Football Talk 2005-2006 (Soccer)

[yianni]

KING THEO ZAGORAKIS HAS RETURNED TO PAOK SALONIA

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:love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

[yianni]

Rumours have it that Ljungberg has signed for Olympiakos.

[The Mackem]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/funny_old_game/4703639.stm

[yianni]

:lol:!

[toxic rooster]

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Whoever wrote that was pissed

[toxic rooster]

However it does contain lambda so it's not all bad :love:

[yianni]

MANCHESTER UNITED

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Joey Barton has been sent home from Man City's pre season tour in Asia for brawling with Richard Dunne and a 15 year old Everton fan :|

that boy is a twat

Also, we've signed Sander Westerveld :cool:!</font>

[Danny Electric]

Sander :)

[Doink]

Westervelt has signed for pompy

Boro and Bolton are apparently chasing Fernando Couto however he has stated there is interest but he wont go unless he gets the same/better deal than he is on at lazio!

Cant see where we would fit him in with Southgate,Riggott, Ugo, Cooper and the youngsters we have comming through, Taylor, Wheater, Bates and also Querdrue has been earmarked for a centreback role and Pogetez can play there aswell (will prob have to wait 24 weeks to find that out though)

I know Riggot is injured at moment as is Bates so Couto could only be as cover for us unless he can play in midfield in a holding role or something. I dunno I just cant see where he would fit in and his age is defo against him.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Rather like asking why on earth you would bid for Boa Morte (speculation at this time admittedly) when you have Yakubu, Viduka, Hasselbaink, Job, Nemeth and Maccarone.

Anyway, slightly more interesting news:

Five bids have been submitted to host the European Championships in 2012.

Joint bids from Croatia/Hungary and Poland/Ukraine have been made to UEFA with Greece, Italy and Turkey also launching individual campaigns to host the championships in seven years' time.

Croatia/Hungary are the early favourites - Hungary narrowly lost to Austria/Switzerland in the contest to host the 2008 finals and UEFA members are keen to see the championships hosted in eastern Europe.

UEFA's executive committee will reduce the number of candidates to three on November 7 this year and then make a final decision in December 2006.

----

Outside of the occasional European game I've no idea what the facilities are like in Croatia/Hungary or Poland/Ukraine...out of all of them Italy is surely the best prepared at this point. I really dunno what a tournament in Turkey would be like, Greece would be interesting though. Colourful, at the very least.

[Wengerland]

I consider Boa Morte to be more of a left winger anyway, but even then Boro have Downing, so it seems weird.

I heard Theo might buy PAOK after he retires :eek:!

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I hope Croatia and Hungary get it, then i'll go. Ill be like "fuck the Olympics" and go to Croatia for a few weeks.</font>

[Danny Electric]

I'll join you on a piss up Owen.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">getting pissed with the Iran fans :cool:</font>

[Danny Electric]

I want to go watch Iran next year in the World Cup.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I hope Croatia and Hungary get it, then i'll go. Ill be like "fuck the Olympics" and go to Croatia for a few weeks.
Me too. It'd be great.

Thought Scotland and Ireland might apply again, now that Croke Park is open to "English games."

[Nervous Ferret]

So what is happening with the Malcom Glazer thing?

[Mike the Metal Ed]

KING THEO ZAGORAKIS HAS RETURNED TO PAOK SALONIA

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:love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

THEO! :love: Think PAOK will mind if we loan him for 2 years or so? :shifty:

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Inter have cancelled their pre season tour of England against Palace, Pompey, Leicester and Norwich because of security fears what with the London bombings and all.

Pussies.</font>

[Wengerland]

Gay, i was looking forward to that. Fucking terrorists

[yianni]

lol what bollocks by Inter, pussies. Go on just let your fans chuck flares at players you cunts. :nono:

Wengerland, didn't know that about Theo, where did you hear that? He is a fucking legend at PAOK, they will fire up this season with him there. Still won't win the league but they'll give it a shake I reckon. They may possibly win the Cup, they always have a good run in that competition, with Theo there they'll be strong in it. :cool:

Mike the Metal Ed, no chance buddy. ;)

[Mike the Metal Ed]

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:'(

[Wengerland]

It was on the sky sports website i think, when the rumour came up. Only a few days ago so i'll find the link. Seems to just be started by the site though.

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/transfernews.asp?type=article&id=293301

Midfielder Theo Zagorakis is set for a return to his homeland, having been released by Italian side Bologna.

The Greece captain, who led his side to European Championship glory last summer, is close to signing for former club PAOK Thessaloniki.

If, as expected, Zagorakis pens a two-year deal it will mean the former Leicester City player finishing his player career at the club he first left some seven and a half years ago.

Zagorakis's close association with PAOK may even prompt the player to decide to buy the club once he hangs up his boots.

[yianni]

:eek:!

Legend!

Cheers for the link. :y:

[Rob Ban Fan]

"It's different for us than the other clubs, they are in breach of a transfer agreement by not coming. It's pathetic, we are in the suburbs while England play Australia in central London. If they don't come, they're gonna get sued. It's cowardly. They're going to allow terrorists to dictate the way that people conduct themselves. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact. They could fly into Croydon. THere's no bombs going off in South London, Norwich, Portsmouth, Leicester. The emergency services stuff is an excuse - if the police felt this was too much they would say so. I'm angry on 3 fronts - I spent a million pound on a player who only played 27 minutes and now they pull out, I'm angry as they have messed up our centenary celebrations, and I'm angry as a Londoner. They are going to get sued, this is a sad indictment of sport, when you've got footballers refusing to play in a city where people on minimum wage are prepared to carry on. We were told yesterday that South American players wouldn't come, now we are told it's club officials. This is not a terrorist hot target, this is not the West of London, I think perhaps they are taking this opportunity because they didn't want to come anyway. We encourage people to come anyway, as we will try and put something else on. If their bravery on the pitch reflects their bravery off it it probably wouldn't have been a very good game anyway."

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Palace Chairman Simon Jordan on Sky Sports News :lol:

Apparently as part of the deal they did for Sorondo and Ventola they agreed a friendly and signed a contract.</font>

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Good old Jordan, shooting his mouth off again. Hope he does sue them though that'd be fucking hilarious.

[Dazz]

Jordan's a cunt, he tried to have a pop at Chelsea last season, I forget what it was about but it had no bearing on his shit little club.

And to make up for the last two weeks I'd like to say a few things...

Cisse is certainly not shit

Their was no intention from Balde

RBF's gay

SHAUNY WRIGHT WRIGHT WRIGHT

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Cisse is shit.

[Dazz]

He was Liverpool's best player Vs us in October, I bet he scores some crackers next season, including one where he delightfully nutmegs Dickie Dunne and rifles it in for his hat trick.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

You'd probably think Linford Christie is brilliant, seeing as they just have to be fast and black for you to think they are great. Never mind technique, finishing ability etc.

[Dazz]

What is that based on? You made that up in your head and posted it because it sounded good.

Cisse had a great long ranger shot Vs Chelsea, and if I remember correct it was their only good shot that day, he has power and a great shot, every attacker misses chances, Cisse is no different, but he is certainly not shit.

In closing, you all heard it here second (Rajah's heard it first coz I haven't been banned for there ;)) Del Horno is going to score at least five goals next season and set up over ten, and everyone will see how great he is. He has a great free kick on his, takes lots of long shots, loves to attack down the wing and makes good crosses. He is going to be the man.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Wow, that's great. One long ranger shot against Chelsea which was Liverpool's only good shot. I'm convinced.

[Dazz]

And then he broke his leg soon after you fucking retard. He didn't have the chance last season, wait till he has a few games under him this season and finds some form. He looked threatening against us at Anfield too. Terry and your boyfriend had a hard task marking him, he broke away and we had to rely on Big Pete to bail us out, had Carlo been in goal it'd have been 2-0.

Wait till October and you will see that he is quality.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I've seen him playing for several Auxerre and France before he even went to Liverpool, and he never looked any good. So get out of here.

[Dazz]

Don't tell me where to go! You can see that he has potential at least, I don't care who you have seen him play for in the past, it's up to Benitez to get the best out of him and stick him in a formation that suits him.

Look at Gudjohnsen this season, rubbish up front for us because the formation didn't suit him, you need to meet the striker half way and leave him in a formation he can play in. he had easily the bext chance in both games he played against us, and I'd wager it that he is their top scorer next season.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

What is that based on?

Your love for Henri Camara probably

[Dazz]

Just because he doesn't like you lot, get over it MMM, he is too good for you.

