Football Talk 2005-2006 (Soccer) [Archive] - Page 3

Wengerland

08-05-2005, 12:20 PM

Well Naybet plays for Spurs now, and Tristan hasn't been good for a number of years but losing to Depor is nothing really embarrasing, they're like Newcastle i suppose. I didn't see any of the games but it just sounds like the manner in which you went out (defensive errors by the sounds of it) which should be annoying.

Figo has joined Inter, and Jenas could well be leaving Newcastle, with Tottenham interested because they obviously don't have enough central midfield players :|

Chavo Classic

08-05-2005, 12:26 PM

Real Sociedad came 2nd in the Liga a few years ago, look where they are now. Valencia won it a couple years back, look what's happened to them. Depor winning the league was like Everton finishing 4th, they had a better year than normal and played above themselves - plus they had some different players then. And Newcastle's team is full of internationals :|

Given
Carr
Boumsong
Babayaro
Jenas
Emre
Dyer
Bowyer (long time ago but still)
Parker (ok only the one cap or so but I'd be surprised if he plays regular if he doesn't get into a squad)
Shearer (retired yeah but he could probably still get in in an emergency)

NUFC fans need to wake up and stop deluding themselves. Your club is in the shits. Freddy Sheppard has sold you all out and your defence is thinner than Alan Shearer's hair. There is very little chance of you making the top six this season considering the competition for European places.

Unless serious signings are made in defence and a new striker is brought into the club things are not going to improve. Souness is going to kill your team just like he liked mine ten years ago. Be prepared for a long, barron spell and remember the good old days when you were 12 points clear and the country loved you. Now you'll be lucky to get 12 points from the first 6 games and the country looks at you like a laughing stock.

Doink

08-05-2005, 01:16 PM

El Capitano Gatisto

08-05-2005, 01:17 PM

Naybett and Tristan still play for them and our good players still, not sure about Djalminha but i think he's still there.They still have players like Andrade/Valeron&Luque though. But i wont deny it was our defensive mistakes that fucked the match up for us.

Naybett and Djalminha don't.

Also, Deportivo's squad all apparently hated each other last year and seemed to quite regularly fight (with the coach as well) on the training ground. Luque wants out, Tristan has talked about wanting out. Messed up team.

Dazz

08-05-2005, 01:37 PM

They fell apart four years ago when they sold us Slavisa Jokanovic.

Mr. Monday Morning

08-05-2005, 04:08 PM

NUFC fans need to wake up and stop deluding themselves. Your club is in the shits. Freddy Sheppard has sold you all out and your defence is thinner than Alan Shearer's hair. There is very little chance of you making the top six this season considering the competition for European places.

Unless serious signings are made in defence and a new striker is brought into the club things are not going to improve. Souness is going to kill your team just like he liked mine ten years ago. Be prepared for a long, barron spell and remember the good old days when you were 12 points clear and the country loved you. Now you'll be lucky to get 12 points from the first 6 games and the country looks at you like a laughing stock.

<--- Just going to point out this thing here in case there's any confusion

Ogen

08-05-2005, 05:28 PM

I miss Larsson.:(

Do you think he will ever come back to Celtic?

Nah he'll have another year at Barca I'd say then he always said he wanted to finish in Sweeden so I assume he'll head back there at some stage. No need to go back to Celtic now hes already a full fledged legend there.

Ogen

08-05-2005, 05:50 PM

Whens teh fantasy football start then

Londoner

08-05-2005, 07:42 PM

TL, seriously do you honestly think Owen will go to newcastle, do you honestly think they bid for Rooney, do you honestly think they asked about Viduka?

The answer is no to all. They, like every other team in any league are using the big name tactics to try and sell more season tickets/shirts/merchandise. Owen will not go to newcastle purley because they arnt consistant enough for him. I dont mean result wise I mean as they arnt constantly in the champions league. If Owen comes back he will go to United or Arsenal.

Newcastle are not the biggest team in the northeast, if you go by local fans with season tickets within a 10 mile radius you will find Boro are. If you go by stadium capacity then Newcastle are, If you ask The Mackum then Sunderland are. If you go by results then last season Boro are.

Your club is in a mess on and off the pitch and now Jenas is unhappy. So back to what I said before ......... JENAS for Boro ?????? haha

You have totally missed the point of my posts.

Firstly, what i meant about Owen was, he had more of a chance of being attracted to us than you. And we have the money to bring players like him, hey did you buy Emre and Parker? Erm lets see, NO!The reason also why we bidded for Rooney was something to do with our chairman(being the criminal shit that he is) knowing Rooneys agent, and Man Utd were always going to get him, but the agent wanted more money from the transfer so he contacted our chairman to make a high bid first, which would force Man Utd to rush their bid and make a higher one, and so the 'bidding war' began.We were never seriously after him.It was for no other purpose than Rooneys agent, i think Kenny Dalglish was invovled to but i don't remember how, but thats how i remember the story.

Thirdly,football fans only talk about the short term. over history we have won more than you, you have won one fucking trophy. Thats it. I think about the long-term of things, unlike most dumbass football fans.(and yes, i am talking about you)

Finally, yes our club is a mess. Do you read my posts you stupid retard?I have already said our organization is shocking/our chairman is a criminal.And Shepherd has denied Jenas has asked for a transfer, i think its Jenas's agent trying to get him a move to one of the top four clubs.

Now read that post properly if you can you dumb shit.

Londoner

08-05-2005, 07:46 PM

NUFC fans need to wake up and stop deluding themselves. Your club is in the shits. Freddy Sheppard has sold you all out and your defence is thinner than Alan Shearer's hair. There is very little chance of you making the top six this season considering the competition for European places.

Unless serious signings are made in defence and a new striker is brought into the club things are not going to improve. Souness is going to kill your team just like he liked mine ten years ago. Be prepared for a long, barron spell and remember the good old days when you were 12 points clear and the country loved you. Now you'll be lucky to get 12 points from the first 6 games and the country looks at you like a laughing stock.

The sad thing is, weve been through worse. Its through times like these that decide who the true supporters are.And i'm a supporter for the long-term.

Londoner

08-05-2005, 07:51 PM

Naybett and Djalminha don't.

Also, Deportivo's squad all apparently hated each other last year and seemed to quite regularly fight (with the coach as well) on the training ground. Luque wants out, Tristan has talked about wanting out. Messed up team.

Wow, i didn't know that. That sounds completely like us.I forgot Naybett was at spurs now, dunnow here djalminha has gone, i always thought of him as a deportivo player.

And by the way to anyone who's overreacting to my comment about we could do some serious damage, i said that if we get the striker we need then we could do some damage, but as of right now teams are just isolating alan shearer, so it doesn't look good. I predict Arsenal will win 5-0 against us on the opening day.:( :(

Mr. Monday Morning

08-06-2005, 04:45 AM

Yeah pretty much the whole reason Pandiani is at Birmingham now is because he criticised like half the squad for being lazy bastards and not trying.

Mr. Monday Morning

08-06-2005, 06:43 AM

NEW SEASON, WOOOOOOOOO

Mike the Metal Ed

08-06-2005, 09:46 AM

4-1... TO THE REFEREE... 4-1... TO THE REFEREE....

Mike the Metal Ed

08-06-2005, 09:47 AM

To be fair, Sheff Utd's last 2 goals were poor defending, but you'd have to be blind (or possibly Dazz) to deny that the second "penalty" changed the match.

Mike the Metal Ed

08-06-2005, 09:58 AM

We shouldn't have got rid of Gillespie either.

Londoner

08-06-2005, 10:21 AM

And that match shows you how refereeing decisions can change the game. No doubt that ref was giving the home team the advantage just because they were at home.I hate stupid refs like that.And Gillespie is a good player, i still don't understand why we(newcastle) got rid of him.

Cactus Sid

08-06-2005, 02:10 PM

Saw Torquay today seeing as I was home, one of the worst games I have ever seen, makes me want the Premiership season to start even sooner.

Wengerland

08-06-2005, 03:08 PM

I doubt you'll see a side play as well as that and lose 4-1. The ref was generally shit, we got a few cheap free-kicks, and then the 2nd penalty, though as someone who normally says 'you shouldn't put your arm out' i can't and won't have many complaints about that. Shouldn't have let that affect us as badly as we did though.

Still optimistic though :D Mackem's lads didn't make a great start last season and West Brom got spanked 4-1 on the opening day 2 years ago and came up.

Nervous Ferret

08-06-2005, 03:56 PM

This topic is nothing but a spam thread.

Cactus Sid

08-06-2005, 04:13 PM

That's because there isn't anything to talk about until next saturday

Nervous Ferret

08-06-2005, 04:14 PM

NFL preseason play opens?

deathtrap

08-07-2005, 04:16 AM

Why do you have so much posts in so little time?

Predictions for todays game.

I think it will be 2-1 to Arsenal.
Chelsea will take the lead, through Duff or Robben, whichever's playing, until Arsenal get the goals with Hleb/Ljungberg and Henry.

Rob Ban Fan

08-07-2005, 07:39 AM

score draw, Chelsea to win on penalties.

toxic rooster

08-07-2005, 09:17 AM

it's a shame nobody here could be arsed get the tv "roights". Bloody Ashes :mad:

toxic rooster

08-07-2005, 09:17 AM

Not that cricket isn't excellent or anything :o

toxic rooster

08-07-2005, 10:26 AM

Oh good, it's on ESPN just they chose not to list it properly or anything. Good to see we've gone back to the gold strips and we're losing in the Community shield which basically means we've got the premiership all sewn up.

