NFL 2007 Offseason Thread

[mrslackalack]

Right now what would every1s preseason playoffs be? Here is mine

AFC

1. New England Patriots (AFC East Champs, HF Adv, First Rd Bye)
2. Indianapolis Colts (AFC South Champs First Rd Bye)
3, Denver Broncos (AFC West Champs)
4. Cincinnati Bengals (AFC North Champs)
5. San Diego Chargers (Wild Card Berth)
6. Baltimore Ravens (Wild Card Berth)

NFC

1. New Orleans Saints (NFC South Champs, 1st Rd bye HF Adv)
2. Chicago Bears (NFC North Champs, 1st Rd bye)
3. St. Louis Rams (NFC West Champs)
4. Dallas Cowboys (NFC East Champs)
5. Seattle Seahawks (Wild Card Berth)
6. Carolina Panthers (Wild Card Berth)

[Nervous Ferret]

AFC:
1. New England Patriots
2. Denver Broncos
3. Tennesse Titans
4. Cincinatti Bengals
5. New York Jets
6. Indianapolis Colts

Jets def. Bengals
Titans def. Colts

Jets def. Pats
Titans def. Broncos

Jets def. Titans

NFC:
1.Philadelphia Eagles
2. San Francisco 49ers
3. Carolina Panthers
4. Green Bay Packers
5. Chicago Bears
6. Arizona Cardinals

Pathers def. Cardinals
Packers def. Bears

Eagles def. Packers
49ers def. Pathers

49ers def. Eagles


SUPERBOWL

Jets def. 49ers

[McLegend]

Krispy is gonna cry.

[mrslackalack]

49ers are def the sleeper team this year IMO.

[Nervous Ferret]

But it would be much easier for you to basically predict a repeat of last years playoff seeds? Gurantee at least 5 of the 12 teams that made the playoffs last year miss them this year based soley on the apparent law of parity in the NFL

[D Mac]

1. Kansas City Chiefs
2. Everybody else

[D Mac]

Kansas City Chiefs vs. Denver Broncos
Sunday, November 11, 2007

Arrowhead Stadium
1 Arrowhead Dr
Kansas City, 64129

GOING, WOOOOOOOO

[Skippord]

Jay Cutler is going to cut up the Chefs defense

[SammyG]

Just like Vince Young is gonna beat up his own defense

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/TEN/10277590

literally

[SammyG]

Also, Colts are releasing Corey Simon..

[weather vane]

AFC

1. New England
2. Indianapolis
3. Baltimore
4. Denver
5. Cincinnati
6. San Diego

NFC

1. Chicago
2. New Orleans
3. San Francisco
4. Philadelphia
5. Seattle
6. Detroit

[SammyG]

Keep sleeping on the Rams. It's best to be under the radar.

[RP]

Also, Colts are releasing Corey Simon..


saves about 5 million of cap space, plus he was such a waste.

[SammyG]

Pardon me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he a Pro Bowler?

[RP]

Yah before he came to Indianapolis. Then he was out all last year for an unspecified illness ( probably fatness ) and he failed a physical this year so he's pretty much done.

[Kris P Lettus]

I am crying on the inside, legend..

I am going to Saints practice tommorow afternoon..

I'll try to take some pics and whatnot..

WOOOOO Dat

[MTH15]

GL with that

NFC
1.ATL
2.Falcons
3.Falcs
4.Aints
5.Atlanta
6.Atlanta Falcons...JK Vince Young ROCKED Kinney at practice for that dirty hit. I was lmao

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Did you even see it? He bitchslapped the guy's facemask. That might be what your 6th grade class considers getting rocked but Young barely touched him.

[MTH15]

Ok maybe he didn't rock him but it was pretty funny. Someone from the offense came and smacked Kinney though. As in a hard tackle. And I'm in 10th grade asswipe :)

[Supreme Olajuwon]

that's a pretty strong word for someone your age to be using

did you learn it from the PG-13 movie you snuck into

[MTH15]

No. Anyway, Football

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I'm really hoping Ahmad Brooks becomes a Shawne Merriman clone this season. He's got the same measurables as Merriman and had arguably as much success at the college level despite getting kicked off the team. He's gotta be the one to step up for the D this year because with Thurman gone again they need a playmaker to get things done or else it's 8-8 city again.

[VonErichLives]

saves about 5 million of cap space, plus he was such a waste.

remember the load you blew when the colts first got him?

gotta admit, I wouldn't have thought he was that washed up already.

[RP]

No he has some illness. No one even knows what it is. He was good the first year, then the second year he didnt play at all cause of some mysterious illness or ailment. No clue what it is.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I'm really hoping Ahmad Brooks becomes a Shawne Merriman clone this season. He's got the same measurables as Merriman and had arguably as much success at the college level despite getting kicked off the team. He's gotta be the one to step up for the D this year because with Thurman gone again they need a playmaker to get things done or else it's 8-8 city again.
I think you may be right about Brooks, he was dirty in college but still it's pretty funny to see a team with discipline problems picking up a dude who was kicked off of his college team.

[mrslackalack]

While the Bengals defense wasnt great last year and the obvious off the field issues. They did go 8-8 with the #1 or #2 SOS in the NFL last season and blew 3 games with errors that should have been W's (at TB, at Denver, and Pitt) Brooks does have a lot of potential to be great.

[RP]

I root for the Bengals to be good and make the playoffs, because Carson Palmer is so damn good at QB that i want to see him win. Seriously, if theres another QB i like a whole damn lot other then Peyton, its Carson Palmer. I dont think people really realize how good Carson Palmer is.

[OssMan]

No. Anyway, Football

[mrslackalack]

IMO I consider Palmer the 3rd best QB in the NFL after Peyton and Brady. I know some would put Brees or McNabb ahead of Palmer but I think he will be a MVP and Superbowl winning QB one day.

[VonErichLives]

IMO I consider Palmer the 3rd best QB in the NFL after Peyton and Brady. I know some would put Brees or McNabb ahead of Palmer but I think he will be a MVP and Superbowl winning QB one day.

After he leaves via free agency and goes to another team.

Speaking of the Bungles... doesn't look like Odell Thurman will be back anytime soon..

[RP]

Odell Thruman is getting last call as we speak.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

great point VEL especially since I've mentioned that twice since he got another year suspension

but no you were the first to mention it

WHO DEY

[RP]

Hey guys i'm not sure if you knew this, but Odell Thurman is an alcoholic. And he got suspended this year.

[Gonzo]

I think you may be right about Brooks, he was dirty in college but still it's pretty funny to see a team with discipline problems picking up a dude who was kicked off of his college team.

