NFL 2005 Season Thread

[punt]

Wow, Skip, I did not realize just how good the Jags have been in the 2nd half, especially the 4th Q.

[Skippord]

If they do I should get one billion dollars

[D Mac]

If they do I should get one billion dollars

Dr. Evil comes to mind. :D

[Skippord]

"I had to pop a cop cause he wasnt giving me my props in Oak town"

"No,I heard it somewhere"

[D Mac]

14-3 Pats now.

[Skippord]

come on score those points in the fourth quarter

[punt]

LOVE that Coors Light ad - Steel Curtain rules!

[Skippord]

21-3 with the extra point

[D Mac]

Pats breaking away. 21-3

[CNM]

Yeah this game is over. No way the Jags score another 20 pts.

[D Mac]

VEL will never let us hear the end of this. :(

[Skippord]

The jags are gonna score 47 points in the fourth quarter to win the game

[Skippord]

If they werent ya know sucking

[Gonzo]

Its the fucking Patriots at home in the playoffs, c'mon lol.

[punt]

Yeah this game is over. No way the Jags score another 20 pts.

You were obviously misinformed - they will score 47 in the 4th.

[Skippord]

Its the fucking Patriots at home in the playoffs, c'mon lol.

When they come here though oh boy thats gonna be a game

[Skippord]

nail in the coffin

[D Mac]

Man It's definately over.

[punt]

Wow, what a 3rd Q - freakin Pats. I was hoping SOMEONE would stop them. I really don't want my Steelers to face them again on the playoffs (considering they can beat the Bungles).

[D Mac]

Question is, Is Byron Leftwich capable of taking a team to the Super Bowl?

Guess my question is answered.

[punt]

Maybe if he were to drive the Pats team bus

[D Mac]

:lol:

[CNM]

To beat the Pats you have to run the ball effectively and play pretty good D. The Jags didn't even come close. They came out trying to pass with a gimpy Leftwich under constant pressure.

[OssMan]

life sucks because the skins won but ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL at Taylor

[Skippord]

To beat the Pats you have to run the ball effectively and play pretty good D. The Jags didn't even come close. They came out trying to pass with a gimpy Leftwich under constant pressure.

We do both :D

[D Mac]

life sucks because the skins won but ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL at Taylor

He's claiming he didn't spit at Pittman.

[D Mac]

Al Micheals just said if Cincy wins they would go to Denver and Pats would play Indy.

[el fregadero]

To beat the Pats you have to run the ball effectively and play pretty good D. The Jags didn't even come close. They came out trying to pass with a gimpy Leftwich under constant pressure.
They did play good defense up until that Watson play where everybody on the team let him get away.

[OssMan]

Hey Rain Man who are you gonna root for now?

[UmbrellaCorporation]

I hope so badly that the Colts have to play the Patriots. It'll be interesting to see if Manning chokes against them.

[Skippord]

NO, I DONT WANNA PLAY THE STEELERS

[CNM]

The Broncos can't play the Steelers unless it's in the AFC Championship game

[Skippord]

oh alright,seriously though dont wannna play them

[el fregadero]

lol 4 1/2 sacks for Willie :(

[D Mac]

oh alright,seriously though dont wannna play them

You'd rather play the Pats?

[Skippord]

Yes,Because Pittsburgh is both on a roll and a road team

[OssMan]

The Redskins should draft Marcus Vick. It would be the best draft pick of all time.

[D Mac]

The Redskins should draft Marcus Vick. It would be the best draft pick of all time.

Whomever has the highest draft pick and is in desperate need of a QB will probably draft him.

[The Miz]

Good insight

[D Mac]

:cool:

[RoXer]

Maybe the Cards will take him. Dunno if thats good or bad.

[D Mac]

Maybe the Cards will take him. Dunno if thats good or bad.

Have you no faith in Kurt Warner?

[RoXer]

Well, he can't stay young forever.

[VonErich Lives]

Good luck, VEL and Stima.

You're gonna need it !

Apperently not. :D

VEL will never let us hear the end of this. :(


Nah, just 1 game and it was home, have more to go and on the road vs. better teams.

Saw some things I liked... Faulk looked great and helped setup Dillon. Was nice to see Watson really used and the Pass rush is back.

The DB's are still shakey and if that pass rush can't get their, they can be picked on.

The defense running will w/o Bruschi was nice, I swear it's like someone else is in Biesel jersey, heck even Chad Brown looked good.

I really don't care Denver or Indy, the goal is to win it all and you have to play and beat the good teams.

I guess the only reason I would prefer Denver is because if Pitt beats Indy and the Pats beat Denver, then the Pats host the AFC championship.

Most consecutive games won is a nice thing and adds another notch to Brady and Belicheck but the goal is the trophy, not the record books.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Wow the Redskins are the most annoying team in the NFL. Everyone on their team is a huge ass hole except for like Jon Jansen. I am gonna punch LaVar Arrington in the face because he lives like 20 minutes away from me.

Please have someone there to take a photo when you do that.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

TB got fucked on that no touchdown call. He clearly had control of it when both knees were down.

Catches in the end zone are different than in the normal field, you have to maintain control all the way through the motion of catching, not just when a body part hits. The call was right (even though it's kinda screwy how there are different rules for the end zone in the first place, but everyone knew that beforehand)

[AlphaBean]

Apperently not. :D




Nah, just 1 game and it was home, have more to go and on the road vs. better teams.

Saw some things I liked... Faulk looked great and helped setup Dillon. Was nice to see Watson really used and the Pass rush is back.

The DB's are still shakey and if that pass rush can't get their, they can be picked on.

The defense running will w/o Bruschi was nice, I swear it's like someone else is in Biesel jersey, heck even Chad Brown looked good.

I really don't care Denver or Indy, the goal is to win it all and you have to play and beat the good teams.

I guess the only reason I would prefer Denver is because if Pitt beats Indy and the Pats beat Denver, then the Pats host the AFC championship.

Most consecutive games won is a nice thing and adds another notch to Brady and Belicheck but the goal is the trophy, not the record books.

Put Brady and NE Defense on my work fantasy playoffs. :love:

Put Branch, too. :mad:

But I put Scobee on, knowing that he would tear that shit up -- not realizing something: he'd only get field goals, no PATs. And not many FGs, at that. :(

And in my idiocy, I picked up Fred Taylor? :wtf:? Well, I think it's obvious that to beat the Pats you gotta run the ball -- and when the Jags abandoned the run, that ruined my plans. I was pretty sure that Fred would get some stats if Del Rio knew his arse from a hole in the ground, tbh.

[Skippord]

Please have someone there to take a photo when you do that.

That or the beatdown afterwords

[VonErich Lives]

I like the Skins, Gibbs played smart, some of Grudens play calling near the end didn't seem to make sense.

I liked Arrington after the game, was like a kid in a free candy shop, you could tell how genuinely happy he was, he didn't have the "right words" or the "speach" like players on the Colts and Patriots do, it was just fun to see.

[AlphaBean]

If you like lovable guys not having the right words to express themselves... then you must be the biggest Wiggins fan ever. :love: He's so incredibly dumb, he walks like a penguin and runs like he's 80 years old, but he somehow gets it done. What a guy.

[Team Sheep]

Wow, awesome games last night. Thoroughly enjoyed the Buccs/Skins game, went right to the wire. And those Pats, I'm starting to re consider my Colts pick to make the Superbowl. I love football. :love:

[VonErich Lives]

If you like lovable guys not having the right words to express themselves... then you must be the biggest Wiggins fan ever. :love: He's so incredibly dumb, he walks like a penguin and runs like he's 80 years old, but he somehow gets it done. What a guy.

