MLB 2009 Season Thread

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Pujols is now at 28 HRs, 29 Ks. Ridiculous

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yo Stima, Dodgers would be leading any division in the AL right now..lol I would hope so, they are playing terrible competition on a consistent basis. Only 2 teams in the NL right now have 40 wins, 6 in the AL with 40 or more

[RatedGSuperstar]

lol I would hope so, they are playing terrible competition on a consistent basis. Only 2 teams in the NL right now have 40 wins, 6 in the AL with 40 or more

That's a little misleading. With Milwaukee's win tonight, there are 3 NL teams with 40 wins now, with San Francisco at 39 and Colorado and Florida at 38. Texas and the Angels are barely at that 40 win marker. It's not like there's some huge disparity between the two leagues' win total.

I'll give you that the AL is the better league, but it's not really fair to call the Dodgers' competition horrible when 2 of the NL's top 3 teams in the wildcard race are out of the West. At this point you could argue the West has been the best division in the NL after the entire Central crapped the bed over the past few weeks.

[Triple Naitch]

Cardinals land Mark DeRosa for Chris Perez.

[Dragon]

Brett Gardner had more hits yesterday than the Mets team has had this entire series. Thought that was interesting.

[Fig Newton]

derosa was an absolute steal for the cardinals in todays deal

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

That's a little misleading. With Milwaukee's win tonight, there are 3 NL teams with 40 wins now, with San Francisco at 39 and Colorado and Florida at 38. Texas and the Angels are barely at that 40 win marker. It's not like there's some huge disparity between the two leagues' win total.

I'll give you that the AL is the better league, but it's not really fair to call the Dodgers' competition horrible when 2 of the NL's top 3 teams in the wildcard race are out of the West. At this point you could argue the West has been the best division in the NL after the entire Central crapped the bed over the past few weeks.Yeah that's true w/ the 40 win thing, I just looked at it real quick and noticed that. NL West may have a wildcard contender or two in it but if you put the 2nd place team in the NL West in the AL East right now they would be fifth.

NL Central isn't even the worst though, NL East this year is awful - standings wise at least. Mets are barely .500 right now and are only 1.5 games back from 1st

[Evil Vito]

derosa was an absolute steal for the cardinals in todays deal

<font color=goldenrod>Actually, most articles I've read have said that the Cards overpaid for a rental player, as Perez was their closer of the future.

Would have loved to see the Mets get him but the Indians wanted Bobby Parnell and another minor leaguer...I really think/hope Bobby can turn it around, I hope his recent struggles have been due to a dead arm period.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Funniest thing about the Indians though - one of the clowns on Baseball Tonight picked the Indians to be in the World Series. Think it was Kruk.</font>

[DaveWadding]

The Indians are always a huge surprise or a giant disappointment. No in between.

[YOUR Hero]

The Indians are always a huge surprise or a giant disappointment. No in between.

That's a true statement.

[DaveWadding]

Love that Arizona defense! Didn't think it was possible for a pitcher to give up 8 runs and only have 3 of them earned...but there it is.

[YOUR Hero]

Last night's Little League Homerun was something else too.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wang's gonna get his first win against the Mets...typical. (it's only the top of the 3rd but I'm already willing to call that he will win)</font>

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

You gotta be one of the least optimistic people on here

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>It's hard to be optimistic when you are throwing out the kind of lineup they are. :o

As I've said, though...if they can limit their gap between them and the Phillies long enough for reinforcements to arrive after the AS break (Beltran and Reyes around or just after the AS break, Delgado hopefully not too long after that, Maine and Perez pretty soon, Putz and maybe even Wagner in August)...they've definitely got a shot.</font>

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I was talking about this game, it's 3-2 now and Hernandez has faced the minimum since the 1st inning.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Hernandez has been great but the first inning might be his undoing. I just have no faith in this lineup at all.

Mets are gonna need to hold it here and score in the 8th cause they aren't gonna score off of a fired up Mo going for #500.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I swear to fucking God I would fine my players every time they struck out looking in a big spot.</font>

[Innovator]

MARIANO WITH AN RBI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Loose Cannon]

Rivera gets to add an RBI to his career stats

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Not even gonna bother with the bottom of the 9th. What a laughingstock.

Thank fuck the hellhole of interleague play is over tomorrow.</font>

[Innovator]

Pretty surreal seeing K-Rod pitch to Mariano Rivera...and walking him

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah. Honestly, that just signifies even further that every phase of the Yankees is better than the Mets. Everything.</font>

[Innovator]

I can't wait to listen to Joe and Evan tomorrow morning

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Seriously though...K-Rod's entire season is ruined from this. He'll still put up the numbers, but that AB will be what everyone remembers. :(

I really need to stop caring so much about a game.</font> :o

[Innovator]

9 walks in the last 4 innings is pretty ridiculous

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Howard Johnson really needs to get shitcanned. The hitters have such horrible habits. In big spots they either strike out looking or swing at the first pitch. Ridiculous.

Well, congrats Mo. He will always be the greatest closer in baseball history...at least until cyborgs can play baseball in the future.</font>

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

AL with a better winning percentage again in Interleague play, 136 wins to the NL's 114.

[Dragon]

Nice, Mariano with his 500th career save and his first career RBI.

[ClockShot]

WANG WINS HIS FIRST GAME!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Shittiest part about the Mets' situation right now is that they are in absolutely no position to make a trade. Everybody in the league knows they are banged up to a ridiculous extent...and so they will ask for an arm and a leg from the Mets.

Bobby Parnell's been requested by every team the Mets try to trade with. He's been bad lately, but still...do you really wanna trade your 24-year old, 96 MPH throwing set-up man for a bat that still might not even be enough? Omar's in a really tough spot.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>In other news, Phil Rogers is even more of a retard than Jay Mariotti:</font>

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-29-rogers-chicago-jun29,0,3124193.column

[Boomer]

The Braves might have the best rotation in baseball. One of the better bullpens too.

The Braves definitely have one of the worst offenses in baseball.

[Testicle]

I'm surprised how competitive the Tigers are this year after how bad last year was for them, unfourtunitly if they made the playoffs they would probably get squashed by the Sox, but oh well.

