Colts do play the Jags next week. Irsay has to be stroking out about the idea of winning another one, bet Caldwell gets canned after Christmas

[owenbrown]

Projected draft order: as of this week so far

source: CBS Sports http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/standings/playoffrace

1 1 1 Indianapolis
1 2 2 St. Louis
1 3 3 Minnesota
1 4 4 Cleveland
1 5 5 Jacksonville
1 6 6 Tampa Bay
1 7 7 Washington
1 8 8 Miami
1 9 9 Buffalo
1 10 10 Carolina
1 11 11 Philadelphia
1 12 12 Kansas City
1 13 13 Arizona
1 14 14 Tennessee
1 15 15 Seattle
1 16 16 Dallas
1 17 17 San Diego
1 18 18 New York Giants
1 19 19 Chicago
1 20 20 Cincinnati from Oakland
1 21 21 Cincinnati
1 22 22 New York Jets
1 23 23 Denver
1 24 24 Detroit
1 25 25 Cleveland from Atlanta
1 26 26 Houston
1 27 27 Pittsburgh
1 28 28 San Francisco
1 29 29 Baltimore
1 30 30 New England from New Orleans
1 31 31 New England
1 32 32 Green Bay

[Blakeamus]

Man, why isn't ESPN giving Brees enough credit for his race to beat Marino single season pass record? The talk of this record having an asterick is ridiculous.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

What? ESPN loves Drew Brees. Cut that out.

[Reavant]

why would it have an asterick?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Brees is an excellent quarterback, but breaking the passing record in 2011 when quarterbacks can't even be touched means nothing.</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

So then why aren't 15 QBs breaking the 5,000 yard mark this season?

[Reavant]

well to be fair... 3 of them might

[Reavant]

make that four

[Reavant]

id say marino doing it when he did, is a bit more impressive. considering there was no rules protecting the quarterback, DBs could rough up the WRs much more than they can now, and the receivers were not the same quality that they are now.

[Emperor Smeat]

<font color=goldenrod>Brees is an excellent quarterback, but breaking the passing record in 2011 when quarterbacks can't even be touched means nothing.</font>

Brees has been slowly going after the record for the past few years so its not that surprising he might actually break it this season.

Probably could have broken it last year if it wasn't for the large amount of INTs (22) he threw which killed a bunch of quality Saints drives. I think only Eli Manning had more INTs last year.

The main reason why a lot of quarterbacks had huge passing numbers was due to the lack of training camps hurting defenses more this year than offenses. Newton himself had like 800+ yards in the first 2 games and then settled down as the season went on.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Marino's record is more impressive, no doubt. But to say that breaking the record means nothing is stupid.

[Blakeamus]

Well that is what they were discussing the other day and I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I always thought ESPN showed plenty of love towards Drew Brees. But these were coming from the same people that was on the TEBOW bandwagon cock until The Pats/Brady beat them. In Marino's era, it was impressive what he did, but why even considered an asterick to the record because of the difference in eras? If that is the case than, why have records to begin with?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Marking it with an asterik makes no sense, it's not Brees' fault he plays in a completely different NFL than Marino did. I just don't see why the record would be viewed as important at this point. Hardly seems worth it to throw 50 yard bombs down the field when the game is already out of reach just to break it.</font>

[Hanso Amore]

To Jump back a bit tp Supremes videos.

I would trade the bills whole draft last year for AJ green and ANdy Dalton. The bills passed on both.

UGH.

Marcel Dareus is a great player. But to pass on Dalton hurts. I liked him alot. Dude is a winner.

Cincy has a bright future. Add in all these Palmer picks. YIKES.

[Corndad]

Ben out, Batch starting tomorrow for Steelers.

Smart move really. Not much to play for after loss on Monday vs San Fran.

[Hanso Amore]

Wow. Batch....in 2011

[Emperor Smeat]

Good move considering Steelers most likely lost out on the valuable 1st round bye spot and might as well start Big Ben's recovery rest now before the playoffs start.

Baltimore could still have an epic goof up against the Browns but the Bengals game will decide the division considering the Bengals probably will need to win to get the final playoff spot so they won't be as much of a pushover like the first match.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Pushover? They lost by 7 on the road, ya putz.

[Emperor Smeat]

My mistake.

I mixed up Pitt's 2nd game (35-7) with the Ravens 1st game against the Bengals. The Ravens did have a big lead in the first game but the Bengals almost came back although Dalton did have a bad game in terms of passing rate and INTs but not in yards.

[Droford]

Wow. Batch....in 2011

As often Ben misses games, you'd think the Steelers would get a better backup.

[DaveWadding]

lol what?

