NFL 2008-2009 Season Thread

[RoXer]

Chris Henry :(

[#1-norm-fan]

What about him?

[UmbrellaCorporation]

<font color=goldenrod>Well, Chad Johnson is now officially Chad Ocho Cinco</font> :lol:


If he gets traded and has to wear a different number than 85, I'll shit my pants.

[SammyG]

CHAD JAVON OCHO CINCO

[Crimson]

So he really is crazy

[Crimson]

Does he have any kids?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Andre Woodson got cut :$

[ClockShot]

Bengals release Rudi Johnson.

Texans release Roosevelt Colvin.

[CSL]

The adventures of Joey Harrington continue

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wow, pretty surprised we didn't keep Woodson and cut Droughns or somebody.

In fact, if Tynes wasn't hurt, Woodson would be a definite...I'm sure they'll try to get him on the Practice Squad and hope someone else doesn't take him.

Not sure how I feel about John Carney...I hope Tynes isn't out long.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Also, Giants already have 8 players on IR</font> :o

[Kris P Lettus]

John Carney

:(

We cut K Melhalf which make no f'n sense to me.. I mean, he is a really good kicker and has looked almost as good as Gramatica in camp and preseason.. He just doesn't have the consistency Marteeeeeeen does on kick offs..

I dunno, seems like a huge waste..

[RP]

Colts are the best. I hate Kenton Keith and love Mike Hart and so ofcourse, they cut KK today and keep Mike Hart as the 3rd RB. Love it. Love Mike Hart. He reminds me of Curtis Martin. I wouldnt be suprised if he's getting some of Dom's carries by the end of the season.

[#1-norm-fan]

Colts are the best.

lol. That seemed so campy for some reason.

"The Colts are just swell, guys! They're the bees knees!"

[CSL]

Well some of that 'swell' has gone now Lorenzen has been released

[Gonzo]

Wow, pretty surprised we didn't keep Woodson and cut Droughns or somebody.

In fact, if Tynes wasn't hurt, Woodson would be a definite...I'm sure they'll try to get him on the Practice Squad and hope someone else doesn't take him.

Not sure how I feel about John Carney...I hope Tynes isn't out long.

I thought Droughns was a lock to get cut but now that I think about it with what happened last year at RB it makes sense for the Giants to try to stay as deep as possible. I'm confident (knock on wood) that Eli will be fine, as well as Carr because our line won't let him get hit that much.

[RoXer]

What about him?

He was a very solid RB at UofA and deserves more than being on special teams where he almost got killed :(

[Ninti the Mad]

New rules.


— Giving designated defensive players a radio in his helmet, allowing coaches to relay defensive signals just as offensive signals are relayed from offensive coaches to the quarterback.

— Eliminating the 5-yard penalties for incidental face masks. Only the 15-yard penalty for grabbing and twisting the mask will be enforced. In addition, officials will be on the lookout for offensive players who latch on to the face masks of defenders in an effort to take them out of plays.

<b>— Eliminating the force out rule. In the past, officials could rule a receiver whose feet had not touched in bounds had made a catch because a defensive player had forced him out. Under the new rule, a receiver must land with both feet in bounds regardless of whether or not he is hit while in the air.

“We feel that with so many levels of judgment that go into the force-out call, it creates a more consistent play when either you get your feet down for a complete pass or you do not,” says Atlanta president Rich McKay, co-chairman of the competition committee, which proposed the change. </b>

— Extending instant replay to cover field goal and extra points and illegal forward handoffs. One reason the rule was added was a play at the end of a game in Baltimore in which Phil Dawson’s 51-yard game-tying field goal attempt for Cleveland bounced off an upright, then off the support behind the crossbar. Officials first ruled it no good because they thought it had hit the crossbar, then conferred and made the correct call.

[#1-norm-fan]

That sucks. I thought the force out rule was a good rule. It doesn't take TOO much judgment either. If a guy is pushing your body while you're in and you come down out of bounds, force out.

[Ninti the Mad]

Yeah, it will be a bitch call when it happens in the endzone and you are on 3rd down.

What if someone just decided to try and carry you outside? Whats the sanction on that? Horrible.

We'll see though. Maybe it'll make the NFL a little more 'gangsta' where the recievers have to work harder and stiff the competition.

[#1-norm-fan]

He was a very solid RB at UofA and deserves more than being on special teams where he almost got killed :(

Okay. I thought you meant the Bengals receiver so I went to NFL.com to see what was going on and found no info.

As for the Titan's Chris Henry, didn't he get suspended for drugs last year?

[#1-norm-fan]

Yeah, it will be a bitch call when it happens in the endzone and you are on 3rd down.

What if someone just decided to try and carry you outside? Whats the sanction on that? Horrible.

We'll see though. Maybe it'll make the NFL a little more 'gangsta' where the recievers have to work harder and stiff the competition.

lol. I can see it now. Some skinny receiver catches a ball in the middle of the field and gets picked up before his feet hit the ground and is carried all the way to the sideline, all the while screaming and fighting to get down. Perfectly legal!!! :lol:

[RoXer]

I think it was overtuned? I don't remember.

[Kris P Lettus]

Card's are gonna start Kurt "paper or plastic" Warner over Leinart..

When are they gonna give him the keys and let him drive??

[#1-norm-fan]

When he stops sucking and Warner stops being way too good for an 80 year old QB.

When you have the talent on offense that Arizona does, you want to win NOW. I totally understand.

[Kris P Lettus]

John Lynch, the longtime Pro Bowl safety signed by New England two weeks ago, was released by the Patriots on Sunday.

"It goes without saying but John is an all-time great safety, one of the league's classiest professionals and his elite play speaks for itself," coach Bill Belichick said of Lynch, who turns 37 on Sept. 25. "As has been the case in other situations, I would not rule anything out down the road."

During their decade-long run of success, the Patriots have regularly signed veterans and often released them, only to sign them again if needed. Belichick's comments indicate Lynch may be in that category. He has played 15 seasons, 11 in Tampa Bay and four in Denver.