[Testicle]

Also Pujols is the best hitter of the decade.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Take this with a grain of salt, but:

http://rotoinfo.com/read_article.php?articleId=318

It's only rumored...but I don't really see why someone would just list 103 guys randomly. Not gonna believe it till it's confirmed from a reputable source.

If by some chance it's true though, holy shit.

No Piazza.</font> :love:

[McLegend]

A lot of Red Sox

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wait nvm, Jason Grimsley isn't there which throws the whole thing out the window since we already know he failed a 2003 test.

Wish they'd release the real list.</font>

[McLegend]

And Bobby Abreu

[RatedGSuperstar]

I remember something similar "leaking" when the Mitchell Report came out, and they got like 5 names right. It's not all that hard to come up with a list of guys who you could see juicing, and there are way too many big names on that list for me to believe.

[SammyG]

MANNY'S BAAACK

[ClockShot]

And trades keep on coming.

Yankees aquire Eric Hinske from the Pirates for right-hander Casey Erickson and outfielder Eric Fryer. In addition, the Pirates will give the Yankees cash.

So my Bronx Brothers, what say you?

[ClockShot]

Pirates also make a deal with the Nationals.

Sending Nyjer Morgan and Sean Burnett in exchange for Lastings Milledge and Joel Hanrahan.

[Hanso Amore]

Pirates also make a deal with the Nationals.

Sending Nyjer Morgan and Sean Burnett in exchange for Lastings Milledge and Joel Hanrahan.

Seems like a bad trade for the pirates...its lateral move...and milledge has become a joke.

Good move for the Yanks...didnt give up much and essentially replace Nady. Hinske is an alright bench bat and can play first.

[RatedGSuperstar]

Nyjer Morgan isn't a very good player, and Burnett's an meh reliever. Milledge is still young enough to have potential, which is more than you can say for Morgan. Hanrahan's got good stuff but it looks like he lost his control this year...a change of scenery probably does him good.

Deadspin confirms what we all knew...the "list of 103" is a bunch of bull: http://deadspin.com/5304675/why-the-new-alleged-steroids-list-is-a-crock

[Loose Cannon]

Kerry Wood and Mark Prior on that list :lol:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Morgan's pretty good I think...much older than Milledge though and he played hockey before starting baseball so he could be pretty beaten down.

I remember being really depressed when the Mets traded Milledge for Church and Schneider. Church and Schneider have been pretty meh...but I'm glad that headcase Milledge is gone.</font>

[OssMan]

Lastings Milledge to the Pirates YESSSS time to get another Milledge shirt.

[parkmania]

Milledge... blech
Hanrahan... who?

Morgan is a good OF with decent speed, and Burnett is average at best.

Pirates trade average for well below. AGAIN! Proof positive that the Pirates front office is a case of "meet the new boss, same as the old boss."



Hinske's a journeyman (how else would he have come to the Pirates?), and I don't have any idea about Erickson or Fryer. Anyone fill me in?

[ClockShot]

Couple of nobodys from the A farm.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Fernando Martinez just dug up a divet in the outfield, doing a prat fall and giving the Brewers a gift double. I seriously can't believe this.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>...I can't even speak anymore.

I really think I'm done with baseball for this season.</font>

[Heros Welcome]

Vito, that error filled inside the park grand slam pretty much summed up the way our season is going. I couldn't help but laugh because it has become so bad.

[Innovator]

Vito, that error filled inside the park grand slam pretty much summed up the way our season is going. I couldn't help but laugh because it has become so bad.
WHAWHAWHAAAAAAAAAT?

[RatedGSuperstar]

Ryan Braun up with the bases loaded against Johan Santana. After stupidly flailing at the first two pitches of the at-bat and barely fouling them off, he sends another low one into deep left over the head of Sheffield and off the wall. Pitcher Mike Burns scores from third, Corey Hart scores from second, and J.J. Hardy scores from first after the throw home gets away from the catcher. Braun takes a huge turn around third when he sees the ball get away and is stuck in no man's land. Santana (backing up home plate on the throw) fires the ball over to third to try to get Braun, but the ball sails over David Wright into left field and Braun scores easily.

Actually a double and an error, but essentially a Little League grand slam, where you just keep running while the other team throws the ball around the diamond. I am sure the play will be on SportsCenter (as well as F-Mart falling down in center two batters before).

[Innovator]

HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHES

[Innovator]

Ryan Braun up with the bases loaded against Johan Santana. After stupidly flailing at the first two pitches of the at-bat and barely fouling them off, he sends another low one into deep left over the head of Sheffield and off the wall. Pitcher Mike Burns scores from third, Corey Hart scores from second, and J.J. Hardy scores from first after the throw home gets away from the catcher. Braun takes a huge turn around third when he sees the ball get away and is stuck in no man's land. Santana (backing up home plate on the throw) fires the ball over to third to try to get Braun, but the ball sails over David Wright into left field and Braun scores easily.

Actually a double and an error, but essentially a Little League grand slam, where you just keep running while the other team throws the ball around the diamond. I am sure the play will be on SportsCenter (as well as F-Mart falling down in center two batters before).
Wooooooow, that has Not Top 10 written all over it

[Innovator]

What was that?

AN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAABOMB

FROM AAAAAAAAAAAROD

[Droford]

The Orioles were down 10-1 to the Red Sox in the 7th inning and have managed to make it 10-9 with 2 on and 1 out in the 8th and Papelbon coming in for the 5 out save.

This could quite possibly be one of the greatest comebacks I have ever witnessed.

Markakis triple off Papelbon! O's up 11-10! Amazing!

[Innovator]

pleeeeeeease hit Papelbon, I love seeing him get lit up

[Dragon]

Yankees win again and the Red Sox blow a 9 run lead. Pretty perfect day.

[SammyG]

Come on Dodgers..

[ClockShot]

Thanks, O's.

[Evil Vito]

http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2009/7/1/4241113.html

<font color=goldenrod>So true. :o SO many horrifying losses and it's only just turned July.</font>

[ClockShot]

It looks like the battle between Clemens and McNamee is coming to a close.

Texas judge affirmed his decision to toss most of the claims in Clemens' anit-defamation suit against McNamee.