[Droford]

2005 - 4 games knee injuries
2006 - 1 game motorcycle accident/appendectomy
2007 - 1 game already clinched
2009 - 1 game injued
2010 - 4 games (suspension)
2011 - 1 game so far, ankle

Hes only played all 16 games 1 time in 2008

Meanwhile, through 4 years games Joe Flacco has missed:

..

[Droford]

I took the Rams +14.5

Kellen Clemens beat the Steelers the last time he faced them.

Come the fuck on Rams, you beat the Saints..

[Droford]

McGahee needs 210 yards to be the first player ever to go for 1200 yards with 3 teams.

I bet he gets most of that vs a terrible vs the rush Bills team.

[#1-norm-fan]

I have been up all night going back and forth between starting Kevin Smith or Kahlil Bell in my fantasy championship game. This is the toughest decision I have ever had to make about anything in this history of ever.

[#1-norm-fan]

I mean... TECHNICALLY I could bench Mendenhall or Jones-Drew and play both of them.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Let's go Giants! Boo Jets! Jets are stupid! Boo! Mark Sanchez is feminine! Eli Manning is unstoppable! Rex Ryan is heavyset and enjoys feet!

[#1-norm-fan]

Oh yes, and go Jets. Despite Mark Sanchez definitely being a lady.

[screech]

Felix Jones is questionable. So is Green-Ellis. My other options are Mark Ingram, who is also hurt & may not play, and LT who hasn't done much of anything.

[screech]

Also Billy Cundiff is out so there goes a good chunk of points since BAL kicks FGs 94% of the time.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The Giants' shuffled offensive line had been gelling really well and playing great as of late. But why would you want that? David Baas back in at center, Kevin Boothe to left guard, and poor Mitch Petrus benched.

Couglin is completely unflexible when it comes to deciding between vets and young guys.</font>

[Corndad]

Felix Jones is questionable. So is Green-Ellis. My other options are Mark Ingram, who is also hurt & may not play, and LT who hasn't done much of anything.

Can't believe gonna give a Ravens fan advice but your a nicer and logical one so why not. I would say the best option would be picking up Evan Royster who is starting now for Redskins against Vikings Def. Helu is out today. I had same issue with Felix Jones today.

[screech]

I only get one drop/add per week & I already grabbed Jabar Gaffney cause Boldin is out.

[Droford]

Also Billy Cundiff is out so there goes a good chunk of points since BAL kicks FGs 94% of the time.
They're gonna run the ball 50 times like they did the last game vs Cleveland and score TDs.

Shayne Graham isn't that much worse than Cundiff had been

[screech]

Ray Rice was my first pick in the draft so I'm not worried there.

[screech]

My opponent has Big Ben starting. Refreshing the matchup page every minute or so to see if he updates that.

[OssMan]

My opponent has Big Ben starting. Refreshing the matchup page every minute or so to see if he updates that.
keep us posted

[#1-norm-fan]

Help me out guys. I've got to decide who to play. It's a normal 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR setup and it's a PPR league.

My options are...

WR: AJ Green, Marques Colston, Dez Bryant and Laurent Robinson.

RB: Maurice Jones-Drew, Rashard Menenhall, Kevin Smith, Kahlil Bell

I'm set with Green and Colston as my WRs. Can't bench Jones-Drew. Mendenhall is playing at home against St. Louis which feels like a must play especially with Batch starting. Bell is supposed to be like a mini Forte and kinda played like it last week and should catch a decent amount of passes @ Green Bay. Smith in a dome has been amazing when he's been helathy. Don't think I wanna gamble with Dez or Laurent.

I'm horribly torn.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Tony Romo, the Cowboys this season mirrors the Packers from last season with his biggest reason being the records being the same and the last 2 games being both must-win games. He even went as far as saying they are title contenders like the Pack last season.

[#1-norm-fan]

A lot of people say a lot of things.

[OssMan]

kenny albert calling another giants game

[screech]

Help me out guys. I've got to decide who to play. It's a normal 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR setup and it's a PPR league.

My options are...

WR: AJ Green, Marques Colston, Dez Bryant and Laurent Robinson.

RB: Maurice Jones-Drew, Rashard Menenhall, Kevin Smith, Kahlil Bell

I'm set with Green and Colston as my WRs. Can't bench Jones-Drew. Mendenhall is playing at home against St. Louis which feels like a must play especially with Batch starting. Bell is supposed to be like a mini Forte and kinda played like it last week and should catch a decent amount of passes @ Green Bay. Smith in a dome has been amazing when he's been helathy. Don't think I wanna gamble with Dez or Laurent.