The Patriots also cut Chad Jackson, their second-round pick in 2006. The wide receiver from Florida has been plagued by injuries and played only two games last season.

I guess Stima was right..

:-\

[ClockShot]

John Lynch is always welcome back to Denver.

[ClockShot]

Denver cuts Glenn Martinez.

Thought the guy had a good future and could do some good in the WR crew.

[RP]

his " elite play " speaks for itself? I guess it wasnt elite enough for New England.

[RP]

They have a 2nd place ring you know.

[Kris P Lettus]

OMG

this (http://www.nfl.com/transactions?transactionMonth=8&transactionYear=2008&transactionTeamAbbr=&prevTransactionTeamAbbr=&prevTransactionMonth=0&prevTransactionYear=0)

Says Jason "Toast" David got cut today.. I see no news of it anywhere else..

WTF

Also

"The New Orleans Saints have signed seven players to their practice squad, it was announced by Executive Vice President/General Manager Mickey Loomis.

The players signed were G Tim Duckworth, LB Jo-Lonn Dunbar, WR Skyler Green, RB Lynell Hamilton, TE Buck Ortega and DE Josh Savage."

No Palko or Melhalf.. I'm glad we're trying to keep Skyler Green around..

[SammyG]

Rams add Ricky Manning Jr...

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

What if someone just decided to try and carry you outside? Whats the sanction on that? Horrible.I heard that is still going to be called a touchdown. So there will still be some judgment for the ref (a push out = no catch but a carry out does)

As for Lynch I bet he'll still play at least a few games for the Patriots this year

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah, I heard on Sportscenter tonight that he won't get his guarantee if he doesn't play week one so, they cut him and are planning on resigning him week two..

lol

That is sad..

[DaveWadding]

Card's are gonna start Kurt "paper or plastic" Warner over Leinart..

When are they gonna give him the keys and let him drive??

When they rehire Denny "He is WHO I THOUGHT HE IS" Green??

[RP]

I think Kurt Warner has one really great year in him. This might be it. I'll be making my season predictions in a few. Stay tuned.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Tampa cut Eugene Wilson :wtf:

[CSL]

Pats signed Deltha O'Neal

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Tampa cut Eugene Wilson :wtf:
His play has really been on the decline the last few years, can't say that I am that surprised

[Kris P Lettus]

Jason David didn't get cut.. It was a "typo" by NFL.com..

I bet the asshole who did it is a Falcons fan..

:foc:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

His play has really been on the decline the last few years, can't say that I am that surprised

I guess. You'd think they would know that before signing him :-\

[Kris P Lettus]

My fantasy squad:

domiWHODATnation

-QB-

T. Brady
D. Gerrard
J. Russell

-RB-

M. Jones-Drew
F. Taylor
M. Forte

-WR-

P. Burress
L. Moore (WOOOOOOOO)
M. Harrison
A. Randle El

-TE-

J. Witten
V. Davis

-K-

S. Gostkowski

-D/ST-

JAX
Indy

[Crimson]

My team would kill yours

[Kris P Lettus]

post it

[CSL]

Just read that Antonio Cromartie has 5 kids :eek:

[Gonzo]

Anything goes when it comes to hoes man.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Just read that Antonio Cromartie has 5 kids :eek:

Travis Henry has like 9 or something ridiculous

[Gonzo]

I just don't understand how you can have that many kids. They just must not give a shit. I mean you figure you have all the money in the world, that takes care of it right?

[ClockShot]

Lions sign Rudi Johnson and release Tatum Bell.

Joe Flacco wins the QB job in Baltimore.

But the big story today is Jags OT Richard Collier getting shot this morning. He's in critical condition.

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah,that sucks.. Specially since I have both their RBs and Gerrard on my Fantasy Squad.. Dude didn't have a starting job, but had competed heavily for it through out training camp..

:(

[Nervous Ferret]

Joe Flacco over Troy Smith? Didn't see that coming

[ClockShot]

Broncos trade CB Domonique Foxworth to the Falcons for an 7th round draft pick. Could be higher if Foxworth gets a good amount of playtime.

Kinda spooked about this. I wanna know what Shanahan got cooking in that brain of his. Unless we got one hell of an corner I don't know about, bad trade.

[Gonzo]

Joe Flacco over Troy Smith? Didn't see that coming

Smith is out with some sort of tonsil infection.

[RP]

Broncos trade CB Domonique Foxworth to the Falcons for an 7th round draft pick. Could be higher if Foxworth gets a good amount of playtime.

Kinda spooked about this. I wanna know what Shanahan got cooking in that brain of his. Unless we got one hell of an corner I don't know about, bad trade.

Champ Bailey and Dre Bly?

[RP]

Yahoo Fantasy football draft tomorrow joind now pls.

ID:643594

PW:123123

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Lions sign Rudi Johnson and release Tatum Bell.

Joe Flacco wins the QB job in Baltimore.

But the big story today is Jags OT Richard Collier getting shot this morning. He's in critical condition.

Nah the big story is Tatum Bell stole Rudi's bags.

[VonErichLives]

and bigger news...

Brady has a fracture in his foot... repoted needs 3-4 weeks to heal, but he's still expected to play week 1.

Here's how the season starts.

Chiefs
@ Jets
Phins
BYE
@ 49'ers.

I wouldn't mind if they sat him the first 3 games and the bye, heck even game 4 (week 5) vs. SF... and let it heal fully.

although, no one seems to know when the break happened, so he might only be a week away.

[Kris P Lettus]

Damn it..

If he plays, I'm still gonna start him in my FFL..

