NFL 2007 Offseason Thread

[CSL]

<font color=white>Would the Giants ever be interested in Keyshawn Johnson?</font>

[SammyG]

X-FACTOR

[VonErichLives]

<font color=white>Would the Giants ever be interested in Keyshawn Johnson?</font>

I don't see why not, he can still preform the question becomes money.

Honestly, I thought he did really good on draft day and wouldn't be shocked if he hung it up and took a TV job.

There was a joke/rumor going around yesterday that the Pats were going to sign him.

I can see it now... Moss, Keyshawn and Stallworth all come back to the huddle "Come'on Tommy I was open" says all of them... and Brady responds "I know, I know, you were all wide open and I chose to throw into triple coverage... what can I say, I'm just used to throwing to Troy Brown" :)

[RP]

Probably wouldnt sit well with Plaxico giving the fact that Keyshawn was dogging him on ESPN's draft coverage saying he takes plays off and what not.

[Gonzo]

I don't want Meshawn Johnson, and I don't think that the Giants would go after him anyways.

Did anyone watch the draft when the Panthers drafted Dwayne Jarrett, and what Keyshawn was saying?

"This is a great pick. We need another wide receiver," Johnson gushed while working as a draft analyst for ESPN. "This guy is much like me. I'm going to teach him how to play from the point of attack."

When I read that he got released it was LOL the whole time.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

He seemed alright taking a backseat to Steve Smith, I am kinda surprised they cut him.

[SammyG]

I don't want Meshawn Johnson, and I don't think that the Giants would go after him anyways.

Did anyone watch the draft when the Panthers drafted Dwayne Jarrett, and what Keyshawn was saying?

"This is a great pick. We need another wide receiver," Johnson gushed while working as a draft analyst for ESPN. "This guy is much like me. I'm going to teach him how to play from the point of attack."

When I read that he got released it was LOL the whole time.
lol yeah i :lol: ed too

[MTH15]

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/42/424022.jpg
STOMPIN ON NIGS

Hes now my current favorite safety. Keyshawn Johnson and Marcus Vick are now FA's....Falcons could use Keyshawn and I want Marcus just to see what he can do.

[SammyG]

lol if both vicks are on the same team

[MTH15]

I can imagine it. Marcus dropping a pass. Mike calls him a fucking stupid and they get to civilian rivalry. And if we had Keyshawn. Woooweee hed give us hell but I'd take it.

[Kris P Lettus]

LOL

"civilian rivalry"

[SammyG]

lmfao @ "civilian rivalry" cmon now mth

[OssMan]

Both Vicks on the same team could either be a huge success or a huge failure....The Simpsons is the shit

[SammyG]

Both Vicks on the same team would be MAKE IT OR BREAK IT

[MTH15]

Omfg I have a spell check on my cpu right and couldn't spell it so I highlighted it and clicked on civilian and thought it was right. My bad....and is it just my cpu or when you have the green background does it always do spell check. Maybe Vick might convince Petrino.

[SammyG]

LOL MTH

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I could see Johnson going to the Falcons, I dunno about Marcus Vick...I don't think the front office is that stupid

[MTH15]

Keyshawn to us is at like 50% for me.

[D Mac]

Chiefs should get Keyshawn.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

He wants to play for a team that has a chance of winning though.

[McLegend]

O snap

[SammyG]

I do not want him in St.Louis

[OssMan]

With the falcons Keyshawn will own. Who Wants to be a Millionaire is the shit

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

It wasn't funny the first time AssMan

[D Mac]

He wants to play for a team that has a chance of winning though.

I know. So the Chiefs are in there.

[Skippord]

But the Chiefs suck

[SammyG]

Minus their X-Factor they do.

[D Mac]

NOT!

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Dude I know you're a KC fan and all, but look at Herm's track record. Seriously. I'd be worried.

[SammyG]

STLLLLLLLLL

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Looks a little weird seeing these college stars outside of their old college uni's

http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/football/nfl/img10166225.jpg
Troy Smith

http://images.sportsline.com/b/ap/photos/Lions_Mini_Camp_Football4859176_lower.jpg
Calvin Johnson

http://images.sportsline.com/b/ap/photos/Lions_Mini_Camp_Football4655070_lower.jpg
Drew Stanton

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/VAPM115050414_lower.jpg
MTH's boy, LeRon Landry

http://images.sportsline.com/b/ap/photos/Browns_Quinn_Football0348893_lower.jpg
Brady Quinn

[RP]

Mike Martz totally has an erection in that Stanton pic. Look at his face.

[SammyG]

lol Mike Martz

[Hanso Amore]

Very excited about the Bills Draft. great value on each pick.

I really wanted Peterson, but I love Lynch. I like his all purpose skills, kind of like Thurman Thomas. Alot of people think he will maeka better pro than AP, I really hope so.

Poz on the 2nd....Awesome. I thought they might take him at 12, and they get hom falling. I dont know how he made it that far down. he is a beast. He is smart and strong, and he will do mroe to stop the run than Lond Fletcher. Fletch was great in coverage, so I am hoping Poz can pick it up and learn quickly. He is going to be to the Bills Cover 2 what Urlacher is to the bears. Couldn't be happier.

After that we got a 2nd round caliber QB in round 3 in case Losman fails, and maybe he becomes trade bait a la Matt Schaub. Too good of value to pass up. would have loved another LB but it looks like marv Levy is set with crowell/Poz/Ellison. Great young LB core.

The Bills fight for a Wild card spot this year, im calling it. After being run poorly for so long it is good to see some positives.

[RP]

Lynch will be in jail before he gets out of his rookie contract. I'm willing to make a bet on this.

[Hanso Amore]

Why would you say that? He has had ONE incident. ONE. Ray Lewis had none in college and he killed someone. Plenty of guys dont have any trouble in the NFL after Poor college years. I am less worried about him that alot of other AFC East Picks. Merriweather is a fucking thug. Revis and Ginn are just as likely to get a DUI or in a fight as Lynch.

Lynch has "Mama's Boy" tattooed on his back, is already buying a house for him and his mom and brother (so that his Bro can get to a better place and start over). He wants to live in Buffalo year round. I love how the Pats trade for a malcontent and draft a hoodlum, and they are fine, the Bills draft a solid kid that had one bad day and he is going to jail. Maybe it is the dreadlocks that do it, racists!

And I will even humor you a bit. Lets say Lynch is trouble...Well Dick Jauron is a great coach to play for. His players love him, every one of them. He is a players coach. Not always the best thing, but he won't have a hard time reaching the kids. They won't see him as an authority figure that they have to buck.


Also, Im suprised no one has said anything about AP going to the land of 1000 sex boats. For some reason there is a bias against the Bills. I swear to god if the Colts had Lynch, good on him. The Bills? Hes going to jail.

[SammyG]

That's how RP is, you should know that by now.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

So if a bunch of your friends got into a fight you would just stand there and watch?

[Hanso Amore]

So if a bunch of your friends got into a fight you would just stand there and watch?