I'm horribly torn.

I'd go with Mendenhall. I think Laurent Robinson is hurt or was hurt or something. I forget, but there was a reason I didn't pick him up this week.

[FearedSanctity]

Holy shit the Bills stadium is empty. Seen better turnout for a scrub college bowl game

[screech]

My opponent has Big Ben starting. Refreshing the matchup page every minute or so to see if he updates that.

He started Big Ben. Michael Vick (his first draft choice) is on the bench.

He has LeSean McCoy as well, but I feel a little better about this now.

[RoXer]

Supreme are you watching this? Can I talk about the game w/ u?

[OssMan]

Which game

[Anybody Thrilla]

Can anybody link me to a stream of the Cardinals/Bengals game? I forgot the one RoXer gave me like 14 weeks ago.

[FearedSanctity]

firstrowsports.tv

[RoXer]

Which game

The Cardinals and Benginals

[Anybody Thrilla]

Oddly enough, I found that site through Google and was watching the game just fine, but then it told me I needed to download a plug in and I told it to fuck off. It's working again now, though.

[Anybody Thrilla]

RoXer, you know the game is blacked out in Cincinnati?

[FearedSanctity]

Oddly enough, I found that site through Google and was watching the game just fine, but then it told me I needed to download a plug in and I told it to fuck off. It's working again now, though.

Yeah, think that's just one of the site's dozens of ads

[FearedSanctity]

Jesus Christ, Spiller is fast

[Anybody Thrilla]

I guess it's worth it for a slightly pixelated view of an outside chance for a first round playoff loss. :y:

[Hanso Amore]

Holy shit the Bills stadium is empty. Seen better turnout for a scrub college bowl game

Would you have gone? 7 straight losses getting blown out, 12 years no playoffs. Biggest collapse of the season for any team. And it is Xmas Eve.

I had a chance to go for 20 bucks a seat and I passed.

[Hanso Amore]

LOL 1st and 4 becomes 4th and 4.

Fitzpatrick is no better a thrower than Tebow.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Nobody's at the fucking Bengals game either, and they've still got a shot at the postseason. Almost every single home game has been blacked out this season and the team doesn't even fucking suck. Infuriating.

[RoXer]

RoXer, you know the game is blacked out in Cincinnati?

Looked close. Most of the upper level is empty but everything else is full.

[Hanso Amore]

And Wide Left. 3 Straight weeks of missed field goals in the 1st Quarter.

And the game is turned off. Merry Xmas everyone.

[FearedSanctity]

Would you have gone? 7 straight losses getting blown out, 12 years no playoffs. Biggest collapse of the season for any team. And it is Xmas Eve.

I had a chance to go for 20 bucks a seat and I passed.

I'd have gone, not like I have anything better to do :'(

Also, Tebow

[FearedSanctity]

And there was your weekly Decker Drop though the holding would've negated it anyway

[Droford]

Jackson just busted out a 50 yard run on the Steelers..hhaha

or not

[FearedSanctity]

Holy shit, so sorry Hanso

[Droford]

Im gonna laugh my ass off if the Patriots choke this week to give the Ravens the #1 seed back. Laugh even harder if the Steelers lose to the Rams.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Looked close. Most of the upper level is empty but everything else is full.

Not close enough. I hate watching almost every single home game on the internet this season.

[Droford]

If they can't sell out vs the Ravens next week they need to pack the team up and move them to LA

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'm actually going to that game, so I don't really care.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Seriously though, if they win today and the Jets lose, there's no reason for that not to sell out.

[FearedSanctity]

So many team probably looking to move soon San Antonio's gotta finally be getting one....right? :'(

[Anybody Thrilla]

On the bright side, I can still win a hundred bucks in fantasy and I'm looking solid right now.

[Anybody Thrilla]

So many team probably looking to move soon San Antonio's gotta finally be getting one....right? :'(

Let's just hope they don't get a team as boring as the Spurs.

[Droford]

Seriously though, if they win today and the Jets lose, there's no reason for that not to sell out.

Some would argue that the blackout rule is stupid, but if you can't sell 70,000 tickets to a week 17 game with playoffs on the line vs a division rival then I feel sorry for ya. And Ive got a feeling NBC flexes the game out to Sunday Night anyway..

[FearedSanctity]

Let's just hope they don't get a team as boring as the Spurs.

Good point there actually. If a SA NFL team's fans and Spurs fans are going to be the same people, nevermind. Don't need that fucking annoyance

[Droford]

TOUCHDOWN DOLPHINS! 10-0 hahaha

[FearedSanctity]

Some would argue that the blackout rule is stupid, but if you can't sell 70,000 tickets to a week 17 game with playoffs on the line vs a division rival then I feel sorry for ya. And Ive got a feeling NBC flexes the game out to Sunday Night anyway..

