MLB 2009 Season Thread

[Supreme Olajuwon]

One of the best indicators that large groups of people are braindead sheep: everyone booing when a batter gets hit by a pitch. You just got a free base runner you morons.

[Triple Naitch]

Cards absolutely choked that one.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Welp, looks like I was wrong. No Cardinals in the WS this year. Just can't see them winning three.</font>

[ClockShot]

Whoa. Looks like Torre wants to get even with us, plus interest.

Helluva comeback.

[SammyG]

ROFL MATT HOLLIDAY SHOW SKIPPYYYYYYYYY

[Skippord]

well now I feel silly

[Skippord]

Franklin fucking sucks btw

[SammyG]

Such an epic win. I freaked the fuck out. Loudest I have ever yelled for a Dodgers game probably. You guys picked up a nice W too.

[Skippord]

was afraid Street would blow the save because the Rockies can't do things easy

[SammyG]

Dodgers/Rox NLCS would be sick

[Skippord]

I agree

it's gonna be an interesting game Saturday with it snowing

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Whoa. Looks like Torre wants to get even with us, plus interest.

Helluva comeback.


Yeah, I really don't want the Dodgers to win the World Series period. It's not because of the same reason I don't want the Red Sox to win. I mean I of course would favor the Dodgers over the Red Sox. But, I really don't want the media and ESPN to go ape shit on the Yankees. The last thing I want to hear is how stupid the Yankees were for giving up Torre.

I love Torre just as much as the next Yankee fan but I guarantee you if the Dodgers win the World Series all we will be hearing for the whole off season is how stupid the Yankees were for getting rid of him. I would be willing to bet money that, that is exactly what's gonna happen if the Dodgers win.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Bet the stupid Mets front office was watching last night's game and will use it as an excuse to not go after Holliday. "Nope, don't want him playing the spacious LF at Citi when he can't field game-ending liners!!!"</font>

[YOUR Hero]

Cards absolutely choked that one.
what.

they won on that flyball... had it been caught. They got rattled by that after the fact.

Holliday is = the new Bucker??

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Soooo the Angels just took the Red Sox behind the wood shed last night... are we just not going to talk about it?

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Soooo the Angels just took the Red Sox behind the wood shed last night... are we just not going to talk about it?


I didn't want to bring it up. Since I'm not one of those cocky arrogant Yankee fans who like to rub their faces in it. But, yeah the Red Sox really have a great record against the Angels in the playoffs. I am trying to hold my head high and say the Angels will win this. But right now I can't see that happening. Remember this was the same team who was down 3 games to fucking zero and they came back and won the next 4.

[YOUR Hero]

Angels are coming into the playoffs quite a healthy team. The Red Sox on the other hand are not the same team they were a few years ago. They can and may still win this series, anything is possible. I'm rooting for the Angels myself in this series even though Ellesbury is quickly becoming one of my favourite players as well as the fact they've got Bay.
Sorry Miz.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Should be interesting to see which Beckett shows up today. Before last year he was up there with Schilling as the most dominant postseason pitchers of this decade.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Should be interesting to see which Beckett shows up today. Before last year he was up there with Schilling as the most dominant postseason pitchers of this decade.

Yeah, you never know with Beckett. But to tell you the truth I don't know which Burnett will show up tonight either. There's the good Burnett and then there's the bad Burnett. And unless Posada is the DH Yankees may have lost a pretty big bat since now apparently Burnett doesn't like Posada catching for him.

[ClockShot]

Soooo the Angels just took the Red Sox behind the wood shed last night... are we just not going to talk about it?

When your starting pitcher throws 100 pitches. 82 of them fast balls, the rest a combination of change ups, sliders, and curves, it should be easy to figure him out.

Atleast that's what was on the ticker on ESPN this morning.:o

[Jeritron]

Should be interesting to see which Beckett shows up today. Before last year he was up there with Schilling as the most dominant postseason pitchers of this decade.

He was injured last postseason

[Jeritron]

Soooo the Angels just took the Red Sox behind the wood shed last night... are we just not going to talk about it?

Angels beat them, no doubt. But can we also talk about some of that umpiring?
The home plate ump was giving Lackey way more calls than Lester. Lester was getting fucked over huge.
There were a number of third strikes called balls. There were also a number of these with 2 outs. Then there were the calls at first base.
These had a big impact on the game, since they kept innings going and raised Lesters pitch count, and the Angels scored a lot of their runs with 2 outs.
Fucking innings should have been over.

But it happens in baseball. Frustrating, but the Angels win and that's that.
Still think the Sox will win this

[Emperor Smeat]

Sounds like the ump was making up to the Angels for all the times Angels thought umps favored Red Sox in their match ups in the playoffs. As dumb as that sounds, the Angels really believe in that idea even though they have home field advantage in most of the series between the teams.

When Lackey is pitching well he is almost unstoppable but was hoping he would fall apart like he does normally in the playoffs but last night he never did it.

[Loose Cannon]

I heard it was going to be like 20 degrees in Denver for the game on Sat. they got to call that. you cannot play baseball in that kind of weather.

[Loose Cannon]

I hate playing when I have night games and it's 55 degrees outside in April. can't imagine even attempting to play in 20 degrees with wind

[ClockShot]

Gonna be an interesting game tonight. Probably 75% camera time on the game, 25% gets panned to Posada with a shotgun across his lap.

[Innovator]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MEEEEEEEEEEEELKY

[Innovator]

love that slider

[ClockShot]

Oh boy, here we go.

[McLegend]

That was kind of a lucky play.

[Innovator]

WOO SWISH

[RP]

If the Yanks get no hit by Blackburn, they should just quit the series and let the Twins move on.