[Kris P Lettus]

<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="bodyCopy">WEEI in Boston says that they are "hearing" that people familiar with an MRI taken on Tom Brady's foot says there is a crack in Brady's foot.</td> </tr> <tr> <td>http://fantasyfootball.usatoday.com/images/clear.gif</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="vaLink">Before everyone gets excited, consider that the radio hosts admit in the preamble that they have no way to confirm that the news is remotely true and that it's third-hand information. Then they also point out Brady will play this week and if the Patriots were more concerned, they would have signed another veteran quarterback. Another foot injury is a concern for Brady, but a salacious "report" on WEEI isn't.</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="vaLink">http://fantasyfootball.usatoday.com/images/clear.gif</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="vaLink">Source: WEEI.com (http://audio.weei.com/m/audio/20825621/news_on_brady_s_injury.htm?pageid=966)</td></tr></tbody></table>

Where did you hear this news?? Has it been confirmed yet??

[Gonzo]

Didn't he have a stress fracture (ie crack in his foot) in the Superbowl last year?

[RP]

and bigger news...

Brady has a fracture in his foot... repoted needs 3-4 weeks to heal, but he's still expected to play week 1.

Here's how the season starts.

Chiefs
@ Jets
Phins
BYE
@ 49'ers.

I wouldn't mind if they sat him the first 3 games and the bye, heck even game 4 (week 5) vs. SF... and let it heal fully.

although, no one seems to know when the break happened, so he might only be a week away.

I wouldnt mind either. They'd lose 3 of those games.

[VonErichLives]

Where did you hear this news?? Has it been confirmed yet??

WEEI, I missed the original "breaking news" in the morning and caught it on the 2nd show.

The reality is, if he does have a crack Belicheck will NEVER let you know.

Didn't he have a stress fracture (ie crack in his foot) in the Superbowl last year?

I thought he had some type of foot injury...

I wouldnt mind either. They'd lose 3 of those games.

you should stick to thing you know about... like black penis...
- Bob Sanders...

[RP]

You would win those games with Matt Cassell and your slow defense? Ha Ha Ha okkkkkkkkkkkkk is Plax playing defense?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

It was reported by a member of the sports media in Boston, same pool of people (granted it was from 2 different organizations, but they are all the same) who said Matt Walsh had a videotape of the Rams walk through before Superbowl 36. I'll wait until somebody credible reports it, even if he does have a crack in the foot he'll probably still be able to play through it anyway - at least I would hope so.

[Ninti the Mad]

cowboys

[Kris P Lettus]

are gay..

I finished you thought for you, Ninti..

[Ninti the Mad]

hater

[#1-norm-fan]

lol. :roll:

[RP]

Tatum Bell is a ninja

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3567561

[Gonzo]

lol read the interview and read how Tatum Bell talks. rofl

[Kris P Lettus]

Daunte Culpepper Retires From NFL

Posted Sep 4th 2008 11:39AM by Michael David Smith (author feed)
Filed under: Dolphins, Raiders, Vikings

Daunte Culpepper announced his retirement today after nine seasons in the NFL.

He expressed his frustrations with the NFL in his retirement letter:

When Free agency began this year, I had a new sense of excitement about continuing to rebuild my career in the same way that I had rebuilt my knee after my catastrophic injury in 2005. Unfortunately, what I found out was that the league did not share any of the optimism about me as an Unrestricted Free Agent that I expected. In fact, there was an overwhelming sense that there was no room for me among this year's group of quarterbacks; whether in a starting, competing or a back-up role. No matter what I did or said, there seemed to be a unified message from teams that I was not welcome to compete for one of the many jobs that were available at the quarterback position. It seems that the stance I took in both Minnesota and Miami regarding my rights as a person and player has followed me into Free Agency.


Culpepper was the Vikings' first-round draft pick in 1999 and spent seven seasons in Minnesota, playing in three Pro Bowls. He then played the 2006 season in Miami and the 2007 season in Oakland.


--------

It's pretty sad.. That knee injury completely fucked him.. So glad the Phins went after him instead of Brees..

[Boomer]

Maybe if he had shown some kind of promise, they would have shared his optimism.

I'm excited for some football tonight. Just hoping for a good game. I don't have cable, so any good game I can see with the channels I've got is fine by me.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I heard Culpepper turned down 1 million dollars to be a back up in Green Bay, so whatever

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah, he wants to be a starter..

I can see where he's coming from, just s few years removed from the Probowl and the cover of Madden..

[SammyG]

15 pages in, and Week 1 kicks off in an hour.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Tatum Bell is a ninja

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3567561

"I come to find out the bags weren't whose I thought they was."


THEY'RE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE.

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[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yeah, he wants to be a starter..

I can see where he's coming from, just s few years removed from the Probowl and the cover of Madden..

<a href="http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/08/29/an-open-letter-from-daunte-culpepper/">Not exactly</a>

[Gonzo]

Nice half by the Giants. I would have liked to see another TD instead of one of the three FGs but otherwise playing well on both sides of the ball. The closing minutes were a bit disappointing.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Real solid half. So glad football is back.</font> :love:

[Gonzo]

Room for improvement from the Giants, but all in all a solid ball game. Lets hope Kiwi is okay, saw him go down on that last play.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Kiwi walked off.....Chris Samuels needs to be fined. There was no reason to even run that play outside of trying to injure someone tbh.

Anywho, would've liked to have seen more scoring from the offense, but a win's a win.</font>

[Team Sheep]

Not a bad season opener. 2nd half was a bit dull but I couldn't care less, I'm so glad that it's back on my TV.

[OssMan]

Yeah!

[Evil Vito]

http://dest.tv/images/killdozer.gif

[Ninti the Mad]

Redskins are weak.

Look at their preseason stats and check how many TD's they made going back.

They made no TD's for about 2 games I believe. Nothing but field goals.

I actually thought the Giants would win by a larger margin.

[#1-norm-fan]

Good god, what a horribly coached game by Jim Zorn! One of the worst I've ever seen.

I thought Washington might be pretty bad judging from how abysmal they played in the final two preseason games but they just carried it right into the season. Run, run, pass, punt. Run, run, pass two yards short of the marker, punt. Run, run, pass two yards short of the marker, punt. Run, run, pass two yard short of the marker, punt. Not to mention how conservative they looked on D for the most part. I can't see them winning 4 games at this rate.