No, but I would not kill anyone.

[Hanso Amore]

On June 14, 2006, Lynch was the victim of mistaken identity when unknown assailants shot at his car outside his alma mater, Oakland Technical High School, as he was about to visit his little sister on her graduation day. He was not the intended target of the shooting, and no one was injured. The shooter phoned Lynch's mother to apologize.[7]

On January 25, 2007, Lynch was accused of sexual assault by his former girlfriend. The incident reportedly happened on December 13, 2006, outside the woman's home in Emeryville, California. On January 29, 2007, an Alameda County Deputy District Attorney who specializes in domestic violence cases declined to press charges, citing a lack of evidence and "grave inconsistencies" in the alleged victim's accusations.[8] Lynch was never arrested or charged.

On March 3, 2007, an Alameda County judge threw out a restraining order that Lynch's ex-girlfriend had issued against him, due to the fact that it was obtained improperly.[9]

Lynch has a giant "Mama's Boy" tattoo on his back.[10] Lynch is very close to his mom Delisa who will move to whatever city Lynch plays in.[11]


What a Thug. Some bitch cries rape (they all do) and he is a career Criminal.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I was talking more about Meriweather then Lynch, I personally don't care about what Lynch has done because I've never heard him referred to as "thug" (well other then RP) Meriweather got involved in an on the field fight. Granted the stomping was pretty ridiculous but fights do happen in sports - it just so happens that one got ugly. Then he had a gun incident but it was proven to be used in self defense, and the gun was legal and registered.

So what I was trying to say is I don't get why you brought the Patriots draft pick up in this conversation.

[Hanso Amore]

Im not so much dogging Meriweather as I am using him as an example. Meriweather might not be a jerk, but I would say he has a worse track record than Lynch, and if your going to dog Lynch, you should him to. It was all geared to RP and his ridiculous comments about Lynch.

[RP]

Anyone else notice i never called him a thug? I know i did.

[RP]

But foreal, hide your white women.

[VonErichLives]

Looks a little weird seeing these college stars outside of their old college uni's


Just because it's them or do you feel this way after every nfl draft?

By the way, since your a local... what's your thought on the Pats retiring Bledsoe's #?

[OssMan]

Maybe it is the dreadlocks that do it, racists!
lol at irony here, who said that dreadlocks have anything to do with race

[Gonzo]

Yeah, my brother has dreadlocks and we're white.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Just because it's them or do you feel this way after every nfl draft?

By the way, since your a local... what's your thought on the Pats retiring Bledsoe's #?
Is this already in the works? I am figuring you are just asking my opinion about it since I've heard nothing about it...Personally I don't really know, Patriots don't exactly have a long list of retired numbers so I think they should keep it exclusive to players who played the majority of their career with the Patriots (Granted, Bledsoe probably played about 80% of his career in New England, but I'd like to see it more like 95-100% of their career here)

[RP]

lol at irony here, who said that dreadlocks have anything to do with race


yah whos said he was a thug either? lol i just said he was going to jail. I didnt say how or why. MatthewAllenHansbro turns into the TPWW Jessee Jackson. I'm waiting for him to say i called him a nigger. :lol:

[Kris P Lettus]

Saints Sign Veteran Punter
Dave Lawrence, NewOrleansSaints.com
May 4, 2007 – 10:45 am

The New Orleans Saints signed veteran free agent punter Chris Hanson (http://neworleanssaints.com/playerbio.cfm?playerid=463) to a one-year contract Friday. The signing was announced by Executive Vice President/General Manager Mickey Loomis (http://neworleanssaints.com/frontofficebio.cfm?frontofficeid=49).

Hanson, 30, is a six-year NFL veteran, having played 85 of his 86 career games with the Jacksonville Jaguars. The 6-foot-2, 202-pound left-footed punter out of Marshall has never had a punt blocked in his 428 career kicks, averaging 42.9 yards per punt with a net average of 35.9 and a long kick of 74 yards, with 136 of his punts being placed inside the opponents' 20-yard line compared to just 50 touchbacks. The 2002 Pro Bowl selection signed with Jacksonville in 2001 and held down the punting job with the Jaguars for the past six seasons. The Senoia, Ga, native also served as the holder for place-kicks during his tenure in Jacksonville. He has played in all 16 games in five of his six NFL campaigns.
Hanson originally signed out of college with the Cleveland Browns as an undrafted free agent and has also spent time on the rosters of the Green Bay Packers and Miami Dolphins, making one appearance for Green Bay as a rookie in 1999.

[SammyG]

meh.

[Gonzo]

You know I don't quite understand why people/announcers make mention of the fact a kicker/punter hasn't been blocked in x amount of kicks or whatever. I mean every once in a while they will do a great job of getting the kick off in the face of pressure, but I think thats more kudos to the special teams unit than the kicker/punter. If someone gets through and is going to get ya, they're going to get ya usually.

[Gonzo]

In other news: I guess Plaxico is attending the "voluntary" offseason workouts. This is good news to me, because for the past few seasons Plaxico has been working out in Florida. I'm curious as to see if this develops better chemistry between Eli and Plax.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2864295

"I'm not trying to make a statement," Burress said Tuesday after catching passes with Manning. "I want us to be better, and I want him to reach his full potential, which I think would be great. I want to help him out. We're here, we're willing to work." - Plaxico Burress

How much do you guys think QB/WR chemistry matters, especially this early in the season? Judging from the past couple of years, I think this can only help in terms of Eli/Plax's relationship.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well for punters, it makes sense since it shows they are able to get the kick off quick. At the same time though, you could be the quickest punter ever but you could have one blocked on a fluke or something so I think its just a little cute stat they like to throw out there.

[MTH15]

Lmfao at Martz. I hate the Redskins now. They took Landry.......Landry :( and I think GB will sign Keyshawn.

[VonErichLives]

Is this already in the works? I am figuring you are just asking my opinion about it since I've heard nothing about it...Personally I don't really know, Patriots don't exactly have a long list of retired numbers so I think they should keep it exclusive to players who played the majority of their career with the Patriots (Granted, Bledsoe probably played about 80% of his career in New England, but I'd like to see it more like 95-100% of their career here)

Was a rumor/conversation.

I dunno, I agree with what you said, the flipside is him/parcells put the Pats back on the map... they went from 1/2 filled stadiums to being sold out with a waiting list i think almost double capacity...

I wouldn't mind seeing it happen, I wonder if he'd do it.

[el fregadero]

Chris Hanson is the man. Good job, Krispy.

[Skippord]

Todd Sauerbrun is better

[Kris P Lettus]

We, myself and the people I used to go to Saints games with, sit on row 1 section 111, on the 25 yard line, visitors side.. We made Sourbum shank a punt late in the Saints/Broncos game in 2004.. We also got Reggie Hayward, y'alls defensive end, in trouble because we kept yelling at him and he kept turning around and blowing us kisses and whatnot.. Shanahan came over and slapped him in the head and yelled at him.. Needless to say y'all beat us by like 20 points and Hayward had like 4 sacks on Aarron Brooks that day..

