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VonErich Lives
09-16-2005, 04:35 PM
So, how bout those Bengals?
Let's get the conversation off of New England/Indy for longer than 5 minutes.
Palmer should have a good year.
MoRcHeEbA
09-16-2005, 04:57 PM
NOT AS GOOD AS MANNING
The Icon of Elisim
09-16-2005, 05:59 PM
YOU MEAN PEYTON "BIG GAME" MANNING? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Lotus
09-16-2005, 06:04 PM
Cincy will own the Vikings this weekend. Just like the Raiders will get KC and the Falcons will fuck up Seattle.
The Outlaw
09-16-2005, 06:05 PM
THEIR RECEIVERS ARE SOFT
The Outlaw
09-16-2005, 06:05 PM
Yeah I am hoping for a Cincy win. Carson Palmer to CJ = :love:
BCWWF
09-16-2005, 06:45 PM
Hmm. I thought I posted earlier but I don't see it now. Anyway, the Vikes could really easily go down 0-2 to start the season. I'm getting a little worried, although it still should be hard to make the NFC playoffs, especially with how bad the Packers look right now.
Rain Man
09-16-2005, 09:14 PM
word people possibly getting injured is usually pretty funny.
Stop being such a girl
Lotus
09-16-2005, 11:02 PM
Hmm. I thought I posted earlier but I don't see it now. Anyway, the Vikes could really easily go down 0-2 to start the season. I'm getting a little worried, although it still should be hard to make the NFC playoffs, especially with how bad the Packers look right now.
Your Vikings have eliminated me from the Survivor pool :mad: But they should still get first, I don't think the Lions will stay good the whole season. They'll be good the first half, and fall off in the second half.
Jerichoholic
09-17-2005, 12:32 AM
I found this article on another forum that I visit. Most of you probably wont have much interest in it, unless you are a cowboys or maybe even an eagles fan. I thought I would pass it on though because it is a really good read, and shows that some eagles fans DO actually have some class.
WARNING, it is a pretty long read.
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Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith, and Michael Irvin became The Triplets on January 10th, 1992. They beat the Eagles 34-10 in the divisional round of the playoffs that day, en route to their first Super Bowl victory.
Some may quibble with that birth date, saying that The Triplets were born a week later when they beat the 49ers to win the NFC, or a few weeks later, when they steamrolled the hapless Bills to win the Super Bowl. But heroes must slay dragons to become legends. The Eagles breathed fire in those days, and three young Dallas warriors subdued them with sword and lance to become legends that January day.
Legends in Texas, to be sure, and in most of America. In Philadelphia, they became arch villains. We rooted for the dragon. So while most of a nation respected and admired The Triplets, we grew to despise and revile them.
And while most football fans will tip their caps at The Triplets as the enter the Cowboys Ring of Honor, a few rival fans, still tasting sour grapes from a decade ago, may be tempted to say “good riddance".
Buddy, Bounties, and Hot Dog Wrappers
The Redskins-Cowboys rivalry is one of the greatest in American sports. By contrast, the Eagles-Cowboys rivalry has usually been a one-sided hate fest, born from decades of gridiron failure along the Delaware River. Philadelphia-area Cowboys fans are reviled as the ultimate traitors, prodigal sons wooed by the glamour, the flash, and the possibility of an actual championship that the Cowboys offered in the 1960s, 70’s, and 80s. By contrast, Texans view Eagles fans as just another bunch of also-rans with a chip on their shoulders.
Times were different in 1988, when the first Triplet, Michael Irvin, entered the NFL. The Cowboys had fallen on hard times, and Eagles coach Buddy Ryan made it team policy to kick dirt on them whenever he could, running up the score at the end of one game by having Randall Cunningham fake a clock-killing kneel, only to uncork a bomb. Ryan’s antics earned him adoration in the beer-soaked 700 level of Veterans Stadium. Every 23-7 and 27-0 victory was a reminder that while the Eagles couldn’t get over the playoff hump, at least the Cowboys were lying facedown in the mud. And Cowboys fans, unaccustomed to losing, began to return a little of the hate.
Irvin couldn’t harm us back in 1988, certainly not with Steve Pelluer throwing him the ball. Aikman arrived a year later. He made his debut against the Eagles in Dallas on Thanksgiving Day in 1989. He completed 7-of-21 passes for 54 yards and three interceptions. The Eagles cruised to a 27-0 win.
We soon learned that there was a price on Aikman’s head. “We were told last night by a Philadelphia coach,” said Cowboys coach Jimmy Johnson after the game, “and it’s confirmed by two different players - there’s a $200 bounty on (kicker Luis) Zendejas and a $500 bounty on Troy.” Players allegedly collected bonuses for knocking Cowboys out of the game; Ryan called the allegations “crap". The Bounty Bowl saga lasted through the Eagles 20-10 win over Dallas a few weeks later, in which Aikman threw his first touchdown against the Eagles. The league investigated. The media was outraged. Eagles fans, for the most part, snickered along with their defiant coach.
Irvin and Aikman were still merely a duet; neither even had their starting jobs locked up in 1989, and Irvin was hurt much of the year. Smith arrived in 1990, scoring a late touchdown to spur a near comeback by the Cowboys in a 21-20 Eagles win.
We feared this new arrival from the start. “Describing his running style is as futile as tackling him,” wrote Philadelphia Inquirer scribe Jere Longman in 1990. Longman took a darn good stab at it anyway: “Smith is not big (5-foot-9, 195 pounds) or particularly fast (4.5 seconds in the 40-yard dash). But he is maddening to tackle. He darts, feints, shifts back and forth like a typewriter carriage. He stops in the hole – comes to a complete stop – looks unhurriedly for a seam and skates across the field like a hot dog wrapper.”
Now part of a trio of offensive stars in Dallas, Smith was destined to get bigger. And loom larger.
Settled Scores and Dead Chickens
The Cowboys returned to playoffs in 1991. Irvin finally shook off injuries and became an outstanding receiver. He scored his first touchdown against the Eagles in a late December win at Veterans Stadium, the Cowboys’ first win in Philly since 1986. Steve Beuerlein, subbing for Aikman, threw the pass. Times were changing. Buddy Ryan was gone. The Eagles missed the playoffs for the first time in four years. The Cowboys reached the playoffs, only to be hammered by the Lions. Our most hated rivals were once again worthy foes, thanks in part to their trio of young offensive stars. But they weren’t The Triplets yet: legends don’t lose to the Lions in the playoffs.
Then 1992 arrived. The Cowboys went 13-3, running away with the division. The Eagles were a Wild Card team. The Cowboys’ worst lost of that season was in Philadelphia, a 34-7 rout. The Eagles beat the Saints in the Wild Card game, their first playoff win since the Dick Vermeil era. Despite a two-game difference in the standings, there was reason to believe that two equals were squaring off at on that January day in Texas Stadium.
Until the game started.
The Eagles took a 3-0 lead on their first possession, but Aikman orchestrated a 10-play, 46-yard scoring drive, helped along by a 16-yard run by Smith. Later in the first half, Aikman completed a bomb to WR Alvin Harper, then a scoring strike to Jay Novacek. On the first possession of the third quarter, Irvin got involved, turning a slant into a 22-yard catch to put the Cowboys in Eagles territory.
Then Smith took over. His 23-yard touchdown run four plays after Irvin’s catch gave the Cowboys a 24-3 lead. And Smith personally secured that lead. The Eagles did everything to stop him – safety Andre Waters was accused of threatening to break Smith’s leg – but nothing worked, as Smith racked up 74 rushing yards after halftime.
As the Eagles headed for the tunnel, a Cowboys fan dangled a dead rubber chicken dressed in green over their heads. Fans shouted “F*** Philadelphia!” as the Eagles left the field. The Eagles had been systematically dismantled. Aikman finished with 200 yards and two TDs. Smith ran for 114 yards and a touchdown. Irvin caught six passes for 88 yards.
Three great players, now battle-hardened, now capable of settling old scores. They purged memories of Buddy Ryan. Then they finished some business with the 49ers, who climbed over the Cowboys’ backs and into prominence in the early 1980s. Then they racked up 52 points in the Super Bowl.