[Innovator]

NO HIT NO HIT NO HIT NO HIT

[SammyG]

TWIINKIESS LEAADDD

[ClockShot]

Posada's seen enough.

[ClockShot]

CLUTCH!

[Innovator]

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck, time for another comeback

[RP]

haha go twinkies!

[Innovator]

can someone get a fucking hit

[Innovator]

Teixeira i'm looking at you

[Emperor Smeat]

I heard it was going to be like 20 degrees in Denver for the game on Sat. they got to call that. you cannot play baseball in that kind of weather.

Supposedly this year's postseason goes deeper into November than last year if the World Series reaches 7 games. MLB is the last major sport that should be even thinking of going deeper into winter since baseball was never meant to be played in conditions similar to last year's Rays-Phillies World Series.

[Innovator]

ok now you A-Rod

[Innovator]

WAGHWUHGWEAHGERGH SERG HESR G

[Innovator]

AN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABOMB

[Dragon]

Holy shit, A-Rod is a playoff monster. Amazing.

[thecc]

Things just got really interesting.

[Innovator]

FROM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAROD

[RP]

A Rod must of had a fix!

[RP]

It would be poetic if Joe Mauer ended this game with a walk off hr.

[McLegend]

Joe Mauer should have scored by now. Terrible call by the left field ump.

[Dragon]

Can't believe the first two batters to come up with the bases loaded swung at the first pitch.

After getting out of that the Yankees have to win here.

[thecc]

HOME RUN!!!!!!!!!!

[Innovator]

TEX MESSAGE TO LEFT!

[Skippord]

God fucking dammit I hate the Yankees

[Innovator]

OH YOURE ON THE MARK TEIXEIRA!

[Innovator]

BALLGAME OVER


YANKEES WIN


THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

YANKEES WIN

[McLegend]

Lucky

[Hanso Amore]

Teix is a man, He is 40!

[Loose Cannon]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MOTHER FUCKERS

[Loose Cannon]

Dear A-ROD

We LOVE YOU

-New York

[Innovator]

A-Rod

I love you, always have

heart,

Inno

[Loose Cannon]

Yanks had that game won the inning before and then Minn had it in the bag the inning after. crazy game. fricken A-ROD though....

[Innovator]

Ridiculous game, now we can go for the kill on Pavano

[Innovator]

Better yet, just kill Pavano

[Dragon]

Will be amazing if we could finish this series by beating Pavano. Too bad its not at home.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>As if they weren't already the favorites, A-Rod not sucking the playoffs pretty much makes them unstoppable IMO. Yeah I know it's only two games but that hasn't made much of a difference to him in the past.

I will be absolutely floored if they don't win it all this year. I'll feel happy for the good Yanks fans I know. Unfortunately though I know a lot of obnoxious dicks who will further rag on me for picking the "worse NY team" so I'm preparing for it.</font>

[Skippord]

yay our 300 million dollar payroll just one a game in the divisional series!!!!!!

[Skippord]

I've decided that I'll be happy with this postseason if the Dodgers/Red Sox don't win the World Series

[Skippord]

however I would lose my fucking mind if the Rockies were to win it

[Loose Cannon]

definately a terrible call by the ump on the Mauer hit. I bet he feels like shit. but it happens and it happens to all our teams. would of been interesting if that was like Jeter who hit that and the ump missed it. the fans might off started throwing things.

[Emperor Smeat]

Not surprised Nathan blew the save since he tends to stink against the Yankees in the playoffs but I'm upset that out of all the people who could have won a game or tied it in the 9th, it had to be A-Rod.

:foc: A-Rod. #1 player I hate in all of MLB regardless of the team (hated how he left Seattle, hated him in Texas & in NY).


Meanwhile Angels pitching has been much stronger than in recent years vs the Red Sox in the playoffs. Did not expect the Red Sox to be flat again. ESPN is saying that's 3rd playoff game in a row they failed to get more than 4 hits.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Not surprised Nathan blew the save since he tends to stink against the Yankees in the playoffs but I'm upset that out of all the people who could have won a game or tied it in the 9th, it had to be A-Rod.

:foc: A-Rod. #1 player I hate in all of MLB regardless of the team (hated how he left Seattle, hated him in Texas & in NY).


Meanwhile Angels pitching has been much stronger than in recent years vs the Red Sox in the playoffs. Did not expect the Red Sox to be flat again. ESPN is saying that's 3rd playoff game in a row they failed to get more than 4 hits.

Just remember this though the third game you guys are playing at Fenway. You guys still have a chance to win against the Angels. Perhaps you'll play them better at home.

[Droford]

I did not see the bad call by the ump in the Yankees game, but it doesn't surprise me that Umps in the OF in a Playoff game in NY can't get a call right.

See: Meier, Jeffrey

[Innovator]

Yeah ump messed up there, Melky running into his line of vision probably cause him to fuck up

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>For baseball's sake, I hope there aren't any more absolutely terrible calls like that. Esp if the team that ends up winning it all gets the benefit of several awful calls throughout the playoffs, it'll damper the whole title run.

A lot of people say the charm of umpires is the human error element they bring to the game but they should start investing in cyborgs.</font> :shifty:

[Triple Naitch]

Red Sox are playing with no passion right now.

And there have been a lot of bad calls already in the playoffs.

[Loose Cannon]

yea, but that's every single playoffs from every single sport. Everytime I look on one of the sports threads on here during the playoffs, there's always posts about bad calls. And that's pretty much the sentiment on everyone around the US. It's always going to be there. Unless you get instant replay for every single call, (which would be ridiculous) then that will never change

[Jeritron]

Red Sox are playing with no passion right now.

And there have been a lot of bad calls already in the playoffs.

