NFL 2007 Offseason Thread

[RP]

LOL at Lynch's picture. Looks like it was taken in jail.

[SammyG]

oh shit, Branch hasnt been selected either huh? Awesome. 3 good players to choose from.

[Nervous Ferret]

Don't really like Lynch at all really. The Bills are kind of a lost cause, they should have held out for McFadden or Ray Rice next year :shifty:

[RP]

lol " Marshall chime in here if you want. I love how he gets North to South "

Faulk : " Cant teach that ...."

...
..

[MTH15]

Lol wonder who they will pick.

[DrA]

I hope Marshawn Lynch likes Dave and Busters, because that's the only thing they have in Buffalo.

[RP]

Mooch just rolled his eye's as if he wants to punch Marshall Faulk in the face.

Faulk is horrible. I think i prefer Deion.

[SammyG]

aah 6 mins away.

[RP]

Its definetly Carriker. He's like Grant Winstrom.

[SammyG]

Yeah I'm hoping for Carriker

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Giants take Quinn @ #20 and then deal him to the Bears for Briggs and another pick.</font>

[RP]

Yah they better draft Carriker cause Leonard Little might kill another person soon.

[SammyG]

Here we go!!!!!!! CARRIKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MTH15]

Carriker it is

[KingofOldSchool]

Paul Pozluszny or Greg Olsen is probably going to Carolina next.

[SammyG]

I am ecstatic right now.

[RP]

Somone get Leonard Little beer.

[SammyG]

Little, and Carriker. yessssssss

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Hmmm, Jets traded here.

[SammyG]

Jet fans just went nuts. Jets picking rite now

[KingofOldSchool]

Leon Hall?

[RP]

LOL Jets

I hope they still pass Quinn cause i'll lmao.

[Nervous Ferret]

Leon Hallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

[MTH15]

TRADE!! Jets and CAR

[RP]

It doesnt matter who the Jets take, its getting booed.

[SammyG]

oooh what a trade.

[KingofOldSchool]

Oh geez.

[RP]

LOL i hope the Jets take Olson the TE

[KingofOldSchool]

Whoever they pick better be worth it in the end.

[SammyG]

Jets definitely gonna get Leon

[RP]

ROFL JETS GAVE ALL THERE PICKS

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Holy shit, what's that all about?

[RP]

OHHH man if this isnt a good pick, theres gunna be a riot .

[RP]

Please please let the Jets take the TE. Fires will be started in the stands.

[Nervous Ferret]

Jets still have another 2nd so it's not a huge deal, gave up a little much though.

[SammyG]

2 mins away.

[Nervous Ferret]

Actually kind of rooting for Alan Branch. Other Jets fans won't like it, but we def need to bulk up somewhere up the middle

[SammyG]

ROFL @ THAT HOBO LOOKING JETS FAN WITH 3 TEETH

[MTH15]

1 min, they pick....Darrelle Revis

[SammyG]

Here it comes! And the Jets select.... Revis.

[SammyG]

Good pick imo

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Not bad, honestly. I'm surprised.

[Nervous Ferret]

:-\ Oh well, would have rather waited and taken a Lawrence Timmons and kept our 2 2nd rounders but that is the Jets for you

[RP]

lol Jets fans boo everything. They're so dumb.

[MTH15]

Halfway through the first round.

[RP]

With the 32nd pick in the NFL draft the Indianapolis Colts select...Brady Quinn

[UmbrellaCorporation]

So apparently Cleveland is trying to call up to get back into the first round for Quinn. Just rumor though.

[road doggy dogg]

lol @ Miami

[UmbrellaCorporation]

WTF @ Green Bay

[SammyG]

lol @ GB

[road doggy dogg]

lol wow, I'm not used to drafts where the Lions make better picks than most other teams.

[RP]

Justin Harrell was a projected 2nd rounder.

I wonder if the Jags will take Quinn.

[RP]

I wonder if the reciever from LSU could fall to Indy.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Please let Quinn go to Baltimore. :(

And PLEASE let the Titans do well this year. Home state and all, what.

[RP]

Someones gunna draft Brady Quinn and when they go to the greenroom to celebrate with him, he'll be hanging from the ceiling fan.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Someones gunna draft Brady Quinn and when they go to the greenroom to celebrate with him, he'll be hanging from the ceiling fan.

lol.

