NFL 2005 Season Thread

[RP]

Cato June !:love:

[Nervous Ferret]

You should be more in love with Alex Smith

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Cato June !:love:

Thanks for dropping him! :love:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Fuck's sake Bledsoe you're supposed to suck when I bench you and play good when I start you, not the other fucking way around :mad:

[RP]

This Andre Carter is really good.

[Fubar28]

I have to laugh at them making Buffalo sound like a good team, Hell a high school team could have beat the dolphins with the number of penalty's (a new team record) & mistakes they made. :rant:

[RP]

Peyton Pennington

[Nervous Ferret]

NICE THROW PEYTON

[RP]

Alex Smith is the man for standing in there and throwing the ball atleast. He's getting nailed every time he tries to pass for more then 10 yards.

[DaveWadding]

How is it that here, in Arizona, we don't watch the Arizona game.



local blackout maybe?

You know since the Cardinals suck so much they couldnt sell out a game if Bill Bidwell's life depended on it.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

How the fuck has McCown thrown 270+ yards in one half against Carolina

[RP]

What sucks about that onside kick that the 49ers got was that the Colt were preparing all week for that. Jeff Fisher did stuff similiar with his kicker last year and Dungy said before the game that he was specifically preparing for something like that. God damnit.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Ok San Fran you can use the onside kick, WE GET IT.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Foghorn Keyshaun

[OssMan]

alex smith :(

[Rain Man]

Happy DrA?

[Skippord]

Wow that was a piece of shit game with the Redskins but we still won

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Duane Starks is one of the worst cornerbacks I have ever seen. I think I would rather have Troy Brown out there. He had got burned like 5 times and dropped two INTs.

[RP]

Tom Brady was amazing today.

[RoXer]

Happy DrA?

I am as well.

[DaveWadding]

I am as well.

and me!

[Crimson]

whooo Cowboys ...take that Philly fans

[el fregadero]

Who covered 85 in 2005?

[Y2Ant]

Duane Starks is one of the worst cornerbacks I have ever seen. I think I would rather have Troy Brown out there. He had got burned like 5 times and dropped two INTs.
BURNING CORNERBACKS

[Y2Ant]

Rain Man played the DrA :cool:

I bet DrA makes a ytmnd site about it now :shifty:

[RP]

I'm really starting to like Brady as hard as that is for me to say , but i still dont think he's the best in the league and i'm positive his team isnt the best in the league right now.

Edge is quietly having a MVP caliber season. He wont win it , but considering the fact that teams wont let us throw over the top of them anymore and are daring us the run. He's having a heck of a season. Domick Rhodes cant do what he's doing right now. He's carrying the load in a huge way. I'm scared to even think of the possibility of being without Edge next year.


This might be far fetched, this might be outlandish ( ofcourse it is from me :D ) , but if San Diego beats Pittsburgh tommorow, they ( in my mind ) will be the second best team in the NFL right now. Followed by the Pats.

I dont wanna play Jacksonville in the playoffs. That team is so tuff. I know for a fact that, that game along with the Pats and Pitt games that the Colts have later this year will be one of the toughest games of the season. Jacksonville can beat anyone and i wont be surprised at all if they get red hot in the second half of the season.

I'm not sure what i think about Denver. They always do pretty good in the regular season and then get there asses totally handed to them in the playoffs, but for now i think they deserve some love. They beat a pretty good Redskins team .


One more think about Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. I'm so sick of people comparing them to Montana and Marino. I'm sick of it . They are Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. I'm not gunna grow up and tell my grandkids about Joe Montana or Dan Marino of my era. I'm gunna tell them about Brady and Manning. Marino and Montana wont even make the conversation. At what point do we start talking about these guys without lumping in past legends? I think both have become they're own legends.

[CNM]

The difference between this year's Broncos and the Broncos of the past couple years is their D. Like Indy, they've made a big step up this year.

[RP]

They're front 7 are really nice. Not the best , but one of . They're DB's, I dunno. one week they look good, this week they give up 300yrds to Mark Brunell.

If they played a Pitt, Jacksonville, or Pats team in the playoffs. They could compete. If they played the Bengals, Colts or Chargers , i think they could get killed. I'm not saying Pitt, Jags and Pats are bad teams , i'm just saying that they would matchup badly against the other 3.

[FearedSanctity]

Denver actually has more depth at DB this year than they've had the past two times Indy demolished them. They're playing well and they're only rookies. I'd love to see what they can do in a year or two.

Walls was good, don't know what the fuck happened there.

And Bailey needs to stop getting hurt :mad:

[RP]

Champ bailey is overrated.

[FearedSanctity]

Explain

[BCWWF]

The thing about Chad Johnson, as of right now I don't think there's really a reason to hate him. I mean he does all the stuff, but its all funny, with Moss and Owens its more serious, but with Chad, for example he starts giving the ball CPR. I mean WTF? Thats just funny.

[RP]

The thing about Chad Johnson, as of right now I don't think there's really a reason to hate him. I mean he does all the stuff, but its all funny, with Moss and Owens its more serious, but with Chad, for example he starts giving the ball CPR. I mean WTF? Thats just funny.


The funniest thing about the CPR thing was how he totally finshed it out. He even made a gesture like the ball was dead. I was lolerskates.

[FearedSanctity]

...for example he starts giving the ball CPR. I mean WTF? Thats just funny.

Yeah, the commentator guy didn't think so apparently. But seriously, that shit was gold. We see dude's dance all the time when they score a TD, when was a last time you saw someone give the ball CPR?

[RP]

Explain


When has he shut someone down in a meaningful game?

[el fregadero]

Chad Johnson looked like he was gonna cry after the game tonite though. 5 catches and a touchdown isn't enough for him.