McNamee is gonna file his own against Clemens in the near future.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I don't think the Mets should be written off just yet. You have 1/2 of your infield, 2/5 of your rotation, your CF, and your 8th inning guy on the DL (4 of them All Stars). And yet you're only 3 games out of 1st. In the past 5 games you've had 4 different guys batting leadoff.

Plus it looks like this is the most wide open NL Wild Card race there has been since it started in 95. Look at the teams in front of the Mets. The Giants, Rockies, Marlins, and Reds are all super young teams with a ton of question marks and very little knowledge about winning in September or October. And the Cardinals always look impressive but they often don't hit their stride. The Mets could very easily overtake all of them and the Phillies once they're healthy.

So buck up, buckaroo.

[Innovator]

It's amazing the Mets are still in a race the way they are playing. If the Phillies turned it on, there wouldn't be a race in September

[McLegend]

Phillies kind of suck right now.

[Evil Vito]

I don't think the Mets should be written off just yet. You have 1/2 of your infield, 2/5 of your rotation, your CF, and your 8th inning guy on the DL (4 of them All Stars). And yet you're only 3 games out of 1st. In the past 5 games you've had 4 different guys batting leadoff.

Plus it looks like this is the most wide open NL Wild Card race there has been since it started in 95. Look at the teams in front of the Mets. The Giants, Rockies, Marlins, and Reds are all super young teams with a ton of question marks and very little knowledge about winning in September or October. And the Cardinals always look impressive but they often don't hit their stride. The Mets could very easily overtake all of them and the Phillies once they're healthy.

So buck up, buckaroo.

<font color=goldenrod>The injuries are a factor, no doubt. They still do have a chance, it's just these last 6 or so games have been so error-ridden, it's almost unwatchable. :o Seeing Johan Santana, a guy who has a chance at winning the NL Gold Glove now that Maddux is gone, throw the ball into the outfield did me in last night. :(

I pretty much agree with everything Matt Cerrone said here:

http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/01/opinion-why-i-have-hope-why-im-skeptical/#more-37820

I will say though, if they get swept in Philly this weekend it's gonna be a HUGE blow.</font>

[Gertner]

Ricky Romero. Wow, what a performance!

[Gertner]

And trades keep on coming.

Yankees aquire Eric Hinske from the Pirates for right-hander Casey Erickson and outfielder Eric Fryer. In addition, the Pirates will give the Yankees cash.

So my Bronx Brothers, what say you?

so lard-ass is a Yank. Better keep him away from the hot dog carts.

[RatedGSuperstar]

Gallardo strikes out 12 Mets and loses, 1-0. That's Santana-like right there.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah feels good to be on the winning end of one of those for once.</font>

[RatedGSuperstar]

Fuck the Cardinals.

[SammyG]

WOOOOOO MANNY is officially back

[YOUR Hero]

The Pirates won that deal if Milledge gets his shit together. It was well worth the risk. Hanrahan could be a closer too. Nats had him as theirs this year but he failed. If he slides into the 8th inning spot as a set up man this and next year (and does well) the Bucs suddenly only have to play 7 innings. I think Pittsburgh has made some wise moves this year.

[Innovator]

Milledge will never get his shit together

[Triple Naitch]

How are the Pirates ever going to tell the difference between Lastings Milledge and Andrew McCutchen?

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/images/headshot_46400.jpg http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/images/headshot_45451.jpg

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Manny is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ClockShot]

Woooooooooooo. International signing period starts today.

As expected, the Yankees get their man by signing Gary Sanchez.

But the big target out there is now Cuban defect Aroldlis Chapman.

[ClockShot]

Another trade.

Cubs aquire Jeff Baker from the Rockies in exchange for Alberto Alberquerque.

To make room, Cubs DFA Ryan Freel.

[Innovator]

As we give back Kei Igawa? Any takers?

[ClockShot]

As we give back Kei Igawa? Any takers?

Fat chance. Then again trade deadline is looming, maybe we can finally unload him.

[Triple Naitch]

Fat chance. Then again trade deadline is looming, maybe we can finally unload him.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Mets signed lefty pitcher Juan Urbina, son of Ugueth.</font>

[Hanso Amore]

Didnt get axe murder someone?

[Skippord]

Another trade.

Cubs aquire Jeff Baker from the Rockies in exchange for Alberto Alberquerque.

To make room, Cubs DFA Ryan Freel.
Bake :(

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I LOVE Joey Votto

[Supreme Olajuwon]

average up to .366 after today

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Mets come all the way back from a 5-0 deficit with a spirited rally in their anemic lineup...lead the Pirates 8-6, and K-Rod gives up a 2 run HR to Adam LaRoche before even getting an out, and they only have one pitcher left in the bullpen after this.

Fuck.</font> :(

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Church :love:

Mets win it, back to .500, though K-Rod won't be available tomorrow. Huge series coming up.</font>

[Big Fat Mike]

lol, you're a Mets fan.

[ClockShot]

Bad game last night.

[Nervous Ferret]

lol the kids dressed as umpires from Toronto are sitting behind home plate again at Yankee Stadium

[ClockShot]

lol the kids dressed as umpires from Toronto are sitting behind home plate again at Yankee Stadium

Tickets must have cost them a fortune.

That. And somebody throw them out.

[DaveWadding]

MANNY'S BACK!!!!!!!!!

Now, Samuel G will bend over and suck his own cock. Yay.

[RatedGSuperstar]

Seriously, people need to stop pitching to Albert Pujols. Walking him with the bases loaded is a smarter move than letting him hit a grand slam. He needs to start getting the Bonds treatment.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>As smart of a move as it is to walk Pujols...I really would be pissed if he got the Bonds treatment. :( He's way too much fun to watch hit. If people keep pitching to him I bet he'll get over 61 HR, which would make him the new single season home run record holder.</font>

[parkmania]

Mark HgHgwire and Barry "I changed my workout regime after leaving Pittsburgh" Bonds would disagree with that 61 mark, Vito.

[Evil Vito]

Mark HgHgwire and Barry "I changed my workout regime after leaving Pittsburgh" Bonds would disagree with that 61 mark, Vito.

<font color=goldenrod>Who?