Yeah, besides being on the Pats superbowl team and having a monster game against Oakland including key plays that kept the final drive alive he's also a local boy (East Boston).

[UmbrellaCorporation]

I'd freaking love to see Patriots/Seahawks at the Super Bowl.


I'll say it again. I seriously, SERIOUSLY hope the Patriots have to play the Colts again and kill them.

[Skippord]

I seriously do to and then get Slaughtered by the broncos the week after :shifty:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

That or the beatdown afterwords

That was kind of the point I was aiming for, yes.

[Loose Cannon]

I'm a Giants fan today.

[OssMan]

well this is what happens when you have no linebackers.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Somebody please explain why you can only challenge some plays and not those ruled down by contact. What's the point of having challenges if you can't use it on like 50% of plays.

[Corndad]

Just remember I called Carolina a Super Bowl sleeper team... proving me right so far, now if my Steelers can get the job done against the Bungals today, I'll be off and running...

[Innovator]

This is the worst game I've seen the Giants play all year, no one wants to step up

[Loose Cannon]

wtf is this shit.

[Savio]

:lol: @ giants

[Gonzo]

Piss poor defense, just like AssMan said, this is what happens when you have no LB's. Then on top of that you have Eli playing like total shit. Next year I guess.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I guess being clutch runs in the Manning blood.

OH WAIT

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

That's 6 INTs combined for the Manning brothers in the last 2 playoff games they have played in

[Team Sheep]

Strange game. :-\

[Gonzo]

In all fairness, its Eli's second year. I forget that a lot too. It definitely doesn't excuse anything, because all those INT's were bullshit retarded mistakes.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

On the bright side, I am about to make £50 off this game.

That's roughly $88.45 to you New Yorkers.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Also yes, pretty much all QBs have rough games they go through, it's just a learning process you have to take if you're gonna play a young guy.

[D Mac]

This was not Giants football today from what I've seen.

[D Mac]

Carolina-Chicago next week should be a good game.

[VonErich Lives]

Somebody please explain why you can only challenge some plays and not those ruled down by contact. What's the point of having challenges if you can't use it on like 50% of plays.

I didn't see the play, but typically it's because once a player is thought to be down the a ref blows their whistle. Once the whistle blows the play is DEAD no matter what.

If nothing at all happens and a ref has a brain fart and blows a whistle the play is dead right then.

So, when the player is ruled down, the whistle blows the defense doesn't touch them, because if they do it's a penalty, the type that typically comes with ejections, fines and suspensions.

So, that's the reason typically, but I didn't see the play myself.

[punt]

GO STEELERS!!!!!

[RoXer]

GO AWAY

[D Mac]

Bettis needs to have an awesome game to have a chance, I think.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I didn't see the play, but typically it's because once a player is thought to be down the a ref blows their whistle. Once the whistle blows the play is DEAD no matter what.

If nothing at all happens and a ref has a brain fart and blows a whistle the play is dead right then.

So, when the player is ruled down, the whistle blows the defense doesn't touch them, because if they do it's a penalty, the type that typically comes with ejections, fines and suspensions.

So, that's the reason typically, but I didn't see the play myself.

It actually happened twice, Shockey got stripped of the ball, they ruled him down by contact. Later on Goings fumbled, they ruled him down by contact. What I don't understand is you can challenge a ref's decision on say whether or not a player catches the ball, but you can't challenge whether something happened before the player was down. Where's the sense in that?

[Gonzo]

It actually happened twice, Shockey got stripped of the ball, they ruled him down by contact. Later on Goings fumbled, they ruled him down by contact. What I don't understand is you can challenge a ref's decision on say whether or not a player catches the ball, but you can't challenge whether something happened before the player was down. Where's the sense in that?

What the referees are supposed to do, and either Aikman or Joe Buck made note of this, is let the play continue because once the player is whistled down by contact the play is over, no challenges allowed.

The refs in this game were terrible, there was no consistency at all. I'm not saying this in excuse for the loss, because we just played like shit, but the refs blew calls and that shit burns my britches more than anything.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I dunno maybe it's just me. I did hear that though, think it was Aikman - I can understand if the refs blew the calls. And you're right they did seem to miss a few things. Pretty funny when the crowd was getting all pissy over Goings' one not being called when Shockey got away with one like 5 minutes earlier :$

[Innovator]

there goes Palmer's ACL

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Man oh man that did not look good for Palmer.

[RP]

Thats really tough to see. Bengals are lucky as hell they have Kitna. Kitna isnt bad at all.

[OssMan]

just turned it on, what happened to palmer

[RP]

O linemen was blocked into his knee as he threw a 60 yard pass.

[D Mac]

Thats really tough to see. Bengals are lucky as hell they have Kitna. Kitna isnt bad at all.

*cough* Chiefs tore him up *cough*

[Mr. Monday Morning]

It was wotsisname who I can't spell for Pittsburgh, Kimo von xxxxx. He was blocked into him but it still looked like he was reaching to grab him.

[D Mac]

I'm in love with Bonnie Bernstein. :drool:

[The Miz]

lol @ Steelers and Bengals fighting after every play. I love black people

[D Mac]

Man I'd hate to fuck up and have to be stared down at by Bill Cower and that chin.

[CNM]

Nice tackling Steelers

[Gonzo]

I dunno maybe it's just me. I did hear that though, think it was Aikman - I can understand if the refs blew the calls. And you're right they did seem to miss a few things. Pretty funny when the crowd was getting all pissy over Goings' one not being called when Shockey got away with one like 5 minutes earlier :$

Being a Giants fan, I wouldn't have complained to have gotten a call swung our way on Goings' fumble. The thing that pisses me off is the inaccuracy and inconsistency of the referees. Two wrong calls don't make a right one, which makes me wonder if they saw the Goings fumble and blew it dead or didn't rule a fumble because they fucked up the Shockey call. The referees didn't change the outcome of this game though, thats when it really is disheartening.

lol @ Steelers and Bengals fighting after every play. I love black people

Yeah second offensive play for the Steelers on a false start and the DE and LT almost started brawling LOL. They showed before the game how Porter and Chad Johnson almost got into too.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I fucking hate the Steelers. Luckly this isn't being played in Pitt so we don't have to see the "terrible towels"...gayest thing I've ever heard.

[Gonzo]

Kitna looking pretty good while stepping in for Palmer.

[D Mac]

I think the players should'nt be allowed to have thier hair that long. You know, covering up their name and shit. :mad:

[The Miz]

Jonathan Kitnasty

[RP]

Steelers are playing some serious D right now.

[RP]

WHAT THE FUCK is Jeff Reed's nationality?

[punt]

Steelers have their O looking better - the D is beginning to apply pressure - hope they keep it up going into the 2nd half. Oh, and yes I have my TERRIBLE TOWEL out and waving.

GO STEELERS!!!!

[punt]

WHAT THE FUCK is Jeff Reed's nationality?

His hair looks like the Heat Miser

[punt]

Big surprise - Vince Young is entering the draft

[UmbrellaCorporation]

GO STEELERS!!!!

Only reason I'd want to see the Bengals win is for...


yeah, you guessed it.


*insert Manning choking here*

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Damn, I have to say it. Kitna's doing a far better job than I would have guessed.

[punt]

Maybe Kimo von Oelhoffen and his fat ass can roll on Kitna

[CNM]

Torn ACL for Carson Palmer

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Oh man. They said they hoped he'd be able to go to the training camps in July. Doesn't sound like a good prognosis at all. :(

I know that has to be terrible for him. It's his first time in the playoffs, and gets injured on the second play.