[Kris P Lettus]

Giants shouldv'e swacked them..

I mean, they were dominant in the first half, then giving them good field position and then the penalty, allowing them to score right before the half..

Then they almost gave up the game in the second half, giving the Skins numerous opportunities to score and only holding onto a 9 point lead.. Zorn is a fucking idiot though.. ZERO clock management skills in that last 2 mins.. I mean, he never called a time out, he didn't kick a FG when well in range, with like 30 seconds left.. In that position, you always kick the FG, then the onsides.. Atleast then you get a shot at winning.. By going for it, he completely killed any chance they had of winning..

Retarded..

[#1-norm-fan]

I didn't even get around to mentioning his horrible clock management. Madden and Michaels tried to chalk it up to inexperience. That can't be an excuse for the simple things. Clock management and play calling that is THAT horrific are just inexcusable. He's been around the game for a long time. It's not like they are coaching secrets you need to learn over time or something.

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah, the closest I've come to playing pro ball is playing Madden and I seemingly have 100% better clock management skills than Zorn..

[Gonzo]

Did it occur to anyone that they may have called the game that way because the Giants dominated the LOS?

[Team Sheep]

Yeah the Redskins game plan was pretty bad. That west coast crap isn't going to work in the NFC East. That division is all about smash mouth football, and they showed none of that. Working their way down the field with short gains out wide can work in the first and third quarters when you can eat up clock and tire out the defense, but not when there's 2 minutes left on the clock and you have to score twice, or when you're 3rd and 15 and you go for a short 5 yard pass. They did it again and again it didn't make sense. Why would you pass to a guy well before the marker on 3rd and long?! They could be forgiven if it was a one off but they did it time and time again, like robots who weren't programmed to do anything else.

Shame really because this Redskins team has a lot of potential.

[Kris P Lettus]

Did it occur to anyone that they may have called the game that way because the Giants dominated the LOS?

That has nothing to do with the piss poor clock management..

[Gonzo]

That has nothing to do with the piss poor clock management..

I was more so referring to #1-wwf-fans mention of the run, run, pass, punt bit. The clock management was terrible indeed. I feel bad for Campbell because of all the coaching systems he has been going through but you know what he is a Redskin, so fuck him.

[Kris P Lettus]

I heard they paid Strahan $75k to appear last night..

[Gonzo]

lol who did you hear that from?

[Kris P Lettus]

ESPN SportsCenter

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yeah the Redskins game plan was pretty bad. That west coast crap isn't going to work in the NFC East. That division is all about smash mouth football, and they showed none of that. Working their way down the field with short gains out wide can work in the first and third quarters when you can eat up clock and tire out the defense, but not when there's 2 minutes left on the clock and you have to score twice, or when you're 3rd and 15 and you go for a short 5 yard pass. They did it again and again it didn't make sense. Why would you pass to a guy well before the marker on 3rd and long?! They could be forgiven if it was a one off but they did it time and time again, like robots who weren't programmed to do anything else.

Shame really because this Redskins team has a lot of potential.

Hate to break it to you but the Eagles run the west coast offence.

[Team Sheep]

Hate to break it to you but the Eagles run the west coast offence.

Oh :$ my bad. I just think they're going away from their strengths a bit. They should stick with what they did in their late surge last season that got them into the playoffs. Wouldn't it have made sense to build on that for this season? If they'd kept their composure and didn't press the panic button so soon agasint the Seahwks last year, they could have easily got to the divisional round.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I agree to an extent. Gibbs built a team that he wanted to coach, and the players they have now aren't totally suited to what Zorn seems to want to do. Still, we'll see.

[#1-norm-fan]

Did it occur to anyone that they may have called the game that way because the Giants dominated the LOS?

So the solution to getting dominated at the line is to become predictable? Shotgun, quick pass... something. And on top of that, they actually protected much better as the game went along yet the play calling remained the same.

There is NO good reason to call a game like that. Period.

[Gonzo]

The Redskins did suffer from some vanilla playcalling, but also keep in mind this is the 7th different offensive system for Jason Campbell in 8 years. That has to be a real pain in the fucking ass. The Redskins' run game was held in check largely all game save a nice run or two, and the Giants defense was disruptive up front all game long. The Giants started to play a vanilla defense towards the end of the 3rd and into the 4th and let the Redskins have a lot underneath.

I feel bad for Jason Campbell. I think they are limited due to the implementation of another offense yet again. They might get the ball rolling sometime, but not for a few weeks at least.

[Gonzo]

I think they should of at least tried to get Cooley involved more. It appears from a fan POV that they did not. I don't know if the Giants gameplanned specifically against him to take him out but Cooley only had 1 catch.

[Kris P Lettus]

I'd be pissed if he was my starting TE on the FFL..

[RP]

Hate to break it to you but the Eagles run the west coast offence.

Whens the last time the Eagles won there division?

[Gonzo]

I'd be pissed if he was my starting TE on the FFL..

Boomer :lol: My opponent.

[SammyG]

Rams gonna beat the Eagles.

[Gonzo]

I hope so. I was watching some Steven Jackson highlights the other day. Dude is a tank.

[Team Sheep]

Whens the last time the Eagles won there division?

I was about to say the same thing but then realised they won it in 2006 lol. Only cause the Cowboys did their annual late fuck up though ;)

[SammyG]

I dunno. Have a really good feeling about Sunday's game. Avery is out, but whatever, Eagles have their top two wideouts out. Jus gotta focus on Westbrook.

[Boomer]

Boomer :lol: My opponent.

*shrug* I've spent years using scrubs at TE for fantasy leagues. Bubba Franks usually...so nothing new.