[RP]

I think Miami is officially the worst football team in the league now.

[SammyG]

With the 18th pick of the 2007 NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select *Random Criminal*

[Skippord]

Excellent

[Skippord]

The Denver Broncos: Have traded Jay Cutler :shifty:

[UmbrellaCorporation]

I bet when the Bengals do running exercises, they are chased by a police officer to simulate the real experience.

[RP]

LOL the Broncos just traded 3 picks for 1. Thats rediculous.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Jarvis Moss to the Broncos.

[RP]

Jarvis Moss would have been there at 21. Unreal.

[Skippord]

Odd trade

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Time for the Bingeinnati Noringles to pick.

[RP]

Ok so i'd like to see Goodall come out and say " With the 18th pick of the NFL draft the Cincinnatti Bengals select... Anyone without a criminal record. Then Brady Quinn comes running out with the rope dangeling from his neck which was like 1 minute away from being used. Crowd starts cheering. The Bengals are happy cause he's white and doesnt have a criminal record. And everyone is happy.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

That would be a storybook ending for the ages.

[SammyG]

rofl @ Jarvis Moss's picture

[RP]

Quinn would have cuts on his wrists and neck, waving and smiling.

[SammyG]

And the Bengals take Leon Hall. Very good pick

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Leon Hall...

Not bad at all. Good player, no felonies...I think.

[Skippord]

Figured the Broncos would trade eleven picks there to get Leon Hall

[MTH15]

Not 1 FS besides Landry selected. Good for the Falcons so far.

[Skippord]

Leon is going to stab someone

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Breaking News: Leon Hall arrested for DUI

[RP]

Brady Quinn is probably beating up his girlfriend right now.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Okay, it's Titan time. Whooooo!

[Skippord]

Tennesee will take Brady Quinn

[UmbrellaCorporation]

I'm calling Meachem or Bowe for the Titans.

[RP]

lol Leon Hall is gunna walk outside and be arrested for jaywalking.

[RP]

OMG OMG BOB SANDERS IS IN THAT UNDERARMOR COMMERCIAL

[RP]

I SWEAR I SAW HIM

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Surprised he wasn't arrested right after he was picked. I would figure the Commissioner wouldn't want to take any chances.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

In all seriousness though, I have no problems with the Bengals at all. I just find that whole felony infested thing to be hilarious for some reason.

[RP]

Brady Quinn has been killed by Leon Hall.

[MTH15]

Lol the new one?

[UmbrellaCorporation]

The Titans Caravan came to my college the other day, and I got Vince Young, Bo Scaife, and two of the Titan cheerleaders to sign stuff for me, got a couple of pictures taken, and talked to them a minute.

Ironically enough, they were having us lock our classroom doors after classes started, due to Virginia Tech. Or so I thought. I firmly believe that we were having to lock our doors because they thought Pac Man Jones was coming to Dyersburg, and we were all afraid for our safety.

[RP]

Brady Quinn was ruthlessly murder tonight in the greenroom of the NFL draft. Early word is that he took the last cheese and cracker and was brutally stabbed in the juggler by a very angry Leon Hall wearing a Bengals hat.

[weather vane]

lol

they are now talking about Miami trading up to get Brady Quinn

[RP]

Leon Hall was heard screaming " THATS MY CHEESE AND CRACKER NUGGGGGGGGGGA "

[SammyG]

Anyone else thinking that KC is gonna be the one to take Quinn?

[SammyG]

Titans take Griffin

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Titans take Michael Griffin, Safety. :meh:

[Nervous Ferret]

hope the Giants do something stupid :(

[UmbrellaCorporation]

I hope KC doesn't take Quinn. I'm praying Miami tries to trade up for him and redeem themselves for earlier, or that Baltimore gets him.

KC wouldn't surprise me though.

[MTH15]

Please Brandon Meriweather or Nelson fall to the Falcons

[RP]

The New York Giants select Brady Quinn.

[RP]

they'll probably take Beason

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Leon Hall is gonna suck in the NFL

also, lol@The AFC East Champion Miami Dolphins

[MTH15]

And then trade him.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/football/nfl/img10155414.jpg

[UmbrellaCorporation]

This sums up my feelings on the draft.

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/3012/peardh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[RP]

http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/football/nfl/img10155414.jpg


LOL is that Marshawn Lynch?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Nice, I'm happy with Aaron Ross</font>

[RP]

Chris Houston and Beason more then likely headed to the Pats.