[CNM]

Wow, what a play. The momentum shift started with the Bengals kicker botching that snap. Now the Steelers are dominating.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Even though Oelhoffen is the man.

[VonErich Lives]

It actually happened twice, Shockey got stripped of the ball, they ruled him down by contact. Later on Goings fumbled, they ruled him down by contact. What I don't understand is you can challenge a ref's decision on say whether or not a player catches the ball, but you can't challenge whether something happened before the player was down. Where's the sense in that?

again, I didn't see the play but I would assume they had blown the whistle, once they blow the whistle the play is dead. Otherwise you'd have players just tackling people whenever they wanted the play would never actually end.

[VonErich Lives]

Oh man. They said they hoped he'd be able to go to the training camps in July. Doesn't sound like a good prognosis at all. :(

I know that has to be terrible for him. It's his first time in the playoffs, and gets injured on the second play.

Yeah, unless it's somehow a really "minor" tare which I don't think their is such a thing, you wont see him next year.

He'll be shooting for training camp in July of 2007, not 2006.

[The Outlaw]

I think the refs actually got together and made the decision? No whistle was really blown?

[VonErich Lives]

I fucking hate the Steelers. Luckly this isn't being played in Pitt so we don't have to see the "terrible towels"...gayest thing I've ever heard.

Homer Hankey :rofl:

I think the players should'nt be allowed to have thier hair that long. You know, covering up their name and shit. :mad:

Not sure if you're joking or not, but didn't the NFL say a few weeks ago they would enforce it as a uniform violation if the hair covered the name?

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Yeah, unless it's somehow a really "minor" tare which I don't think their is such a thing, you wont see him next year.

He'll be shooting for training camp in July of 2007, not 2006.

Holy crap, that didn't occur to me at the time. :eek:

Amazing how something of that magnitude can happen in the course of like, five seconds. Then again, that's football. :p


And WOW to the Steelers comeback. This flip flopped, that's for sure.

[The Icon of Elisim]

Just stepped out of the room for a second, who was the being carted off and what happened?

[CNM]

Yeah, unless it's somehow a really "minor" tare which I don't think their is such a thing, you wont see him next year.

He'll be shooting for training camp in July of 2007, not 2006.

No, next year's training camp. Torn ACL's dont take THAT long to recover from.

[CNM]

Next year meaning this year (2006)

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Just stepped out of the room for a second, who was the being carted off and what happened?

Carson Palmer tore his ACL muscle, and he's looking at some pretty hefty time off at the moment because of it. :(

It was due to a shot to the knee by Oelhoffen, by the way.

[The Icon of Elisim]

Oh, didn't realize it was a replay

[The Icon of Elisim]

lol at Randle El

[UmbrellaCorporation]

31 - 17, Steelers!

[D Mac]

Not sure if you're joking or not, but didn't the NFL say a few weeks ago they would enforce it as a uniform violation if the hair covered the name?

Wasn't joking. And I guess they're not enforcing it yet because i've seen 2 players today like that.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Holy crap, they just said torn MCL -and- ACL.

[CNM]

Patriots @ Broncos on Saturday night. Should be a hot game.

[Corndad]

Same old Bungals... Now if we actually decide to run the ball in Indy this time... We might have a shot at this...

[D Mac]

Supreme must be furious.

[Corndad]

I fucking hate the Steelers. Luckly this isn't being played in Pitt so we don't have to see the "terrible towels"...gayest thing I've ever heard.

actually they are second after your whiny bitch qb... Respect me.. Respect me!

All i gotta say is Go Denver Now.

[OssMan]

BENGALS WILL NEVER WIN A PLAYOFF GAME EVER.

[Gonzo]

AssMan tell your Grandpa to sell me his season tickets.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Fuck, I was hoping Cinnci would win so the Pats could play the Colts. I really don't want to see them play Denver. I really wanted to see the Patriots beat the Colts AGAIN. That would be fucking sweet.

[AlphaBean]

Be patient... the AFC Championship game is coming.

Also, LOL at the Giants losing and the Redskins winning. Pz out Elisha.

[Crimson]

Yea what's up with Brady whining this past week about getting no respect? lol that's just laughable. But the Pats are lookin good, I think they'll beat Denver, and yet another Indy/NE game.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Fuck, I was hoping Cinnci would win so the Pats could play the Colts. I really don't want to see them play Denver. I really wanted to see the Patriots beat the Colts AGAIN. That would be fucking sweet.

:yes:

[OssMan]

AssMan tell your Grandpa to sell me his season tickets.NAH bro we are trying to go to a game this year. if the giants have a home game on a saturday or a 3 day weekend we are gonna go up.

usually he sells them for more than face value but if you wanna keep tickets for a game then you have to sell the rest individually i believe. he will probably let us sell them like we did for this season and we gave them to the giants organization or something and they sold them. remember that time you saw me at giants stadium

[Skippord]

Patriots @ Broncos on Saturday night. Should be a hot game.

Think we'll win?

[Gonzo]

NAH bro we are trying to go to a game this year. if the giants have a home game on a saturday or a 3 day weekend we are gonna go up.

usually he sells them for more than face value but if you wanna keep tickets for a game then you have to sell the rest individually i believe. he will probably let us sell them like we did for this season and we gave them to the giants organization or something and they sold them. remember that time you saw me at giants stadium

Yeah dude, if theres any games you're not going to, give me a shout I'll work a deal out for buying them.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It's alright. Most people thought the Bengals were still a year away from the playoffs and they still won the division. Next year, the entire offense is back again and there's a lot of cap room to work with.

Go Seahawks!

[D Mac]

It's alright. Most people thought the Bengals were still a year away from the playoffs and they still won the division. Next year, the entire offense is back again and there's a lot of cap room to work with.

Go Seahawks!

Do you think if Palmer did'nt get injured things would have been different?

[UmbrellaCorporation]

With all due respect to the Steelers, I could've seen the game going a different way if Palmer was in. I'm a Steeler fan, don't get me wrong. But I bet if Palmer got going well, he could've been a force to be reckoned with in that game.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The defense was still terrible so I don't think Palmer would've won the game. They haven't been able to tackle ever and added to the fact that the best tackler on the team Madieu Williams has been out all year didn't help.

I still think the Steelers would've won no matter what.

[Gonzo]

Yeah lol it looked from what I was watching the Bengals were handling the Steelers with Palmer in there. I only saw like one series with Kitna, and he didn't do bad from what I saw, but still.

[Gonzo]

The defense was still terrible so I don't think Palmer would've won the game. They haven't been able to tackle ever and added to the fact that the best tackler on the team Madieu Williams has been out all year didn't help.

I still think the Steelers would've won no matter what.

I hate missed tackles and poor tackling. The way the Giants defense played today my little sister probably could have run the ball over them.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

The Giants just had a crappy day, I think (or I'd like to think so). They're a far, far better team than their game showed today.

All in all, this weekend has been a great one. Can't wait to see the other games.

As long as Seattle beats Washington, I'll be so happy. So, so happy.

[Gonzo]

Yeah I'd like to think so, too bad of all games not to show up to, it was this one.

[D Mac]

The defense was still terrible so I don't think Palmer would've won the game. They haven't been able to tackle ever and added to the fact that the best tackler on the team Madieu Williams has been out all year didn't help.

I still think the Steelers would've won no matter what.