Anyway, I know we discussed this on Memorial Day, but fuck those red hats. Last year's dark blue ones were at least a neutral color that didn't look totally retarded on most teams.

Seeing the Mets play in Philly with those made me think the whole team got traded.</font>

[RatedGSuperstar]

I'd be hesitant to call Pujols the new home run king if he surpasses 61 this year. There's no guarantee he's clean, and his personal trainer does have ties to HGH (mentioned by Jason Grimsley (http://deadspin.com/179400/so--weve-got-some-affidavit-names) in 2006 as a guy who hooked him up).

[ClockShot]

Oh no.

[SammyG]

Manny HR!

[ClockShot]

Took us 12 but we beat the great Halladay. Hope this injury with Wang isn't serious. He was having a pretty good game.

Also, thanks Seattle.

[ClockShot]

Wang to the DL. :roll:

Girardi says Hughes ain't gonna fill the spot, but names going around are Aceves, Mitre, or Albaladejo.

[RatedGSuperstar]

All-Star rosters announced today...pretty sure there will be a number of injury replacements and pitcher replacements due to guys throwing the weekend before the game.

NL starters:
C Yadier Molina (STL)
1B Albert Pujols (STL)
2B Chase Utley (PHI)
3B David Wright (NYM)
SS Hanley Ramirez (FLA)
OF Ryan Braun (MIL)
OF Carlos Beltran (NYM)
OF Raul Ibanez (PHI)

NL reserves:
C Brian McCann (ATL)
1B Prince Fielder (MIL)
1B Adrian Gonzalez (SD)
1B Ryan Howard (PHI)
2B Orlando Hudson (LAD)
2B Freddy Sanchez (PIT)
3B Ryan Zimmerman (WAS)
SS Miguel Tejada (HOU)
OF Hunter Pence (HOU)
OF Braw Hawpe (COL)
OF Justin Upton (ARI)

NL pitchers:
SP Chad Billingsley (LAD)
SP Matt Cain (SF)
SP Dan Haren (ARI)
SP Josh Johnson (FLA)
SP Ted Lilly (CHC)
SP Tim Lincecum (SF)
SP Jason Marquis (COL)
SP Johan Santana (NYM)
RP Heath Bell (SD)
RP Jonathan Broxton (LAD)
RP Francisco Cordero (CIN)
RP Ryan Franklin (STL)
RP Francisco Rodriguez (NYM)

NL Final Vote Candidates:
Cristian Guzman (WAS)
Matt Kemp (LAD)
Mark Reynolds (ARI)
Pablo Sandoval (SF)
Shane Victorino (PHI)

AL starters:
C Joe Mauer (MIN)
1B Mark Teixeira (NYY)
2B Dustin Pedroia (BOS)
3B Evan Longoria (TB)
SS Derek Jeter (NYY)
OF Jason Bay (BOS)
OF Josh Hamilton (TEX)
OF Ichiro Suzuki (SEA)

AL reserves:
C Victor Martinez (CLE)
1B Justin Morneau (MIN)
1B Kevin Youkilis (BOS)
2B Aaron Hill (TOR)
3B Michael Young (TEX)
SS Jason Bartlett (TB)
OF Carl Crawford (TB)
OF Curtis Granderson (DET)
OF Torii Hunter (LAA)
OF Adam Jones (BAL)
OF Ben Zobrist (TB)

AL pitchers:
SP Josh Beckett (BOS)
SP Mark Buehrle (CHW)
SP Zack Greinke (KC)
SP Roy Halladay (TOR)
SP Felix Hernandez (SEA)
SP Edwin Jackson (DET)
SP Justin Verlander (DET)
SP Tim Wakefield (BOS)
RP Andrew Bailey (OAK)
RP Brian Fuentes (LAA)
RP Joe Nathan (MIN)
RP Jonathan Papelbon (BOS)
RP Mariano Rivera (NYY)

AL Final Vote candidates:
Chone Figgins (LAA)
Brandon Inge (DET)
Ian Kinsler (TEX)
Adam Lind (TOR)
Carlos Pena (TB)

[DaveWadding]

Updog made it :love:

[Dragon]

Wang to the DL. :roll:

Girardi says Hughes ain't gonna fill the spot, but names going around are Aceves, Mitre, or Albaladejo.

I think they said they don't wanna mess with the bullpen so I'd assume Hughes and Aceves are out. Which is kind of ridiculous considering they are our best two options by far. Seeing Mitre and Igawa pitching and making our bullpen useless on those days should be fun though.

I don't really understand since Hughes needs innings this year and there is an open spot in the rotation. They should stretch him out and put him back in the rotation.

I really hope it doesn't turn into Joba version 2 with Hughes.

[Dragon]

Maybe they will go with Aceves after today. 4 innings of 1 hit ball so he got stretched out a bit.

[ClockShot]

Nice. Tex beat out Youkilis for the 1B spot.

But old man Tim Wakefield goes to his first All-Star game. Hats off.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Glad to see Santana in there despite the recent bad stretch/bad luck.

Swept in Philly...had a realllllly bad feeling that was coming. :-\ Now the Dodgers are rolling in. Kinda screwed.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Actually going on Tuesday...I'm more excited that I'm gonna get to see Manny live than I am of seeing the Mets</font> :o

[Triple Naitch]

Updog made it :love:

[Triple Naitch]

My picks for starting pitchers and last spots.

AL Pitcher: Zack Greinke
NL Pitcher: Tim Lincecum

AL Reserve: Adam Lind
NL Reserve: Mark Reynolds

[DaveWadding]

My picks for starting pitchers and last spots.

AL Pitcher: Zack Greinke
NL Pitcher: <s>Tim Lincecum</s> Dan Haren

AL Reserve: <s>Adam Lind</s> Ian Kinsler
NL Reserve: Mark Reynolds

[OssMan]

Why the fuck is K-Rod in the all star game. He sucks. Vote Cristian Guzman

[Hanso Amore]

Cano should have made it.

[Innovator]

Got back from the game. Sat in the batter's eye seats above Monument Park. Fucking amazing stadium, foods awesome.

That and Nick Swisher might be the most beloved Yankee in recent time, behind Jeter. He does a full turn and a salute for the roll call

[Loose Cannon]

how much was the total bill for today?