:wavesad:

[RP]

*True Story* Colts 45 Saints 17

[Kris P Lettus]

Are you talking about preseason last year??

LOL

[SammyG]

Rams beat the Colts last year in preseason too.

TRUE STORY

[Kris P Lettus]

A rope beat the Colts in the post season two years ago..

[SammyG]

OOOOH

[RP]

A rope beat the Colts in the post season two years ago..


Yah and what happen last year? I forget. How did the Colts do last year? I need reminded . Let me know as soon as possible Krispy. This will eat me alive if i dont remember how Indy's season ended last year. Hmmmmmmmmmmm...

[Kris P Lettus]

On that same note, how is a preseason loss supposed to damper the best season the Saints ever had??

[CNM]

We, myself and the people I used to go to Saints games with, sit on row 1 section 111, on the 25 yard line, visitors side.. We made Sourbum shank a punt late in the Saints/Broncos game in 2004.. We also got Reggie Hayward, y'alls defensive end, in trouble because we kept yelling at him and he kept turning around and blowing us kisses and whatnot.. Shanahan came over and slapped him in the head and yelled at him.. Needless to say y'all beat us by like 20 points and Hayward had like 4 sacks on Aarron Brooks that day..

:wavesad:

LOL was that the game where Brooks ran backwards for about 10 yards and then flipped the ball to Al Wilson for an easy touchdown? Good times.

[VonErichLives]

We, myself and the people I used to go to Saints games with, sit on row 1 section 111, on the 25 yard line, visitors side.. We made Sourbum shank a punt late in the Saints/Broncos game in 2004..

Ok, this one you gotta explain and please give me more then something like "We all yelled 'BOO' when the ball saw snapped to him"

[RP]

On that same note, how is a preseason loss supposed to damper the best season the Saints ever had??


What in the fuck are you talking about? I'm talking about the season opener.

[Kris P Lettus]

Ok, this one you gotta explain and please give me more then something like "We all yelled 'BOO' when the ball saw snapped to him"
We sit in section 111, row 1, vistitors side, right where the punters warm up..

us-yellow
Sourbum-blue

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6729/seatingchart03sx5.gif

We just kept fucking with him and right before the last punt of the game, he got so pissed at my buddy he acted like he wanted to fight him.. He soon there after shanked a punt and came off the field and threw his helmet.. He never came back down to our side..

[Kris P Lettus]

What in the fuck are you talking about? I'm talking about the season opener.

You are wrong..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I don't get why a pro athlete would get rattled by some fans heckling him, I would turn around and be like "I play a game and make money they you will ever see"

[SammyG]

FUCK, is it football season yet :(

[VonErichLives]

We sit in section 111, row 1, vistitors side, right where the punters warm up..

us-yellow
Sourbum-blue

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6729/seatingchart03sx5.gif

We just kept fucking with him and right before the last punt of the game, he got so pissed at my buddy he acted like he wanted to fight him.. He soon there after shanked a punt and came off the field and threw his helmet.. He never came back down to our side..

I think you have your colors backwards.

It could have been you guys, but I wouldn't give the credit to any fan getting into a pro-athletes head to cause them to do something on the field.

We're you clean heckling or talking about his family and stuff? I've always been fine with people giving players a hard time but too many people cross the line.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Gonna assume they mentioned steroids since he is a 'roid head

My buddy said he thinks Randy Moss is going to wear #11, so I guess we will see if this Drew Bledsoe thing is gonna happen or not.

[McLegend]

lol Ricky Williams tested positive for weed...again

[weather vane]

LOL! Oh Ricky .....

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I am gonna be getting tickets for the UK game :love:

[Skippord]

lol thats our Ricky

[RP]

LEONARD LITTLE KILLED A MAN WTF! Yet Ricky cant get in despite a little pot.

[SammyG]

STOP SNITCHING ON LEONARD. Come on now, STFU already about Little.

[RP]

LEONARD LITTLE DRUNK LOTS OF ALCOHOL AND RAN SOMEONE OVER AND KILLED THEM FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hanso Amore]

Yes, and he served his time. While it is 1000 times worse, there is really only a few game suspension for DUI, he served. The courts elt him off so the League lets him play. he Served his NFL punishment. Ricky keeps popping and by their rules he cant come in.

It seems flawed but whatever, its their system. Do you think killing someone should equal a league ban? Or what? If he doesn't go to jail it shouldn't be on the NFL to punish him.

[VonErichLives]

last time I checked it was against the law to not hire somone based on previous crimes (of course their are some exceptions) but if you read most job applications it asks about past crimes and explains they can't be held against you, or something like that.

Have you ever been convicted of a crime which is substantially related to the functions or qualifications of the job for which you are applying?  No  Yes (a Conviction record will not necessarily disqualify you from employment).
If yes, explain number of conviction(s), nature of offense(s) leading to conviction(s), how recently such offense(s) was/were committed, sentence(s) imposed and type(s) of rehabilitation.

just pulled that from a job app.

[Kris P Lettus]

http://neworleanssaints.com/photos/gallery/2007%20Rookie%20Mini%20Camp/01-85-72dpi-5498.jpg

WR Robert Meachem

http://neworleanssaints.com/photos/gallery/2007%20Rookie%20Mini%20Camp/04-24-72dpi-4506.jpg

RB Atonio Pittman

[Kris P Lettus]

I want some of those shorts BTW..

[MTH15]

Hes probably gonna catch you guys on the streets. Mini Camp is so fucking boring to me...gosh

Randy Moss is a bust

[ClockShot]

Probably the big news of today.

Brett Farve wants out of Green Bay.

[Kris P Lettus]

Where did you read this??

[ClockShot]

On the main page of yahoo.com right now. Also read the ticker on ESPNNews.

Foxsports.com was the one who broke the news.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Pittman is gonna be a pretty good pro but I don't see how he is gonna get any carries in that offense? How long is Deuce under contract for? Maybe grooming Pittman to be his replacement

[MTH15]

Send him to ATL!!!! Where he started....nah. I cant think of 1 team that would want a QB 1 year out of retirement....Browns. He could teach Brady Quinn a thing or two. Any team with an expected starting rookie QB....Detroit?

[CSL]

<font color=white>Well surely he'd only wanna go somewhere that stand a shot at winning a championship which would eliminate Detroit and Cleveland. And I believe the only team really that is in a place to contend and have anything resembling a need for a QB is Chicago.

Or not.</font>

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Maybe Favre needs to realize that Randy Moss wanted to have a shot at winning a championship too?

[Kris P Lettus]

Pittman is gonna be a pretty good pro but I don't see how he is gonna get any carries in that offense? How long is Deuce under contract for? Maybe grooming Pittman to be his replacement

Five years left on his current contract.. I just think Peyton is an offensive fiend.. He wants as many weapons as he can get..

