NFL 2005 Season Thread

[Nervous Ferret]

yeah noticed the other was a "preview", so I guess this is for the season.

Raiders/Pats in like 10 mins

[The Icon of Elisim]

Who is everyone betting on this weekend. I like Carolina, Cinci, Minnesota and St Louis to cover the spreads. My friend is pretty confident in New England and Denver but I don't know what to expect from Denver this season and the Pats spread is too big for me to take against a team like Oakland.

Good game so far. Oakland's run defense looks pretty solid in the first quarter and the Pats TE looks like a stud.

LOL Branch just made a big play, Oakland's secondary is awful

[The Icon of Elisim]

11 minutes in and Brady has thrown for 100+ yards and that doesn't even count two overthrown balls

[The Answer]

RANDY FUCKIN MOSS!!!!!!!:eek:

[Nervous Ferret]

yeah Bradys got 197 yards with 5 minutes left in the half

[Zen v.W.o.]

What's with this lame fucking halftime song about? Fucking country hicks.

ABC needs to wisen up.

[Gonzo]

Yeah dude the Raiders need to shore up their pass defense, get some rush going. Dropping 8 into coverage isn't working for them, Brady will pick that apart all day long no matter which way you slice it. Gotta get some pressure and force some bad throws.

[Crimson]

Oaklands games will be fun this year, high scoring, since their defense is crap. Or their run defense is lookin good actually tonite. Thair secondary is just young but they got talent...Stanford Routt is the best freakin name.

[Joey Slugs]

we need to get a mod in here sticky the "official ______ season" threads

[Gonzo]

Good call, that and the "footy" thread for all them Euro footy fans. :D

[road doggy dogg]

Moss' TD was sick

[RP]

I'm not sure what to think about the Pats O. On one hand they looked very good. Great actually. On the other hand, the Raiders defense was horrible. 16 pentaltys . Glad to see the Raiders working on game discipline.

[RP]

Randy Moss is sick. I just watched an NFL network interview with him. He seems so much more mature. He could win MVP this year.

[VonErich Lives]

Guess that was Warren Sapp's last game.

"I say the day they beat me is the day I retire because I'm no longer able to play this game like I should."
--- Warren Sapp on the New England Patriots just before Super Bowl XXXVIII (Patriots v Panthers) - Jan. 2004

[PureHatred]

Raiders looked awful last night and Kerry Collins made at least 5 big mistakes that cost them fiedl position and pissibly points. Giving away damn near 160 yards in penalites doesn't exactly help either. And the Pats were the Pats. Not in mid-season form yet, but if they had been, they would've won in a romp.

[Y2Ant]

LOL totally marked out when Moss caught that bomb, then juked past Rodney Harrison :cool:

BURNING SAFETIES

[road doggy dogg]

To the Raiders' credit, they were stuffing Dillon almost all game. Something positive at least :shifty:

[el fregadero]

LOL totally marked out when Moss caught that bomb, then juked past Rodney Harrison :cool:

BURNING SAFETIES
I felt the same way. I predicted Moss would catch two TDs and beat Harrison, so I was 2/3 right.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Courtney Anderson, where the hell did that come from.

Fucking Pollard had better come up big this weekend now :mad: :$

[BCWWF]

I watched the first half, and I thought that it was more the case of the Raiders just being bad then the Pats being really good. You could tell that the Pats D was a little shaky, but I don't think they will have any major problems without Bruschi. The Raiders defense on the other hand, was absolutely awful. The Pats were running in and out of the secondary.

[RP]

The second half, the Pats did what makes them the champs. They adjusted. Totally shut down the Raiders passing game and pretty much picked there way through the Raiders defense to score. Raiders just never had enough.

Randy Moss cutting back on Harrison was :drool:

[Gonzo]

I don't think it was much the Patriots doing either, the Raiders pass defense was like swiss cheese. Moss juking out Harrison though was :heart:

Can't wait till Sunday though. Going down to the Meadowlands to watch the Giants and the Cards baby. GGGGGGG Men.

[The Miz]

That was a winnable game. Kerry Collins is bad.

[RP]

That was a winnable game. Kerry Collins is bad.


I'm not sure what to make of Collins. When he's pressured. Shit hits the fan. He has no clue what to do, but if he get time to sit back there and look at the defense. He'll throw for 350yrds and 3 td's.

[RP]

On the intentional grounding call. All he had to do was throw it past the line of scrimmage and he was good to go. Couldnt even do that.

[PureHatred]

Also, for a guy known for the long ball, he missed Moss at least twice in the endzone, and really should've thown it higher on that depe route that Moss adjusted to. He also had a chance to throw underneath and give his team a FG attempt. Just a lot of iffy decisions; which is kind of a Kerry Collins staple.

Have a feeling a lot of Raiders fans are going to be bitter after this year.

[Gonzo]

Ha. I had to deal with that shit for like 5 years. :|

[Lotus]

Rodney Harrison is a dirty motherfuckin' player. Oh well, didn't expect the Raiders to win. If their O-Line gave Collins better protection, it would have been more interesting.

[Gonzo]

Collins would rip shit up if he has time to throw. I don't know what the Raiders are doing having him roll out because he is terrible on the move, definitely not a mobile QB by any means. Collins is your cookie cutter pocket passer. Give him time and he will rip you apart but any good rush will mess him up.

[RP]

He's Drew Bledsoe with a drinking problem.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

LOL totally marked out when Moss caught that bomb, then juked past Rodney Harrison :cool:

BURNING SAFETIESI "marked out" when Rodney Harrison's team won

[road doggy dogg]

Collins would rip shit up if he has time to throw. I don't know what the Raiders are doing having him roll out because he is terrible on the move, definitely not a mobile QB by any means. Collins is your cookie cutter pocket passer. Give him time and he will rip you apart but any good rush will mess him up.

Yeah but you gotta figure that they're not going to face the Pats every week. I mean they didn't play great defensively at all (compared to their usual), but they still did hot. Like totally switching their defensive scheme from 3-4 to 4-3 on the spot like that, kinda hot.

[Gonzo]

He's Drew Bledsoe with a drinking problem.

My dad and I, as Giants fans used to joke about him drinking again when he made a bad play. Made for some laughs. :lol:

[VonErich Lives]

Collins is a good QB who makes dumb mistakes. Expect 300-400yd games, 2-3 TD's and 1 or 2 int's or fumbles per game.

I think Sapp should show he's a man of his word and retire.

Also, after the game Lamont Jordan said "I don't know why everyones worried about the Patriots with loss of their OC/DC, that's the same Patriot team I went up against twice a year, there still just as good".

Ben Watson looks like he'll be a monster, he's like 6'6 and fast.

Next week should be a better test vs. a team with a good defense.