They deserved a better nickname. But The Triplets would do, especially when Eagles (and Redskins, and Niners) fans added a few choice expletives to the appellation.
Winters of Disrespect
Irvin was an easy target, with his legal problems and outsized appetites for drugs and women. He was everything Philadelphia fans hate: Apollo Creed, without the class. We swore he pushed off every time he got open, except for the times when Novacek set a pick for his defender on a crossing route.
We questioned Aikman’s manhood, and his sexuality. It was a common joke in Philly, repeated often on talk radio, shouted from the 700-level. As he beat us time and again, grinding the Eagles into the dirt like he was snuffing out a cigarette on his way to another Lombardi trophy, it was all we had left to taunt him with. It was juvenile, the humor of last resort as Rick Kotite’s Eagles slipped into the basement.
And Smith? He scared the hell out of us, always earning something close to grudging respect. He was the one doing all the dirty work, we reasoned. In 1993, he set a Cowboys record with 237 rushing yards in one game against the Eagles. The old mark was set by Tony Dorsett. Against the Eagles.
As the Super Bowl victories piled up in Dallas, memories of bounties and Buddy boasts and fake-kneels faded. The Eagles were just a speed bump, swept by the Cowboys in 1993 and 1994. In Philly, Ryan’s Cowboy-stompin’ heyday became legendary, tales of a time before ogres named Troy, Michael, and Emmitt ruled the NFL.
The Eagles and their fans clamored for respect. The Eagles were 10-point underdogs at home against Dallas in 1993; the Philadelphia Daily News ran an article in which several players grumbled about the spread. The Eagles didn’t cover. In 1994, Cowboys LB Robert Jones was asked about the Eagles rushing attack of Herschel Walker and Charlie Garner. “They put no fear in our hearts,” he quipped.
Cowboys pride became hubris on December 10th, 1995. Many of the names had changed – Barry Switzer coached the Cowboys, Ray Rhodes the Eagles – but The Triplets were still there, two championships in the bag and a third in their sights. So with the score tied at 17, with the ball on the Cowboys 29-yard line, and facing 4th-and-1 late in the game, it may have made some sense for Switzer to call Smith’s number on a simple off-tackle run.
But when Smith was stuffed, yet officials declared that the play had been whistled dead and that the Cowboys would get another chance, it made a lot less sense to call the exact same play. Smith was stuffed again. The Eagles kicked a field goal and won the game.
We had stopped the Cowboys. We had stopped Smith, most dangerous of the Triplets. The Eagles were returning to the playoffs. Fans believed again, believed in the tough-talking Rhodes, in offensive wunderkind Jon Gruden, in our ability to beat the Cowboys now that they were older, fattened by success, and coached by a dolt.
After a lopsided victory over the Lions in a Wild Card game, the Eagles traveled to play the Cowboys in January of 1996. A winter storm dumped over a foot of snow on Philadelphia that weekend. Fans stayed in their homes, hoping for playoff redemption.
Instead, we got a reality check: Cowboys 30, Eagles 11.
Smith rushed for 99 yards and one of the touchdowns. Aikman threw another to Irvin, their only hookup of the game. The first touchdown of the game was scored by a new foe: Deion Sanders, who took a handoff on a reverse, escaped three tacklers, and raced 21-yards into the end zone. “I finally got to see the dance,” Irvin said of Sanders’ first score as a Cowboy.
Eagles fans saw the dance too. Had The Triplets become the Four Horsemen? It was irrelevant. The Philadelphia Inquirer called the game “just another Texas Stadium mismatch.” Eagles fans rooted for the Steelers as hopelessly as we had rooted for the Bills against the Cowboys in the Super Bowl.
Three players, three rings. One city of fans shaking their fists at the mountain.
Brotherly Loathe
The Triplets remained great after that third Super Bowl win, but they ceased to be immortal. Eagles fans learned they were human in 1996, when Aikman threw an interception in the end zone to conclude what appeared to be a come-from-behind Cowboys drive. The Eagles became terrible, but the Cowboys were suddenly just good, and they could no longer wither us with their gaze. CB Bobby Taylor learned how to contain Irvin. Aikman was starting to take sacks. The talent around them was slipping. Only Smith kept plowing.
Then, on October 10th, 1999, at 1:16 PM, in Veterans Stadium, The Triplets ceased to be. Irvin’s head got caught between Eagles safety Tim Hauck’s knee and the granite slab that Philadelphians jokingly called a playing surface. He lay on the field, motionless.
Eagles fans – some of them, a vocal minority of them – cheered.
Jay Mariotti re-christened Philly as “The City of Brotherly Loathe.” Most Eagles fans were appalled by what became a notorious incident. The local talk radio station was flooded with apologists the next day. Some said they cheered until they realized how hurt Irvin was. Some said they were mortified and would never return to a game.
But one fan, quickly cut off by the radio hosts (but quoted in the Inquirer by future radio personality Anthony Gargano), offered no apology. “The only thing that would have made me happier is if it would have been a coffin, not a stretcher, coming out.”
It was the ugliest incident ever in a city notorious for ugly fan incidents. It was reprehensible. But it demonstrated how deeply feelings ran. For some fans, The Triplets and the Cowboys weren’t sports rivals. They really were archenemies, bringers of misery and frustration and disappointment, emotions so strong that some Eagles fans – more than just a few – forgot their basic humanity and started acting like a bloodthirsty mob.
Irvin would never play again. Aikman would retire a year later. Smith – who would rush for 2,466 yards against the Eagles in his career – soldiered on and on, one of the few reminders of Super Bowl glory as the Cowboys strung together 5-11 seasons under forgettable coaches. In his last game against the Eagles, he carried the ball eight times for 30 yards in a 27-3 loss. It was sad: Triplet turned Lone Ranger on a team with no more use for legends.
Love Thine Enemy
They are up on the wall now in Texas Stadium, where they cannot hurt the Eagles anymore. Or perhaps they will smile down on Julius Jones and Roy Williams the way Roger Staubach and Tony Dorsett and Don Meredith smiled on them, invigorating the next generation of Cowboys to terrorize the NFL in general and the Eagles in particular.
Can green-bleeding Eagles fans like me finally look past the bitterness? Can we cheer Irvin’s brilliance in penance for once cheering his adversity? Can we praise Aikman as thoroughly as we once belittled him? Can we finally accept these players for who they are: Hall of Famers, All Time Greats, True Champions?
Honorable foes, worthy of respect and admiration?
If we cannot, then Eagles fans deserve everything that’s said about us, every cheap “snowballs at Santa Claus” crack that national writers and announcers throw at us. We went through too much with The Triplets. We witnessed their birth and their fall. Maybe they are Darth Vader, Lex Luthor, and The Joker to some, but without great villains, our heroes wouldn’t be very interesting.
Congratulations, gentlemen. It was a pleasure to root against you.
Gonzo
09-17-2005, 12:55 AM
Ugh got about 1/4 of the way through and gave up. Was good until then though.
Lotus
09-17-2005, 02:38 PM
Great read, Jerichoholic :y:
road doggy dogg
09-17-2005, 03:30 PM
I don't get that at all, how is that supposed to make anybody respect Eagles fans? Just repeating shit we already know; the Eagles suck, and they're huge dbags for cheering Irvin's injury. Get outta here.
VonErich Lives
09-17-2005, 06:02 PM
I don't get that at all, how is that supposed to make anybody respect Eagles fans? Just repeating shit we already know; the Eagles suck, and they're huge dbags for cheering Irvin's injury. Get outta here.
Yeah, they have some of the worst fans, remember when they threw snow balls at Santa Claus...
MoRcHeEbA
09-17-2005, 06:58 PM
lol, I remember after the third time they lost the NFC championship this guy was on TV and actually was crying cause of how bad the recievers were. Fucken Fag.
The Outlaw
09-17-2005, 07:46 PM
LOL crying
Jerichoholic
09-18-2005, 01:40 AM
RDD, I am a Dallas fan, I was just saying that that guy was OK. I still general think that eagles fans are scum.