Yup. They just haven't shown up to play. If anyones to blame it's definitely the bats.
Beckett had a bad 7th but he pitched a gem up to that point. If the lineup scored the runs they should he'd have been out and Wagner would be in. Instead they were trying to stretch the pitching with a shitty 1-1 tie.

Just not enough run production and that's all there is to it. Hopefully they can show up for game 3 and turn it around.
Neither teams really hitting the cover off the ball, but the Angels style of baserunning lends itself to getting more runs from nothing.

[Jeritron]

<font color=goldenrod>As if they weren't already the favorites, A-Rod not sucking the playoffs pretty much makes them unstoppable IMO. Yeah I know it's only two games but that hasn't made much of a difference to him in the past.

I will be absolutely floored if they don't win it all this year. I'll feel happy for the good Yanks fans I know. Unfortunately though I know a lot of obnoxious dicks who will further rag on me for picking the "worse NY team" so I'm preparing for it.</font>

Honestly for the fucking money they're spending they should win a world series. Anything less makes them a huge failure IMO

[Jeritron]

yea, but that's every single playoffs from every single sport. Everytime I look on one of the sports threads on here during the playoffs, there's always posts about bad calls. And that's pretty much the sentiment on everyone around the US. It's always going to be there. Unless you get instant replay for every single call, (which would be ridiculous) then that will never change

Yea but dude, these are some REALLY BAD calls. I agree there's always bad calls, but these are headline making bad calls.
That Mauer hit was one of the worst fucking calls I've ever seen. The ump was 10 feet in front of it.

Granted the Twins had plenty of chances, and their failure to win was pretty much deserved. But wow to the call...

Then there was the call at first base in the Angels/Red Sox game which was unbelievably bad.
That's a first base call. It should be easy as hell. The guy was out by 2 steps. That call could be made from the upper deck.


I accept that bad calls happen but sometimes there's just no excuse.

[Jeritron]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-replay101009&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Honestly for the fucking money they're spending they should win a world series. Anything less makes them a huge failure IMO

People in Red Sox hats shouldn't throw stones.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Game 3 of the Rockies/Phillies series has already been postponed

Must be an absolutely brutal forecast in terms of snow if they are already calling it.</font>

[McLegend]

Pretty glad the game got postponed.

[RP]

that's fucking lame. i wanted to see baseball played in the snow.

[McLegend]

When the Phillies are involved in a crucial game 3... I don't want to see it.

[Jeritron]

People in Red Sox hats shouldn't throw stones.

Why not? Red Sox payroll isn't near the Yankees. The Yankees spend nearly 100 million dollars more on their team.

Mets and Cubs also have higher payrolls than the Red Sox. The Red Sox payroll is basically the same as that of the Tigers, Phillies, and the Angels who they're playing right now. They're all within 7 mill of eachother.

That's what the budget is for a playoff team. You have to spend money to win. The Yankees, though, are spending nearly double that of those playoff teams I listed. Over 200 million.

And...when did I say the Red Sox shouldn't be winning? They spend the money of a playoff team, and they're a playoff team. But, they should be playing better for what they spend too.
I just don't think it's nearly a comparison to the yankees.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Why not? Red Sox payroll isn't near the Yankees. The Yankees spend nearly 100 million dollars more on their team.

Mets and Cubs also have higher payrolls than the Red Sox. The Red Sox payroll is basically the same as that of the Tigers, Phillies, and the Angels who they're playing right now. They're all within 7 mill of eachother.

That's what the budget is for a playoff team. You have to spend money to win. The Yankees, though, are spending nearly double that of those playoff teams I listed. Over 200 million.

And...when did I say the Red Sox shouldn't be winning? They spend the money of a playoff team, and they're a playoff team. But, they should be playing better for what they spend too.
I just don't think it's nearly a comparison to the yankees.

Money doesn't really buy World Series champioships. We could have Pujols, Mauer, And any other young great guy that you can think of. But, no matter how much we spend there's no guarantees . That's why almost every single year since 2001 we have been beaten by the team that is making less money.

But, I have got to say that in a way I'm proud because the Yankees have a lot of farm pitchers and guys in the minors who I think will do very good. A-Jax, and Montero to name a few.



I've got a question just so I know what makes them failures if they don't win the World Series in your mind?

The Yankees just won 103 games, had the best winning record in Baseball, and won the American league to get to the playoffs.

I think the word "Failure" isn't really the word I'd use after all that.

[Dragon]

Money doesn't really buy World Series champioships. We could have Pujols, Mauer, And any other young great guy that you can think of. But, no matter how much we spend there's no guarantees . That's why almost every single year since 2001 we have been beaten by the team that is making less money.

But, I have got to say that in a way I'm proud because the Yankees have a lot of farm pitchers and guys in the minors who I think will do very good. A-Jax, and Montero to name a few.



I've got a question just so I know what makes them failures if they don't win the World Series in your mind?

The Yankees just won 103 games, had the best winning record in Baseball, and won the American league to get to the playoffs.

I think the word "Failure" isn't really the word I'd use after all that.

If the Yankees don't win it all people will say they're failures because of the payroll and if they do win it all people will just say they should have anyway because of the payroll. Seems to be the way it works.

[Jeritron]

Money doesn't really buy World Series champioships. We could have Pujols, Mauer, And any other young great guy that you can think of. But, no matter how much we spend there's no guarantees . That's why almost every single year since 2001 we have been beaten by the team that is making less money.

But, I have got to say that in a way I'm proud because the Yankees have a lot of farm pitchers and guys in the minors who I think will do very good. A-Jax, and Montero to name a few.



I've got a question just so I know what makes them failures if they don't win the World Series in your mind?