[OssMan]

lol the raiders shitty defense smother Corey Dillon. CANT GET OVER THIS

[The Miz]

Their rush D is not awful. They're pass D is probably the worst in the league though

[RoXer]

Haven't posted it in this thread yet...

THE ARIZONA CARDINALS WILL WIN THE NFC WEST

[RP]

I'm not sure what i think about this...


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nflpredictions2005&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[Nervous Ferret]

FUCK they all have the Jets making the playoffs. FUCKING jinxes

[OssMan]

I GOT COLTS OVER EAGLES IN MADDEN

[road doggy dogg]

I think they like the Colts. Kinda subtle though

[RP]

I think they like the Colts. Kinda subtle though



No shit.


There seem to be a league wide big expectations for the Colts. Hopefully we live up to it. One of our major tests come tommorow.

[el fregadero]

lol at Edge being MVP

[Nervous Ferret]

lol at <s>Edge</s> Stephen Davis being MVP

[Gertner]

The Arizona Cardinals are gonna win there division this year

[OssMan]

TIME TO WATCH THE REDSKINS!

[OssMan]

LOL anyone see Ramsey get owned

[FearedSanctity]

Champ's hurt... :'( :nono: :mad:

[RoXer]

God, I have to either watch the boring Jax/Sea or Den/Mia game. Both are terrible at the moment.

[RoXer]

Champ? Champ Bailey? FUCK, he's on my fantasy team. :(

[Nervous Ferret]

:'(

like 6 fumbles by Pennington so far. :mad: Like his first time out of shotgun ever. :mad"

[OssMan]

NFL need to do something like MLB.tv so I can watch gay highlights

[FearedSanctity]

Champ? Champ Bailey? FUCK, he's on my fantasy team. :(

Yeah :(

They said it's only a strained shoulder, so I guess that's good. Atleast he got you points from his pick before he got taken out though.

[FearedSanctity]

Goddamn, Denver is getting destroyed by the heat. Champ Bailey, Lenny Walls AND Darrent Williams are out, Walls and Williams from cramps. So now they've got rookies and a SAFETY playing corner

[RP]

Go GO Jets run defense.:lol:

[The Miz]

Awesome, Hasselbeck

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Pennington got totally raped. 1 INT, 6 fumbles 2 lost.

Saints are about to win in Carolina. Crazy.

[Fubar28]

Goddamn, Denver is getting destroyed by the heat. Champ Bailey, Lenny Walls AND Darrent Williams are out, Walls and Williams from cramps. So now they've got rookies and a SAFETY playing corner

I thought Jason Taylor was dead after that fumble recovery. I have been to a few games in Miami in Sept. the heat is incredible in the stands let alone how bad it is on the field.

For all those who think the colts are going to the superbowl. I have said for several years that the colts will never win a superbowl with Peyton Manning.

[Nervous Ferret]

yeah the only thing that will save my day is a Giants loss and a fantasy football win over MMM

LOL we're going to be the two lowest scoring teams in the league, but one of us will get the win :heart:

[RP]

I thought Jason Taylor was dead after that fumble recovery. I have been to a few games in Miami in Sept. the heat is incredible in the stands let alone how bad it is on the field.

For all those who think the colts are going to the superbowl. I have said for several years that the colts will never will a superbowl with Payton Manning.


But could they win a superbowl with Peyton Manning?:roll:

[RP]

yeah the only thing that will save my day is a Giants loss and a fantasy football win over MMM

LOL we're going to be the two lowest scoring teams in the league, but one of us will get the win :heart:


I need a huge game from Reggie Wayne since Andre Johnson decided not to show up today.

[Fubar28]

But could they win a superbowl with Peyton Manning?:roll:

Not with that inbreed either.

[FearedSanctity]

I need a huge game from Reggie Wayne since Andre Johnson decided not to show up today.

He must've been out somewhere with the entire Broncos team

[BCWWF]

Wow, we didn't get the game, but just wow. I guess losing right away is better then winning six, losing six, and sputtering in the playoffs at 500. Starting something new.

[Nervous Ferret]

nice play Dansby

[Nervous Ferret]

nice play Dansby

[Nervous Ferret]

x2

[RoXer]

Dansby, right place right time for the 2nd time.

[RoXer]

I'm calling dibs for him on my fantasy team.

[Nervous Ferret]

Bertrand Berry

[RP]

Saints winning.:y: :yes:

[OssMan]

JACOBS TD

[OssMan]

NY GIANTSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Nervous Ferret]

Cardinals bettur win on account of it looks like MMM is gunna beat me

[Nervous Ferret]

niceee throw Warner

[OssMan]

WILSON
BARBER
TOUCHDOWNNNNNNNN

[OssMan]

TIKI BARBER AND BRANDON JACOBS
THUNDER AND LIGHTING #2

[OssMan]

OH dp. Strahan

[Nervous Ferret]

Larrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Nervous Ferret]

gay

[The Miz]

lol @ Rams. I picked them in Survival though :o

[Nervous Ferret]

fuck i picked the Cards in Survival I think. dont remember

[BCWWF]

Lol @ the Rams and all of my neighbors

[Nervous Ferret]

gonzo is gunna be all "yeah Giants rule. gunna be 10-6". gunna laugh when they end up 5-11

[LoDownM]

I would jus tlike to say. Take that Jets.

Now I just hope SD lose's this game, then KC will be the only team with a win in the division :cool:

[BCWWF]

Two of my roommates are KC, two STL, and one MN. St. Louis fans are so gay, thats why it makes it even better for them to lose to the 49ers, it makes us not look so bad.

[road doggy dogg]

DETROIT WHAT

On top of the NFC North, gonna have an even bigger lead after thrashing Chicago next week :cool:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Rams have a chance to win.

Anyone see the hit on Fitzgerald just. Knocked his damn helmet off :cool:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

LOL oh shit interception 49ers. Damn that's harsh.

[OssMan]

49er won. i am out of survival league. fuck me

[SammyG]

FUCK FUCK FUCKITY FUCK FUCK, FUCK. FUUUUUUUUCK.

[VonErich Lives]

Week 1, as usual little makes sense.

Takes a few weeks for things to "shake out" and see who is for real and who isn't.

RP - as for the "yahoo experts" dunno, read the bio on a few of those guys, I question the term "expert". But yeah, everyone is picking the colts the pats, the eagles and the panthers. Seem to be the top 4, I've seen a few pick the Falcons also.

Dunno, I always like when people don't pick the Pats... (plus, helps the spread if I want to bet on them!) :)

[SammyG]

Did the niners actually look good today? Or where the rams horrible? Im in greece so i cant watch the games or highlights, so can someone fill me in?

[OssMan]

Dunno how they looked overall but the ony guy made a pretty smart move at the end getting the pick. It bounched off of someone else and he moved over and grabbed it.