#1-norm-fan
09-18-2005, 04:50 AM
Even Donavan McNabb hates Eagles fans.
I've got nothing to back that up... I get that feeling though.
#1-norm-fan
09-18-2005, 04:52 AM
I have heard him say more than once in interviews though that he prefers Syracuse fans over Philly fans. Strange that he doesn't atleast pussy-foot around that issue.
road doggy dogg
09-18-2005, 05:33 AM
If I was McNabb I'd hate Eagles fans too. They fucking booed him when he was drafted. They are seriously the biggest trash in sports.
:lol:
When they booed Michael Irvin's injury.
:lol:
At Herm Edwards looking like he wants to fight somebody when he does media days.
VonErich Lives
09-18-2005, 10:31 AM
:lol:
When they booed Michael Irvin's injury.
We needed confirmation you are an Idiot and this was it.
1) They cheer'd it.
2) The guy was carted off and at the time was parlyzed or had those symptoms, so they were cheering that a guy might never walk again.
Really, you're a complete idiot.
BCWWF
09-18-2005, 12:13 PM
No guys, that was really awesome. Or when the Phillies fans throw shit at the center fielder, thats pretty fuckign sweet too.
We needed confirmation you are an Idiot and this was it.
1) They cheer'd it.
2) The guy was carted off and at the time was parlyzed or had those symptoms, so they were cheering that a guy might never walk again.
Really, you're a complete idiot.
It was the classiest thing Philly fan has ever done.
Lotus
09-18-2005, 12:43 PM
Broncos fans would be a distant 2nd. Throwing snowballs at players and then trying to have the players arrested for responding? That was bullshit. As bad as Raiders fans can be, we never did shit like that. That's just gay.
BCWWF
09-18-2005, 01:21 PM
Vikings fans are probably some of the best in the NFL. Probably not the best, I mean you have to give it to the Packers fans who sit in the below zero weather and watch their team, but the Dome is always real loud and nothing obscene.
BCWWF
09-18-2005, 01:56 PM
So much for trading Moss making the Vikings better.
Just an example of today
1-10-MIN 20 (12:44) D.Culpepper sacked at MIN 10 for -10 yards (B.Robinson). FUMBLES (B.Robinson), RECOVERED by CIN-R.Geathers at MIN 10. R.Geathers to MIN 10 for no gain
(this one was given back because of a penalty, but still)
BCWWF
09-18-2005, 01:57 PM
Hey Bean, don't you miss the days of "Three Deep"? Cris Carter, Randy Moss, Jake Reed. Yawn.
BCWWF
09-18-2005, 02:18 PM
Well if there was any question that the NFC North is the weakest division in football, this proves it.
Detroit 6
Chicago 17
Any hope that there would be a decent team from this division is just wiped out
RoXer
09-18-2005, 02:26 PM
SIMINOU WITH THE EXTRA POINT
KingofOldSchool
09-18-2005, 02:55 PM
Manning is looking like Kyle Boller today.
BCWWF
09-18-2005, 03:00 PM
So can we stop talking up the Patriots yet?
Edge is having an incredible game right now. Thank god because Manning is playing horrible.
VonErich Lives
09-18-2005, 03:23 PM
So can we stop talking up the Patriots yet?
When they're down 3 points with 1.5 qtrs left?
Umm... No. :)
I don't remember which coach but they asked someone on Jax how thet stack up to Indy and the response was "We don't measure against Indy, we measure against NE, Indy has done the same as us, win nothing, NE is the champs".
The Pats looked pretty bad in that first half, bad throws, drops, stupid, stupid, stupid penalties. But, I knew this would be a tough game, so doesn't suprise me.
As for Harrison, I still love how a guy is "the dirtiest player in the league" then, he gets on your team and suddenly "he just plays hard" :roll: I'm a fan, but he's dirty, that was a stupid move on Davis and could have hurt him.
KingofOldSchool
09-18-2005, 03:30 PM
Hahahahah the Bears are OWNING the Lions.
Nervous Ferret
09-18-2005, 03:30 PM
:lol: @ Jags shutting down Peyton Manning
Nervous Ferret
09-18-2005, 03:31 PM
ugh wrong page, still funny either way.
But Panthers ar3e about to take a 10 point lead on the Pats, and T.O went bananas, again
:lol: @ Jags shutting down Peyton Manning
no doubt. They are playing great D. Indy is too. The deciding factor might be Edge in this one.
KingofOldSchool
09-18-2005, 03:34 PM
Mike Peterson made the best catch in the game.
Nervous Ferret
09-18-2005, 03:36 PM
No Excuses
Nervous Ferret
09-18-2005, 03:37 PM
No ExcusesColts score just as I type that :(
Are defense are gunna win this game.
Oh fuck leftwhich just took a horrible shot
I hope he's ok.
KingofOldSchool
09-18-2005, 03:42 PM
Damn The Colt's D-Line are becoming QB Killers.
Last week Boller, this week Leftwich.
DAMN.
KingofOldSchool
09-18-2005, 03:44 PM
I knew the Jags were going to push the Colts, because they've always played well against them but I didn't expect this low scoring of a game.
Both defensives should be feared now.
KingofOldSchool
09-18-2005, 03:46 PM
Whoops.
I told my co-worker to start Caulpepper in one of his fantasy leagues this week.
My bad.
BCWWF
09-18-2005, 03:54 PM
When they're down 3 points with 1.5 qtrs left?
Umm... No. :)
I don't remember which coach but they asked someone on Jax how thet stack up to Indy and the response was "We don't measure against Indy, we measure against NE, Indy has done the same as us, win nothing, NE is the champs".
The Pats looked pretty bad in that first half, bad throws, drops, stupid, stupid, stupid penalties. But, I knew this would be a tough game, so doesn't suprise me.
As for Harrison, I still love how a guy is "the dirtiest player in the league" then, he gets on your team and suddenly "he just plays hard" :roll: I'm a fan, but he's dirty, that was a stupid move on Davis and could have hurt him.
17-27 in the 4th. Bruschi doesn't hurt that much.
OssMan
09-18-2005, 03:56 PM
Joey Harrington 5 INTs LOL
road doggy dogg
09-18-2005, 04:04 PM
Where's the pass interference?
Hot finish though, ERNEST with the almost-game-winning catch
VonErich Lives
09-18-2005, 04:16 PM
17-27 in the 4th. Bruschi doesn't hurt that much.
No, his loss does hurt, but they've had losses before and they'll have them again.
That and the MLB's haven't played that bad, the offense turnovers cost this game, well, turnovers and stupid penalties.
The Pats looked bad today, no question about it, Carolina out played them.
VonErich Lives
09-18-2005, 04:17 PM
Oh fuck leftwhich just took a horrible shot
I hope he's ok.
Too bad it wasn't in Philly, then they could cheer and you could cheer them.
OssMan
09-18-2005, 04:21 PM
rofl, Corey Dillon smothered again.
BCWWF
09-18-2005, 04:22 PM
Carolina is our sole hope in the NFC. Philly has no shot at the Super Bowl, Atlanta probably not either.
The Icon of Elisim
09-18-2005, 04:38 PM
WHY THE FUCK AM I WATCHING CLEVELAND-GREEN BAY
ARGH
Mr. Monday Morning
09-18-2005, 04:40 PM
-Culpepper threw 5 picks as well
-Leftwich got hammered big time late on there
-Pittsburgh looked pretty awesome again (looking at the stats ticker anyway), throwing as well as running.
-Buffalo :nono:
OssMan
09-18-2005, 04:49 PM
lol what does Culpepper have, like 8 INTs this season
Mr. Monday Morning
09-18-2005, 04:56 PM
Yeah 8 in 2.
FearedSanctity
09-18-2005, 05:04 PM
Why is Randy Cross(I think) so anti-Denver?
Skippord
09-18-2005, 05:18 PM
Why is Randy Cross(I think) so anti-Denver?
Cause he is a douchebag
god dammit Bell is hurt now too
FearedSanctity
09-18-2005, 05:21 PM
I mean, I know Denver isn't doing that great right now but goddamn.