[SammyG]

I completely agree with Favre's spazz out. He is right.

[diothoir]

I am gonna be getting tickets for the UK game :love:

Me too. :heart: Do you know which price tickets you are going to get?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Nope cause that's the one thing the letter/email didn't say :o I'm buying for 5 other people, probably won't go much higher than £60 but it depends on pricing and availability. Don't want to get too close as won't be able to see over Shockey's huge head.

[diothoir]

Yeah, the front seats could suck, very tempted to go for the cheapest tickets but dunno yet.

[diothoir]

http://www.nfluk.com/usersession_new.php?board=22;action=display;threadid=25983

"We will not know the definite prices until Weds, but I believe the price brackets were £35-45, £45-55, £55-65 and £65+"

£45 at most then. :$

[MTH15]

Whos playing in the UK game?

[OssMan]

giants and dolphins, i think its a retarded idea and if Dolphins season ticket holders wanted to riot against the NFL i would be behind them 100%

[CSL]

<font color=white>Giants/Dolphins.

Gutted. I heard there were like 500,000 people interested from allover so I didn't bother looking any further into it. Are there tickets widely available?</font>

[OssMan]

I think that every Dolphins ticket holder should have first priority on those tickets, which if they all accepted wouldn't leave a lot of room for others. But isn't that the point of a home game

[CSL]

<font color=white>It's allll about the cashflow.</font>

[MTH15]

Allen Faneca wants out of Pittsburgh. ATL really needs an offensive lineman like him. Devin Hesters playing offense now. And its likely that Vick wont be suspended for dog wrestling.

[FearedSanctity]

Dog...wrestling?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I think that every Dolphins ticket holder should have first priority on those tickets, which if they all accepted wouldn't leave a lot of room for others. But isn't that the point of a home game

Americans don't fly abroad, stupid

Gutted. I heard there were like 500,000 people interested from allover so I didn't bother looking any further into it. Are there tickets widely available?

They go on pre-release tomorrow, then sometime early next week I think they go on general release. I doubt there'll be many left though, if any.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I think it is really stupid and unfair to the players and fans that they are playing a game outside of the United States

[SammyG]

I agree. Absolutely retarded idea.

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah, the front seats could suck, very tempted to go for the cheapest tickets but dunno yet.

First row tickets are the shit..

[Kris P Lettus]

I just heard on NFL Live that the bears are going to try to make Devin Hester into an offensive player..

Where are they gonna play him, the slot??

[Kris P Lettus]

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</td></tr></tbody></table><!-- T10181970 --><!-- Sesame Modified: 05/14/2007 22:54:39 --><!-- sversion: 3 $Updated: belliott$ --> LAKE FOREST, Ill. (May 14, 2007) -- Devin Hester (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/412717) is taking his game-breaking skills to the Chicago Bears' (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/CHI) offense.

Hester set an NFL record last year for kick returns for touchdowns, and he started off the Super Bowl with a 92-yard kickoff runback for a touchdown. He rarely played on anything but special teams, though, and when he did, it was as a cornerback. Now, the Bears will try him as a wide receiver.

Coach Lovie Smith said the All-Pro return specialist will make the switch beginning with the upcoming minicamp.

"I think Devin Hester is one of the most exciting players in the NFL with his hands on the football," Smith told ChicagoBears.com. "I think he would be an excellent defensive back, also. We just feel that this is in the best interest of us and him for him to achieve his full potential as a football player." Smith also expects to use Hester in the backfield at times.

"Right now we're not going to put any limits on it," Smith said. "We have a new piece to the puzzle. We're anxious to see what we can do with him and the role that he'll develop into.
"There are a lot of different ways we can go. You can make a case for him being a slot receiver. You can make a case for him being a single receiver when we go to our two-tight end, two-running back packages. You can make a case for him from the running back position.
"He's an offensive weapon right now. That's the only limit we put on him."

In college for the Miami Hurricanes, Hester played receiver, running back, cornerback and returned kicks. The Bears chose him in the second round of the 2006 draft with the idea he could play either offense or defense, but would see much time on special teams.

He was sensational as a kick returner, with three punts run back for touchdowns and a 12.8-yard average, and two touchdowns and a 26.4-yard average on kickoff returns. Against the Rams, he had two returns for scores, and against the Giants he went 108 yards with a missed field goal.
Hester was not thinking about moving to offense.

"We had several meetings until I just really said that there's no I in team, and however I can help the team I'm willing to do it," Hester said. "It's going to be a great experience. I'm just going to go over there and try to give a little spark to the offense. There will be more opportunities to make big plays and I think it's a great idea."

So does offensive coordinator Ron Turner, who used Hester for only one play on offense last season. He couldn't handle a low pass from Rex Grossman (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396159) on that play.

"I've been recruiting him for about 13 months and I finally got him," Turner said. "He's an elite player when he gets the ball in his hands, and I'm excited about the opportunity to help him get the ball in his hands -- not just returning punts and kickoffs, which is a few times a game. Hopefully we can get it in his hands five, six seven times different ways."

AP NEWS
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[MTH15]

Hah I said it before you.....but I didn't put down that much info :( And I wonder whats gonna happen with Reggie Bush, Is he gonna remain a combination back or will he become a full-time back pretty soon? Cause hes super talented.

[Crimson]

ya think

[diothoir]

First row tickets are the shit..

Wembley isn't built for NFL games though so the front row seats are level with the field. They haven't made it clear if these seats are going to be tarped off or not.

If they are not, front row seats will have a great view of Shockey's arse and not much else.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I think the first few rows are going to be covered, yeah.

Got tix, pretty high up due to people I'm going with not wanting to spend a whole lot, but should have a decent view still. Woooooo :love:

[Kris P Lettus]

Hah I said it before you.....but I didn't put down that much info :( And I wonder whats gonna happen with Reggie Bush, Is he gonna remain a combination back or will he become a full-time back pretty soon? Cause hes super talented.

Yeah, I usually don't read your posts..

Reggie Bush is our all around offensive player.. He'll prolly never be an every down RB.. When Deuce leaves (saddest day of my life), Bush will split carries with Pittman I woulod think..

[Kris P Lettus]

I didn't realize that about Wembley.. I've sat on the first row every Saints game I've ever been too and the seats are great..

Have fun atthe game though, m8s..

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Should still be 90000 or so at the game. 40000 sold within 90 minutes yesterday.

[SammyG]

Kris P, can you make a post without having .. after every sentence? It's mad annoying.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

90,000 people watching a game is great and all but I still think it is really unfair to the Miami Dolphin season ticket holders.

[VonErichLives]

90,000 people watching a game is great and all but I still think it is really unfair to the Miami Dolphin season ticket holders.

agreed, especially when most season ticket holders get screwed and pay full price for useless pre-season games.. taking away a regular season game sucks.

the NFL has some great ideas, this ain't one of them.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well to the NFL, how many of those season tickets holders are gonna stop paying full price now though? Probably not a whole hell of a lot, and even if they do somebody else will come in buy them. However, you can only piss the fans off so much before you are the NHL and you are on the Outdoor Life Network

[SammyG]

Rams will win the NFC West this year.