[FearedSanctity]

Eh, true. He doesn't shut WRs down all the time, but he does most of the time. Then again, Denver's D didn't really helped him out much last year. Like some dude said, everyone has their off days. His just happen to be during games against guys like Jerry Porter and Chad Johnson :-\

[RP]

He was non existent in the playoff game last year and they got him specifically to be a big game CB. He hasnt done it in Denver and didnt do it in Washington. Hence why i feel he is a tad overrated. Sure he can shut down a few people a few times in the regular season, but hell so can 15 + CB's in the league.

[FearedSanctity]

Yeah, I never really thought he was the best, but you can't say he's not good. Not that you did

[RP]

Yeah, I never really thought he was the best, but you can't say he's not good. Not that you did


No he's definetly one of the top cb's in the league. I've heard alot of people on TV say he was the best. I dont think he is.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Chad Johnson is the man. After his interview on ESPN I like him even more. He said he wasnt on the same level as TO or Torry Holt because he hasn't been to a Superbowl/won one yet. He didnt call himself the best WR or any of that bullshit. He's the man. Anyone hating on him is a fucking clown seriously. Hes having fun with the game, who is hurting with his celebrations? Nobody.

[VonErich Lives]

Duane Starks is one of the worst cornerbacks I have ever seen. I think I would rather have Troy Brown out there. He had got burned like 5 times and dropped two INTs.

In fairness, you can't a 6-2 TE when you're a 5-10 CB, especially the way Schuab played today, his placement was perfect "us or no one" that's where most his passes were, either his guy would make the play or no one would, it's like the way Moss always says "just put it up, they can't jump with me". I tell ya, I'm Mora, I consider starting Schuab and putting Vick at HB.


One more think about Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. I'm so sick of people comparing them to Montana and Marino. I'm sick of it . They are Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. I'm not gunna grow up and tell my grandkids about Joe Montana or Dan Marino of my era. I'm gunna tell them about Brady and Manning. Marino and Montana wont even make the conversation. At what point do we start talking about these guys without lumping in past legends? I think both have become they're own legends.

Well, Marino started in 1983 you were 1, he finished in 1999 you were 16.
Montana 1979, you weren't a fetus yet, he finished in 1994 you were 12.

So yeah, you probably saw the "last years" of two of the greatest to play the game.

Players will always be compared with retired players while they're active.

When they both retire, you're right they will be their own legends. For now, it's very similar, the way the play, plus the big reason people mention it is the Superbowls. Marino set all the records, Montana won the "big games".

I'm ok with the comparsions for now, eventually they will go away. Also, keep in mind this is only Brady's 6th NFL season 5th starting. That's been the big Brady debate, is he won so much, so fast (3 rings, 2 mvp's in his first 4 years starting) if he doesn't keep that pace (which he wont) how will that effect "his legened".

[VonErich Lives]

that and personally, I think if you're not in the HOF yet, it's always nice to be compared to a HOF'er

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

It wasn't just a 6-2 TE out jumping him though. Wideouts he was covering where open all day, they just did not get the ball all the time due to poor throws. Schaub had an okay game but nothing great. He could have had a much better day with the way the Patriots DBs were playing. Patriots Defense is pretty garbage this year, they need to pick it up.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It so hard to root against the Jaguars. I'm glad that the first loss is out of the way though because all the Bengals hype was getting pretty ridiculous.

[OssMan]

UUUUUHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRrrrrriiighhhhhhhhh Giants/Cowboys are the FOX game next week but, the Redskins are on at 1, and we cant show a game opposite them, now can we.

[CNM]

He was non existent in the playoff game last year and they got him specifically to be a big game CB. He hasnt done it in Denver and didnt do it in Washington. Hence why i feel he is a tad overrated. Sure he can shut down a few people a few times in the regular season, but hell so can 15 + CB's in the league.

What? He held Harrison to 4 catches for 50 yds and no TDs. Manning even said after the game that he purposely avoided going after Champ. Champ wasn't the problem that game. The problem was Roc Alexander and the rest of the defense.

[RP]

Didnt Harrison get the TD when Denver db's never touched him down or was the the year before?

I know Harrison blew Bailey up with a block and Wayne ran a TD in and was pointing back at him and laughing. That was great.

[CNM]

That was the year before. Champ wasn't on the team in the 2003 season.

[VonErich Lives]

More Patriots injuries.

They were trying out DB's they cut and other cut.

McGinist has a broken hand, may play with cast.

Faulk's broken foot they said may be career ending.

I know I notice the Pats more becuase I'm a fan and here, but is it me, or are there more injuries league wide this year? especially to big players?

I haven't looked this up, but they said on the Radio, that Elias sports beaura said the Pats opening 6 games is the toughest 6 game stretch in the history of the NFL.

Hopefully a win this weekend, 4-2 and into the bye week.

The funny thing is, the Pats have the 2nd hardest schedule this year, they said the toughest for the Season is Miami, the reason being Miami has NE x2 on their schedule and NE has Miami x2, so that makes Miami's schedule tougher.

I like to see these type of stats after the season, not who was the tough team last year, who was this year.

[RP]

o here we go. Whining about injuries already.

[Gonzo]

All that matters at the end of the season is who has the most W's and who wins the Superbowls. After that stupid ass shit like how tough your teams schedule was is irrelevant.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Colts have a good chance of being 7-0 when they play the Patriots. Man I really hope the Patriots man up and beat the Colts again. Would be great. Colts are real good this year though and the Patriots aren't as good as they have been. Should be interesting.

[RP]

It should be a heck of a game.

[RP]

I really think other teams think the Colts offense is struggling. I doubt that will be the case with the Pats, but people are gunna realise real soon that if they arent dropping 7 back, we'll be throwing over there heads and if they are dropping 7 back, we'll run it down there throats and play ball controll.