[Innovator]

I dunno. Have a really good feeling about Sunday's game. Avery is out, but whatever, Eagles have their top two wideouts out. Jus gotta focus on Westbrook.
so you're the one

[Innovator]

just saying Sammy, lotta people picking the Eagles this week

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

<font color=goldenrod>Kiwi walked off.....Chris Samuels needs to be fined. There was no reason to even run that play outside of trying to injure someone tbh.</font>I dunno I disagree. I think Samuels realized he got beat and just decided to hold in order to protect his QB from getting blind sided. I don't think he meant to roll up on Kiwi's ankle like that (he went right over to him right after it happened to make sure he was alright)

There was really no chance to change the outcome of the game with that play obviously, but you don't want the Redskins to just quit and lay down. That wouldn't exactly look very good.

[Gonzo]

Yeah I'm with Stima, you gotta expect them to give an effort, regardless of the fact that the game's outcome wasn't changing.

[Gonzo]

If you want to talk about fines, I forgot which OL it was but one of the Redskin players gave Antonio Pierce a head butt when he had no helmet on. Both players were guilty of getting into it but this guy clearly leaned in and bopped him with his facemask.

[SammyG]

just saying Sammy, lotta people picking the Eagles this week
And they should, but I'm confident enough in my team to pick them.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah I'm with Stima, you gotta expect them to give an effort, regardless of the fact that the game's outcome wasn't changing.Kiwi disagrees too, which is understandable I guess. He said there is no room for a play like that in professional football and if Samuels knew he was beat he should have just let Kiwi go then. He said something about how he got knocked down earlier in on the game (Clinton Portis BLEW him up when he was trying to pass rush) and Campbell should be able to handle getting knocked down too.

[Crimson]

Bring on the Brownies..I hope the Barbarian just steamrolls thru their defense

[Gonzo]

Kiwi disagrees too, which is understandable I guess. He said there is no room for a play like that in professional football and if Samuels knew he was beat he should have just let Kiwi go then. He said something about how he got knocked down earlier in on the game (Clinton Portis BLEW him up when he was trying to pass rush) and Campbell should be able to handle getting knocked down too.

Holy hell, yeah that was a hell of a 'chip'.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Too bad it was a useless block as Jason Campbell threw a 3 yard dump off pass on that play when it was 3rd and 8 lol

[Gonzo]

Yeah. It was on a garbage play. I think there was something heavy going on back and forth there though that caused Portis to lay into Kiwi like that. I think it might have been in retaliation. Brandon Jacobs and Marcus Washington were getting into almost every play beforehand.

[Kris P Lettus]

SO FUCKING READY

12 HOURS

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[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Jacobs absolutely trucked LeRon Landry in the game too I think before that hit but I dunno Portis is one of the better pass blocking running backs in the league. I think he just likes to lay dudes out.

Pretty happy football is finally back

[El Fangel]

Hold on, You guys started the season thread before the season started. BLASPHEMOUS!

[Kris P Lettus]

10 hours..

OMG

[El Fangel]

Krispy, a question

Are you planning on sleeping tonight, or even attempting to?

[Gonzo]

Jacobs absolutely trucked LeRon Landry in the game too I think before that hit but I dunno Portis is one of the better pass blocking running backs in the league. I think he just likes to lay dudes out.

Pretty happy football is finally back

Yeah they mentioned that while replaying the hit. Pretty awesome that football is back. Its the best time of the year for me personally. You know you're excited when you're talking about a chip block on an unimportant play in the first game of the season.

[Kris P Lettus]

Krispy, a question

Are you planning on sleeping tonight, or even attempting to?

I went and laid down and smoked a bowl, but then I saw that Die Hard was on.. Now I am back up for no apparent reason..

So, prolly not..

[El Fangel]

If you tell us you fell asleep 5 mins before kick-off I will die laughing.

[#1-norm-fan]

I'm so fucking juiced for tomorrow morning I can't sleep. Sundays are worth it again!!!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Being a Giants fan, it's hard to get overly psyched about today as they've already played...prolly gonna be flipping around to see the beginnings of any of the 1PM games on here before the Mets start at 2.

Next Sunday's gonna feel awesome tho</font> :cool:

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I've had trouble getting real amped up about the season or even talking that much about it. In fact this is the first time I've even posted in this thread. Just couldn't get excited with all the drama about the Bengals' offseason and how they're picked to finish 3rd or 4th and all that.

But now that it's here and there's actually something to watch I'm pretty pumped.

[Boomer]

MATTTTTT RYANNNNNNNNNNNN

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Matt Ryan would be the man if that TD would have been to Roddy White instead</font> :(

[Boomer]

Yeah I've got Roddy in fantasy league too. No matter.

[Boomer]

Yeah guys...the Falcons suck. They sure do.

-edit- I know we are facing the Lions, but come on. After last year I can't imagine a better start.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

What the hell is going on with Brady? I'm hearing he got jacked up pretty bad.

Please don't let it be true. :( :( :(

[FearedSanctity]

Had his leg planted to throw and one of the Chiefs lunged for his leg trying to sack him and hit his knee. Kinda just folded over, looked pretty bad

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Well if Brady's out for any length of time I lost that league.

...however, isn't it ironic that Brady goes down in the game where he's not listed on the injury report for the first time in like 4 years?</font> :o

[Crimson]

Wow..'the Burner' Turner is tearing it up. Brady left the game ,probably nothing serious..

[RP]

Yeah guys...the Falcons suck. They sure do.

-edit- I know we are facing the Lions, but come on. After last year I can't imagine a better start.

I picked the Falc Show to make the playoffs this year :cool:

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yeah guys...the Falcons suck. They sure do.

-edit- I know we are facing the Lions, but come on. After last year I can't imagine a better start.
not even halftime yet

[Supreme Olajuwon]

should've started Chris Johnson on my fantasy team :(

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Brady's hit could have been worse......still didn't look very good though...

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Gay, after all the big deal they made about how Ocho Cinco would have that on the back of his jersey...the NFL isn't letting him change it because of some issues that happen whenever a player changes his name or number.

Prolly has to do with jersey sales or something.</font>

[Boomer]

not even halftime yet

Games over now :D

[Ninti the Mad]

Superbowl curse for the Pats?