Lehmann's red strip :spew:

Cactus Sid

08-07-2005, 12:03 PM

Claude Makelele has got to be one of the best players in the world

El Capitano Gatisto

08-07-2005, 12:13 PM

Arsenal will not win the league with a defence that poor. They need to invest in an experienced, top class central defender. The rest of their team is as strong as ever.

diothoir

08-07-2005, 08:23 PM

Mighty Leeds. :heart:

toxic rooster

08-08-2005, 04:55 AM

poo

Mr. Monday Morning

08-08-2005, 05:05 AM

Southampton are the luckiest team in the world at this moment :mad:

Mr. Monday Morning

08-08-2005, 05:05 AM

Also sorry about the fantasy thing, my cable modem's been down since Friday, getting it fixed today, shall sort it out later.

Chavo Classic

08-08-2005, 11:42 AM

Arsenal will not win the league with a defence that poor. They need to invest in an experienced, top class central defender. The rest of their team is as strong as ever.

How many times did a ball over the top or a through-ball (from the half way line no less) catch out Arsenal's defence? Were they even interested in man marking? In a game where Drgoba can score a brace, you know that youre defence has problems.

Rob Ban Fan

08-08-2005, 11:47 AM

Just done my fantasy team and joined the league.

de Zeeuw might be going back to Wigan :(

ZOOOOOOOOOOOOO :wavesad: :'(:'(

Dazz

08-08-2005, 12:38 PM

Wooo won a tenner on the footy, £3 on Del Horno for first goal didn't pay off but the £2 on 2-1 did :cool:. Got abit pissed and nearly fell over when Drogba scored his first, can't remember for the life of me who scored Arsenals goal or how, think I remember where the ball finished but thats about it.

Great day.

El Capitano Gatisto

08-08-2005, 01:09 PM

How many times did a ball over the top or a through-ball (from the half way line no less) catch out Arsenal's defence? Were they even interested in man marking? In a game where Drgoba can score a brace, you know that youre defence has problems.

Drogba is unplayable when he's in that kind of form. I think he has loads of goals in him if he gets his touch and finishing right, as he did at Marseille. Big "if" though. He tore teams apart on his own that season in Europe.

Dazz

08-08-2005, 01:11 PM

Drogba is a great target main and a top diver, thats the two things Jose likes about him, I love him as he is great at his job and is really good at making assists too.

Can't wait for this season.

packt up

08-08-2005, 01:41 PM

Drogba - Last season he couldn't finish for shit, the season before he could. See how he does this time around. I still feel he's the most overpriced Chelsea player.

packt up

08-08-2005, 01:44 PM

Newcastle are not the biggest team in the northeast, if you go by local fans with season tickets within a 10 mile radius you will find Boro are. If you go by stadium capacity then Newcastle are, If you ask The Mackum then Sunderland are. If you go by results then last season Boro are.

LOL what. Going on local fans?! Don't pull that shit. There are hardly any non local Newcastle fans who attend games whilst Boro can't even fill their shitty emotionless stadium with "local fans".

Stick to the facts - you finished above us - thats it.

Dazz

08-08-2005, 01:50 PM

Drogba - Last season he couldn't finish for shit, the season before he could. See how he does this time around. I still feel he's the most overpriced Chelsea player.

Drogba was quality last season, he turned your lot over at the Bridge too. I don't know what game you are thinking of other then WBA at home fopr us, but he was far from shit. Been immense the last two seasons.

The mosat overpriced Chelsea player is Scott Parker. Drogba is worth every penny for what he brings.

Doink

08-08-2005, 02:47 PM

You have totally missed the point of my posts.

Firstly, what i meant about Owen was, he had more of a chance of being attracted to us than you. And we have the money to bring players like him, hey did you buy Emre and Parker? Erm lets see, NO!The reason also why we bidded for Rooney was something to do with our chairman(being the criminal shit that he is) knowing Rooneys agent, and Man Utd were always going to get him, but the agent wanted more money from the transfer so he contacted our chairman to make a high bid first, which would force Man Utd to rush their bid and make a higher one, and so the 'bidding war' began.We were never seriously after him.It was for no other purpose than Rooneys agent, i think Kenny Dalglish was invovled to but i don't remember how, but thats how i remember the story.

Thirdly,football fans only talk about the short term. over history we have won more than you, you have won one fucking trophy. Thats it. I think about the long-term of things, unlike most dumbass football fans.(and yes, i am talking about you)

Finally, yes our club is a mess. Do you read my posts you stupid retard?I have already said our organization is shocking/our chairman is a criminal.And Shepherd has denied Jenas has asked for a transfer, i think its Jenas's agent trying to get him a move to one of the top four clubs.

Now read that post properly if you can you dumb shit.

Sorry boys, I thought this was a football thread not a fishing one as you and packt up are biting like fuck :lol:

Doink

08-08-2005, 02:51 PM

Also the clubs history is something that the clubs fans bring up to try and defend how poor their team is at present.

Leeds have a good history, how does that compare to where they are now?

Londoner

08-08-2005, 04:46 PM

Sorry boys, I thought this was a football thread not a fishing one as you and packt up are biting like fuck :lol:

Oh look. You can't reply to my post so you come up with a lame comeback. What a surprise, and pretty typical of a Boro fan really. You should understand what the term 'big club' means.A big club earns such a status over a period of time.If Wigan finish above Boro this season, would you say they're a bigger club than you? No. Point proven.

Londoner

08-08-2005, 04:49 PM

Also the clubs history is something that the clubs fans bring up to try and defend how poor their team is at present.

Leeds have a good history, how does that compare to where they are now?

It means they're still a big club. You are proving my point by using this example if anything.How many times do you hear people calling leeds a big club?Infact how many times did you hear people say west ham are a big club and belong in the premiership even though they were in division 1?Its a status earnt over a period of time, not just from winning one trophy or having a good season.

packt up

08-08-2005, 06:12 PM

Sorry boys, I thought this was a football thread not a fishing one as you and packt up are biting like fuck :lol:

Biting on your false claims yes.

Ogen

08-08-2005, 06:33 PM

Rio's signed his deal

deathtrap

08-09-2005, 06:18 AM

Surely Veron is the most over-priced Chelsea player?

Doink

08-09-2005, 08:35 AM

It means they're still a big club. You are proving my point by using this example if anything.How many times do you hear people calling leeds a big club?Infact how many times did you hear people say west ham are a big club and belong in the premiership even though they were in division 1?Its a status earnt over a period of time, not just from winning one trophy or having a good season.

Firstly, who is the person constantly pointing out that boro won a cup ? what ? o thats right its you, not me. How long has it been since you won anything? At least Boro fans live in Boro, Man U fans live in London but fucking Newcastle fans are living in the past!!!!!!

Secondly my point was that a clubs history does not determine if they are a big club. IMO a big club is a club that achieve's year in year out and constantly win things.

There was a team that won a cup once, they were called Wimbledon, where are they now? Sheffield Wednesday have a good history, are they still a 'big club' ?

I dont know if a moron such as yourself will have heard of the saying 'your only as good as your last game', how many managers will go into a game against Newcastle saying 'look these guys got beat 2-1 in there last game, defensive errors costing them the game,however instead of looking at how we can take advantage of that we will look at the clubs history and plan around the team that won a cup in 19whenever' ???????

it doesnt happen does it. grow up TL your team is not a big team, nor a big club!

Doink

08-09-2005, 08:41 AM

On a slightly more interseting note:

Ref says sorry to the fans

Aug 8 2005

By Evening Gazette

A German referee who admitted fixing football matches has apologised to Boro fans for testing his scam on the club.
Robert Hoyzer, 25, said he tested a money-spinning match rigging plan when Boro lost 3-1 to Hansa Rostock in a pre-season friendly in Germany last summer.
He claimed it was the first fixture where he deliberately intervened with decisions to influence the game in an experiment to see how easy it was to affect a result.
At the time, Boro fans' websites were swamped with claims that the referee was dodgy. Hoyzer, who later admitted 'fixing' a number of German league and cup games, has now publicly apologised to Teesside supporters.
"I'm very sorry and I hope in spite of this that they (Boro fans) will still keep travelling away to watch their team," he said in an interview this weekend.
"Once again I would like to offer my profuse apologies to the fans."
Hoyzer admitted fixing a number of matches in Germany after he was arrested in January. He could now face criminal charges that could see him jailed for up to ten years.
Rob Nichols, editor of Boro's Fly Me To The Moon fanzine, said: "In all my time supporting Boro, this is the most bizarre story I have ever heard.
"It is like something out of a comic. His apology isn't good enough though. It is amazing to think that someone could use our friendly to try this out."
It is claimed Hoyzer was receiving payments from a Croatian betting syndicate.
Hoyzer registered as a referee in 2003 but his career came to an abrupt end in January 2005.
He was suspected of betting on a German Cup tie between regional league side Paderborn and Bundesliga club Hamburger SV on August 21, 2004, which Paderborn won 4-2.
He resigned as a referee and was banned for life by the German Football Association.

Mr. Monday Morning

08-09-2005, 09:02 AM

Just a note to anyone who doesn't check their PMs to...well, check their PMs, if you haven't already.

...yeah.

