NFL 2005 Season Thread

[VonErich Lives]

How fucking fast is Ben Watson. Geez

I know, imagine that size/speed going 20/30 yds down field against DB's?

It was I'll admit it I marked out like a little bitch when Todd Sauerbraun forced the fumble

Yeah, Hobbs has had a pretty good year for a rookie (3rd round) so I won't crap on him for one time not protecting the ball and a great play by Sauerbraun.

Like Troy Brown, the guy bleeds patriots colors, probably the only time he ever muffed a kick.

[The Miz]

lol, VEL you need a drink. I'm not going to attempt to decipher what the last part was about. But your first sentence, yes Starbucks was founded in Seattle, so what? Is that really the best you can do?

Don't you have some tea to be drinking VEL!

[Skippord]

That was weird on that Troy Brown play I had the worst seats for seeing that play

5th level is freaking high

[VonErich Lives]

lol, VEL you need a drink. I'm not going to attempt to decipher what the last part was about. But your first sentence, yes Starbucks was founded in Seattle, so what? Is that really the best you can do?

Don't you have some tea to be drinking VEL!

Yes, cause Tea was invented in Boston..

whatever you're a waste of time. I'm done, say what you want and just makeup the rest.

[Crimson]

Hooray New England lost!!! bye bye fuckers

[RP]

3 hours later. I've still said nothing bad about the Patriots. Take note.

[VonErich Lives]

Hooray New England lost!!! bye bye fuckers

and your team is?

3 hours later. I've still said nothing bad about the Patriots. Take note.

:kiss:

I say again, this loss really hurts... I really would have rathered them get dominated, instead that pretty much beat themselves... with the exception of that Pass Interferance call, the rest were all turnover the pats made.

The refs did suck tonight, but even if they hadn't blown those calls, the Pats still would have lost with those 5 turnovers.

[Skippord]

LOL my brother saw some guy in a Vinateri Jersey get punched out

[VonErich Lives]

LOL my brother saw some guy in a Vinateri Jersey get punched out

Classy fans you have, trying to be like Philly?

[CNM]

Theres idiots in every stadium

[Skippord]

No, apparently NE guy was challenging our guy to a fight and got knocked out with one punch.Another guy in a bruschi jersey challenged some bronco fan to a fight and then our guy was like come on down then and the guy just sat down

[CNM]

Yeah Pats fans were talking a lot of shit all week. So were their sports talk show hosts apparently. I wish I could hear some of those shows on Monday when those shitheads will have to eat a big old plate of crow.

[Skippord]

I also saw the drunkest man I have ever seen in my life today

[FearedSanctity]

Wish I still lived in Colorado :'(

[Skippord]

Yes,Colorado is teh goodz

[VonErich Lives]

Yeah Pats fans were talking a lot of shit all week. So were their sports talk show hosts apparently. I wish I could hear some of those shows on Monday when those shitheads will have to eat a big old plate of crow.

In all fairness, the Denver station was giving out the Boston stations number, so Boston returned the favor. All in good fun. That the radio guys (both places) jobs, stir controversy, get people to listen, etc...

[AlphaBean]

I love Boston fans.

"Forget the 86 years, it's all about what the Red Sox did this year"

"Forget this year, it's all about what the Patriots did 3 of the last 4 years"


I know, jesus christ, get over it already... the past five years are ANCIENT HISTORY!!!!!!!!!1111111

[AlphaBean]

Who knows, maybe Seattle will finally have something to brag about!

eh...

[AlphaBean]

I'm not denying that a black coach isn't as qualified as a white coach or anything like that. Tony Dungy, Marvin Lewis and Lovie Smith all have shown they know the recipe for success and more power to them. The thing that annoys me about this little rule the NFL has, is that the teams should take it upon themselves to interview a broad range of candidates, rather than being told to do so. I guess thats the world we live in.

I agree that teams SHOULD take it upon themselves, however, I'll bring up my previous point:

Who owns these teams? Are they blacks? Rich blacks may be rich, but they tend to shy away from dropping three quarters of a billion dollars on a football team. And as such, they don't really have the ability to hire black coaches themselves. That leaves people like Red McCombs behind the wheel. And you can tell just by looking at him, he'd love to have a team full of all whites.

My point is, left to their own devices, rich, southern white men aged 65 and older would not hire fairly. It's horseshit, but it's true. And as such, until everyone plays fairly, they need to have their hands held while we get through the dark ages and start to recognize all races as viable.

[VonErich Lives]

Nice to see a team lose with class.

Richard Seymor said something like "Everyone is saying we gave the game away, but that's not giving the Denver Broncos proper credit, they won this game".

I'm rooting for Indy today, cause Pittsburg never shuts up, after that if Indy wins, no idea who I'm rooting for, I'd like to see Manning get a ring, but seeing Denver or Carolina win it all wouldn't bother me either. Don't want to see Seattle win, because Hasselback went to Boston College.

[VonErich Lives]

Hey Supreme, any info on Chad Johnson taking a swing at the coach during half time last week?

[RoXer]

Yes, cause Tea was invented in Boston..

Yeah Miz, YOU IDIOT! :roll:

[RP]

Steelers just did what they wanted to do on that first drive.

[Loose Cannon]

thank you John Madden

[The Miz]

Yes, cause Tea was invented in Boston..

whatever you're a waste of time. I'm done, say what you want and just makeup the rest.

LOL. Was coffee invented in Seattle VEL?

[RP]

thank you John Madden


they did your mother on the 50 yard line last night. I should have seen this coming.

[Crimson]

Colts lookin a little rusty as expected. They should get on track by the 2nd half...but you never know..if Pittsburgh just keeps them off the field long enough for them not to get on track.

I'm a Cowboys fan btw,VEL. I know they didn't make the playoffs ,but hey, we won 3 out of 4 in the 90's! :roll:

[RP]

LOL Hines Ward was yanking Bob Sanders face mask on that stiff arm and they called it on Bob Sanders. WoW

[RP]

Marlin Jackson the rook , has to step up now. Harpers out

[RP]

Fuck that. PEYTON MANNING NEEDS TO STEP UP!

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Bob Sanders

[Crimson]

RP'S panickin', someone get the vicadin

[RP]

Are D-line is gunna change this game.

[AlphaBean]

Hey Supreme, any info on Chad Johnson taking a swing at the coach during half time last week?

He was probably doing his touchdown celebration.

[Skippord]

Go Pittsburgh

[VonErich Lives]

LOL. Was coffee invented in Seattle VEL?

You really are a Dipshit.

I said Star Bucks which was founded in Seattle not coffe.

2nd, it was a joke, it wasn't a "major insult" or something said with "deep thought" as you seem to feel everything on here is done, it's something that apprently did offend you because you've taken it way too seriously and blown it way out of proportion, but as I've said, whatever makes you happy.

[The Miz]

I thought you were done last post?

[VonErich Lives]

Colts lookin a little rusty as expected. They should get on track by the 2nd half...but you never know..if Pittsburgh just keeps them off the field long enough for them not to get on track.

I'm a Cowboys fan btw,VEL. I know they didn't make the playoffs ,but hey, we won 3 out of 4 in the 90's! :roll:

I'd ask what your point is supposed to be, but I doubt you have one or anything close to a valid explanation, so rather then waste everyones time as you simply up your post count while making yourself feel cool, just simply STFU. :D

[VonErich Lives]

I thought you were done last post?

Something about poiting out over and over how much of a dipshit you are just seems to be fun.

Please, continue making an ass of yourself and I'll be more then happy to keep pointing it out.

[VonErich Lives]

He was probably doing his touchdown celebration.