Yeah I was going to mention thats a funny coincidence. Fill me in, what did he do to get kicked off his college team?

[MTH15]

The Hall of Fame. I want to get into the Hall of Fame. Cant wait till the Hall of Fame game.

[mrslackalack]

I dont recall them ever saying what Brooks did besides it was several off the field problems.

[mrslackalack]

Its a shame that Thurmans going to miss 2 seasons in a row now due to problems. Only Merriman IMO was a better DEF Rookie player than him in 05 and for most of the season until the end that was a close race between the 2.

[MTH15]

Wow 2 seasons. This offseason was long as shit.

[Kris P Lettus]

Here are some pics I took at Saints training camp today..

Cool Brees

http://a193.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/105/l_15f020a731edee525174736d4467a0a0.jpg

RB Drills

http://a846.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/106/l_9ef9c8922ddeed59055c48620ab31a55.jpg

http://a328.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/128/l_8b29f22bf9be54a37ca50c4370d03227.jpg

Coach Payton

http://a323.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/71/l_52d9b04adb6ca24d7a1a57fd8c834082.jpg

I'll post more tomorow which a detailed review of Fridays late practice..

Who Dat??

[mrslackalack]

I was very surprised Jerry Jones didnt make a big offer for Payton to be the Cowboys Head Coach considering he was an asst there and in 1 season as the Saints HC he led them to a huge turnaround and their best season in history.

[Kris P Lettus]

Payton is a man of great scruples..

No way he'd leave NOLA..

[mrslackalack]

My list of coaches on the hotseat

Gibbs
Gruden
Coughlin
Crennel
Del Rio
Fox

[Crimson]

Saban

[Gonzo]

Uh Saban went to Bama buddy...

[RP]

Fox is not on the hot seat

[Kris P Lettus]

Some more pics..

QB's

http://a50.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/125/l_859ecdf1e99e884780b1cf8ac3ea88a1.jpg

http://a605.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/111/l_02f674ccc5b3232390fc4363353ae82c.jpg

The D

http://a954.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/111/l_803c2ca5ef79890151a54d2804cfbc09.jpg

Saint Reggie

http://a267.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/104/l_2c6490176b32039c6f5b4e40631612da.jpg

Antonio Pittman

http://a434.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/103/l_f341bd047e6273a9f277b5a25a423261.jpg

Play Action

http://a491.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/103/l_755cb102de1f848275170d70cc21df7a.jpg

Marques "The Beast" Colston

http://a90.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/115/l_945ebd9a46a91f503c066b629c002519.jpg

[mrslackalack]

LOL at Crimson

[mrslackalack]

I remember hearing that the Panthers organinzation was livid that they did not even make the playoffs after being touted as a SB favorite. Id say one more 8-8 season or less and they will get rid of Fox. I think Fox would not be unemployed for long if he got fired as Id say thats who the Giants would hire if they got rid of Coughlin considering Fox used to be a coordinator for the Giants.

[VonErichLives]

Hey guys i'm not sure if you knew this, but Odell Thurman is an alcoholic. And he got suspended this year.

Please make sure you credit Supreme for this info, I wouldn't want him to think you're trying to steal his tpww mojo.

I was very surprised Jerry Jones didnt make a big offer for Payton to be the Cowboys Head Coach considering he was an asst there and in 1 season as the Saints HC he led them to a huge turnaround and their best season in history.

It's tough to rank a coach based on the first season, a lot has to do with players the team already had, unless they make big free agent moves or draft picks, which in most cases goes to the GM or President.

Question is how would Payton had done if they didn't get Brees and Bush? Also, how does he do this year, better or worse?

Another factor is his contract, while it does happen, the NFL really frowns on Coaches leaving for another time while under contract hence why you see teams give up 1st round picks when it happens (Parcells, belicheck, although the Jets settled for a 4th round pick for Edwards).

Payton is a man of great scruples..

No way he'd leave NOLA..

Right now why would he? He makes decent money for a head coach and has a solid young team that is a contender.

But do you really think it a much better oppurtinity came along he wouldn't take it?

Let's say Belicheck or Dungy were going to step down and either owner offered him the be Head Coach & Team Preisdent with a double in salary... don't think he'd take it?

You could be right, neither one of us are in this guys head or personal friends that we could ask him, but I'd be suprised.

[mrslackalack]

That is true in the NFL if a coach leaves for another team in the league they have to give up draft picks. Herm to KC and Gruden to TB were the 2 most recent examples.

[Kris P Lettus]

Tom Brady would play for the Browns if the money was right but that doesn't mean it's going to happen..

Depending on this year, I predict Payton will be our coach for a long while..

[mrslackalack]

I believe the Cowboys #1 choice for HC was Lovie but he said no.

[mrslackalack]

I just hope Payton dont end up like Haslett who had a good first year but then a dissapointing few years and gets fired.

[Kris P Lettus]

This was written by a guy I know who writes for the local paper here..

Forget 2001 — these are different Saints

By Rick Cleavland

Say this for New Orleans Saints fans: Over the years, they've developed a sense of humor, which we may presume has been essential for their sanity.

Each time I have written something pointing out a Saints' strength during this training camp, fans have responded saying that I am raising false hopes, that the Saints are setting everyone up for a fall, that would I please, please quit jinxing them.

Wrote one fan, who says he has watched the Saints since Day One: "Please, stop about the Saints. You're killing me. Yes the Saints improved from 3-13 to 10-6 and won a playoff game in their first year under Sean Payton. But have you forgotten that in 2000, in their first year under Jim Haslett, the Saints improved from 3-13 to 10-6 and won a playoff game? Same exact deal. We all know what happened next. They fell flat on their face. I wish it weren't so, but they may not win a game this year."

How's that for footballl fatalism?

My take: Two huge differences exist between 2001, when the Saints lost their final four games to finish 7-9, and 2007:

1) Sean Payton is not Jim Haslett;

2) Most importantly, DrewBrees is not Aaron Brooks.

Saints general manager Mickey Loomis, who was with the Saints then and now, would add a third difference.

"I think first of all this is a better team, period," Loomis said. "This is a team that is ascending. In some respects that 2000 team overachieved, played beyond their abilities."

PAYTON PURSUES PERFECTION

Loomis surely is right, but Payton and especially Brees are still the biggest differences between these Saints and those of six years ago.

First, Payton: The Dallas Cowboys have to be kicking themselves for letting this guy get away one year before Bill Parcells called it quits. Payton, last year's NFL Coach of the Year, has surrounded himself with an outstanding staff that follows his lead.

