Game of Thrones - SPOILERS INSIDE

[mitchables]

You can’t blame people for theorizing stuff in a show full of so many plot twists. And I don’t think the Night King being a Targarean is crazy at all. There’s been tons of Targareans throughout Westeros history and we don’t know everything about them.

It’s a lot less crazy than Tyrion being a time traveling Targarean anyway.

except we know the night king was a first man, not a valyrian

i mean, yeah, both of those groups have origins in essos, and i guess it is possible that the man who became the night king was the product of interbreeding between them - hence lacking typical valyrian characteristics, like jon - thus making him half-valyrian/half-targaryen-ancestor or whatever, but... come on

i just feel like, with three episodes to go, it is a hella long bow to draw to start introducing information like that now

i'm not blaming anyone for theorising anything. i just think it is a stupid theory

[Frank Drebin]

Well, they just spent one episode on the White Walkers after all that leading up to it, so I'm sure they've got plenty of time to get to that. Especially with how they seemingly like to rush through things these last couple of seasons.

[Fignuts]

Where do we know that? Are you thinking of The Night’s King from the book? Because him and the Night King aren’t the same thing.

[mitchables]

Well, they just spent one episode on the White Walkers after all that leading up to it, so I'm sure they've got plenty of time to get to that. Especially with how they seemingly like to rush through things these last couple of seasons.

honestly i thought it was going to be two episodes of the battle of winterfell, one to deal with cersei, and an epilogue

but i guess it's looking now like it's one at winterfell, two for cersei, and an epilogue?

if they do an epilogue at all. or maybe the split, really, is three at winterfell, three dealing with cersei

i can't imagine they'll arrive at king's landing within the space of the next episode

as you said though, the pacing is all fucked up and it's all DnD bullshit anyway so who knows

[mitchables]

Where do we know that? Are you thinking of The Night’s King from the book? Because him and the Night King aren’t the same thing.

i am well aware of the distinction between the night king and the night's king

we know that because, in the show, the children of the forest captured a human to create the night king in an attempt to combat the first men encroaching on their environment, and the only humans in westeros at that point were... the first men

[Fignuts]

All that foreshadowing for one (albeit sweet af) episode. White Walkers were shown in the first scene of the entire series and now they're done just like that?? Winter was coming....and coming....and coming....aaaand.....it lasted one night. I dunno man....

A part of me feels this way, but it’s overshadowed by the fact that this was literally the most epic episode in the series to date.

[Fignuts]

i am well aware of the distinction between the night king and the night's king

we know that because, in the show, the children of the forest captured a human to create the night king in an attempt to combat the first men encroaching on their environment, and the only humans in westeros at that point were... the first men

Ah, ok

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

It doesn't make sense that WunWun wouldn't have been burned or decapitated after the battle of the bastards.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The battle seemed so fast paced with whizzing camera shots to even know where the frig you were especially at the beginning. Seemed unncessary especially as it was dark too.

So The Night King goes through all these seasons and not once did he utter a word, not even fuckin abrakadabra to raise the dead. After all that rough and tumble, while I did mark out somewhat about it I felt that it just ended up being so fast paced... I would have thought they would have left some of the battle into episode 4.

Shame we didn't get any Ned Stark cameo, or even Lady Stoneheart if only for a fleeting second. Good to see Tyrion and Sansa though, he was always right for her...

So in the end we will have Jon and Dany as Stark/Targaryan, Arya and Gendry as Stark/Baratheon and maybe Sansa/Tyrion as Lannister/Stark? That is their dynasty sorted right there..

You don't come back from a beheading.

[Frank Drebin]

A part of me feels this way, but it’s overshadowed by the fact that this was literally the most epic episode in the series to date.

Adrenaline rush of the episode will wear off soon enough.

[Frank Drebin]

Why does Melisandre just die? Did she freeze? Why did she do that??

[mitchables]

It doesn't make sense that WunWun wouldn't have been burned or decapitated after the battle of the bastards.



do we know for a fact the wight giant was wun wun? i don't think that's necessarily been confirmed anywhere. people have speculated, but it could also have been literally any other giant. mag the mighty even?