Thats the key difference of Indy this year. Last year they lacked patience. In that New England game when you guys were dropping 7 back for most of the game, Manning tried to force the issue. Instead of taking what we were giving and running it down your throars, which we actually did in the first game of the season. Well now teams are basically doing the same thing New England did in the playoffs and the Colts are exercising a little patience and running the ball almost 60% of the time. Sure the games are a little closer, but only because thats what teams are giving us. If they try to stop the run, they will get burned. Theres no question.

So the real question on November 7th will be whether or not New Englands front 4 can stop the run, because if they cant then its gunna be a long night.

( VEL will take this as a insult and call me an idiot )

[RP]

And i'm not sure what answer New England's O-line will have for the Colts front 4 ( who might be the best in the league by then ).

Corey Simon is a monster and once he's in perfect game shape theres no telling what he could do. Freeney and Mathis are probably the fastest outside rushers in the league. We have so much depth there too. Brock, Triplett, Raegor. One thing San Fransico did really well was they ran alot of draw plays, but eventually the Dline got to Smith reguardless and the Colts stopped the run when they had to.

Frank Gore isnt Corey Dillon, but i think Gores running style is alot more suited for draw plays. I think Dillon is a little more of a tweener. I'm not sure the Pats can get away with drawn play after draw play. Thats all the 49ers did too.

Screen plays ( which New England are really good at ) could kill Indy's speed, but giving the fact that Indy has a bye week before the game, there should be no excuse not to be ready for those.


This game will be special.

[Skippord]

Didnt Harrison get the TD when Denver db's never touched him down or was the the year before?

I know Harrison blew Bailey up with a block and Wayne ran a TD in and was pointing back at him and laughing. That was great.

That never happened:shifty:

[RP]

That never happened:shifty:

:)

[Mr. Monday Morning]

<a href="http://www.startribune.com/stories/510/5663357.html">This</a> is how you spend a bye week

[The Outlaw]

Minnesota's boat party I'm guessing, haha

[VonErich Lives]

So, Tedy Bruschi has been practicing with the Patriots for 1-2 weeks. He can't do drills, since he's on the PUP list.

If he comes back strong that's huge, I just don't know if he really should.

3 rings, money, family... should he risk it?

The argument being talked about is the Doctors told him there was no more risk by playing football then their is walking down the street, if he's going to have an issue it will happen no matter what.

There word is, he's going to need some waiver or huge insurance policy to play.

I dunno, gives me Reggie Lewis flashbacks, but in his case he was told NOT to play, and his wife kept shopping till they found a doctor that said he could.

[BCWWF]

That Minnesota thing sounds pretty funny. I mean, what I gather is that there was a bunch of big football players getting public blow jobs and lap dances on a boat in Lake Minnetonka. I mean, its retarded, but the event in itself is almost comical.

[Gonzo]

Like MMM said, good way to spend a bye week.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

The argument being talked about is the Doctors told him there was no more risk by playing football then their is walking down the street, if he's going to have an issue it will happen no matter what.

Not a medical expert at all but I find it hard to believe that. Surely getting hit the wrong way or even just landing awkwardly poses a danger to his health that's greater than it would be if he hadn't have suffered the stroke, even if it isn't life-threatening.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

This week's games

Atlanta @ New Orleans
Carolina @ Detroit
Cincinnati @ Tennessee
Cleveland @ Baltimore
Jacksonville @ Pittsburgh
Miami @ Tampa Bay
Minnesota @ Chicago
NY Giants @ Dallas
Washington @ Kansas City
New England @ Denver
NY Jets @ Buffalo
San Diego @ Oakland
Houston @ Seattle
St Lous @ Indianapolis

Pretty good matchups. We get shitty Miami-TB and NYJ-Buffalo though :mad:

[VonErich Lives]

Not a medical expert at all but I find it hard to believe that. Surely getting hit the wrong way or even just landing awkwardly poses a danger to his health that's greater than it would be if he hadn't have suffered the stroke, even if it isn't life-threatening.

I'd think that, but what's is being discussed is the hole or holes were repaired and if there is going to be another failure the contact/sport wouldn't make a difference.

I dunno, why risk it?

[Team Sheep]

This week's games

Atlanta @ New Orleans
Carolina @ Detroit
Cincinnati @ Tennessee
Cleveland @ Baltimore
Jacksonville @ Pittsburgh
Miami @ Tampa Bay
Minnesota @ Chicago
NY Giants @ Dallas
Washington @ Kansas City
New England @ Denver
NY Jets @ Buffalo
San Diego @ Oakland
Houston @ Seattle
St Lous @ Indianapolis

Pretty good matchups. We get shitty Miami-TB and NYJ-Buffalo though :mad:

Ah well, gotta take your hat off to Sky, this new NFL deal they have is great. Two live games every Sunday. :y:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I think C5 start showing the late night Sunday games sometime soon as well as the Monday night ones.

According to Ant, anyway :mad:

[RoXer]

Could you sign my melon?


P - E - Y

[Nervous Ferret]

The Dallas/Giants game is the sloppiest piece of shit ever

[Nervous Ferret]

LOL fumble on the 1 yard line. It keeps getting better.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I dunno about kicking the PAT when there's like 15 seconds left and you're in a position to win with a 2 pointer. I understand not wanting to lose but come on.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Jaguars - Steelers going to OT as well, damn.

[Team Sheep]

This Miami/Tampa Bay game's been pretty crap for the most part. So many incomplete passes and flags. It picked up a bit in the 3rd quarter though. Hopefully the Buffalo/Jets game will be more entertaining. :D

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Falcons - Saints looks like it will go to OT as well :|

[Mr. Monday Morning]

This Miami/Tampa Bay game's been pretty crap for the most part. So many incomplete passes and flags. It picked up a bit in the 3rd quarter though. Hopefully the Buffalo/Jets game will be more entertaining. :D

Nah, not unless the Bills murder Vinny.