Payton is a stickler for detail. He's a perfectionist. Everything has to be just right. He will jump a star wide receiver who doesn't line up right in practice. He puts a huge emphasis on character and on discipline.

These Saints are disciplined; those Saints of six years ago were far from it. Haslett was a good football man, but he ran a loose operation. Those Saints often couldn't do the simplest tasks.

Think back: How many times do you remember those Saints being called for the same penalties time after time after time? So many times, they couldn't even line up right, and then, if they did, they often jumped the snap count.

It was like a broken recording in the Superdome: False start, New Orleans, repeat first down. . . False start, New Orleans, repeat first down. . . False start, New Orleans, repeat first down.

Haslett's biggest mistake: He hitched his wagon to the exasperatingly inconsistent Aaron Brooks, who eventually cost him his job.

IF BREES GOES DOWN, ALL BETS OFF

And that brings us to Brees, who is the biggest difference of all in these Saints and those. He gets the Saints in the right formation; he calls the right audibles; he sees the whole field; he makes quick decisions; he throws to the right guy; he carries out his fakes; and he is amazingly accurate.

And when Brees does make a mistake, which isn't often, Brees doesn't come off the field smiling like it was no big deal, which is probably what irritated me most about Brooks.

Brees makes everyone around him better. He makes the defense better because the offense stays on the field longer. He makes the offensive line better because he doesn't hold the ball and has such a quick release. He makes the receivers better because he so often hits them in stride. He makes the coaches better because of all the above.

Drew Brees makes the Saints better, period. These Saints won't repeat what happened in 2001 unless he goes down.

[mrslackalack]

Bill Cowher is gonna be the big HC that every1 will want next offseason. I heard the Browns would prolly give him the President, GM, and HC role for him to go there which would REALLY tick off Steeler fans.

[mrslackalack]

interesting article

[The Miz]

is there doubt in anyone's mind that Brady Quinn is not going to make it

[mrslackalack]

Hodge has already given up on Brady Quinn saying he will be out of the league in 5 yrs.

[MTH15]

Krispy, if I were you I'd be all like give me your autograph and put it on EBAY.

[DrA]

Remember Al Davis' Hall of Fame speech on John Madden last year?

I gave John Madden is first professional...head..job.

[VonErichLives]

Tom Brady would play for the Browns if the money was right but that doesn't mean it's going to happen..

Depending on this year, I predict Payton will be our coach for a long while..

1) your Brady example is poor because you through out the key detail in my Payton example, it would not just be the money, but a same or better chance to win.

Now, if you said Manning retires and the Colts offer Brady double the money, that would be a fair example/comparison, but the Browns have a shit team and much less chance to win then the Patriots.

2) Nice prediction "depending on this year"... Well, I predict the Patriots will win the superbowl depending on how far they make it in the playoffs... :roll:

[mrslackalack]

Preseason starts tomorrow night! Saints and Steelers!

[MTH15]

Im not going to look at it.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

My brother just told me I'm not gonna be able to watch the last Patriots regular season game because its gonna be on NFL Network (which I dont have)...first I heard of this...is this true? Fucking bullshit if it is, how are you not gonna show a game in the local market?

[The Miz]

Go to a bar

[OssMan]

games on NFL network on shown in the local market, they just play the NFL network feed on UPN or something

[MTH15]

Or you can go get Comcast and get the Triple Play w NFL Network

[VonErichLives]

My brother just told me I'm not gonna be able to watch the last Patriots regular season game because its gonna be on NFL Network (which I dont have)...first I heard of this...is this true? Fucking bullshit if it is, how are you not gonna show a game in the local market?

I was pretty sure the nfl network games were still on in the home markets... I could be wrong though...

kinda like MNF is on ESPN but still on local TV for the teams involved.

[RP]

stima i'm pretty sure the Patriots will be out of playoff contention by then so dont worry about it.

[Kris P Lettus]

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[Gonzo]

About 1:40 where he bowls over #37 from the Eagles, pretty sweet. lol @ the end tho, the huge pack where everyone is pushing/pulling.

[Kris P Lettus]

:cool:


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I also found this one too..

Alot of oldskool Deuce clips..

[VonErichLives]

have any clips of the Saints v. Jags in 2003? That missed kick by Carney?

I fully expect to get Pats v. Bears superbowl highlights for that comment

:)

[Kris P Lettus]

Wow, that insult towards a kicker who doesn't even play for us anymore really hurt, VEL..

Specially considering that missed PAT was after the best play of the entire season...

[mrslackalack]

LOL

[mrslackalack]

Yup usually they will put a game on National TV on ESPN or NFL network on a local channel for fans w/o the networks can watch it.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I know what they usually do, but my bro was trying to tell me they are changing it for the up coming season.

[Nervous Ferret]

Nervous Ferret has recently purchased NFL Sunday Ticket :cool:

Had it two years ago and was sweeto (Jets were always losing :shifty: ) didn't have it last year cause I was always working Sundays, making a concious effort this year to watch every second of every game

[Supreme Olajuwon]

wait for it... wait for it... BAM

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gotta love the guy's giggle

[OssMan]

i remember watching that, as soon as Brees let go of the ball i was just like holy shit he is gonna get killed. you could see it developing before he even threw it

[RP]

Bob Sanders is gunna kill that fragile little running back they have in New Orleans.

[SammyG]

Who Dat.

[VonErichLives]

Wow, that insult towards a kicker who doesn't even play for us anymore really hurt, VEL..

Specially considering that missed PAT was after the best play of the entire season...

Of course, silly me... I mean it's been soooooooooooo long since he played for the Saints... it's like it's been decades... :nono: years? :nono: umm.. months? :lol:

yeah, he was you kicker for 6yrs inculding last season.

Krisp, you can't enjoy the good times if you can't have the low times.

[Kris P Lettus]

WTF are you talking about??

[RP]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2962811

wow. We're already off to the worst start in the NFL and we havent even played a preseason game. Whats next, Addai tears his knee up before the regular season and we start James Mungro?

[SammyG]

Looks like the Colts are gonna have to score about 35 every game in order to win.

[Hanso Amore]

Ouch, let the Drama begin. I wonder how many bigger names go down.

Colts are going to have a hard time defending. The curse is coming.

[RP]

Well, atleast we have Bob Sanders

[SammyG]

Before he goes down with another injury.

[McLegend]

wait for it... wait for it... BAM

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gotta love the guy's giggle
That's beautiful

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

wait for it... wait for it... BAM

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gotta love the guy's giggle
Oh yeah at least Reggie Bush was in the playoffs unlike Rudi Johnson..