[Doink]

its good to have Dazz back !!!!!


Fucking stupid assholes called in a bomb scare at Craig Liddle's testimonial (Darlington V Middlesbrough) Meaning the game got called off at half time and the stadium evacuated. I would say biggest waste of a tenner yet but since it was for Liddle i'll let it go. Shame the stupid pricks have to ruin other peoples day by doing this. Fair play to the Darlo staff and police for the way they handled it.

LOL at the wedding party stood outside afterwards waiting to go back in. BTW Clive Wijnard look pretty good for the first 45mins, he looked more lively then Hasselbaink and caused a hel of a lot more problems!

Boro's alleged interest in Boa Morte would either see him or Downing moving into centre mid, but dont think either would work. We are apparently after Geremi (again) for fuck sake the guy has turned us down like 100 times already, move on Mclaren its time to look elsewhere!

Just caught the 2nd half of Hong Kong V Man U and i think Alan Smith looked quite good in that holding midfield role!

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Just because he doesn't like you lot, get over it MMM, he is too good for you.

Get over what? :wtf: :|

You're the one who was on here defending him saying he's a great striker :| I really don't give a fuck about the man whether he stays or goes, if he's so great why hasn't anyone bought him off us?

[Dazz]

Yes, you do need to get over it, you only moan about him because he doesn't like your poxy little club. And people haven't bought him for his bad attitude and the way he treated oyu lot, not because of his footballing ability.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

You're the only person on here who thinks he's any good :|

And if his attitude is what's stopping a move why the fuck did Blackburn buy Bellamy? Or why does Bowyer continue to be linked with a move anywhere?

[Dazz]

If he is so shit then why was he in the Tsunami match? Clearly more people then just me think he is good.

Southampton would have bought him had they stayed up I reckon. And everyone knows Souness is a cunt and how hard it is to work for him, so it wasn't like it was all Bellamy's fault, and he didn't act like a dickhead at Celtic did he. Camara acted in a much worse way.

Bowyer still moves around because other then the Dyer thing he isn't a cunt on the pitch, and everytime he does something stupid people think he will change.

I would love a Premiership club to sign Camara.

[Dazz]

http://mail.rochester.edu/%7Ehcoimbra/My%20Website/comps.htm

It's 150 megs but pretty shit hot, Maradona Vs Ronaldinho, just basically lots of clips of their skills, goals and just being the man. Mainly for RBF because he loves Ronaldinho.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I don't love Ronaldinho, he's like my 6th favourite Barca player :$

but thanks anyway :cool:</font>

[Dazz]

I was taking the Mouse. I thought he was lower down your list, you said you didn't like him or Samuel eto'o (AKA e'too).

[Mr. Monday Morning]

If he is so shit then why was he in the Tsunami match?

Probably cause if they'd picked Diouf he would've spat at some orphans or something.

[packt up]

Souness is a cunt


*swoon* :heart:

[Ogen]

A charity game hardly shows much ffs.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">that Tsunami match was gay. Everyone was just treating it as a kick about then Henri Camara comes on trying his hardest and scores twice and Dazz creams his pants.</font>

[Cactus Sid]

I love how Kenyon says "How dare other clubs question our integrity"

Man Utd cleaned up their act as soon as he left......

[toxic rooster]

I love how Kenyon says "How dare other clubs question our integrity"

Man Utd cleaned up their act as soon as he left......
The world still turns...

...which has absolutely nothing to do with your post.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Darius Vassell is joining Man City.

I bet Dazz rates him as one of the best strikers in the Premiership.</font>

[Wengerland]

Now it's back on i'm off to see Inter sans Adriano, Javier and Cristiano Zanetti, Cambiasso, Veron, Cordoba, Davids, Cruz, van der Meyde, Toldo and Kily Gonzalez tonight.

[deathtrap]

Be quiet RBF, Vassell will score more than Lua Lua.

[Doink]

He's all yours Jul 25 2005
Eric Paylor, Evening Gazette

Dutch superstar Edgar Davids is to be offered to Boro on a year-long loan.

Inter Milan chief and former Boro striker Marco Branca has revealed that Davids will definitely play in the Premiership this season.

Branca is also ready to offer full-back Francesco Coco on loan to English clubs.

Branca, referring to both players, said: "There is no chance right now that their contracts will be rescinded.

"But they need to play football regularly and now have to find a club who can offer them that possibility.

"They have many admirers in England and will play there."

'Spurs and West Ham are also keeping an eye on the situation while Everton have held initial talks over Davids'

The only sticking point could be the players wages as Inter will want whoever takes either player to pay the majority of the players wages.

[Rob Ban Fan]

Be quiet RBF, Vassell will score more than Lua Lua.

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Vassell is terrible, his stats for last season are 21 apps (4) 2 goals. </font>

[Doink]

out of interest, what was Lua Lua's ?

[Cactus Sid]

I don't know, but Lua Lua scored as many goals against Southampton as Vassell did all season

[Dazz]

Right, way for everyone to mis-read what I said.

I meant that he was good enough to be picked for it, I didn't comment on the actual game, you stupid bell-ends.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Now it's back on i'm off to see Inter sans Adriano, Javier and Cristiano Zanetti, Cambiasso, Veron, Cordoba, Davids, Cruz, van der Meyde, Toldo and Kily Gonzalez tonight.

Do you really mean sans, or do you mean avec :$

[Dazz]

fuck off with your gay talk, he meant with.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Right, way for everyone to mis-read what I said.

I meant that he was good enough to be picked for it, I didn't comment on the actual game, you stupid bell-ends.

it's a fucking charity game you dumb shit. You realise he was on the World XI, i.e. countries outside of Europe. They had to have a certain percentage for African representation or they would've looked bad. Besides which he was a fucking sub, if he was everything you seem to fucking think he is he would've started ahead of Eto'o and/or won African Footballer of the Year, like he seemed convinced he was going to do. But no, he won fuck all and ran around like he was on speed trying his hardest while everyone else treated it as a kickabout.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

fuck off with your gay talk, he meant with.

Oh, sorry, forgot you're a chubby-faced tit with atrocious hair who can barely string two sentances together.

[The Mackem]

Come on fellas, remember the Fifa motto, fair play.

[Wengerland]

Nah, i really did mean without. They've generally bought a reserve side with about 6 first team players - Martins, Solari, Stankovic, Materazzi, Mihajlovic and Pizarro. Mihajlovic and Pizarro may not start infront of Cordoba and Veron respectively too.

[Ogen]

Happy to see Vassel go as I want us to bring in another striker but wouldn't have wanted 5 of them since it'd mean Moore geting fuck all chances. This way works out well if we can pull in someone a bit proven.

[deathtrap]

Vassell scored 3 last season in the league.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Not according to the Aston Villa official site or the BBC. He got 2 in the league and 1 in the league cup but its not like 21 (4) 3 is great either ;)

Lee Hendrie's stats last seasons were 25 (4) 5

not that that means anything.</font>

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Vassell spent large amounts of last season seriously injured.

He's a disaster area. Has he played a full season yet? He could be a decent enough player if he could go a couple of weeks without hurting himself.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I know he was injured, thats fair enough. It doesn't mean he isn't terrible though. The only thing he has his pace, he's a worse finisher than Henri Camara.</font>

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I disagree, I think Vassell is a decent footballer, he's a good runner with the ball. Like Bellamy: not much of a scorer, but has enough to cause even good defenders some trouble.

Camara has a touch like the proverbial rapist.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I dunno, he's built better than Bellamy but he doesn't use the power and pace to his advantage by just running at people, like Yak does (well, did before he got lazy and stopped running)

He's just fast.</font>

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Maybe you are just a racist.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">its quite possible, i've never really liked Samuel Eto'o and i don't know why. Racism seems logical i suppose.</font>

[packt up]

lol

Vassel is shite for villa decent for England, I wouldn't even want him on a free. Bellamy is superior in every way.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I don't think there's a great deal of difference between them, aside from skin colour of course. They both spend inordinate amounts of time injured, and can't finish for shit.

[Rob]

Vassell is fucking shite. How the hell can anyone rate him?

City would be better off starting with Bradley Wright-Phillips than this doughnut.

[Dazz]

it's a fucking charity game you dumb shit. You realise he was on the World XI, i.e. countries outside of Europe. They had to have a certain percentage for African representation or they would've looked bad. Besides which he was a fucking sub, if he was everything you seem to fucking think he is he would've started ahead of Eto'o and/or won African Footballer of the Year, like he seemed convinced he was going to do. But no, he won fuck all and ran around like he was on speed trying his hardest while everyone else treated it as a kickabout.