[Gertner]

K Wadding, Kinsler is friggen batting .256. Lind is hitting 54 points higher and
Lind has 1 fewer homer and 6 more rbi's than Kinsler.

[Gertner]

Cano should have made it.

Who would he made it in front of? Surely not Aaron Hill. Pedoria got voted in by fans, and Aaron Hill has had a better year than Cano.

[Innovator]

how much was the total bill for today?
tickets were free, got them from girlfriend's mom as a gift. I think they were 125 though.

Parking was 19

Souvinier soda 6, another one 5, hot dog 5.

Best two parts were that I was two sections over from the creatures. Other part was when Tex hit one to the warning track in dead center, 60 MORE FEET and it was mine

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Timmy Wakes baby

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Ryan Howard makes another All Star team and Adam Dunn can't even make the final 5 vote. There is no justice in this world.

[RatedGSuperstar]

Yeah, Howard making the team is pretty iffy considering how many first basemen were already on the roster. I don't think he makes it if he's not from St. Louis and his manager wasn't picking teams. Dunn should've made it for the sole purpose of competing in the Home Run Derby. Same goes for Russell Branyan.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with injury replacements. Usually more than one guy from the final ballot ends up getting in anyway due to injuries. The NL starting outfield alone may need 2 replacements, and at least 1.

Still trying to figure out how Jason Marquis got named to the game, too. He has 10 wins, but that's the only impressive number he has right now. He's literally not striking anyone out and is far from dominant. I realize that Charlie Manuel said he was putting an emphasis on pitchers who would be able to pitch in the game, but the fact that he made the team over a guy like Yovani Gallardo or Johnny Cueto is ridiculous.

[Hanso Amore]

Who would he made it in front of? Surely not Aaron Hill. Pedoria got voted in by fans, and Aaron Hill has had a better year than Cano.

Hill deserves to be there of course, but so does Cano...He should have made it over Granderson, who really doesnt deserve his spot.

[Hanso Amore]

Yeah, Howard making the team is pretty iffy considering how many first basemen were already on the roster. I don't think he makes it if he's not from St. Louis and his manager wasn't picking teams. Dunn should've made it for the sole purpose of competing in the Home Run Derby. Same goes for Russell Branyan.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with injury replacements. Usually more than one guy from the final ballot ends up getting in anyway due to injuries. The NL starting outfield alone may need 2 replacements, and at least 1.

Still trying to figure out how Jason Marquis got named to the game, too. He has 10 wins, but that's the only impressive number he has right now. He's literally not striking anyone out and is far from dominant. I realize that Charlie Manuel said he was putting an emphasis on pitchers who would be able to pitch in the game, but the fact that he made the team over a guy like Yovani Gallardo or Johnny Cueto is ridiculous.

I thought anyone could be in the home run derby these days, regardless of being an all star?

[Gertner]

Hill deserves to be there of course, but so does Cano...He should have made it over Granderson, who really doesnt deserve his spot.

I 100% agree with Granderson not being there. That was ridiculous.

[Evil Vito]

Why the fuck is K-Rod in the all star game. He sucks. Vote Cristian Guzman

<font color=goldenrod>Why do you hate K-Rod so much? He's only blown three saves - and of those, one was Castillo's fault and another the Mets ended up winning and he "closed" it out the next inning unofficially. So really he's only cost the Mets one game this year. If anything, he's the most deserving Met in there as Beltran has missed time, Wright has been K'ing a TON, and Johan's had a few bad starts laced with bad luck.

Anyway the NL rosters are pretty stupid in terms of the bench. 3 1B on the bench? Everyone seems to be calling for Pujols to play the whole game (or at least more than half) in St. Louis, so that means the other guys will just be used as pinch hitters. Howard really shouldn't be there at the expense of some of the guys left off...but Charlie Manuel prolly did it as a favor.</font> :roll:

[Hanso Amore]

Is it in an AL stadium?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Adrian Gonzalez says he wants to do the home run derby. Nice. He's got some serious power

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Is it in an AL stadium?
St. Louis

[RatedGSuperstar]

Adrian Gonzalez says he wants to do the home run derby. Nice. He's got some serious power

Pujols and Prince Fielder have both been saying they're in for weeks, too. Should be a blast compared to years past, especially considering the new Busch Stadium is a lot more hitter-friendly than some other parks in recent history (San Francisco, Pittsburgh, Detroit, etc).

[Hanso Amore]

Will Hamilton be back off the DL in time to defend his crown?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Well if you'll recall, Hamilton didn't win last year. Morneau did.

[Hanso Amore]

Im a fucking twit.

[Hanso Amore]

But he did own the night.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Indeed he did.

I really hope they allow non All Stars in the derby because guys like Adam Dunn, Russel Branyan, Mark Reynolds, and Carlos Pena (if he doesn't get in) could really put on a show.

[Hanso Amore]

Has Dunn ever been in a Derby? Seems like the dude is fucking built solely for that purpose.

[DaveWadding]

K Wadding, Kinsler is friggen batting .256. Lind is hitting 54 points higher and
Lind has 1 fewer homer and 6 more rbi's than Kinsler.

and the AL needs another outfielder as much as you need more X.

[DaveWadding]

that said, I think that Kemp and Victorino will both make it regardless with the injuries to Beltran/Ibanez. so you guys should Vote Mark Reynolds in Final Vote.

[RP]

Mark Reynolds is carrying my fantasy baseball money league team. Him and Hanley.

[Adder]

Where's Eckstein??

[RatedGSuperstar]

Not enough gritty gamer-ness this year, apparently.

[OssMan]

lol

[OssMan]

Why do you hate K-Rod so much? He's only blown three saves - and of those, one was Castillo's fault and another the Mets ended up winning and he "closed" it out the next inning unofficially. So really he's only cost the Mets one game this year. If anything, he's the most deserving Met in there as Beltran has missed time, Wright has been K'ing a TON, and Johan's had a few bad starts laced with bad luck.