The Yankees just won 103 games, had the best winning record in Baseball, and won the American league to get to the playoffs.

I think the word "Failure" isn't really the word I'd use after all that.


It definitely doesn't buy world championships. The Yankees have been living proof of that since 2000.
The core of Jeter, O'Neil, Brosius and Bernie Williams played far better than any of their money free agents and dream teams ever did.
Same with the Cubs and Mets.

What I'm saying is that you have to spend some money to compete, in most cases. There's always suprise teams. That's awesome. It's part of what makes baseball great.
But in competitive divisions, teams need to spend money to compete and stay consistently good. There's nothing wrong with it. It's business.
I think it's far more noble to spend 100 mill on your team to be a playoff contender, than to trade everything away and pinch pennies like the Pirates.

What I'm also saying is, sometimes fans tend to liken the Red Sox to the Yankees in terms of money ball. It's not true. They have always spent significantly less than the Yankees, and about the same as other perrenial playoff teams (Phillies, Angels)
The Yankees payroll is almost double.

It's also important to keep divisions in mind. Some divisions don't have a 500 lb gorilla of a team to compete with.
The Red Sox spend more because the Yankees are their main rival. They have to compete, even if their budget is 100 million less. So the pressure is always on them to counter big acquisitions.

But yea, my general thesis here isn't that $= championships. It's that the Red Sox spend more or less what other successful teams do. The other point I'm making is that the Yankees went out this season and threw a shit ton of money around. Now, that doesn't = a guarunteed championship, but for the cash they put up at stake, they should expect nothing less than a world series. They obviously got fed up and went out and bought the hitting and pitching they needed.
The whole team has been great, but they wouldn't be where they are without Texiera and Sabathia right now.

I'm not even really knocking the Yankees here. I'm just stating some financial facts, and think for what they invested anything less than a world series will dissapoint.
I think thats fair

[Jeritron]

If the Yankees don't win it all people will say they're failures because of the payroll and if they do win it all people will just say they should have anyway because of the payroll. Seems to be the way it works.

Not for me. I'm judging both cases on a seperate basis. I brought the real financial details up in response to Supreme. Didn't really mean to tangle the issues.

I say the Yankees failing to win the world series will be a failure just because of how hyped they are, how well they've played, and how much they've put into this season, both financially and on the field.

But that's baseball. Some may say "well they won 100 games, its not a failure"
Well, if you don't win the world series what does it matter if you win 100 or 80? Ya know?
I say this not only about the Yankees, but about all teams.
That's how I view it. If the Red Sox get knocked out, their season was a failure. Cut and dry. The ultimate goal is to win the world series.

Remember when the Mariners won the most games ever and then got bounced from the playoffs?
A professional sports season is all or nothing. You either win the championship, or fall short like the rest of the teams.

That doesn't mean the team sucks, or that all losers are equal failures. It just means "there's always next year". The season didn't work out.

[Jeritron]

I wish they played the Rockies game in the snow, but obv they had to call that

[Skippord]

I am pretty bummed about no Rockies game tonight

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Not for me. I'm judging both cases on a seperate basis. I brought the real financial details up in response to Supreme. Didn't really mean to tangle the issues.

I say the Yankees failing to win the world series will be a failure just because of how hyped they are, how well they've played, and how much they've put into this season, both financially and on the field.

But that's baseball. Some may say "well they won 100 games, its not a failure"
Well, if you don't win the world series what does it matter if you win 100 or 80? Ya know?
I say this not only about the Yankees, but about all teams.
That's how I view it. If the Red Sox get knocked out, their season was a failure. Cut and dry. The ultimate goal is to win the world series.

Remember when the Mariners won the most games ever and then got bounced from the playoffs?
A professional sports season is all or nothing. You either win the championship, or fall short like the rest of the teams.

That doesn't mean the team sucks, or that all losers are equal failures. It just means "there's always next year". The season didn't work out.

I guess I never really thought about the team that didn't win the World Series a failure. I guess it's just I never thought about 29 teams being failures. You really bring up some very strong points. I think if we continue to play the way we have up until now I think we could win the World Series.

It really depends on if these post season blues for CC and A-rod have really ended or not. I think that's a huge factor.

[Jeritron]

I don't like it, but I honestly think the Yankees will win the World Series.

I thought, and still think, the Red Sox team is better built for the playoffs and had potential to open up a can in the playoff format. But they've just not been playing well at all, so I can't call them the favorite right now by any stretch.

[Jeritron]

I am pretty bummed about no Rockies game tonight

and no ALDS games either

Are the Dodgers/Cards on?

[ClockShot]

Yeah. Dodgers/Cardinals is the only game on the dockett tonight.

[Skippord]

And the Cards will be swept apparently

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I don't like it, but I honestly think the Yankees will win the World Series.

I thought, and still think, the Red Sox team is better built for the playoffs and had potential to open up a can in the playoff format. But they've just not been playing well at all, so I can't call them the favorite right now by any stretch.


Yeah, but anything can happen. For all we know it will be a West Coast WS with the Dodgers/ Angels

[Droford]

I dont want to see the Yankees in the WS, but Id rather see Yankees/Dodgers than Angels/Dodgers.

[YOUR Hero]

Andre Eithier

[ClockShot]

Is it time to play the blame game in St. Louis yet?

[Loose Cannon]

for Yankee fans (including myself) anything less then a World Series Championship is always a failure these days. We've been spoiled for over 10 years now with win after win that it's almost unacceptable to not make it to the World Series. We've been brought back down to earth a little the past few years, but I can't sit here and deny this claim.

[Loose Cannon]

Is it time to play the blame game in St. Louis yet?

the bats haven't shown up and they've had a couple bad plays that were crucial in the series. kind of like the Sox, they just haven't shown up on offense.