I don't think he is amazing, but he is worthy of being at at least a half decent Premiership team, like Villa or Boro. And the last sentence is void and missing the point, I made it clear I wasn't talking about what he did in the match but the fact he was in it.

Oh, sorry, forgot you're a chubby-faced tit with atrocious hair who can barely string two sentances together.

My hair isn't how you remember it :'(

[Ogen]

I wouldn't be happy if we signed him.

[Dazz]

Good. No one asked a dickhead like you.



























Sorry, MMM has got me in a bad-ass mood :$.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">to be fair, teh fact he was in it doesn't mean anything since they had to include a number of Africans, Asians etc etc. Lucas Radabe and Raidi Jaidi were in the team too as were a load of chinks i have never heard of.

The teams started off with all teh world class players like Sheva, Gerrard, Ronaldinho, Becks etc, then the chinks and darkies got their turn for the last 10 minutes.</font>

[diothoir]

to be fair, teh fact he was in it doesn't mean anything since they had to include a number of Africans, Asians etc etc. Lucas Radabe and Raidi Jaidi were in the team too as were a load of chinks i have never heard of.

The teams started off with all teh world class players like Sheva, Gerrard, Ronaldinho, Becks etc, then the chinks and darkies got their turn for the last 10 minutes.
I won't have a bad word said against Lucas, you filthy blaggard. :mad: A few years back, he was one of the best defenders in England. Too bad his knees are fucked now, we could have used him this season. :'(

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I like Lucas Radabe, he got a standing ovation from your lot in the match we beat you 2-1 thanks to goals from Yakubu and Lua Lua with Ian Harte scoring a dodgy penalty making for a nervy last 10 minutes with Shaka making a wondersave from Nick Barmby with about 10 seconds left that effectively relegated you because there was no way you'd catch us. Anyway.

The point is, you didn't have to be a world class player to be picked.</font>

[diothoir]

Fair enough I suppose, the guy was fucked by last season. At least he got a good send off. :love:

[Wengerland]

David Pizarro was class last night, top signing for Inter. Martins didn't play though :mad: The Inter fans that came along were shit though, i wasn't expecting them to sing or anything but they didn't even clap their players when they were subbed, with the exception of Solari.

I'm also fearing Connolly might leave, he was supposed to have been fit for last night but wasn't even on the bench. Dion and de Vries up front won't cut it, no pace.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Phil Neville is for sale :lol:

[deathtrap]

If Baros is his replacement I will not be impressed.

[Rob]

Phil Neville is for sale :lol:

He has been available for years. Nobody has bid on him.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Boro will :shifty:

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I was thinking that too. Or Birmingham.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Or Newcastle, seeing as they want every midfielder in the world.

[The Mackem]

I'm guessing he will be available for next to nothing so we should go for him, get some star power in our line up.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

"star power"

"Phil Neville"

:$!

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Former England captain, Phil Neville.

[The Mackem]

That would add thousands on the gates.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yeah I guess I'd pay a few quid to be able to throw things at him.

[Rob]

Turns out we have had bids for him and turned them down.

[I refuse to Rosk.]

Vassell has incredible potential, but had had two leg breaks and three ankle breaks in 5 years. Quite possibly the unluckiest player in England.

[packt up]

Or Newcastle, seeing as they want every midfielder in the world.

:cool:

Newcastle take over bid?? Funny stuff. Bring on some cash!

[Cactus Sid]

Davids has gone to Spurs :eek:

They need some experienced players to take them forward, they should be in Europe next season

[Mr. Monday Morning]

On a free, as well :eek:

Then again it's mainly cause Inter want to clear the wage bill to make way for Figo. There's talk Van Der Meyde and/or Coco might wind up at Everton also, although now that Davids has moved I dunno how that'll affect those two.

[deathtrap]

I reckon Dio Kamara and Robert Earnshaw will be a good front two for WBA.

[Cactus Sid]

There's talk Van Der Meyde might wind up at Everton

Can't see why we don't go for him if Figo's going to Inter

Anyway, Sami Hyypia has been utter wank in the first half. He looks seriously slow now, and Carragher has bailed him out twice.

Speaking of Carragher.....WHAT A GOAL :love: :love: :love: :love:

As for Cisse, good finish, always looks threatening.....serious lacks the fundamentals. One finish in 5 just isn't gonna be good enough.

[Dazz]

I refuse to believe that Davids has gone to Spurs until he holds up a Yiddo shirt with a name and number on it. He hasn't even negotiated personal terms yet.

[Wengerland]

Spurs have got loads of midfielders, that said, someone like Davids is probably what they need. Experienced and his all action game would allow Carrick to play it about.

I guess Inter don't need him anyway, and like i say, Pizarro looks like being a fine signing.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Davids can play it about better than Carrick can. He's real class.

Depends on whether Davids is still up for it or not, or whether he's just after a payday in London. He was immense for Barcelona the season before last. Anything like that form, and he'll slap everyone's balls.

[Dazz]

If he actually goes to the Yids then Maka will sort him out at the end of August :cool:

[Ringmaster Mastodon]

I'd hope that Davids has signed for Spurs, but you've got to remember that he was confirmed to be signing for both them and Chelsea last year. He'll probably change his mind at the last minute..

[Rob]

Davids was shite last season whenever I saw him. Not surprised it's a free either since he went to Inter on a free in the first place.

Van Der Mayde has been linked with Everton for well over a year now. I think he might have even turned down a move there at one point.

[Doink]

Darius Vassell has completed his £2 million move to Manchester City from Aston Villa.

Vassell left Villa's pre-season tour of Sweden to fly to Manchester to undergo a medical and discuss personal terms after the two clubs agreed a fee on Monday.

The 25-year-old has now signed a four-year contract at The City of Manchester Stadium, ending his seven-year association with his only professional club.

Vassell has 22 England caps to his name but struggled last season with injuries, managing just two goals for Villa.

David O'Leary had originally signalled his intention to keep Vassell at Villa Park, but decided to allow him to join Stuart Pearce's outfit.

Pearce is rebuilding following the departure of Shaun Wright-Phillips, and has now signed a new-look strike force with Vassell joining Andy Cole at the club.

Vassell will join Pearce's troops for training on Wednesday and will make his debut against either Sheffield Wednesday or Stoke, who face City over the weekend in pre-season friendlies.

[Cactus Sid]

Whoa, Claridge has just been sacked by Millwall before a game

Colin Lee is the new manager

[Wengerland]

That is fucking bullshit. I thought i could like Millwall after they got rid of Wise and got Claridge in, but they're a disgrace. Sacking someone before a competitive game, good idea :| Cunts

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yessssssssss fuck you Claridge, get off my TV :love:

[Doink]

Yessssssssss fuck you Claridge, get off my TV :love:

agreed :yes:

[Cactus Sid]

Yessssssssss fuck you Claridge, get off my TV :love:

Actually, this'll mean he's on more :-\

[Mr. Monday Morning]

You never know, they might see how shit he is :'(

[Rob Ban Fan]

Vassell has incredible potential, but had had two leg breaks and three ankle breaks in 5 years. Quite possibly the unluckiest player in England.

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">going back to players that are constantly crocked, Jonothan Woodgate has broken down again :|</font>

[Rob Ban Fan]

:foc:

http://www.bettingzone.co.uk/pictures/soccer/claridgesouthamptonceleb.jpg

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">SUPER STEVIE CLARIDGE</font>

[The Mackem]

What a funny turn events that is. Claridge has a board meeting with the topic being him asking the board if the club can take on Colin Lee on a non-contract basis. The meeting ends with Claridge being dismissed and Colin Lee now in charge of the club. It's a funny old game.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

:foc:

http://www.bettingzone.co.uk/pictures/soccer/claridgesouthamptonceleb.jpg

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">SUPER STEVIE CLARIDGE</font>

Portsmouth: 1997-1998
Played 10 Scored 2 (Division 1)

Transferred on 26/3/1998 for £400,000

Wolves: 1997-1998
Played 5 Scored 0 (Division 1)

Transferred to Portsmouth on 10/8/1998 for £200, 000

:foc::foc::foc:

[Wengerland]

I didn't realise Claridge was still here for the first half of that season :$

What a legend though.