WHO DAT!?!11

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Also there was a pre-season game on last night? How the fuck did I have no idea there was a game on? Some good promotion by the NFL on that one

[Gonzo]

It was on NFL Network I think.

[Innovator]

Giants vs. Panthers this week, can't wait for the trainwreck of a season to start!

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

It was on NFL Network I think.
Oh great, NFL will soon just be straight up on PPV

[SammyG]

Got Sunday ticket and NFL Network. For Free. My uncle hooked us up bigtime.

[SammyG]

But since I'll be in college, I'll be going to the sports bar to watch all the games, unless I'm home. I can't fucking wait for this season.

[Kris P Lettus]

Also there was a pre-season game on last night? How the fuck did I have no idea there was a game on? Some good promotion by the NFL on that one

You didn't miss anything..

:shifty:

:(

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah I got NFL Network at school/can watch it at a bar or whatever but I'd rather have the option of watching it at home if I wanted to. It's not even so much the fact that a few games are only on NFL Network I just feel that eventually this will snowball and the majority of the games will be on NFL Network which you will have to pay like an extra 30 bucks for.

[Gonzo]

I don't think so. I can see this sticking to big games and special events (ie: Hall of Fame game). There would be far too much of an uproar (plus the NFL would lose a ton of TV revenue) because the channel isn't available to the widest audience. Still gay, but realilistically I don't think its happening.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I dunno they are already taking a home game away from a team and playing it in Europe so who knows what else they will do to the fans

[Nervous Ferret]

yeah but the Giants had it coming because they got an extra home game 2 years ago [/assman]

[OssMan]

Oh great, NFL will soon just be straight up on PPVyo I have been saying this forever, the Superbowl will be on PPV sometime in the next 10 years

[mrslackalack]

50/50 is Strahan right now on to come back or retire.

[mrslackalack]

I know it was preseason but the Saints looked awful last night. The good news for them is they did awful last preseason as well yet had a great season.

[D Mac]

Who Dat

[SammyG]

Rams/Vikes on Friday. My ex is gonna be there, pretty jealous. Meh, it's just preseason. I just hope no one gets injured.

[McLegend]

Preseason football is the worst thing ever to watch. It's very depressing.

[Innovator]

Preseason football is the worst thing ever to watch. It's very depressing.You can say the same thing for all Philly sports though

[McLegend]

Not as depressing as having Eli Manning being the QB for my favorite team.

[OssMan]

Remember that time when Eli Manning threw a touchdown pass to Plaxico Burress during overtime in Philadelphia

[McLegend]

And that was like his last good game.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Not a fan of Eli Manning skills at all, dude's kinda garbage

[Kris P Lettus]

Saints Pro Bwol LT Jammal Brown got carted off the practice field today with a knee injury.. Turns out it is just a bruise on his bone..

Thank God..

[mrslackalack]

Giants players are even getting fed up with Eli as QB. I seen on the news where Shaun O'Hara basically said that the Pillsbury Throwboy aka J-EL-LO aka Jared Lorenzen is the most impressive QB on the team.

[mrslackalack]

I say if the Giants have another a medicore season Eli gets benched or traded and Coughlins def gone.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

If Eli's last name wasn't Manning he would have been benched long ago

[OssMan]

J-Lo is an awesome QB, i have been saying this for some time. Prob a better runner than Michael Vick. He can bust through some dudes

[Kris P Lettus]

V sig V

[VonErichLives]

Yeah I got NFL Network at school/can watch it at a bar or whatever but I'd rather have the option of watching it at home if I wanted to. It's not even so much the fact that a few games are only on NFL Network I just feel that eventually this will snowball and the majority of the games will be on NFL Network which you will have to pay like an extra 30 bucks for.

Actually, if a majority of the games are on NFL network then NFL network will be free with basic cable.

The NFL makes their money of selling advertising, hence the reason to put games on their own network, they get the AD money instead of the networks.

If they make it difficult for people to watch the games and less people tune in the AD rate will go down.

[mrslackalack]

You get NFL Network with any Directv subscrpition.

[Kris P Lettus]

TAMPA, Fla. -- Tampa Bay Buccaneers fullback Mike Alstott is expected to announce his retirement Thursday, multiple Tampa Bay-area media outlets reported.

The team has scheduled a 2 p.m. ET press conference in Tampa, at which the retirement is expected to be announced.

The announcement comes after Alstott missed a third consecutive day of workouts Thursday as the team prepared for its exhibition opener Friday against the New England Patriots. His retirement is reportedly not injury-related.

Alstott, who was entering his 12th year with the Bucs, is the team's all-time leader in touchdowns with 71 and rushing touchdowns with 58.

He is second in team history with 5,088 yards rushing and third in scoring with 432 points.

wooooo

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/the_bonus/11/21/thomas/p1_thomas_adalius.jpg

[mrslackalack]

Warrick Dunn is rejoicing somewhere lol

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Wow, that insult towards a kicker who doesn't even play for us anymore really hurt, VEL..

Specially considering that missed PAT was after the best play of the entire season...
Tell me you've never made a Bill Buckner joke in your entire life and then maybe this won't look like such a ridiculous statement.

[SammyG]

Preseason should be 2 games. It's way too long. St.Louis visits Minny tonight.

[mrslackalack]

Preseason should def be only 2 games.

[RP]

I wouldnt be suprised if the Colts give Tank Johnson a shot. He'll be cheap and they need someone not named Warren Sapp. I mean, they were lining up LB's and shit at the DT position and the Boys were destroying them.

[SammyG]

Joey Harrington looked pretty impressive in his first series.

[Innovator]

Going to the Giants game

[Gonzo]

Sweet, take some pictures man.

[mrslackalack]

awesome

[Nervous Ferret]

Kellen Clemens 16-22 174 yards 3TDS HIYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


He'll be top 10 of all time in no time :cool:

[mrslackalack]

I love Clemens potential

[SammyG]

1-0 BABY WOO.

[Kris P Lettus]

1-0 BABY WOO.

lol

It's preseason..

[mrslackalack]

And I though your happy about that fact Kris because the Saints are 0-2 in PS.

[Kris P Lettus]

We were 0-4 last year in preseason and had the greatest season in franchise history..

p.s. last night, the scoreboard did not reflect how good our starters looked on both sides of the ball..

[Gonzo]

Palko was looking alright against the Bills. This brings up something that is such a pet peeve of mine. Announcers getting all over a player's jock like they're the next coming of Christ. Whoever was in the booth last night for CBS were stroking this guy so much it wasn't funny. I mean yeah he looked good, but he was playing against the 2nd and 3rd string defense.