Dunno, they were talking about it in the pregame, Boomer Essiason said that CJ denies it, but a lot of in lockeroom sources says it did or something close to that did happen in the lockeroom during 1/2 time.

[AlphaBean]

I dunno, I like the TD celebration explanation better.

[VonErich Lives]

I dunno, I like the TD celebration explanation better.

Maybe at 1/2 time he decided they wouldn't win, so he figured if he scored he also wanted to audition for the next Rocky movie?

[Crimson]

I'd ask what your point is supposed to be, but I doubt you have one or anything close to a valid explanation, so rather then waste everyones time as you simply up your post count while making yourself feel cool, just simply STFU. :D

One of your replies right after the Pats lost was 'WELP at least we won 3 out of 4!'. Then you asked who was my team and i figured you would try and badmouth the Cowboys , so I figured i'd get in a 'at least we won 3 out of 4!' in there.
And quite frankly you get your XXL panties in a bunch whenever somneone talks down on the Pats..sooooo PATS LOST WOOHOOO :D

[VonErich Lives]

One of your replies right after the Pats lost was 'WELP at least we won 3 out of 4!'. Then you asked who was my team and i figured you would try and badmouth the Cowboys , so I figured i'd get in a 'at least we won 3 out of 4!' in there.
And quite frankly you get your XXL panties in a bunch whenever somneone talks down on the Pats..sooooo PATS LOST WOOHOOO :D

yes, I did ask who your team was, and yeah, I find it funny when fans of teams try to piss on other teams that did better then them that season (actually, the last few seasons).

and yeah, while that loss sucked, I'm not as pissy as I'd be if they hadn't won 3 of the last 4 superbowls. IE: If I was a cowboys fan, who hadn't won in (aprox) 10yrs and that happened I'd be like "WTF", but I can't really be too pissed at a team that won 3 of the last 4 superbowls.

That in NO WAY means I feel that winning 3 of the last 4 superbowls makes them the best team this year.

It does mean I know they were the best team 3 of the last 4 seasons, they have 3 trophy's that prove that.

Really, say whatever you want about the Pats, I really don't care, just be accurate and yeah, I guess if the Pats missed the playoffs I'd have to hold onto the joy of another team losing in the playoffs.

That beind said, I would think you'd love the Patriots, since you have all our sloppy seconds... Parcells, Bledsoe, Glenn, wouldn't be shocked to see Curtins Martin next year, maybe Lawyer Milloy soon...

[Crimson]

:( Actually we could probably use Milloy.

[VonErich Lives]

:( Actually we could probably use Milloy.

I dunno, he's gone downhill since the Pats released him, with a new "sherrif in town" I wouldn't be shocked to see him be a cap casulty at some point.

How's your cap situation? I ask because Parcells didn't plan on being long term with the Jets and destroy'd their salary cap for a few years after he left.

The Pats cap wasn't in great shape when he left, but that had more to do with the GM (shit, I forget his name off hand).

[Crimson]

Not sure what it is as of now. I jus know we might lose Nguyen, Singleton, and maybe Glover to note the big names. As long as the Tuna fulfills his 2 years left we should be ok?

[VonErich Lives]

Not sure what it is as of now. I jus know we might lose Nguyen, Singleton, and maybe Glover to note the big names. As long as the Tuna fulfills his 2 years left we should be ok?

*shrug* dunno, not sure if he just didn't care in NY or didn't understand the salary cap rules.

Also, from what I heard he'll ever year that he plans to continue sign a new 2yr deal, Peter King said something about if he retires he'll get a "thank you" bonus from jerry jones, and will always have a 2yr deal so his contract is never a press question...

[UmbrellaCorporation]

GO STEELERS!

[el fregadero]

That was like the tenth time Polamalu should have gotten a INT this game.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

First time the officials screwed him out of it though

[UmbrellaCorporation]

First time the officials screwed him out of it though

Yep.


Shit, if the Steelers can hold out for 4 and 1/2 minutes, they can beat the "media baby".

[Nervous Ferret]

oh, dear

[UmbrellaCorporation]

If the Colts win, then blah. Screw Manning.

[Team Sheep]

Goodbye.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Man, Joey Porter's not gonna shut up all week

[Mr. Monday Morning]

:|!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Team Sheep]

LMAO what a game.

[el fregadero]

:|!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, pretty much.

[Team Sheep]

And so it comes down to this...

Insane.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

RP is probably having heart palpatations

[Loose Cannon]

LOLLLLLLLLLLL, what a fucking end.

[Loose Cannon]

Colts choke again.

[Team Sheep]

:nono: That field goal symbolized the Colts today: Can't perform under pressure.

[el fregadero]

Wow, this turned into a great game in the 4th quarter. PRETTY INTENSE

[el fregadero]

Vanderjagt was about to cry. :'(

[Nervous Ferret]

Well he's just a liquored up kicker, he doesn't mean anything. Right Peyton?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Channeled a little bit of Kris Brown right there

[Loose Cannon]

That Bettis fumble was ridiculous.

[The Outlaw]

Wow. Just wow...

[The Outlaw]

I wonder if Vanderjagt will have something to say about Peyton again?

Damnit.

[The Miz]

Pittsburgh owes the Netherlands a big one. Without von Oelhoffen and Vanderjagt they'd be fucked.

[The Outlaw]

Pittsburgh owes the Netherlands a big one. Without von Oelhoffen and Vanderjagt they'd be fucked.

Word. :'(

Go Seahawks.

[RoXer]

I totally called that Bettis fumble. I told my friend "I have a huge feeling Bettis is going to end his carrerr by fumbling it and giving the Colts the win".

Well, I kinda called it.

[Excellance of Execution]

WHAT A GAME!! I was rooting for the Colts, because i can't stand the Steeler's. Pittsburgh deserved this win (although i don't like it), it would have been a shame if they would have lost because of the reversal of Pala (whatever his name is) interception. I don't know what the ref was smoking, but that reversal was one of the worst calls i've seen. GO DENVER!!!

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Arizona Cardinals might win the NFC West

[The Miz]

Arizona Cardinals might win the NFC West

Agreed

[The Outlaw]

WHAT A GAME!! I was rooting for the Colts, because i can't stand the Steeler's. Pittsburgh deserved this win (although i don't like it), it would have been a shame if they would have lost because of the reversal of Pala (whatever his name is) interception. I don't know what the ref was smoking, but that reversal was one of the worst calls i've seen. GO DENVER!!!

Even worse than not calling that false start on 4th and inches which (at the time) was huge? Even worse than calling a facemask on Bob Sanders when Hines had a clean hold and YANK of his facemask?

I do agree that it was a pretty bad call though. What was the explanation of the reversal anyway? I just turned the game back on cuz I knew they wouldn't overturn it and saw TP pissed off and running back on the field.

[road doggy dogg]

The reversal on Polamalu's interception was the worst officiating call I've ever seen. Total complete utter trash. Glad the Steelers won, fuck the Colts.

[RoXer]

next year

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I do agree that it was a pretty bad call though. What was the explanation of the reversal anyway? I just turned the game back on cuz I knew they wouldn't overturn it and saw TP pissed off and running back on the field.

I think it was something like when his left knee bumped the ball out his right knee was still on the floor so he didn't maintain possession through, or something like that.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

lol jesus Steve Smith

[The Miz]

YEAH BEARS DEFENSE

[The Miz]

2006 > 1985 BABY

[Nervous Ferret]

lol

[Loose Cannon]

fuck, I hate the Panthers.

[Excellance of Execution]

Even worse than not calling that false start on 4th and inches which (at the time) was huge? Even worse than calling a facemask on Bob Sanders when Hines had a clean hold and YANK of his facemask?