[toxic rooster]

http://www.koptalk.org/images/temp/scumsign.jpg

:rofl:

[Cactus Sid]

I've been looking for that :lol:

[toxic rooster]

And I found it :lol:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Diouf has been fined for not having a TV licence :| :lol:

[toxic rooster]

I'm sure he can afford it easily

which is quite sad

[Rob Ban Fan]

<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">yes but the man is a cunt, he also claimed legal aid when he could easily afford a lawyer. No doubt Bolton fans will praise him and lick him bum hole and use the same defence they used for him getting legal aid "he earns a lot and pays a lot more in taxes so its alright."

Yes, fuck off and get run over by a big truck or something. Wankers.</font>

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I love El-Hadji Diouf.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Jonathan Woodgate has rubbished reports that has suffered another setback and is considering hanging up his boots.

It was widely reported that the Real Madrid defender had broken down in training once again and looked no closer to making his debut following his £13.8m move from Newcastle a year ago.

Woodgate was said to be considering retirement if specialists continue to draw a blank on his recurring thigh problem.

But Woodgate insists that there is no problem, saying: "My rehabilitation has been going exactly to plan. There’s been no breakdown and I’m going to Austria with the rest of the squad next week as planned."

:wtf:

[Doink]

yeh by going to plan im thinking he means ' I dont give a fuck about football, if marcalino can be out for 2 years with a dislocated finger when i was at the geordies then im sure i can see out my heafty well paid contract and not play at all, i mean the stupid idiots already paid me last season the dum asses so im going to see how long i can ride this out before they make me play'

or something along those lines!

[Mr. Monday Morning]

'cept he offered to take a pay cut.

[packt up]

Poor Jonathon :( glad we got rid of him obviously but he's a great player when fit and seemed like a nice enough lad. Apparently we've offered to take him back if he gets his contract cancelled.

Van de Meyde is fucking shite. Absolutely terrible final ball. Like Gronkjaer except slower and with a worse final ball.

Deportivo tonight - a good test to see how we are getting along.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Van der Meyde was great at Ajax. I remind you of another Dutch player who was absolutely bollocks at Inter - Dennis Bergkamp.

[packt up]

Bergkamp can pass though.

lol Celtic 4-0 down.

[Ogen]

Lost 5-0 Christ.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Bergkamp can pass though.

Do you remember Bergkamp at Inter? He won an award for being the worst player in Italy.

I do. He was abysmal. Van der Meyda was quality for Ajax, he can be quality for another club given a chance.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Celtic's worst defeat in 42 years :$

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Probably their worst ever, truth be told. Given the context.

[Rob Ban Fan]

I love El-Hadji Diouf.

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">You love being anally fisted.</font>

[El Capitano Gatisto]

So does your mum.

[yianni]

yes but the man is a cunt, he also claimed legal aid when he could easily afford a lawyer.
LOL are you serious? What a fucking stupid cunt.

no doubt Bolton fans will praise him and lick him bum hole and use the same defence they used for him getting legal aid "he earns a lot and pays a lot more in taxes so its alright."

Yes, fuck off and get run over by a big truck or something. Wankers.
:lol:

[The Mackem]

Is the team Celtic got beat of from Slovakia?

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">yes, there was an article on BBC before the match about how Stanislav Varga was looking forward to an emotional return to Slovakia too :lol:</font>

[Doink]

Lovenkrands has been sent back to Rangers after not impressing in training, this has allowed Massimo Maccarone to get into the boro squad for the pre season tour to portugal. Maclaren has stated its now upto him to work his way back into the team as talks over a loan move to Seina have broken down completely.

[packt up]

lol at Van Nistelrooy berating Ferdinand. Good times

[Rob]

Van Der Mayde is going to Spurs too

[Cactus Sid]

Champions League draw
The draw for the third qualifying round of the Champions League:
Basle 1893 v Werder Bremen

CELTIC or Artmedia Bratislava v Partizan Belgrade or FC Sheriff

Shakhtar Donetsk v Inter Milan

Shelbourne or Steaua Bucharest v Rosenborg

MANCHESTER UNITED v Debrecen or Hajduk Split

Malmo or Maccabi Haifa v Dynamo Kiev or FC Thun

EVERTON v Villarreal

LIVERPOOL or Kaunas v CSKA Sofia or Dinamo Tirana

Sporting Lisbon v Udinese

Valerenga or FC Haka v Clube Brugge

Rapid Vienna or F91 Dudelange v Rabotnicki or Lokomotiv Moscow

Anderlecht or Neftchi v Slavia Prague

Trabzonspor or Anorthosis v RANGERS

Brondby or Dynamo Tbilisi v Ajax

Real Betis v Monaco

Wisla Krakow v Panathinaikos

[Cactus Sid]

CSKA Sofia.....with Michael Shields just put in a Bulgarian prison, should be interesting

[Wengerland]

Everton vs Villareal will be interesting, though i expect Villareal to win.

[packt up]

Poor Everton :(

[Chavo Classic]

I love El-Hadji Diouf.

I love Bolton for taking that fuckwit away from Merseyside. He's like a fucking camel, always spitting like a dirty like fuck.

[Rob]

Everyone else in the country gets threatened with jail and a 10k fine for not having a TV license. Nice to see the rules apply to everyone.

[Chavo Classic]

Poor Everton :(

Diego Forlan has apparently promised to make Everton pay for his nightmare spell in the Premiership.

It's fucking hilarious. After celebrating their entry into the champions league so hard, they won't even get into the group stages! It's comedy gold! :rofl:

[Rob]

"He comes from Uruguay. He'll make the scousers cry. DIEGO!"

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Real Madrid have signed Baptista and are about to sign Robinho. See ya later Micky Owen.

[Chavo Classic]

Everyone else in the country gets threatened with jail and a 10k fine for not having a TV license. Nice to see the rules apply to everyone.

Students on £3,000 a year (a loan, no less) get fined £1000.
A dirty, spitting Senegalese badboy reject on £15,000 a week is fined £100.

Dam you Birkenhead Magistrates! :mad:

[Chavo Classic]

Real Madrid have signed Baptista and are about to sign Robinho. See ya later Micky Owen.

Hello, Michael. Welcome home, all is forgotten :D

[packt up]

If by home you mean "Arsenal" or "Manchester Utd"

[Rob]

Yeah I wouldn't mind Owen. We'll have him for about £4 million and he could warm our bench.

[Chavo Classic]

Owen would have a starting place in any front line in the premiership.

[Chavo Classic]

If by home you mean "Arsenal" or "Manchester Utd"

Benitez is apparently not a fan, and although I am a huge Owen mark, I won't disagree with him. He won the European Cup and for that, he can think or do anything he wants.

So, it indeed looks like Arsenal or Man Utd

[Chavo Classic]

Arsenal are currently playing Ajax in the Amsterdam tournament. They look naked without Viera.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Sunday Times last week said Manchester United are the only club with a registered interest in Owen.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Arsenal are currently playing Ajax in the Amsterdam tournament. They look naked without Viera.
That was last night. The Lord giveth and he taketh away: Lupoli's goal is class. Another Wenger gem unearthed.

[Chavo Classic]

That was last night. The Lord giveth and he taketh away: Lupoli's goal is class. Another Wenger gem unearthed.

Was it? Dam you Sky Sports 3 for making me look like a fool.

[Chavo Classic]

Sunday Times last week said Manchester United are the only club with a registered interest in Owen.

He'd be a classic addition to Arsenal. Bergkamp has started playing behind the strikers (and he seems to does it really quite well) and that spanish kid reyes will be off before the end of the season.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Reyes just signed a new long term contract, and Bergkamp has always played as an advanced midfielder rather than a striker.

[Rob]

He'd be a classic addition to Arsenal. Bergkamp has started playing behind the strikers (and he seems to does it really quite well) and that spanish kid reyes will be off before the end of the season.

Is this you just hoping he doesn't sign for United?

[El Capitano Gatisto]

He'd be a great signing for either side. An extra 25-30 goals a season.

[Rob]

Motherwell just went 4-3 up against Celtic :lol:

[Doink]

So what bets are people putting on this year?

Im only having 4 which are :

Kezman to win the golden boot award

Lampard to score more goals than Gerrard

Celtic to finish 3rd or 4th

Middlesbrough to finish in the top 6.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Those are 4 dodgy bets

[El Capitano Gatisto]

The Lampard one is the only realistic bet.

[yianni]

Wtf is with Celtic? :|

[Doink]

The Lampard one is the only realistic bet.

Should get good odds for it too as Gerrard already has 6.

Kezman ala Forlan, (good record outside of England), has a point to prove.