I think the Colts my get the kid from Penn St. ( Who is ripped and looks like a beast i might add ). I kinda wanna see them get Staley the tackle.

[MTH15]

Such a gangster

[RP]

Indianapolis is gunna get a nice choice of some really good WR's at 32 if they choose to look for a 3rd man to replace Stokley, but i have a feeling they might trade out of the pick.

[MTH15]

1 more good safety left. Brandon Meriweather. Plz trade falcons

[OssMan]

The Chiefs might select Brady Quin....Grey's Anatomy is a bad show

[RP]

Browns are offering a 1st rounder next year and a 3rd rounder this year to the Cowboys for there pick.

[MTH15]

Trade just happened. Cleveland Browns will get him.

[SammyG]

Browns trade. Its gotta be Quinn

[SammyG]

he does NOT look happy

[RP]

Brady Quinn:love:

[RP]

What a draft for the Browns, but Cowboys are getting a top 5 pick next year LOL

[MTH15]

Lol, No Wr's besides Tedd Ginn Jr' and CJ picked yet?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yah they gave up way too much to move back up. Still, guess they got both guys they really wanted, so I doubt they care

[RP]

I dunno, if the Browns can put it together, they have a really decent team. If Brady Quinn can just have a slightly above average season, they could contend for a playoff spot.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>In retrospect, I wish the Giants would have made the trade with the Browns</font>

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I just think they're still overmatched. Their defence has holes all over and when you're up against Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati you need at least an average defense, which they haven't got.

[MTH15]

They should draft a WR

[RP]

I think Quinn will be the best QB to come out of this draft.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Quinn didn't look too thrilled about going to Cleveland.


Hell, I know I wouldn't be.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I think it's more that he's lost out on $$$$$$

[RP]

Cheifs probably should take the kid from LSU at WR

[KingofOldSchool]

I think it's more that he's lost out on $$$$$$

Yeah Quinn grew up around Cleveland and being a Browns fan, he probably just feels slighted that the Browns passed him up at #2.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Meriweather probably won't make it past the Pats

Panthers will probably take Olsen, or maybe Beason

Who knows what the hell the Eagles will do

[RP]

Maybe New England will draft a TE

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Never mind mth

[MTH15]

FUCK FUCK FUCK. Our owner must have been dropped on his head as an infant. Passed up 3 good ass safeties. We could have easily traded up. Fuck hes a dumbass

[RP]

YOU CANT SAY FUCK YOU FUCKING YOU FUCK! Stop


fuck

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Olsen to the Saints would actually be very scary

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Really thought the Saints where gonna trade the Pats for their pick and draft Olsen. I figured Carolina would want him, and seeing how the Pats picked right before them it made sense but I guess it is gonna end up working out for the Saints

[RP]

Marshawn Lynch was just shot down in a foiled robbery attempt at the Compton Bling Bank.

[SammyG]

WHO DAT?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Went with Meachem...good pick but I would have went with Olsen

I am also a bit surprised to see 3 wideouts getting picked before Dwayne Jarrett

[RP]

Probably had something to do with Jarrett only running a 4.7 40

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Trying to think where Olsen will end up now - Panthers might get another shot at him in the 2nd

[RP]

Wow Alan Branch possibly dropping to Indianapolis? That would be a huge steal.

[RP]

I bet New England takes the kid from Penn St. Poslunsky

[Crimson]

wooo Cowboys take Spencer...and we have 2 first rounders next yr. Almost a for sure top 15 pick at the very least.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Went with Meachem...good pick but I would have went with Olsen
Do you really think the Pats Merriweather pick was the best pick??

I mean you hate on the Saints pick when the Patriots might have not made the best pick ever...


WHO DAT?!!1

[Crimson]

Pats have traded with niners...

[Crimson]

I dont understand why the Saints didn't just get Olsen I mean they need a TE don't they? They have some pretty good wr's already.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Going for Jarrett?

[OssMan]

yo i want the giants to trade up and get staley. or posluszny.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I dont understand why the Saints didn't just get Olsen I mean they need a TE don't they? They have some pretty good wr's already.

To be fair they signed Eric Johnson on a free - before he picked up so many injuries he was a pretty good receiver

[OssMan]

niners took staley

[RP]

Do you really think the Pats Merriweather pick was the best pick??