Now you know how I feel. >Chiefs Defense. :mad:

[el fregadero]

Yea what's up with Brady whining this past week about getting no respect? lol that's just laughable. But the Pats are lookin good, I think they'll beat Denver, and yet another Indy/NE game.
He said it as a joke about the Jaguars because all of Jacksonville's fans have said all year that the Jags get no respect because they are a small market team. He didn't actually mean it, he was more-or-less taking Harrison's role as the mouthpiece for the team.

[CNM]

Think we'll win?

Yep. I think it'll be close, but we'll pull it out.

[VonErich Lives]

No, next year's training camp. Torn ACL's dont take THAT long to recover from.

Well, we now know it's the MCL also.

That being said, if it was just the ACL, I know they have some gread advancements and these are pro athletes, but you'd expect the guy to be ready to go in 6 months?

Unless it was like a small partial tare I just can't see that happening.

[CNM]

When they first reported it, they said it was just one ligament. I didn't think he'd be ready for training camp either, but for sure the season. Now with the torn MCL too, who knows.

[VonErich Lives]

He said it as a joke about the Jaguars because all of Jacksonville's fans have said all year that the Jags get no respect because they are a small market team. He didn't actually mean it, he was more-or-less taking Harrison's role as the mouthpiece for the team.

You're right on the last part, taking Harrisons part, but wrong before that. It had nothing to do with the Jags fans or a joke or something he doesn't beleive. He does and this team does, it's how they motivate them selves. It was true on 2001, true in 2003 and maybe even a few times in 2004.

Hey, whatever works for them!

As I said, either the Broncos or Colts was fine with me, if you're going to win you have to beat good teams and both teams are good. If you went to Indy first them you could end up in Denver the next week and vice versa. The only good thing about this way is if Pittsburg can pull off a win and the Pats pull off a win then the AFC championship game is in New England.

[CNM]

The thing I find strange about Brady's statements is, he and the team can't really believe it can they? Not when every notable national media member is sent there to kiss their asses over and over. Not when every single "expert" is saying they are the team to beat.

[VonErich Lives]

The thing I find strange about Brady's statements is, he and the team can't really believe it can they? Not when every notable national media member is sent there to kiss their asses over and over. Not when every single "expert" is saying they are the team to beat.

I don't know where you get every media member is sent here to kiss their ass. When you win, you get coverage plain and simple as Ric Flair coined "to be the man, you have to beat the man" and this team has won their last 10 post season games, so until someone beats them, they're going to get the hype.

I guess it depends on your market, because all we hear about are the Colts and how they can't be stopped etc... Which the Colts earned that right this year with the win streak.

and Brady's refrence is early in the season with all the injuries everyone wrote them off, even Schottenhimer made comments about "you can only dodge injuries for so long" or something like that and Brady got pissed about it.

Last year, I'd agree, going into the Superbowl, it was funny... Everyone was picking them and yet you'd hear them say "no one thinks we can win this", this year, people started to beleive a bit the last few weeks, but they're still not "the pick".

If anyone should really play the disrespect card it's the NFC, once again the AFC championship is being called the Super Bowl, like whoever wins will cakewalk through the NFC team in the Super Bowl (which may be true)..

[AlphaBean]

Panthers will seek redemption this year.

[AlphaBean]

lol, Vikings rebuilding again.

Someone shoot me, and BCWWF too.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

The thing I find strange about Brady's statements is, he and the team can't really believe it can they? Not when every notable national media member is sent there to kiss their asses over and over. Not when every single "expert" is saying they are the team to beat.

Far as I understand it basically Belichick looks for whatever angle he can to motivate them. If they're underdogs, say they'll prove everyone wrong (and to a certain extent they are underdogs from this point). If people are talking more about the Colts, say they get no respect. If they're favourites, say everyone wants them to lose. Simple psychology really.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I refuse to believe teams need motivation to win in the playoffs.

[AlphaBean]

I refuse to believe teams need motivation to win in the playoffs.

I think the Bengals could have used a little motivation.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well at the start of the season, everyone was saying how the Patriots have no chance of winning another one, and how much better the Colts are etc etc I think they can use that help them. Like Supreme said, I am sure they are already motivated, but something that isn't going to hurt is it?

[The Outlaw]

I dunno, every time I've watched ESPN guys always say they are the team to beat. :-\

If it was somehow Colts - Seahawks, I would be torn. :(

Peyton vs. Shaun.
Tennessee vs. Alabama.

Think I'd have to be a homer and pull for the Hawkssss.

[AlphaBean]

Well at the start of the season, everyone was saying how the Patriots have no chance of winning another one, and how much better the Colts are etc etc I think they can use that help them. Like Supreme said, I am sure they are already motivated, but something that isn't going to hurt is it?

A team that has won 3 of the last 4 being written off is absurd. The thing is, when the Lakers were christened at the onset of the season, even when Shaq was gimpy, he'd still be 100% in the playoffs and the Lakers would win. So people just gave up, and admitted the Lakers are unstoppable. When that happened, the Lakers got lazy and started losing.

We just need to sit back and watch Belicheck work his magic. He's going to win it all again, because he's not going to exactly go out and run the entire table just because he can. He gameplanned his dynasty, and we're witnessing another page. These players are professionals, and they know the playoffs like the Lions know top-10 picks. Manning won't get it done this year.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I think the Bengals could have used a little motivation.
That or a QB, safety, or d tackle. But yeah it was prolly motivation

[OssMan]

I want the Redskins to lose so bad this week. I don't think anyone has any idea.

[AlphaBean]

That or a QB, safety, or d tackle. But yeah it was prolly motivation

Oh right I get it -- yeah what the Bengals didn't need was excuses, cause they have plenty of those.

Go whine to the Patriots about injuries, thanks.

[The Outlaw]

I'm pretty sure Carson Palmer going down overshadows any of the Patriot injuries.

Teddy "He does it all" Bruschi was pretty bad, but I still say Carson means more to his team.

[AlphaBean]

Kitna will start somewhere next season, and he will do well. He did well before Carson was handed the starting spot. And the commentators made a special point to point out how Kitna gets a large number of snaps each week in practice just in case.

Fact is, Carson went down, the entire team was running scared. They had the lead ffs, get some motivation to run out the clock or something. Come on.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Looking to the Pats next game. Last time they played Denver they really got smacked, the game wasn't as close as the score. Pats showed something though, to be able to make the score that close in the end. They were playing without Seymour, Bruschi, Dillion, Brown, Faulk and a few others. So this game should be a lot different then the first meeting between these 2 teams. Playing in Denver will be tough though, they are undefeated there this season (I believe?) but unless #7 is playing QB for the Broncos, I don't see them beating the Patriots. Especially if Beisel and Chad Brown play out of their minds like they did last week I really don't see the Pats losing, but hopefully Bruschi will be back anyways.

[AlphaBean]

Oh that's right, the Pats won without Bruschi last week didn't they? That's a lot of "hits" they missed out on, lah.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Beisel played his best game of season though, and even Chad Brown played good. First time I've seen Brown play good in a Pats uniform.

[AlphaBean]

They probably finally realized that they're Patriots, and not Chiefs/Seahawks.

[RP]

I guess being clutch runs in the Manning blood.

OH WAIT

God i wish the Bungals would have won.

[RP]

Honestly. Call me a homer i dont care. I'll say it. I think the Colts are gunna crush Pittsburgh by two touchdowns. Then Crush whoever wins in the Broncos/ Patriots game. In the past i was overly confident because i hoped we were good enough to win. This year i can honestly say we are the best team. Everyone says Manning wont get it done and dawgs Manning out. This guy is in the " Prime " of his career gentleman. He's heard this shit for 3 years now and sat back pretty idley this whole time. Never once complaining about how horrid his defense has been. Never once questioning any part of the system . This guy kept his mouth shut and let the critics critize. Now the best QB has a Top Five ranked defense, two All-Pro defensive players, three probowlers and something to prove? Lights out thank you. Manning will get it done and the Colts are gunna spank that ass. Call me a homer, call me whatever. Just make sure you come correct when it happens. Manning will get it done.