[Droford]

for Yankee fans (including myself) anything less then a World Series Championship is always a failure these days. We've been spoiled for over 10 years now with win after win that it's almost unacceptable to not make it to the World Series. We've been brought back down to earth a little the past few years, but I can't sit here and deny this claim.
Im rooting for the Rockies to win the NLCS so that the two 93 Expansion teams can lay claim to beating the Yankees in the World Series. It would be outstanding.

[Triple Naitch]

Yankees have already lost to two expansion teams in the World Series.

[Loose Cannon]

yea. and I really don't consider that outstanding considering it's almost been over 15 years since the Rockies and Marlins came into the majors. Plus the Rockies made it to the World Series last year.

[Droford]

Yankees have already lost to two expansion teams in the World Series.
Well yeah, but the Diamondbacks were from 98.

[SammyG]

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

Next!!!!!!!

[Skippord]

that was awfully impressive by the Dodgers

but they should have lost game 2

[Emperor Smeat]

Did not expect a sweep from the Dodgers against the Cardinals but they really shut down Pujhols and the middle of the order bats of the Cardinals better than I thought they could.

NLCS should be good series since you'd have the tough division matchup of Rockies/Dodgers or a rematch of last year's Philies/Dodgers.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

yea. and I really don't consider that outstanding considering it's almost been over 15 years since the Rockies and Marlins came into the majors. Plus the Rockies made it to the World Series last year.

2 years ago! Last World Series was the Rays/Phillies. The 2007 World Series was the Sox/Rox World Series.

And I did not expect the Cards to be swept especially with Pujols and Holliday playing for them. (I still have a Hard time typing out Holliday Because my brain always tells me to type out Halladay. Why do their last names have to be so fucking similiar?)

[Jeritron]

Didn't even think of it, but as of last year all 4 of the 90s expansions teams have reached the world series

[YOUR Hero]

Cards were not expected to make the playoffs this year.

Kinda weird to hear that last night as they are a very solid team.Just because they didn't last year they are a wash? I thought that was a shallow statement. I figured they'd be in the thick of it this year.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

yea. and I really don't consider that outstanding considering it's almost been over 15 years since the Rockies and Marlins came into the majors. Plus the Rockies made it to the World Series last year.
Actually, it is pretty impressive when you consider this expansion era to the other two. All four expansion teams from the 90s have made the World Series. The longest was the Rockies at 15 years. Compare that to the previous expansion teams:

Angels: 42 years
Rangers: never
Astros: 44 years
Padres: 16 years
Expos/Nationals: never
Mariners: never
Blue Jays: 16 years

Only the Mets, Royals, and Brewers made it to the WS quicker than the Rockies but even then, none of them come close to doing as quick as the D-Backs (4 years) and Marlins (5 years) who both won it.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Cards were not expected to make the playoffs this year.

Kinda weird to hear that last night as they are a very solid team.Just because they didn't last year they are a wash? I thought that was a shallow statement. I figured they'd be in the thick of it this year.
Don't forget the Brewers won the Wild Card last year and it was slated to be a 2 team race between Chicago and Milwaukee.

Plus the Cards had so many pitching questions entering the season. Could Carpenter and Wainwright pitch full seasons? Who would be the #3? Who would close? They emphatically answered all three of those questions all while Chicago and Milwaukee stumbled.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

WOW, it looks like the Red Sox's season is done. I didn't think the Red Sox were gonna be swept. Now, the Yankees better focus on sweeping the Twins and get a little revenge on Pavano.

[Innovator]

nice to see the Angels cleanse themselves of the Red Sox

Now lets beat the fuck out of Pavano

[VonErichLives]

Why isn't there an mlb post-season thread?

Anyway, I was at the game... great seats. Congrats to the Angels.

[YOUR Hero]

Don't forget the Brewers won the Wild Card last year and it was slated to be a 2 team race between Chicago and Milwaukee.

Plus the Cards had so many pitching questions entering the season. Could Carpenter and Wainwright pitch full seasons? Who would be the #3? Who would close? They emphatically answered all three of those questions all while Chicago and Milwaukee stumbled.

Carpenter was coming back healthy. Franklyn showed last season in the 2nd half that he was a capable closer. They have a lot of offence. I personally didn't see Milwaukee being anything like they were last year. There's no reason they shouldn't have been, but I just didn't see them doing anything significant this year. The Cubs were a dissapointment, but I saw them and the Cards coming out of the division with one being the winner and the other the wild card.

Whatever though.

I saw the D'Backs as the West winners/contenders too.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Why isn't there an mlb post-season thread?

Anyway, I was at the game... great seats. Congrats to the Angels.


There was! But, Triple A closed it and said just to use this thread.

http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=95259

[SammyG]

i wanna watch some fuckin' snow baseball.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Apparently there is next to no chance Holliday is back in St. Louis next year. Boras is his agent so testing free agency was already likely, but the big holdup is gonna be trying to get a Pujols extension done 2 years in advance.

From the sounds of things, the STARTING point for Albert is gonna be the 10 years, $275 million A-Rod got. Wonder how close he'll get to $300 million.</font>

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Apparently there is next to no chance Holliday is back in St. Louis next year. Boras is his agent so testing free agency was already likely, but the big holdup is gonna be trying to get a Pujols extension done 2 years in advance.

From the sounds of things, the STARTING point for Albert is gonna be the 10 years, $275 million A-Rod got. Wonder how close he'll get to $300 million.

GOD DAMN! Pujols is a great hitter but I know who I am not gonna get when/if he is a free agent. That's just to much. And besides I unfortunately don't think he's clean. I think it's only a matter of time before he is tested positive for Roids.