I mean you hate on the Saints pick when the Patriots might have not made the best pick ever...


WHO DAT?!!1


LOL

[RP]

The Colts have a serious chance at getting a huge need in Alan Branch if he falls.



WTF HOW DID NEW ENGLAND MANAGE TO GET A 1ST ROUNDER OUT OF SAN FRANSICO??? THIS SHIT IS FIXED!

[RP]

What in the hell is San Fransico thinking? They better make a fucking helluva run to the playoffs and in the playoffs next year. Jesus.

[RP]

I dont think Baltimore, San Diego or Chicago need a DT.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Depends if Tank Johnson makes it out of the big house

[RP]

Houston and Branch still there and Indianapolis really needs both.

[RP]

Branch was rated higher at his position then the 19 year old kid with a weird name, on some boards.

[RP]

Alot of people had Branch as a early first rounder and some even had him as a possible Top 5.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Branch is hit or miss though, I heard a lot of talk about him being fat and lazy which I could see

[Crimson]

Fuckin Pats get ANOTHER 1st rounder. Too much what the niners gave up..a 2nd i understand but a friggin 1st??

Chargers up next..they need lb' and wr..i'd go with LB like Puz but they'll probably go with Jarret

[RP]

He had his best season last year so i dunno.

[RP]

But i'm sure the Colt will pick someone totally off the charts that no one expects.

[RP]

Greg Olson is already putting a Bears hat on. So the Colts are gunna have there choice of two great players that they need. Houston or Branch. But like i said, they'll probably pick someone unexpected. But i trust Polian when it comes to drafting.

[Crimson]

Craig Davis?? even Steve Smith woulda been better.

[Crimson]

Olsen and Branch next 2 picks.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Anyone catch Olsen holding a bottle of unopened Vitamin Water? That company is ruthless with the ambushing marketing lol

[RP]

No but i caught Marshall Faulk making sexual advances at Brady Quinn.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I am watching the ESPN coverage, I came home from school for the day so I can't watch NFL Network (only get that shit in my dorm)

[RP]

It pretty horrible so you arent missing anything. Accept for when Faulk tried to pull Brady Quinns balls out of his pants.

[RP]

Called it!

[RP]

Indianapolis will pick one of the following 5 players in the first round of the draft tommorow.

Jon Beason
Anthony Gonzales
Lawrence Timmons
Chris Houston
Robert Meachem



If i was a betting man, i'd say the Colts select Anthony Gonzales with there 32nd pick.

[Nervous Ferret]

Poz to the Bills :eek:

[Butch]

Eagle's still haven't learned how to draft I see :nono:

A fucking quarterback with a third round grade in the 4th pick of the second, when we already have 3 starting caliber signal callers on the roster. Why not a safety like Weddle?

[MTH15]

Wow no more good FS's left in the draft. Our managers are crack babies

[RP]

I think Billy King and Isaiah Thomas would have picked Quinn over Ginn. LOL the Dolphins crack me up. I guess losing organizations make losing decisions. Remember when they where close to challenging the Patriots a couple years ago? LMAO. Now they'll have to wait 5-10 more years. I hope Brady Quinn rips this league apart and goes to like 7 Pro bowls and wins the Browns a championship. So that i can feel this level of laughter every season when i watch the Dolphins play a football game. My god, Cam Cameron and whoever the fuck else is making personal decisions should be fired tonight. Talk about having no clue how to run a team. Jesus Christ.

[RP]

I know it wont help anything, but it think the Dolphin fans should organize a massive get together at there stadiums ticket office and line up to have there season tickets canceled. In the last 3 hours the Dolphins have managed to do the impossible. That is, replace the Detroit Lions as the most pathetic football franchise in the NFL. And they had to leap frog a couple of teams before they could even reach Detroit. Then they leaped Detroit. Amazing. Sucks to be a Dolphin fan.

[KingofOldSchool]

Soooo what was the deal that the Colts and 49ers pulled off, because I can't find the details for the life of me.

Kinda pissed we gave up our 1st round pick next year to get Staley.