Anyway the NL rosters are pretty stupid in terms of the bench. 3 1B on the bench? Everyone seems to be calling for Pujols to play the whole game (or at least more than half) in St. Louis, so that means the other guys will just be used as pinch hitters. Howard really shouldn't be there at the expense of some of the guys left off...but Charlie Manuel prolly did it as a favor. :roll:
I have always hated K-Rod. His stupid delivery and him falling off the mound half way to first base after every pitch and his "aggressiveness" that just seems so stupid. And that one time he was in the middle of blowing a save with the Angels and threw a bad pitch or something and swatted at the ball with his glove when the catcher threw it back and ended up allowing the winning run from 3rd to score. Hate him so much. And those stupid goggles he used to wear. Just one of those players I can't stand.

[OssMan]

LOL @ Albert Pujols 82 RBI on July 6. WTF

[ClockShot]

Royals aquire Ryan Freel from the Cubs for cash and a player to be named later.

Kip Wells is a free agent is anybody is interested.

The news of the day, if you want to call it news. The Phillies are gonna watch Pedro Martinez throw tomorrow in the Domican Republic.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Holy shit, the MetsBlog fan confidence rating has reached its lowest point since the end of 2004...before Omar Minaya was hired as GM.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3507/3698440792_918ea689d1_o.gif

Pretty telling from a fanbase perspective. :o Seeing how high it got in 2006 makes me nostalgic...feels more and more like that was the Mets' year to win. Instead, all I have is the image of Beltran striking out looking. And I hate how you can clearly pinpoint the 2007 and 2008 collapses on that chart.</font> :(

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Fucking hell, even SportsCenter just did a Top 10 2009 Mets blunders list from this season today...laughingstocks of baseball.

I'm going to tonight's game with some buddies...I'm more excited at the prospect of seeing Manny live than I am of seeing the Mets.</font>

[SammyG]

As you should be.

Anyway. So, Dodgers gonna win the WS. Just sayin'.

[ClockShot]

Bad day to be a Reds fan today.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>And the 4 NL first basemen are going to be in the HR Derby. Gonzalez, Pujols, Howard, Fielder.

Wonder who's going for the AL. I'd have to think Morneau will get a chance to retain his crown.</font>

[ClockShot]

Morneau to defend is a good choice. Teixeira and Longoria might say yes. Hamilton is still rehabbing his shoulder. I wouldn't mind Crawford either.

[Dragon]

I know Teixeira already said he wasn't going to do it.

Looking forward to see those 4 NL guys compete in the derby.

[McLegend]

Blue Jays will listen to offers for Roy Halladay.

I'll gladly give up 3 prospects for him.

[ClockShot]

Ahhhhhhhh. Damn you, Carlos Gomez.

Then again, that's a pretty short wall.

[Innovator]

AW AW AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW

[ClockShot]

Blue Jays will listen to offers for Roy Halladay.

I'll gladly give up 3 prospects for him.

He doesn't just want prospects. They want like 1-2 of your best. And that GM is crazy if he's willing to give up his golden goose.

[McLegend]

He doesn't just want prospects. They want like 1-2 of your best. And that GM is crazy if he's willing to give up his golden goose.

I would gladly give up Shane Victorino or Jayson Werth as well.

[Innovator]

Think the Jays would do a Halladay for a DLed Wang trade straight up?

[McLegend]

In a heartbeat.

[ClockShot]

Think the Jays would do a Halladay for a DLed Wang trade straight up?

Wang could be fixed. No doubt Joba will be in any trade one way or another. Kennedy, perhaps?

Phillies were asking about him. But Cashman didn't like what he was getting.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Woooooo Brandon Phillips :love:

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Reds outscored 25-5 in the series so far but still 1-1

[SammyG]

lol Mets haven't scored in 22 innings. Manny got ejected. Dodgers win 8-0.

[ClockShot]

Justin Morneau ain't gonna defend his HR Derby crown.

Strangely, it's taking a while for the AL team to be announced. Nobody want to participate this year?

[Hanso Amore]

Its going to end up being like Aaron Hill, Evan Longoria, Torii Hunter and Adam Jones.

No big Power names....although those guys have good pop.

[The Pope]

Vote For Mark Reynolds ......link

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2009/fv/ballot.html

[DaveBrawl]

Last night may have been the best game Alan Embree has ever "pitched".

[Gertner]

B.J Ryan got his release today from the Jays. Can't say I'm going to lose sleep over this.

[SammyG]

If Halladay came to LA, that would be amazing.

[Droford]

B.J Ryan got his release today from the Jays. Can't say I'm going to lose sleep over this.

The amazing thing is that they are still on the hook for $10 million next year and half of his $10 million this year. When he left the Os a couple years ago for the money I was kinda upset but it just proves Closers are a dime a dozen and not worth huge contracts no matter how great they are.

[The Pope]

B.J Ryan got his release today from the Jays. Can't say I'm going to lose sleep over this.

Who is Blow Job Ryan

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Mets actually...WON? :eek:

Amazing play by Daniel Murphy at 1B. Simply amazing.</font>

[Gonzo]

God damn Mets, hopefully they can make it to the end of July and spark something...

[The Pope]

Dan Haren is kickin ass

[SammyG]

What a play at first by that Met.

[YOUR Hero]

Jays still have some of The Big Hurt's contract on the books too.

[Gertner]

ugh J.P signs some horrible contracts: Big Hurt, B.J, Wells, Hinske.

[Hanso Amore]

THose arent that bad...they all could have gotten the same, or more, money from at least 10 other GMs.

[The Pope]

You know who's cantract really sucks.
Arizona:
Eric Byrnes avg:around .200 $10 million a year
Chris Young avg:around .180 $8.3 million a year

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Nice box score for the Yankees today. 8 guys each get 1 hit.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>According to Candela Deportiva, free agent RHP Pedro Martinez has signed a one-year, $4 million deal with the Phillies.

Now just waiting for Ken Rosenthal, Buster Olney, or Jon Heyman to confirm it.</font>

[ClockShot]

Nice box score for the Yankees today. 8 guys each get 1 hit.

Yeah. Swisher got lost looking for the dance hall today.

In other news, Lenny Dykstra is broke.

[ClockShot]

Brandon Inge and Shane Victorino get the last spots on their All-Star squads.