Londoner

08-09-2005, 10:35 AM

Firstly, who is the person constantly pointing out that boro won a cup ? what ? o thats right its you, not me. How long has it been since you won anything? At least Boro fans live in Boro, Man U fans live in London but fucking Newcastle fans are living in the past!!!!!!

Secondly my point was that a clubs history does not determine if they are a big club. IMO a big club is a club that achieve's year in year out and constantly win things.

There was a team that won a cup once, they were called Wimbledon, where are they now? Sheffield Wednesday have a good history, are they still a 'big club' ?

You are a stupid little retard. How many times do you hear people saying 'newcastle is a big club' compared to 'middlesborough are a big club'?

Sheffield Wednesday are still a big club, wimbledon no longer exist in the way they did before. So they don't count because there new clubs have no history.

And yes it was me who said you won the trophy, wow, so what?I was using what you've done in recent history in the argument. I was saying that you don't become a big club overnight, you do it over a PERIOD OF TIME. Is that so hard for you to understand?Boro are a mediocre club when it coems to rep/history and whatever else. Newcastle top them as far as the term 'big club' is cocnerned, ask any journalist, ask any 'football expert' they will say exactly the same thing.

Wake up to reality mate, its a harsh world.:)

Just one more thing though before i finish this post..

Just quoting the last point of your post: "I dont know if a moron such as yourself will have heard of the saying 'your only as good as your last game', how many managers will go into a game against Newcastle saying 'look these guys got beat 2-1 in there last game, defensive errors costing them the game,however instead of looking at how we can take advantage of that we will look at the clubs history and plan around the team that won a cup in 19whenever' ???????'

You may be a better team than us now, but that doesn't mean your a bigger club.I am not going to explain this again to a retard such as yourself.The fact you say were not a big club at all is fucking laughable.Its impossible to try and have an intelligent conversation about football when retards like you don't understand football.I would even say Sunderland are a bigger club than boro by the way, and im not joking. Look at their history compared to yours.

Londoner

08-09-2005, 10:40 AM

Doink, i advise you to read this page under the section 'north east' it says newcastle are the biggest club in england, then sunderland. And it has facts to prove why that is. Go read and learn some fucking football history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_in_England

Doink

08-09-2005, 12:07 PM

Yes there it is, yet again you refer to the history of the club. TL why dont you go jump off the tyne bridge and die you stupid fuckin inbred gordie piece of shite!

If you actually read my interpretation of what I class as a 'big club' you will see newcastle fall well short of this criteria (as do sunderland & boro).

Yet again I have to tell you it doesnt matter what your team did back in the day as it has FUCK ALL to do with how good they are now!

The best team in the northeast by far last year was not newcastle, sunderland or boro, it was hartlepool.

Now go take your thumb out of your arse and learn some football knowledge you fucking dicknose!

LOL,this is what you asked me to read :

The North-East
The north-east of England has experienced some exciting times in football, but most of that excitement was an age ago.

Newcastle United are perhaps the biggest club in the north-east of England. They last won the league championship in 1927, although they were strong title contenders in the 1995-96 and 1996-97 seasons and finished runners-up both times - in 1995-96 they led for most of the season by a comfortable margin before being overhauled by Manchester United. The last major trophy to grace the St James's Park boardroom was the 1969 UEFA Cup, and no domestic trophies have been lifted by the club since the 1955 F.A Cup

Yeh last league title of the 'PERHAPS' biggest club in the northeast was in 1927 and last lifted a cup in 1955, to quote again from what you asked me to read, i give you :

The north-east of England has experienced some exciting times in football, but most of that excitement was an AGE AGO.

So acording to this, winning a trophy is not exciting. Is this even an english artical? are you even english? Do you support newcastle based on this artical???

Rob

08-09-2005, 12:15 PM

Portsmouth just agreed a fee with Wigan for Arjan De Zeeuw.

Sorry Owen.

Mr. Monday Morning

08-09-2005, 12:28 PM

I think we can all agree that Wolves are by far the greatest team the world has ever seen.

Rob Ban Fan

08-09-2005, 12:47 PM

ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :'(:'(:'(

packt up

08-09-2005, 02:27 PM

Doink have you heard the term "sleeping giant".

This refers to big clubs who are in lower divisions and yet are still big. See Wolves, Nottingham Forrest and Manchester City a few years ago. A club doesn't have to be succesful to be big. Good day to you sir.

Doink

08-09-2005, 02:38 PM

A club doesn't have to be succesful to be big

So why are both yourself and TL throwing up the history of newcastle as a back up for them being an alleged 'big club' ??

anyway all this started because I said Jenas for boro, he's not even that good a player, now like any good fisherman knows, you have to throw the little tiddlers back so packt up and TL get yourself back in the pond, i'm done with both of you on this matter! :kiss:

Doink

08-09-2005, 02:51 PM

Portsmouth just agreed a fee with Wigan for Arjan De Zeeuw.

Isnt he about 35 now? I think he will do alright for them, however IMO i dont think they will avoid the drop. Ellington will score a few goals and get into double figures but Roberts wont score enough. Kavanagh :love: I meet him in whitby a few years ago, his mrs was mint back then!!

Ogen

08-09-2005, 02:57 PM

God enough of the retarded Boro - Newcastle argument. Neither of you are doing anything this year and Newcastle are a far bigger side.

Rob

08-09-2005, 04:43 PM

Chavo Classic

08-09-2005, 04:46 PM

is that Everton I see losing 2-1? Don't worry boys, you can come see the European Cup displayed all so beautifully in our trophy room.

http://www.iknow-northwest.co.uk/tourist_information/liverpool/liverpool_centre/liverpool_football_club.htm

Mr. Monday Morning

08-09-2005, 04:53 PM

Oh dear Simon Jordan :cool:

packt up

08-09-2005, 05:00 PM

You know what gets me about Newcastle? How everyone goes on about how their fans "deserve sucess". How the hell do they deserve anything or deserve more than fans of say Hull, Rotherham or Plymouth? They deserve what they get. Fuck all.

Don't know how Newcastle are any bigger than Boro. Nobody outside the North East of England gives a toss about either :p

Yeah I'm not a fan of that deserving stuff. All I'll say is that Newcastle fans are some of the most loyal but then so are alot of other teams fans.

And FUCK YOU :p

Dazz

08-09-2005, 05:24 PM

I can't believe Pompey got anything for De Zeeuw :lol:

Admit it Owen, he is shit.

Wengerland

08-09-2005, 06:03 PM

David Connolly you little genius :love:

Could be recalled to the Ireland squad.

El Capitano Gatisto

08-09-2005, 06:16 PM

Let's hope not.

Rob Ban Fan

08-10-2005, 06:41 AM

I can't believe Pompey got anything for De Zeeuw :lol:

Admit it Owen, he is shit.

No.

Chavo Classic

08-10-2005, 07:53 AM

Yeah I'm not a fan of that deserving stuff. All I'll say is that Newcastle fans are some of the most loyal but then so are alot of other teams fans.

And FUCK YOU :p

Bollocks. Back in the old first division before promotion to the top league, you guys couldn't fill St James. So don't give us that old bullshit. It's the fucking same with Leeds United. Now they're in the Championship, Elland road looks half empty everyweek even though their fans claimed the same "we're the loyalest fans". Surprising how the number of fans turning up at Rhinos and Tykes games has increased though.

Face it, football fans are fickle. I guarantee if Liverpool were relegated, then I wouldn't have so much trouble getting hold of tickets every weekend.

Londoner

08-10-2005, 08:00 AM

LOL, Doink, your ridiculous. Did you not see the part 'newcastle are perhaps the biggest club in the north east?"

And now iot's time to slice your argument up till it no longer exists, you said:

"The best team in the northeast by far last year was not newcastle, sunderland or boro, it was hartlepool."

HA, you are talking about the best team where as i am talking about the biggest club. There is a huge difference between the two. if you want to say who the best team in the north east last year, the newcastle would be last on the list. But that is not part of my argument, Newcastle may not have the BEST TEAM but we are still the BIGGEST CLUB in the north east. If boro or sunderland have a success over a period of time that gets past what weve done, then they will be bigger clubs than us, but so far they haven't done that.

You also said:

"Yet again I have to tell you it doesnt matter what your team did back in the day as it has FUCK ALL to do with how good they are now!"

And yet again i'm telling you it does matter, fuck sake.Best team/big club are two different things that your getting confused with .

You also said:

"So acording to this, winning a trophy is not exciting. Is this even an english artical? are you even english? Do you support newcastle based on this artical???"

I have supported newcastle for ten years you stupid retard. How does that article say that winning trophy is not exciting?Funny you should say i'm not english when you can't even spell properly.

Londoner

08-10-2005, 08:04 AM

So why are both yourself and TL throwing up the history of newcastle as a back up for them being an alleged 'big club' ??

anyway all this started because I said Jenas for boro, he's not even that good a player, now like any good fisherman knows, you have to throw the little tiddlers back so packt up and TL get yourself back in the pond, i'm done with both of you on this matter! :kiss:

Packt up was talking shit. You do have to be successful to be a truly big club.People get mixed up between 'best teams'/'big clubs' too much.

Londoner

08-10-2005, 08:09 AM

Bollocks. Back in the old first division before promotion to the top league, you guys couldn't fill St James. So don't give us that old bullshit. It's the fucking same with Leeds United. Now they're in the Championship, Elland road looks half empty everyweek even though their fans claimed the same "we're the loyalest fans". Surprising how the number of fans turning up at Rhinos and Tykes games has increased though.