Tomorrow night's game on 5 should be the one to watch, potentially a great shootout :yes:

[OssMan]

BOOOOOOO

Anyway the ending to Jaguars/Steelers was awesome

also LOL at Vikings.

[Gonzo]

Wow our pass defense is so bad, like I already knew that but we are fucked cause teams can just exploit it every week. We made some good offensive plays down the stretch but way too many TO's and no points off all of Dallas' TO's will lose you the game.

[Team Sheep]

Nah, not unless the Bills murder Vinny.

Tomorrow night's game on 5 should be the one to watch, potentially a great shootout :yes:

Yeah I wanna see that, but it's on at like 2am, and the whole going to school in the morning thing effects that. :(

[The Outlaw]

Fucking Saints got screwed.

LOL. Jacksonville beat a Ben/Hines/Duceless Steelers team in OT. Tommy Maddox is pretty shittacular. All he has to do is hold on to the ball and it is over.

[Gonzo]

Yeah my friends are telling me the Saints got shafted, I'm not watching but from what I hear it was pretty ridiculous.

[OssMan]

The defense is what kept them in the game this week. Totally different from last four weeks.

Pretty obvious they were gonna lose though, they are like 3-25 coming off bye weeks or something. The same thing happened last year and then we went on a 7 game losing streak.

[Kris P Lettus]

The refs in San Antonio seem to be Falcon fans.. THREE horrible calls that lead to 17 points..

-pass interference that took away an INT
-not calling pushing off on the blocked field goal when he obviously used the lineman's backs
-that bullshit holding call on the last field goal

First two lead to 14 points, last one lead to a field goal for the win..

I'm writing a letter..

Who Dat??

[Crimson]

kickass games today. I could only keep up with the cowboys/Giants and Lions/Panthers. Cowboys almost gave that game away after pretty much dominating on offense.

And Harrington has like no arm strength.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'll admit, I was trying to look past the Giants' 3-13 after bye weeks stat...but then just watching everything go wrong, I had a bad feeling.

I'm just glad it went into overtime and that they at least made a game out of it. Still 3-2 heading back home against Denver. Eli may have come back to Earth this week...hopefully he'll leave again next week</font>

[Kris P Lettus]

Oh and I forgot the bullshit pushoff offensive pass interference call that negated the Hakim TD..

BULLSHIT

[The Outlaw]

Yeah, like I said, the Saints pretty much got a huge dick shoved in their ass today.

[RoXer]

That Saints call at the end was pretty terrible.

The Cowboys are the greatest team ever.

What is going on in Minnesota?

lol Detriot

Those 2 fumbles in OT in Pitssburgh. :nono:

Thats about it

[OssMan]

Tomlinson :o

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yeah I wanna see that, but it's on at like 2am, and the whole going to school in the morning thing effects that. :(

Find a 3 hour VHS tape and use long play record, set it for 00.50 - 05.35, presto. They show extended highlights from the late Sunday game (Seattle - Houston this week) and every score from the weekend. Also the colour guy is really knowledgable and a funny fucker to boot.

DO IT.

[RoXer]

MADDEN

[RoXer]

ehhhh, the with the more points there should ehhh be the err team to win tonight

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Actually I meant the colour guy they have here in the studio :$:$

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Patriots getting smacked by the Broncos. Duane Starks should be cut after this game. He has gotten burned like 3 times already. Chad Brown sucks too, all he does is catch blocks. Patriots Defense is hurtin' this year. Dillon isn't playing either, he is in uniform but he isn't taped up or anything.

[OssMan]

Where the hell is Randy Moss

[Skippord]

DOMINATION

[el fregadero]

Fucking Saints got screwed.

LOL. Jacksonville beat a Ben/Hines/Duceless Steelers team in OT. Tommy Maddox is pretty shittacular. All he has to do is hold on to the ball and it is over.
No Fred Taylor for the Jags though. My boy Greg Jones did okay in his place.

[FearedSanctity]

Mankins is a bitch :mad:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Where the hell is Randy Moss

Got injured in the 1st quarter, no details yet.

[OssMan]

Wow, I bet the Patriots are gonna win this game. So stupid.

[FearedSanctity]

That's Denver for you :nono:

[OssMan]

LOL Branch

[Skippord]

DOMINATION

Scratch That:nono:

[CNM]

So what. A win's a win. They're the world champs.

[FearedSanctity]

A win may be a win, but you NEVER wanna have a collapse like that.

And yeah, they're the world champs. But look how many key players they had missing

[Skippord]

Hopefully the collapse gets us fired up for the giants game

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Patriots made a game out of it. That's good to see but it sucks to see the injuries finally catching up with them. I'm still not sold on the new linebackers either though. Chad Brown catches way too many blocks and everytime he does make a tackle it is 5 yards down the field. 3-3 is not bad after the schedule and the injuries but there is something different about this season for the Pats. Doesn't have the same "feel"

Heard something thats Bruschi might be back, if he comes back man. I don't know - it would be fucking crazy.

[RP]

Duane Starks is horrible. Burned for a 70+ yard td and a 52 yard td in the same game.

[RP]

Bruschi looks like he's lost alot of weight. He might wanna pick up Romo's book.

[BCWWF]

The best part about the Vikings is that they are only one game out of first :lol:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

That'll change when Superstar Kyle Orton gets going :shifty:

Seriously, how bad must the Saints have played to lose in Week 3 :$

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Carson Palmer tied Peyton's record of consecutive games with at least a 100 QB rating. IMO he's been the MVP so far this season.