[RP]

Dont know but they drafted a tackle from Arkansa

[KingofOldSchool]

We could've used that pick on Dwayne Jarrett. :o

[Kris P Lettus]

yeah, Vick didn't live there, his Cousin who got busted for Drugs (which is what lead police to get the search warrant) . The cousin was dealing weed, I doubt he had the money for all this. Also, it's being reported his name had been tied to dog fighting before. Vick continues to prove he's an idiot, and if any charges are pressed against him, I assume he's done for at least 8 weeks if not the whole season. The NFL is finding starting to make examples of people.


I bet it was Aarron Brooks..

[Kris P Lettus]

Happy about Meachem since we filled alot of the holes in our D with free agency.. Don't know about this CB we got in the third though.. I figured we'd get Road Warrior Hawk's son, the LB from Ohio in the first.. Him or that TE the Bears got.. It's good to have depth at WR though..

[MTH15]

Welp we got a good CB and DE and OG and a WR

[SammyG]

I'm Happy with Carriker Leonard and Wade.

[Nervous Ferret]

Jets move up in the 2nd round to get David Harris

Jets had 4 picks on Day 1 and they only got 2 players, hopefully 2 studs though, Harris and Revis

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Pretty satisfied with the Giants' Day One. I really like Ross and Smith. Admittedly, I don't know a thing about Alford and apparently he was projected for the 6th round but who knows. They just need to make sure to grab a LB tomorrow and an OT as well.</font>

[MTH15]

We could've took Jarret or Smith

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Eagle's still haven't learned how to draft I see :nono:

A fucking quarterback with a third round grade in the 4th pick of the second, when we already have 3 starting caliber signal callers on the roster. Why not a safety like Weddle?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BTej926Pvo

[Mr. Monday Morning]

http://www.dailynorseman.com/images/admin/Miami1.jpg

[MTH15]

:rofl: He said "thats suprising"

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Moss to the Pats for a 4th

Yikes

[RP]

LOL Eagles fans. That was the ultimate " Ohhh crap " moment.

[RP]

I'm so happy that Moss is going to the Pats. I'm sure all the Pats fans are like " He wont pull that mess with Bellichek " and i'll be laughing my fucking ass off when he does and becomes a cancer to that team. Potential best highlight of the upcoming season. Cant wait. It will happen. Trust me. I'll stake money on this.

[RP]

Nevermind the fact that a ton of the Patriots offense revolves around short and medium in routes and digs through the middle. Something Randy Moss dont do. I predict Moss will short arm atleast 30 passes this season.

[MTH15]

Imagine if they throw the long ball to him....scary

[MVP]

Nevermind the fact that a ton of the Patriots offense revolves around short and medium in routes and digs through the middle. Something Randy Moss dont do. I predict Moss will short arm atleast 30 passes this season.

The reason for those short and medium routes is cause we did not have a consistent deep WR after we lost Branch. We had Gaffney in the playoffs, but that only got us so far. This year with Moss and Stollworth we can actually afford some diversity in our passing plays.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Gotta go get a Anthony Gonzalez Colts jersey now.

WHITE LIGHTNING

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yeah Quinn grew up around Cleveland and being a Browns fan, he probably just feels slighted that the Browns passed him up at #2.
Why do people keep saying this? He grew up in the suburbs of Columbus. Does ESPN even try to research their facts anymore?

[VonErichLives]

I'm so happy that Moss is going to the Pats. I'm sure all the Pats fans are like " He wont pull that mess with Bellichek " and i'll be laughing my fucking ass off when he does and becomes a cancer to that team. Potential best highlight of the upcoming season. Cant wait. It will happen. Trust me. I'll stake money on this.

It's a good risk, it cost a 4th rounder and the Pats are the only team he was willing to go to that he would re-do his contract.

The Pats have a great vet core and he'll be kept in line, plus Moss has a history of playing well when he has a chance of winning.

The worst case, he becomes a cancer and the Pats cut him, I'm willing to risk a 4th round pick on that.

Moss, Stallworth, Welker, best WR core the Pats have possible ever had, going back to the days of Fryer & Morgan.

I'll give you the "he could become a cancer" but if he does, the pats will cut him, I honestly don't think it will happen, not this year, now, 2-3yrs down the road I won't take that bet :) but this year I think he'll be fine.

As for the routes, the offense will always adjust to the players.

[KingofOldSchool]

Pretty happy that we got Jackson from Seattle.

I think he could be a solid #1 receiver for us.