[Skippord]

I was not expecting those two

[DaveWadding]

Victorino would have gone anyways...cause someone has to replace Beltran, and Charlie Manuel has a hard on for his boys.

[McLegend]

You can do that when you win a World series.

[SammyG]

lol Mets

[YOUR Hero]

Yeah. Swisher got lost looking for the dance hall today.

In other news, Lenny Dykstra is broke.

Yeah heard about Dykstra. Sad news. Do these guys never splurge on a financial advisor?

[Hanso Amore]

Yankees

Tied for First

Fuck yeah

[Dragon]

Am I missing something with Tim Wakefield? I just saw a poll on ESPN about who the best pitcher in baseball was this season and the guys were Halladay, Lincecum, Greinke, Haren....and then Wakefield with 10% of the votes. Haren got 4%.

Doesn't even seem like he's close to being the best on his own team.

[Loose Cannon]

I have to see his numbers and the team's he's faced

[Loose Cannon]

just looked. it looks like he's just pitching his average stuff if you compare to the last few years. The only thing that stands out is the Wins and you'll know how the MLB loves Wins.

[ClockShot]

The Yanks have dispatched Mark Melancon to aid in L.A/Anaheim tonight since Girardi burned through the bullpen last night.

We can play the guessing game on who's going back to SWB or lower.

[Heros Welcome]

Ryan Church heading to the Braves for Jeff Francoeur

Eh. I'm 50 50 on the deal right now. There the same player, both very good defensive players with plus arms. French is younger at 25 yrs old. Just gotta hope a change of scenery can spark french to what he was his first 3 yrs up in the bigs.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Honestly, I love Church...but it's worth a shot. Anything to shake up the roster.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Also, Charlie Manuel gives a big FU to the Final Vote guys that didn't win.

Beltran is out...so rather than filling the spot with Matt Kemp (or hell, any of the other three final vote guys) like they usually do when players pull out...Manuel is bringing another one of his own players, Jayson Werth. Gay.</font>

[OssMan]

Ryan Church heading to the Braves for Jeff Francoeur

Eh. I'm 50 50 on the deal right now. There the same player, both very good defensive players with plus arms. French is younger at 25 yrs old. Just gotta hope a change of scenery can spark french to what he was his first 3 yrs up in the bigs.
No see this is the kind of shit I can't deal with. Can't fucking root for any more former Braves/Yankees/players I hate. Francoeur was probably in my top 10 baseball players I hate the most. The fucking dude who hit 30 HR and 100 RBI with an OBP of like .280.

[Loose Cannon]

dam, was hoping for a Vito blowup about the Church deal :(

[Supreme Olajuwon]

no idea how Phillips gets credited with stealing home

he was out by 5 feet if Wright doesn't throw it away

[ClockShot]

Royals aquire Yuniesky Betancourt from the Mariners for cash and a couple of minor league pitchers.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

no idea how Phillips gets credited with stealing home

he was out by 5 feet if Wright doesn't throw it awayProbably some dumb baseball rule, much like not being able to assume a double play

[RatedGSuperstar]

Milwaukee's bullpen has been driving me crazy the past couple days. They were so good for so long, but have completely fallen apart in late June/early July. Second time in two days the bullpen's blown what should've been morale-boosting wins.

[YOUR Hero]

No hitter by ....


Jonathan Sanchez. If I'm even spelling that correctly. Giants VS Padres. Had a perfect game into the 8th.

[DaveWadding]

Haren Complete Game 4 Hit Shutout. The man needs to start the ASG.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Juan Uribe is the worst teammate ever.

[Dragon]

Pretty sloppy game for the Yankees today. Kinda looked like the Mets out there. 2 errors that both led to 3-run home runs. For some reason these games always happen against the Angels.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

You could almost see that Morales homerun coming. And he crushed that thing too.

[SammyG]

MATT KEMP SHOW

[Evil Vito]

dam, was hoping for a Vito blowup about the Church deal :(

<font color=goldenrod>Nah. The Mets offense has been absolutely putrid. Three shutouts in the last five days. They sat on their hands when they first got injured all over, because every team asked for a shitload from them because they were desperate. And after lately, that demand only went up.

So, it's now basically pointless to trade prospects for any big bat...because one big bat isn't going to fix this team right now, and their farm system is barren enough as it is. Francoeur is a project. I don't know how it will work out.

I have no doubt the guy will drive me crazy since he's shown zero signs of plate discipline or growth in five years in terms of his free-swinging. And I read somewhere that in all of his years in professional baseball, he's only put up an OBP of .350 or higher once...in rookie ball, at age 18. He's 25 now.

I dunno. Like I said, I was definitely a Ryan Church fan...but if the Jeff Francoeur of 2005/6/7 can come back, the Mets win this deal.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Nelson Cruz added to the AL All Star team, replacing Torii Hunter.

Cruz also threw his name into the hat for possible HR Derby participating. Mauer and Inge are the only two confirmed AL guys so far.</font>

[ClockShot]

According to the formula of Pettitte as of late, this should be a good game for him.

Hopefully little Weaver shouldn't be a problem for us.

[ClockShot]

:lol:

Angel Berroa only has to drive over the RFK bridge to find work. Mets sign him after the Yankees DFA him.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Nice win tonight. Jerry Manuel was on the money. While the offense has been bad, the pitching has been even worse. The offense just needs to get a few timely hits to have a chance to win so long as the pitching is superb like it was tonight.

Hopefully they can wrap up the first half by winning a series...something they haven't done in over two weeks.</font> :o

[RatedGSuperstar]

I'm confused. A Brewers starting pitcher left the game with a lead and the Brewers managed to keep the other team from scoring. Is that allowed?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>LOL Joe Maddon did the same thing. Pedroia is out of the ASG so rather than bring in Kinsler, he's bringing in Carlos Pena.

At least Pena was another Final Vote guy, though.</font>

[YOUR Hero]

I'm confused. A Brewers starting pitcher left the game with a lead and the Brewers managed to keep the other team from scoring. Is that allowed?

As a Jays fan, I too wonder this quite often.

[YOUR Hero]

Thankfully once it gets to extra innings, I know it means an automatic loss for the Blue Jays. Some type of crazy MLB rule I guess.

[YOUR Hero]

- So the Rays backup catcher came in last night and was chaged with a catchers balk.