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Alright, update out of NE.


WEEI is reporting that Brady's MRI was clean, and it is most likely a sprained knee. No serious damage is reported, and Brady will possibly be out 2 - 3 weeks. No long term damage, it appears. And they have an easy few games coming up. Still think Cassel can handle the reigns for that long, especially since he did a pretty good job today. This is no problem for NE.

Working on getting a link to the info.

This is all tentative, by the way. I can not find a link to this yet, but I'm hearing it quite a bit. Will repost as soon as I find out something.

[U-Warrior]

Buffalo 34, Seattle 10.

Fuck yes.

[FearedSanctity]

Cassel did do good, but KC is pretty terrible

[RP]

lol Browns fans chanting Asshole when T.O caught that TD. One of the best asshole chants ever.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Why does it seem like almost every team in the league are wearing their white jerseys at home this year?</font> :o

[Innovator]

Why does it seem like almost every team in the league are wearing their white jerseys at home this year? :o
They usually do in September when it's still hot

[Big Fat Mike]

lol @ Chad Pennington.

But why do the Jets not even attempt to get a first down on that last drive? Is everyone on the sideline really worried that Favre was going to throw a pick-6?

Also, it's still hot as balls, Vito. White uniforms retain less heat.

[Innovator]

While I hate the Cowboys, my fantasy team, the Mean Street Posse, loves Marion Barber

[Nervous Ferret]

It's going to be a good year.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I figured heat had something to do with all the white uniforms, but even the Saints were wearing white while in a dome so it seemed a bit weird.

Come to think, I think the G-Men are the only team in the NFC East that don't wear white at home year round...the other teams only wear other colors at home when it's their mandatory once-a-year alternate uni</font>

[D Mac]

There was clearly pass interference on that last play in the Chiefs game.

We got screwed. :mad:

[OssMan]

Joe Flacco 38 yard TD run? What?

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Joe Flacco 38 yard TD run? What?

yeah, he pulled some kind of a fake play. apparently it came out of nowhere too.

[Ninti the Mad]

felix jones

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Down to a min in my Panthers game, win lose or draw I'll take this effort with us not having Smith.

Let's go Panthers!

[HeartBreakMan2k]

HOLY SHIT! LAST FUCKING SECOND! TOUCHDOWN PANTHERS!

[ClockShot]

BAH GAWD! STUNNER IN SAN DIEGO!

[RP]

SOMEBODY NEED TO COME OUT HERE AND PUT A STOP TO THIS! THIS ISNT RIGHT! BAH GAWDDDDDDDDDDDDD THIS ISNT RIGHT KING!

[UmbrellaCorporation]

LOL CHARGERS

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>LOL Chargers</font>

[HeartBreakMan2k]

BAH GAWD! THROUGH HELL FIRE AND BRIMSTONE THE PANTHERS HAVE DONE IT KING! THE PANTHERS HAVE DONE IT!

[UmbrellaCorporation]

New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady is expected to miss the rest of the 2008 season with what two sources described as a severe injury to his left knee, suffered in the first quarter of the Pats’ 17-10 victory over the Kansas City Chiefs at Gillette Stadium Sunday.

While New England coach Bill Belichick said in his postgame press conference that he had no update on the status of Brady’s injury, a source close to the quarterback indicated it involved serious damage to the knee. That could include a torn anterior cruciate ligament and perhaps other ligament and cartilage damage.

“It’s bad,” a team source said. “We’re going to have to play without him.”

Brady was hurt as he stepped up in the pocket to make a throw to wideout Randy Moss. Chiefs safety Bernard Pollard, who was on the ground, lunged forward and struck Brady’s leg, which buckled as he released the ball.

Brady was helped off the field and was later led down a staircase by team officials, presumably to undergo tests.

Fourth-year quarterback Matt Cassel, who had thrown just 39 passes in his career before Sunday, replaced Brady and completed 13 of 18 passes for 152 yards and a touchdown. Cassel, who backed up Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart at USC, hasn’t been a starting quarterback since high school. He won a competition with Matt Gutierrez during the preseason to retain the job as Brady’s primary backup.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-bradyoutforyear090708&prov=yhoo&type=lgns


SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT


Then again...an MRI is scheduled for tomorrow, so disregard my earlier post. Since a proper test hasn't been done yet, this can not be confirmed at this time.

[LoDownM]

Looks like we did the rest of the league a favor.


On a side note. I completely forgot the season started today...

[Team Sheep]

So glad the Jets got off to a winning start. Wasn't the prettiest of games, and we should have finished Miami off a lot sooner tbh. We made hard work of it at the end. But fuck it, we won.

I quite fancy our chances next week.

[VonErichLives]

yeah, there are a bunch of ACL reports... but nothin team confirmed...

I did find it funny a Boston Herald Reporter sited Brett Favre as a source "I heard Brady injured his ACL"...

anyway, Cassell didn't look bad (of course it was against KC) and how often do Moss and Welker fumble? take those away and they could have been up more...

that being said, replace Brady with Cassell this is probably a 8-10 win team in a dog fight for the division.

Who said football wasn't fun?

I did joke with a friend today "If Cassell does real well and they win a super bowl do they trade Brady in the off-season to the bills for a 2nd round pick like Bledsoe?"

[MVP]

Man, I hope that MRI turns out to be negative. Probably not gonna happen though. :(

[Crimson]

I hate the Pats and all but I don't want Brady injured, kinda takes the fun out of their games. I want them goin down with no excuses.

[Crimson]

lol Bungals

[Crimson]

lol @ the Browns playoff hopes

[SammyG]

...

That's all I have to say.

[U-Warrior]

AFC East just got real interesting.

[ClockShot]

Chargers go down. Chefs go down. Denver's gonna be all alone atop the AFC west after week 1 wraps up.

Bring on Monday!

[UmbrellaCorporation]

It is official.

Brady is out for the entire season.

www.nfl.com

...I don't think I have to post a link to the story. You'll see what I mean when you get there.