[RP]

If he becomes a cancer it will most likely set your team back a year. Also, its just hilarious how they chose him over Deion Branch. And the fact that he's a go route WR ( and thats basically all he is ) and the fact that the Pats run a spread offense. Very funny. But hey, you'll figure that out the first time he's asked to run a 7 yard in route and shorts arms a dropped pass over the middle.

If theres one reciever that absolutely doesnt fit what the Pats are doing, its Moss. Which makes this move such a head scratcher to me.

[RP]

Why do people keep saying this? He grew up in the suburbs of Columbus. Does ESPN even try to research their facts anymore?


Short answer. No. Long answer. Whats research?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I am not too fired up about the Randy Moss deal, but we will see.

If he is a "cancer" I don't think he'll be setting the team back at all, they will just be losing a 4th rounder since he will get cut. I can take that gamble

[Kris P Lettus]

It was a great deal for the Pats.. I don't like Moss at all, but as you said, if he doesn't work out all yall lose is a fourth round pick.. With the offseason yall've already had adding a good vet can't hurt..

[RP]

I am not too fired up about the Randy Moss deal, but we will see.

If he is a "cancer" I don't think he'll be setting the team back at all, they will just be losing a 4th rounder since he will get cut. I can take that gamble


No, i'm talking about disturbing the team enough to really effect how they do this upcoming season or next.

[Kris P Lettus]

Not gonna happen..

Moss is on his last leg.. He wants a ring.. He'll prolly be a model player for them..

[RP]

Dude, he played with a MVP canidate Pro bowl QB and he melted down. I dont even think Moss would respect Manning and Dungy. Guys like that dont change at all. Talk to me when he's taking plays off and pouting and not going over the middle. I cant wait for Bob Sanders to kill this dude. Its gunna happen.

[Kris P Lettus]

Culpepper??

Who are you talking about??

[McLegend]

Yes he is talking about Culpepper.

[RP]

I'm talking about Brad Johnson Krispy.


fuck

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Corey Dillon was a cancer too

[RP]

not nearly as much is Moss is known for.

[VonErichLives]

If he becomes a cancer it will most likely set your team back a year. Also, its just hilarious how they chose him over Deion Branch. And the fact that he's a go route WR ( and thats basically all he is ) and the fact that the Pats run a spread offense. Very funny. But hey, you'll figure that out the first time he's asked to run a 7 yard in route and shorts arms a dropped pass over the middle.

If theres one reciever that absolutely doesnt fit what the Pats are doing, its Moss. Which makes this move such a head scratcher to me.

They didn't choose Moss over Branch, two seperate situations, not sure how you came up with that one.

If Moss is a problem it wont set the team back at all, it was a 4th round pick, they'll cut him or suspend him and be done (look at Terry Glenn).

As usual, we agree to disagree, you save my post and I'll save yours and one of us can feed the other crow at the end of the season. :)

[VonErichLives]

Also, what he brings isn't just production (there's a report he's in his best shape ever and running a 4.29-40yds). Him and Stallworth along with Welker will make it difficult for teams to double team Watson who can be a monster of a pass catcher if he can start holding onto the ball more.

[Nervous Ferret]

Jets only with 4 picks in the draft :o

[McLegend]

Man I can't wait to watch watch the Patriots this year.

Gonna be entertaining.

[MTH15]

The falcons should do pretty good this year...I hope. We could've got Moss if we had a bigger cap. We have Joe Horn though.

[road doggy dogg]

Corey Dillon was a cancer too

Pretty much all that needs to be said on the Randy Moss situation. Great move by the Pats, who already had a crazy offseason.


Kinda excited about Calvin Johnson. For a while there I was hoping the Lions would trade up like Cleveland did for Quinn lol, but w/eeeeeeeeeeee. Hot draft.

[RP]

They didn't choose Moss over Branch, two seperate situations, not sure how you came up with that one.

If Moss is a problem it wont set the team back at all, it was a 4th round pick, they'll cut him or suspend him and be done (look at Terry Glenn).

As usual, we agree to disagree, you save my post and I'll save yours and one of us can feed the other crow at the end of the season. :)


They will be paying Moss as much or probably more then what they had to pay Branch. They opted to pay a reciever with less production, more off and on field problems, whos older and doesnt fit the spread offense that you run. Over Branch, who had developed chemistry and trust with Brady, fit the system perfectly and never once gave any on or off field problems to New England.