[D Mac]

Homer

[AlphaBean]

Honestly. Call me a homer i dont care. I'll say it. I think the Colts are gunna crush Pittsburgh by two touchdowns. Then Crush whoever wins in the Broncos/ Patriots game. In the past i was overly confident because i hoped we were good enough to win. This year i can honestly say we are the best team. Everyone says Manning wont get it done and dawgs Manning out. This guy is in the " Prime " of his career gentleman. He's heard this shit for 3 years now and sat back pretty idley this whole time. Never once complaining about how horrid his defense has been. Never once questioning any part of the system . This guy kept his mouth shut and let the critics critize. Now the best QB has a Top Five ranked defense, two All-Pro defensive players, three probowlers and something to prove? Lights out thank you. Manning will get it done and the Colts are gunna spank that ass. Call me a homer, call me whatever. Just make sure you come correct when it happens. Manning will get it done.

Lights Out?

http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/packer/img/news/apr05/sm420.jpg

He's going to do a run-in 80s WWF style, wearing a Patriots Jersey, and completely obliterate Manning with a blindsided hit. There will be a 15 yard penalty, but it should be more, because Manning will be dead. And they would try to eject Merriman, but before they could... ninja smoke, and he disappears.

It will happen. I've already emailed his agent. They both love the idea.

[RP]

Either that or Oelhoffen'd.

[RP]

And all i hear now is that the Patriots are the team no one wants to face.

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!

[D Mac]

Explain.

[VonErich Lives]

Kitna will start somewhere next season, and he will do well. He did well before Carson was handed the starting spot. And the commentators made a special point to point out how Kitna gets a large number of snaps each week in practice just in case.

Fact is, Carson went down, the entire team was running scared. They had the lead ffs, get some motivation to run out the clock or something. Come on.

Kitna will probably start in Cinci, torn ACL & MCL, don't see Palmer ready week 1.

That being said, Kitna is not a good starter, he's servicable if that, with a good team around him he can put up some decent numbers, but he can't carry a team.

[The Outlaw]

I've seen guys come back from a torn ACL/MCL. MCL's aren't that bad. Texas Tech's QB had a torn MCL against us and played every series but two - the one where he hurt it and the next one. He came back and led a scoring drive. ACL's are a different story though. One of my HS teammates tore his ACL and MCL at the beginning of this year, and he is running on it now.

[OssMan]

Carson Palmer had more passing yards than Mark Brunell this week

[VonErich Lives]

I've seen guys come back from a torn ACL/MCL. MCL's aren't that bad. Texas Tech's QB had a torn MCL against us and played every series but two - the one where he hurt it and the next one. He came back and led a scoring drive. ACL's are a different story though. One of my HS teammates tore his ACL and MCL at the beginning of this year, and he is running on it now.

Palmer tore both, ACL and MCL, he'll have the best of the best and I hear they have new healing techniques, so who knows.. maybe he will be ready, but I'd be suprised.

[VonErich Lives]

Carson Palmer had more passing yards than Mark Brunell this week

Brunell will have more then Eli Manning this weekend.

[OssMan]

Brunell will have more then Eli Manning this weekend.
Good call

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I'd be shocked if Palmer was 100% before say October. Having said that I only read early sketchy reports that it was the MCL and the ACL, only offical reports I've seen say ACL only.

[AlphaBean]

And all i hear now is that the Patriots are the team no one wants to face.

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chargers broke the streak and couldn't even make the playoffs... that makes the Colts beatable.

Brady is 10 and 0 in the playoffs.

I'd rather play the Colts, tbh.

[VonErich Lives]

So, the Jets are interviewing Eric Mangini. He's been the pats DC for 1year, his experience starts as possible the oldest "ball boy" in history, he was a college graduate and "ball boy" in cleveland, he's someone who has always been somehow labeled as "some day a head coach". There was talk the Pats want to keep him long term to someday take over for Belicheck.

I don't think going to the Jets would be good for a first time coach. Their last coach was a players coach, they need to rebuild, neither one will indear a new coach to the team.

The jets front office/owner and the Pats front office/owner don't get along, haven't since the Parcells situation, so this could be the case of the Jets just trying to screw with the Pats before a big playoff game.

Would he take the job? good question, will probably mean more money, my bet is, the Pats offer him 500-1mil range to stay as DC and that would keep him from taking a HC job just for the money, rather then the "right" situation.

[AlphaBean]

Eric Mangina

[VonErich Lives]

Eric Mangina

Hey, so are the Vikes getting fined for not intervewing a "Negro" before they hired a white coach?

[D Mac]

Former Vikings coach Mike Tice is among the contenders to replace Herman Edwards as coach of the New York Jets.

[Excellance of Execution]

Who do you guys think Houston will take with the first pick in the draft (assuming Bush declares)? Supposedly, alot of fans want them to take Vince Young to 'groom' behind Carr. I think they are in a pretty shitty spot to say the least. I think Carr is a good qb who lacks an OL capable of blocking. He's very mobile, so i'm not sure Vince would do that much better. They have Dominick Davis, so they really don't need Reggie. So what do you do if your them? Trade down and pick up more picks? I would do that if i were them. They need an o-line more than anything. What do you think?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

If you draft Reggie Bush you are going to need somebody like Davis. Reggie only carried it 10-15 times in college - so he's not going to carry it 25-30 times a game as a pro. I am pretty sure the Texans already announced they are drafting Bush - good luck to him running behind that offensive line.

[AlphaBean]

Hey, so are the Vikes getting fined for not intervewing a "Negro" before they hired a white coach?

They interviewed one Theodore S Cottrell, Esquire.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

1) Bush
2) Leinart or Young
3) See 2)

If it's any different from that it'll be a surprise.

[VonErich Lives]

They interviewed one Theodore S Cottrell, Esquire.

Nice, get the guy to take the Token interview so they wont get fined.

Did the new coach keep him?

Remember when Detroit made it clear they wanted Marriuci, but had to interview a minority canidate, so they called Dennis Green but he refused to interview so they got fined.

[VonErich Lives]

And all i hear now is that the Patriots are the team no one wants to face.

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!

Explain.

[VonErich Lives]

If I coached Houston.

Draft Bush.

Trade Davis to Philly for Owens

Trade up into the late first round and grab Jay Cutler.

[The Outlaw]

Jay Cutler will have the best career as a pro out of the QBs taken this year, IMO

[Gonzo]

If I coached Houston.

Draft Bush.

Trade Davis to Philly for Owens

Trade up into the late first round and grab Jay Cutler.

Even though Philly would love to get rid of T.O., they would not do it for Domanick Davis. They want something big for him, I could almost guarantee that. Its not going to be some David Boston type deal.

[Excellance of Execution]

If I coached Houston.

Draft Bush.

Trade Davis to Philly for Owens

Trade up into the late first round and grab Jay Cutler.

VEL, nobody is going to trade for Owens. Philly is going to cut him. He is owed something like a 5 million dollar roster bonus if he's on the team by a certain date (not sure what it is). Any team would be foolish to trade for him. That would mean they would have to pay him that and pick up the rest of his contract. Not worth it. When he's cut any team can pick him up for far less then he is making now. I think houston should trade down and pick up more picks. They are not weak at RB and QB, they need help in just about every other aspect of the team. So more picks=more holes filled.