Face it, football fans are fickle. I guarantee if Liverpool were relegated, then I wouldn't have so much trouble getting hold of tickets every weekend.

I'm pretty sure liverpool fans would still turn up.But your right football fans are fickle, i don't think i'm one of those though. Look at what Newcastle have been through these last ten years and then try saying i'm not loyal.If i could get a season ticket i would, but it would take forever for me to get one because the season ticket waiting list is so fucking long.

Also i heard the leeds utd ticket prices have gone up by 25%, so that could explain why. What a dumb move to make when your in the championship.:roll:

Londoner

08-10-2005, 08:15 AM

You know what gets me about Newcastle? How everyone goes on about how their fans "deserve sucess". How the hell\0\0?Iik\0\0\0\0I\onything or deserve more than fans of say Hull, Rotherham or Plymouth? They deserve what they get. Fuck all.

Don't know how Newcastle are any bigger than Boro. Nobody outside the North East of England gives a toss about either :p

Its all to do with how successful the history is between the clubs. And i think your wrong on that statement that no one gives a shit about Newcastle, in another forum i go on a few people have said we are the most interesting club in the EPL.:cool:

Ogen

08-10-2005, 08:28 AM

Interesting as in it being hilarious to laugh at how deluided your fans are.

Londoner

08-10-2005, 08:33 AM

Ogen, could you explain why i am deluded?Do you retards even read what i say? How is me saying we have a shit team now being deluded?How is me saying our chairman is a criminal being deluded? We are a big club whether you like it or not. Funny how we are always mentioned in the same list as man utd/arsenal/chelsea/&liverpool. Don't forget we had a period of dominance in the 50's. Then liveerpool took over, then arsenal and then man utd and now chelsea. that is why were always mentioned with those clubs.

Wake up to the real world you stupid retards.

Doink

08-10-2005, 09:07 AM

Its all to do with how successful the history is between the clubs. And i think your wrong on that statement that no one gives a shit about Newcastle, in another forum i go on a few people have said we are the most interesting club in the EPL.:cool:

What website was it, Newcastle United's official Forum's !!

Please do us all a favour and just stop, noone gives a fuck.

Doink

08-10-2005, 09:09 AM

Just incase you havent realised by now :

i'm done with you on this matter!

Now go to hell and learn a new insult other than retard :foc:

Londoner

08-10-2005, 10:16 AM

What website was it, Newcastle United's official Forum's !!

Please do us all a favour and just stop, noone gives a fuck.

Erm no, a sports interactive forum actually.And now you realise you've lost the argument you want to stop, how typical and fickle of you.

Londoner

08-10-2005, 10:17 AM

And if you are 'done with this matter' then why did you just reply again?

Mr. Monday Morning

08-10-2005, 10:26 AM

I can almost guarantee we'll have a higher average attendance than Wigan this year. Because Wigan are a small club :cool:

25000+ last night :yes:

Doink

08-10-2005, 10:43 AM

Erm no, a sports interactive forum actually.And now you realise you've lost the argument you want to stop, how typical and fickle of you.

Firstly, I've lost no argument as you are a prick who doesnt understand anything so I gave up trying to educate you.

Secondly, there are more interesting things happening in the world of football other than you thinking that you support a big team, an example of this is:

Francesco Coco's proposed loan switch to Newcastle United has been scrapped.

The Internazionale defender has been training with Graeme Souness's side and even figured in the pre-season friendly with Yeading.

Souness ran the rule over the Italian with a view to completing a long-term loan agreement with Inter.

However, United were unable to reach a satisfactory conclusion to their negotiations and the left back is scheduled to return to Milan.

:lol: now fuck off :foc:

also in other news, Liverpool's Sami Hyypia has agreed on a new contract with the European champions.

Bolton are in talks with Fiorentina playmaker Hidetoshi Nakata.

Londoner

08-10-2005, 11:08 AM

Firstly, I've lost no argument as you are a prick who doesnt understand anything so I gave up trying to educate you.

Secondly, there are more interesting things happening in the world of football other than you thinking that you support a big team, an example of this is:

Francesco Coco's proposed loan switch to Newcastle United has been scrapped.

The Internazionale defender has been training with Graeme Souness's side and even figured in the pre-season friendly with Yeading.

Souness ran the rule over the Italian with a view to completing a long-term loan agreement with Inter.

However, United were unable to reach a satisfactory conclusion to their negotiations and the left back is scheduled to return to Milan.

:lol: now fuck off :foc:
.

Ok so a player didn't come to us, so what?Babayaro is good enough,coco was just being brought in for back up in that position.

You are a complete fucking retard if you think we aren't/never were a big club, and have made yourslef look like a total fucking idiot and i'm sure everyone is aware of that.

You trying to educate me?What a joke.Find me something that says Middlesborough are a bigger club than newcastle(an unbiased article that is) and then you'll have some evidence to back up your opinion, but as of now thats all it is AN OPINION. Atleast i've backed my opinion up, now its your turn, but let me guess, your going to drop out of the argument because you can't find anything, right? Go on. Find the article you fucking prick.

Doink

08-10-2005, 11:34 AM

yourslef look like a total fucking idiot
You trying to educate me?What a joke.

I think you will find it is spelt YOURSELF, I will put it in a form you will understand, hummmmmmmm let me think, o I've got it

go and fuck YOURSELF !

Londoner

08-10-2005, 11:39 AM

Ever heard of a typo?I'm done with you now until you find that article.

Doink

08-10-2005, 12:00 PM

TL i as done with you about 26 replies ago!

Now stop spamming up the boards with this pointless shite, we all get it, you think newcastle are a big club and have produced an artical that says they probably are.

So fuck, noone but you cares, if you want to continue this then do it by PMing me and we can carry it on from there otherwise leave this thread to get back to talking about football and not just newcastle or boro ok? thank you .

Doink

08-10-2005, 12:14 PM

Londoner

08-10-2005, 12:16 PM

I just said i'm done with you unless you give me evidence to support your opinion, you havent even done that yet.And yet you still continued to attack me.You expect me to shut up when you are trying to provoke a reaction?If you wish to continue this debate in pm then go ahead, just make sure you have evidence to back your opinion up before you do.

Londoner

08-10-2005, 12:19 PM

Fulham forward Steve Marlet could be set to continue his career in Germany as Wolfsburg are keen to lure the former French international to Die Bundesliga.

Newcastle have also ended their interest in Anelka, Newcastle have now decided to drop their interest in Anelka after being put off by Fenerbahce's stand to keep him.

thats not a piss take by the way TL, i'm just reporting the news.

You were taking the piss earlier though, don't deny it. It's so obvious. If you report news properly like that then thats the better way to do it.

As for the article, Anelka was always a surprise to me since he had only been at fenerbache for a few months.

Doink

08-10-2005, 01:21 PM

earlier I was taking the piss, i'm man enough to admit that! Anelka is a waste of space, you will be better off without him. Joseph Job is for sale if you wanna buy him haha!

Doink

08-10-2005, 01:28 PM

I cant wait for saturday people, not only is it the big kick off in the premier league but it is also Bolo Zendens return to the riverside!

I think he will be another Ziege and chicken out everytime we play his team, I dont know why tho as he will get a decent reception as we all knew he was only on a 1 year contract and most fans expected him to leave anyway.

What is everyone else looking forward to this saturday ??

Doink

08-10-2005, 02:04 PM

Jose Mourinho and Ashley Cole have both lost their appeals against the Premier League's 'tapping up' verdict, but have seen their fines reduced.

After a hearing in central London, Mourinho and Cole saw their guilty verdicts upheld but both had their fines cut to £75,000.

That signifies a major reduction for Chelsea boss Mourinho who was initially hit with a £200,000 sanction.

Cole has had his financial punishment reduced by 25 percent having originally been ordered to pay £100,000.

"In regard to the appeals by Ashley Cole and Jose Mourinho, the Premier League appeals committee has reminded themselves of the evidence in both cases and received submissions from the respective legal representatives," read a Premier League statement.

Rob Ban Fan

08-10-2005, 04:14 PM

What is everyone else looking forward to this saturday ??

I'm looking forward to meeting my mate and discussing our prefered lineups on the train to Fratton. I'm looking forward to buying a programme from the same old fat guy on the way to the ground. I'm looking forward to going into the same old turnstyle and saying "alright?" to the old guy in the turnstyle even though i know he never replies. I'm looking forward to going up the stairs and seeing the pitch and players warming up as you get to the top :'(:'(!!!!!

I'm looking forward to saying hi and smiling at the stupid old bitch and her husband that sit behind me that I hate. I'm looking forward to the fat kid and his mate that sit next to me. I'm looking forward to the fat kid and his dad with two different coloured eyes that sit infront of me. I'm looking forward to the odd bald guy who sits next to my mate and always makes fun of how my mate dresses.

I'm looking forward to the little kid and his mum who sit infront of me, who always turns around and looks at me to work out the words to the songs we're singing and makes me feel really uncomfortable when i shout the word "cunt".