Opinions please

[RP]

If it had a vote. I'd vote like this..


3rd place vote : Carson Palmer

2nd place vote : Dwight Freeny....:shifty: Ok Probably Shaun Alexander


1st place vote : Ladanian Tomlinson . He's done everything.

[VonErich Lives]

Ok my pats notes.

1) I'm done trying to defend or find excuses for Starks, hope he's cut today.

2) They haven't stopped the run all year, and if you can't stop the run you can't win. It's because of injuries/retirements, but that doesn't change the fact that you don't have those players. We'll see how Bruschi changes things, but the MLB core has been crap, and the DL w/o Seymore has been crap, even Eugene Wilson has disapears without Harrison around.

3) The OL needs Matt Light back fast, can't remember the last time I saw Brady get smacked around like that.

Anyway, 3-3, not thrilled, but tied for first, and all that matters is being undefeated in the playoffs...

also, WTF, Givens has the tools to be a great WR, but he keeps looking like the guy from Necessary Roughness

[VonErich Lives]

The best part about the Vikings is that they are only one game out of first :lol:

the money's on Mike Tice getting fired this week.

Word is charges are coming against a lot of the players for the party boat.

the more details I hear, the more I think the scum get what the deserve.

Heck, even guys not with the team are getting in trouble

Credit Draftsharks:
** Vikings RB Onterrio Smith, already suspended for one year for violating the NFL's substance abuse policy, has been accused of sexual assault by a 21-year-old Twin Cities woman, according to KSTP-TV in Minneapolis. A civil suit filed today alleges that Smith and another unnamed Vikings player were drinking with the woman on June 12 when she passed out. The victim alleges that when she awoke, both players were on top of her. The woman has fetal alcohol syndrome. Nice job, Onterrio. Somebody kick this guy out of the league, but quick.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Colts got that new astroplay stuff? I didn't think they would ever get rid of the classic Astroturf with their offense.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

17-0 Rams right now

[RP]

17-0 Rams right now


I still feel good about this game

[RP]

CATO FUCKING JUNE BITCH!

[el fregadero]

Carson Palmer tied Peyton's record of consecutive games with at least a 100 QB rating. IMO he's been the MVP so far this season.

Opinions please
I'd agree actually. Definitely between him and Tomlinson in my mind.

[SammyG]

Shut up RP, its still early in the game, But i think The Rams can stick this out and win this game. I just hope Marc is ok..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Palmer and Cinci have been real good this year. MVP so far I guess. Its still crazy early tho

[SammyG]

Martin Quarterbacking for us now...

[SammyG]

Shit Bulger seems to be done for the game. FUCK. Martin looked graet in preseason, but this is a hell of a spotlight to be making his debut.

[Gonzo]

LaDainian is the MVP, Chargers are shit without him.

[RP]

Shut up RP, its still early in the game, But i think The Rams can stick this out and win this game. I just hope Marc is ok..


What?

I said What?

[SammyG]

U didnt say anything. I'm just baffled that we are winning this game, 20-14 right now. Martin looks solid.

[FearedSanctity]

Way to go Rams :roll:

[RP]

Edge should be in the mvp talks

[Nervous Ferret]

LOL nice job Rams

[RP]

CATO FUCKING JUNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nervous Ferret]

*cue RP cato june masturbation post*

[Nervous Ferret]

you beat me :'(

[RP]

Theres your record folks!

[RP]

Thats two records Manning is apart of that i doubt will ever be broken. Manning and Harrison will be together for atleast 6 more years.

[RP]

Over the past week and especially after tonight. I hear all this undefeated talk. I personally think there should be no talk about this. I believe the only reason why its being talked about so early is because Indy is clicking on all cylinders literally. Defense , Offense, Special teams. They are obviously the best team in the league and probably by alot, but i dont think undefeated talk should even start to be talked about until the 10-0 mark.

That being said, there is no way we go undefeated. Between the Patriots game, Steelers game, Bengals game and Chargers game, somewhere in there they will lose. I'll be beside myself if its to the Patriots ( obviously ) , but if i had to bet on it , i'd say the Patriots.

The loss could even come in Jacksonville.

Anyways. Cato June , Robert Mathis, Dwight Freeney and Bob Sanders will be in the Pro Bowl this year, barring any dramatic decline in there production.

[el fregadero]

Don't worry, I've already guranteed everybody that will listen that the Colts lose in Jacksonville. I will be making some serious cash if Indy goes in undefeated.

[Team Sheep]

I've been getting into football lately. What I don't get though, how are the schedules decided? I was checking out the Jets schedule earlier, and this season they have: The Chiefs, The Dolphins, The Jaguars, The Ravens, The Buccaneers, The Bills, The Falcons, The Chargers, The Panthers, The Bronco's, The Saints, The Patriots, The Raiders, and The Dolphins, the Patriots and the Bills again.

How come it's only these teams that they play, and no one else? And how come they play The Dolphins, The Pats and The Bills twice?

And how is the whole play-off thing at the end of the season determined? Thanks.

[KingofOldSchool]

The Jets are in the same division as the Dolphins, Pats, and Bills so naturally they will play each other more.

[The Outlaw]

Shut up RP, its still early in the game, But i think The Rams can stick this out and win this game. I just hope Marc is ok..

:wave:

[Team Sheep]

The Jets are in the same division as the Dolphins, Pats, and Bills so naturally they will play each other more.

Yeah I can see that, but why do they only play a selected few other teams? Why those teams specifically?

[Gonzo]

They rotate the schedules. Like for instance, the Jets will always play their divisonal opponents twice each year, one home game and one away game with each team. Then they will play two other divisions (4 teams each) and finally two other teams based on previous years record I think. Then they throw a bye week in there and you have the 17 week NFL season.