[SammyG]

im still tryin to recover from the fact that the 49ERS JUST BEAT THE RAMS. HOLY FUCKING SHIT, HOW PATHETIC.

[RoXer]

What the fuck happened there? I turn off the TV at halftime and the gay assGiants scored 21 points in like 6 minutes.

[road doggy dogg]

You know, as tired as I am hearing about the Colts every 3 minutes here and on TV and on the 'net and shit... Freeney is insane. Like while watching the game, I've just been watching him every play, and the guy never takes a play off, and he always gets involved. Crazy... like that last play he just totally drilled Lewis and nobody could do anything about it. Gdamn

[Zen v.W.o.]

And the Giants cruise, just as I suspected. They are unstoppable.

Shockey is a beast.

Jets suck, Niners are cool, Bills are back, life is good.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Just got back from the Giants game about a half hour ago

Opening day = fucking incredible crowd

Next week gonna be a lot tougher, since the Saints are obviously > Cards...but I can't wait.....gotta love Coughlin, actually giving a shit about the special teams unlike Fassel....and look what happens</font> :cool:

[AareDub]

Crazy ass opening day. Did HORRIBLE in the pick em league.

On a semi-related note, how fucking awful were the Packers today? Favre was like 22/50 or some shit like that. I'm ashamed to be a pack fan today. Also are those the Lions' new uniforms, or are they like an alternate one or something.

[RoXer]

And why was Buffalo wearing throwbacks on Week 1?

[Innovator]

1-0

GO BIG BLUE

[Jerichoholic]

Cowboys :love:

[Loose Cannon]

the fuck happened

[Nervous Ferret]

eh they hit us hard and early. and Chad fumbled 6 times :rant: a lot of missed catches, but mainly their offensive line dominated us. and madone, Curtis coldnt do shit.

and the Giants beat the Cardinals, :roll: everybody around here is making superbowl plans already.

[Nervous Ferret]

but I give the Chefs credit, they outplayed us in every aspect.

[DegenerationY]

The Rams were running all over the Niners in the first quarter, but after that, the Niners OWNED on defense. They came up with so many huge stops, it was unbelieable. Plus, the Niners O and Special Teams were solid.

LOL @ all the trick plays... they were coming up with a lot of off key shit to keep the Rams on their toes and it paid off.

The Niners won't be playoff material, but like i've said before, they're not going to be as bad as everybody thinks...

Too bad about their loss next week though.

[el fregadero]

God, I have to either watch the boring Jax/Sea or Den/Mia game. Both are terrible at the moment.
We had Bears/Redskins here. :-\

[Ninti the Mad]

LOL Cowboys won

[Lotus]

Fucking Culpepper played like a piece of shit. Well, Raiders lost, and the Falcons play tomorrow. And the Saints will win the Super Bowl this year because of Hurricane Katrina. Or at least do really fucking good.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

The Rams were running all over the Niners in the first quarter, but after that, the Niners OWNED on defense. They came up with so many huge stops, it was unbelieable. Plus, the Niners O and Special Teams were solid.

LOL @ all the trick plays... they were coming up with a lot of off key shit to keep the Rams on their toes and it paid off.

The Niners won't be playoff material, but like i've said before, they're not going to be as bad as everybody thinks...

Too bad about their loss next week though.

lol yes didn't they take an onside kick in like the 2nd quarter or something?

[RP]

I'm not saying the Ravens are some offensive juggernaught here, but our defense tonight, played like they are capable of. That was amazing. When our D puts it together, they can stop anyone. There speed might be better then anyone in the league. Gary Brackett ( WOW ) This guy is so undersized at the linebacker position , but the reason he's starting there is because he can read passing lanes and he's brilliant in zone blitz coverage. He has amazing hands too. Cato June was awesome. He's usually hit and miss, tonight he was a huge hit. Our defensive line just pretty much dominated the game. Freeney pretty much sure up his status as best DE in the game. He dominated Jonathan Ogden. Ogden was so flustared he started jumping offsides.

Couple of things that kind of pissed me off...

1) ( this didnt piss me off , but... ) Why didnt Billick run the ball more ? I didnt check the stats , but it seemed like they were passing 75% of the time. Thats retarded considering our weakness is run defense. Simon isnt fully in game shape and they could have taken advantage. That didnt make much sense at all. They basically let our speed be a factor by not running the ball. I doubt they would have had a choice but still.

2) Billeck calling timeouts with 1:20 left in the game when the Colts were trying to down the ball and finish the game. As if they would have won? That was just stupid. I sat there and said " I hope Manning just drop backs and throws the fly route to Harrison because of that shit. I didnt think it would happen because Dungy is pretty conservative about those things. Sure enough Manning dropped back and threw it to the endzone for Marvin. I wish he would have gotten it =(

Brilliant game all around for Indy. They havent beaten the best ( Pats ), but they sure look like the best.

[RP]

Ok i'm a bit excited. I understand it was just one game and the defense needs to show some consistancy , but still. I'm excited.

[Jerichoholic]

Random Cowboys thought.

Patrick Crayton should hopefully have ridiculous year for the Cowboys, because he is going to be a stud receiver that will be covered by third/fourth string Cornerbacks. If dallas' O'line can hold up a little better in weeks to come, this offense is going to be amazing.

[VonErich Lives]

I'm not saying the Ravens are some offensive juggernaught here, .


Ok, stop right there.

They have one of the worst QB's in the league, till he got injured, Then you geta guy who backups one of the worst QB's in the league.

I was suprised the Colts didn't do more in the first half, but impressed with the ability to change game plans at half time.

So, any JETS fans have details about Jonathan Vilma getting punched by a team mate on the sideline?

[VonErich Lives]

and RP - before you think I'm just trying to bring you down, I wasn't thrilled with the Pats win.

The DL looked great and the LB looked better then expected. However, Eugene Wilson had a brain cramp all game, Tyrone Poole looked like a top being spun, and OL looked good, but Dillon couldn't seem to hit the holes and while Oakland had a big DL they're probably the slowest in the league and the lack of ability to run on the outside was baffaling.

Honestly, a Carolina win next week wouldn't shock me. If they play the same they did last week.

[Gonzo]

eh they hit us hard and early. and Chad fumbled 6 times :rant: a lot of missed catches, but mainly their offensive line dominated us. and madone, Curtis coldnt do shit.

and the Giants beat the Cardinals, :roll: everybody around here is making superbowl plans already.

lol shh. I never said the Giants were going to be 10-6. I said at best 8-8, hoping for that in fact. A snowball's chance in hell they even push for a wildcard. It is, after all the Cardinals. You can look back at any NFL thread and see that I've been saying this all along.

Also, Big Vito, I went to this game too and I agree, the crowd was fucking awesome. Games are so much better in person. Seeing the KR and PR and all that was fucking sweet.

[RP]

and RP - before you think I'm just trying to bring you down, I wasn't thrilled with the Pats win.