[diothoir]

I think the first few rows are going to be covered, yeah.

Got tix, pretty high up due to people I'm going with not wanting to spend a whole lot, but should have a decent view still. Woooooo :love:

Forgot to say, got mine in the northeast corner, bottom section. Great stuff. Are you going in your own teams jersey (don't know who you follow :$) or not?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Bottom :eek: How much? :$

[Kris P Lettus]

Kris P, can you make a post without having .. after every sentence? It's mad annoying.

No..

[Kris P Lettus]

I heard last night on NFL Radio that one of the Bengals LBs got arrested for punching a girl in the face..

What's that, like 11 players in a year to get arrested??

[RP]

I think its 9 players - 11 arrests

[Supreme Olajuwon]

He was already one of the nine that got arrested. And that makes 13 arrests if my math is correct. It's ok he'll get cut since he's a meaningless wasted draft pick that the Bengals don't need because ODELL THURMAN'S BACK!!!!!!! WOOOOO!! I didn't waste a bunch of money on his jersey after all.

[RP]

I predict Odell Thurman will fall off the wagon by midseason.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

You know you could at least try to be pleasant more often.

[RP]

I predict the Colts will win the superbowl.

[Kris P Lettus]

Colts aren't gonna do shit.. Your already suspect defense has lost every player that meant something minus Bob Sanders and Dwight Freeny and y'all are trying to franchise Freeny.. Offence will still be good, but every game is gonna be a shootout because of the HUGE holes in your D.. Again, Colts aren't gonna be about shit this year..

[RP]

lol you dont know Marlon Jackson and Kelvin Heyden. Thats ok. Congrats on front loading an average cornerbacks contract with tons of guaranteed money. Also didnt you or someone else sing this same song when we lost Edge last year? lol

Also, didnt we have huge holes in our defense last year? 175-180 yards a game on the ground we were giving?

Also we'all aint trying to franchise Freeney. We have franchise Freeney and he's gunna get a long term deal before the end of training camp.

Also, lol@ a Saints fan talking about the holes in another teams defense.

You're dumb

[Kris P Lettus]

Yes y'all had holes in your D last year and still won the SB but yall have gotten rid of alot of players..

Mike Doss, Cato June, Nick Harper, etc etc ..

Also Rhodes, Stokley, Proel, etc etc on Off..

BTW

Dwight Freeney - #93 - Defensive End - 6'1" - 268lbs
News: Colts franchise player Dwight Freeney did not take part in drills Friday.
Impact: Freeney showed up for minicamp but was a healthy scratch. He hopes to be offered a fair long-term contract. While he isn't making a big stink, Freeney only has until July 15 to get something done and is showing his frustration. (Sat. May 19, 2007)

Oh and the Saints "holes" where at CB.. Thanks for the help with that..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Are you really considering Stokley and Proel as loses? Stokley was hurt almost the entire season and I didn't even know Ricky Proel was still in the NFL. Plus, they picked up a wideout in the first round who fits the Stokley mold anyway

Their D did lose some people but I dunno, it was pretty shitty last year minus the playoffs so I think they are pretty much in the same position as last year (Losing Rhodes will hurt, but Abdi is a lot more ready to carry the full load coming into his 2nd season now)

I think they will be contending for a berth to the Superbowl when all is said and done

[RP]

all i'm saying is...Colts vs Pats AFC title game again.

Thats all i'm saying right now

Mike Doss was a loss? AS far as depth maybe, but he was injury plagued and was outplayed for his starting role by Bathea ( who's a beast ). Cato June...a loss? Considering we've lost 4 of our best linebackers in 5 years and still won a superbowl despite those losses, i'm not sure what the big deal is there. He couldnt tackle anyways.

Nick Harper was a huge loss cause he's a great CB, but he's also in his 30's and probably not gunna peak any higher then he already has and most likely has 1 or 2 decent years left in him. Not enough to warrant a brand new rich contract.

Stokely was injured all year last year and the year before and Proel didnt even see much playing time last year as it is. Hell i forgot he was on the team.

Losing Rhodes sucks, but Addai will be a probowler this year because of it so its cool.


and your qoute...OMGZOR A PLAYER IN CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS IS FRUSTRATED ARGHHHH!! Imagine that.

[KingofOldSchool]

The 49ers will win the NFC West this year.

[Nervous Ferret]

The Arizona Cardinals will win the NFC West this year.

[SammyG]

RAMM SHOOOWWW


jk

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

If I had to predict right now for the NFC West I'd say Seahawks

[RP]

I'd say 49ers and also i think Alex Smith is gunna have a huge year this year. Pro bowl year.

[Gonzo]

If the continue the play of last year it will be between the Seahawks and the 49ers. Wasn't Shaun Alexander injured for a portion of last year?

[CSL]

<font color=white>Madden curse.</font>

[SammyG]

ROFL @ Vick. Catch sportscenter tonight. They show a lil clip of him getting interviewed. He is sooo ghetto. Hope he gets suspended.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

If the continue the play of last year it will be between the Seahawks and the 49ers. Wasn't Shaun Alexander injured for a portion of last year?

Hasselbeck went down for a while too

[diothoir]

Bottom :eek: How much? :$
£65. Pretty good view too. It's the back of Section 108.

[VonErichLives]

Did anyone else hear Portis defending Vick. I couldn't tell if he was just a complete idiot, or what he meant to say was where he grew up dog fighting was common.

I tend to lean twords him just being an idiot.

I think Samuels said something also, but I missed it.

[MTH15]

Plz dont suspend Vick. It was his cousin Ray Rays fault :( but seriously if hes suspended.....we are so fucked. And I think its gonna be a dog fight in the NFC West.

[Kris P Lettus]

And I think its gonna be a dog fight in the NFC West.

They're playing all division games at Michael Vick's house??

A couple of things I read/saw today:

-Pats resiged Seau for another season at age 38.. Dunno if that's a good move or not, but I guess they're looking for depth and veteran leadership..

-Bengals cut Simmons, that LB that is accused of hitting his girlfriend.. She is saying that she hit herself with her cellphone and the police misunderstood the situation.. My question, if she accidentally hit herself, why where the police even there??

-Suprised NerF or Trips haven't come in here to talk about that young cb/kr that got arrested for assault this past weekend.. He was at a bar, got into a fight, swung on a dude and the dude ducked and he hit a girl in the face.. Can think of his name but he went to the pro bowl as a kick returner..

[Gonzo]

They're playing all division games at Michael Vick's house??

A couple of things I read/saw today:

-Pats resiged Seau for another season at age 38.. Dunno if that's a good move or not, but I guess they're looking for depth and veteran leadership..

-Bengals cut Simmons, that LB that is accused of hitting his girlfriend.. She is saying that she hit herself with her cellphone and the police misunderstood the situation.. My question, if she accidentally hit herself, why where the police even there??