Hearts and Hibs are the teams to watch out for in Scotland this year, I htink Rangers will win it but these 2 will fight it out for second place.

Boro, if they stay clear of injuries have a decent chance of finish in the top six, however there are about 7 other teams which are the same so ive gone for the tam I support.

Spurs will either finish in top six or win one of the cups this year IMO.

[Doink]

Wtf is with Celtic? :|


Its a learning year for them, Strachan shouldnt be judged until at least christmas. He will do well for them but not until next season as he wll then have sussed out his squad properly.

I think they are going to have a few dodgy results this season.

[Doink]

Those are 4 dodgy bets

Come on then MMM, you normaly claim to win quite a few bets so what are your tips for this season? ;)

[Mr. Monday Morning]

lol thought you might say that. I normally bet game-to-game, far easier to make a few bob that way.

With regards to the 4 you put up there:

1) Kezman's record at PSV was phenomenal, but it remains to be seen whether he can regain his confidence/form after last season. On top of that, Atletico are not that great of a team. Forlan did great last year but Villareal as a team really overachieved, I don't think Atletico will.

2) Is probable but no guarantee, if Chelsea keep everyone fit they might end up playing 4-4-2 more than they did last year, which will restrict Lampard's forward runs a bit. Added to that, if Alonso can stay fit and depending on how Benitez uses his main formation, Gerrard could spend a lot of time behind the striker(s). Mind you, Benitez has already said he'll be resting Gerrard, so barring a Lampard injury this one'll probably go. You mentioned the goals Gerrard has already, I dunno how/who you're doing the bet with but they might only count Prem goals, or I'd expect so.

3) If Hearts and/or Motherwell can keep their squads healthy and make a decent fist of it I'd be surprised but not shocked. However I've got to think Celtic still have too much for the rest to not finish in the top 2.

4) Eh, possible but I don't see it. While you keep adding more firepower the defence is getting older and older, and relying on Southgate and Ehiogu at their ages IMO is not a good idea.

I agree Spurs seem to have everything in place to make a decent fist of the league but we'll see how Jol handles a full season. They are unbelievably inconsistent recently. IMO Everton will be top 10, Bolton will probably hang around the top 8, Boro and Spurs will fight it out for the final UEFA Cup spot. Citeh and Villa will do well to finish at the higher end of midtable. Newcastle won't do anything while that defence is in place though they can't do worse than last year.

I'd be surprised if any of the promoted teams stay up too, although I think Fulham are going to really struggle as well as West Brom, and Pompey might as well depending on how the squad comes together (RBF :$ ) I'll give Sunderland the benefit of the doubt since Mackem will knock my bins over if I don't.

Far as winning it I can't look past Chelsea right now. The sheer strength in depth is overwhelming. We'll see how Arsenal cope without Vieira, he's been on the decline but he could still make a difference in this league. Man Utd could storm the league or slump about like they did last year, though Van Der Sar should in theory be a huge bonus. Liverpool should also push a lot harder this year

I'm gonna get crucified for this when the season finishes I'm sure but here's a rough guess at how the league will pan out:

1) Chelsea
2) Man Utd
3) Arsenal
4) Liverpool
5) Bolton
6) Spurs
7) Boro
8) Everton
9) Newcastle
10) Charlton
11) Citeh
12) Birmingham
13) Villa
14) Pompey
15) Blackburn
16) Fulham
17) Sunderland
18) West Brom
19) West Ham
20) Wigan

Damn, that's a huge post :$

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Should get good odds for it too as Gerrard already has 6.

Kezman ala Forlan, (good record outside of England), has a point to prove.

Hearts and Hibs are the teams to watch out for in Scotland this year, I htink Rangers will win it but these 2 will fight it out for second place.

Boro, if they stay clear of injuries have a decent chance of finish in the top six, however there are about 7 other teams which are the same so ive gone for the tam I support.

Spurs will either finish in top six or win one of the cups this year IMO.
I don't think Champions League preliminary round games count towards goal totals.

Rangers are shit.

Celtic will still fairly comfortably come top or second, once Strachan sorts out the defence.

Kezman might score a few in Spain, but that doesn't mean he'll win the Golden Boot (I take it you mean the top scorer in Europe).

Boro will do nothing this season, as usual.

[Londoner]

1) Chelsea
2) Man Utd
3) Arsenal
4) Liverpool
5) Bolton
6) Spurs
7) Boro
8) Everton
9) Newcastle
10) Charlton
11) Citeh
12) Birmingham
13) Villa
14) Pompey
15) Blackburn
16) Fulham
17) Sunderland
18) West Brom
19) West Ham
20) Wigan


I agree with most of that, though i reckon sunderland will get relegated and west ham will stay up.And hopefully my newcastle team can get 6th place atleast but based on the performance against Deportivo, that 9th place your giving us we should be greatful for!

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Everton lost 5-0 to Fenerbahce :$

Liverpool could play Sydney FC in the world club championship thing :eek: Isn't that Dwight Yorke's club now?

[toxic rooster]

yeah

[Rob]

Apparently, Man Yoo will get Michael Ballack on a Bosman next year. That would be friggin sweet!

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Arsene Wenger has ruled out signing Michael Owen.

And the Lyon chairman is saying Manchester United and Arsenal are both interested in Essien. Probably bollocks to put the shits up Chelsea and drive up the fee, though.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I'll be sending out PMs in a couple days to anyone who I think (at least, based on posting in this and past threads) would be interested in doing fantasy football this year. I'll set it up and run the thing, last time I took care of one a couple years back I had no complaints, unless anyone objects.

Anyway yeah check your PMs or just reply here if you're interested.

[toxic rooster]

I'll probably join, give up after 3 weeks and leave my team as is for the rest of the season.

Can't believe Ogen beat me by one point last season

[Nervous Ferret]

I'm interested

[yianni]

Liverpool could play Sydney FC in the world club championship thing :eek: Isn't that Dwight Yorke's club now?
Correct!

Briane Deane signed for Perth Glory FC. Opinions, Downunder? :lol:

It'd be pretty funny if he scores the first ever goal in the new football A-League here (or as I like to call it, the gAy-League, as my club was shafted and not given the chance to join).

If Deane scores the first A-League goal it would go along nicely with his 'achievement' of scoring the first ever goal in the English Premier League.

[Chavo Classic]

If I was an aging English footballer, I'd be stupid not to sign for an A-League team. "Come live down in sunny Australia, get paid thousands a week, and play in a league where you'll be treated like a superstar".

[Londoner]

I'll be sending out PMs in a couple days to anyone who I think (at least, based on posting in this and past threads) would be interested in doing fantasy football this year. I'll set it up and run the thing, last time I took care of one a couple years back I had no complaints, unless anyone objects.

Anyway yeah check your PMs or just reply here if you're interested.

I'll join, ive already joined a free one on the premier league site i think it was.

[Doink]

I'm gonna get crucified for this when the season finishes I'm sure but here's a rough guess at how the league will pan out:

1) Chelsea
2) Man Utd
3) Arsenal
4) Liverpool
5) Bolton
6) Spurs
7) Boro
8) Everton
9) Newcastle
10) Charlton
11) Citeh
12) Birmingham
13) Villa
14) Pompey
15) Blackburn
16) Fulham
17) Sunderland
18) West Brom
19) West Ham
20) Wigan


1) Chelsea :mad:
2) Man Utd
3) Arsenal
4) Liverpool
5) Boro :shifty:
6) Spurs
7) Everton
8) Bolton
9) Citeh
10) Villa
11) Birmingham
12) Blackburn
13) Charlton
14) Newcastle :lol:
15) West Ham
16) Pompey
17) Sunderland :?:
18) West Brom :?:
19) Fulham :?:
20) Wigan :wavesad:

thats how I think it'll pan out

[Doink]

Viduka for Butt swop Aug 1 2005 by Eric Paylor, Evening Gazette

Mark Viduka could be Newcastle bound this week - with Nicky Butt coming to Teesside in an audacious swop deal.

The shock move has been instigated by Magpies boss Graeme Souness, who is desperate to strengthen his attack.

Viduka would fit the fill at St James's, while Steve McClaren will believe he can resurrect the career of Geordie flop Butt and solve his midfield dilemma.

For Viduka, a switch to Tyneside would enable the big Aussie to start again on an even keel following his Teesside injury agonies.

The Evening Gazette understands that the key to the deal taking place is Newcastle's willingness to offer a sizeable amount of cash to accompany the swop arrangement.

Boro would want somewhere in the region of £2m plus Butt, before allowing Viduka to go.