Even the guys on FOX made Philly/SanFran seem like it was close
FearedSanctity
09-18-2005, 05:23 PM
Seriously now, 3rd and 15, who the fuck calls for a 2 yard pass?
VonErich Lives
09-18-2005, 05:36 PM
Cause he is a douchebag
god dammit Bell is hurt now too
Ron Dayne baaaaby!
Wonder if they'll resign Claurett...
BCWWF
09-18-2005, 05:39 PM
I thought it was 7 int? Dunno, don't care right now either
FearedSanctity
09-18-2005, 05:45 PM
Ron Dayne baaaaby!
Wonder if they'll resign Claurett...
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they brought in Leaf at this point
Apparently Denver is considering Baltimore OC Fassel for next year though. After the last couple years of Shanahan's shit, I'll take ANYONE else
FearedSanctity
09-18-2005, 05:52 PM
CHAMP WITH THE PICK FOR A TD :love: :love: :love:
Crimson
09-18-2005, 06:13 PM
Steelers-Pats next week...good game. Damn Ravens are 0-2 im surprised about that...and Palmer looks like gold.
Mr. Monday Morning
09-18-2005, 06:25 PM
Jamal Lewis had like 9 yards rushing or something stupid. Their O-line really isn't doing a great job.
KingofOldSchool
09-18-2005, 06:29 PM
WOW The Packers are sucking shit.
If Brett is sticking around to win, he's probably mightly disappointed right now.
Y2Ant
09-18-2005, 06:29 PM
Both defensives should be feared now.
FEAR THE "D"
I give up on the fucking vikings already, too good on paper and just shitty when it comes down to it :mad:
VonErich Lives
09-18-2005, 06:48 PM
Steelers-Pats next week...good game. .
Yep, Steelers have a 16 game regular season winning streak.
Dunno, the more I digest todays loss, I don't like it but I'm not worried. I don't see them having that many penalties every game and that was a huge factor today, "mistakes" which the Pats don't do often.
FearedSanctity
09-18-2005, 06:51 PM
LOL at Denver CONSTANTLY fucking themselves over
TD pass called back AND a punt return TD called back for too many men on the field, Denver players came on the field too early celebrating :|
Mr. Monday Morning
09-18-2005, 07:14 PM
Rams might just have shot themselves in the foot
Loose Cannon
09-18-2005, 07:24 PM
WOOOOO, big win today. All even in the AFC East now.
Joey Slugs
09-18-2005, 07:34 PM
Well if there was any question that the NFC North is the weakest division in football, this proves it.
Detroit 6
Chicago 17
Any hope that there would be a decent team from this division is just wiped out
the bears have a good team. offense showed up good today, and defense is one of (if not the) best in the league.
my team WILL suprise.
OssMan
09-18-2005, 07:49 PM
BEARS
BCWWF
09-18-2005, 07:50 PM
I will say the Bears aren't horrible. They have some good skills players in Benson, Mushin, Gage etc. and it'd be cool if Orton came through. Then when you have Urlacher on your defense it will never be too bad. My point was just that last week the Lions blew away the Packers, and both teams were supposed to be at lease decent this year, and now this week the Bears, who were pretty much a consensus No. 4 in the NFC North blow out the Lions.
SammyG
09-18-2005, 08:04 PM
WHOOOO! RAMS WIN! FUCK U KURT! 10 second run off for the penalty with 7 seconds left, unbelievable, we win!
Lotus
09-18-2005, 08:15 PM
Bears over Lions. This sunday. You heard it here first kids.
I shall rep you for this post. Positively, of course.
Oh, and also, Falcons would have won that game if Vick didn't get hurt. He would have taken off on 3rd and 13. But Seahawks aren't that bad either. They should win the division.
Raiders/Chiefs in 18 minutes.
Lotus
09-18-2005, 08:16 PM
Uh, I must spread more rep around before giving it to you again Seventy. So hold your horses.
LoDownM
09-18-2005, 08:25 PM
I'm calling it now, after the Chiefs/Raiders game, Oak 0-2 KC 2-0.
We are going atleast 9-0 this year, last year was our normal "Off year" aftre a good year.
Rain Man
09-18-2005, 08:39 PM
Fuck all you Eagle and philly fan haters your all pricks
Rain Man
09-18-2005, 08:43 PM
Oakland has the trashiest fans
LoDownM
09-18-2005, 08:47 PM
Din't worry Rain, i'll get my chance to trash talk yourteam when we play at Arrowhead in a 2 weeks :)
Gonzo
09-18-2005, 08:57 PM
Rain Man you're a class A shithead.
Joey Slugs
09-18-2005, 09:00 PM
Uh, I must spread more rep around before giving it to you again Seventy. So hold your horses.
thank you sir. i shall be waiting.
LOL, hey LoDown, when was the last time the Chorfs won at Invesco?
LoDownM
09-18-2005, 09:11 PM
Next week ;)
Only if your D doesn't have its yearly meltdown in Denver
Skippord
09-18-2005, 09:40 PM
LOL at Denver CONSTANTLY fucking themselves over
TD pass called back AND a punt return TD called back for too many men on the field, Denver players came on the field too early celebrating :|
We still pulled it off though
Nervous Ferret
09-18-2005, 10:19 PM
JETS sit atop the AFC East :lol: :(
el fregadero
09-18-2005, 10:49 PM
Well done, RP, it just means we win the second game later on this season.
Loose Cannon
09-18-2005, 10:52 PM
^you lose next week.
el fregadero
09-18-2005, 10:58 PM
Not if Pennington is still their quarterback.
Nervous Ferret
09-18-2005, 10:59 PM
yeah he is the worst QB in the NFL :'(
el fregadero
09-18-2005, 11:00 PM
He is? I was j/k. Good to see you support your team though.
Nervous Ferret
09-18-2005, 11:07 PM
he is. I love him to death, he makes everyone around him play better, but in terms of skill at the QB position, he is one of the worst. I exxagerated by saying the worst, but hes down there. He floats everything on mid ranged passes, he tries to put to much "touch" into the ball, when if he would just buck up and throw it he'd have more success. On shorter passes he throws at usually the running backs feet, and his arm strength isn't nearly enough to throw anything accurate over 3o yards. He panics under pressure, and if the Jets didn't have a top 5 O-line...I don't know where he'd be.
BCWWF
09-18-2005, 11:27 PM
I am going to agree with last weeks ESPN power rankings, Indianapolis is the team to beat right now. They started them out against two awesome defenses, and they worked through them. Thats a sign of a great offense, but what really did it for me was that the defense held up and didn't allow anything really. Granted they aren't the two best offenses in the league by any means, but last year it may have been a very different story.
el fregadero
09-19-2005, 02:06 AM
Yeah, the Colts getting a good D is not good news.
The Outlaw
09-19-2005, 03:17 AM
COLTS :love:
PACK :'(
The NFC North is ridiculous right now.
My Thoughts:
Just one right now and what i am about to say, I truely mean this . I dont even know if i can describe this thought good enough to even post it, but i'm going to.
Byron Leftwhich almost made me cry today. This guy wears his sack outside of his pants. He is all balls. I have never seen a QB in my life time take such a beating and just not go away . That hit he took from behind was completely his fault. He should have just fell on the ball, but he was trying to make something happen and he got corkscrewed. To even get back into the game after that hit was amazing. I was for sure his leg was broke. When we had to punt the ball back, I thought it was over. I thought Gerrard was coming out and we would murder him. When Leftwhich ran out on the field. I fucking lost it. I could not believe this kid was still standing. I had know idea i could possibly feel as much emotion as i did for an opposing teams player, as i did for Byron Leftwhich at that point.... Then Dwight Freeney flat out crushed him and he still completed the pass. Then proceeded to get up and hobble down the field. It seriously looked like he had no clue where he was and that lineman who picked him up just pretty much told him to run straight. At this point my hand is over my mouth and i'm seriously touched by what i was seeing. Not touched in a sad way. Touched , because of how hard this guy was playing . How much heart he had. He would not stay down. He was getting crushed. Ungodly hits and he still kept getting up. I was honored to watch this opponent play my team. If i had to pick anyone other then Peyton Manning to QB my team. Give me Leftwhich all day any day. If he's gunna play that hard for me on the second week of the season. He's my guy.