-Suprised NerF or Trips haven't come in here to talk about that young cb/kr that got arrested for assault this past weekend.. He was at a bar, got into a fight, swung on a dude and the dude ducked and he hit a girl in the face.. Can think of his name but he went to the pro bowl as a kick returner..

AJ Nicholson was the Bengal that got waived, his name isn't Simmons.

And Justin Miller is the name of the KR for the Jets.

Is it just me or does it seem like more and more NFL players are getting into trouble as of late?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Seau is a good pick up I think, he is probably coming in again for the least amount of money possible so its a no lose situation really. He played pretty well last season before that freak play broke his forearm in half. This will allow Vrabel to play at the outside spot a lot more which is good. I would have rather seen them pick up a young MLB with their other first round pick so they could mold that player though (instead they traded it) but whatever, just glad to see they grabbed some depth either way.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Is it just me or does it seem like more and more NFL players are getting into trouble as of late?

http://www.profootballtalk.com/turdwatch.htm

[Gonzo]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/turdwatch.htm

Good link, pretty interesting.

I don't know how Seau can keep up at his age. He plays LB, its not like he is kicking or punting.

[Kris P Lettus]

AJ Nicholson was the Bengal that got waived, his name isn't Simmons.

Yeah, Simmons is the LB the Saints got from the Bengals..

I posted that off the top of my head, not while looking at NFL.com..

:$

Yeah, Seau is good just because he is a future Hall of Famer and can help mold younger talent on the field.. That play last year where he broke his arm was disgusting..

[CSL]

<font color=white>So Keyshawn actually retired. Huh.</font>

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Heard Chris Henry passed the pee tests so it looks like his ban is gonna stay at 8 games.

[SammyG]

ROFL Kris P. Genius dogfight comment.

[RP]

Heard Chris Henry passed the pee tests so it looks like his ban is gonna stay at 8 games.

In related news, thats the first test Chris Henry has ever passed in his life.

[Kris P Lettus]

RACIST

[Kris P Lettus]

lol

Steelers Line Coach Makes Racey Email Blunder

(KDKA) PITTSBURGH Veteran Steelers Line Coach Larry Zierlein made a computer age goof.

He inadvertently sent out an email containing pornographic material to some unintended recipients, including names listed on the NFL’s general managers email distribution list, their secretaries and Commissioner Roger Goodell.

The story broke on the Web site ProFootballTalk.com, which reports Zierlein forwarded the email after her received it from Doug Whaley, the Steelers’ personnel coordinator who got it from an outside source, according to our news partners at the Post-Gazette.

Zierlein was unsuccessful in trying to recall the message.

“When you write an email, you have to write it as if everybody’s going to see it, as if it’s like front page on the newspaper,” Jay Armstrong, owner of Computer House Call, said.

His firm specializes in computer training and repair.

The PG reports the Steelers confirmed one of their employees was involved in sending the inappropriate email against both club and league policy.

The PG also quotes a Steelers source as saying the Steelers are not expected to take disciplinary action against the coach.

[VonErichLives]

heard that one yesterday... that's funny... so much for technology being a good thing in the nfl!

[RP]

Roger Goodall : ok now you guys are just plain fucking with me arent you?

[SammyG]

I wonder what kind of porn it was.

[VonErichLives]

I wonder what kind of porn it was.

I wonder if it was sent to Tags old e-mail addy and Tags was part of his e-mail list for that stuff (yes, I'm kidding, but would be real funny!)

[Zen v.W.o.]

Plz dont suspend Vick. It was his cousin Ray Rays fault :( but seriously if hes suspended.....we are so fucked. And I think its gonna be a dog fight in the NFC West.


Vick deserves worse then that. He deserves to be mauled to death by some rabid PitBulls.

I'd like to watch him scrambling for his life, rather then a first down.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah Vick is def gonna get suspended, too bad they didn't keep Schaub

[SammyG]

Reports say Vick attended some of those dog fights. Joey Harrington will be ATL's starting QB this year.

[Nervous Ferret]

Vick was a http://productsus.listal.com/images/nodrop/max/B0001KZNMY/dvds/26426.jpg

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Reports say Vick attended some of those dog fights. Joey Harrington will be ATL's starting QB this year.
This one claims he was a "heavyweight" at them lol

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10199826

[Nervous Ferret]

thatr picture I tried to post was a picture of the Heavyweights movie :(

[SammyG]

Please Suspend Vick for the year.

[ClockShot]

Some bad news for Patriots fans.

NEW ORLEANS -- The body of New England Patriots player Marquise Hill was found Monday, a state official said, a day after he was reported missing following a personal watercraft accident on Lake Pontchartrain.

More info here. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2884762

[Gonzo]

Wow, that is pretty tragic. :eek:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well its sad news for everyone really, he was a back up with a long shot to even make the team again but its still terrible obviously. I guess he put a lot of time/money into rebuilding homes after Hurricane Katrina down there, it's too bad such a tragic accident had to happen to a such a nice guy.

[Hanso Amore]

Im surprised that hasnt been a bigger story. Very Sad.


Also, I hope Vick goes down hard. I just saw an ESPN segment about dog fighting. it makes me sick.

A great guy who helped his fellow man dies in an accident, and a scumbag who kills and mutilates dogs for money and fun is making millions more and will suffer no punishment. It is just not fair.

[SammyG]

Rams talking to Sam Adams.

[RP]

Businessman (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0122987/): I'll have a Samuel Jackson.
Samuel Jackson (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0152638/): [shouts] Good motherfucking choice, motherfucker! Samuel Jackson! Made painstakingly by me, Samuel L. Jackson! It'll get ya drunk! You'll be fucking fat girls in no time! You might even fight a nigga or two! Mmmm-mmm, bitch!
[Jackson walks up to the businessman]
Samuel Jackson (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0152638/): [shouts] How's it taste, motherfucker?
Businessman (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0122987/): Could you please stop yelling at me?
Samuel Jackson (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0152638/): [shouts] No, I can't stop yelling, 'cause that's how I talk! Haven't you seen my movies? "Juice" That was a good one! "Deep Blue Sea" They ate me! A motherfucking shark ate me! Drink up, bitch!

[Kris P Lettus]

Joey Harrington will be ATL's starting QB this year.

Until Oct 21 when Charles Grant breaks his ribs..

[Shisen Kopf]

Im surprised that hasnt been a bigger story. Very Sad.


Also, I hope Vick goes down hard. I just saw an ESPN segment about dog fighting. it makes me sick.

A great guy who helped his fellow man dies in an accident, and a scumbag who kills and mutilates dogs for money and fun is making millions more and will suffer no punishment. It is just not fair.

Michael Vick should get the Ricky Williams treatment, all he did was smoke some pot. Vick should be thrown out of the league for a year. Vick is trash. I hope he gets hurt and the Falcons have to rely on Joey.