I do agree that it was a pretty bad call though. What was the explanation of the reversal anyway? I just turned the game back on cuz I knew they wouldn't overturn it and saw TP pissed off and running back on the field.

All those where bad calls, but the interception would have been a change of possession, which would have been HUGE at the point of the game.

They gave some lame excuse, that his knee was still down when he kneed the ball out. It made absolutely no sense, and its kind of funny how anouncers just move on and don't criticize the call even though both of them thought it was an interception.

The sad thing is, is that i wanted the Colts to win, but i wouldn't have felt right if they would have won the game under those circumstances. The Steelers outplayed them and deserved to win. I just hope Denver wins next week because there is something about Pittsburgh that i can't stand.
I think it's Cowher's assanine facial expressions.

[The Outlaw]

The reversal on Polamalu's interception was the worst officiating call I've ever seen. Total complete utter trash. Glad the Steelers won, fuck the Colts.


Nice observation.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2004/writers/pete_mcentegart/08/04/ten.spot/p1_cowher.jpg

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Try <a href="http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/a/d/ads102/warp.html">this</a>

[RP]

GO Hoosiers

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Seahawks/Steelers FTW!

[MVP]

As much as I hate the Steelers I gotta hand it to them for putting the pressure on Manning the whole game. Looks like I'm cheering for Seattle now.

[RoXer]

GO Hoosiers
lol

[UmbrellaCorporation]

GO Hoosiers

Hoosiers FTW! :D

[Joey Slugs]

REX REX REX REX REX REX REX REX REX REX REX REX

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Screw the Bears. Go Panthers!


(Afraid for my Seahawks to play the Bears. :()

[Joey Slugs]

DELAY OF GAME!

jesus fucking christ.

[The Miz]

So how about that Bears defense

[Loose Cannon]

errrr, fuck

[Joey Slugs]

well, that fucking sucked.

i hope seattle runs the ball right up Fox's ass. i can't stand that smug little cunt. running around and bumping chests with all the niggers like he's out there playing.

[The Miz]

Yeah, fuck niggers.

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20050506/CWS_dye_82896.jpg

[YOUR Hero]

guys, watch the 'nigger' talk.

[VonErich Lives]

*opens bottle of whiskey, takes a swig, hands it to RP*

[VonErich Lives]

Just heard on the Radio, Foster has a broken leg.

[Skippord]

Every team I wanted to win won this week :D

[Joey Slugs]

I overreacted on the "nigger" thing, but reguardless of the loss.... I still hate Fox.

Go Seattle.

[RoXer]

For me, the three most overrated teams this year are the Bears, Broncos, and Seahawks.

So as long as the Broncos and Seahawks lose, I will be happy.

[The Miz]

Cardinals were the most underrated IMO

[RoXer]

Are you being sarcastic? Because its hard to tell on the internet.

[RP]

I love scotch

[RP]

When Brackett caused that fumble on the 2 yard line and Harper picked it up and started running it back. I went from like 0-1,000,000 on the excitment meter. I'm shocked i didnt have a heart attack. I cant help but feel if Harper would have run straight instead of cut back he might have atleast took it to the 15 or something. The guy was injured tho. He had that knife wound and he had a really jacked up knee ( it looks jacked up ).

I was flipping out when that happend. I mean jumping on walls , flipping out. Then good o'le Mikey Vanderjact fucked my day.

Manning choked btw. If he would have just cut it loose in the first place instead of waiting til the 4th quarter, we might be in the playoffs stills.

I'm convinced that Indiana is cursed in sports. We'll always get real close in football and basketball, but never actually win the whole thing. Its torture i tell you.

[RP]

And that Palamalu interception that was overturned. Look i'm a die hard Colts fan, but i have to admit.

The fix was in.

That guy took like 5 minutes to look at that. It was almost like someone from the league called him and gave him the exact wording to use when he overturned the call. That was rediculous. I didnt wanna win it like that ( Tho if we would have won , i wouldnt say a damn thing ... ).

Oh well. I doubt we will ever field a team as good as this one and i'm pretty convinced i wont see any of my teams win a title any time soon. It really just isnt meant to be in Indiana. I just dont know what else to say.

[Joey Slugs]

I just hope that Payton doesn't get stuck like Marino did by being the greatest quarterback and yet never getting the ring.

Eli will get one, I'm just not sure that Payton will.

[Gonzo]

If I have to sit through years of Eli falling short at such a young age, I might just quit before it begins.

[CNM]

For me, the three most overrated teams this year are the Bears, Broncos, and Seahawks.

So as long as the Broncos and Seahawks lose, I will be happy.

Yeah, considering all the press the Broncos and Seahawks got this year I can see why you'd call them overrated.

[RoXer]

I just feel that the Seahawks, above all other teams, are a product of their schedule. Of the 13 wins, maybe 5 are legit.

They went 6-0 in their division? Well then thats got to mean they're Super Bowl bound. To take on the powerhouse Cardinals and 49ers four times in a season, that tells you this team is destined for the championship. :| The Rams are the only team to pose a type of a threat but they were below .500 also and didn't impress either.

But don't stop the presses just yet, because the Seahawks also played the Titans, Texans, and Eagles. This "incredible offense" of the Seattle had 4 more net yards than the Eagles while most of their TDs came from picking the future Hall of Famer, Mike McMahon.

They just barely squeaked by the Giants. In my opinion, New York outplayed them in just about every way. They even had a zillion false starts, and still managed to put up a fight. Feely just fucked it up.

True, they also beat the Colts. The Colts were without Marvin Harrison, Bob Sanders, and Cato June. Manning only played a quarter. They did already clinch home-field. BUT WHOS COUNTING.

That leaves the Falcons and the Cowboys. At the time, the Falcons wern't terrible and Seattle did a pretty good job the first half. Almost blew it in the second half though. They just barely edged out the Cowboys in that final drive too.

Should the Seahawks be a playoff team? Probably. Should they be a number 1 seed? Probably not. In my opinion, I haven't been impressed with them all season. And I know The Miz is going to shoot me down and give me sats and analysis, but don't bother because I don't care. I don't want to get into a Miz-Vel/RP-Vel/whatever type of arguement that goes on forever. They just haven't impressed me and thats why.

[RoXer]

The Broncos may not be overrated, they just make me angry. Why is it that not one god damn team in the NFL can figure out a play to stop the bootleg. I swear, Jake bootlegs like a million times every game and it always gets them. It's like the defense just stops in their tracks with their jaws wide open and go "OMG WTF a bootleg? WHAT DO WE DOOO?!?!!111" You'd think of the 11 athletes on the field and the brains of the coordinaters and coaches that SOMEONE would figure out just one play to prevent it. It just pisses me off is all.

[Skippord]

Hehehe Worked with Elway too

[VonErich Lives]

Hey RP,

Just wondering how the reaction/press is in Indy vs. nationally.

Nationally 2 people are getting it hard.

1) Vanderjerk, because this isn't the first time he's missed a "key kick" and this was in a dome.

2) Manning, not for his play, but his comments after the game about the OL.
I'm trying to be a good teammate here," Manning said, choosing his words carefully. "Let's just say we had some problems in protection. I'll give Pittsburgh credit for the blitzes and their rush. Those guys rushed. But we did have some protection problems."

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-adande16jan16,1,354080.story?coll=la-headlines-sports

I dunno, just seems to me like he hung his OL out to dry on that one, that's a comment I'd expect from Dan Marino, and didn't expect that from Manning personally.

and how's Johnny Walker Black work for ya? (got a bottle as a holiday gift I haven't cracked yet).