Fuck that, Tebow vs. Orton Revenge Bowl 2011

[Droford]

Flacco to Rice for 40 yards, TOUCHDOWN! 17-0

oh and theres only 3 games with playoff implications that could be flexed, and I guess it will probably be Cowboys/Giants, no way NBC takes Ravens/Bengals or Raiders/Chargers. Green Bay/Detroit cant get flexed because GB is on NBC tomorrow.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Some would argue that the blackout rule is stupid, but if you can't sell 70,000 tickets to a week 17 game with playoffs on the line vs a division rival then I feel sorry for ya. And Ive got a feeling NBC flexes the game out to Sunday Night anyway..

They couldn't black us out on a Sunday night...could they?

You know, we've had some pretty bad teams in the past sell a decent amount of tickets. Last season in particular, though, was a black eye on the franchise. There was so much hype with Ochocinco, T.O., etc. and they fell flat on their faces and pretty much imploded in the off season, it seemed. Our fucking quarterback said he wasn't even going to show up. The fans are fed up with paying way too much for a historically shitty football team.

This season has been a breath of fresh air, though. It really feels like a new beginning, and I think next year they'll sell out almost every game. At least I'm hoping.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Flacco to Rice for 40 yards, TOUCHDOWN! 17-0

oh and theres only 3 games with playoff implications that could be flexed, and I guess it will probably be Cowboys/Giants, no way NBC takes Ravens/Bengals or Raiders/Chargers. Green Bay/Detroit cant get flexed because GB is on NBC tomorrow.

I'm pretty sick of America's hard-on for the Cowboys, btw.

[FearedSanctity]

THE BRONCOS AND THE SECOND QUARTER, EVERYBODY

[RoXer]

What the hell did I just see

[RoXer]

I would gladly allow bonus points for that

Holy shit

[Anybody Thrilla]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT JEROME SIMPSON ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[FearedSanctity]

OH LOOK, ANOTHER RUN/RUN/RUN/PUNT 3 & OUT

[Anybody Thrilla]

Tell me I did NOT just see that.

That has to be number one in the top ten.

[OssMan]

Look at VICTOR KOOLAID 999999 yard TD

[OssMan]

What the hell did I just see
What happen

[RoXer]

Wish other posters coukd realize how insignificant their posts are about the games they're watching when compared to that play

[Hanso Amore]

Holy shit, so sorry Hanso

I stopped watching, what is this in reference to?

[Anybody Thrilla]

What happen

You'll definitely see it on Sportscenter. Jerome Simspon literally somersaulted through the air from flat feet OVER a defender and landed in the endzone, pretty much sticking the landing and holding onto the ball.

[FearedSanctity]

I stopped watching, what is this in reference to?

Was the second missed FG. Should watch again, Broncos OC Mike McCoy has got you guys the lead

[FearedSanctity]

Correction, bigger lead

[Anybody Thrilla]

Keep an eye on your halftime highlights if you're not watching the Cardinals/Bengals. I'm still marking out and that was like two drives ago.

[OssMan]

You'll definitely see it on Sportscenter. Jerome Simspon literally somersaulted through the air from flat feet OVER a defender and landed in the endzone, pretty much sticking the landing and holding onto the ball.
No Sports Center in Peru so thanks, le shizzle

[Anybody Thrilla]

No Sports Center in Peru so thanks, le shizzle

For you:

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qC02AtZYZ9I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[OssMan]

I saw it on the fox halftime report

[McLegend]

Yeah that's one of the most amazing things I have ever seen.

[screech]

If not for Victor Cruz, my opponent would have 2.9 points right now.

[screech]

Just watched that video. Unreal.

[FearedSanctity]

Fun Fact: Of all the plays the Broncos have run this season, they just ran their first QB sneak

[OssMan]

If not for Victor Cruz, my opponent would have 2.9 points right now.
How many does he have

[McLegend]

God The Jets suck. Every Sanchise pass gets batted down at the line.

[Aguakate]

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/7386058/sources-dallas-cowboys-rest-key-starters-new-york-giants-win

If the New York Giants beat the New York Jets on Saturday, the Dallas Cowboys would not be able to win the NFC East, and sources told ESPN the team will consider holding out several injured starters, including DeMarcus Ware.

The other players who could be sidelined are running back Felix Jones and defensive tackle Jay Ratliff, who were both limited in practice throughout the week and listed as questionable, as well as cornerback Mike Jenkins and wide receiver Laurent Robinson.