I'm looking forward to Joe Jordan walking down to our corner to put cones out and me and my mate clapping him and him turning around and going "thank you" and me and my mate going "Joe Jordan just said thanks to us :cool:"

I'm looking forward to making fun of this little fat kid with a head like a potato who sits near us, with my mate. I'm looking forward to the same shitty pre match music :cool:

aaaand hopefully 3 points :$

Doink

08-10-2005, 04:59 PM

I'm looking forward to the little kid and his mum who sit infront of me, who always turns around and looks at me to work out the words to the songs we're singing and makes me feel really uncomfortable when i shout the word "cunt".

ts :$

:lol: There's a kid like that where I sit, his parents always give me and my mates dodgy looks when we hurl abuse at the ref or players yet its ok when the husband does it 2 minutes later. whats that all about?

Im looking forward to seeing the steward that looks like joey boswell from the 90's TV programme bread. The poor guy gets hammered every game.

Im also looking forward to seeing which one of the lads that sits next to me breaks the seat infront of them first, Its guareented that one of them does it every year and it doesnt get fixed for a few months so the guy who's seat it actually is has to sit on a broken seat for months, yet never says anything about it. :lol:

Mr. Monday Morning

08-10-2005, 05:03 PM

I'm looking forward to us playing Hull with one of our rejects in their starting XI.

Rob Ban Fan

08-10-2005, 05:14 PM

:lol: There's a kid like that where I sit, his parents always give me and my mates dodgy looks when we hurl abuse at the ref or players yet its ok when the husband does it 2 minutes later. whats that all about?

When it first happened, i shouted something at a player calling him a cunt and his mum just turned around and looked at me and I was thinking "oh Jesus" and getting ready to appologise, but she just laughed at me :$

So now whenever we sing anything with a swearing in, her kid looks at us and joins in and she just looks horrified then laughs :$

I'm more worried about pissing off a steward but the steward who is normally near where we sit is cool with us and talks about the team before the game starts :cool:

Londoner

08-10-2005, 05:40 PM

Not saturday but on sunday i'm looking forward to newcastle beating arsenal... that was a bad joke i know.:(

Rob

08-10-2005, 06:25 PM

The only reason people say anything about Newcastle is because their fans and the media are always crying about how 'King Al' and his servents couldn't pull a championship out of their arses.

diothoir

08-10-2005, 06:54 PM

I'm looking forward to Leeds ending Luton's 100% record on Saturday.

:'(

Londoner

08-10-2005, 09:51 PM

I'm hoping Luton get promoted.My dad supports them, would be really strange seeing them in the premiership.

Chavo Classic

08-11-2005, 08:19 AM

Doink

08-11-2005, 09:06 AM

the words hell and no come to mind. the world cup has brazil written all over it!

Londoner

08-11-2005, 10:28 AM

Morientes has been recalled into the Spanish squad along with Alonso, Garcia and Reina. Good news for Liverpool as his can only do wonders for his confidence as he hasn't been in the squad for over a year and his brace on wednesday proved he's still got it.

also, although they are bigger underachievers than ourselves, Spain for the 2006 World Cup anyone?

People say that everytime, 'spain for the world cup 'spain for the euro championships' they may have good individual players, but as a team they're aload of shit.

Rob

08-11-2005, 11:20 AM

People say that everytime, 'spain for the world cup 'spain for the euro championships' they may have good individual players, but as a team they're aload of shit.

Indeed.

Chavo Classic

08-11-2005, 11:36 AM

Then again our squad isn't looking too bad. With the exception of Mr Crouch, the players who are potentially going over the Germany are about as good as any England team since Italia 90.

Lets hope for a semi at least

El Capitano Gatisto

08-11-2005, 01:44 PM

People say that everytime, 'spain for the world cup 'spain for the euro championships' they may have good individual players, but as a team they're aload of shit.

Apart from that friendly against England, when the Spanish lads passed rings around them.

Any team who can boast Xavi Hernandez and Xabi Alonso in central midfield has a chance. They can just go 1-0 up then keep the ball for the rest of the game.

Nah, no point even talking about Spain winning it, they'll only blow it again. Though to be fair, they were screwed against South Korea in 2002.

England have a great chance of winning it next year, or would do if they had a manager with some tactical and motivational know-how.

Londoner

08-11-2005, 02:10 PM

Apart from that friendly against England, when the Spanish lads passed rings around them.

Any team who can boast Xavi Hernandez and Xabi Alonso in central midfield has a chance. They can just go 1-0 up then keep the ball for the rest of the game.

Nah, no point even talking about Spain winning it, they'll only blow it again. Though to be fair, they were screwed against South Korea in 2002.

England have a great chance of winning it next year, or would do if they had a manager with some tactical and motivational know-how.

Was that friendly between england/spain the one with all the racist chants stuff?

They definately got screwed against korea though, but they've had plenty of other chances to win tournaments and they always blow it.

England always have a chance, it would help though if the manager wasn't only in it for the money.

Doink

08-11-2005, 02:51 PM

he's not, he's in it for the women !

Mr. Monday Morning

08-11-2005, 03:13 PM

Was that friendly between england/spain the one with all the racist chants stuff?

Yes

Rooney also tried to impale Casillas on the fencing

Chavo Classic

08-11-2005, 03:33 PM

:lol: Rooney is violent chav scum

Londoner

08-11-2005, 03:37 PM

he's not, he's in it for the women !

Well first he gets the money, then he gets the women.:shifty:

yianni

08-12-2005, 08:11 AM

Chaps, FC Hellas has been entered in the TPWW Fantasy League. :cool:

Londoner

08-12-2005, 08:38 AM

1 day till the start of the new season, im confident my fantasy team will walk away with the tpww league.

yianni

08-12-2005, 08:49 AM

I am the opposite. My team is bollocks and I think I'll finish last.

...do you get relegated if you finish last in the Fantasy League? :shifty: :lol:

Rob

08-12-2005, 12:10 PM

Yes

Rooney also tried to impale Casillas on the fencing

Aside from his goal against Newcastle, that was the best thing he did last season :y:

yianni

08-13-2005, 11:27 AM

:o @ Everton's defending for the 0-2.

West Ham-Blackburn has so far been a shithouse game to watch.

Cactus Sid

08-13-2005, 11:36 AM

Murphy and Defoe have both scored :cool:

toxic rooster

08-13-2005, 11:38 AM

:eek: @ Reo-Coker's goal

Mr. Monday Morning

08-13-2005, 11:48 AM

Dickov's off. That didn't take long.

toxic rooster

08-13-2005, 11:51 AM

Good to see Blackburn have cleaned up their act :roll:

:lol:, however, at Savage being shoved into the advertising boards in the first half and no yellow card resulting

Mr. Monday Morning

08-13-2005, 11:54 AM

:cool: Start saving those pennies Harvey :yes:

toxic rooster

08-13-2005, 11:59 AM

3-1 West Ham fulltime

Team Sheep

08-13-2005, 12:01 PM

Hammers off to a winning start then. 3-1.

toxic rooster

08-13-2005, 12:02 PM

I win

yianni

08-13-2005, 12:10 PM

Good to see Blackburn have cleaned up their act :roll:

:lol:, however, at Savage being shoved into the advertising boards in the first half and no yellow card resulting

ahahahaha word

Fuck off Dickov and you too Savage you pair of useless cunts. :lol:

toxic rooster

08-13-2005, 12:17 PM

and Emerton :'(

yianni

08-13-2005, 12:22 PM

Lord knows why that cunt is still considered in our national team

Can't cross for shit
Can't defend for shit

WHY THE FUCK IS HE THERE?!?!

Oh, probably cos we don't have anyone better. :o :lol: :lol:

Seriously though, should be interesting seeing how Ahmed Elrich goes for Fulham this year. I rate the lad, hopefully he can replace Emerton at right-mid in the national team.

yianni

08-13-2005, 12:24 PM

Also, lol @ abusing Elrich to his face whilst he was taking a corner in front of me about a year ago when he was playing for Parramatta against South Melbourne, and now seeing him playing in the Premiership. :o :cool:

Cactus Sid

08-13-2005, 02:19 PM

Fuck sake, we should've won that game, they were shit

We made so many simple little errors that if we'd not made, we would've buried them 5-0. We had so many good things about the performance, but no killer touch. We shoved Cisse out on the wing, when he should've been in the middle, and we took off Morientes when we need his presence.

Lord only knows why we are selling Baros, we better be getting Owen, because there is no excuse for selling him.

We need a right winger signed and sealed by next saturday, and we certainly need a centre back, because as great as Hyypia is in the air and at tackling, his lack of pace is gonna be a liability by the end of the season.

Benitez, Moores and Parry need to sort themselves out and conjur some money out of thin air ASAP.

Rob Ban Fan

08-13-2005, 05:57 PM

we were looking good, then on the stroke of half time Griffin scored an own goal :'(

and Mido ran off celebrating like he'd just won the world cup, which was odd :|

packt up

08-13-2005, 06:03 PM

Darren gayboy Ambrose got sent off.

I always thought he couldn't hurt a fly :$

packt up

08-13-2005, 06:19 PM

Oh yeah I'l make my season prediction now too. About a day too late I know :p.