[Team Sheep]

Ah right, seems logical enough. So how many teams qualify for the play-offs and all at the end of the season?

[Gonzo]

4 Divisional Champions in each conference and 2 Wildcard teams in each conference. So 12. The top two teams of each conference get bye weeks, and the top team in a conference gets home field advantage throughout the playoffs. The Superbowl is at a predetermined location that is neutral, unless the freak chance that the local team makes it there.

[OssMan]

It's in like Miami every other year though, they are gonna get in some time, do they actually change it if the home team makes it in?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Just to add to what Gonzo said above ^^^ cause I remember when I first started watching it confused the hell out of me.

Each divisional winner (i.e. North, South, East and West) are into the playoffs automatically. The team with the best overall record in the conference (AFC and NFC) gets home field advantage through the playoffs. Then basically the 2 best runners up in each conference get the wildcard spots. Normally there's a few teams tied on the same win-loss record (around 9-7 is the average) and so after that they take into account the win-loss record against other teams in the conference, in the division (making it even more important to beat your rivals), and so on.

The 6 teams who make it are sorted by their records, and then the top 2 get the first week of the playoffs as a bye, while 3rd plays 6th and 4th plays 5th. Then the winners progress against the top 2 to the divisional games, then those 2 winners to the conference game, and then the Superbowl.

Hope that helps.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

CATO FUCKING JUNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I promise this is the last time I taunt you about dropping him :'(

[Nervous Ferret]

It's in like Miami every other year though, they are gonna get in some time, do they actually change it if the home team makes it in?No they spend 6 years getting ready for a superbowl they aren't going to change the location two weeks before because the the local team gets in

[VonErich Lives]

It's in like Miami every other year though, they are gonna get in some time, do they actually change it if the home team makes it in?

No they spend 6 years getting ready for a superbowl they aren't going to change the location two weeks before because the the local team gets in

The "most hosts" was New Orelans, after 2007, Miami will be tied, after 2010, Miami will have the most.

The thought is this is a sign that the NFL will move the saints.

Personally, I think if there's no NO team, having them as a permanint host for the super bowl would be cool.

Detroit is a horrible idea, but they build a new stadium (dome) so they got one. New England would have gotten one, but you have to either be a warm climate or a dome
07-miami
08-ariz
09-tamoa
10-miami

[Gonzo]

I've always been one of the people who wouldn't mind a Superbowl in a cold climate stadium. They're professionals they ought to cope with it. Come to think of it the only reason they don't do this is for the halftime show, may be hard to do one in the snow. :roll:

[OssMan]

New Orleans is kinda dead. Dunno if they want a superbowl there.

[OssMan]

what is tamoa

[RP]

I promise this is the last time I taunt you about dropping him :'(



but the thing is, i'm seriously happy for you because he is CATO FRIGGIN JUNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[VonErich Lives]

I've always been one of the people who wouldn't mind a Superbowl in a cold climate stadium. They're professionals they ought to cope with it. Come to think of it the only reason they don't do this is for the halftime show, may be hard to do one in the snow. :roll:

Yeah, has nothing to do with the players, has to do with the millions in marketing and tourism.

[VonErich Lives]

what is tamoa

I left out the "P" because I didn't want you to be reminded of being Pissed on.

[Team Sheep]

Thanks MMM, it should catch on eventually :y: .

Oh and I've decided to follow The Jets. I enjoyed they're gameplay on Sunday and thought they showed good spirit and determination to never give up against The Bills. I think they're a really exciting team to watch, and Vinny Testaverde looks awesome. Also probably the fact that I follow The Mets in Baseball and New York's my favourite place that I've been to in America, and I thought it would make sense to follow another NY team.

They're at The Georgia Dome this Monday, and it's live on 5. Half term for me next week, all night football watching :D .

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Jets huh :wavesad:

[Team Sheep]

:love:

[Nervous Ferret]

:love:!!!!

[Team Sheep]

2-4 :( Early days yet, early days...

[Nervous Ferret]

Only one game out of the division lead :shifty:

Hey in 2002 they started 2-5 and won the division

But really, tough schedule up ahead

[Nervous Ferret]

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>@ Atlanta monday night, then the bye.

Remaining schedule :(

Nov 6 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2005/week9)
</TD><TD align=left>San Diego (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/SD)</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1131300000))</SCRIPT>1:00pm</TD><TD align=left>708</TD><TD align=left>123</TD><TD>144</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Nov 13 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2005/week10)</TD><TD align=left>@Carolina (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/CAR)</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1131915900))</SCRIPT>4:05pm</TD><TD align=left>714</TD><TD align=left>117</TD><TD>144</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Nov 20 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2005/week11)</TD><TD align=left>@Denver (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/DEN)</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1132521300))</SCRIPT>4:15pm</TD><TD align=left>715</TD><TD align=left>125</TD><TD>126</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Nov 27 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2005/week12)</TD><TD align=left>New Orleans (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/NO)</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1133141400))</SCRIPT>8:30pm</TD><TD align=left> </TD><TD align=left>125</TD><TD>127</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Dec 4 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2005/week13)</TD><TD align=left>@New England (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/NE)</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1133730900))</SCRIPT>4:15pm</TD><TD align=left>715</TD><TD align=left>127</TD><TD>110</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Dec 11 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2005/week14)</TD><TD align=left>Oakland (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/OAK)</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1134324000))</SCRIPT>1:00pm</TD><TD align=left>707</TD><TD align=left>111</TD><TD>117</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Dec 18 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2005/week15)</TD><TD align=left>@Miami (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/MIA)</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1134928800))</SCRIPT>1:00pm</TD><TD align=left>710</TD><TD align=left>123</TD><TD>143</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Dec 26 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2005/week16)</TD><TD align=left>New England (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/NE)</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1135648800))</SCRIPT>9:00pm</TD><TD align=left> </TD><TD align=left>125</TD><TD>124</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>Jan 1 (http://www.nfl.com/scores/2005/week17)</TD><TD align=left>Buffalo (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/BUF)</TD><TD align=left><SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%I:%M%p', 1136138400))</SCRIPT>1:00pm</TD><TD align=left>712</TD><TD align=left>123</TD><TD>131</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

:(

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Atlanta L
San Diego L
Carolina L
Denver L
New Orleans W
New England L
Oakland W
Miami L
New England L
Buffalo W

[Supreme Olajuwon]

3-7

[Team Sheep]

Hey, it's all about how you perform on the day.