[VonErich Lives]

The Broncos may not be overrated, they just make me angry. Why is it that not one god damn team in the NFL can figure out a play to stop the bootleg. I swear, Jake bootlegs like a million times every game and it always gets them. It's like the defense just stops in their tracks with their jaws wide open and go "OMG WTF a bootleg? WHAT DO WE DOOO?!?!!111" You'd think of the 11 athletes on the field and the brains of the coordinaters and coaches that SOMEONE would figure out just one play to prevent it. It just pisses me off is all.

"Stay your lanes" is the best way to defend it and how the team's who handle success... you don't pressure him and allow him to run and you don't pull off your coverage and allow him to throw over you.

Typically what happens is one guy will apply pressure before the other is in position to contain.

Stat that I just found out about that really hurts...

Denver had something like under 30yds on 24 points... Ugh... I say again, I would have rathered a 48-7 blow out then to lose this way.

Last 10 playoff games 6 turnovers, 11th game 5 turnovers.

[RP]

Hey RP,

Just wondering how the reaction/press is in Indy vs. nationally.

Nationally 2 people are getting it hard.

1) Vanderjerk, because this isn't the first time he's missed a "key kick" and this was in a dome.

2) Manning, not for his play, but his comments after the game about the OL.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-adande16jan16,1,354080.story?coll=la-headlines-sports

I dunno, just seems to me like he hung his OL out to dry on that one, that's a comment I'd expect from Dan Marino, and didn't expect that from Manning personally.

and how's Johnny Walker Black work for ya? (got a bottle as a holiday gift I haven't cracked yet).

Stupid comment, but mostly true. There were way too many leaks in the O line. Blitzing or not blitzing. People that should have been picked up, werent getting picked up. Manning is tired of losing and he's tired of hearing about it. When you stick a mic in the guys face after a game like that and ask him the same questions he's been asked for 5 years. Frustration is bound to seep out. He played horrible for most of the game and it bit him in the ass. For some reason he cant get us to the superbowl. I trust eventually we'll get there, but its just so damn frustrating.

As for our kicker. He's a fucking douche.

[The Miz]

lol as soon as CBS flashed the "Vanderjagt is perfect on kicks at home" graphic I knew he was going to miss

[FearedSanctity]

lol, same thing with Vinatieri

[VonErich Lives]

lol as soon as CBS flashed the "Vanderjagt is perfect on kicks at home" graphic I knew he was going to miss

Steve Deossie is on Radio/TV around here and he said he was on the phone with Matt Bahr when Vender was getting ready to kick and Bahr said something like "something's wrong, his mechanices are off, he wont hit this" and well, we know what happened.

Interesting that another (former) kicker knew just by him lineing up that there was a problem (or just a lucky guess).

[VonErich Lives]

Stupid comment, but mostly true. There were way too many leaks in the O line. Blitzing or not blitzing. People that should have been picked up, werent getting picked up. Manning is tired of losing and he's tired of hearing about it. When you stick a mic in the guys face after a game like that and ask him the same questions he's been asked for 5 years. Frustration is bound to seep out. He played horrible for most of the game and it bit him in the ass. For some reason he cant get us to the superbowl. I trust eventually we'll get there, but its just so damn frustrating.

As for our kicker. He's a fucking douche.

Yeah, I heard it many times and read it, but finally saw it tonight.

I think what he meant to say was the "blocking schemes" was an issue, It would be difficult to argue that the Colts don't have a good OL, I think the issue was they weren't properly prepared for the Blitz pakacges of Pitssburg.

So, there's already talk that w/o the Pats going for a 3-peat or Manning going for his first, that the networks aren't happy and that Ad rates are going down.

I'll watch no matter what, normally do, and I just want a good game.

Neck, Stl v. Tennese came down to the last play!

If I have to root for a team now it's Carolina, the only reason I'd like to see Pittsburg win is for Bettis to get a ring, in his last game, in his home town... Although, him doing his little celebration talk/bobing head act after a 1yd gain gets a little tiring.

[VonErich Lives]

So, what does everyone think about the end of the Chicago/Carolina game?

PTI was arguing tonight, one felt it was a cheap shot move and attempt to injur Delhome and someone else felt it was a "last ditch try anything to win" type move.

I'm suprised we've never seen it tried before and it almost worked, he did fumble. I wonder how many copycats we'll see next season.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Seattle FTW!


Seriously, I'm all for the Seahawks, my number one team. Go Seattle!


(I hope Alexander plays the NFC Championship game. :()

[The Miz]

I just feel that the Seahawks, above all other teams, are a product of their schedule. Of the 13 wins, maybe 5 are legit.

They went 6-0 in their division? Well then thats got to mean they're Super Bowl bound. To take on the powerhouse Cardinals and 49ers four times in a season, that tells you this team is destined for the championship. :| The Rams are the only team to pose a type of a threat but they were below .500 also and didn't impress either.

But don't stop the presses just yet, because the Seahawks also played the Titans, Texans, and Eagles. This "incredible offense" of the Seattle had 4 more net yards than the Eagles while most of their TDs came from picking the future Hall of Famer, Mike McMahon.

They just barely squeaked by the Giants. In my opinion, New York outplayed them in just about every way. They even had a zillion false starts, and still managed to put up a fight. Feely just fucked it up.

True, they also beat the Colts. The Colts were without Marvin Harrison, Bob Sanders, and Cato June. Manning only played a quarter. They did already clinch home-field. BUT WHOS COUNTING.

That leaves the Falcons and the Cowboys. At the time, the Falcons wern't terrible and Seattle did a pretty good job the first half. Almost blew it in the second half though. They just barely edged out the Cowboys in that final drive too.

Should the Seahawks be a playoff team? Probably. Should they be a number 1 seed? Probably not. In my opinion, I haven't been impressed with them all season. And I know The Miz is going to shoot me down and give me sats and analysis, but don't bother because I don't care. I don't want to get into a Miz-Vel/RP-Vel/whatever type of arguement that goes on forever. They just haven't impressed me and thats why.

I don't know if you noticed, but the NFL had a ton of shitty teams this year. No one had that tough of a schedule, especially NFC teams. The Seahawks beat the teams they should've.

If you take this post and replace the word Seahawks with Panthers it makes perfect sense. Carolina beat New England, great. And who else? Tampa Bay? Minnesota? Uh... Arizona? Their schedule was equally as crappy as the Seahawks', but with a few exceptions they beat the teams they should've. Why aren't you calling them overrated?

I've heard alot of NFL commentators talk about the Seahawks, and 99% of them mention the easy schedule. I don't see how you can say they're overrated when every single person points this out. Every single team in the NFC had an easy schedule, because the NFC is shit.

I think Seattle and Carolina have proven all year long they are the two best teams in the NFC and I'm glad they're facing off. I like our chances; we've been playing well at home, Hasselbeck and Jackson are on fire, we're completely healthy, and we're much less nervous now that the monkey is off our back. Carolina is missing their top 2 running backs as well as possibly their best lineman. I still think they have a great shot, Delhomme and Smith are playing good enough to overcome the running game, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if they return to the SuperBowl.

[RoXer]

Miz, is Shawn Alexander gay? I'm not trying to be an ass or anything, but everytime he interviews with the media he comes off as being a "fayg". His word choice and speaking style is kinda gayish. And when he jumped up and down and clapped when Seattle got a touchdown, that was kinda gay too. I even tried to do a search for his bio to see ih hes married, but I can't find anything. He's still the man though if he is or isn't.

[The Miz]

His has a wife and two daughters, but that doesn't make him not gay. I doubt it though. He's just a really white black guy. If he was gay there's no way he would come out before retiring.

[RoXer]

I seriously wish I had the technology to make .gif of him jumping up and down and clapping.

[The Miz]

Sean Locklear, our starting RG, just got jailed for domestic violence. Great timing, retard. He'd played great all year too.

[Gonzo]

Yeah bonehead move.