1 Chelsea
2 Arsenal
3 Man U
4 Liverpool
5 Tottenham
6 Middlesboro
7 Bolton
8 Everton
9 Newcastle
10 Man C
11 Villa
12 Birmingham
13 Charlton
14 Blackburn
15 Fulham
16 West Brom
17 West Ham
18 Portsmouth
19 Sunderland
20 Wigan

Team Sheep

08-13-2005, 07:11 PM

We're going to catch the Gunners cold tomorrow, I can feel it! 0-1 to the Toon. :D

Y2Ant

08-13-2005, 07:51 PM

if it weren't for the fact that we face Arsenal tomorrow (and will lose most likely), I would take the piss out of Mackem and Owen for Sunderland and Portsmouth doing the job :'(

Y2Ant

08-13-2005, 07:52 PM

LOL @ Blackburn though, bunch of wankers

Mr. Monday Morning

08-14-2005, 05:35 AM

we were looking good, then on the stroke of half time Griffin scored an own goal :'(

That's what you get for signing Newcastle defensive rejects :$

Cactus Sid

08-14-2005, 06:27 AM

:( Wasn't thinking with the Dream Team stuff.

I dropped a load of the players on my subs bench, for players who would probably be better, and a couple in my first 11, and then they took 16 points off.....which will be deducted next week.....

I'm currently joint top.....next I'll be joint bottom :'(

Mr. Monday Morning

08-14-2005, 07:46 AM

lol yes I've made a few changes, -8 points :$ Having said that I've still got 4 players playing today, so shouldn't be too bad :D

toxic rooster

08-14-2005, 09:10 AM

Jenas got sent off

Y2Ant

08-14-2005, 09:21 AM

that was bullshit, never deserved a straight red for that shit

toxic rooster

08-14-2005, 09:28 AM

I have to agree, it looked worse than it was due to the way his legs ended up scissoring Gilberto, and the fact Gilberto stayed down

Mr. Monday Morning

08-14-2005, 10:47 AM

I'm so sick of people saying Wigan are the new/next Wimbledon. Bullshit. Wimbledon didn't have a fucking millionaire bankrolling them and their stadium. Wimbledon were a completely self-made success story.

packt up

08-14-2005, 12:34 PM

Ref was an absolute joke today. I'm not saying we were going to win at all or even that the result was going to be different but he made some shocking simple errors and the sending off of Jenas was a fucking joke.

Did Jenas get the ball - Yes. Did he take him from behind - No. Was it two footed - No. Could the Ref even see - No.

Absolutely baffling. Lets hope it gets over turned.

toxic rooster

08-14-2005, 12:59 PM

Fucking cruel at Wigan there

The Answer

08-14-2005, 12:59 PM

Wow, Wigan Athletic took Chelsea to the limit. If not for Hernan Crespo in the 90th.....

Mr. Monday Morning

08-14-2005, 01:00 PM

LOL fuck off Wigan. Hernan :cool:

I'll bet that twat who lobbed the ball over the bar when they were breaking 3 on 1 feels like shit now :lol:

toxic rooster

08-14-2005, 01:03 PM

Johansson I think...he missed another chance only a few minutes before too.

He'll have some nightmares

Rob Ban Fan

08-14-2005, 01:11 PM

haha unlucky Wigan.

Nice to see a certain fat, shit, old Dutchman had about £60,000,000 worth of talent in his pocket though.

Mr. Monday Morning

08-14-2005, 01:14 PM

Also nice to see a lethal Senegalese hitman have one shot on target all game.

packt up

08-14-2005, 01:16 PM

lol

Wengerland

08-14-2005, 01:43 PM

I felt bad for Wigan, then i remembered the shit crowds they were getting for the past two years, so they can fuck off. They're not a terrible side though.

Also, Paul Dickhead getting sent off :cool:

Bixente

08-14-2005, 01:54 PM

Arsenal totally dominated the possession, but rarely looked threatening - like the Chelsea game. Arsenal have problems when the opposition parks the bus in front of the goal, and I couldn't see a goal coming.

Aliaksandr Hleb was outstanding, and has already settled into the team - he could've scored too. Surely, he has to start against Chelski.

Wengerland

08-14-2005, 02:14 PM

Darren Bent has replaced Andrew Johnson in the England squad too, which isn't a bad choice.

Rob Ban Fan

08-14-2005, 02:24 PM

Bixente Lizarazu

Y2Ant

08-14-2005, 02:38 PM

god damn Arsenal :(

ROFL @ Wigan though, I love Hernan Crespo :love:

Londoner

08-14-2005, 06:07 PM

Whats up with all the hate for wigan in this thread? They were unlucky and played well, so what if they're supported well financially?I don't see why that should be held against them, they have a good manager i think.The only thing i hold against them is that most of the fans aren't real football fans, but that is nothing to do with the team, i hope they do well.

As for newcastle, i didn't see much of the game today(just some of the highlights) but from what ive heard the ref once again showed us that the refs do infact give decisions in favour of the big three in the premiership, it's so obvious these days it not even funny anymore. I'm glad it wasn't a 5-0 thrashing or anything though.

packt up

08-14-2005, 06:09 PM

Graeme Le Saux is a bummer and shut his arsehole ie his face.

Rob Ban Fan

08-14-2005, 06:15 PM

Londoner

08-14-2005, 06:18 PM

me and Kirky weren't hating on Wigan, we were just making light of some of the utter shite Dazz says :'(

I wanted them to lose though, cos they're our relegation rivals. I hope they stay up though, just for DA ZOOOOOOOOO :love:

Alright then. By the way, anyone know the current tpww league standings?I'm 13th in the overall fantasy football league, so i imagine i'm near the top of this one.I can't login at the moment though because it says 'there are too many members logged in' which is ridiculous.:roll:

Ogen

08-14-2005, 07:08 PM

If your who I think you are your joint top on 30 points.

Wengerland

08-14-2005, 07:10 PM

I've got nothing against Wigan as a team either, they did well and were unlucky in the end, but it's the fact that they gained so many "fans" just because they're in the premiership. They probably more than doubled their average attendance from last year, and i'd have thought watching your side rape teams on the way to promotion for lower prices wouldn't be so much worse than that.

But yeah, they're not as terrible a side as people make out, certainly won't go down as easily as most have said.

Newcastle looked pretty well organised for the mostpart, didn't offer much going forward mind.

Cactus Sid

08-15-2005, 05:29 AM

If your who I think you are your joint top on 30 points.

With me......until they update it :'(

Cactus Sid

08-15-2005, 05:31 AM

Actually, having seen my points for the week, I'll end up with 39 after the transfers go through....so I might be mid-table.

Y2Ant

08-15-2005, 08:36 AM

Jenas' red card gets downgraded to a yellow, bit late now :mad:

Mr. Monday Morning

08-15-2005, 08:39 AM

I logged onto the fantasy thing sometime late last night and the points had been updated from Sunday's games, huge difference in almost everyone's points total.

-edit- Just checked and league viewing is disabled til later in the week :| Top of the league was like 55 points or something though.

El Capitano Gatisto

08-15-2005, 08:53 AM

I think I racked up a few this week. Benayoun, Terry, Lampard, Henry and Crespo should get me a few points. Riise, no.

Cactus Sid

08-15-2005, 08:56 AM

-edit- Just checked and league viewing is disabled til later in the week :| Top of the league was like 55 points or something though.

That's me :cool:

Londoner

08-15-2005, 09:38 AM

If your who I think you are your joint top on 30 points.

That's weird, because in the proper league i have about 43 pts, though ive made 5 transfers now, and thats now cost me 16 pts, but they're for the long term. My team name is 'Chapman_FC'.

For those curious the transfers ive made are:

Toure in For King
Reo-coker in for Reid
Bent in for radzinski
Sheringham in for stead
O'shea in for heinze

Londoner

08-15-2005, 09:44 AM

Doink

08-15-2005, 11:02 AM

haha unlucky Wigan.

Nice to see a certain fat, shit, old Dutchman had about £60,000,000 in his pocket though.

Who ? Was it Zenden ?

Mr. Monday Morning

08-15-2005, 11:33 AM

Ah, here we go.

Fantasy football rankings Week 1

1 Team Carradonna 55
2 Leicester McCity 53
3 diocentri City 50
4 I hate Mackem FC 49
5 Inter Milan Mandaric 48
6 Ogentbh 46
7 Chapman_FC 43
7 Hells Satans 43
9 Bollock Burgers 42
9 Wolves 42
11 Hellraisers 41
12 FC Hellas 40
13 Fulham Road XI 38
14 SupermarketSweep 32

Ogen

08-15-2005, 11:36 AM

6th will do for now

Rob Ban Fan

08-15-2005, 11:51 AM

Inter Milan Mandaric 48
Fulham Road XI 38

HA

Doink

08-15-2005, 12:13 PM

Get in i'm in 4th place :shifty:

toxic rooster

08-15-2005, 12:53 PM

ROFL Ogentbh

yianni

08-15-2005, 01:04 PM

:lol: @ FC Hellas, great start you cunts, already near relegation zone :mad:

Ogen

08-15-2005, 01:19 PM

I presume they'll be changing Jenas's points since his red care was rescinded?

Y2Ant

08-15-2005, 01:39 PM

who is Supermarket Sweep, that is the best team name

Cactus Sid

08-15-2005, 01:46 PM

Who ? Was it Zenden ?

:D Not bitter.

Wengerland

08-15-2005, 02:00 PM

who is Supermarket Sweep, that is the best team name

That would be Trap.

2nd will do for me at the minute.

Rob Ban Fan

08-15-2005, 02:09 PM

who is Supermarket Sweep, that is the best team name

That is young Trap's team.

Good team name, but you're still bottom, aint ya, Trap?

HA!