The Aussie was withdrawn from the second match of Boro's four-team tournament in the Algarve on Saturday night, which suggests that negotiations had already opened at that stage.

The talk of the swop will intrigue fans of both clubs, who will be weighing up who will get the better of the deal should it reach a conclusion this week.

Boro paid a massive £4.5m for Viduka just 12 months ago and, despite occasional fitness problems, he scored seven goals before Christmas.

However, a Boxing Day back injury at Birmingham City virtually ended his campaign and he lasted just ten minutes in an attempted comeback at Crystal Palace in April.

McClaren brought in new striker Yakubu for a whopping £7.5m this summer and the Nigerian looked set for a three-way tussle up front along with Viduka and Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink.

But the Gazette revealed exclusively a few weeks ago that three could become two because Newcastle were keen on Viduka.

Now the Magpies have hardened up this interest, and the offer of Butt in return is very tempting for McClaren.

The 30-year-old former England international has endured a disastrous 12 months on Tyneside and was booed off by Newcastle fans in the FA Cup semi-final defeat by Manchester United.

But Butt knows McClaren well from their days together at Old Trafford and the Boro boss could help him to rediscover his best form.

Butt would also solve McClaren's dilemma - the manager having failed to snap up the quality ball player he has been seeking.

It's certainly not a deal made in heaven, but both clubs could benefit, especially if Boro could land a cash windfall as a result.

The one thing Boro fans would not want to see, however, is Viduka scoring goals on a regular basis for the Geordies





I honesly dont know if this would be a good deal or a bad one!

[Rob]

I'd take that if I was Boro.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Nicky Butt is crap. I'd rather have Viduka, on the off chance he stays clear of injury. Butt isn't so good on the old injury front himself.

[Doink]

Thats what I mean buy I dont know if its a good deal or not, I think id rather have Viduka incase he comes good but then again I wouldnt mind Butt alongside boatang.

I think this deal has a lot to do with Maccarone's return, as he's now back on wage bill, we might be looking to cut the wage bill and Viduka is no doubt on a good wage. So it might be better to sell him, get in someone on a slightly lower wage on a shorter contract along with a few mill transfer fee.

Also Malcum Christie is on the comeback trail at last. He is playing in a reserve fixture on wednesday. If he can stay fit id love it and id be happy to sell Viduka. Ypu guys prob wont agree but Christie has something about him and all the boro fans love him even tho he's been out for about 2 years.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

He's a good player. I remember him being in a good run of form when he got injured in the first place. I remember seeing him torture Chelsea, last time I saw him in action.

[Dazz]

You didn't see nothing Gatesy :foc:

[Doink]

lol

[Doink]

Norwich City have completed their swoop for Tottenham Hotspur youngster Dean Marney. The England Under-21 international has moved to Carrow Road on a season-long loan in a bid to further his career.

Skysports.com understand Wigan have made a move to try and sign unsettled Wolves striker Henri Camara.

Internazionale have confirmed the signing of Walter Samuel from Real Madrid.

Crystal Palace have called a press conference for nine o'clock Tuesday morning to clarify the position of star striker Andy Johnson.

Birmingham City look set to sign striker Walter Pandiani after finally agreeing a fee with Deportivo La Coruna.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Since Wigan are nouveau rich they can easily afford £5m for Camara :shifty:

And wow, I know Samuel didn't perform for Real but they must have pretty big confidence in Woodgate's ability to last a season to let him go.

[Doink]

unless they are thinking about playing Owen there :shifty:

[packt up]

Butt and Viduka are both fucking terrible.

Yo MMM hook me up with this fantasy football stuff.

[diothoir]

I'll have a crack at this fantasy football too.

[Londoner]

Nicky Butt is crap. I'd rather have Viduka, on the off chance he stays clear of injury. Butt isn't so good on the old injury front himself.

I agree with that, butt was aload of crap really.Viduka has potential if he stays injury free and actually starts to give a shit.

[Butch]

Yeah I'm up for a spot of Fantasy Football, count me in.

[yianni]

If I was an aging English footballer, I'd be stupid not to sign for an A-League team. "Come live down in sunny Australia, get paid thousands a week, and play in a league where you'll be treated like a superstar".

Very true. Well, treated by a superstar by those who know what the fuck football actually is.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Joey Barton's half brother is wanted in connection with that race murder on Merseyside.

Inter were class against us. Pizzaro was quality, their passing was brilliant.

Adriano was quiet but he smacked the ball so high it hit the underside of the stand roof, came back down and hit a photographer on the head and Adriano just stood and laughed :'(

apparently Camara might have rejected Wigan's terms.</font>

[Chavo Classic]

Sky Sports News has said that Camara has today signed and has already booked tickets for his family for next season's matches against Stoke and QPR.

[Y2Ant]

Newcastle need to sign Owen dammit, I don't want shitty whiney Anelka or shitty fat twat Viduka :(

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Owen would probably rather take his chances at Real for another bit than go to a joke club like Newcastle. No need for a world class player who's still young to go there.

Fucking BBC have the Celtic match on BBC2 Scotland. Wankers. I bet the atmosphere is incredible now. 3-0 up with half an hour to go.

[Chavo Classic]

Why would Owen choose NUFC? He's after Champions League football, the Toon can't even offer UEFA cup!

Good luck against Depo tomorrow night, you stupid geordie arseholes!

[Wengerland]

He's after regular football in World Cup year, he'd probably make the World Cup squad if he stays at Real but his starting place wouldn't be secure. Newcastle would worship Owen and he'd play every week, the signings Souness has made are quite good too, so as soon as Souness gets sacked they can probably push on for a top 6 place.

They can beat Deportivo at home and then i think it's Lazio or Marseille in the final, and they can beat both of them too, but i dont think Micky is too fussed about European football anyway.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

The signings Souness has made are good? Put it into context, here. He has only managed to strengthen what was already the strongest part of his team - the midfield, yet has weakened his defence and strikeforce. Granted, signing Owen would be a step to improving the forward situation, but Owen would be mad to go there for anything other than a year long loan. Newcastle are a disaster area, and will be until the management throughout the club is shaken up, wholesale. That means Souness gone, and the club bought out and the chairman replaced by someone who isn't a fat, stupid shit.

[packt up]

lol ECG :heart:

I'd love Owen to sign, if he does I will jizz my pants.

[Wengerland]

I'm saying Emre and Parker are good players, that's all. I didn't say whether they were needed or not, but Davids, assuming he goes to Spurs, is a great signing for them, but at the same time they have loads of midfielders.

I didn't know they'd signed Craig Moore until i'd just seen it, that doesn't look great.

[packt up]

Craig Moore = most uninspiring signing in history. Souness needs to get some defenders in and a left winger...plus Owen

[Rob]

Owen is NEVER gonna go to Newcastle. I think it's Man United or Serie A at this point.

[Chavo Classic]

The Times are running a great Fantasy Football league in conjunction with Talk Sport this year. Yeh, I know its not 1995 anymore and fantasy football is about as cool as 1,000 posts on an wrestling internet forum, but it's worth investing in for a £5.

There's a £55m budget which I've spent on the following, what do you think?

Jaaskelian - £4m

Carvalho - £5.5m
Del Horno - £5m
Ledley King - £5m
Cygan - £2m (I know, but he's cheap and he'll fill in plenty whilst sicknote Campbell is out)

Berger - £4m (plenty of assists)
Scholes - £6m (goals from midfield!)
Ronaldo - £6.5m
Dyer - £4m

Defoe - £6.5m
Beattie - £3.5m

and Manager - David O'Leary - £3.5m

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I'm saying Emre and Parker are good players, that's all. I didn't say whether they were needed or not, but Davids, assuming he goes to Spurs, is a great signing for them, but at the same time they have loads of midfielders.

I didn't know they'd signed Craig Moore until i'd just seen it, that doesn't look great.

Jury's out on Davids, if what Mancini says is true and he's falling apart physically. He could be there for a big fat Dutch payday.

Also, Spurs have 3 top strikers and Freddi Kanoute, plus a strong defence. This is the context I'm talking about.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yeh, I know its not 1995 anymore and fantasy football is about as cool as 1,000 posts on an wrestling internet forum

Gonna assume you haven't read the post on the previous page. Or maybe you have I dunno.

There's a £55m budget which I've spent on the following, what do you think?