[mitchables]

Why does Melisandre just die? Did she freeze? Why did she do that??

she was being kept alive by the lord of light's magic. she was actually like 400 years old, and used magic to appear young. we'd previously seen her in her 'actual' form when she didn't have the necklace on a few seasons back; when she took her necklace off after winterfell, the light went out from the stone in the centre, signifying she was no longer under the lord of light's protection. kinda like beric; she was being kept alive to serve a purpose, and when that purpose was served, she was allowed to die

[Frank Drebin]

That makes sense save for that she took the necklace off before. Therefore, she should have died then if that was what was keeping her alive, yes?

[Triple A]

Seems pointless to use the spoiler tags in this thread! Why would people click this thread if they haven't seen the episode yet...

[mitchables]

That makes sense save for that she took the necklace off before. Therefore, she should have died then if that was what was keeping her alive, yes?

eh, let's call it the effects of residual magic. she died within like 30-60 seconds of removing the necklace. that's still reasonable

or maybe the necklace was what was keeping her looking young, and it was the lord of light who was actually keeping her alive. either way, you get what i'm saying

i mean, when the night king died, all the wights didn't instantly drop dead. it emanated out like a wave. there were still wights moving after he'd shattered. so magic clearly doesn't fade instantaneously.

[mitchables]

Seems pointless to use the spoiler tags in this thread! Why would people click this thread if they haven't seen the episode yet...

i was doing it out of respect for people who had started their posts with spoiler tags but honestly i am with you here

[Tom Guycott]

I just now had an opportunity to actually see the episode.

I really wanted sometime during this episode just a cutaway of Cersei drinking wine in King's Landing.

I actually thought this was coming when Bran said "Gotta go now." and we had the bird transition. Thought they were headed there.

Everyone: How in Seven Hells are we going to beat The Night King?
Arya: Super easy, barely an inconvenience.

Wipes out a swath of warriors, Wun Wun(rip bro) and a motherfucking dragon
Gets Shanked by Neds youngest daughter.
Night King indeed.

When you program an OP bullet sponge boss battle for your game, but the community finds an exploit.

Speaking of game analogies, Lyanna>Emille

[Tom Guycott]

Seems pointless to use the spoiler tags in this thread! Why would people click this thread if they haven't seen the episode yet...

I get your point, but I'm of the mindset of better safe than sorry. I've accidentally opened threads I didn't intend to.

On that note, you know how difficult it has been to not see anything spoiler-y in the last 24 hours? At least the thread has a general title and not some BS summarized tangent about a major plot point. Those are the worst.

[XL]

That giant wasn’t Wun Wun. They burned his body.

[Fignuts]

Speaking of which, not enough people talking about how awesome Lady Mormont was in this episode. As if she's ever anything less than awesome.

[Tom Guycott]

I watched all the "behind the scenes" stuff for this one, and I find it hard to believe she was supposed to be a "one scene character". That girl Gus Fring'd herself into not only more screen time, but turned every scene she was in into big dick, O.G., scenery-chewing gloriousness.

If I ever have a little girl, I'm seriously thinking of naming her Bella Lyanne.

"We're not a large house, but we're a proud one; and every man from Bear Island fights with the strength of ten mainlanders!"

[Seanny One Ball]

That's weird man.

[Innovator]

https://i.redd.it/pjimee20u9v21.png

[Seanny One Ball]

I just saw this and it was excellent. I wasn't going to bother but I felt I would only be cheating myself by purposefully ignoring it.

Sophie Turner has gone up incalculably as an actress after finally having a chance not to suck arse. More importantly she was good and there is hope for her story to end rather beautifully.

Maisie Williams stole the show though. Her, John Snow, Theon, Jorah and too many others to mention all had moments that could have stolen entire episodes but all came within ten minutes or so of each other.

That's the second truly perfect Game Of Thrones episode and the place I will leave my viewing if I hear any rumblings of discontent about the way it ends.

You know abrupt changes are on the horizon, even after that cluster fuck.

[Gray]

This is ace, Tywin's voice emanates

https://giant.gfycat.com/SentimentalGlamorousCollie.webm

[Fignuts]

Yeah, the more I’ve had time to think about it, the less I like Arya killing the night king. Seems very fan fiction.

[McLegend]

How is it fan fiction?

We have seen her training to fight death since basically the first episode.

[Seanny One Ball]

Precisely

[Lucky]

Game Of Thrones Hell Yeah

[Ruien]

Honest question. Who would beat Arya in a 1 on 1 fight right now?

[Sixx]

Honest question. Who would beat Arya in a 1 on 1 fight right now?

Lio Rush.