[RP]

Bears just seem like they're gunna give up a big play.

[Triple A]

Fucking Brady. Kinda makes me feel terrible for some reason. I dunno why but it does.

NY Jets Super Bowl champions

[Kris P Lettus]

Saints D stepped up without our best player on the field.. The rotation at CB, the whole LB corp and the D-Line were impressive..

That pick fucked up their rhythm but a hard fought divisional win..

[RP]

Peyton will win this game!

[Crimson]

..or not

[Crimson]

Colts,Pats, Chargers all lookin shaky..here comes Pittsburgh.

[SammyG]

Wow, Bears up 16 late.

[RP]

i'm swick serioulsy

[RP]

way to conservitive of a game plan. No running game. The defense couldnt hold on 3rd down. I'm worried.

[RP]

bears just flat outnplayed better then us

[SammyG]

Wowwwwwww, what an upset. God Damn.

[FearedSanctity]

lol at NFL.com having a banner AND picture that say pretty much the exact same thing

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I really hope it was the MCL and not the ACL, if its the ACL I think somebody's gotta give Daunte Culpepper a jingle...

Fucking blows though, first week of the season and the Patriots chances of winning a Superbowl are potentially over already.

[Skippord]

god I hate when the Broncos open on Monday

doesn't feel like football's back and I have to go to school

[Ninti the Mad]

Superbowl curssssssssssssse for the Pats

[Triple A]

Wow, Pats, Chargers, and Colts all not looking very good.

INTERESTING.

[CSL]

I really hope it was the MCL and not the ACL, if its the ACL I think somebody's gotta give Daunte Culpepper a jingle...

Fucking blows though, first week of the season and the Patriots chances of winning a Superbowl are potentially over already.

You never know. Things didn't go too badly the last time your star QB went down early in the season and an unheralded backup came in for the rest of the year

[Ninti the Mad]

Cowboys and Eagles looked fantastic.

Next Monday.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

You never know. Things didn't go too badly the last time your star QB went down early in the season and an unheralded backup came in for the rest of the year
Yeah but I remember seeing Brady play in the preseason before he ever started a meaningful game and I thought "Wow this guy is pretty good" When Cassel played this year in the preseason I thought "Wow this guy is pretty bad." Hopefully I am wrong but I highly doubt lightning will strike twice, Cassel could end up being pretty average but I think that will be about it.

Maybe Maroney will finally step up and be a big time consistent running back now?

[D Mac]

Some people were saying that tackle that put Brady out was dirty. That's fucking stupid. Pollard had a Patriot on top of him and was just trying to ankle tackle Brady.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Anytime a QB gets hit low like that people are gonna say its dirty. I don't think it was.

I really don't see how his knee is all tore up from the hit, it looked bad but it didn't look as bad as a lot of others I've seen. Like if his foot was planted in the turf the whole time I could see his knee being ruined but it seemed like it slipped off the turf at the last second. Holding out hope its not as bad as everyone is projecting right now

[Loose Cannon]

been saying it all week to people. Favre to Cotchery for the bomb and bam, TD baby

[Loose Cannon]

I love Pennington and all, but I forgot what it was like to have a QB that can launch it deep into the endzone. nice to have.

[Nervous Ferret]

Chad Pennington is the greatest human of all time. I was half rooting for him on that last drive

[Loose Cannon]

yea I know. it was classic Penninton. I felt like I was watching the New York Jets play the New York Jets at the end

[Kris P Lettus]

Wow, Pats, Chargers, and Colts all not looking very good.

INTERESTING.

This might be the year the power swings back to the NFC..

[DrA]

When was the last time the Colts and Patriots lost in the same week?

[DrA]

Week 14 of the 2006 season.

Not quite as impressive as I thought it was going to be.

[Kris P Lettus]

lol

[SammyG]

Scared shitless again today, Pace went out holding his arm, but he is ok.

Bennett AKA PIECE OF SHIT, is hurt again, major sprained vagina or something, and Little is hurt again. Why do we have such terrible luck with injuries. Why is my team so terrible. EVERY YEAR. Fire Linehan. Please.

At least I have my Dodgers :)

[DaveWadding]

Scared shitless again today, Pace went out holding his arm, but he is ok.

Bennett AKA PIECE OF SHIT, is hurt again, major sprained vagina or something, and Little is hurt again. Why do we have such terrible luck with injuries. Why is my team so terrible. EVERY YEAR. Fire Linehan. Please.

At least I have my Dodgers :)

Because they fucking suck.

Also, the D'Backs fucking suck :nono:

[SammyG]

Like, wtf, our line isn't that bad talent wise, but the opposing team can rush Bulger any time they want. Also, Jackson is the man for taking that hit today and holding on to the ball.

[Nervous Ferret]

yeahhh jetssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[DrA]

Alright guys, for you betters out there, I am making Minnesota over Green Bay as my Shoe-In of the week.

Furthermore, Oakland over Denver is going to be my Lock of the Week.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

What % of the time are you correct DrA? So I can try to figure out what % of the time you are incorrect.

[VonErichLives]

Some people were saying that tackle that put Brady out was dirty. That's fucking stupid. Pollard had a Patriot on top of him and was just trying to ankle tackle Brady.

It wasn't dirty, but in fairness it's the same thing Wilfork got fined for last year (falling forward player on on him).

When was the last time the Colts and Patriots lost in the same week?

Yeah, the Pats won without one of the best QB in the league, and the Colts lost with one of the best QB in the league, I think the colts will be fine, Manning may just needed a game to get his "game legs" back.

and assuming Addai doesn't have a serious concussion that lasts all year, they'll be fine.

As for the Pats, yeah, Cassell has never looked good, but wasn't bad yesterday and I don't see Moss and Welker fumbling that often in a game.

Don't forget they still also have an easy schedule... 10-6 wouldn't shock me... but yeah, once the playoffs hit thats a different ball game...

Alright guys, for you betters out there, I am making Minnesota over Green Bay as my Shoe-In of the week.