[OssMan]

I seriously wish I had the technology to make .gif of him jumping up and down and clapping.
there is one on the giants board, gonna find it

[The Miz]

Pats D-coordinator Mangini accepts Jets head coaching job

[AlphaBean]

I don't know if you noticed, but the NFL had a ton of shitty teams this year. No one had that tough of a schedule, especially NFC teams. The Seahawks beat the teams they should've.

If you take this post and replace the word Seahawks with Panthers it makes perfect sense. Carolina beat New England, great. And who else? Tampa Bay? Minnesota? Uh... Arizona? Their schedule was equally as crappy as the Seahawks', but with a few exceptions they beat the teams they should've. Why aren't you calling them overrated?

I've heard alot of NFL commentators talk about the Seahawks, and 99% of them mention the easy schedule. I don't see how you can say they're overrated when every single person points this out. Every single team in the NFC had an easy schedule, because the NFC is shit.

I think Seattle and Carolina have proven all year long they are the two best teams in the NFC and I'm glad they're facing off. I like our chances; we've been playing well at home, Hasselbeck and Jackson are on fire, we're completely healthy, and we're much less nervous now that the monkey is off our back. Carolina is missing their top 2 running backs as well as possibly their best lineman. I still think they have a great shot, Delhomme and Smith are playing good enough to overcome the running game, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if they return to the SuperBowl.

Panthers injuries aside (next year they'll be fine, let Deshaun and Davis go and draft someone who is durable), maybe they didn't do that hot during the regular season, when it comes to good teams... but I'll tell you what:

At Meadowlands, pitching a shutout, and then going back to Chicago to lead like, the whole game... :yes: The regular season is when good teams win... like the Colts. The postseason is when great teams win... which is why I was so dumbfounded by the Pats losing. That was just absurd. I think it's just time. Like with the Lakers... they've probably just lost enough of a step. And enough coaches.

:wave: Mangina.

[D Mac]

Stupid comment, but mostly true. There were way too many leaks in the O line. Blitzing or not blitzing. People that should have been picked up, werent getting picked up. Manning is tired of losing and he's tired of hearing about it. When you stick a mic in the guys face after a game like that and ask him the same questions he's been asked for 5 years. Frustration is bound to seep out. He played horrible for most of the game and it bit him in the ass. For some reason he cant get us to the superbowl. I trust eventually we'll get there, but its just so damn frustrating.

As for our kicker. He's a fucking douche.


"Here we are," Manning said. "I'm out at my third Pro Bowl, I'm about to go in and throw a touchdown to Jerry Rice, we're honoring the Hall of Fame, and we're talking about our idiot kicker who got liquored up and ran his mouth off.

"The sad thing is, he's a good kicker. He's a good kicker. But he's an idiot."

[AlphaBean]

LOL I love when people talk at the Pro Bowl. i.e. Culpepper, who pissed Moss off. :wavesad:

But on the other hand, what was it exactly that VanJagerMeister said last year? Something about mental toughness and clutch? :?:

Either way, I think he forgot exactly what it was he had said... :(

[D Mac]

KIRKLAND, Wash. (AP) -- Shaun Alexander was feeling "loopy" on Saturday.

By Monday, the NFL rushing leader was back in the loop for the Seattle Seahawks as they prepare for the NFC championship game against the Carolina Panthers.

Two days after a concussion knocked Alexander out of Seattle's playoff win over Washington, Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren said he expects doctors to clear the star running back for practice Wednesday.

[RP]

loopy :lol:

[D Mac]

LOL I love when people talk at the Pro Bowl. i.e. Culpepper, who pissed Moss off. :wavesad:

But on the other hand, what was it exactly that VanJagerMeister said last year? Something about mental toughness and clutch? :?:

Either way, I think he forgot exactly what it was he had said... :(

http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2003/0129/1500575.html

[VonErich Lives]

Sean Locklear, our starting RG, just got jailed for domestic violence. Great timing, retard. He'd played great all year too.

Is there really such a thing as "good timing" for domestic violence?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Just before a playoff game if you're Nick Harper

[The Outlaw]

Miz, is Shawn Alexander gay? I'm not trying to be an ass or anything, but everytime he interviews with the media he comes off as being a "fayg". His word choice and speaking style is kinda gayish. And when he jumped up and down and clapped when Seattle got a touchdown, that was kinda gay too. I even tried to do a search for his bio to see ih hes married, but I can't find anything. He's still the man though if he is or isn't.

M-V-P

[RP]

Just before a playoff game if you're Nick Harper


Yah he played a hell of a game. If he would have killed the bitch, the guy would have scored 3 defensive td's.

[The Outlaw]

Also, Joey Porter is a joke.

[AlphaBean]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2003/0129/1500575.html

"Peyton and Tony are basically the same guy. They work hard, they mark their Xs and Os and go out and execute. If it doesn't happen, there's nothing we can do about it.''


...he nailed it. He and Joey Porter probably talked before the game.

[VonErich Lives]

"Peyton and Tony are basically the same guy. They work hard, they mark their Xs and Os and go out and execute. If it doesn't happen, there's nothing we can do about it.''


...he nailed it. He and Joey Porter probably talked before the game.

They were talking about this today, that when Dungy was away from the team and the players were talking about them, they said "he never raises his voice" or something to that effect.

How many NFL coaches can you probably find that don't ever yell at their players?

I dunno, the more I look at this the more I put the blame with Dungy, some people are blaming Manning saying he runs the offense and calls his audible and blocking and should have read things better, well, if you're the Head Coach and you're QB isn't getting more then 2 seconds to throw the ball all half, then it's your job as coach (OL dircted by OC directed by HC) to do something about it!

Is there something about Dungy's coaching or style that just doesn't work in the playoffs?

I guess if I was a Colts fan, I'd blame dungy... but my guess is they'll make Vanderjerk the scape goat (not that that's a bad thing).

and just for equal time.

The Pats, I get to spread the blame...

I can't blame Belicheck for Faulk

I might question Hobbs being back their a little, Dwight had done well, but Hobbs it wasn't Hobbs first return of the year.

Troy Brown was the right person to be there, the question is was it Belicheck or Brad Seealy who decided to rush an extra player, forcing Brown to cover the gunner incase of a fake and then rush back to get in position to catch the ball?

Ashworth misses a block, Brady gets pressure and throw the ball pretty much right to Champ Bailey.

ugh,,, it's really going to hit me the seasons over this weekend watching the Confrence Championship games.

[The Outlaw]

Yes, Peyton Manning should alter his style of playing since it hasn't worked at all for him. Nice observation.

[VonErich Lives]

Yes, Peyton Manning should alter his style of playing since it hasn't worked at all for him. Nice observation.

Not sure if you're responding to Me, Bean or Vanderjerk's comment from 2003...

Does Peyton need to alter his "style" dunno, but would make an offseason of work on footwork, and maybe Indy using a "moving pocket" at times help? Believe it or not, Drew Bledsoe is actually faster then Tom Brady (speed and release) the difference is, Brady has great footwork which makes him "look fast".

Just seems when they get beat, it's always by Blitzing teams or teams that jamn the WR's and throw off the timing patterns... Every year they hit the playoffs and this happens, they have to do something... They have such a great team... They should be in a super bowl.... I still think it falls back on coaching... these guys have the tools, there is something the coach just isn't getting out of them, or a situation they're not putting them in.

[VonErich Lives]

So, watched NFL network tonight and they had the head of the refs on... and he broke down all the stuff from this weekend.

On the Palo INT, he blamed himself and the rule not being clear, the rule says must maintain possesion after hitting the ground, but no rules were ever set as to how long after hitting the ground and if once a player tries to get up does that count as already hitting the ground. He said they released the statment because they want to make sure the call doesn't get blown again and would clarify in the offseason.