Jaaskelian - £4m

Carvalho - £5.5m
Del Horno - £5m
Ledley King - £5m
Cygan - £2m (I know, but he's cheap and he'll fill in plenty whilst sicknote Campbell is out)

Berger - £4m (plenty of assists)
Scholes - £6m (goals from midfield!)
Ronaldo - £6.5m
Dyer - £4m

Defoe - £6.5m
Beattie - £3.5m

and Manager - David O'Leary - £3.5m

There's no such thing as assists in an Aston Villa midfield. They're shocking. Cygan isn't going to fill in anything unless Senderos is injured and Lauren has his annual suspension for trying to break someone's leg. Beattie's a big fat pie-eating loudmouth who I don't think has scored for Everton yet.

I wouldn't be surprised to see O'Leary walk before the end of the season either.

[Bixente]

Arsenal will win the title. Most people, it seems, expect Chelsea to win it, but so many so-called experts are writing off the Gunners simply because Vieira is gone.

However, Arsenal played their best football at the start of the season, when their CM players were Cesc and Gilberto. When Vieira returned, they were inferior. The only problem is that since Cesc is still young, he can't play a full season, which shown last season, when Cesc was played far too much, due to injuries to Edu, Gilberto & Vieira.

But, from what I've seen of Aleaksandr Hleb, he could play in CM. He is stronger than he looks, and in the short time he's been at the club, has been outstanding :y:

In the Ajax game, he dribbled very intelligently and gave Lupoli a great through ball, and then supplied a superb long pass to "On-Ree" who lobbed it over Stekelenburg...and missed.

Also, he was wonderful against Boca, and it seemed only Ljungberg was better than him, for Arsenal.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I agree with you completely. I think Vieira has been on wobbly legs for at least 2 seasons and should have been sold last year. He's shown worse effects from injury than Roy Keane, yet has not had remotely the same speculation over his form or career.

[Londoner]

The signings Souness has made are good? Put it into context, here. He has only managed to strengthen what was already the strongest part of his team - the midfield, yet has weakened his defence and strikeforce. Granted, signing Owen would be a step to improving the forward situation, but Owen would be mad to go there for anything other than a year long loan. Newcastle are a disaster area, and will be until the management throughout the club is shaken up, wholesale. That means Souness gone, and the club bought out and the chairman replaced by someone who isn't a fat, stupid shit.


I agree with most of what you said.Though the signings Souness has made are good,the fact that we have so many midfielders isn't.The reason why i'm pleased we got Emre and Parker is because they're two midfielders who can actually play and creates chances,the rest of our midfield are a bunch of big headed twats, apart from maybe Jenas.I can see Owen coming to us, but the chances of that happening are very small.

I personally want our chairman (who i would call a criminal mastermind behind the scenes of football, check the story on the rooney transfer to see what i mean)to hand over to someone else. Sir John Hall was the best ever chairman for us, he really changed the club. He must be sickened by the way the club is being run right now.

[Doink]

Ive heard George Renolds is in the look out for a new club, can I please recomend him for newcastle! :lol:

Personally I think We (boro) have one of, if not the best chairman in the league.

Stevie Gibson is an absolute legend. He yesterday quashed the rumours of the Viduka - Butt swap stories, but says he enjoys speaking to Freddie Sheppard but they havent spoke about Viduka or Butt.

However, In his interview, he goes onto say we are in advanced talks with signing a centre midfielder. Im thinking it maybe someone from newcastle as why else would they be talking and newcastle have signed Parker, Emre and Lee Clark recently. With Butt ruled out by both chairmen, who else does that leave?

Dyer was linked with us earlier in the summer but that was ruled out, Butt is ruled out, Parker and Emre defo wont be sold so that only leaves two people IMO. We were in for Faye before he signed for them, however I see him as too similar to the Boat, so, with that said, JERMAINE JENAS for Boro ?????

[Doink]

what do you think?

Jaaskelian - £4m

Carvalho - £5.5m Ledley King - £5m Cygan - £2m Del Horno - £5m

Dyer - £4m Scholes - £6m Berger - £4m Ronaldo - £6.5m

Defoe - £6.5m Beattie - £3.5m

and Manager - David O'Leary - £3.5m

I think you've wasted some money, but with any dream team you take the good with the bad. Defoe looks to be expensive as IMO i dont think he will play every game as Jol will alternate the main 3 so he could find himself on the bench a bit.

Beattie should come good this year however it depends on how Moyes plays it, if he goes with 2 up top then beattie will do well, but if he goes with beattie alone and an attacking midfielder just off him i dont think he'll score more than 12 goals all season.

Dyer and Berger are both injury prone so may be out quite a bit. Scholes and Ronaldo look to be good buys, my only concern would be how scholes plays if he's put in along side Smith as he may have to play slightly more defensive therefore limiting his game (but dont worry, the ginger git will still get you a goal or two against boro - he always does.)

You have a good keeper in Jaaskelian and Carvalho and Ledley King will score points for you. Del Horno may do well however i think this may depend on Wayne Bridge's return.

I wouldnt have picked David O'Leary as manager, however that may have been a cost thing, Stuart Pearce would have been my shout.

[Doink]

Birmingham City have signed Newcastle United midfielder Nicky Butt on an initial year-long loan. Blues have bagged Butt initially on loan with a view to sealing a £2 million deal come the season's end.

Tottenham have completed the capture of Dutch ace Edgar Davids on a free transfer from Internazionale. The 32-year-old has finalised personal terms and passed a medical at White Hart Lane and is set to don the famous Spurs shirt for the first time in Saturday's friendly against former European champions Porto.

Michael Owen has confirmed he has held talks with a number of Premiership clubs. Manchester United are reported to be leading the chase, although the likes of Chelsea, Newcastle, Everton, Tottenham, Birmingham, Arsenal, and his former club Liverpool are all thought to be interested - although the latter two have denied that they will make an offer.

[Londoner]

Everton, Tottenham&Birmingham?haha. Especially@Birmingham.

[Londoner]

Ive heard George Renolds is in the look out for a new club, can I please recomend him for newcastle! :lol:

Personally I think We (boro) have one of, if not the best chairman in the league.

Stevie Gibson is an absolute legend. He yesterday quashed the rumours of the Viduka - Butt swap stories, but says he enjoys speaking to Freddie Sheppard but they havent spoke about Viduka or Butt.

However, In his interview, he goes onto say we are in advanced talks with signing a centre midfielder. Im thinking it maybe someone from newcastle as why else would they be talking and newcastle have signed Parker, Emre and Lee Clark recently. With Butt ruled out by both chairmen, who else does that leave?

Dyer was linked with us earlier in the summer but that was ruled out, Butt is ruled out, Parker and Emre defo wont be sold so that only leaves two people IMO. We were in for Faye before he signed for them, however I see him as too similar to the Boat, so, with that said, JERMAINE JENAS for Boro ?????

LOL you've got to be joking. The only one i would think they're talking about is Bowyer.Jenas is not going anywhere, dream on.

[Doink]

LOL you've got to be joking. The only one i would think they're talking about is Bowyer.Jenas is not going anywhere, dream on.

I think I've worked it out, its Hugo Viana, it makes more sence than anyone else + he's a left footed attacking centre midfielder jus like we are after. Totally over looked him at first as forgot he is still registered to newcastle.

[packt up]

Ha Jenas to the smoggies? Yeah right.

Bowyer is about the only one you'll be able to get. Maybe Faye if he's fallen out of favour already.

See ya Butt you heap of unquestionable shit.

[Doink]

Ha Jenas to the smoggies? Yeah right.

Bowyer is about the only one you'll be able to get. Maybe Faye if he's fallen out of favour already.

See ya Butt you heap of unquestionable shit.

See my prev post, I think it'll be Hugo Viana ! Anyway, why wouldnt we be able to get Jenas ?

At least we can offer him EUROPEAN football this year :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: ;)

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Phil Neville to Everton for £3.5m

Oh deary me :nono:

[Cool King]

Where the hell has this topic been? It wasn't here last time I checked.

Whatever, anyway, I think Gordon Strachan isn't doing a very good job as manager, I missed there match at Celtic Park but I watched the news to get the result and, yes they lost but I'm pretty sure they said that Strachan pushed the Bratislava manager for no reason, did he?

But anyway, I think the Bhoys will give him one more chance to shine.:cool:

[Doink]

Phil Neville to Everton for £3.5m

Oh deary me :nono:

I honestly never thought he would leave, every season he gets linked with moves (normally to us) but never goes, I thought this season would be the same.

[Londoner]

See my prev post, I think it'll be Hugo Viana ! Anyway, why wouldnt we be able to get Jenas ?