No one can hit this well for this long. It just seems kinda peculiar. I think Albert may be on the list with Manny and Papi at some point unfortunately.

[SammyG]

Dodgers/Angels
or
Dodgers/Yanks

would be ssiiccckk

[McLegend]

Dodgers/Angels would be horrible, because of 10:00 starting times.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I think they've changed the rules after 2002...start times will be like 8 PM EST no matter where they are playing.</font>

[McLegend]

Well that makes that better.

[ClockShot]

I was listening to the Sox/Angels game on the radio at work, I figured Papelbon would have it wrapped up.

Half hour later I check my phone, that wasn't the case. Congrats to the 2 city Angels.

Now to collect our money back from Pavano with interest.

[Dragon]

I think the Yankees offense has tried way too hard to just destroy Pavano every time they've faced him this year and it has ended up hurting them.

[Crimson]

Dodgers/Angels hopefully make it.

[owenbrown]

baseball in the snow would be nice

[ClockShot]

EAT IT, PAVANO!

[thecc]

http://i43.tinypic.com/262w6di.gif

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Anybody who honestly didn't think the Yanks would beat Pavano is retarded IMO.

This year seems basically set up perfectly for the Yanks tbh. They have a chance to beat Pavano to advance to the ALCS, exorcise their demons with the Angels, and then beat either the defending WS champs or Joe Torre/Manny's team (can't see the Rockies making it there as much as I'd like it)</font>

[Triple Naitch]

What a horrible baserunning move. :nono:

[McLegend]

Wow

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Jesus Christ. They are just handing the series over.</font>

[Innovator]

ENTER SANDMAN

[thecc]

Game over.

THE YANKEEEEESSSS WINNNN

[Innovator]

BALLGAME OVER

ALDS OVER

YANKEES WIN

THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YANKEES WIN

[McLegend]

It's early, but I'm not liking this so far.

[Loose Cannon]

Is it me or did anyone else want to throw a left hook to Orlando Cabrera's face this series? the guy plays like such a clown.

[Loose Cannon]

and lol @ Twins fan trying his best to impersonate an A-Rod homer

[Jeritron]

Crapelbon

[Dragon]

4 days to wait for game 1 of the ALCS is gonna feel like an eternity.

[Skippord]

Well the Rockies won't win this series but I didn't really think they would

good to get the young guys some confidence and postseason at bats though

[SammyG]

So, my buddy watched the game, I didn't cuz I was at the library. Was there some moronic Rockies fan behind home plate being absolutely ridiculous all game? This is what he told me.

[Skippord]

lol yeah, he might very well be my new favorite human being ever

also Carlos Gonzalez is going to be incredibly good soon

[SammyG]

Tell me more about this fan

[Skippord]

he was just dancing behind home plate for 9 straight innings in freezing weather

and booing really loudly, cool guy

[SammyG]

My buddy sent a letter to PTI about him.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Anybody who honestly didn't think the Yanks would beat Pavano is retarded IMO.

This year seems basically set up perfectly for the Yanks tbh. They have a chance to beat Pavano to advance to the ALCS, exorcise their demons with the Angels, and then beat either the defending WS champs or Joe Torre/Manny's team (can't see the Rockies making it there as much as I'd like it)


I must be retarded then. It wouldn't be the first time a bad pitcher woke up in the morning and said "He was the best pitcher alive" and then ended up pitching like Cy fuckin Young. We get shut down by bad pitchers quite a few times.

But, I am really happy about this. Is there any way we can pay someone to have all the playoff games at our home though? Because the Angels home is the Yankees personal hell.

But Yeah beating the Dodgers would be a dream come true for me.

[Skippord]

it's incredibly annoying to think about all the stupid walks that cost the Rockies the game today(yesterday whatever the fuck)

[Skippord]

also Chase Utley fouled that ball off himself

but oh well

[Innovator]

Yanks won the last series out in LA of Anaheim in SoCal. Big series since it gave them some confidence out there.

[SammyG]

I wanna see a video of this Rockies fan

[ClockShot]

Anybody catch the Twins fan run onto the field. Laughing pretty hard at that, trying to jump over the centerfield wall to escape, but security got him.

[SammyG]

that was epic

[Innovator]

That was amazing, and of course Chip Caray tried to no sell it

[VonErichLives]

But that's baseball. Some may say "well they won 100 games, its not a failure"
Well, if you don't win the world series what does it matter if you win 100 or 80? Ya know?
I say this not only about the Yankees, but about all teams.
That's how I view it. If the Red Sox get knocked out, their season was a failure. Cut and dry. The ultimate goal is to win the world series.


This has been Hero's argument in the past and I admit back then I didn't fully agree, but now I do.

In the sense of sports not business (profit/loss) the goal is to win it all, not to win the WC, the Divison, the DS, CS... it's to be the World Series Winner.

So yeah, everyone else failed at their goal, now a team that goes to the WS and doesn't win had a more successful season then a team that didn't make the playoffs but they're still a failure.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I'd agree with that if everyone were on an even playing field but they're not. If the Pirates or Nationals have a winning record, nobody is going to call their season a failure because they didn't win the World Series. Certain fanbases are just spoiled and they get higher expectations.

[McLegend]

It should be everyone's goal to win a World Series, but the odds are so ridiculously high you can't call your season a failure if you don't win the World Series.

There is no way you can tell me the Twins season was a failure.

It's not logical.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Way to blow it Papelbon

[Jeritron]

I'd agree with that if everyone were on an even playing field but they're not. If the Pirates or Nationals have a winning record, nobody is going to call their season a failure because they didn't win the World Series. Certain fanbases are just spoiled and they get higher expectations.