The Champ fumble, went through every angle and none of them you can tell 100%, so because of that you can't change a call and there was no ref in position simply because there are very few refs (or none) that could keep up with Champ Bailey for a 100yds dash.

The Pass Interferance on Samuel, the line judge didn't have "the angle" that the back judge did and he showed the angle of view, and the backjudge was the proper person to make the call. The contact started at the 10, both players looking at the ball, near the end, smuels head turns from the ball, but also isn't faceing the WR (this is when he got pushes by lelie). Anyway, I still think it was a crap call, but nice to see why/how they called it.

The Peyton Manning non-saftey, fwd progress is the most fwd point when contact is made and at that point mannings feet, and the ball are not in the endzone.

The no-call (indy/pitt) he hates a "dead play" but he said there was no contact and they went through the replay and you couldn't see what was definite contact, so they had no choice but to call it a dead play since a whistle blew (that shouldn't have).

Chicago, the ball snap after the play clock expired, the back judge watched the clock, when it hits 0, he then is to "look for the ball" which means they actually get at least an extra second. He went on to say that they have many plays every year that the ball is snaped after the clock expired because it takes time for the back judge to locate the ball after moving his view from the play clock...

I dunno, just interesting to get the break downs.

[D Mac]

Vanderjerk's contract has expired. Think the Colts will resign? :lol:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Also, Joey Porter is a joke.How is he a joke? He beasted Manning twice in the final minutes of the game, plus various other times through out the game. Any other QB other then Manning throwing that pass and having that samething happen would be called an INT, I would put money on it. The NFL has been handing it to the Colts for a while now and they haven't gotten it done. "Re-enforcing" the touch fouls on DBs/WRs..who does that help? The Colts. It's kinda funny how that is "reienforcement" was put into place after the Colts' Wideouts where roughed up in the playoffs. Now, I don't think the NFL is giving the Colts a huge advantage, but they are definetly trying to help them out a lot. Manning is the real joke, he tried to blame it on his O-Line but look at that last drive before the field goal. 2 and 2 he goes deep into the endzone - that's okay but Dallas Clark was wide open in the flat, prob woulda got 10 plus. 3 and 2 he goes deep again, and throws an awful pass that was almost picked off. Once again another man was open for a dump off, this time it was Edge coming out of the backfield. Sure, 46 yard fieldgoal should be automatic for a guy like Vanderjek (sp?) but wouldn't rather see it as a 36 year field goal? or a 26 yard field goal?

And on Shaun Alexander, I think hes still got something to prove. I've never seen a guy with a concussion jumping up and down eating sunflower seeds before. He wasn't even hit that hard either. Good luck againest the Panthers, Dan Morgan is a sick motherfucker and they are all going to be gunning for Alexander because he came off extremely soft after the Redskins game.

I don't even wanna talk about the Pats game either, I was all fired up about the horrible pass interference call but then Brady threw a 100 yard INT, Troy Brown fumbled and Vinteri missed a field goal. I just knew it wasn't in the cards for the Patrtiots. Al Wilson looked really impressive in the game, he's really stepped his game up. It will be interesting to see what happens next season.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

also LOL@Patriot haters

Patriots > Your favorite team

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Hearing New England fans complain about the refs giving the Colts special treatment makes about as much sense as the Yankees complaining about the Devil Rays spending too much on player salaries.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

How do you figure? The 5 yard contact "re-enforcement" rule was put into place after Patriots defensive backs and linebackers where "roughing up" TEs and WRs.

[The Outlaw]

How is he a joke? He beasted Manning twice in the final minutes of the game, plus various other times through out the game. Any other QB other then Manning throwing that pass and having that samething happen would be called an INT, I would put money on it. The NFL has been handing it to the Colts for a while now and they haven't gotten it done. "Re-enforcing" the touch fouls on DBs/WRs..who does that help? The Colts. It's kinda funny how that is "reienforcement" was put into place after the Colts' Wideouts where roughed up in the playoffs. Now, I don't think the NFL is giving the Colts a huge advantage, but they are definetly trying to help them out a lot. Manning is the real joke, he tried to blame it on his O-Line but look at that last drive before the field goal. 2 and 2 he goes deep into the endzone - that's okay but Dallas Clark was wide open in the flat, prob woulda got 10 plus. 3 and 2 he goes deep again, and throws an awful pass that was almost picked off. Once again another man was open for a dump off, this time it was Edge coming out of the backfield. Sure, 46 yard fieldgoal should be automatic for a guy like Vanderjek (sp?) but wouldn't rather see it as a 36 year field goal? or a 26 yard field goal?

And on Shaun Alexander, I think hes still got something to prove. I've never seen a guy with a concussion jumping up and down eating sunflower seeds before. He wasn't even hit that hard either. Good luck againest the Panthers, Dan Morgan is a sick motherfucker and they are all going to be gunning for Alexander because he came off extremely soft after the Redskins game.

I don't even wanna talk about the Pats game either, I was all fired up about the horrible pass interference call but then Brady threw a 100 yard INT, Troy Brown fumbled and Vinteri missed a field goal. I just knew it wasn't in the cards for the Patrtiots. Al Wilson looked really impressive in the game, he's really stepped his game up. It will be interesting to see what happens next season.

He insinuated that the front office manipulated games, he said everyone wanted the Colts to win even the higher ups, he's a freaking joke and that is one of the most absurd things I have heard. They got a call wrong, was it an INT? Well yeah. Did he not see the game up untill that point or was he too busy running his mouth? Did he not remember the Steelers having it 4th and inches and getting a false start call and it mysteriously NOT being a penalty on either side although the refs blew the play dead, only to go on and make the first down (which was a pretty significant sequence of events)? When at the start of the game the exact thing happened on the opposite side of the ball (except the Colts lineman actually didn't move untill the man was basically in the backfield) and it was called on the offense? Yeah, Porter is a beast and can play but he is a joke. The 5 yard illegal contact call is only beneficial for the Colts? No sir, afraid not. Yeah, Peyton probably should not have said what he said but he was right. This was the first time this year the OL hasn't gotten the job done. I don't even think he was blaming his OL, I took it as he meant they had blocking schemes, assignments, etc. wrong. Not saying "These guys didn't block for shit" but rather saying "We didn't have our assignments down, our schemes didn't fit, etc." Again, just how I took it.

It doesn't take a hard hit to get a concussion. And whenever you do have one (whether it's a slight concussion or a more severe), you shouldn't be inserted back into the game. Concussions aren't something to take lightly. If I had to guess, he had a slight concussion and they were just playing it safe. What else does he have to prove? 89 rushing touchdowns, 11 receiving, 5 consecutive seasons with 1000+ yards, has missed one start since the '02 season, good with the football, sure hands, best RB in the NFL. What exactly does he have to prove? That he can win a Super Bowl? In due time.

[The Miz]

also LOL@Patriot haters

Patriots > Your favorite team

What if your favorite team is the Broncos?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

It doesn't take a hard hit to get a concussion. And whenever you do have one (whether it's a slight concussion or a more severe), you shouldn't be inserted back into the game. Concussions aren't something to take lightly. If I had to guess, he had a slight concussion and they were just playing it safe. What else does he have to prove? 89 rushing touchdowns, 11 receiving, 5 consecutive seasons with 1000+ yards, has missed one start since the '02 season, good with the football, sure hands, best RB in the NFL. What exactly does he have to prove? That he can win a Super Bowl? In due time.