[Kris P Lettus]

I hope he gets hurt and the Falcons have to rely on Joey.

We agree on something..

FIRST TIME FOR EVERYTHING

[Mr. Monday Morning]

How bout dem Lions

[Shisen Kopf]

Yeah, I never liked Vick, him and his brother are low class pieces of shit. And yeah the Lions, probably go 4-12, 5-11 something like that. They suck and as long as Millen is GM they will continue to suck. At least the offense should be decent next year.

[SammyG]

Oct. 21, I will be in Seattle for the Rams/Hawks game. SO PUMPED

[Hanso Amore]

Bills VS Redskins! I get my Orders out of Iraq and tickets to game (im stationed in Virginia so I never get to be home for games) in the same week! YAY!

[RP]

Drink up Bitch!

[MTH15]

If Vick is suspended we should put Shockley in. I wanna see him in action...Saints Steelers HOF game. And I hope when Charles Grant attempts to own Joey Harrington (If vicks suspended), he slips a disk in his back...and he cries.

[OssMan]

Bills VS Redskins! I get my Orders out of Iraq and tickets to game (im stationed in Virginia so I never get to be home for games) in the same week! YAY!how do you post from Iraq and where in VA

[MTH15]

I think he meant he ...um....yea that make no sense. Im making a prediction. Jay Cutler throws for 3,267 yards and 28 TDs

[RP]

Oh yah Mexico did that shit.

[Skippord]

I think he meant he ...um....yea that make no sense. Im making a prediction. Jay Cutler throws for 3,267 yards and 28 TDs
Quite

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I just read the SI story about Vick's dog pen. The picture of it was ridiculous, a huge white house with white everything then a bunch of completely black buildings behind a completely black fence out in the back. What a fucking joke...dog fighting? How is that cool?

[weather vane]

I love how Joey always finds a way to play. lol

[SammyG]

OMG 4 months away from going to Seattle.

[MTH15]

Nothing else interesting in the offseason happening...Well not to me. As long as Vick isn't banned from the NFL I'm good. I would never fight dogs. Cruelty to animals ese cruelty to animals!!!!

[VonErichLives]

I would never fight dogs.

you vs. a pack of toy poodles... my moneys on the poodles.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10205109

Pretty good read about who's overrated/underrated on each team. I hate to say it but I kinda agree with calling Bruschi overrated. Don't get me wrong, he is the man and played a huge role in all the Superbowl victories/playoff victories but he has slowed down a lot...What do you expect though the guy had a stroke. I'd guess this upcoming season will probably be his last, which is too bad since he is one of the greatest Patriots ever but you can't play forever.

[Nervous Ferret]

I was unaware that Chad Pennington was even taken seriously by the rest of the league

[Kris P Lettus]

Predator is not overrated..

:foc:

:(

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

http://images.sportsline.com/b/ap/photos/Bengals_Football4127846_lower.jpg
Orange chinstrap and gold mouth lol...Chad Johnson is the man

[MTH15]

Hes going to race a horse for charity. MIKE VICK isn't overrated. Hes underrated. You expect him to be accurate if he passes the ball 20 times. Hes pressured 12 times and sacked 4 and you expect him to pass accurate. Look on You Tube and see some of his good passes. And he can shake you so bad the wind cuts your balls off. And if anybody is underrated its Jerious Norwood. He had two 75 yard + TDs and in the preseason he had like an 80 yard Screen Pass for a TD. Warrick Dunn had one 94 yard TD and thats it. Jerious Norwood should be the starting RB for the Atlanta Falcons.

[Gonzo]

Mike Vick is overrated, he is not a QB. Mike Vick is an athlete that just happens to get by playing QB. He is never going to go deep into the playoffs or win a Superbowl. Mike Vick can't pass the ball if he was forced to, and if it came down to it he wouldn't be able to. He has shown flashes but isn't consistent.

[Crimson]

They shoulda kept Schaub and made Vick the next flash

[SammyG]

St.Louis Rams

[Mr. Monday Morning]

He is never going to go deep into the playoffs or win a Superbowl.

NFC title game? :o

Not that I'm arguing your main point, btw.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I don't get why everyone shits on Michael Vick for his playing abilities. Atlanta isn't going to win a Superbowl because they aren't a Superbowl team, not because Michael Vick can't lead them there. I dunno, the Falcons won a playoff game in Green Bay before the Packers sucked and winning a playoff game in the "frozen thundra" actaully ment something. I personally see a lot of other starting QBs in the NFL who Michael Vick is better then yet he constantly gets crapped on because he isn't your traditional drop back passer. I think if you surround him with the right team he'd do work, I really don't see how you can fault the guy when he is throwing to Roddy White, Michael Jenkins and Ashley Lelie.

I've never been a Michael Vick fanboy, and now I'm def not after this whole dog thing but when it comes to on the field play I've always thought he was a pretty decent QB.

[Kris P Lettus]

I'm with you Stima..

He's made the Saints look bad on many occations.. He's prolly one of the top five "all around athletes" in the NFL today..

[VonErichLives]

if anybody is underrated its Jerious Norwood. He had two 75 yard + TDs and in the preseason he had like an 80 yard Screen Pass for a TD.

I think Norwood will be a good RB in the NFL, but don't ever use pre-season as a judge... it's a scrimmage and thats about it..

As for Vick, he's a great athlete and that allows him to make plays other can't, he has a cannon arm... however he's shown that he has trouble reading defenses...

I've never understood why they don't just go 5-wide all the time, almost run and shoot style... Dan Marino actually talked about this (I forget if it was inside the nfl or a pre-game show).

Go 5-wide and spread the defense and with his ability and arm he should be able to make the easy reads and pick them apart.

[MTH15]

Yea but those two 75+ yard TD's were good. MIKE VICK was like the 4th most mobile QB of all time on NFL Network.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I'd say Vick is more of a rusher then "being mobile," Steve Young to me is a "mobile" QB but its not like he picked up a lot of his yards rushing.

[VonErichLives]

Yea but those two 75+ yard TD's were good. MIKE VICK was like the 4th most mobile QB of all time on NFL Network.

1) There's a reason pre-season doesn't count.

2) What did the use as a basis to decide "most mobile"

I'd say Vick is more of a rusher then "being mobile," Steve Young to me is a "mobile" QB but its not like he picked up a lot of his yards rushing.

i dunno, when it comes to rushing with the ball while not as good I'd put Young in the same category as Vick... as a pure running QB, I think the only QB I've been alive to see that is in the same level is Cunningham (you could argue flutie, but he ran because he had to, Vick does it and Cunningham did it because they could).

When I hear "Mobile" I think of a guy who avoids the sack, but doesn't take off...

Vick, Cunnigham, Young, Elway are all guys who could take off and burn a lot of defenses.

probably could have McNabb in their... but we'll see how he comes back from injury.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

1) There's a reason pre-season doesn't count.

Read his post again, it's not written very clearly but the two 75 yard runs were in the regular season

[Kris P Lettus]

-Sam Adams got signed by the Broncos..