[OssMan]

Oh its supposed to be Tampa.

[The Miz]

Jets wont beat Oakland

[Supreme Olajuwon]

yes huh

[Nervous Ferret]

Atlanta W
San Diego W
Carolina W
Denver L
New Orleans W
New England L
Oakland W
Miami W
New England W
Buffalo W

8-2 :shifty:

[Nervous Ferret]

But that is how it would have to happen to make the playoffs :rant:

[Jerichoholic]

I can't wait for this weekend, Dallas vs. Seatlle should be 'sick'.

[RP]

Atlanta W ( gut feeling here )
San Diego L
Carolina L
Denver L
New Orleans W
New England L
Oakland W
Miami W
New England W ( They can probably get up and beat the Pats atleast once )
Buffalo W

6-4

finish 8-8 and no playoffs. Honestly if my team was that bad off and had that schedule remaining, i'd root for 0-10. I'd want the number 1 pick. Testeverde aint taking you no where. You need some Reggie Bush on that team.

[OssMan]

Plaxico Burress is going to match up against a 5'8'' rookie on Denver. Should be good

[VonErich Lives]

Hey Miz or someone else from Seattle, what's his place that the player got beat up and holmgrem banned his players from going to?

[The Miz]

Larry's Nightclub.

[RP]

http://espn.go.com/i/nfl/profiles/players/statsid/s3895.jpg


DaZeD AnD CoNfUsEd!!!

[VonErich Lives]

Larry's Nightclub.

Yeah, they just say "a nightclub", but apperently Holmgrem has banned all players and coaches from Pioneer Square.

Also said 2 players were with Hamlin that night and that this isn't the first incident players have had in that area...

Miz, any more info?

I also heard one of the guys suposivly fighting with Hamlin was found dead later that night?

So, is this just a bad area? or just maybe some players flaunting asking for trouble? or dumb drunks picking a fight?

We had the Paul Pierce stabbing a few years back, was at a bar "private party" more the story came out, he was hitting on some gang members girl friend and after someone told him he continued. Players endedup throwing him in their car and driving him to the hospital, probably saved his life, would have blead out if they waited for an ambulance.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah Pierce got stabbed by some dudes that had a connections with the rap group Hangmen 3..for something that crazy it really didn't recieve THAT much attention at all though. It was kind of weird.

[RP]

Why is Nick Sabin such a fucking prick to the media? God he's so fucking annoying. He acts like an ass before anyone asks a questions. I guess he thinks they arent entitled to questions or something? If he was the coach of my team i'd be embarressed . He's seriously a fucking prick to the point of embarressment.

[el fregadero]

http://espn.go.com/i/nfl/profiles/players/statsid/s3895.jpg


DaZeD AnD CoNfUsEd!!!
Jake Plummer is the man through and through. Not saying he's the best quarterback, just "the man".

[RP]

Jake Plummer is the man through and through. Not saying he's the best quarterback, just "the man".

MVP consideration imo.

[el fregadero]

I dunno if awesomeness off the field is taken into consideration but it should be.

[RP]

he's such a hippie

[el fregadero]

But look at that studly stash.

[RP]

he's really high in that picture.

[Skippord]

Plaxico Burress is going to match up against a 5'8'' rookie on Denver. Should be good

Darrent Williams is the man dude

[Skippord]

http://espn.go.com/i/nfl/profiles/players/statsid/s3895.jpg


DaZeD AnD CoNfUsEd!!!

Our Quarterback looks like a 70's porn star:'(

[CNM]

LOL Jake called up some local gossip columnist and cussed her out for outing his Bronco cheerleader girlfriend. He is indeed the man

[Rain Man]

Get to change the avatar tomorrow

[RP]

You should change the your title too.

[OssMan]

They should have played Dolphins/Chiefs in Kansas City and called it a home game :shifty:

[RP]

They should have played Dolphins/Chiefs in New York and called it a home game.

[BCWWF]

What was the attendance at that game?

[RP]

Manning is playing like dogshit and the Texans are back in the game.

[OssMan]

I hate the fuckin redskins so mother cfucken much

[OssMan]

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHhhhhhhhh

[RP]

Shannon Sharp is the worst.lol

[Mr. Monday Morning]

lol jesus LT has 7 carries for -8 yards so far. Unbelievable.

[RP]

I think he'll break atleast one big play

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Oh I wouldn't bet against it. But to be midway through the 3rd and have negative rushing yards is I imagine unheard of for him.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

lol the Saints are up by 7 on the road and try a fake field goal and get stuffed. Wow I hope that comes back to bite them on the ass, Haslett is a fucking retard.

[RP]

The Texans fans are putting bags on there head.:lol:


Jerome Mathis just ran back a kickoff for a td. He's been killing the Colts all day.

[Rain Man]

The Eagles D held LT to 7 yards rushing on 17 carries thats pretty crazy.. I wanted LT to get the record though.