[VonErich Lives]

Even though Philly would love to get rid of T.O., they would not do it for Domanick Davis. They want something big for him, I could almost guarantee that. Its not going to be some David Boston type deal.

OR

VEL, nobody is going to trade for Owens. Philly is going to cut him. He is owed something like a 5 million dollar roster bonus if he's on the team by a certain date (not sure what it is). Any team would be foolish to trade for him. That would mean they would have to pay him that and pick up the rest of his contract. Not worth it. When he's cut any team can pick him up for far less then he is making now. I think houston should trade down and pick up more picks. They are not weak at RB and QB, they need help in just about every other aspect of the team. So more picks=more holes filled.

So, you both say I'm wrong, but for opposite reasons, so you two duke it out in the thunderdome, 2 men enter, 1 man leave and then I'll know which to respond to.

ok, lets make it an Orgy! (plays Visera music).

Gonzo - Philly will take any reasonable offer just to get rid of the salary left. What they want and what they know they'll get are completely different.

EoE - Someone will trade for him, someone will pick up the money after a bunch of meetings with him and say something like "We talked and he's happy to be here and anything he can do to help us win". Bush>Davis, TO>______ and Cutlert>Carr.

Maybe Carr will finally break out, he's had some flahses... I just don't see it.

While I feel strongly you build a team with Defense and Special Teams, Houston also needs butts in the seats, and that type of team could put up some points, and be young enough to allow you to build the next few years. TO one one side, Andre Johnson on the other, Bush linening up in the backfield and the slot.

Their OL has been together 3-4 years, and most are young, but they gave up over 60 sacks, I don't watch Houston games, but I wonder how many were there fault and how many were Carr not getting rid of the ball.

That would be my plan, but the "core offense" in place this year and let the build together while you improve the defense, and maybe steal a few wins in some shoot outs.

[Gonzo]

Well, I was unaware of the contract situation. So EoE's point makes a ton more sense. I can't imagine any team actually trading for him then unless the Eagles package something with Terrell to make the contract the other team would be picking up a non issue.

[Excellance of Execution]

This is an article i found on Yahoo sports. Its the Eagles giving Rosenhaus permission to seek a trade for Owens. With this being the case, i don't see anyone trading for him. It would be stupid.

PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- The Philadelphia Eagles have given agent Drew Rosenhaus permission to seek a trade for Terrell Owens, though it's unlikely a team would give up players or draft picks for the star receiver.

Owens' tumultuous time in Philadelphia ended in November when the Eagles suspended him four games for conduct detrimental to the team and deactivated him the last five games of the season.

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A series of infractions, including repeated criticism of quarterback Donovan McNabb and a verbal shot at the organization, led to Owens' banishment.

Rosenhaus has worked out trades for other client's in the past, including Washington running back Clinton Portis. However, it'll be difficult to do so with Owens, considering other teams know the Eagles are forced to cut him by March 1. Owens is due a $2.5 million signing bonus and $5 million roster bonus by that date if the Eagles don't let him go before.

Owens has five seasons remaining on the seven-year, $48.97 million contract he signed in March 2004. If a team trades for Owens, it would assume the contract he negotiated with the Eagles or redo the deal.

Owens is due a base salary of $770,000 next season, and was set to earn $5.5 million in 2007, $6.5 million in 2008, $7.5 million in 2009, and $8.5 million in 2010.

His problems in Philadelphia started when he demanded a new contract after an outstanding season in which he caught 77 passes for 1,200 yards and 14 touchdowns, helping the Eagles reach the Super Bowl for the first time in 24 years.

The 10-year veteran caught 47 passes for 763 yards and six touchdowns in a career-low seven games this season.

In late November, arbitrator Richard Bloch upheld the Eagles' suspension of Owens.

[VonErich Lives]

Someone will trade for him, the only reason is, it keeps him from being on the open market.

Plus, you can renegotiate deals.

I told you what I would do, not what I think they'll do.

Anyway, someone tell me this, all the jobs Kubiack has turned down over the years, what made the Texas so appealing that he took it?

[Excellance of Execution]

Someone will trade for him, the only reason is, it keeps him from being on the open market.

Why would anyone trade for him if he will be a FA? Would you give up a draft pick or another player for someone you can sign when he's cut? Bottom line is, he will be cut and NO team will give him a ton of money. Someone will probably give him a one year deal for decent money, but noone is going to give him a ton of money right now. He may get more money down the road, but thats IF he can straighten out and be a team player.

Plus, you can renegotiate deals.

I told you what I would do, not what I think they'll do.

Sure you can renegotiate deals, but when he's a free agent you can give him the same money contract you would if you renegotiated with him, except you wouldn't be giving up any draft picks.

Anyway, someone tell me this, all the jobs Kubiack has turned down over the years, what made the Texas so appealing that he took it?

Where did you hear this? I thought you couldn't negotiate with a coach in the playoffs? If he did take the job, i would think it has to do with the Texans potential. The owner seems like he's willing to spend money, and as far as i'm concerned they are a couple O-linemen away from being competetive. Davis is a stud and i think Carr could be very good if he was given more than 2 seconds to throw. I think their defense is decent and i honestly think they are a few pieces away from being a playoff team. Isn't that what you'd be looking for if you were a coach?

[VonErich Lives]

again, we'll agree to disagree on Owens. There will probably be a trade before a cut.

on Kubiack they've been reporting it on the radio, but I don't see anything on espn's site, so it may be a speculation they jumped the guy on.

I did just read an article that Kubiack didn't leave Denver because his kids were "growing up" and didn't want to move them around, but he's from Houston, played at A&M and interviewed for the Texans job before Capers got it.

There are rules about coaches interviewing during playoffs, I think it's usually only on a bye week, but a team can give permission at other times. Kubiack interviews last week during the bye.

The NFL had to set up rules, because the top OC/DC on super bowl teams, weren't getting jobs because owners were making decisions before the superbowl and these guys were busy trying to win still.

[Excellance of Execution]

again, we'll agree to disagree on Owens. There will probably be a trade before a cut.

on Kubiack they've been reporting it on the radio, but I don't see anything on espn's site, so it may be a speculation they jumped the guy on.

I did just read an article that Kubiack didn't leave Denver because his kids were "growing up" and didn't want to move them around, but he's from Houston, played at A&M and interviewed for the Texans job before Capers got it.

There are rules about coaches interviewing during playoffs, I think it's usually only on a bye week, but a team can give permission at other times. Kubiack interviews last week during the bye.

The NFL had to set up rules, because the top OC/DC on super bowl teams, weren't getting jobs because owners were making decisions before the superbowl and these guys were busy trying to win still.

I agree, lets agree to disagree:lol: We'll see what happens. I'll stick with my gut feeling that he will be cut and someone will give him a chance.

[Gonzo]

Agreed. :y:

[The Greater Power]

Packers new coach is going to be Mike McCarthy, offensive coordinator of the 49ers.

He has coached for 20+ years and has a good relationship with Favre. Plus he was here (GB) in 1999.

Many people will bash this, but hey, don't judge a guy before you see what he does with a team. I am very much looking forward to next season.

[AlphaBean]

Nice, get the guy to take the Token interview so they wont get fined.

Did the new coach keep him?

Remember when Detroit made it clear they wanted Marriuci, but had to interview a minority canidate, so they called Dennis Green but he refused to interview so they got fined.

Hahahaha no he got cut, they brought in a 33 year old, the d-backs coach of the Buccs... so we'll be getting the tampa 2 next year. Too bad we don't have the team for it.

[D Mac]

Chiefs will get T.O.