-edit- fucks sake Wengerbus :mad:

Dazz

08-15-2005, 03:45 PM

I love Crespo, what a fucking goal, sure did brighten up the journey home afterwards. Gotta feel sorry for Wigan, their fan were pretty good for part of the second half, they starts singing "Whats it like to be outclassed' and 'Who needs Mourinho, we've got Paul Jewellio". Then they started singing "here to see Wigan" to us so we replied with "here for one season" to them .

In the pre-match entertainment they had these four people walk round the ground singing pop songs, and they sung Made in the USSR when they got in front of the Chelsea fans.

Hernan

MMM - Camara skinned Terry, how many people have you seen do that?

Owen - De Zeeuw was quality :$, I regret nothing though, he was shit for you lot.

Cactus Sid

08-15-2005, 06:11 PM

Not enough love for Pascal Chimbonda

Rob

08-15-2005, 06:33 PM

I'm just happy my forward line in The Sun Fantasy Football is Crespo, Henry and Bent :D (I left Crespo for Shearer on our one).

Londoner

08-15-2005, 06:44 PM

What was the boro V Liverpool score?I still don't even know all the scores because i was out on saturday afternoon/night and slept most of sunday.

Rob

08-15-2005, 06:51 PM

0-0. Ehgiou got a red card though.

Londoner

08-15-2005, 06:52 PM

Londoner

08-15-2005, 06:56 PM

0-0. Ehgiou got a red card though.

This new rule about tackling is fucking stupid.How can Campo's tackle not be a red card when he clearly didn't get the ball but Jenas got sent off when he clearly got the ball? I wish they would stop changing the rules, the amount of red cards in the first week is not surprising considering they changed it, especially when they only changed it about a week ago i heard.

Nervous Ferret

08-15-2005, 07:47 PM

WHAT!!>?!?@?@:? Why wasnt I invited to the league.

Londoner

08-15-2005, 07:51 PM

Everyone was invited.You can still join, the link to the site is somewhere in this thread, a few pages back i think.

Nervous Ferret

08-15-2005, 08:18 PM

OK me and TL were discussing this in a topic that was pretty offtopic, so I'm bringing it here. Here was the last reply

Nah it would totally destroy the structure of the game in this country and people would lose interest in football if every team was in one league, there is already too many games anyway so that would be impossible considering the demands of the fitness levels on the players. Would you change something that has worked for over a 100 years?

But yes there are only 4 teams that can realistically win the league, but that's the way its always been. And it makes the teams more competitive when it comes to the European cups.When people say there were times when anyone could win the league, they're talking rubbish. I hope someone who thinks that can tell me exactly when that time was because i sure as hell can't think of when it was.

Btw i just noticed how totally off-topic we are. Maybe we should continue this in pm or the sports forum?

I guess you are right but I don't see how it is working. There are tons of teams, yet only 4 can win.

Well what I don't get, is if only 4 teams have a chance, then what hapens to the other 34982947 teams? No doubt nobodys going to want to see a team who has no chance of "winning it all". Wouldn't they lose fan support, lose money, and if you're losing money what is the point of even having the team? It makes no sense.

Londoner

08-15-2005, 08:31 PM

OK me and TL were discussing this in a topic that was pretty offtopic, so I'm bringing it here. Here was the last reply

I guess you are right but I don't see how it is working. There are tons of teams, yet only 4 can win.

Well what I don't get, is if only 4 teams have a chance, then what hapens to the other 34982947 teams? No doubt nobodys going to want to see a team who has no chance of "winning it all". Wouldn't they lose fan support, lose money, and if you're losing money what is the point of even having the team? It makes no sense.

Well what i didn't mention before was that, the top four teams get a place in the Champions League, the 4th spot is usually the one that mid/lower-table teams are after, everton finished 17th(one place above the relegation zone)the season before last and finished 4th last season, so if they qualify into the CL they will get about £30m or something i think, depending on how far they get that will determine how much of that money they will get.

Just incase i didn't make that bit clear btw the 3rd and 4th place teams have to play one match to qualify for the CL.

Then the 5th and 6th place teams qualify for the UEFA cup which is another european cup, only lower in status/money but it's good enough for the mid/lower table teams.

Obviously teams will lose money, but they do get a certain amount, but if you don't finish high enough you don't deserve the same amount of money as the champions do you?As for support, usually if teams go down they lose SOME support naturally, but most premiership teams sell out week in/week out.There are some well supported teams in the lower leagues, even non league football gets appreciation.I support Hendon who play in the Ryman Premier league for example. I also support newcastle in the premiership even though we havent won anything for about 50 years, and i still would even if we got relegated.

Rob

08-15-2005, 08:35 PM

With all due respect to NF, do you think you are seriously going to convince any American sports fan our league system is better (even though it totally is)?

Londoner

08-15-2005, 08:36 PM

Also, its about building your squad up, the depressing thing at the moment is that Chelsea have a Russian billionaire who brought thme a couple of seasons ago, and they can spend as much money as they want and surprise surprise they won the prmeiership last year aswell as the league cup, it wont last though because everything falls eventually.

There are also other competitions for lower league clubs which i didn't mention, and they can get money from fa cup/league runs to, there's always a few shocks in the cups when lower league teams somehow beat the premiership teams, but i ain't hiding from the fact that there are deginately some teams struggling for survival, some have even collapsed.Most are insecure though.Ther eisn't really anything you can do about it, it's mainly due to ITV fucking up football finances in this country.They stupidly splashed out loads of money on the leagues below the prmeiership and though everyone would buy there new digital thing like sky have to see it, the clubs spent the money before they even ahd it and that's mainly why they're insecure financially.

Nervous Ferret

08-15-2005, 08:36 PM

right right right

I just can't imagine gonig into a season knowing no matter how good you play their is nothing you can do to "win it all"

Londoner

08-15-2005, 08:38 PM

With all due respect to NF, do you think you are seriously going to convince any American sports fan our league system is better (even though it totally is)?

I'm not trying to say it's better, i'm just explaining how it works.

Nervous Ferret

08-15-2005, 08:38 PM

With all due respect to NF, do you think you are seriously going to convince any American sports fan our league system is better (even though it totally is)?No of course not, nothing you say can make me think soccer is better than football, nothing I say can make you think football is better than soccer ect.

I was just confused to how it all worked and it kinda went on from there

Londoner

08-15-2005, 08:38 PM

Nervous Ferret

08-15-2005, 08:39 PM

Alright, thats enough schooling for me for now, thanks :y:

Londoner

08-15-2005, 08:42 PM

right right right

I just can't imagine gonig into a season knowing no matter how good you play their is nothing you can do to "win it all"

Well, that's just the way it is, you set realistic targets for yourself.Infact, increasing the number of teams into one league would be even worse because then the rich teams would cope better with there larger squads.Also, how would you fit that many game sinto a year?It's simply not possible.I think the difference is you guys support states while we support clubs, thats a big difference.

Londoner

08-15-2005, 08:44 PM

Alright, thats enough schooling for me for now, thanks :y:

Had to throw in one more reply there.:y:

Nervous Ferret

08-15-2005, 08:49 PM

Nervous Ferret

08-15-2005, 08:49 PM

Alright now I'm done :mad: :)

Londoner

08-15-2005, 09:03 PM

ehh thats not completely true, when the Colts moved from Baltimore to Indianapolis, Oilers (now Titans) moved from Houston to Tennesse (Nashville) ect. a lot of fans followed. But for the most part you hardly hardly hardly ever see anybody on the East Coast who are Minnesota Vikings fans.

But if the Jets moved to like Oregon or something I would prolly still "support" them. Hard to say.

But you bring up a good point

What i meant about the clubs/states thing was that there are less states than clubs, a club can be set up really easily in the tiniest place possible, yet a state is one big place.Therefore that allows us to have more clubs.But yeah the thing you brought up is also true.

Mr. Monday Morning

08-16-2005, 06:27 AM

There are still some states without NFL teams. The owners just generally go where they think they can get the highest revenues, hence more teams on the coasts (2 for NY, 3 in Florida, 3 in California)

But yeah, America = 250m population, 32 teams

England (and Wales I guess) = 60m population, 92 professional teams. And then there's the conference, and the conference feeder clubs, and then the ones below them...etc.

Mr. Monday Morning

08-16-2005, 06:29 AM

MMM - Camara skinned Terry, how many people have you seen do that?

I'm sure that will do wonders for their goal difference. Maybe they should add a new stat as to how many times someone gets skinned and use it as a tiebreaker if goal difference is level. Or how about instead of penalty shootouts we have skinning competitions to determine finals.

You nob.

Y2Ant

08-16-2005, 11:02 AM

*skins you*

Rob Ban Fan

08-16-2005, 11:03 AM

NF, I support one of those teams that has no chance of winning the league so maybe I can help a bit.

Two seasons ago we got promoted to the Premiership from Division 1 and in our first season our main target was to just stay up for another season. By staying up, for us it was nearly as good as winning the league was for Arsenal that season.

Its all about expectations. Arsenal, Man U and Chelsea have lots of money so their fans expect them to win the league. My team was new to the league so we expected to stay up, we achieved that and we were very happy with our season, even though we finished no where near the top and lost a lot of games.

The 20 clubs in the Premiership are given a lot of money from Sky TV for their TV rights. This revenue is A LOT more than the leagues below the Premiership get, so just by being in the premiership, even if you finish 17th every season (the lowest you can finish without being relegated) you make a lot of money.