[Rain Man]

LOL at Nate Kaeding

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Does Jamal Lewis have compromising pictures of Bill Billick or something

[OssMan]

LOL why is Jamal Lewis so fucking bad. I dunno if it is him because it seems like every time he gets the ball he is hit in the back field or if he gets any yards at all there are like five defenders in his face. Does he even have 200 yards this season :o

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Before today:

J Lewis 98 - 292 1 TD
C Taylor 35 - 202 0 TD

I don't think it's the Ravens.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Warner > McCown

[OssMan]

YES YES YES YES

[OssMan]

:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

[OssMan]

ELIIIIIIIIIII

[Skippord]

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK I hate Mike Shannahan with a passion

[FearedSanctity]

Yeah, because the DBs not covering was SOO Shanahan's fault

[Skippord]

I like are DBs I dont like shanahan with his stupid face

[FearedSanctity]

DAMNIT, Denver needs everybody to be against them. When people on TV and shit don't pick them to win or talk about how bad they are, they almost always win.

But as soon as everyone starts praising them, they go to shit.


FUCK

[OssMan]

http://images.nfl.com/photos/img8998788.jpg yessssss

[FearedSanctity]

lol, his stupid face? Come on now dude

No one said anything during that 5 game win streak, we lose on the second to last play and now everyone's anti-Shanahan again.

[Skippord]

LOLZ at champ bailey after the game

[Skippord]

But shanahans face does bug me

[OssMan]

I am throwing things around my house

[CNM]

Yeah, Shanahan's fault? How about everyone's fault. Elam missed a FG, the offense choked and went 3 and out on their last drive and that damn prevent defense led to disaster yet again. Larry Coyer sucks...

[FearedSanctity]

btw, Assman...


http://images.nfl.com/u/photos/pl_172328.jpg

[Skippord]

Bailey made a nice catch on the upside

[FearedSanctity]

Then again, on the downside, WE LOST

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>YESSSSSSSSS fucking amazing ending. Scary similar to the 1998 game. Toomer TD ends the Broncos' streak

Also, lol @ the announcers going on and on about the Broncos' no-turnover streak but never mentioning that the Giants finally ended it on the last play of the game</font> :D

[FearedSanctity]

lol @ the announcers going on and on about the Broncos' no-turnover streak but never mentioning that the Giants finally ended it on the last play of the game :D

FUCK, just realised that :'(

[Rain Man]

Sucks how Denver is gonna loose two weeks in a row next week... sorry guys

[Skippord]

Unless we pull a Chargers I respectfully disagree

[Skippord]

Then again, on the downside, WE LOST

You know if you stay on that everything will look bad :shifty:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

TOs got 100 TD catches now

[RP]

7-0 coming to New England there steamer.

[Gonzo]

GGGGG MEN.

[The Outlaw]

The Saints get shafted again...How in the HELL do you miss that call? Pathetic.

[RP]

The Saints get shafted again...How in the HELL do you miss that call? Pathetic.

what happend

[RP]

This just in. Bengals defense looks pretty average.

[The Outlaw]

Saints' Stallworth caught a pass and was on the ground...on the ground...on the fucking ground...and a guy came by and snatched the ball and returned it and they called it an interception.

[RP]

D CAF! D CAF!

[el fregadero]

Wasn't Stallworth, it was Ernie Conwell. After the play he was standing there laughing. Obviously he thought he was down.

[RP]

What are the chances that Eli Manning and the Giants play Peyton Manning and the Colts in the Superbowl this year?

[el fregadero]

Slim to none

[RP]

Slim to none


You think? Explain.

[Skippord]

The Colts always choke; then again so do we

You heard it here first the Super Bowl Champion will be

The Buffalo Bills

[el fregadero]

Colts will more than likely be there and more than likely win it, but I'm not sold on the Giants. Actually, there is no team in the NFC that is far and away the best, so maybe they will.

I don't know.

[RP]

Keyshawn Johnson blasting Michael Irvin in his face saying he never blocked and he just caught balls, then telling him he couldnt play for Parcells. Basically impying Irvin was soft. It was great. Not sure if i agree , but it was funny .

[RP]

Colts will more than likely be there and more than likely win it, but I'm not sold on the Giants. Actually, there is no team in the NFC that is far and away the best, so maybe they will.

I don't know.


I agree. I would have said the Bucs before Griese went down. The Redskins looks really tough this year. Atlanta will probably be in the NFC champ game, but did you see the Eagles defense today? They absolutely shut down L. Tomlinson. That was incredible. I'd say the Eagles have to be the favorites.

[el fregadero]

Favorites, maybe, but far and away the best? I think not.

[RP]

No , but i think they might be towards the end of the season.

[The Outlaw]

Wasn't Stallworth, it was Ernie Conwell. After the play he was standing there laughing. Obviously he thought he was down.

Yeah Conwell my b.

Keyshawn Johnson blasting Michael Irvin in his face saying he never blocked and he just caught balls, then telling him he couldnt play for Parcells. Basically impying Irvin was soft. It was great. Not sure if i agree , but it was funny .

Parcells is a douche. Johnson is a douche. Perfect fit.

[RP]

Yeah Conwell my b.



Parcells is a douche. Johnson is a douche. Perfect fit.


This i dont doubt , but i really hate Michael Irvin.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Saints' Stallworth caught a pass and was on the ground...on the ground...on the fucking ground...and a guy came by and snatched the ball and returned it and they called it an interception.

lol the Saints are up by 7 on the road and try a fake field goal and get stuffed. Wow I hope that comes back to bite them on the ass, Haslett is a fucking retard.

:yes:

Nah seriously though I've only seen the play once but I think they must've ruled that he didn't have control of the ball, it looked to me like the ball might've bounced out of his hands when he hit the ground :-\