I blame a lot of that on poor ownership. There should be more enforcement of teams that settle for mediocrity, sell off all their talent, and make no efforts to make a push and rally their market.
Not every market is going to be as big and profitable as others, but they can be successful and get the locals to care about their team.
They just have to go out there and do it.

It's just not fair to the fans, the players, and the rest of the league to have certain teams that intentionally suck to keep costs low and go for a small, but safe profit. I think there should be a league minimum on payroll. MLB should care more and say "if ownership has no intention of making their team successful GTFO"

[Droford]

Phillies fans around here are starting to get obnoxious, so I really kinda want to see the Rockies at least push this to game 5.

[McLegend]

I knew when Dexter Folwer jumped over Chase Utley it was going to change the game.

[SammyG]

holy shit. might be headed to a game 5 here.

[ClockShot]

Subway does wonders for Howard.

[SammyG]

Ryan Howard : Doin thangs

[McLegend]

FUCK YEAH MOTHER FUCKER

[SammyG]

Brad Lidge time

[Triple Naitch]

Oh god, I pray Madson closes.

[McLegend]

He's alll ready been pinched hit for.

[McLegend]

Has to be Lidge.

[McLegend]

O nevermind

[SammyG]

They can't. Didn't Cairo just pinch hit??

LOL Eyre is in! No Lidge!

[SammyG]

Carlos Gonzalez bout to do thangs.

[Innovator]

Lidge is ready to cry right now

[Triple Naitch]

Eyre makes me nervous too, after he left last night.

[SammyG]

Single is doing thangs, yes.

[McLegend]

Get a double play yo

[McLegend]

O it's Fowler... That's gonna be hard then.

[SammyG]

Lidge warming up, lollllllll

[ClockShot]

Street better have a cab ready if the Rockies don't come back from this.

[McLegend]

I think Lidge can do this.

[SammyG]

down to their last strike...

[ClockShot]

Is that a Triceratops the Rockies got for a mascot?

Interesting choice...

[ClockShot]

Start running, Huston.

[McLegend]

BAM

[SammyG]

Bring it on you Philly cocksucking faggots. Revenge shall be ours.

[DaveWadding]

Angels will win the WS this year. :cool:

[McLegend]

I knew when Dexter Folwer jumped over Chase Utley it was going to change the game.

Notice how I did not say change "outcome of the game."


Yeah boi

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Somehow, even 2 1/2 months after their season realistically ended, worse things are still to come for Mets fans. :mad: It's gonna be a Yanks/Phils WS.</font>

[McLegend]

Hamels needs to step up against the Dodgers.

[Skippord]

Is that a Triceratops the Rockies got for a mascot?

Interesting choice...
found triceratops bones on the site where Coors Field is built

[Skippord]

also, boy am I glad I went to that game :'(

[Skippord]

but Dex jumping over Chase Utley was incredible

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yankees are definitely winning the World Series this year. God damn it

[wjs]

Words cannot describe how completely underwhelmed I am by the playoffs this year.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Yankees are definitely winning the World Series this year. God damn it

I wouldn't be so sure if I were you. But that would be sweet. We'd be getting revenge on the Angels for everything they have done to the Yankees. And we would probably get the Yankees beating the Dodgers. And here's the best part..............................

I won't have to hear ESPN and the fuckin tabloids talk the off season about how fuckin stupid the Yankees were for getting rid of Torre.

[Big Fat Mike]

Yankees-Phillies

[Big Fat Mike]

Royals-Mets :shifty:

[Evil Vito]

Yankees are definitely winning the World Series this year. God damn it

<font color=goldenrod>Pretty much how I feel.

I don't even hate the Yankees as much as most Mets fans do...it's just the number of bandwagon and/or obnoxious fans that irks the hell out of me. After every Yanks win now I see a million Yanks shirts at school and Facebook "YEAH YANKS!" statuses from people who didn't mention shit about the Yanks until the playoffs started. If you are an honest, loyal fan that's totally fine but if not, fuck off.

Problem is I think there are a lot of people who would say the Yanks are their fav team if they were asked during the season, but they don't actively follow them until the playoffs, which makes you a fraud fan IMO.

I even felt that way in 2006 when the Mets were awesome and in the NLCS...loads of Mets shirts popping up all of a sudden in a predominantly Yankee town. Have no respect for bandwagoners.</font>

[DaveBrawl]

Ugh, sad and disappointed, but I can't really be mad at Street. He was so good all year, he just happened to have a bad game at a critical time. He was certainly better this year than I thought he was going to be. Oh well maybe next year.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Pretty much how I feel.

I don't even hate the Yankees as much as most Mets fans do...it's just the number of bandwagon and/or obnoxious fans that irks the hell out of me. After every Yanks win now I see a million Yanks shirts at school and Facebook "YEAH YANKS!" statuses from people who didn't mention shit about the Yanks until the playoffs started. If you are an honest, loyal fan that's totally fine but if not, fuck off.

Problem is I think there are a lot of people who would say the Yanks are their fav team if they were asked during the season, but they don't actively follow them until the playoffs, which makes you a fraud fan IMO.

I even felt that way in 2006 when the Mets were awesome and in the NLCS...loads of Mets shirts popping up all of a sudden in a predominantly Yankee town. Have no respect for bandwagoners.

:y: :y:

I feel the exact way about Red Sox fans. I can't stand those bandwagon fans. I don't mind Red Sox fans at all. It's the people who have never really followed the Red Sox before that piss me off.

[McLegend]

I'm still excited about the game.... Unbelievable

[SammyG]

Wolf/Hamels game one.