Furthermore, Oakland over Denver is going to be my Lock of the Week.

ok, what is the difference between your "shoe-in" and your "lock" and what was the spread when you made those?

A friend of mine wanted Lions -3 this weekend, I liked the Falcons so rather then placing the bet I took it myself... nice getting the juice :)

[Hanso Amore]

Buffalo simply destroyed the Seahawks. They arent nearly as good as they were a few years ago, but they are still a playoff favorite, so good win.

Favre got lucky, those bullshit blind tossups wont work every game.

Bill vs Jets for the AFC east.

[Triple A]

Cowboys -6 over Browns was prob the lock of the week.

Also Jets -3 over Dolphins and Chiefs given +15 1/2 in the Pats game. Easy

[UmbrellaCorporation]

bears just flat outnplayed better then us

I dunno what was up with Peyton, and, well...the Colts in general last night. Maybe it was just opening night jitters or something, but I dunno, cause he's never had trouble before or anything.


Ugggggh, fuck the Bears.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

ok, what is the difference between your "shoe-in" and your "lock" and what was the spread when you made those?

Unless I'm really off the ball he was making a Simpsons reference.

[VonErichLives]

Cowboys -6 over Browns was prob the lock of the week.

Also Jets -3 over Dolphins and Chiefs given +15 1/2 in the Pats game. Easy

take away brady getting hurt, don't think Chiefs + 15 & 1/2 was a lock... especially what that offense did last year...

I thought Atl +3 at home vs. the Lions was a lock... made me a few bucks... nothing big.

[Reavant]

Bills to the Superbowl

[Y2Ant]

Alright guys, for you betters out there, I am making Minnesota over Green Bay as my Shoe-In of the week.

Furthermore, Oakland over Denver is going to be my Lock of the Week.

Simpsons :cool:

Fucking Bion beating me to it :mad:

[SammyG]

Bills are mad good.

[Nervous Ferret]

There is no such thing as a lock.

[DrA]

I never said a Shoe-In was a lock.

[DrA]

I never said a Lock was a Shoe-In.

[Loose Cannon]

these Raider fans with the scary looking Halloween masks are hillarious because now they are all depressed, but still wearing these ridiculous masks and custumes. it's like you can tell these sorry people have been preparing for this game since Sept 2007 and here are their Raiders down 41-7. :rofl:

[Skippord]

I know it was the Raiders but Eddie Fucking Royal!

[SammyG]

Yeah, that game was painful to watch. The Rams can beat the Raiders by 14 at least, I am confident in that, too bad we don't play em.

We get the GIANTS next week instead. Awesome.

[U-Warrior]

Buffalo simply destroyed the Seahawks. They arent nearly as good as they were a few years ago, but they are still a playoff favorite, so good win.

Favre got lucky, those bullshit blind tossups wont work every game.

Bill vs Jets for the AFC east.

Dunno, wouldn't count the Pats out so easily. With all the depth on that team, they're still favorite even without Brady. Only difference now, is that the Bills and Jets have a greater chance at the upset.

And lets settle down a bit on Seattle. They were missing three key players, and a fourth went down mid game.

[DaveWadding]

Like, wtf, our line isn't that bad talent wise, but the opposing team can rush Bulger any time they want. Also, Jackson is the man for taking that hit today and holding on to the ball.

Line sucks dude. Pace is getting old. the interior of the line is even worse. Barron is fine, but I really wanted Jake Long. Long + Barron would have =ed ratings.

[DaveWadding]

Also, LOL Faiders

[Mr. Monday Morning]

HOW BOUT THAT DEANGELO HALL

[VonErichLives]

just think... if Favre was patient he could have been in a Patriot uniform now... and finally gotten his wish to throw to Randy Moss...

[DrA]

Not necessarily. If that were to have happened then it would have changed the direction of many specific universal implications, meaning that Tom Brady may not have gotten hurt at all.

[Nervous Ferret]

'The fallacy of the presumed assumption' - Michael Kay

[ClockShot]

Paging Mr. Young.

[ClockShot]

And Lights Out is out for the season.

[Kris P Lettus]

He should have not played sunday..

Saints insiders are saying Colston tore a ligament in his hand.. Might be out for up to 4 weeks..

:(

[SammyG]

lol Merriman, douchebag.

[VonErichLives]

just think... if Favre was patient he could have been in a Patriot uniform now... and finally gotten his wish to throw to Randy Moss...

Not necessarily.

hence why I said "could" not "would"...

in fairness Belicheck seems to have something for Cassell... plus he's learned this system for 2yrs... (I forget if this is year 2 or 3 for him)...

we'll find out....

If they bring anyone in, I honestly think it will be Vinny T, yeah, he's old... but he's worked with Belicheck before and he would be a good vet presence to help Cassell... and if needed to play has a better arm then Simms or Rattay or "I retired a week to soon" Culpepper.

[VonErichLives]

the pats DB's worry me more then the play of Cassell to be honest...

[McLegend]

I really want to be exicted about the Eagles/Rams game on Sunday, but it was against the Rams.

So I have to hold back.

[McLegend]

But it was still fuckin great.

[SammyG]

Stop it.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

If it makes you feel any better Sammy the Seahawks looked like turd as well, so the Rams might actually have a chance to beat them.

Of course at this point you're all behind the mighty Cardinals (lol)

[VonErichLives]

so, they didn't work out Simms or Rattay, both were in monday but neither worked out.

interesting that apperently they set-up these meetings on Saturday....

that aside, they just signed Rickey Guetierez to the practice squad.

[Kris P Lettus]

[QUOTE=Kris P Lettus;2278636]

Saints insiders are saying Colston tore a ligament in his hand.. Might be out for up to 4 weeks..

:([/QUOTE

Hasn't been confirmed by the Saints official injury report but yeah, he's supposed to miss 4-6 weeks..

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80ab1303&template=with-video&confirm=true

:(

[Kris P Lettus]

Vince Young is gonna pull a Rampage Jackson..