Leftwhich earned so much respect from me today. To put this in perspective. People here in Indiana, on radio shows and tv and just the word on the street alone, cant stop talking about Byron Leftwhich's performance. I mean i was that impressed.
Nervous Ferret
09-19-2005, 03:26 AM
We've known he was tough, was it Leftwhich that had hid O-line carry him down the field in college, when he had a broken ankle? I think it was.
We've known he was tough, was it Leftwhich that had hid O-line carry him down the field in college, when he had a broken ankle? I think it was.
Yes it was. That was legendary.
el fregadero
09-19-2005, 03:33 AM
Leftwich is a tough mamajamma. The doggone O-Line is gonna get him killed.
Leftwich is a tough mamajamma. The doggone O-Line is gonna get him killed.
I think Gerrard is gunna get a ton of playing time this year.
My god Leftwhich is the man.
That game was just amazing.
el fregadero
09-19-2005, 03:39 AM
Garrard is pretty tight though. More important issue is Donavin Darius and what will happen with his leg.
Denver might just be the most retarded team ever. I love how Mike Shananigans called it a " gutsy victory". At this point i think a gutsy victory would be Denver actually not being retarded in a game.
VonErich Lives
09-19-2005, 03:52 AM
Denver might just be the most retarded team ever. I love how Mike Shananigans called it a " gutsy victory". At this point i think a gutsy victory would be Denver actually not being retarded in a game.
More like SD proving they were a "paper champ" last year.
Best stat I heard this year was SD was 10-0 vs. bad teams and 2-4 vs good teams.
Gee, and I thought the 1st round loss was just because Shotty always screws up in the playoffs.
Supreme Olajuwon
09-19-2005, 12:45 PM
The Vikings loss yesterday was sooooooooo Culpepper's fault it wasn't even funny. He got protection, but he never looked around the field. He missed so many wide open guys who had clear paths to touchdowns. Their defense didn't do much to help but still, only 1 of Culpepper's INTs were because of the Bengals D.
The Outlaw
09-19-2005, 01:28 PM
LOL 5 INT for Pepp? :|
VonErich Lives
09-19-2005, 02:31 PM
The Vikings loss yesterday was sooooooooo Culpepper's fault it wasn't even funny. He got protection, but he never looked around the field. He missed so many wide open guys who had clear paths to touchdowns. Their defense didn't do much to help but still, only 1 of Culpepper's INTs were because of the Bengals D.
Before the game, Pep was 3rd all time in QB rating (over 1,500 attempts).
Now he's 5th,
Nervous Ferret
09-19-2005, 02:35 PM
Curtis is injured :(
BCWWF
09-19-2005, 03:30 PM
Even as horrible as they have been in the first two weeks, the Vikings have too much talent to not win the NFC North. Maybe it will be 8-8, but thats just how bad the other teams are.
Mr. Monday Morning
09-19-2005, 04:31 PM
The Texans fired their OC :$
road doggy dogg
09-19-2005, 08:19 PM
I hope the Saints go like 4-12 this season so everybody shuts the fuck up about this hurricane already. I love how everyone is like "It's great that they can play football and just forget about the tragedy". You know, every 3 minutes. Godddddddd hurricane Katrina is the worst thing to happen to the NFL
Rain Man
09-19-2005, 08:21 PM
I just want the Giants to loose cause I hate them..(yeah Gonzo you heard me)
The Outlaw
09-19-2005, 08:26 PM
I hope the Saints go like 4-12 this season so everybody shuts the fuck up about this hurricane already. I love how everyone is like "It's great that they can play football and just forget about the tragedy". You know, every 3 minutes. Godddddddd hurricane Katrina is the worst thing to happen to the NFL
Come visit me or Krispy. :)
road doggy dogg
09-19-2005, 08:31 PM
why
BCWWF
09-19-2005, 10:56 PM
He lives in Alabama.
Gonzo
09-19-2005, 11:06 PM
I just want the Giants to loose cause I hate them..(yeah Gonzo you heard me)
Suck my dick. :yes:
OssMan
09-19-2005, 11:21 PM
NY GIANTS
Evil Vito
09-19-2005, 11:34 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Giants</font> :love:
el fregadero
09-20-2005, 12:08 AM
Seriously though, the Saints don't care about Katrina. They aren't playing these games for the people who were affected, it just makes good PR.
RoXer
09-20-2005, 12:31 AM
Redskins are gay
I am literally throwing up right now.
JESUS CHRIST HOW COULD THEY BLOW THAT GAME.
Now they're probably going to pull a Seahawks and be 5-11 for another fucking year.
MoRcHeEbA
09-20-2005, 12:48 AM
should re-sign Vinny :shifty:
#1-norm-fan
09-20-2005, 01:27 AM
Fucking Roy Williams. I always though he was overrated. Everyone likes him but the fucker never makes any plays really. I never understood why people like him. I know the 2nd TD wasn't COMPLETELY his fault but he was mainly involved in both TDs and I hate him.
That hatred may go away as soon as next week. A hatred that will always eat away at my stomache is my insane, vomit-inducing hatred of Terry Glenn. RUN YOUR GODDAMN ROUTE PAST THE MARKERS ON 4TH DOWN YOU STUPID SHIT! Could you not find the little yellow line so you just stopped at a random spot on the field? Damn you to hell!!! :mad:
Basically I blame Roy Williams and Aaron Glenn for the loss (shouldn't have come down to the 4th down play). I just have more reason to hate Terry Glenn now though. Fuck his 6 catches for 120 yards... If Dallas hadn't been watching videos from the 1960's and decided it was time to pull out a fucking Flea-Flicker, you would NOT have burned Sean Taylor so suck it, woman.
Two fucking plays. Washington has two plays all night and wins the game. Ridiculous. Next week can't come soon enough. I don't want to see a simple win over San Francisco, This needs to be an ass-beating of epic proportions. I am pissed. Joe Gibbs smells. That is all.
#1-norm-fan
09-20-2005, 01:33 AM
Also, fuck Monday Night Football. Something crazy like this happens damn near every week. It's usually Dallas, so goot times. (Some years back against Philly when the Eagles were going for the game winning field goal from the 2-yard line and they botched the snap and didn't get it. Against the Giants two years ago when they fell behind w/ 7 seconds left and came back to win. Against Seattle last year when they were down by 10 w/ under 2 minutes to go and came back to win.) It used to be cool... fuck Monday Night Football now. :mad: :mad:
GOD DAMMIT!!!! The last TD to Moss, he didn't even run a mother-fucking route!!!! They just told him to run right between the two dipshit DBs and then at some point, look up for a football.
LOL @ Redskin players dumping Gatorade on Gibbs. It's not the Super Bowl folks
No way Mark Brunell is that good! Is he that good?
Gonzo
09-20-2005, 07:59 AM
I'm glad Washington came back, kinda wanted them to win.
Supreme Olajuwon
09-20-2005, 08:55 AM
Lemar Marshall baby
Mr. Monday Morning
09-20-2005, 10:34 AM
Well that fucked my pick em 8 ways from Sunday.
road doggy dogg
09-20-2005, 10:45 AM
Sigh.... Falcons signed Chris Cash. Bet the Lions really wish they didn't release him now, after Bryant's injury.
Crimson
09-20-2005, 12:14 PM
Fuckin bitchass Cowboys. Hopefully this doesn't send them downhill. Now on ESPN they are saying shit like 'Oh wow, look at Brunell's turnaround..he's making a comeback, what a move by Gibbs!!" Fuckin idiots, he played like shit for 3 1/2 qts except for 2 plays,and all of a sudden he's god.
Bottom line though I still think Cowboys will finish above the 'Skins...we'll get em in DC.