Nope just think you misunderstand me sometimes. I was talking more along the lines of Jamal lewis and the O line. Because run defense is our weakness ( hopefully was ) and usually when a team runs the ball on us, they're qb looks brilliant. No matter who it was. Last night we just disrupted everything with our speed .

I was impressed with the Pats win. I thought the whey they adjusted in the second half was amazing. Collins and Moss went from looking unstoppable to looking like shit in the second half.

[Gonzo]

Also, I don't think Chad Pennington is that great of a QB. I was also shocked by Miami, Tampa Bay and San Francisco, all fucked me over hardcore in Pick 'Em.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Hard to say how much of Miami's win was their good play or Denver's complete no-show.

[RP]

I wasnt shocked at TB. I kinda wasnt shocked by Miami. Denver is so inconsistant. 49ers winning just flat out boggles me. The rams looked like they were gunna be so good.

[Gonzo]

Any given Sunday.

[Rain Man]

Games were nuts yesterday. Still can't believe the Dallas, Miami, and Tampa Bay scores. Too early to tell anything. Dallas will not last, Bledsoe finally had a decent game. Nothing special at all just so many people expected him to fuck up and you know he eventually will just start throwing those INT's.

EAGLES ON IN 3 HOURS AND 40 MINUTES BABY!!! FLY EAGLES FLYYYYY!!!

[Rain Man]

Don't know if posted yet.. Jevon Walker out for season (torn ACL), Kris Jenkins out for season (torn ACL), and Kyle Boller (turf toe:lol:) It doesn't matter about Boller, Wright is better. Both Walker and Jenkins out for the season are two odvious huge losses for the Packers and Panthers.

[VonErich Lives]

Also, I don't think Chad Pennington is that great of a QB. I was also shocked by Miami, Tampa Bay and San Francisco, all fucked me over hardcore in Pick 'Em.

Dunno, I'd say SF shocked me the most, but didn't they get killed in stats but simply managed to find the endzone more? (haven't looked, thought I heard that on the radio).

Miami doesn't suprise me, they still have (a little older) that good/fast defense. They have good depth at WR and a solid TE, now they'll have probably 2 good RB's. The biggest thing that they never had was a QB, maybe they found one for now?

SF was more of a fluke I'd say.

Tampa also has a decent team, running game looks like it could be strong.

[OssMan]

FLY, EAGLES, FLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rain Man]

NEW SIG

[DrA]

Yes, I believe everyone knows that you like the Eagles by now.

[The Miz]

One is a mindset. One is the collective breath taken by the fans as the game winning field goal is kicked. One is having faith. One is knowing that when the game clock reaches One second there will be only One winner. One is 4th and 26, it's One play with One result, yet One more win. One is what you live for, because Two doesn't cut it. One is excitement. One is breathtaking. One is upon us because their can only be One winner in Jacksonville.
one team.one city.one dream

[The Miz]

(the pats won btw)

[Loose Cannon]

One is a mindset. One is the collective breath taken by the fans as the game winning field goal is kicked. One is having faith. One is knowing that when the game clock reaches One second there will be only One winner. One is 4th and 26, it's One play with One result, yet One more win. One is what you live for, because Two doesn't cut it. One is excitement. One is breathtaking. One is upon us because their can only be One winner in Jacksonville.
one team.one city.one dream


ROFL

[RP]

Thats sucks for Javon Walker.He might never get his long term deal =(

[OssMan]

Remeber that time T.O spiked the ball on the Cowboy Star and Roy Williams knocked him over

[RP]

Remeber that time T.O spiked the ball on the Cowboy Star and Roy Williams knocked him over


No i dont. I remember when George Teague blasted him though.

[Rain Man]

WTF TROTTER JUST GOT EJECTED FROM THE GAME!:rant: :rant: :rant: :mad: :foc:

[Rain Man]

Remember the time Roy Williams was a bitch and ripped TO down by his back pad.. Cause I do

[Gonzo]

How is that bitch? He tackled him. I didn't know it was bitch to tackle someone a certain way? Give me a fucking break. :roll:

[FearedSanctity]

HOW DARE ROY WILLIAMS DO HIS JOB

[Rain Man]

Roy Williams=PUSSY I'll say it to his face

[Rain Man]

Anyone seeing this pre-game!! This is nuts!! You see the two teams at mid field jumping around Holy Shit the atmostphere must be nuts there

[FearedSanctity]

Roy Williams=PUSSY I'll say it to his face

And I'll watch you get knocked the fuck out at the same time

Yeah, the pre-game is pretty entertaining though. Can only hope the game is as intense as pre-game

[RP]

Anyone seeing this pre-game!! This is nuts!! You see the two teams at mid field jumping around Holy Shit the atmostphere must be nuts there


Yah they are ejected. Trotter and Mathis.

[Rain Man]

Everybody loves Rain Man

[RP]

Cocaine failed me miserably. Michael Irvin is still alive.:nono:

[RP]

They should just call it " The Michael Irvin Pre Game show ". Its not like anyone else gets to have an opinion on the show. If they do, its usually interupted with a horrible Michael Irvin opinion.

[RP]

Why did they eject them? It was just a scuffle. God damn. I didnt see any punched. I saw pushing and grabbing face masks. Thats just stupid. This is monday night football. They are fired up. Let them play like men.

[RP]

I rather watch 4 hours of " boohyahs" , then watch Michael Irvin for 5 minutes .

[RP]

I love watching T.O on monday nights.

[Rain Man]

Michael Irvin is a very bad announcer.. But he is a T.O. fan!:y:

[FearedSanctity]

I remember a few years ago when Rod Smith accidently punched a ref on MNF against Oakland :lol:

[Gonzo]

Rain Man you're stupid as hell.

[Rain Man]

B-Dawk Interception baby.. God damn penalties first drive.. Gonzo I know

[Gonzo]

Vick shouldn't hold the ball out like that.

[The Outlaw]

So why did Trotter get ejected? Grabbing the guy's facemask? :-\

LOL @ Green Bay/Minnesota

[BCWWF]

Yeah we got Bears and Skins too, why don't they give us Vikings! If I was watching we probably would have won.

[el fregadero]

Michael Irvin does spectacular work for ESPN, fellas.

[MoRcHeEbA]

E-A-G-L-E-S

[Boomer]

Suck it?

[Lotus]

Falcons 14, Eagles 10

:cool:

[Sepholio]

WOOO FALCONS!!! I love it when my team wins, especially a win against the defending NFC champs in their season opener. Maybe Atlanta will finally bring home a championship this year,

Either way, great game, especially on the defensive side of the ball. Both teams really gave it a go tonight, great way to kick off another season of Monday Night Football.