Never heard/seen that before

[Evil Vito]

- So the Rays backup catcher came in last night and was chaged with a catchers balk.

Never heard/seen that before

<font color=goldenrod>Yep, he touched the ball with his mask (he was holding his mask in his hand). You aren't allowed to touch the ball with any piece of clothing not in its normal spot.

Guess that explains why nobody has tried to catch a ball in his hat during a blowout.</font> :(

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Trevor Hoffman and Zach Duke replace Jonathon Broxton and Matt Cain on the NL team. Wonder if Hoffman will blow it again like he did in 2006.

2 Pirates on the team. lol.</font>

[SammyG]

Same amount of Pirates, as Dodgers... come on

[Boomer]

No love for Braves pitching whatsoever, but I'd rather them get the rest anyway.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Mets nearly squander a 7-0 lead. Woulda been a crippling defeat heading into the break.

Glad to get a series win, and they ended their power drought. A bit deflating that the Phillies have stopped losing at home, so the Mets really gained no ground at all, and are still 6.5 out...but eh. Hopefully after a couple days off they can play respectably until the calvary arrives.</font>

[ClockShot]

This is pathetic. What is it about playing the Angels in L.A?

[ClockShot]

Carlos Pena, Nelson Cruz, Brandon Inge, and Joe Mauer represent the AL for the Home Run Derby.

Meh. Pena just got added today and Inge a couple days ago. I'm willing to assume that nobody on the AL side wanted anything to do with it this year since the roster got released this late.

[Triple Naitch]

I got Mauer and Pujols on my fantasy team. If the HRD kills their swing, I will be a sad panda. :(

[SammyG]

24 games over .500 at the All Star Break? I guess I'll take it.

So, people told me to STFU until the Dodgers still had a good record at the all-star break... well, can I brag now?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Mariners prospect Jamie McOwen just had his hitting streak snapped at 45 games. Wow

[Skippord]

LOL Joe Maddon did the same thing. Pedroia is out of the ASG so rather than bring in Kinsler, he's bringing in Carlos Pena.

At least Pena was another Final Vote guy, though.
Kinsler has been exhausted lately so he may not have wanted to come

I like the Texas Rangers a lot

[DaveWadding]

fucking hate Dugh Davis. Gonna be glad when the DBacks trade him. Jahsh Jahnson is pretty fucking great though. Amazing to watch up close.

[DAMN iNATOR]

A.L. will dominate the All-Star Game, as usual.:y::yes:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>AL hasn't dominated the ASG for a few years now...they barely squeak by. That being said, I'm guessing AL wins another close one and a Phillies player strikes out in a pinch-hitting role to end the game, making Manuel look like a huge homer.

Thankfully, the home field advantage rule hasn't made a difference since it started as the WS has gone 3-3 since it was put into effect. Of course, two of the NL's WS wins were depressing for me as I hate the Phillies and seeing the Cards win the WS just made me think "if only the Mets coulda won Game 7..."

And in other news, the Nats finally fire Manny Acta</font>

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

24 games over .500 at the All Star Break? I guess I'll take it.

So, people told me to STFU until the Dodgers still had a good record at the all-star break... well, can I brag now?Yeah they are the half way point World Series champs

Thanks to Nick Swisher blowing it with the bases loaded against the Angles the Red Sox increase their lead to 3 in the AL East. Got a feeling its gonna stay tight all the way down to the end though.

[Hanso Amore]

Yeah they are the half way point World Series champs

Thanks to Nick Swisher blowing it with the bases loaded against the Angles the Red Sox increase their lead to 3 in the AL East. Got a feeling its gonna stay tight all the way down to the end though.

Oliveer made a good play on swisher....I attribute the loss more to A Rod grounding into a double play with the bases loaded the inning before...or Teix whiffing with them loaded right before that. They went from bases loaded with no outs, to scoring nothing....

[Hanso Amore]

Also, 3rd base was open for Swisher, after Cano tagged on the jorge sac fly.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Just realized Miguel Cabrera didn't make the all star team

[Supreme Olajuwon]

First Half Awards

American League:
MVP: Jason Bay
Cy Young: Zack Greinke
Rookie: Andrew Bailey
Manager: Don Wakamatsu

National League:
MVP: Albert Pujols
Cy Young: Dan Haren
Rookie: J.A. Happ
Manager: Joe Torre

yup

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Think Joe Mauer has had a better first half than Bay, although Bay has been huge for the Red Sox this year.

Can't argue with Pujols though, almost had the 1st half tripe crown

[Hanso Amore]

I really wish they could wipe the record of all the roid users, so Pujols could be chasing 62. We need something amazing like that again.

[Emperor Smeat]

The only problem with that idea is nobody knows exactly how far back steroids in baseball has been occurring. You could go by stats or by player appearances but if the San Diego Chargers of the early 1960s are considered the 1st roid team, you have to figure it is possible steroids or enhancements could be older. That and it seems every few years new stuff that was once legal to use becomes illegal in sports.

Best would be to just use an asterix or have a note saying this record occured during a known steroid era.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Think Joe Mauer has had a better first half than Bay, although Bay has been huge for the Red Sox this year.

Can't argue with Pujols though, almost had the 1st half tripe crown
Yeah, Mauer has been the best player in the AL. But factoring in that Mauer missed 25 games and that the Twins are in 3rd place, I thought Bay was more deserving.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Fielder with a 503 foot blast tonight. Awesome.

Also watched the Celebrity/Legends Softball game. Nelly made a pretty sick diving catch in the outfield and also hit a 2-run dinger. Also, Bobby Knight played 1B and argued over a call.</font>

[YOUR Hero]

I'd say Halladay is more deserving than Grienke.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yes, and I think Votto is more deserving than Pujols. That's the beauty of being a homer.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Big blow to the AL squad. Evan Longoria is sitting out with an infection in his right ring finger. :o Sounds like a hilarious injury tbh. Probably fingerbanged some South Tampa girls.

Michael Young slides into the starting 3B spot (no late inning heroics from him then) and Chone Figgins has been added to the roster.</font>

[Jeritron]

http://partmule.com/Uploads/pedro_imposter_down.jpg