Y2Ant
09-20-2005, 12:56 PM
don't badmouth Terry Glenn you fucker :mad: :mad: :mad:
Parcells was 77-0 when his team had a 13+ point lead in the 4th quarter, now he's 77-1 LOL
Supreme Olajuwon
09-20-2005, 01:14 PM
yeah but he's still undefeated when he has a 14+ point lead
MoRcHeEbA
09-20-2005, 01:37 PM
Remember when Roy Williams broke TO's leg :lol:
The Outlaw
09-20-2005, 02:19 PM
Seriously though, the Saints don't care about Katrina. They aren't playing these games for the people who were affected, it just makes good PR.
I can't speak for all of them, but I know Joe Horn lost basically everything so I'm sure he's not just doing this for "PR".
Remember when Roy Williams broke TO's leg :lol:
Remember when VEL got all pissy about me laughing about injuries and then didnt have the balls to say anything to you because of your post count.:lol:
~ Insert Cheeba's random dick sucking comment here ~
Nervous Ferret
09-20-2005, 02:52 PM
NOT AS GOOD AS PEYTON MANNING
NOT AS GOOD AS PEYTON MANNING
ofcourse not
Mr. Monday Morning
09-20-2005, 03:01 PM
Remember when VEL got all pissy about me laughing about injuries and then didnt have the balls to say anything to you because of your post count.:lol:
~ Insert Cheeba's random dick sucking comment here ~
Yeah see the slight difference here is that was more a burn on Roy Williams, not cheering for an injury.
Also broken leg < career-ending injury, but that's beside the point.
Maybe you are reading the wrong thing....
I'll let you figure it out.
BCWWF
09-20-2005, 03:20 PM
I also noticed the hypocracy going on here. Philadelphia fans cheering injury = bad. Morcheeba cheering Philadelphia player injury = good. :yes:
VonErich Lives
09-20-2005, 03:39 PM
Remember when VEL got all pissy about me laughing about injuries and then didnt have the balls to say anything to you because of your post count.:lol:
~ Insert Cheeba's random dick sucking comment here ~
Remember when RP logged in 100 times a day and got pissy that not everyone reads the forum as much as him.
Remember when RP was given 2 articles of facts why Brady was/is better then Manning, yet never responded.
Remember when RP cried about how Manning has to do it all and the Colts never have a defense, but this year is different even though every year they try and upgrade their defense and every year them lose because the offense get's shut down, not that the defense can't stop anyone.
Remember when VEL decided to just add RP to the ignore list till after the season... (Nah, RP's a funny little bitch, gives me a good laugh) :)
Mr. Monday Morning
09-20-2005, 03:42 PM
Yeah I dunno sometimes when people use emoticons like :lol: they are being sarcastic or ironic or you know maybe not 100% completely serious.
Plus Roy Williams pretty much got completely toasted by Santana Moss and Mark Brunell, that most deadly of duos.
VonErich Lives
09-20-2005, 03:43 PM
don't badmouth Terry Glenn you fucker :mad: :mad: :mad:
Yeah, leave "HER" alone...
Classic Parcell quotes...
When asked about Glenn during pre-season, refering to him as "She".
Remember when Parcells didn't want to draft Glenn in the first place and was over ruled by Bobby Grier and Bob Kraft.
Remember when Glenn got suspended by the Pats and they still won the superbowl.
Remember my favorite Glenn quote on a local TV show while under suspension and asked about being a member of the Patriots.
"I did play play for the Patriots, D I D I D"
I think he was trying to use "Did" in the past tence... gotta love that Big 10 education!
Supreme Olajuwon
09-20-2005, 03:47 PM
GO BUCKS
VonErich Lives
09-20-2005, 03:49 PM
Remember when Roy Williams broke TO's leg :lol:
I also noticed the hypocracy going on here. Philadelphia fans cheering injury = bad. Morcheeba cheering Philadelphia player injury = good. :yes:
Ok, sorry to upset RP, but this was the first I saw this... I know, I'll have to read more often next time.
BCWWF has a point, however I didn't see anyone posting saying "good one cheebs" or "yeah, TO getting injured, that was great".
MMM does have a point over a broken leg, being different then someone possible paralyzed, and it's possible she was taking a shot at Williams "The only thing he's rememberd for", but I wouldn't read that way, reads more like she's laughing at him breaking TO's leg... which we know where I stand on that.
Of couse, she could be like RP now and keep posting making it clear he was in favor of the injury "It was the classiest thing the Philly fans have ever done".
Really RP, I never hated the Colts and as I've said before I'd like to see Manning not be another Marino, but the more you post like an ass, the more I root for them to win nothing so you can cry in your pillow some more.
road doggy dogg
09-20-2005, 04:14 PM
You guys are all retarded.
Gonzo
09-20-2005, 05:05 PM
I know this has just strayed so far away from discussion and become a constant argument and zing fest.
Mr. Monday Morning
09-20-2005, 05:07 PM
Kinda like the Eagles then :lol:
The Outlaw
09-20-2005, 05:46 PM
No talk about the Saints being considered the "home" team last night? Seems like the NFL is getting drilled for the move.
OssMan
09-20-2005, 05:50 PM
I like how ESPN is making the Giants seem like bad guys for playing at home.
MoRcHeEbA
09-20-2005, 06:07 PM
im with RDD on this one.
Gonzo
09-20-2005, 07:19 PM
I like how ESPN is making the Giants seem like bad guys for playing at home.
Bad to the bone. :cool:
BCWWF
09-20-2005, 08:07 PM
RDD is right, but for the sake of continuing on I just think its pretty lame for people to hate on Rectal for poking fun at an injury and then go out and do it yourself.
I see a young BCWWF in Mr. Pertruder, and I have to protect him even in the silliest debocales.
Nervous Ferret
09-20-2005, 08:08 PM
NOT AS BAD AS PEYTON MANNING
The Outlaw
09-20-2005, 09:11 PM
I like how ESPN is making the Giants seem like bad guys for playing at home.
What show have you been watching? Every show I've seen on ESPN are making the NFL FO the bad guys, and rightly so.
Gonzo
09-20-2005, 09:13 PM
What is the NFL FO?
BCWWF
09-20-2005, 10:24 PM
Front Office maybe?
Gonzo
09-20-2005, 10:59 PM
yeah sounds good to me.
Innovator
09-20-2005, 11:33 PM
Patriots won Super Bowl
Patriots lost to Carolina
Carolina lost to the Saints
The Saints lost to the New York F'n Giants
The Giants are the best team in the NFL
Nervous Ferret
09-20-2005, 11:35 PM
...
#1-norm-fan
09-20-2005, 11:45 PM
Remember when Roy Williams broke TO's leg :lol:
lol. YES. I fucking love Roy Williams.:love:
el fregadero
09-21-2005, 12:14 AM
I can't speak for all of them, but I know Joe Horn lost basically everything so I'm sure he's not just doing this for "PR".
Good point. He probably can't afford to buy another house and six cars.
el fregadero
09-21-2005, 12:51 AM
Garrard is pretty tight though. More important issue is Donavin Darius and what will happen with his leg.
Out for the season. :wavesad: Deke Cooper has potential though.
Remember when RP logged in 100 times a day and got pissy that not everyone reads the forum as much as him.
Remember when RP was given 2 articles of facts why Brady was/is better then Manning, yet never responded.
Remember when RP cried about how Manning has to do it all and the Colts never have a defense, but this year is different even though every year they try and upgrade their defense and every year them lose because the offense get's shut down, not that the defense can't stop anyone.
Remember when VEL decided to just add RP to the ignore list till after the season... (Nah, RP's a funny little bitch, gives me a good laugh) :)
Pissy? I was just pointing out the obvious.
Brady is better then Manning ? :lol: Why , because he has a superbowl ring? I guess Trent Dilfer is better then Peyton Manning. What argument are you gunna use when Manning wins a ring? Obviously it wont be stats or records or just flat out ability , because i got news for you. Its prett obvious that Manning wins in those catagories. The only people that argue's this live in New England or hopped the bandwagon 2 years ago. Oh and before you start going on and on about how many rings Brady has compared to Manning, answer me this. What the fuck does rings have anything to do with who is the better QB? Last time i checked superbowl rings were won by "teams" not one player. Brady's team has clearly been better. So please, try to argue something else then rings. Because the ring argument is played out and will be non existent once Manning does win the ring.