-Tank Johnson is suspended for the first eight games of the season..

-Robert Meachem's knee is fucking with him.. Payton says they're not worried because they already knew about the injury before drafting him.. Sucks that he is missing training camp, but I'd rather him miss now and not miss during the season..

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yahoo Fantasy Football is already open for signups :o

Dunno whether to make a thread this early

[mrslackalack]

Trent Green finally got traded to the Dolphins for a conditional 5th rd pick

[mrslackalack]

I guess Culpeppers gonna get traded now. I am gonna take a guess and predict the Raiders or Bears is where he will end up going.

[mrslackalack]

This is like the earliest ever that Yahoo has opened up Fantasy Football, but it is prolly the most popular and fun of all the fantasy sport leagues.

[Kris P Lettus]

Saints added alittle depth at DT:

SAINTS SIGN DT KENDRICK CLANCY
by Dave Lawrence, NewOrleansSaints.com
Jun 7, 2007 – 3:00 pm

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The New Orleans Saints signed free agent defensive tackle Kendrick Clancy (http://www.neworleanssaints.com/playerbio.cfm?playerid=476) to a three-year contract Thursday. The signing of the veteran lineman was announced by Executive Vice President/General Manager Mickey Loomis (http://www.neworleanssaints.com/frontofficebio.cfm?frontofficeid=49).

Clancy, who stands 6-foot-1 and weighs 305 pounds, is entering his eighth NFL season and has played in 80 career games, starting 30. He started 26 games over past two seasons with the New York Giants and Arizona Cardinals, respectively. The former Ole Miss standout started all 11 games he played for Arizona in 2006, registering 37 tackles, one sack and a forced fumble.

"We're happy to have Kendrick as a member of the Saints," Loomis said.
"We feel that he will improve our depth at the defensive tackle position. A player of his experience is a welcome addition to our club and we're eager to see him competing on the field."


Clancy has tallied 106 tackles (82 solo) in his career along with three sacks, three forced fumbles, two fumble recoveries and an interception. Clancy entered the league as a third-round pick (72nd overall) of the Pittsburgh Steelers in the 2000 NFL Draft and spent the first five seasons of his pro career there. The Tuscaloosa, Ala. native has played in five career postseason games as well, notching three tackles.


In other roster news, the club announced they have released rookie long snapper Pat MacDonald, who signed with the Saints as a free agent in April.

[mrslackalack]

If I had to predict the Superbowl right now it would be Pats/Saints.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Culpepper walked off the field today in the middle of practice

[Kris P Lettus]

*limped

Culpepper limped off the field today in the middle of practice

[mrslackalack]

Yeah prolly the last time you will see him in a Dolphins uniform.

[Kris P Lettus]

Where did you hear this, Stima??

If it's online, post a link..

[mrslackalack]

I even heard rumors Culpepper might retire.

[VonErichLives]

Last I heard Pep wants to be released, he wants to decide where he plays next and not be traded.

Where's he end up? Backup or Starter? Wouldn't be a bad idea for a team like Detroit to spend a few bucks on him and see what he has left.

This is where football differs from Baseball.

Top paid player, gets injured, rushed back and is worse and if they want they can just cut him.

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah, he wants to be traded and was escorted off the practice field..

I think he could help alot of teams.. Cleveland?? Oakland??

Any team where he could be a back up and help mentor a younger QB.. I guess it all depends on where his health is come August..

[mrslackalack]

Pasquarelli said in his opinion Culpepper will go to Baltimore.

[MTH15]

He wants to get released. He got escorted (NFL Network) and it seems like someone has to always correct my post :( And Steve young was like 2nd or 3rd on that list of Mobile QB's I think. #1 was that Vikings QB that always scrambled around. Bobby something.

[mrslackalack]

The Pats should trade Samuel to the Bears for Briggs since they both are holding out lol

[VonErichLives]

Yeah, he wants to be traded and was escorted off the practice field..

I think he could help alot of teams.. Cleveland?? Oakland??

Any team where he could be a back up and help mentor a younger QB.. I guess it all depends on where his health is come August..

He wants his release. He wants to choose where he goes, he doesn't want a trade.

With the Dolphins escorting him off the field, it makes it more likely they have a trade working and didn't want to risk injury (Wasn't McNair locked out of camp for the same reasons?)

will be interesting to see where he goes and for what.

I don't see Clev or Oakland due to their drafting...

Detroit and Baltimore are the first two that pop into mind.

[RP]

He probably wants to come to Indianapolis.

[mrslackalack]

he probably wants to go on a boat lol

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Culpepper got pissed because they wouldn't allow him to take part in certain drills, so he left the field to go to the weight room to work out. I don't really think he is looking to go somewhere to be a back up, I would assume his knee is healthy by now...it's been a while.

It is somewhat similar to the McNair thing except the Titans took it to the extreme and wouldn't even allow McNair to set foot anywhere in the football, nevermind just baring him from practicing.


http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10218624

[VonErichLives]

Meanwhile, Green was on the field with his new team for the first time. He wanted out of Kansas City because he felt the Chiefs wouldn't give him a fair chance to beat Brodie Croyle and Damon Huard for the starting QB job there this year, and worked out a contract with Miami several weeks ago

Huh? WTF is going on in KC, Croyle hasn't been proven and his assumed potential isn't great and Green is 3x the QB that Huard is...

Someone wanna explain this one?

[mrslackalack]

Apparently KC is real high on Croyle. I am suprised by that because he was just an avg. QB in college and injury prone.

[mrslackalack]

They also werent high on Green because of his age and that hes coming off a concussion.

[D Mac]

Well I hope this wasn't a mistake.

[RP]

Culpepper said he'll block all trades out of Miami. I guess Miami has really nice boats.

[mrslackalack]

Yeah Culpepper said he wanted to call the shots on where he goes. So hes hoping he gets released instead of traded.

[MTH15]

Wonder when they are gonna say the words "Mike Vick is suspended for the year" :( Brandon Middleton looks good in NFL Europe. I hope we take a chance in getting him. Do NFL Europe players get paid?

[mrslackalack]

I believe they do but its not a big amount.

[SammyG]

I can not wait till kickoff. NFC West is OURS this year. Jackson, Bulger, Holt, Bruce, Bennett, Pace, Wilkins, Little. I can't fucking wait. DANTE HAALLLLLLL XFACTORRR

[SammyG]

It's just a matter of time before Vick gets suspended. Falcons are gonna be so terrible this year.

[Skippord]

lol The 49ers or Seahawks are winning the NFC west this year

GUARANTEED

[SammyG]

didn't Roxer guarentee the Cards winning the NFC West? and fuck you Skippy :( Steven Jackson is gonna KILL PEOPLE

[Skippord]

Frank Gore will rape defenses

And Steven Jackson

[SammyG]

Dude. Steven Jackson could eat Frank Gore for breakfast.

[Skippord]

Maybe a midget named Frank Gore