[Skippord]

Ugh, sad and disappointed, but I can't really be mad at Street. He was so good all year, he just happened to have a bad game at a critical time. He was certainly better this year than I thought he was going to be. Oh well maybe next year.
Street had Utley struck out at least two times that were called balls I believe anyway

still very optimistic about next year with Jeff Francis coming back and Carlos Gonzalez getting a full major league year

[DaveBrawl]

You know it's been so long that I forget about Francis. :lol: Glad he'll be back though.

[Skippord]

he was on Rockies All Access fishing the other day and I wondered why he was fishing with his shoulder being freshly repaired

[DaveBrawl]

Let's just say he was testing the quality of work the surgeon did and hope for the best.

[Skippord]

that also might have been the most boring episode of any show ever

"let's watch Jeff Francis and some dude fish for like half an hour"

[DaveBrawl]

Would of been great if he had gotten upset and unleashed a fastball upside the other guys head.

Then again that would be in the shoulder surgery area again.

[Skippord]

there was something that confused me at the Rockies game yesterday

Ian Stewart was pinch hit for in the ninth by Eric Young Jr, but when Tulowitzki was up in the last at bat of the game Stewart was on deck. I don't understand why that was

[DaveBrawl]

I'm not sure, maybe they did a defensive switch and put EY2 in for whoever they switched Stewart with that way they could have both of them bat.

[McLegend]

Street had Utley struck out at least two times that were called balls I believe anyway

Yeah I know the Phillies got a lot calls, but what those pitches to Chase Utley were clearly balls. A foot outside.

C'mon now.

[The Gold Standard]

The umpires in general have had a terrible post season.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

All right I gotta ask you why the fuck would they schedule an ALCS game for 4:00 on a Monday? I really hope I don't have to work this coming Monday.

[Skippord]

Yeah I know the Phillies got a lot calls, but what those pitches to Chase Utley were clearly balls. A foot outside.

C'mon now.
nah bro they were def strikes

[SammyG]

NLCS PREDICTIONS!

[DaveWadding]

Phillies sweep.

[SammyG]

.... what else would I expect from a fat bitter man.

[Jeritron]

Phillies

[DaveWadding]

uh, how about the fact that the Dodgers are no better than middle of the pack against the Phillies?

Dodgers batters versus Phillies:

.276 (8th highest out of 20 opponents) / .314 (16/20) / .413 (9/20) / .727 OPS (12/20)

Dodgers batters vs. Phillies pitching at Dodger Stadium:

.229/.265/.329/.594

Phillies pitching statistics vs. LA:

66.1 IP, 3.12 ERA, 1.24 WHIP, 48 K (6.5 K/9)

[DaveWadding]

Not that any of that means shit to you

[DaveWadding]

MAAAAAAANNNNYYYYYYWOOOOOOODDDDDD

[SammyG]

Um.. Dodgers and the Phillies are very evenly matched.

Phillies 3.12 era?
Dodgers had like a 3.14. Basically the same.

Phillies batted .229 against us this year I believe?

there is absolutely NO way it will be a sweep. I would bet you anything.

[Skippord]

I'm gonna bet on the Phils

Cliff Lee is pretty good

[Skippord]

and Jayson Werth looks like Edge

[McLegend]

nah bro they were def strikes

No they weren't.

I'm not even being a homer here. They were def balls. Not close at all.

[Skippord]

I actually have no idea, was on the first base line

it seemed like they were strikes to me though

[Skippord]

http://www3.allaroundphilly.com/blogs/delcotimes/ryanl/uploaded_images/url-775576.jpg

http://olympia.fortunecity.com/stonecold/443/edge.jpg

[SammyG]

Fail, Skip.

But yeah that's fine. Everyone picked the Cards to destroy us, too.

[Skippord]

it depends on Hamels really

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Sammy your fluctuations in cockiness are very amusing.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

KEEP FEEDING OFF THAT HATE

Fuck Dodgers gonna get owned in playoffs :(

THATS FINE KEEP HATIN JUST LIKE YOU HATED ON US PLAYING THE CARDS DODGESHOOOOWWWWWWWW

[Triple Naitch]

Phillies in 6
Yankees in 5

[Evil Vito]

Phillies in 6
Yankees in 5

<font color=goldenrod>Agreed. :(

If its Yanks/Phils it might be the first WS that I don't watch a single inning. The thought of it makes me sick.</font>

[Innovator]

Thought of it makes me wet

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Phillies in 6
Yankees in 5

God I hope not. I think I read on ESPN that it had been a really long time since a National League team won 2 World Series in a row. And I am kinda worried that this could be their year to end that.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Hasn't been done since the Big Red Machine in 75/76. And wouldn't you know it, their 2nd WS title came against the New York Yankees.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Hasn't been done since the Big Red Machine in 75/76. And wouldn't you know it, their 2nd WS title came against the New York Yankees.


Great, another reason why I don't want want to face Philly in the World Series.

[SammyG]

No one is giving LA a shot?

[Triple Naitch]

Not with Vicente Padilla as the game 2 starter.

[SammyG]

Um, did you see what Padilla has done since he's been a Dodger? Oh, yeah, go undefeated. Did you see him manhandle the St.Louis lineup in game 3 and get us the sweep?

Plus, is he really ther game 2 starter? I figured it would be Wolf.

[Skippord]

Wolf in game 1

also Padilla got lit up in one start that I remember

[Triple Naitch]

ESPN said today Wolf was starting game 4 and Kershaw would start game 1.

Don't forget Padilla is Padilla and will go back to his old ways in no time.

[SammyG]

Uh. No, Skip. It's Kershaw in game 1. It was announced this morning.

[SammyG]

Wolf in game 4? So It'll be Kershaw, Kuroda, Padilla, then Wolf? Hm.