Theismann and Collinsworth do this shit all the time.

[SammyG]

lol

It's preseason..

Haha, I know, I said that half-jokingly. Brian Leonard though is the man:love:

[mrslackalack]

LOL that was true about the annoucers Gonzo.

[mrslackalack]

And didnt the 1-15 Chargers from several years back go 4-0 in preseason?

[Gonzo]

LOL that was true about the annoucers Gonzo.

I want to get into their line of work. I'm fairly confident I could do a better job than half these cock jockeys, and thats what they are with the way they talk about some of these guys.

[Kris P Lettus]

Palko did look aiight minus the two INT's.. I think he just doesn't have the "QB vision" yet.. Also, I don't trust left handed QB's.. I mean, everything changes when he comes in for Brees.. Does Jamal Brown move back to RT?? Etc..

Devery Henderson looked awesome untill he tweaked his hammy last in the first quarter.. Reggie looked amazing both inside and outside the tackles.. I marked out when the lined him up at WR.. Kevin Dudley, our second string FB we got off of the Falcons practice squad, is a beast.. Jason David won the starting CB spot over Fred Thomas but got burned by Roscoe Parrish like 3 times.. The rest of the D, atleast our starters, looked good..

Also, I f'n hate that Brian Simmons, the LB we got from the Bengals, is wearing the late great Sam Mills number..

:(

p.s. Speaking of the Bengals, Kenny Irons tore his ACL and is out for the season..

[Kris P Lettus]

It's horrible when an annoucer is blatantly pulling for a team.. Collinworth seeminglt hates the Saints (he always picks against us on Inside the NFL).. During the Hall of Fame game he was so far up the Steelers asses, you could barely see his loafers..

Speaking of the Steelers, I hear they are getting a mascot..

WTF

Steely McBeam

LOL

[Kris P Lettus]

http://media3.steelers.com/MediaContent//2007/08/08/19/08_TC_45_79616.jpg

http://news.steelers.com/article/79593/

[mrslackalack]

Since that happened there are rumors that Corey Dillon might be heading back to Cincy.

[Gonzo]

Cris Collinsworth is such an asshole. Him and Theismann are the worst two announcers/commentators bar none.

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah, I hate Collinsworth..

Solomon Wilcox is the man though..

[mrslackalack]

Steely looks alot like Cowher.

[Gonzo]

Can't say I've ever listened to many of Solomon's games, ever actually besides last night. Its Wilcots btw, I thought it was Wilcox too until they flashed his name on the screen.

[Gonzo]

I don't know who has the better sideline gameface, Cowher or Gruden.

[Kris P Lettus]

Oh..

He's on the Afternoon Blitz with Adam Shine everyday on Sirius NFL Radio..

[mrslackalack]

I think the worst annoucers love and bias in all of sports has to be Dick Vitales love for Duke Basketball.

[mrslackalack]

What team do you think Cowher will coach next?

Browns?
Cowboys?
Redskins?
Panthers?
Bucs?
Another NFL team?

A college job? (I heard rumors that Cowher came REAL CLOSE taking the NC St job)

[Gonzo]

If he comes back to the NFL, probably the Browns.

[Kris P Lettus]

Anywhere but the NFC South..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Collinsworth is great. He knows more about football than pretty much any other NFL announcer out there and he had to carry Bryant Gumbel's awful play by play last year. Theismann sucks but Collinsworth is money.

[mrslackalack]

I could see him with the Browns (although that would be awful to Steelers fans,) I heard that they would give Cowher a huge deal that would not only give him the HC job but GM and President as well.

[mrslackalack]

I miss Paul McGuire as an NFL commentator. At least hes doing CFB right now. I though Paul was hilarous kind of like a Heenan for the NFL.

[Gonzo]

Collinsworth is great. He knows more about football than pretty much any other NFL announcer out there and he had to carry Bryant Gumbel's awful play by play last year. Theismann sucks but Collinsworth is money.

Collinsworth is a pompous asshole. Regardless of his knowledge, the way he comes off and presents himself makes him look/sound like a douchebag. To each their own.

[Kris P Lettus]

Collinsworth is great. He knows more about football than pretty much any other NFL announcer out there and he had to carry Bryant Gumbel's awful play by play last year. Theismann sucks but Collinsworth is money.

The best announcers are those who are knowlegeble but remain unbiased.. He has the knowledge, he just runs his mouth too much..

[Kris P Lettus]

http://a55.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/101/l_95120f2cb81b53a61a63faafc0bfbe26.jpg

[Kris P Lettus]

Palko in college..

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[Kris P Lettus]

Palko hurdles Pacman Jones..

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WOOOOOO Dat??

[mrslackalack]

LOL remember when Palko threw like 5-6 TDSs against Notre Dame several years back and then was cussing in the postgame interview.

[Gonzo]

From what I saw (mid 3rd quarter on) he displayed some nice athleticism.

[Hanso Amore]

Poz is looking like a beast. I know its pre-season, but he looked great against the Saints. That was a good game, both sides got some good looks at their backups. Poz had a great sack on Palko, and it seemed like he was around the ball all night. He is this years Demeco Ryans. He is really going to help the run game. Now we just need to find about 3 or 4 decent DTs and maybe we can stop the run before every racks up another 141 yards a game.

Roscoe Parrish is so much fun to watch. I hated that pick, but every game I since I start liking it more and more.

[mrslackalack]

I think the Bills got a steal with Poz. Had he not had his big injury and had gone pro after his junior year he was a bonafide lottery pick in the 06 draft instead of going 2nd rd in the 07 draft.

[mrslackalack]

Parrish could break out this season. He had some good games last year. Him and Evans could be potentally a top 10 WR duo of the NFL. They are not Harrison/Wayne, Johnson/Housmandzaeh, or Fitzgerald/Boldin but they could be a great duo.

[D Mac]

LOL Trent Green got a chorus of boos from Dolphin fans during his lackluster debut. Guess we did the right thing.

[Hanso Amore]

Parrish could break out this season. He had some good games last year. Him and Evans could be potentally a top 10 WR duo of the NFL. They are not Harrison/Wayne, Johnson/Housmandzaeh, or Fitzgerald/Boldin but they could be a great duo.

They might not put up as big of numbers, but the bills might have the Fastest WR core in the NFL.

[SammyG]

Holt, Bruce, Bennett : Best, or 2nd best WR core in the league.

[MTH15]

The falcons should trade for Palko lol. The jets had our way with us. I was lol'ing at the Skins game yesterday

[VonErichLives]

Holt, Bruce, Bennett : Best, or 2nd best WR core in the league.