You should add me to the ignore list. I'll be there after November 7th and i'll remaing there through the end of training camp next season, when we begin our title defense.
VonErich Lives
09-21-2005, 03:34 PM
RP =
Here you go again, just the 2nd one, the first seems to be offline, but there is another info.
http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=261&Category=7
The funny thing is, I always thought Manning as a better skilled QB, but they give a ton of facts, such as the Colts offense only avg 10ppg in 5 playoff losses.
Such as them being close in QB rating.
Such as Manning being surrounded by the better offense.
The list goes on, have a good read, it's not just rings, it's big games, it's wins, it's scoring outside and inside a dome.
But whatever, you can stay blind if you wish.
Gonzo
09-21-2005, 03:36 PM
For the love of God, VEL and RP:
SHUT THE FUCK UP. Seriously just go make a Colts/Patriots thread and take it there. :|
Joey Slugs
09-21-2005, 03:48 PM
Why is this a Colts/Pats thread now? I have never seen so many wagon boys in my life. There are 30 other teams we all can be talking about. Like me... I'm a lifelong Bears fan, win or lose. I will never root for another team, and I will be talking about Da Bears all fucking year long.
I just don't see why the Colts & Pats should of all football. Eh, what do I know? I AM a Bears fan.
So.....
Going out on a limb again.
But here ya go.....
Bears over Bengals. Take it.
Gonzo
09-21-2005, 03:52 PM
That may be pushing it. We'll see.
Mr. Monday Morning
09-21-2005, 04:58 PM
That's pushing it over a ravine into the gulf of improbability. No disrespect to the Bears cause they have the potential to pull at least one shock this year but I don't see it happening against Cincy the way they've started.
Here's the fixtures btw for ease of reference:
Sunday, Sep. 25
Atlanta at Buffalo
Carolina at Miami
Cincinnati at Chicago
Cleveland at Indianapolis
Jacksonville at N.Y. Jets
New Orleans at Minnesota
Oakland at Philadelphia
Tampa Bay at Green Bay
Tennessee at St. Louis
Arizona at Seattle
Dallas at San Francisco
New England at Pittsburgh
N.Y. Giants at San Diego
Monday, Sep. 26
Kansas City at Denver
Oakland-Philly and Pittsburgh-NE are obviously the standouts. I'll be interested to see what the Giants do in San Diego though, might give an indication of whether they're for real this year. Having said that Chargers have started pretty bad so who knows :-\
VonErich Lives
09-21-2005, 05:09 PM
Why is this a Colts/Pats thread now? I have never seen so many wagon boys in my life.
I'm a lifelong Bears fan, win or lose. I will never root for another team, and I will be talking about Da Bears all fucking year long.
So, it's ok for you to be a fan of your team, but I can't be a Pats fan and RP can't be a Colts fan?
Grew up here, always been a Pats fan, my favorite sport and team. Watched them go 1-15, watched them blow picks and personal, blew money to get great seats to some big games, threw big parties for others, even have gone to some of the pre-season player dinners.
So, don't give me this "band waggon" crap.
That aside, yes, when a team wins the team becomes more popular, when they go to a championship game they are seen on a world screen.
Look at the Celts/Lakers of the 80's or Bulls of the 90's. Look at the Yankees, of 49'ers, Cowboys, Redskins in the 80's/90's.
How about the Red Wings?
You have people wearing jerseys of players that they wouldn't know if the player was standing in front of them.
But to assume because I'm posting about the Pats I'm a "Band waggoner" is crap, same goes for RP.
Want to see more about the Bears, Giants, Begles, Seahawks, Rams, etc... then POST MORE ABOUT THEM!
OssMan
09-21-2005, 05:15 PM
remember how the Giants started last year :(
BCWWF
09-21-2005, 05:53 PM
Its kind of rediculous to say Manning doesn't match up based on last years playoff meeting. The Colts are a passing team, they set numerous records by having a great passing offense all season. You understand that a passing team is at a disadvantage when they are playing in 10 degree weather with a blizzard going on, not to mention a good defense added onto that. It wasn't convievably possible for the Colts to win last year, and Manning's performance had everything to do with the weather. If it was in normal conditions it would have been a completely different game. Just because he didn't win in those conditions doesn't mean he doesn't match up.
road doggy dogg
09-21-2005, 06:59 PM
K any future posts about the Colts or Pats (unless they're posted by Stima, or someone making fun of either team) is gonna be editted into something involving the poster's (likely miniscule) cock
VonErich Lives
09-21-2005, 07:31 PM
Without this forum and RPG's I would have no life, well actually I do have no life, but I can act like I'm a real man by editing people's post on a forum. Hey, remember the time, something happened to Testgal and I responded by having a hissy fit and yelling at all the female posters. Yeah, I was a real man that night, or at least that's what I keep telling my pillow to call me as I hump it.
(Sometimes when dealing with immaturity its best just to have fun and go down to their level)
VonErich Lives
09-21-2005, 07:37 PM
Without this forum and RPG's I would have no life, well actually I do have no life, but I can act like I'm a real man by editing people's post on a forum. Hey, remember the time, something happened to Testgal and I responded by having a hissy fit and yelling at all the female posters. Yeah, I was a real man that night, or at least that's what I keep telling my pillow to call me as I hump it.
(Sometimes when dealing with immaturity its best just to have fun and go down to their level)
RoXer
09-21-2005, 07:55 PM
JOEY ROXER ROX TEH TINY P33N
BCWWF
09-21-2005, 08:17 PM
MY PENIS, IT IS SMALL
Gonzo
09-21-2005, 08:24 PM
PEYTON MANNING WOULD SUCK ON MY PENIS IF IT WASN'T SO SMALL
BCWWF
09-21-2005, 08:36 PM
GO GO GO OLE OLE OLE
Gonzo
09-21-2005, 08:52 PM
YIANNI'S PENI > MINE
PS MY PENIS? IT IS SMALLER THAN ATOMS
VonErich Lives
09-22-2005, 12:15 PM
Without this forum and RPG's I would have no life, well actually I do have no life, but I can act like I'm a real man by editing people's post on a forum. Hey, remember the time, something happened to Testgal and I responded by having a hissy fit and yelling at all the female posters. Yeah, I was a real man that night, or at least that's what I keep telling my pillow to call me as I hump it.
(Sometimes when dealing with immaturity its best just to have fun and go down to their level)
MoRcHeEbA
09-22-2005, 01:22 PM
GO PANTHERS
THE ICON OF ELISIM REPLIED AFTER ME
The Icon of Elisim
09-22-2005, 03:25 PM
Colts 38 - Chiefs 31 is hardly a blow out. BTW Denver sucks
THE ICON OF ELISIM REPLIED PRIOR TO THIS REPLY
DaveWadding
09-22-2005, 05:41 PM
Want to see more about the [...] Rams, etc... then POST MORE ABOUT THEM!
Please don't encourage that. Consider that all the Rams fans here besides me (SammyG, Splaya, Savior etc.) are a) retarded and b) shitty posters. So they make me look even worse :'(
OssMan
09-22-2005, 05:48 PM
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/9766/rams5ww.jpg
VonErich Lives
09-22-2005, 06:03 PM
Without this forum and RPG's I would have no life, well actually I do have no life, but I can act like I'm a real man by editing people's post on a forum. Hey, remember the time, something happened to Testgal and I responded by having a hissy fit and yelling at all the female posters. Yeah, I was a real man that night, or at least that's what I keep telling my pillow to call me as I hump it.
(Sometimes when dealing with immaturity its best just to have fun and go down to their level)
VonErich Lives
09-22-2005, 06:06 PM
Without this forum and RPG's I would have no life, well actually I do have no life, but I can act like I'm a real man by editing people's post on a forum. Hey, remember the time, something happened to Testgal and I responded by having a hissy fit and yelling at all the female posters. Yeah, I was a real man that night, or at least that's what I keep telling my pillow to call me as I hump it.
(Sometimes when dealing with immaturity its best just to have fun and go down to their level)
Gonzo
09-22-2005, 07:13 PM
NOBODY GIVES A SHIT.