Getting Moss is such a reach. I think it will backfire.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'm really happy with the Giants' draft this year.

Also, it was announced that Kiwanuka is moving to strong-side LB</font> :cool:

[Crimson]

as long as he doesn't rush the quarterback huh

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

They are moving him to LB? Wow that is real surprising to me, I don't think its a good fit

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Also I don't get what Branch has to do with the Randy Moss deal. They traded Branch for a first round pick (Just saw today that Seattle traded Darell Jackson for a 4th rounder, Moss came to the Pats for a 4th rounder...looks like a 1st rounder for Branch is a pretty good deal for the Pats) Plus maybe the Patriots noticed they were really lacking at wideout this past season so they wanted to improve on it. Even if they still had Branch I would assume they would still go after Moss seeing how Moss is the 4th wideout they've snagged this offseason.

Just noticed Chargers got new uni's...

http://images.sportsline.com/b/ap/photos/Chargers_Draft_Football4019728_lower.jpg

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I dunno, I think it makes sense. You've got a logjam at DE as is...if Strahan or Osi goes down Tuck is the heir apparent (though I've heard he might potentially be in a deal to the Browns to get Shaffer to man LT this year). If that happens, Kiwi would go back to DE should an injury occur and another LB would be the starter.</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The Chargers new unis are annoying. They said they wanted to go classic but they still have navy jerseys? I mean I like white helmets but you gotta rock the powder blue or don't change at all.

[RP]

Why Moss? Why not Darrell Jackson? It was no secret Jackson was being traded. He's a far better reciever and has deep threat abilities, plays in a very similar system and is easily a #1 on 50% of the NFL's teams. He's younger. Yet they take Moss. Moss dont have " It " anymore. Atleast with Corey Dillon, he still was producing. Darrell Jackson would have been a far better trade.

[RP]

The new uni's look like the old uni's?

[SammyG]

They are just about identical. They just dont have the number on the helmet.

[D Mac]

Trent Green is still a Chief. Whew.

[VonErichLives]

They will be paying Moss as much or probably more then what they had to pay Branch. They opted to pay a reciever with less production, more off and on field problems, whos older and doesnt fit the spread offense that you run. Over Branch, who had developed chemistry and trust with Brady, fit the system perfectly and never once gave any on or off field problems to New England.

Getting Moss is such a reach. I think it will backfire.

Ok, let me try explaning this to you one last time. The Pats were willing to pay Branch, they were not willing to void the last year of his current contract which is something they never do, something that Brady understood, something that Seymore understood, something that has never changed with how they do business. The pats by far made the right move, especially where they got a #1 pick for him.

Moss is still productive and will be on the Pats.

Also, as for "paying him the same money". Did you see the deal Moss is signing? 1 year, 3 million with incentives to reach 5mil.

The more I hear form Moss the better I feel about him, he's here to win, he's talking the talk "I don't care how many balls I get" "I don't care about the money, I just want to win a ring" etc... etc... Now, does he "walk the walk, all season we shall see.


We could've got Moss if we had a bigger cap.

No, you couldn't have.

The Patriots are how the 49'ers were in the 80's. Vets took pay cuts to go play for the 49'ers because they had great ownership, great coaches and the won championships.

Let's remember, this Pats team was 1 or 2 plays from going back to the super bowl, and all they have done this off-season is gotten better.

Thomas, Stallworth, Moss all took less money to play here then they could have gotten elsewhere.

I'm not saying the Pats will win the superbowl, every good team is 1 or 2 key injuries from an 8-8 season.

[Gonzo]

I can't think of the Patriots losing anyone key that really sets them back. I mean they lost Dillon, but they have Maroney so...

[Gonzo]

How does everyone feel about their teams draft?

I think the Giants did quietly ok. Didn't really move around but addressed some key positions. I think we had a solid first 2 picks. I honestly don't know much about our lower picks and from what I've read our 3rd pick was a bit of a stretch but who knows.

I'm optimistic about this coming year, we have new coordinators in place so there really isn't any excuses to be had now.

[OssMan]

Kiwanuka was a good DE, i dont know.

[VonErichLives]

How does everyone feel about their teams draft?

I think the Giants did quietly ok. Didn't really move around but addressed some key positions. I think we had a solid first 2 picks. I honestly don't know much about our lower picks and from what I've read our 3rd pick was a bit of a stretch but who knows.