I think there are a lot of good WR's groups out there.

Moss, Stallworth and Welker... the way the Pats spread the ball I wouldn't expect any of them to lead the league, but that's a top WR group...

[SammyG]

Dunno. I would put the Rams 2nd, with the Colts being first. Pats are way up there as well, too.

[DrA]

SammyG, I would focus more on the performance of your quarterback rather than the performance of your wide receivers if you want your team to do well this year.

Yes, the Rams got a defensive end and tight end in the offseason. Guess what, though? Every team in the league got a defensive end and tight end this offseason. Every team in the history of free agency has gotten a defensive end and tight end in the offseason. It is expected for teams (ie owners) to make what appear to be good signings that will make their team appear to be good.

But I've seen this oh so many times before, my friend. Fans tend to mush up good their team will be with how many recognizable players their team has signed before the season starts. It's psychologically satisfying until about week four when it is apparent that team will be no better than 7-9.

Let me just ask you two questions, SammyG. One, can your defense do well without the assumption that a big name player will have a big season? Two, can your quarterback make clutch decisions when they really matter and not hide behind the same statistical wall that he has been for over three years? If you answer no to these questions, then all of those free agent signings your team has made will just result in another year of mediocrity.

[SammyG]

Our biggest weakness was defending the run last year, and the additions of Carriker and Hall will help stop the run, in my opinion. We are indeed hoping for some of the younger players to step it up, Fahkir Brown is gonna be out 4 games, so we need Tye Hill, Bartell, Walls, and our orther corners to step it up. But I am loving Carriker at Nosetackle, the guy is a fucking beast. Also, for Bulger, I am completely confident in him. Marc Bulger makes great decisions, ever since Martz stopped being coach. I am very confident in this year's team. More confident than I've been in a long time.

[Crimson]

8-8

[MTH15]

Just ignore Mr.mth. Rams go 10-6.

[SammyG]

NFC West Champs.

[mrslackalack]

Id put the Rams 5th in WR combos

1. Colts
2. Bengals
3. Cardinals
4. Pats
5. Rams

[MTH15]

Yea me too
1. Falcons
2. Falcons
3. Falcons
4. Falcons
5. Rams. :rofl:.....we're getting our asses pawned this year

[SammyG]

... Are you serious now.

[MTH15]

I was sleepy as shit when I posted that, and no im not cerial. Only good WR we have is Joe Horn and hes like 40.

[mrslackalack]

You all have Alge Crumpler though who is a top 5 TE in the league IMO

[Gonzo]

I was just browsing the Giants schedule for kickoff times, they have 5 fucking primetime games. I don't really mind them that much, but shit, when they go to midnight and you have to get up for work or school the next day they sometimes suck. 5 games has to be the highest amount in the league, or at least tied for the most.

[OssMan]

Nah I think the Falcons are due for their 4th consecutive season of 10 primetime games

[Gonzo]

lol they only have 3 but that was pretty good anyways. :lol:

[mrslackalack]

It does suck for East Coast fans.

[mrslackalack]

Id say the Colts or NE have the most.

[Gonzo]

I think 5 is the most, NE and Indy both have 5 too.

[mrslackalack]

interesting

[SammyG]

Rams only have 1 nationally televised game. Well not really, it's on NFL Network.

[DrA]

That's the thing I hate about the Dallas Cowboys: they play less on Sunday afternoon than any other team in the NFL, which means that six weeks of the season are spent on watching the shitty Giants play the Brooklyn Bridges or whoever the fuck on FOX, or the Houston Texans going against the Indianapolis Colts on CBS (I'm pretty sure those two teams play each other at least five times a year).

[RP]

I think 5 is the most, NE and Indy both have 5 too.


And neither of NE or IND's 5 are the New England vs Indianapolis season matchup. You know what, thats a fucking crime against football if you ask me. How does that game not atleast get put after week 11 so that they'd atleast leave themselves the option of making it a Monday night game. Seriously, as a football fan period, you have to agree with me here. Thats a fucking joke.


But, i love who we do have on the primtimers.

New Orleans- Probably beat them by 28. Reggie Bush will get "Lito'ed" about 3 times by Bob Sanders and Manning will torch there piss poor D.

Jags- Jags vs Colts divisional rivalry game on prime time is always good. One of the best division rivalrys in football. Next to the New England game every year, i really really love the Jags games. They're always good.

San Diego ( whales vagina )- What an epic matchup. This is the one i really really wanna see. Not just because it could show the world that the Chargers arent better then the Champs, but because i still have visions of Michael Turner streaking down the sideline for touchdowns and i want him deaded by Bob Sanders.

Atlanta- Basically, i'm looking forward to seeing MTH literally cry in the NFL thread. This will be a 50 point blow out. Mark my words. 50 points. Jim Sorgi will throw for 3 tds in the second half of this game. And Manning will probably have 6 in the first half. Its gunna be rediculous. It will be just like a game of 2004 Madden with your buddy, when he's using Vick and all he does is bootlegs and you obliterated Vick and injured him for the game and then proceed to drop 75 points on him. Yah. Just like that.


Baltimore - OOOOOOOOOOOHHH YAH! Lets start those diesle engines and surround the field with the Mayflower truck right now before that idea gets old and retarded. Oh wait.. That was old and retarded before they did it last year in the playoffs and got punked and out toughed on there home field agains the " finesse " Colts. If i could have one football moment to see in person, it'd be the moment the crowd started coming out of that stadium after the loss and the Mayflower trucks were backed away and taken back where they belonged having really served know purpous at all. lol How depressing of a moment that must have been.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

DrA I feel you with the New York Giants thing, they are on FOX every fucking week here. I guess it sorta makes sense, since anyone who was a football fan before the 1960's is probably a Giants fan since the Patriots weren't around. However, the amount of those people alive is dwindling every year, I want to see a different NFC team every once in a while.

[Gonzo]

stima in all fairness you live in Mass, would you expect to see another team on Fox? Fox covers NFC teams, and the Giants are the NFC team in your area. I wouldn't expect to see any team other than the Pats, Bills or Jets on CBS because I live in New York. Its local coverage, it makes sense.

DrA I have no idea where you live so I don't know if this applies to you.

[mrslackalack]

Cant believe the NE/Indy is not primetime.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

stima in all fairness you live in Mass, would you expect to see another team on Fox? Fox covers NFC teams, and the Giants are the NFC team in your area. I wouldn't expect to see any team other than the Pats, Bills or Jets on CBS because I live in New York. Its local coverage, it makes sense.