That he can run for 50 yards or more in a playoff game would be a start. Also fumbling without being touched isn't much of a good thing.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I ment he still has something to prove in the playoffs, he has already proved he is one of the best running backs in the NFL but he hasn't shown much in the post season. I think he is going to need a big game againest the Panthers, Matt "We're gonna take the ball and score" Hasselbeck has always put up big numbers in playoff games but that hasn't always resulted in W's so I don't think the Seahawks can advance without a strong performance on the ground.

I was just looking threw this thread becuase I was gone for a week. One thing I saw was wondering how fast Watson was, I am pretty sure he ran a 4.4 at the combine and put up like 565 max bench press or something. Dude is a beast, he improved more and more as the season went along. This was really like his rookie year, he played like one game last year. So hopefully he continues to get better.

[Gonzo]

Yeah dude, the whole Pats > Your Team is pretty null. I mean yeah, they've been great the past 4 or 5 years or whatever. Fact is, they are out now and someone else is gonna be the champ. You don't see Cowboys or 9er's fans coming in and saying, greatest dynasty of the 80's, 90's or whatever making them better than anyones team.

[The Outlaw]

That he can run for 50 yards or more in a playoff game would be a start. Also fumbling without being touched isn't much of a good thing.

Yeah, the fumble was kind of odd, he doesn't fumble a whole lot. Not sure how many yards he had against the Packers but scoring 3 TDs in a playoff game isn't too shabby.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah dude, the whole Pats > Your Team is pretty null. I mean yeah, they've been great the past 4 or 5 years or whatever. Fact is, they are out now and someone else is gonna be the champ. You don't see Cowboys or 9er's fans coming in and saying, greatest dynasty of the 80's, 90's or whatever making them better than anyones team.
lol It's not that serious. Obviously the Patriots never where the best team this season and they should have finished up much worse then they did. I just think its funny how people always stay stuff after the team loses, not just here but everywhere. I wonder where all these people where before the Broncos game? Its all good though, Patriots will be back.

[VonErich Lives]

lol It's not that serious. Obviously the Patriots never where the best team this season and they should have finished up much worse then they did. I just think its funny how people always stay stuff after the team loses, not just here but everywhere. I wonder where all these people where before the Broncos game? Its all good though, Patriots will be back.

Dunno what you've been watching/listening too... but the Broncos are really getting no respect.

Everyone is on the whole the Pats gave the game away the Broncos didn't win it, heck even NFL network had some thing with NFL films the other night where they dissed the Broncos.

The Pats made turnovers, but the Broncos still had to capitalize on them.

I think they beat Pittsburg, simply because I think Shanahan is a better coach then Cower and will find a way.

[Gonzo]

lol It's not that serious. Obviously the Patriots never where the best team this season and they should have finished up much worse then they did. I just think its funny how people always stay stuff after the team loses, not just here but everywhere. I wonder where all these people where before the Broncos game? Its all good though, Patriots will be back.

Nah, I give the Pats huge props for getting as far as they did with so many key injuries. It was actually unbelievable. You can't deny they're the best team of this decade. I know what you mean though, with people jumping all over a team when they take a fall from grace.

Like, for me, the Giants did a lot better than I ever would have predicted, but they got stomped in the playoffs. Theres no two ways about that. People can say whatever they want, but next year, like the Pats, we'll be back.

[Skippord]

We're the Seahawks of the AFC

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

If Denver can force 5 turnovers over again they'll be headed to the Superbowl. I dunno if they can do that or not. Steelers defense looked really impressive againest the Colts but the Bronco's offense is more effective on the ground so it wil be interesting to see what'll happen. I really don't know what to expect from this game. Even though I've never really liked Pittsburgh, I would like to see Bettis win a ring this year. A lot of people really discredited his worth when he was only coming in for short yardage a while back. Hes still a great running back, one of the greatest of all time. I was glad to see his career not end on that play on Sunday, he would have been the next Buckner. Nobody remembers him being a Buckner being a great player, he's only known for the bobbled ball.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

We're the Seahawks of the AFCAll I have been hearing all year is how the Seahawk are underrated becuase they play on the west coast. I don't know, that theory works in other sports where the games are played at later times because of the time differences. In the NFL I really don't think it matters where you play. I've heard plenty about the Seahawks all season and continue to hear about them as they advance in the playoffs. I really don't get where this under the radar talk comes from.

[Skippord]

I think theres a bit of an east coast bias

[Supreme Olajuwon]

How do you figure? The 5 yard contact "re-enforcement" rule was put into place after Patriots defensive backs and linebackers where "roughing up" TEs and WRs.
tuck ruuuuuuuuuuuuule

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

haha true true, but it wasn't like that rule was put into place on purpose to help the Patriots. The 5 yard contact rule was put in place to improve passing offense in the NFL - and at the time the Colts had the most prolific passing attack in the NFL.

[RP]

Are you trying to say that they are calling pass interference now and that they werent back then , but since the Colts bitched about it. Now they actually have to call pass interference? Is this what you are trying to say?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Joey Porter is a moron though. It's not like the refs knocked the ball out of Polamalu's hand. How would they have screwed them then?

He must have something stuck up his ass.

[CNM]

He got shot in the ass a few years ago, does that count?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Are you trying to say that they are calling pass interference now and that they werent back then , but since the Colts bitched about it. Now they actually have to call pass interference? Is this what you are trying to say?
No

The rule isn't pass interference, it's illegal contact. They are two different things, with different outcomes in terms of penalty yardage.

[BCWWF]

It looks as if Duante Culpepper might be wanting to get out of Minnesota now. After giving him a big raise last year (I think mainly in bonuses) he is asking for more, and the execs are just laughing in his face. It's kind of a mess, but he has been sketchy for a while now about his rehab and the new coaches.

We should trade him to New Orleans and take Matt Leinart off their hands

[RP]

No

The rule isn't pass interference, it's illegal contact. They are two different things, with different outcomes in terms of penalty yardage.

You do realise that the illegal contact rule has been in place for many years and it wasnt just some rule placed to help the Colts out right? It wasnt being called and Mike Martz was actually the person who made the big deal about it after the Patriots won there first superbow. It had nothing to do with the Colts.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

It was both Mike Martz and Tony Dungy on the rules committee that pushed for this. Yes I do realize its been in the rule book for years, but its kind of funny on the timing of wanting to "re-enforce" it. Saying it had nothing to do with the Colts is funny. The rule wasn't put into the place the year after the Patriots won their 1st Superbowl and beat the Rams. It was put into place after the Patriots won their 2nd Superbowl, which was the same playoffs that the Patriots beat the Colts. Which happend to be 2 seasons after the Patriots beat the Rams.

[RP]

Pass interference is pass interference. They put that rule in because it obviously wasnt being called. It was more of a marker for the refs to look for when calling pass interference. This absurd idea that the league wanted to help the Colts and Rams is ridiculous. The call wasnt being called and you know it.

[Gonzo]

It has nothing to do with the league wanting to help any team out. It has to do with certain coaches, of certain teams, pushing for a harsher enforcement of certain rules when it would be most convienent for them. No denying that. It has nothing to do with the league.

[AlphaBean]

By all means, let's call every single hold, too. Even when it's minor, or incidental. And tack on a 15 yarder for every celebration a player does. The rules are in place, they're just "conveniently" ignored to help with the flow of play!

But who wants that. I want to see Freeney get 53 sacks next year.

[VonErich Lives]

That's what it comes down to, the fine line between making the proper calls and "letting them play", there is always a push to "let them play" then eventually a team will complain.

Also, I think the contact v. pass interferance is confusing the 5yd bump rule with pass interferance.

Within 5yds of the line of scrimmage you can "bump" or "jamn" a WR or TE, you can't tackle them.

After the 5yds, unless your making a play on the ball or it's "incidental" such as both players looking at the ball and their feet tangle, it's interferance.