If the Giants lose to the Jets, the Cowboys can win the division with a victory over the Eagles. But if the Giants win, the Cowboys can accomplish almost nothing Saturday and might prefer to do what they can to get Ware, Jones and Ratliff healthy for what would be a winner-take-all season finale for the Cowboys at the Giants.

[FearedSanctity]

Night and day difference between the Broncos D with and without Dawkins, fuck

[FearedSanctity]

Another Decker Drop

[screech]

How many does he have

At the time, 53. something. Now he has 72.4; Cruz has 65.4.

[screech]

Another Decker Drop

Glad I dropped him.

[FearedSanctity]

Tebow :'(

[McLegend]

Is Sanchez always this bad?

[FearedSanctity]

The fuck was that?

[OssMan]

At the time, 53. something. Now he has 72.4; Cruz has 65.4.
How many do you have

[Emperor Smeat]

Looks like Minnesota will be out of the race for the #1 spot considering how badly of a stinker the Redskins pulled in the 2nd half today.

So now its between St Louis and Indy for the #1 pick and potentially Luck.


Is Sanchez always this bad?
Yes, especially considering he was meant to be the future of the franchise and be better than Brady with the Sanchise nickname. There has been rumors going ever since the end of last season that they might get rid of him or find a new "future" QB although its been more of the fans wanting him gone than the team actually saying it.

Haven't checked the stats but I don't think he never actually improved enough and most of the time the defense managed to hide his weakness like Denver does with Tebow this year.

[ClockShot]

So, uh. Can Brady Quinn get in the game yet?

[screech]

How many do you have

I am winning 84.2 - 72.4. He has LeSean McCoy, who is my biggest worry this weekend.

[Rock Bottom]

cam cameron die

[Droford]

Looks like Minnesota will be out of the race for the #1 spot considering how badly of a stinker the Redskins pulled in the 2nd half today.

So now its between St Louis and Indy for the #1 pick and potentially Luck.


Even if St Louis gets it, they aren't taking luck, they have too much invested in Bradford.

[Hanso Amore]

Fucking Tebow costing the Bills Draft Position.

[Droford]

lol, Ravens draw an offsides on 4th and 2 to win the game..

now lets go to the Dolphins/Patriots game so I can watch the Dolphins blow

[Hanso Amore]

Even if St Louis gets it, they aren't taking luck, they have too much invested in Bradford.

But it does open the possibility of a trade....and therefore no Luck to Colts.

[McLegend]

Fuck you Sanchez...

Really need an Eli tipped pick 6.

[OssMan]

I am winning 84.2 - 72.4. He has LeSean McCoy, who is my biggest worry this weekend.
kewl

[screech]

Dwayne Bowe coming through with a TD.

[McLegend]

Close enough! C'mon

[Droford]

Its probably too much to ask for the Patriots to somehow lose.

ugh..Pats TD..up 10..stupid dolphins

[Droford]

lol and I get Chiefs/Raiders

[Droford]

oakland blocks a 50 yard field goal to go to OT..ugh

[OssMan]

What is with these ads that show Madden footage and they're like Larry Fitzgerald is a great WR, the footage is from like Madden 2007

[Droford]

come on you stupid dolphins, recover the onside kick

[Droford]

Oakland wins..no onside kick with the dolphins though..ugh

[FearedSanctity]

As shit bad as this team was all around today, all they have to do is win next week and they're in

[Skippord]

just had to unfollow Shannon Sharpe on twitter for being annoying about this :'(

[Emperor Smeat]

:D Pats clinch one of the 1st round byes.

:lol: Giants-Jets pre-game routine involved arguing over the use of curtains in the players lockeroom. Jets officials kept trying to cover the Giants Super Bowl victory logos while Giants players kept removing them for the Jets to see.

[Droford]

Coughlin got Payton'ed on the sideline

[FearedSanctity]

lol, and if SD loses to the Lions today and beat Oakland next week Denver can lose to KC next week and STILL make the playoffs

[McLegend]

The Eagles are so good right now, but it doesn't matter because Sanchez blows.

[Droford]

safety lol..

[Triple A]

awful

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Supreme are you watching this? Can I talk about the game w/ u?

ya sorry was watchin with some budzzzz

[FearedSanctity]

Jest

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Go Giants!

[Droford]

It'd be funny if by scoring that TD, the Giants give the Jets enough time to score a TD, onside kick and another TD. they could have just run out the clock

[Supreme Olajuwon]

G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It'd be funny if by scoring that TD, the Giants give the Jets enough time to score a TD, onside kick and another TD. they could have just run out the clock

omg could u imagine?!