[RP]

I think T.O will be starting for the Eagles next year. Belive it or not.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Even though I picked Denver, I checked the spread last night and the Pats were evens at +3, which is unbelievably tempting :-\

[Gonzo]

I think forcing teams to interview a minority candidate is fucking stupid.

[VonErich Lives]

I think forcing teams to interview a minority candidate is fucking stupid.

Do you feel the same about all affirmative Action/Racial Quotas?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Perhaps in the NFL it is slightly different because there are so few genuinely qualified candidates?

[RP]

Give the baby a bottle would ya Pittsburgh?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs05/news/story?id=2289603

I think the Colts style is pretty smash mouth. Fuck your back ups. We're gunna wear your ass out down the field. No substitutions. Eat shit Pittsburgh. Or maybe get a little more game stamina maybe? Or just cry about it and get your ass stomped for a second time this year.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Eh, Porter just wants to bait them so they change their game and try to prove him wrong by trying to hit everything in sight.

Either that or he never engages his brain while playing.

[VonErich Lives]

Give the baby a bottle would ya Pittsburgh?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs05/news/story?id=2289603

I think the Colts style is pretty smash mouth. Fuck your back ups. We're gunna wear your ass out down the field. No substitutions. Eat shit Pittsburgh. Or maybe get a little more game stamina maybe? Or just cry about it and get your ass stomped for a second time this year.

Welcome to our world, now you understand why no one likes Pittsburg, they never shut their mouth.

If they loose "we were the better team".

It doesn't matter if they're down 21 points in the 4th, their mouth keeps going.

That being said, the Colts aren't a "smash mouth" offense, that's not how their built and that's not what they need to be, plenty of teams aren't. I think their record shows their style works pretty well for them.

Also, we're still waiting for:

And all i hear now is that the Patriots are the team no one wants to face.

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!

Explain.

I'm sure you'll have good reasons, I've been getting a kick out of these Broncos fans that have been calling local sports radio here.

Their top reasons why the Broncos will win.

1) The Pats lost 28-20 earlier this year.
2) The Pats haven't won in Denver since 2003
3) Denver won the last time these two met in the playoffs 22-17

It's really funny, I mean I can pull plenty of reasons and ways, why the Broncos could win, logical ones, such as, they have a good OL and if they pound the ball enough, and the Pats keep 8 in the box, they have a chance to burn those DB's going deep.

Using their logic, the Pats should win since they are on a 10-0 run in the playoffs and meanwhile Shanahan hasn't won a playoff game w/o Elway. (which is a stupid reason and no, I'm not using that as a reason).

TGIF, Friday will fly by, can't wait till Saturday night!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I think forcing teams to interview a minority candidate is fucking stupid.
It's stupid but it's been a necessity. I mean most owners look at recycled former coaches first and without it Lovie Smith, Romeo Crennel, Marvin Lewis, etc. might not get a shot at being a head coach. Plus it appears that the next great head coach (Tim Lewis) is also black so in other words it's for the owners' own good.

[Skippord]

Welcome to our world, now you understand why no one likes Pittsburg, they never shut their mouth.

If they loose "we were the better team".

It doesn't matter if they're down 21 points in the 4th, their mouth keeps going.

That being said, the Colts aren't a "smash mouth" offense, that's not how their built and that's not what they need to be, plenty of teams aren't. I think their record shows their style works pretty well for them.

Also, we're still waiting for:





I'm sure you'll have good reasons, I've been getting a kick out of these Broncos fans that have been calling local sports radio here.

Their top reasons why the Broncos will win.

1) The Pats lost 28-20 earlier this year.
2) The Pats haven't won in Denver since 2003
3) Denver won the last time these two met in the playoffs 22-17

It's really funny, I mean I can pull plenty of reasons and ways, why the Broncos could win, logical ones, such as, they have a good OL and if they pound the ball enough, and the Pats keep 8 in the box, they have a chance to burn those DB's going deep.

Using their logic, the Pats should win since they are on a 10-0 run in the playoffs and meanwhile Shanahan hasn't won a playoff game w/o Elway. (which is a stupid reason and no, I'm not using that as a reason).

TGIF, Friday will fly by, can't wait till Saturday night!

Just know they dont speak for us :nono:

[AlphaBean]

Someone will trade for him, the only reason is, it keeps him from being on the open market.

Plus, you can renegotiate deals.

I told you what I would do, not what I think they'll do.

Anyway, someone tell me this, all the jobs Kubiack has turned down over the years, what made the Texas so appealing that he took it?

I don't buy the "potential" horseshit. All teams have potential. They're all 10 free agent pick-ups and 14 draft picks away from being contenders.

The more probable reasons are:

1) He's a native Texan
2) Reggie Bush
3) ...Reggie Bush.

Actually #3 should be, it's about time. He's been around too long to never get a head coaching job. Maybe he didn't want to jump the gun and embarrass himself. And if this was the year to do it, Vikings are win now. Packers are win 5 years ago, Lions are win never, Chiefs are win yesterday, but break a hip tomorrow, Rams are win in 99. So in a way, maybe it's potential... the Texans are the only team with three good skill position players. trade a mid-round pick for Owens, and you have the potential to be an amazing offense...

Oops, potential! :$

[Gonzo]

Do you feel the same about all affirmative Action/Racial Quotas?

Yeah, they are fucking stupid. Best man or woman gets the job, or should, in my mind, period.

[AlphaBean]

Best man or woman SHOULD get the job.

But even if there are 99 people who hire based on qualifications, if there is one who hires based on personal bias, that is unacceptable.

I won't turn this into an affirmative action debate... but there was a time when it was the popular belief that blacks did not have the minds to coach, or to play quarterback.

This rule is responsible for people like Marvin Lewis, Lovie Smith, Tony Dungy etc. getting their jobs. There will come a time when the rule is not necessary... but what does it hurt, honestly? First off, it prevents racism. Second off, LOOK WHO HAS BEEN HIRED AS A RESULT. It's like being forced to play the lottery, except for free. In the end, what did it cost you besides a three-hour interview?

[The Icon of Elisim]

Holy shit, Palmer's injury is worse than a torn ACL and MCL but his doctors still think he could be back for the start of next season. CRAZY

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2290239

[Gonzo]

Best man or woman SHOULD get the job.

But even if there are 99 people who hire based on qualifications, if there is one who hires based on personal bias, that is unacceptable.

I won't turn this into an affirmative action debate... but there was a time when it was the popular belief that blacks did not have the minds to coach, or to play quarterback.

This rule is responsible for people like Marvin Lewis, Lovie Smith, Tony Dungy etc. getting their jobs. There will come a time when the rule is not necessary... but what does it hurt, honestly? First off, it prevents racism. Second off, LOOK WHO HAS BEEN HIRED AS A RESULT. It's like being forced to play the lottery, except for free. In the end, what did it cost you besides a three-hour interview?

I'm not denying that a black coach isn't as qualified as a white coach or anything like that. Tony Dungy, Marvin Lewis and Lovie Smith all have shown they know the recipe for success and more power to them. The thing that annoys me about this little rule the NFL has, is that the teams should take it upon themselves to interview a broad range of candidates, rather than being told to do so. I guess thats the world we live in.

[OssMan]

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS
HAIL VICTORY
BRAVES ON THE WARPATH
FIGHT FOR OLD D.C

[RoXer]

So is Shawn Alexander gay or whats goin on here?

[Corndad]

If you base your hatred of the Steelers on Joey Porter, I wouldn't.

A bunch of us in Pittsburgh can't stand him either.

[The Miz]

I'm glad I went to this game because this is the kind of game that wold be really boring to watch on TV. But I can finally breathe this sigh of relief.