I'm optimistic about this coming year, we have new coordinators in place so there really isn't any excuses to be had now.

I really like the Zack Deossie pick, I was hoping the pats would get him. He's not the biggest player, but great speed and very smart.

I'd think he'll develope into a ted bruschi type.

[Gonzo]

I really like the Zack Deossie pick, I was hoping the pats would get him. He's not the biggest player, but great speed and very smart.

I'd think he'll develope into a ted bruschi type.

Heres to hoping.

[SammyG]

I think the Rams had a way good draft. Carriker is awesome, Brian Leonard is a beast, Wade is fast as hell, Clifton Ryan will need some work, but he will kick all sorts of ass.

[SammyG]

By the way, wasnt Merriweather one of the guys involved in the big Miami brawl? He stomped on someone I think

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Pretty crazy that DeOssie got drafted, he lives (well I guess lived now) with a kid I played high school ball with down at Brown

Yeah Merriweather was in the brawl, and did get in trouble for having a gun or something. That pick still kind of surprises me, I'm not that surprised about the Randy Moss thing though. 4th round pick and only paying him a couple mil, I dunno its a risk but if he has anywhere close to what he used to be its gonna be sick. Even if if he isn't, they've still made huge upgrades to the receiver core. Really looking forward to this season

[MTH15]

The Patriots will own with Meriweather. You know why? Cause hes from The U

[VonErichLives]

The Patriots will own with Meriweather. You know why? Cause hes from The U

By "The U" I wish you mean the Univ of Michigan, since they're players tend to make better Pros then the illeterate, fellons from the Univ of Miami.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Standout Michigan grads on NFL rosters:
Tom Brady
Jay Feely
Larry Foote
Ian Gold
Brian Griese
Steve Hutchinson
Marlin Jackson
Jon Jansen
Cato June
Ty Law
Jon Runyan
Anthony Thomas
Amani Toomer
Charles Woodson

Standout Miami grads on NFL rosters:
Bubba Franks
Frank Gore
Devin Hester
Edgerrin James
Andre Johnson
Ray Lewis
Willis McGahee
Bryant McKinnie
Dan Morgan
Santana Moss
Clinton Portis
Ed Reed
Warren Sapp
Jeremy Shockey
Sean Taylor
Jonathan Vilma
Reggie Wayne
Vince Wilfork
DJ Williams
Kellen Winslow


Doesn't really seem like much of a comparison to me. Brady is the only one who would fit in the upper echelon with most of Miami's players. And you can talk about Miami's rep a lot and it's true they have a lot of problem players but it's not fair to bring that up all the time while ignoring guys like Edge, Wayne, Vilma, etc. who have been model citizens in the NFL and guys kids could look up to.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah VEL that was a really stupid comment

[RP]

If i'm wrong about Moss then i'll be the first to admit it. But i dont think Moss even compares to Dillon. Dillon was just vocal about wanting out cause they were playing Rudi Johnson.

And you say Moss is still productive. Ok. In 2006 Moss played 13 game, 42 receptions, 553 yards and 3 touchdowns.

In 2005 he had 16 games, 60 receptions, 1005 yards and 8 touchdowns.

Thats about the production of an average #2 reciever.

[road doggy dogg]

I think you're under-estimating the effect of what playing for the OAKLAND RAIDERS will do to your career.

[VonErichLives]

Yeah VEL that was a really stupid comment

Was taking the gamble that falcons boy wouldn't stop to do the research and would shut up about "The U"... he didn't, someone else saved him..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

He was injured a lot last season, plus he was on the fucking Raiders...even so, he isn't getting paid like a #1 wideout so I'm not real worried about it. I dunno I am liking Stallworth on one side and Moss on the other.

[McLegend]

The Pats should have drafted a QB who has never taken snap under center for like his entire life with their first pick.

Then you guys would be on to something.

[SammyG]

The Patriots should have signed KHALI

[RP]

Was taking the gamble that falcons boy wouldn't stop to do the research and would shut up about "The U"... he didn't, someone else saved him..


You sure showed him.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

The Pats should have drafted a QB who has never taken snap under center for like his entire life with their first pick.

Then you guys would be on to something.The Patriots drafted a QB who never started a game at USC last year :shifty:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/42/424022.jpg
STOMPIN ON NIGS

[SammyG]

Haha, he should stomp on Moss