VonErich Lives
09-22-2005, 10:38 PM
Without this forum and RPG's I would have no life, well actually I do have no life, but I can act like I'm a real man by editing people's post on a forum. Hey, remember the time, something happened to Testgal and I responded by having a hissy fit and yelling at all the female posters. Yeah, I was a real man that night, or at least that's what I keep telling my pillow to call me as I hump it.
(Sometimes when dealing with immaturity its best just to have fun and go down to their level)
SUPREME'S NEXT POST > THE COLTS
Supreme Olajuwon
09-23-2005, 12:58 PM
Let's just agree to disagree and say that Carson Palmer is the best QB in the NFL.
Y2Ant
09-23-2005, 01:38 PM
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/9766/rams5ww.jpg
lol
your face would look funnier in a pic like that though
Let's just agree to disagree and say that Carson Palmer is the best QB in the NFL.
done.:yes:
The Outlaw
09-23-2005, 04:03 PM
Let's just agree to disagree and say that Carson Palmer is the best QB in the NFL.
:cool:
road doggy dogg
09-23-2005, 04:31 PM
Nice, some football talk after all that cock talk. Palmer is "aight"
I was thinking about something today.
Do you think Marshall Faulk is a Hall of Fame canidate if he's never named a starter for a NFL team again?
( I personally think he's still a great running back )
I was thinking about something today.
Do you think Marshall Faulk is a Hall of Fame canidate if he's never named a starter for a NFL team again?
( I personally think he's still a great running back )
Of course.
VonErich Lives
09-23-2005, 10:48 PM
Nice, some football talk after all that cock talk. Palmer is "aight"
Real mature, don't you have an RPG to be playing?
el fregadero
09-24-2005, 01:14 AM
No, a MMORPG.
BCWWF
09-24-2005, 02:29 AM
Why would Marshall have to start again to be a candidate? He's like 33
Faulks names just doesnt seem synonmous with Hall of Fame. I'm not sure.
Supreme's next post > every single post you've ever made.
road doggy dogg
09-24-2005, 04:44 AM
I don't see how him being a starter really affects his HoF ambitions? I mean, he's already pretty much proven himself, he could easily just retire now (or, what most people expected, whine about Jackson being the #1 and request a trade), but he hasn't... I think that if he continued backing up Jackson for like 3 more seasons, or just retired now, or did start somewhere else, he'd be a pretty good HoF candidate regardless
road doggy dogg
09-24-2005, 04:45 AM
Without this forum and RPG's I would have no life, well actually I do have no life, but I can act like I'm a real man by editing people's post on a forum. Hey, remember the time, something happened to Testgal and I responded by having a hissy fit and yelling at all the female posters. Yeah, I was a real man that night, or at least that's what I keep telling my pillow to call me as I hump it.
VonErich Lives
09-24-2005, 02:57 PM
Faulks names just doesnt seem synonmous with Hall of Fame. I'm not sure.
As of the start of the '05 season is was 12th all time rushing yds.
Of the 11 in front of him, 2 are active (Martin & Bettis), 1 isn't eligible for the HOF yet (Smith) and one I'm pretty sure is, but hasn't been voted it (Thurman Thomas). The others are all in the HOF.
He's 752yds from 6th, which if he sticks around as a backup for 2-3 years he could probably do. If not, he'll still be top 10 by years end.
He's also in the top 20 (19) for Receptions.
Will probably move up a few spots this year.
So yeah, the combo gets him in.
Maybe eventually he's in. Depending on who's set to go in with him, I doubt he's first ballot.
I think he needs a couple of more very nice years to be a first ballot HoF. I could be wrong. I think it really depends on the impression he leaves when he finally leaves. Right now i dont heae anyone saying Faulk= HOF. No one has really talked about it. Maybe they think its a sure thing and they dont have to talka bout it ? Its definetly gunna be a future discussion . He's got one ring. He really only dominated the league maybe 3 years. He's got top 15 career stats. I just dont think of Marshall Faulk as a surefire hall of famer.
VonErich Lives
09-24-2005, 09:17 PM
First Ballot, the top 10 rushing and top 20 rec combined does it for him.
Nervous Ferret
09-24-2005, 09:21 PM
Yeah I agree, Marshalls numbers show it all.
You ready for this freg?
FearedSanctity
09-25-2005, 12:30 AM
Here's another question.
Given what he accomplished, do you think Terrell Davis should be inducted even though he didn't get to play long?
el fregadero
09-25-2005, 12:55 AM
Faulk is definitely in first ballot; Yes, I'm ready, Ferret; Davis will not make the Hall of Fame.
FearedSanctity
09-25-2005, 01:28 AM
I think he should, but he probably won't. Atleast not for a while.
I remember a few years ago ESPN or something had asked the same thing and talked about how he had accomplished more than some of the RBs in the Hall already
VonErich Lives
09-25-2005, 06:41 AM
That's a tough call, he might make it due to them factoring injuries.
If you take his first 4yrs total the yds, avg is out he has 1,603yds/year
So, over a 10 year career he'd have around 16,030yds. Of course everyone misses a few games, and his stats might have dropped, although anyone who runs in Denever goes over 1,000yds w/o blinking so I can't think there would be a huge drop.
So, if healthy, he'd probably be 3rd possible even second all-time rushing.
VonErich Lives
09-25-2005, 06:48 AM
Here's a few more to think about (if some just aren't eligible yet, let me know, but I think everyone I'm listing is).
Andre Reed 4th all-time Receptions (16yrs)
Art Monk 5th all-time recepetions (16yrs)
Irving Fryar 7th all-time receptions (17yrs)
Larry Center 8th all-time receptions (14yrs)
Michael Irvin 16th (tied) all-time receptions (12yrs)
Thurman Thomas 11th all-time rushing yds (13yrs)
Rickey Watters 15th all-time rushing yds. (10yrs)
The reason I put the yrs played is if we're taking into account players cut short by injuries, do you give more credit or take away players who are in the top 5, but took a long time to do it? or do we take away from players who quit when they could still play?
Edge is tearing it up again. God i hope Irsay finds a way to sign this guy.
road doggy dogg
09-25-2005, 01:37 PM
Cadillac Williams is pritty hot
Gonzo
09-25-2005, 01:45 PM
LOL. If anyone is watching the Bills/Falcons did you see #85 of the Falcons kick that guy in the chin and clothesline him on his touchdown catch? Hilarious shit.
MoRcHeEbA
09-25-2005, 01:48 PM
Vikings :)
MoRcHeEbA
09-25-2005, 01:49 PM
lol @ the rams
MoRcHeEbA
09-25-2005, 02:31 PM
anyone else think Orton is for real :?:
MoRcHeEbA
09-25-2005, 02:31 PM
I never thought having the Bengals defense for fantasy would be as good as it has been :lol:
FREENEY SMASH! FREENEY SMASH!
The Miz
09-25-2005, 02:38 PM
Real mature, don't you have an RPG to be playing?
BURN
MACHINE! MACHINE! MACHINE! MACHINE!
BCWWF
09-25-2005, 03:22 PM
Now that the Vikings are back to normal we can go along winning the super bowl.
OssMan
09-25-2005, 03:37 PM
Why do quarterbacks suck this year? Seriously, there have been so many games where QBs have thrown like under 125 yards or 5 INTs or something. I do not remember much of this last year.
I like this defense thing.
MoRcHeEbA
09-25-2005, 03:43 PM
I find it funn that indy only beat Cleveland by 7 points... Guess Manning just can't do anything against the Patriots or there former coaches :)
MoRcHeEbA
09-25-2005, 03:44 PM
funny*
Pennington needs to put some stank on it.
OssMan
09-25-2005, 04:20 PM
YEAH RAIDERS
I PICKED MIAMI!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pennington is guna cry after this game. I have a gut feeling.
Jags :love:
Raiders :mad:
Bengals :rant:
Joey Slugs
09-25-2005, 04:39 PM
i swear.... HDTV makes Bears losses somewhat watchable
OssMan
09-25-2005, 04:44 PM
PLEASE Steelers, Giants need to win today
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