[AareDub]

Well I did horribly in the Pick Em league, but in the tie-breaker section I called the score for MNF exactly. Falcons win 14-10 :)

[RP]

I didnt pretty good in pickem.

[RP]

Whats up with Atlanta celebrating like they just won the Superbowl? Vick was like " Yah we silenced the critics " ...ok.

[Boomer]

We don't beat the Eagles. Ever. Let alone cover up Owens well enough not to score with a 2nd year player.

[Gertner]

The Pats are so amazing. Chock up anthoer super bowl boys

[Y2Ant]

T.O got burned by Deangelo Hall :(

[BCWWF]

Atlanta was impressive last night. They weren't as good as their record stated last year, they played the easiest schedule in the league, but this year I think they added the players to win that many games legitimately. That being said, they don't seem to have the demeanor to win again if they play again. Overconfidence.

[The Miz]

E-A-G-L-E-S

[Rain Man]

Sons of Bitches.. First game of the season no worries. Not making excuses at all but loosing Trotter hurt the Eagles. TO had like 117 yards catching I mean yeahhe didnt have a touchdown but he was never shut down totally.

[RP]

He got shut down.

[road doggy dogg]

What the fuck are you talking about? 7 catches for 117 yards isn't "shut down" to me.

[RP]

He got 7 catches because they threw at him damn near 15 times. Hall shut him down. Kept him out of the endzone. Kept him from making big game changing plays. He was shut down. Plain and simple.

[OssMan]

I love it when my team winssame

[Mr. Monday Morning]

He got 7 catches because they threw at him damn near 15 times. Hall shut him down. Kept him out of the endzone. Kept him from making big game changing plays. He was shut down. Plain and simple.

That's containment. Getting over 100 yards is nothing like a shut down.

[RP]

Shut down! He should retire.

[The Outlaw]

TO tore Deangelo up. Thanks Kevin Mathis for the win.

[Boomer]

Yeah I don't agree that Hall shut TO down. 100 yards+ isn't even close to shut down.

But how can you? He's the best for a reason.

But Hall played him correctly. And I bet you that caught the Eagles off guard.

And yeah. Mathis probably put that in his game plans.

[OssMan]

ROFL Patrick Ramsey wants a trade

[VonErich Lives]

Whats up with Atlanta celebrating like they just won the Superbowl? Vick was like " Yah we silenced the critics " ...ok.

I'll remember this is the Colts beat the pats.


He got shut down.

Being a blind homer is one thing, but now you're just being stupid. Sorry, I try not to make these personal, but how the hell can you say TO was shut down, that's just stupid.

TO tore Deangelo up. Thanks Kevin Mathis for the win.

No, thank Trotter for being an idiot who let his team down in a game that could come back to decide home field for a rematch in the NFC championship.

I don't care if he told Trotter his mother was a sperm burping whore who was in the locker room before the game taking it up the ass for ring dings.

You have to know someone is trying to get to you, you have to let it go, what Trotter did was just plain stupid.

I did love Laurie trying to argue it should just be a penatly since it was "pre-game steam".

Bonus to the Refs for looking at tape to see who did and didn't throw a punch before making the ejections official.

[Gonzo]

Didn't look like Trotter threw a punch from what I saw, gotta close your fist to do that. He did reach to swing, whether to slap or grab the face mask etc. I don't really care because I hate the Eagles no matter which way you slice it.

[OssMan]

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE IN LAST PLACE EAGLES

[Gonzo]

:lol: The whole Chiefs team is going to be in prison by the end of the year.

[RP]

[QUOTE=VonErich Lives]I'll remember this is the Colts beat the pats.




Being a blind homer is one thing, but now you're just being stupid. Sorry, I try not to make these personal, but how the hell can you say TO was shut down, that's just stupid.



[QUOTE]

Its called giving eagles fans a hard time. I dont believe he " Shut him down" totally, but he did " Shut him down" in the sense that its TO and TO is about the only weapon they have at WR. They threw to TO about 12 times and TO had 7 catches for a 100+ yards and NO TOUCHDOWNS and Hall picked one of the passes. Maybe Hall didnt completely shut him down in the sense that he didnt get any stats, but Hall clearly out played him. If you disagree, then you were watching a different game and you are a moron. :yes:


BTW You keep bringing up the Colts Pats as if you want to get me started. I'll just say this. I cant wait til this game. I cant wait til they win and you Patriots fans start bringing up whats happend in the past, giving excuses and excuses as to why the victory doesnt mean shit. You're the one talking shit right now and i cant wait because i'll laugh my ass off if the Pats fail.

[Gonzo]

Lord oh lord. Can't we have discussion instead of shit throwing contests? Anyways, week 1 is in the books, quite a few surprises. Going to have to see how we are shaped up a quarter through the season.

[RP]

No we cant , because everything i say is usually followed with a response from a Patriot fan along the lines of " I'll remember this is the Colts beat the pats." even though its totally has nothing to do with the subject being talked about , which was TO vs Daunte Hall. Ofcourse i'm the person thats talking all the shit according to Patriot fan. Whatever.

[RoXer]

PS, my "team" are the Cowboys. You guys know that right?

I've just jumped on the Cardinal bandwagon as well.

[Gonzo]

Isn't there a Cards fan to poke fun at? :'(

[RP]

I though JR was our dipshit Cards fan.

[Gonzo]

Yeah I dunno. Lives in AZ and I always had the perception he was a Cards fan? Coming out with the Dallas fan remarks after a win? I DON'T KNOW JOEY. :shifty:

[Nervous Ferret]

The Arizona Cardinals will win the NFC West

[MoRcHeEbA]

why do football players through punches at helmets.

[RP]

I woulda went Kyle Turley on that little fuck on the Falcons.

[el fregadero]

That wasn't a punch, it was an open palmed slap.

[RP]

You ready this week El fregadero?

[Y2Ant]

Why can't there be a fellow Vikings/Colts fan on here that isn't a total spaz :(

(Apart from The Outlaw who I love very much <3)

[Crimson]

why do football players through punches at helmets.

Yea it's seems kinda lame. But in the pre season DeAngelo Hall threw a sick combo at some reciever from the 'Skins i think...but even tho he had his helmet on, the punches rocked his head back pretty good lol

[RP]

Why can't there be a fellow Vikings/Colts fan on here that isn't a total spaz :(

(Apart from The Outlaw who I love very much <3)


fuck off

[RP]

nah kidding. I dunn care.:wave:

[The Outlaw]

Why can't there be a fellow Vikings/Colts fan on here that isn't a total spaz :(

(Apart from The Outlaw who I love very much <3)

lol word up

My #1 team obviously is sucking right now. Walker out for the year. Favre looked...not Favre like against the...Lions? Yeah, long year.

HOW BOUT THEM COLTS

[SammyG]

Rams bounce back in the desert.

[VonErich Lives]

I'll remember this is the Colts beat the pats.