At least we can offer him EUROPEAN football this year :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: ;)


You wont be able to get jenas because he is important to the future of the club. I havent read your previous post yet, but Viana is in talks with Benfica the last i heard. And think about it, who is Souness more willing to sell and who has been criticising our chairman?Think logically. Oh wait, you can't, your a boro fan.:lol:

And Boro offering eurpean football?Hahahaha. You'll be the whooping boys of the competition.Lets see you get drawn against Deportivo and see how well you do.Your not giving Deportivo enough credit.

Newcastle is a big club and will be for the future, we will be in europe again next season.Atleast we have the chance to attract players like Owen, i don't see you trying to get him.That kinda shows you who's the bigger club in the north east now doesn't it?

[Londoner]

Where the hell has this topic been? It wasn't here last time I checked.

Whatever, anyway, I think Gordon Strachan isn't doing a very good job as manager, I missed there match at Celtic Park but I watched the news to get the result and, yes they lost but I'm pretty sure they said that Strachan pushed the Bratislava manager for no reason, did he?

But anyway, I think the Bhoys will give him one more chance to shine.:cool:

Give Strachan time.It's hard to attract players to Scotland, it kinda shows what Celtic are without Larsson, teams will no longer fear Celtic now until they get a player as good as him.Sometimes it is the players fault you know.

But yeah Strachan pushed the other manager in the last minuite of the game, got to give them credit for fighting back to 4-0.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

And Boro offering eurpean football?Hahahaha. You'll be the whooping boys of the competition.Lets see you get drawn against Deportivo and see how well you do.Your not giving Deportivo enough credit.

Depor went through because Newcastle committed defensive suicide, again. Boumsong fucked up by leaving Andrade to try and head a ball he had no right to go for, one goal. Then Robbie Elliott proves once again his complete shitness, 2nd goal. Apart from that I didn't see Depor offer too much. They have a new manager and are trying to work to a new system, it seemed to me a few of the players are still struggling to piece things together. They won't last that long, I don't think.

[Chavo Classic]

Phil Neville to Everton for £3.5m

Oh deary me :nono:

As a Liverpool fan, I spent about three and a half minutes laughing at Sky Sports News this morning when I saw that. That's great news.

"If the Nevilles play for England, so can I!" :rofl:

[packt up]

You wont be able to get jenas because he is important to the future of the club. I havent read your previous post yet, but Viana is in talks with Benfica the last i heard. And think about it, who is Souness more willing to sell and who has been criticising our chairman?Think logically. Oh wait, you can't, your a boro fan.:lol:

And Boro offering eurpean football?Hahahaha. You'll be the whooping boys of the competition.Lets see you get drawn against Deportivo and see how well you do.Your not giving Deportivo enough credit.

Newcastle is a big club and will be for the future, we will be in europe again next season.Atleast we have the chance to attract players like Owen, i don't see you trying to get him.That kinda shows you who's the bigger club in the north east now doesn't it?

Depor aren't all that great why do you think they are in the Intertoto in the first place? Newcastle are a big club but in stature only. In terms of players and organisation they are fucking shocking. And I'm a Newcastle fan. I know you are too but you are deluding yourself if you think Newcastle are going to walk back into Europe this season. I'm not saying they won't but it will be a struggle. The defence is thinner than last year and last year it was shambolic for most of the season. Up front we are thinner and are basically relying on Shearer who is now nearly 35. I think we will probably finish 9th or so unless more signings are made particularly in defence.

[Rob]

As a Liverpool fan, I spent about three and a half minutes laughing at Sky Sports News this morning when I saw that. That's great news.

"If the Nevilles play for England, so can I!" :rofl:

Gary Neville is the most underrated right back in Europe and it pains me to admit it. Phil Neville is underrated full stop. English fans have just shit on him since Euro 2002. When he replaced Butt in midfield for us, he looked quality. I can't really recall him ever having nightmares for United either.

[Bixente]

Community Shield coming up. I don't think it's that important. The most important thing is that Arsenal don't suffer any major injuries. A long-term injury to Senderos, or Henry, would be far worse than a loss in a meaningless game...oh, and the curse that shows that the winner never wins the title!

[Londoner]

Depor went through because Newcastle committed defensive suicide, again. Boumsong fucked up by leaving Andrade to try and head a ball he had no right to go for, one goal. Then Robbie Elliott proves once again his complete shitness, 2nd goal. Apart from that I didn't see Depor offer too much. They have a new manager and are trying to work to a new system, it seemed to me a few of the players are still struggling to piece things together. They won't last that long, I don't think.

I seem to remember Deportivo winning the spanish league a few years ago, they've just had a couple of bad seasons or something i think. There team is full of internationals, ours isn't. I agree our defence is shit.( i even joke sometimes that our defence is just the keeper/crossbar&goalposts)I heard were getting Coco who is a left back, and is far better than Elliot. I do fear for this next season if we don't get the striker we need, if we do get a striker to partner Shearer then we have a shot at sixth place, thats where my optimism(sp?) is coming from at the moment.

packt up- I don't think it will be easy though by any means, but were still a bigger club than Middlesborough overall is the main point i was trying to make. If we can make it to 6th place this season that would be way above all my expectations.Our organization is the thing that pisses me off the most to.I do wonder what Souness says to the players on the training ground.

[Londoner]

Community Shield coming up. I don't think it's that important. The most important thing is that Arsenal don't suffer any major injuries. A long-term injury to Senderos, or Henry, would be far worse than a loss in a meaningless game...oh, and the curse that shows that the winner never wins the title!


The trophy itsself isn't that important, but the fact that its Arsenal V Chelsea is. So i'll be watching it.

Oh and i agree with Rob about Phil Neville, he will definately improve Everton and it kinda surprisied me that Man Utd sold him.

[Cool King]

it kinda shows what Celtic are without Larsson.

I miss Larsson.:(

Do you think he will ever come back to Celtic?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I seem to remember Deportivo winning the spanish league a few years ago, they've just had a couple of bad seasons or something i think. There team is full of internationals, ours isn't. I agree our defence is shit.( i even joke sometimes that our defence is just the keeper/crossbar&goalposts)I heard were getting Coco who is a left back, and is far better than Elliot. I do fear for this next season if we don't get the striker we need, if we do get a striker to partner Shearer then we have a shot at sixth place, thats where my optimism(sp?) is coming from at the moment.

Real Sociedad came 2nd in the Liga a few years ago, look where they are now. Valencia won it a couple years back, look what's happened to them. Depor winning the league was like Everton finishing 4th, they had a better year than normal and played above themselves - plus they had some different players then. And Newcastle's team is full of internationals :|

Given
Carr
Boumsong
Babayaro
Jenas
Emre
Dyer
Bowyer (long time ago but still)
Parker (ok only the one cap or so but I'd be surprised if he plays regular if he doesn't get into a squad)
Shearer (retired yeah but he could probably still get in in an emergency)

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Deportivo had the likes of Naybett, Makaay and Djalminha back then. And Tristan was on top form.

[Cactus Sid]

Gary Neville is the most underrated right back in Europe and it pains me to admit it. Phil Neville is underrated full stop.

It pains me even more to admit it.

I don't think there is a player who has been as consistent as Gary Neville in the last 10 years or so and Phil Neville is a decent enough player who can play in a variety of positions. He'll be a good signing for Everton....sadly :(

[The Mackem]

Stubbsy is going to win us the Premiership :cool:

[Londoner]

Real Sociedad came 2nd in the Liga a few years ago, look where they are now. Valencia won it a couple years back, look what's happened to them. Depor winning the league was like Everton finishing 4th, they had a better year than normal and played above themselves - plus they had some different players then. And Newcastle's team is full of internationals :|

Given
Carr
Boumsong
Babayaro
Jenas
Emre
Dyer
Bowyer (long time ago but still)
Parker (ok only the one cap or so but I'd be surprised if he plays regular if he doesn't get into a squad)
Shearer (retired yeah but he could probably still get in in an emergency)

I actually said 'full of' meaning the whole Deportivo team. We only have a few.For example, deportivo subbed there top intenational spanish striker for another international striker.Can't remember who but thats what the commentator said, also the other striekr was an international. Deportivo are a decent team, i always expect them to finish high in the spanish league.

But did you see how Parker looked for the right pass everytime and held up the ball? Unlike the rest of the midfield(besides Emre) who just wack it up the pitch and hope for the best. Emre/Parker will be key for us, i can see them being a good combination in midfield, if we get the striker were after then we can really do some damage.