You have to "let them play" to an extent, but taking a WR or DB out of a play should be called, all this soft stuff should be let go.

The complaints were coming from St. Louis and the Colts the two teams who had recent big losses to the Patriots, the Steelers didn't complain simply because they play physical the same way, where the two "Dome Teams" were all on timing patters and "track teams" so to speak. I don't fault them for it.

RP - as we discussed before, the last time there was a "focus" on reinforcing that rule was the season when Dan Marino set that TD record, so it's kinda funny that the two seasons where QB's threw for the most TD's were when the league was focusing on that rule.

and as time goes by it will become lax'd again, every year the Refs target a different rule they "bring it back to basics" so to speak and call everything, it gets everyone to pay attention and then they slowly lax the rule again and then down the road when it's really being abused they push it again to bring people back in.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Pass interference is pass interference. They put that rule in because it obviously wasnt being called. It was more of a marker for the refs to look for when calling pass interference. This absurd idea that the league wanted to help the Colts and Rams is ridiculous. The call wasnt being called and you know it.
Pass interference is a different rule. You're a DB, you breathe on a wide out 6 yards down the field its a 5 yard penalty and automatic first down, even if QB has no intention of throwing the ball to that WR.

Pass interference is when you make a play on a ball before the ball gets there, so yeah, pass interference is pass interference.

[punt]

Yes, but that receiver who has been "breathed on" may not be the primary receiver. However, if the QB starts to scramble, that receiver may be #2, #3, etc. If he is bumped out of position, it could affect the end result of the play.

[AlphaBean]

Yes, but that receiver who has been "breathed on" may not be the primary receiver. However, if the QB starts to scramble, that receiver may be #2, #3, etc. If he is bumped out of position, it could affect the end result of the play.

So could a ref getting in the way, a WR stumbling on the turf, or a cramp. I don't see your point. Whether it's the #1 or the slot, the rule is just as gay. All you gotta do to succeed in the NFL is be a track athlete.

Michael Bennett desperately needs to go to WR. He would dominate like Steve Smith.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I guess I should rephraze what I said earlier too. I don't think the NFL wants The Colts to be the Superbowl champion or something. I just think the NFL wants teams like the Colts to win, with flashy passing attacks and shit like that, so they try to give teams like that every advantage possible. Everyone always says "Defense wins Superbowls" but everytime a team a defensive struggle, people say the game is boring.

[Skippord]

My favorite Part of Football is Defense

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Ask anyone the worst Superbowls, they probably say Ravens vs Giants a few years ago, Ravens D was sick. Or Bears vs the Patriots Superbowl 20 when the Bears ridiculous defense murdered the Patriots.

[VonErich Lives]

I guess I should rephraze what I said earlier too. I don't think the NFL wants The Colts to be the Superbowl champion or something. I just think the NFL wants teams like the Colts to win, with flashy passing attacks and shit like that, so they try to give teams like that every advantage possible. Everyone always says "Defense wins Superbowls" but everytime a team a defensive struggle, people say the game is boring.

The NFL even says every year they "focus" on a different rule, typically they have something to do w/ flow of game or player saftey... such as a few years ago where if you looked at a QB the wrong way the threw a flag, or they'd call in the grasp before the QB was touched.

it's a cycle, the rules will get lax'd again and then 20yrs from now they'll clamp down again and whoever is the hot QB will break Mannings record like he did Marinos.

[punt]

All you gotta do to succeed in the NFL is be a track athlete.

Tell that to Ronaldo Nehemiah.

[AlphaBean]

Tell that to Ronaldo Nehemiah.

Who? :p

I'm not being literal, of course; but if in the course of the rules being enforced, receivers can go without being touched... then we will see a lot less "football" players on a football field, and more "athletes." As Joey Porter said.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

yeah but you're forgetting Joey Porter is a retard

[AlphaBean]

A retard in the AFC championship game, no less.

[punt]

I have something to say before this game starts .......................


















GO STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[FearedSanctity]

I have something to say before this game starts .......................




GO BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:y:

[punt]

3-0 Pittsburgh at the end of 1

Steelers score - 10-0



GO STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BCWWF]

I just don't really give a shit about this game

[punt]

I suck my thumb :y:

:kiss:

[punt]

THE BUS in for 6 .................

Steelers 17-3




GO STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Loose Cannon]

well this is fun

[FearedSanctity]

Can't say I didn't see this coming

[punt]

Damn, Big Ben is cool in the pocket

[RoXer]

IN
COM
PLETE

WAH WAH WAH WAAAAHHHHHH

[Skippord]

Fuck we suck

[FearedSanctity]

I miss Elway :'(

[Skippord]

Ashley muthafucking Lelie :'(

[FearedSanctity]

Let Lelie play defense :'(

[D Mac]

Can't say I didn't see this coming

[Skippord]

Wheres Todd Sauerbraun when you need him :'(

[Gonzo]

lol

[UmbrellaCorporation]

lol, Steelers FTW. Broncos fail.


Hoping for a Steelers/Seahawks super bowl.

[Skippord]

I'm sad now :'(

[FearedSanctity]

Pfft, now?

[Skippord]

Well I was but now that we might have a chance I'm sadder knowing we might lose a close one

[D Mac]

Nice pass, Jake.

[The Greater Power]

FUCK YOU PLUMMER

DAMMIT I HATE PITT

[FearedSanctity]

Way to be Jake, Jake

[Skippord]

*cuts self*

[D Mac]

I just don't think Plummer is Championsip material.

[Skippord]

I dont think I'll be alive after this game

[FearedSanctity]

Van Pelt FTW

[Skippord]

*GUN TO HEAD*

[D Mac]

still time. :p

[FearedSanctity]

Not when Jake's your QB

[D Mac]

UGH, I hate that Diet Pepsi machine shit. :mad:

[RoXer]

IN
COM
PLETE

WAH WAH WAH WAAAAHHHHH

[FearedSanctity]

lol, Pittsburgh is helping us get back in this game and we aren't doing shit about it

[Skippord]

What the fuck just happened

[Skippord]

Ashley muthafucking Lelie :'(

[punt]

You are right, freakin' Steelers are trying like hell to let the Broncos back in this game.

[punt]

31 yards in penalties on this drive - Damn

[D Mac]

Broncs are taking too long.

[D Mac]

Now it's up to the Defense. *snickers*

[punt]

Come on Steelers, put a drive together and end it here!

[FearedSanctity]

Knew that was coming

[Skippord]

Now it's up to the Defense. *snickers*

:rant:

[punt]

I am amazed that the Steelers have not really been able to run the ball for 3 weeks. They are actually winning on PASSING!

If Denver can score here, uh oh.

Why in the hell have the Steelers stopped rushing (defense) like they did in the 1st half?

[Skippord]

Why in the hell are we going so slow

[D Mac]

Over.

[Skippord]

Nail in the Coffin

[FearedSanctity]

WOOO

30th PICK







:nono:

[Skippord]

If you need me I'll be in my room weeping

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Roethlisberger's pretty unbelievable for a 23 year old. Wonder if any Giants fans have had 2nd thoughts about the draft last year.

[FearedSanctity]

Jake needs to learn how to slide

[punt]

See, they started blitzing again and Plummer folded

[CNM]

Props to the Steelers. They played a great game. I'm not gonna pull the old "they beat themselves" garbage like some fans and media members did last week. That's bull. Disappointing end to the season for the Broncos, but they did a lot more than people expected. They'll be back.

[Skippord]

We need to learn how to stop sucking

[punt]

SUPER BOWL bound, baby.................



GO STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Everybody needs to shut the fuck up about Bettis' parents though, seriously. They travel to see him, WE GET IT.