After staying up a few times, this money can be revinvested and the squad can be improved slowly and you can start to aim slightly higher. Instead of just staying up, maybe push for a UEFA cup spot, then a Champions League spot etc.

Almost every town and city in the country has atleast one team and the shit ones (like my team :D) tend to rely more on the support of local people and fans from the city and surrounding area. Where as the big, successful teams like Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal that have a chance of winning the league often have supporters that have never been to a game and live hundreds of miles away (not all of them, they do have a lot of local supporters too) and they get labled "glory supporters" who only support the team because they're big and successful.

So yes, the more succesful you are, the more fans you have but even the shittiest, smallest clubs have a few supporters just because they live locally.

Rob Ban Fan

08-16-2005, 11:05 AM

I'm sure that will do wonders for their goal difference. Maybe they should add a new stat as to how many times someone gets skinned and use it as a tiebreaker if goal difference is level. Or how about instead of penalty shootouts we have skinning competitions to determine finals.

You nob.

Kirky :love:

toxic rooster

08-16-2005, 11:08 AM

Arsenal that have a chance of winning the league often have supporters that have never been to a game and live hundreds of miles away (not all of them, they do have a lot of local supporters too) and they get labled "glory supporters" who only support the team because they're big and successful.

:$

Ogen

08-16-2005, 12:22 PM

Bumped into Damien Duff earlier on his way into the bookies with a big fuck off wad of money. Paddy Kenny was there to but I didn't talk to him. Had a load of money with him Duff did.

toxic rooster

08-16-2005, 12:26 PM

Did you push him over and steal his money?

Rob Ban Fan

08-16-2005, 01:02 PM

:$

well i more meant people from this country.

It makes sense for foreigners to support the bigger teams because i'd guess they get more TV coverage in Australia and the like. There would be no point in you supporting Fulham if you never ever got to see them play cos Man U and Arsenal were on TV all the time.

El Capitano Gatisto

08-16-2005, 01:15 PM

Or how about instead of penalty shootouts we have skinning competitions to determine finals.

That would be pretty good.

Rob Ban Fan

08-16-2005, 01:18 PM

The Yak skinned John Terry at the Bridge last season and then dragged his shot wide.

Needless to say we lost 3-0. de Zeeuw had a virus and so was on the bench, had he been fit it may well have been a different story.

El Capitano Gatisto

08-16-2005, 01:21 PM

John Terry gets skinned by fast players all the time. He's just lucky he has a fast black athlete in William Gallas to sort him out, and a beast of a goalkeeper in Petr Cech.

Y2Ant

08-16-2005, 01:23 PM

Pricey, reading your long orange post makes me hungry for some tomato soup :(

Mr. Monday Morning

08-16-2005, 01:26 PM

That would be pretty good.

I can see it now, World Cup Quarter Final, England vs Senegal (much like Italia 90 really), goes to a skinning competition. Camara tears John Terry a new one. Beckham, as captain and Eriksson's occasional butt-boy, insists on going first.

:'(

El Capitano Gatisto

08-16-2005, 01:28 PM

We'd have Duff, Robbie Keane and McGeady. I'd fancy us in a skinning contest before a shoot-out.

Y2Ant

08-16-2005, 01:30 PM

SWP would win it for us :cool:

Rob Ban Fan

08-16-2005, 01:45 PM

Ashley Cole and probably Joe Cole too and Micky Owen and Jermain Defoe :cool:

Nervous Ferret

08-16-2005, 05:20 PM

alright word, that RBF "bit" helped a lot. I get it now suckerr. Who is Arsenal's main "nemesis" so I can root against Wee Gooner?

Y2Ant

08-16-2005, 05:43 PM

Bolton Wanderers

Nervous Ferret

08-16-2005, 06:20 PM

alright word

Rob Ban Fan

08-16-2005, 07:21 PM

No, Bolton are shit with dickhead fans and a dickhead manager who nearly ran me over and dickhead players who only ECG likes because he loves dickheads.

Spurs are Arsenal's rivals. Spurs fans are dickheads too though.

Ogen

08-16-2005, 07:24 PM

Nah I wanna see Ferret annoy Gooner, Arsenals main rivals are Chelsea and Man United for the title but Spurs too for a local rivals

toxic rooster

08-16-2005, 10:18 PM

Yeah take your pick of chelsea, manyoo and spurs

Cactus Sid

08-17-2005, 04:59 AM

Spurs fans are dickheads too though.

This is so so true.

Doink

08-17-2005, 05:38 AM

fuck off, chelsea's main rivals are wigan, the game on sunday proves it!

El Capitano Gatisto

08-17-2005, 10:29 AM

No, Bolton are shit with dickhead fans and a dickhead manager who nearly ran me over and dickhead players who only ECG likes because he loves dickheads.

Spurs are Arsenal's rivals. Spurs fans are dickheads too though.

I might start supporting Bolton. They signed Nakata :love:

Rob Ban Fan

08-17-2005, 11:03 AM

only on loan though. If you enjoy chinks, you should support Man City, they have Sun Jihai.

Londoner

08-17-2005, 11:19 AM

Spurs are Arsenal's rivals. Spurs fans are dickheads too though.

My mate is a spurs fan but he's alright, though his brother is abit of a dickhead. It's funny hearing them go on about how they will qualify for europe though, my friend thought they would finish in the champions league spot last year.:lol: :rofl:

Doink

08-17-2005, 12:23 PM

Most fans do big up ther own teams though, its a bias opinion as they think 'o we've signed (insert player here) and he'll get us 20 goals this season, so we'll defo get into europe this year' while forgetting that they have a crap defence and no strength indepth should they get injuries.

On a seperate note, transfer news is:

Newcastle are set to put in a late bid for Fredi Kanoute who is in talks with Saville.
Carvahalio is unhappy he didnt play on sunday
Boro are in talks with Abdel Xavier
West Ham have signed David Bellion on loan.

Londoner

08-17-2005, 12:29 PM

Kanoute has already signed for Sevilla on a four-year deal.
Players are always unhappy when they don't play, that isn't news.
Xavier is shit.
And so is Bellion, he isn't even fit enough yet.

Londoner

08-17-2005, 12:30 PM

Oh btw, i heard some guy turned Boro down but i can't remember his name, it was on ssnews yesterday.

Londoner

08-17-2005, 12:33 PM

Most fans do big up ther own teams though, its a bias opinion as they think 'o we've signed (insert player here) and he'll get us 20 goals this season, so we'll defo get into europe this year' while forgetting that they have a crap defence and no strength indepth should they get injuries.

That sounds so much like my friend who supports spurs, I used to be like that, but then i woke up to reality.The depth of the squad is definately key, that's why teams go on good&bad runs and the top teams stay consistant through out the season. Everton got lucky last season with injuries, so that proves that most of the teams are good enough if they stay fit. I bet spurs finish 8th this season.

Dazz

08-17-2005, 12:40 PM

John Terry gets skinned by fast players all the time. He's just lucky he has a fast black athlete in William Gallas to sort him out, and a beast of a goalkeeper in Petr Cech.

Wouldn't say all the time, but he does sometimes. Thats why I prefer Gallas to your boyfriend, and it's good to see he has started to drop him in favour of Gallas, as he was shit from Feb - May and doesn't deserve a place at the moment.

El Capitano Gatisto

08-17-2005, 01:43 PM

only on loan though. If you enjoy chinks, you should support Man City, they have Sun Jihai.

Just a couple of points:

I enjoy watching great players, Nakata is a great player.

I do also enjoy pornography featuring small Chinese women of indeterminable age.

packt up

08-17-2005, 01:57 PM

Nakata was the shit back in the day - hopefully he'll recreate that at Bolton even though I don't like Bolton at all.

And lol at Carvalho going off on one.

Rob Ban Fan

08-17-2005, 03:24 PM

http://www.bluechillisecure.co.uk/collectormania/images/cg2004_jhihai.gif

Rob Ban Fan

08-17-2005, 03:30 PM

ffs David James

Mr. Monday Morning

08-17-2005, 03:34 PM

He just finds new ways to plumb the depths doesn't he?

Still, never mind. Kenny Miller scored :love:

Rob

08-17-2005, 04:56 PM

And he played probably his best game for us either. Nigel Quashie was his usually awesome self too.

It was totally worth us losing two goals in the last 7mins just so Rab Douglas NEVER plays another game for us again.

Wengerland

08-17-2005, 05:08 PM

hahaha good old Rab, and the keeper we signed as competition conceded 6 against Pompey's reserves.

Pretty abysmal from England, complete lack of passion from all but Ashley Cole and Wayne Rooney, and Joe Cole at a push.

Doink

08-17-2005, 05:23 PM

Oh btw, i heard some guy turned Boro down but i can't remember his name, it was on ssnews yesterday.

Douala from Sporting Lisbon, he put it down to not being able to play european football coz he's cup tied, roughly translated to we didnt offer enough money!

Pogatetz has finally been cleared to play for us I think, news is his 24 week ban was reduced to an 8 game ban & as the team he was playing for has played a few games and he was unavailable for the liverpool game for us, he can now play. However this is yet to be confirmed by russian fa or boro.

Is this the biggest farce ever over a ban and appeal against a ban ? It makes the Jenas decision look reasonable!

I only caught some of the England game, Im so glad I didnt see it all, we looked Shite !!!