Suck it, George Orwell

[Corndad]

Watching the Pats losing makes me smile.

[RP]

I dunno. New England just scored really quick

[RP]

ahhh nm

[RoXer]

What do the Broncos chant at the end of 3rd downs?

[The Miz]

Anyone have VEL's phone number, he told us to "call him when Vinatieri misses a big time field goal"

[RP]

Troy Brown is on suicide watch.

[CNM]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO what a game. Finally, after 7 years, we win a playoff game. Goooo Broncosss :love:

[VonErich Lives]

yep, Pats lost, still got 3 rings the last 4 years :)

The Pass interferance call was complete crap, the Side Judge had the view and didn't throw it, the back judge from the other side of the field threw it, horrible call.

The turnovers (like any team) killed the pats, I give the Broncos credit, they capitalised on turnovers which is what the good teams do to win.

Play of the game, Ben Watson on Champ Bailey :)

We've been spoiled as Pats fans, Vinateri always hits them, Brady doesn't make bad throws, they don't fumble... but it all happened today.

Troy Brown, best KR on the team, the guy who is put in for high/short kicks...

Ellis Hobbs... Kevin Faulk...

what can I say, Denver won.

*tips hat to Denver fans*

Held Bell/Anderson to under 90yds combined

Held Plummer to under 200 yds, sacked twice.

Brady never got sacked, threw for 341yds

5 turnovers.

That should be the real score.

Denver 5, Patriots 1.

The turnovers is what killed the Pats.

ugh... I'd rather have been just completely out played then lose that way.

I'd rather have seen plummer put up 400yds and andersn and bell each rush for 100yds, the lose on 5 fucking turnovers.

[VonErich Lives]

Anyways, so, RP... what's the scoop on this guy who'se wife stabbed him in the knee?

[The Miz]

yep, Pats lost, still got 3 rings the last 4 years :)

*3 the last 5. And I knew this would be the first sentence.

[VonErich Lives]

*3 the last 5. And I knew this would be the first sentence.

Since we haven't had the super bowl yet, it's still 3 the last 4, then it becomes 3 out of 4. See how the wording changes, but the rings don't fade. :p

I take nothing away from Denver tonight and whoever wins the SB this year, but in the same, you can't take away from what the Pats have done, 3 in 4 years, one of the best "dynasties" in nfl history (Pitt, Dallas, SF the others)

[RP]

Anyways, so, RP... what's the scoop on this guy who'se wife stabbed him in the knee?


It was Nick Harper. Starting CB. Domestic issues have been a problem for him and his wife. He was arrested last year on domestic issues. She claimed he hit her.

[The Miz]

I love Boston fans.

"Forget the 86 years, it's all about what the Red Sox did this year"

"Forget this year, it's all about what the Patriots did 3 of the last 4 years"

[VonErich Lives]

I love Boston fans.

"Forget the 86 years, it's all about what the Red Sox did this year"

"Forget this year, it's all about what the Patriots did 3 of the last 4 years"

I love Seattle fans, "We've won nothing, so we just try and piss on everyone else and make ourselves look like bigger asses then we already are".

Really, isn't their a star bucks you should be at?

No, the Red Sox one win doesn't erase 86 years.

No, the Pats loss in the playoffs this year doesn't erase 10 in a row in the playoffs, 3 superbowls in 4 years, back 2 back superbowl wins.

That being said, their is a reason it's called "history" and the only team that gets the bragging rights is the winner on Feb 5th.

Who knows, maybe Seattle will finally have something to brag about!

[Skippord]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO what a game. Finally, after 7 years, we win a playoff game. Goooo Broncosss :love:

I was at the game fuckin awesome game

Me and my brother were cheering for Todd Sauerbraun all game :rofl:

[The Miz]

I love Seattle fans, "We've won nothing, so we just try and piss on everyone else and make ourselves look like bigger asses then we already are".

Really, isn't their a star bucks you should be at?

No, the Red Sox one win doesn't erase 86 years.

No, the Pats loss in the playoffs this year doesn't erase 10 in a row in the playoffs, 3 superbowls in 4 years, back 2 back superbowl wins.

That being said, their is a reason it's called "history" and the only team that gets the bragging rights is the winner on Feb 5th.

Who knows, maybe Seattle will finally have something to brag about!

VEL you are way too predictable. I don't know how many times I've told you this, but Seattle has nothing to do with Boston or Boston fans. Every time I've ever made a post about Boston/Boston fans you seem to bring up Seattle, you shold try to stay on topic.

I don't think it was you specifically who had the "who cares about the past years, we won it this year" attitude, but I've definately heard that out of several Boston fans. And now you say the exact opposite (and I know many more will share that attitude), it just makes the whole community of Boston fans look even more retarded than they are generally perceived to be. Don't flip flop. The Patriots are one of the greatest dynasties regardless of 2006, and the Red Sox are the biggest chokers in history regardless of 2004. As long as you understand that.

[VonErich Lives]

VEL you are way too predictable. I don't know how many times I've told you this, but Seattle has nothing to do with Boston or Boston fans. Every time I've ever made a post about Boston/Boston fans you seem to bring up Seattle, you shold try to stay on topic.

I don't think it was you specifically who had the "who cares about the past years, we won it this year" attitude, but I've definately heard that out of several Boston fans. And now you say the exact opposite (and I know many more will share that attitude), it just makes the whole community of Boston fans look even more retarded than they are generally perceived to be. Don't flip flop. The Patriots are one of the greatest dynasties regardless of 2006, and the Red Sox are the biggest chokers in history regardless of 2004. As long as you understand that.

yeah, sure, whatever you say... :roll:

[VonErich Lives]

I was at the game fuckin awesome game

Me and my brother were cheering for Todd Sauerbraun all game :rofl:

from a fan stand point, must have been a great game to be at.

[The Miz]

Really, isn't their a star bucks you should be at?

LOL, don't know how I missed this the first time. New sig :cool:

Cuz yknow, all we do in Seattle is drink coffee, and being at a Starbucks is very insulting. I'm hurt deeply, not quite as much as when you rolled your eyes at me or called me The Wiz, but the pain is there

[FearedSanctity]

:heart:

[VonErich Lives]

LOL, don't know how I missed this the first time. New sig :cool:

Cuz yknow, all we do in Seattle is drink coffee, and being at a Starbucks is very insulting. I'm hurt deeply, not quite as much as when you rolled your eyes at me or called me The Wiz, but the pain is there

or maybe it's because Starbucks was founded in seattle.

Anyway, you're a dipshit, and not worth my time.

If I respond it's because I "really care what you think/say about me".

If I don't respond it's because I "know I'm wrong and wont admit it".

If you bring something up it's "the topic"

If I bring up something that relates in a response I'm "off topic"

Whatever, just post what you want, I really don't care, and just reply and edit a quote with my name so I can say whatever you want, whatever makes you happy, dipshit.

wait, I see it now "you posted a long response you really care what I say"

and

"you called me a name waaaaaaaaaaaaah, you always call me names when I'm right and you're wrong."

whatever you're not worth the time of a post.

[RP]

How fucking fast is Ben Watson. Geez

[Skippord]

from a fan stand point, must have been a great game to be at.

It was I'll admit it I marked out like a little bitch when Todd Sauerbraun forced the fumble

[RP]

It was I'll admit it I marked out like a little bitch when Todd Sauerbraun forced the fumble


I didnt. Todd Sauerbraun takes steroids.

[Skippord]

It was fucking hilarious in the stadium though Everyones like wait did the kicker just force a fumble