Being a blind homer is one thing, but now you're just being stupid. Sorry, I try not to make these personal, but how the hell can you say TO was shut down, that's just stupid.





Its called giving eagles fans a hard time. I dont believe he " Shut him down" totally, but he did " Shut him down" in the sense that its TO and TO is about the only weapon they have at WR. They threw to TO about 12 times and TO had 7 catches for a 100+ yards and NO TOUCHDOWNS and Hall picked one of the passes. Maybe Hall didnt completely shut him down in the sense that he didnt get any stats, but Hall clearly out played him. If you disagree, then you were watching a different game and you are a moron. :yes:


BTW You keep bringing up the Colts Pats as if you want to get me started. I'll just say this. I cant wait til this game. I cant wait til they win and you Patriots fans start bringing up whats happend in the past, giving excuses and excuses as to why the victory doesnt mean shit. You're the one talking shit right now and i cant wait because i'll laugh my ass off if the Pats fail.

1) You really need to practice "quoting".

2) How can someone not be shut down, but be shut down? Hall didn't out play him and didin't shut him down and did you see the Int? It was a horrible throw not a "great play".

3) I'm not trying to get you started I just find it funny that everyone said "no way the Falcons can beat the colts, Vick isn't a real QB, Dunn isn't a top RB etc..." then when they won and Vick said "silenced the critics" you make fun of him, if the Colts beat the Pats you'll celebrate like the won the superbowl.

4) I love how you're already trying to justify why a regular season Colts win is a "big deal". Yeah, if the Colts win they will be what, 6-1 in the last 3.5 years? Yeah, if the Colts win the Pats fans won't really think it matters, the regular season you just need to make the playoffs, want to prove something? Beat the Pats in the playoffs. It's like some Sox fans who felt beating the Yanks in the ALCS was better then a WS win. That was complete CRAP! If the Sox beat the Yanks and then lost to STL it wouldn't have been the same. If the Colts beat the Pats in the Regular season and then loose in the playoffs, or don't make the SB, etc... then what have you really accomplished? As already seen, you're thinking about a regular season game that's 2-3 months away, we take 1 game at a time, don't expect to win them all, and know the playoffs seperates the champs from the "wanna be's"

5) Here's your crying towel.

[RP]

BTW You keep bringing up the Colts Pats as if you want to get me started. I'll just say this. I cant wait til this game. I cant wait til they win and you Patriots fans start bringing up whats happend in the past, giving excuses and excuses as to why the victory doesnt mean shit. You're the one talking shit right now and i cant wait because i'll laugh my ass off if the Pats fail.







1) You really need to practice "quoting".

2) How can someone not be shut down, but be shut down? Hall didn't out play him and didin't shut him down and did you see the Int? It was a horrible throw not a "great play".

He kept him out of the endzone and defended every pass to the best of his ability, despite having to do it about 12-14 times ( not sure how many ) because that was basically philly's only deep threat. Hall out played him. I used the term " Shut down" as a way to break some Eagles balls?

3) I'm not trying to get you started I just find it funny that everyone said "no way the Falcons can beat the colts, Vick isn't a real QB, Dunn isn't a top RB etc..." then when they won and Vick said "silenced the critics" you make fun of him, if the Colts beat the Pats you'll celebrate like the won the superbowl.

The Falcons still havent beaten the Colts...:wtf: . I'll celebrate a victory over the Pats in the regular season like it was a regular season vicroty, but ofcourse i will point out all the shit you talk about the past and how Manning cant win the big game and Manning cant be Belichek and ofcourse i'll laugh. Then you will probably come in here and talk about the past couple of seasons reguardless as if it means anything

4) I love how you're already trying to justify why a regular season Colts win is a "big deal". Yeah, if the Colts win they will be what, 6-1 in the last 3.5 years? Yeah, if the Colts win the Pats fans won't really think it matters, the regular season you just need to make the playoffs, want to prove something? Beat the Pats in the playoffs. It's like some Sox fans who felt beating the Yanks in the ALCS was better then a WS win. That was complete CRAP! If the Sox beat the Yanks and then lost to STL it wouldn't have been the same. If the Colts beat the Pats in the Regular season and then loose in the playoffs, or don't make the SB, etc... then what have you really accomplished? As already seen, you're thinking about a regular season game that's 2-3 months away, we take 1 game at a time, don't expect to win them all, and know the playoffs seperates the champs from the "wanna be's"

I guess i spoke too soon. They havent even played the game and already you are referancing things that have happened in the past. I'll go ahead and accept this as your loser speech

5) Here's your crying towel.


Only tears of joy and laughter.

[Gonzo]

Can everyone just shut the fuck up and not have dick measuring contests for once? 75% of this thread and all NFL threads end up being about the Colts or the Colts vs. the Patriots etc etc.

[Nervous Ferret]

Hey Bob Sanders and Corey Simon will be pro-BowlerS!!!

[Gonzo]

Yeah, Colts backup punter should really put them over the hump this year. :roll:

[RoXer]

Nah really, always loved the Cowboys since I was a kid. Even when I moved here, I didn't like the Cardinals. Jumped on the bandwagon last year though.

THE ARIZONA CARDINALS WILL WIN THE NFC WEST though.

[road doggy dogg]

Can everyone just shut the fuck up and not have dick measuring contests for once? 75% of this thread and all NFL threads end up being about the Colts or the Colts vs. the Patriots etc etc.

What the fuck were you expecting? What is the point of having an NFL thread with no shit-talking? That's basically WHY this thread exists.

[RoXer]

The Cardinals will beat the Colts. And Patriots. Don't worry about it.

[Gonzo]

What the fuck were you expecting? What is the point of having an NFL thread with no shit-talking? That's basically WHY this thread exists.


Nonono, thats not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the daily bullshit between Colts and Patriots fans. Its not even an NFL thread, its a fucking Colts/Patriots discussion thread.

[road doggy dogg]

Oh, that, yeah, that gets annoying. I've kind of programmed myself to mentally skip over all VEL posts anyway so it's not that bad

[RP]

Yeah, Colts backup punter should really put them over the hump this year. :roll:


What? We have Hunter The Punter! :kiss:

[Lotus]

Shane Lechler is better than Hunter Smith :kiss:

[RP]

Shane Lechler is better than Hunter Smith :kiss:


Dont fuck with Hunter the Punter. He'll fuck you up in the head.

[Lotus]

Don't fuck with Shane. He'll coffin corner your ass

[RP]

Do you even know who Hunter the Punter rolls with?

[RP]

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/players/3/4525.jpg

[Lotus]

http://www.footballscans.com/shanelechler.jpg

That one is going 50 at least

[RP]

feet

[RP]

And it will most likely get called back on a penalty. It is the Raiders you know.

[el fregadero]

You ready this week El fregadero?
Yes.