DrA I have no idea where you live so I don't know if this applies to you.
Well yeah I get that they are showing mostly NFC East games since I live "in the area" but why? I don't really care about the NFC East that much, just because I am a 4-6 hour drive from most of the teams in the NFC East doesn't make me want to watch them more than other divisions within the NFC. In New York its different, since there is team(s) in both the NFC and AFC. It's not like that here

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Cant believe the NE/Indy is not primetime.
East Coast Bias

[Gonzo]

Well yeah I get that they are showing mostly NFC East games since I live "in the area" but why? I don't really care about the NFC East that much, just because I am a 4-6 hour drive from most of the teams in the NFC East doesn't make me want to watch them more than other divisions within the NFC. In New York its different, since there is team(s) in both the NFC and AFC. It's not like that here

I understand where you're coming from. But I mean, the majority of people in New England, if they aren't a fan of the Pats, are going to be a Jets, Giants, Bills fan. It only makes sense for Fox to air mostly Giants games in this area. It just sucks for people not in that majority.

[MTH15]

I remember i missed the ATL @ Bmore game because they didnt show it...I was in DC. I was blown

[SammyG]

Joey Harrington.

[D Mac]

The NEW Arrowhead Stadium. :drool:

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/images/2FADE4A3C2F44B6995C499DEF310BF4E.JPG?0.8177958362244303

[OssMan]

So they're building an exact copy of the current stadium

[SammyG]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7125686

I would love to hear that song. Let it Shine baby. MAKE IT RAIN

[Gonzo]

The NEW Arrowhead Stadium. :drool:

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/images/2FADE4A3C2F44B6995C499DEF310BF4E.JPG?0.8177958362244303

They should shape it like an arrowhead.

[mrslackalack]

that would be awesome

[VonErichLives]

hmm.. looks like Hero might have banned RP...

let me test and find out.

Colts Suck

Bob Sanders is a pussy

Brady > P. Manning

3 rings in 4 years > 1 ring

Colts Suck...

I hope he's back soon, football season is no fun w/o him... it's like the Red Sox not having the Yankees...

[D Mac]

The NEW Arrowhead Stadium. :drool:

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/images/2FADE4A3C2F44B6995C499DEF310BF4E.JPG?0.8177958362244303

It's not an identical copy dumbass.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

So it's not having a roof? I thought the whole thing was they wouldn't get funding unless they could guarantee a Superbowl, and to get one they needed a roof. Or something.

[Hanso Amore]

So it's not having a roof? I thought the whole thing was they wouldn't get funding unless they could guarantee a Superbowl, and to get one they needed a roof. Or something.


No shit, I remember them saying they needed a retracktable roof.

[D Mac]

Guess they changed thier mind.

From kcchiefs.com:

1. Audio/Visual enhancements including a 360 degree ribbon board
2. A “Hall of Honor” that will offer our fans a chance to experience the rich history of the Chiefs.
3. Significantly improved team training facilities comparable to the very best in the NFL.
4. A field at the Chiefs training complex available for youth football teams in our community.
5. A new “Horizon Level” on the south side of the stadium that will provide fans an opportunity to view the game from a festive, open-air concourse.
6. Additional seating at every vantage point in the stadium for our fans with disabilities.
7. And finally, architectural enhancements that will ensure that Arrowhead retains its status as the most beautiful stadium in the NFL

All of these improvements are focused on our two primary goals:

1. To augment Arrowhead’s reputation as the best gameday experience in the NFL
2. To have a football team that our fans can be proud of and one that is capable of bringing home the trophy that bears my father’s name.

[Skippord]

Now if only they could make the Chiefs not terrible

[DrA]

I am actually kinda tired of all of these new stadiums being built. Pretty soon every team in the NFL is going to be in a dome with a retractable roof and artificial turf.

[Hanso Amore]

Now if only they could bring Derrick Thomas back to life...



Fixed

[Skippord]

Well played my tranny loving friend

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The Chiefs aren't building a new stadium. They're renovating the old one.

[Hanso Amore]

IS KC considered Small market? Seems like the Old AFL teams were mostly what would now be considered small market. The Bills lost a good ally when the KC owner died, as he and Ralph Wilson were old school AFL owners. They were there for the merger, and with Cincy's owner were fighting for revenue sharing.

When the Giants owner died, as with KCs owner (im drawing blanks on their names, im sorry) there was a big hullaballoo. Ralph Wilson has been just as important to founding the AFL, and making the merger, and to this day still owns the team. yet he is overlooked in history. I think had we won 1 of the 4 Bowls, that would be different. Being 2nd best isnt good enough I guess.

[mrslackalack]

Great points MAH. BTH the Giants owner name was Wellingtom Mara and the Chiefs owner name was Lamar Hunt.

[mrslackalack]

I consider KC a small market.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I am actually kinda tired of all of these new stadiums being built. Pretty soon every team in the NFL is going to be in a dome with a retractable roof and artificial turf.
lol you are the most miserable person on the face of the Earth

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Patriots released Josh Miller (P) today, leaving the job up to two guys who have never punted in an NFL game before. One of them is Tom Malone, who was pretty sick while at USC so I don't understand why he didn't punt for anyone last year.

[Gonzo]

Great points MAH. BTH the Giants owner name was Wellingtom Mara and the Chiefs owner name was Lamar Hunt.

Mara worked hard to preserve the overall NFL product. Owning a New York team (which can probably shit on everyone in terms of revenue, although I don't have any numbers in front of me) and advocating for revenue sharing was a wise move. Its either that, or be like major league baseball, with a pretty much total lack of parity.

[D Mac]

I consider KC a small market.

Is that some kind of crack? :mad:

They sell out every game so no, don't think so.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Mara worked hard to preserve the overall NFL product. Owning a New York team (which can probably shit on everyone in terms of revenue, although I don't have any numbers in front of me) and advocating for revenue sharing was a wise move. Its either that, or be like major league baseball, with a pretty much total lack of parity.

Pretty sure Redskins make the most money

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Giants are only the 17th most valuable NFL team so it'd be pretty easy to promote revenue sharing when you're in the bottom half of the league.

[Hanso Amore]

Is that some kind of crack? :mad:

They sell out every game so no, don't think so.


You can sell out every game and still be small market. Ticket revenue is a small piece of the pie.

The Bills sell outnearly every game, have some of the most die hard fans but are considered small market due to a smaller surroundung populace that doesnt haveas much TV and radio revenue.

Teams like KC, Buffalo and Green Bay are all small market despite having top 5 or so fan support. They are some of the most die hard fans.