[el fregadero]

lol word up

My #1 team obviously is sucking right now. Walker out for the year. Favre looked...not Favre like against the...Lions? Yeah, long year.

HOW BOUT THEM COLTS
Don't underestimate the Lions. I've got a good feeling about them this year. Especially since the North isn't looking too hot.

[RP]

Yes.


Should be a good one. Jags always give us great games.

[el fregadero]

Just once I'd like to see a blowout.

[el fregadero]

I'll probably get Chiefs against the Redskins or some shit though.

[RP]

Just once I'd like to see a blowout.


Maybe next year buddy.:wave:

[Lotus]

And it will most likely get called back on a penalty. It is the Raiders you know.

Tu shay, tu shay...

[RP]

O yah one more thing before i go to bed. I didnt see Trotter throw a punch. I saw Mathis come up and shove him and Trotter kind of did the same thing as soon as Mathis shoved him.

Eagles got fucked on that .

[VonErich Lives]

Oh, that, yeah, that gets annoying. I've kind of programmed myself to mentally skip over all VEL posts anyway so it's not that bad



Yeah, kinda like the league has programmed themselves to mentally skip over the Lions till they get a real QB :p

[VonErich Lives]

RP - is using quotes really that hard?

Anyway, yeah, if they win it's a regular season win and makes them 6-1? Of course, the past doesn't count twords the current season, but the "Manning can win big games", mid season? regular season? It will be a step up, but he's won some of those before, seriously, if the Colts beat the Pats in the regular season, but don't make the superbowl does that make Manning a "big game QB"?

Really, you're the guy who posted a thread about a regular season game 3months away...

If the Colts beat the Pats I'll give manning the recongition for that game, but that's it, you seem to feel if they win that game it somehow = 3 superbowl rings.

Also, as I've said, I'd like to see Manning win one at somepoint, I'd rather not see him called "Marino" all his life.

[RP]

RP - is using quotes really that hard?

Anyway, yeah, if they win it's a regular season win and makes them 6-1? Of course, the past doesn't count twords the current season, but the "Manning can win big games", mid season? regular season? It will be a step up, but he's won some of those before, seriously, if the Colts beat the Pats in the regular season, but don't make the superbowl does that make Manning a "big game QB"?

Really, you're the guy who posted a thread about a regular season game 3months away...

If the Colts beat the Pats I'll give manning the recongition for that game, but that's it, you seem to feel if they win that game it somehow = 3 superbowl rings.

Also, as I've said, I'd like to see Manning win one at somepoint, I'd rather not see him called "Marino" all his life.


Using the superbowl as a measuring stick for big game QB's is really just plain stupid. If we use that logic then we have 2 " Big Game " QB's in the past 4 years. 1) Tom Brady ( No doubt ) 2) Brad Johnson :|

Everyone is like " Ohhhhh Manning cant win the big game " STFU. How many QB's have won the big game in the past 6 years. Brady, Johnson, Dilfer, and Warner? Wow if we are gunna judge Manning on winning the big game and knock Manning as much as he gets knocked in the media for not winning that " Big Game" then i'd hate to see what people say about the other 27 starting QB's in the league right now. Oh thats right no one says anything about them . The " Big Game " argument is so old and played out.

Manning is ( 29?) years old. He's got so much career ahead of him. Tom Brady was fucking fortunate. He's a great QB and he got placed in a greater situation and he's reaping the benifit. Manning is better and when he gets the ring. There wont be any argument about it. If you dont think so... Let me put this in perspective for you.

Tom brady has 3 rings. Brett Farve has 1. Whos the better QB when its all said and done? How much better will Manning be when he gets a ring?

This isnt even about Manning vs Brady. Its about the teams. The facts are this. Manning hasnt had a defense to make crucial stops in big games like AFC championship games. He's been forced to make shit happen on his own and 90% of his career. He's made the shit happen. He played bad snow,sleet, and shitty field conditions. Against a great defense and without the luxury of a decent defense to make plays agasint the Patriots. You wanna hang your hat on that and toot your horn. Be my guest. Hey you have the rings. You're well withing your right, but dont be knocking Peyton Manning for not winning the big game , because he lost to a overall better team. This year. I truely believe we have the better team and i'll say it here. Theres no excuses. We should go to the Superbowl reguardless of who we play and how good they are because we are better.

And yes if we beat you in the regular season or if we beat you in the playoffs or both, I will be very happy. The Patriots are the measuring stick of the league not just the Colts. Thats what comes with being the champs. Every team in the league wants to beat you. Only a couple have what it takes to beat you and the Colts are one of them. So the regular season game means alot. Maybe not to New England, but to the Colts. It could possibly mean home field advantage for when we could possibly meet the second time. No one including the Colts wants to play New England in the shit hole in December. Thats why November 7th means so much.

One game. One night to make a statement that we are better. Its not guaranteed that we see you in the playoffs. Just because this game means so much doesnt mean the ultimate goal is not the SUperbowl. If you seriously think that, then you have problems. Everyones goal is the superbowl , but also for the short term. The Colts wanna beat the Patriots and silence the critics on whos the best.

This is a Huge game for Peyton Manning and the team. Lets not single out Manning because he's the star. This is a team game.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

This is a Huge game for Peyton Manning and the team. Lets not single out Manning because he's the star. This is a team game.

That's about the first thing you've ever said I completely agree with. If the Colts beat the Pats it'll be because the team played better, not because Manning threw for a gazillion yards.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

TO tore Deangelo up. Thanks Kevin Mathis for the win.

FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. (AP) -- Atlanta Falcons cornerback Kevin Mathis is out for the season after tearing up his left knee in practice.

Mathis, a nine year-veteran, is 31 and faces a long rehabilitation, raising the possibility his career could be over.

He went down on a routine drill Wednesday, two days after he was ejected from the season opener against Philadelphia before the game even started.

During the first practice for Sunday's game at Seattle, Mathis was covering a receiver down the sideline, went up to knock away a pass and came down awkwardly. He was carried off on a cart, and an MRI showed severe damage.

The team said Thursday that Mathis tore both his anterior cruciate and lateral collateral ligaments, and also damaged the posterior capsule.

------

Ouch. Dunno, is that karma or something.

[Boomer]

We don't need him.

[BCWWF]

In response to that one up there, the Colts and Pats are the two best teams in the league as of right now, they are rivals, and we have people from each side. I'd expect it.

[The Outlaw]

Yeah the North is pretty shittacular. I wouldn't mind seeing the Lions go far though.

Also, Lane Bearden would murder any punter in the league.

[DaveWadding]

Rams bounce back in the desert.

Please die.

[Gonzo]

Jeff Feagles. :heart:

[VonErich Lives]

Using the superbowl as a measuring stick for big game QB's is really just plain stupid. If we use that logic then we have 2 " Big Game " QB's in the past 4 years. 1) Tom Brady ( No doubt ) 2) Brad Johnson :|

Everyone is like " Ohhhhh Manning cant win the big game " STFU. How many QB's have won the big game in the past 6 years. Brady, Johnson, Dilfer, and Warner? Wow if we are gunna judge Manning on winning the big game and knock Manning as much as he gets knocked in the media for not winning that " Big Game" then i'd hate to see what people say about the other 27 starting QB's in the league right now. Oh thats right no one says anything about them . The " Big Game " argument is so old and played out.

Manning is ( 29?) years old. He's got so much career ahead of him. Tom Brady was fucking fortunate. He's a great QB and he got placed in a greater situation and he's reaping the benifit. Manning is better and when he gets the ring. There wont be any argument about it. If you dont think so... Let me put this in perspective for you.

Tom brady has 3 rings. Brett Farve has 1. Whos the better QB when its all said and done? How much better will Manning be when he gets a ring?

This isnt even about Manning vs Brady. Its about the teams. The facts are this. Manning hasnt had a defense to make crucial stops in big games like AFC championship games. He's been forced to make shit happen on his own and 90% of his career. He's made the shit happen. He played bad snow,sleet, and shitty field conditions. Against a great defense and without the luxury of a decent defense to make plays agasint the Patriots. You wanna hang your hat on that and toot your horn. Be my guest. Hey you have the rings. You're well withing your right, but dont be knocking Peyton Manning for not winning the big game , because he lost to a overall better team. This year. I truely believe we have the better team and i'll say it here. Theres no excuses. We should go to the Superbowl reguardless of who we play and how good they are because we are better.

And yes if we beat you in the regular season or if we beat you in the playoffs or both, I will be very happy. The Patriots are the measuring stick of the league not just the Colts. Thats what comes with being the champs. Every team in the league wants to beat you. Only a couple have what it takes to beat you and the Colts are one of them. So the regular season game means alot. Maybe not to New England, but to the Colts. It could possibly mean home field advantage for when we could possibly meet the second time. No one including the Colts wants to play New England in the shit hole in December. Thats why November 7th means so much.

One game. One night to make a statement that we are better. Its not guaranteed that we see you in the playoffs. Just because this game means so much doesnt mean the ultimate goal is not the SUperbowl. If you seriously think that, then you have problems. Everyones goal is the superbowl , but also for the short term. The Colts wanna beat the Patriots and silence the critics on whos the best.

This is a Huge game for Peyton Manning and the team. Lets not single out Manning because he's the star. This is a team game.

Why can't there be a fellow Vikings/Colts fan on here that isn't a total spaz :(

(Apart from The Outlaw who I love very much <3)


Anyway, I didn't read your whole thing, it's getting painful, because I don't think you're really this clueless, I just think you're thinking with your heart instead of your brain.

I will say this, it will be a team win if the Colts win, same for any nfl team, that being said what I find funny is if you look back, the Defense has done a decent job against the Patriots, it's typically been the OFFENSE that came up short or was simply "out played".

Oh, and as for the "shit hole" this ain't basketball, it's football, it's played out doors in all kinds of weather. that's why I've never understood why teams bild domes, might it help them 8games a year, sure... but come the playoffs they go outside and tend to choke. Plenty of teams have come up in the snow/rain/cold and played well, even in a loss, heck think NE is bad, try an AFC championship game in Buffallo.

Anyway, RP, we can pick this up again in November. I hope both teams stay healthy, I don't want either team to say "well, if we had". Although the Pats haven't seem to been very effected by the big injuries over the years, I think the one that would truely take them out would be Brady.

On a side note, it's funny how we talk about "the past", everyone has been asking the Pats about their "rematch" with Carolina and the Pats just kinda look at the reporter funny, on the flip side the Panthers keep talking about it. Heck the year after that SB the Pats played Carolina in pre-season and the fans had "rematch" shirts... lmfao...

Pats and Colts both have good teams, but don't count out the Falcons, Eagles, Panthers, Steelers, and many more.

[Rain Man]

Jeff Feagles. :heart:
GOT JACKED UP! Everytime I hear his name I think of that shot he took by Trotter

[Gonzo]

LOL. He is a piece of shit for that. The punter was such a danger to lay the lumber on the return man. :roll: Did he ever get fined for that? If not he should have. Who the fuck puts a huge hit on a punter and thinks they are a badass?

[Rain Man]

I know that was totally unecessary.. But funny as hell

[BCWWF]

After the Vikings lost and Detroit was the only team that looked good on Sunday, would you say the NFC North is worse then the NFC West? I obviously think the Vikes loss was more of a fluke and they will still make the playoffs, but do you?

[Gonzo]

Depends on how the Vikes do and how the Packers cope with their loss of Javon Walker. Give it a few more weeks and time will tell.

[MoRcHeEbA]

I know that was totally unecessary.. But funny as hell


word people possibly getting injured is usually pretty funny.

[road doggy dogg]

Depends on how the Vikes do and how the Packers cope with their loss of Javon Walker. Give it a few more weeks and time will tell.

Packers were gonna be shit this season, losing Walker just sealed the deal

[Joey Slugs]

Bears over Lions. This sunday. You heard it here first kids.

[RP]

VEL eat cock. Colts wwill bury the Pasts .

[VonErich Lives]

VEL eat cock. Colts wwill bury the Pasts .


Why can't there be a fellow Vikings/Colts fan on here that isn't a total spaz :(

(Apart from The Outlaw who I love very much <3)

you're funny.

You say how the Colts haven't won because of the lack of defense, yet if you look at the games it's the offense that hasn't performed well.

You say "manning is the best", yet he's won very few big games, it's like saying SD had a great team last year, they were 10-0 against bad teams and 2-4 against good teams, they had a paper record which is why they lost in the first round of the playoffs.

It hasn't been their defense that came up short in those big games, it's been their offense.

Then you think playing in NE is a "shit hole" in December, yeah the weather can be bad, but it's that way a lot of place in December. Dome teams are built for speed on a "fast track" surface and when they hit the road in the playoffs they don't do well. 1 Dome team has ever won the Superbowl, that was Saint Louis and guess what, they won the superbowl in a dome.

But of course, I'll point out stats and facts and you'll come back with a winning argument like.

you suck, and I'm rubber you're glue!

[VonErich Lives]

Hey RP, here's some good reading for you.

Full of stats and facts and makes a better case and explanation then I ever could and had a lot of info I didn't know about

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=139&Category=11

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=261&Category=7

Most if it I knew or didn't suprise me, the one that did jump out at me is that Brady's career QB rating is just 4.5pts behined Manning. Manning is tied for 4th all time, Brady is 6th all time.

[The Outlaw]

So, how bout those Bengals?

Let's get the conversation off of New England/Indy for longer than 5 minutes.