Teams Like Dallas, Washington and NY dont have as loyal fan base (seems like some of them are fair weather due to the large numbers of transplants in those major cities) but rake in the dough.


on a side note, I would like to point out that I think the best fans are in the small markets. They have that home grown local love, its like being at a high school game. They also are on average less wealthy than the "big City" fans. It takes someone special to fork over a paycheck to watch a losing team in the blisstering cold and snow. Ill get blasted for this one, but top 5 fan bases (not by size, but by loyalty to the team.)

This is not in order, but is all top 5.

1) Buffalo - Obviously I would put my team in here. The Bills keep WNY alive. 4 Super Bowl Losses, tons of snow, and losing seasons but yet we still believe. Alot of Bills players move to Buffalo and never leave.
2) New England - I fucking hate NE fans because they seem to forget the down years, and only talk about how great they are, but they are still die hard and like Buffalo sit through the snow. that playoff game i nthe snow was magical.
3)KC - Loudest Fucking Stadium I have ever been in. These guys are crazy drunks from the Ozarks and shit.
4) Eagles - You would think they play year round. They never sut the fuck up.
5) Cleveland - The Dawg Pound. 2 teams, one love. I think they might be starting to throw in the towel though.

Flame on, I know its coming.

[Skippord]

*1. Denver Broncos

[mrslackalack]

MAH is exactly right DieselMac. KC is a small market but it doesnt mean its not a great franchise or has a lot of great fans. In baseball the Cincinnati Reds are considered small market and a low payroll but they have a great history with a lot of HOFs and great fan support even when they are losing. KC has a rich tradition in the NFL. And lately they have been an exciting franchise to watch with 2 great RBs in the past few years with LJ and Priest and a top 3 TE in the league in Gonzo.

[D Mac]

Don't forget KC is #1 in tailgating. :)

Every time I go to a game I just wear my Chiefs gear and I can get free food and beer in the parking lot. :lol:

[Nervous Ferret]

Fans are exactly the same everywhere you go

[D Mac]

http://kansascity.about.com/od/sports/p/Chiefs_Tailgate.htm
Tailgating at Arrowhead : Kansas City loves football--and with one of the loudest football stadiums anywhere and being consistently voted the Top Tailgating City in the US--I get goosebumps just thinking about waiting in line to fire up the grill and looking at the plume of smoke over the parking lot. It's football season, KC--time to fire up that grill and as they say...the smoke will always rise at Arrowhead.

[Kris P Lettus]

New Orleans- Probably beat them by 28. Reggie Bush will get "Lito'ed" about 3 times by Bob Sanders and Manning will torch there piss poor D.
lol

[D Mac]

Chiefs gonna defeat Saints this Thursday!

Who Dat?

[Kris P Lettus]

Good teams win in the regular and post season, not in August..

FYI

[Kris P Lettus]

Marques "The Beast" Colston did this in ONE TAKE..

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[Kris P Lettus]

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[Gonzo]

Pretty sick.

[Kris P Lettus]

I watched all of them and they are all pretty f'n cool.. I like the Andre Johnson one..

[Kris P Lettus]

These are pics I took at last Sundays practice at Millsaps College in Jackson, MS..

Steve Weatherford

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Some Second Stringers

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Defense

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Saint Roman and Usama Young

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Charles Grant

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I bet standing next to Hollis Thomas, Jason Fife is glad he plays for the Saints..

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Pick Drills

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Strech those hammys..

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[VonErichLives]

I am actually kinda tired of all of these new stadiums being built. Pretty soon every team in the NFL is going to be in a dome with a retractable roof and artificial turf.

oh yeah, and new stadiums are just horrible :roll:

the old Patriots stadium (Foxboro, Sullivan, Schafer it had a few names) was a dump, they built it as cheap as they could.

Gillete is unreal, now given last night it was 7.50 for budlight and $40.00 to park, but there is not a bad seat in the house, all seats are angled to the 50yd line, plenty of bathrooms, more types of food then you could want/need, just a great stadium and I would only hope for the money most teams get for tickets every fan has that great of a stadium to go to (even though we'll never get a superbowl because no dome).

The Krafts are also smart, they're building a mall where the parking was at the stadium and made more/new parking accross the street and they're also building a hotel, so you'll be able to watch the game and walk over to your hotel room and not have to worry about driving home...

As for KC, wasn't it KC who had the plan for a dome that was going to cover the football and baseball stadiums by being mobile? or was that somewhere else?

on a different story, they're saying Vick is trying to get a plea deal, but having trouble since everyone else has already turned a deal on him, so they're saying even if he works out a plea he still looking at a year in jail. good news, I just want to see him go to jail for this and not get to walk.

[mrslackalack]

I was impressed with the Saints tonight against the Bengals. The one thing that still concerns me about the Saints however is their passing def which haunted them last yr as well.

[Kris P Lettus]

The game wasn't even on here..

Who wants to watch the (ass) Rams and the Chargers??

About the D-backs, I was pretty pleased with the offseason moves but they have looked pretty bad so far.. I mean, when Fred Thomas, the worst CB we had last year, is the bright spot, something is wrong.. But, the Colts won the Super Bowl last year with a horrid run D, so as long as we put up more points than the opposing team, as is well..

[road doggy dogg]

lol @ Brady Quinn not practicing at all and still being miles better than Cleveland's other QBs

[SammyG]

Rams looked rather shitty today. Bulger had a pretty terrible INT. Whatever though, not gonna get too worried, it's just preseason.

[Gonzo]

The game wasn't even on here..

Who wants to watch the (ass) Rams and the Chargers??

About the D-backs, I was pretty pleased with the offseason moves but they have looked pretty bad so far.. I mean, when Fred Thomas, the worst CB we had last year, is the bright spot, something is wrong.. But, the Colts won the Super Bowl last year with a horrid run D, so as long as we put up more points than the opposing team, as is well..

9 times out of 10 an amazing offense will not win you a Superbowl if you have a shitty defense. There are definitely exceptions but that seems to be the rule.

[SammyG]

Yeah, who would wanna watch Rams Chargers. Especially if it was regular season, I mean, Steven Jackson going up against Ladanian Tomlinson. Yeah, terrible matchup. Those teams are not fun to watch at all.

[Kris P Lettus]

9 times out of 10 an amazing offense will not win you a Superbowl if you have a shitty defense. There are definitely exceptions but that seems to be the rule.

Well, we have a solid front 7, it's just that our D-backs seem to give up way too many big plays.. As I said, I didn't see last nights game but from what I've heard Jason David did an excellent job against Chad Johnson.. Also, I believe Roman Harper will be a beast as long as he can stay healthy..