[rez]

Yeah, the more I’ve had time to think about it, the less I like Arya killing the night king. Seems very fan fiction.

stfu, ya fookin kneeler

[Seanny One Ball]

Honest question. Who would beat Arya in a 1 on 1 fight right now?


Arya isn't the type to deliberately put herself in that situation without heavily loading the deck in her own favour. That's her whole deal, surprise and efficiency.

So she could kill anyone and everyone, just not in a gladiatorial situation.

[Ruien]

I just saw this and it was excellent. I wasn't going to bother but I felt I would only be cheating myself by purposefully ignoring it.

Sophie Turner has gone up incalculably as an actress after finally having a chance not to suck arse. More importantly she was good and there is hope for her story to end rather beautifully.

Maisie Williams stole the show though. Her, John Snow, Theon, Jorah and too many others to mention all had moments that could have stolen entire episodes but all came within ten minutes or so of each other.

That's the second truly perfect Game Of Thrones episode and the place I will leave my viewing if I hear any rumblings of discontent about the way it ends.

You know abrupt changes are on the horizon, even after that cluster fuck.


WHOA SPOILERS

[Seanny One Ball]

Coming in and finding a post without spoilers in a sarcastic attempt to undermine a basic act of decency is not the correct way to mock me.

[Fignuts]

K, I'd like Cersei to die now please.

[Lock Jaw]

Jamie kills Cersei and Tyrion kills Dany

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

King Bronn.

[GD]

Wasn't expecting Rhaegal to die. Oh well!

[Triple A]

Missandei has beautiful eyebrows

[GD]

I don’t know if you’re being sincere but I noticed them (like a lot) before her demise.

[Triple A]

Yes I am being sincere... beautiful perfect eyebrows...

[Triple A]

cool...

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[slik]

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[Gray]

Just not feeling this episode. Or this season really on a whole...

This episode felt this way because of all the issues with it...

Sansa being told a secret and in her very next scene blabbing about said secret.
No "aftermath" to the conversations. Such as Jon telling the girls his secret, Sansa telling the secret.
Misande somehow being teleported from inside a ship to King's Landing, without her being soaked in the process.
Pissed that they have killed off another dragon. Get to fuck.
Jaime doing a 360 on his previous 360.

In fact I think the only two scenes I enjoyed were Bronn visiting - Although can't help noticing how he looked different... Either Botox or eyebrows! Don't know. But his scenes are always enjoyable.

However king of the episode - Tormund! Amazing as usual, especially when he got jibbed off :rofl:

[Innovator]

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Bran fucking up the timeline again

[Innovator]

https://i.redd.it/ovb4s5tazlw21.jpg

[Frank Drebin]

Can't wait for Dany's tyrant ass to get got.

*Triple A post

[Seanny One Ball]

If this ends with me saying "The wrong Stark kid got naked", I don't mean Bran.

Get them out Turner, do it for the plot.

[Seanny One Ball]

She could get her tits out and end the conflict. Nobody would even know Cersei's name after that.

[Fignuts]

Eh, her rack doesn't appear to be war ending.

[Seanny One Ball]

Get yer duds out

[Gray]

Sort of NSFW?
http://www.imagebam.com/image/cfd30e947647414
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She's certainly okay'ish. Probably enough to give Theon the funnies.

[Seanny One Ball]

Her tattoos are so shit...

[Seanny One Ball]

The best ending possible for Sansa would be her and Tyrion living happily ever after.
Tyrion better not die.

If Samwell or Tyrion die now I will be furious. None of my favourites were ever going to make it besides them.

[Frank Drebin]

Just wondering who's going to fight for the IC title at SummerSlam with all these mid carders getting killed off.

[Seanny One Ball]

Warrior in a 13 second squash

[Innovator]

Just wondering who's going to fight for the IC title at SummerSlam with all these mid carders getting killed off.

Probably going to have to fast track an opener to get a push. Pod the Rod maybe

[Sixx]

Her tattoos are so shit...

She's an X-Man.

[Innovator]

https://i.redd.it/vd32akhan4x21.png

[GD]

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[Frank Drebin]

Tyrant ass cunt.

[Seanny One Ball]

Do not like what I just read on the live blog.
This is what I was worried about.

[Seanny One Ball]

Sounds like some foolishly rushed character development has riddled the plot with holes rather sensationally.

I knew this would happen. They should have sewn seeds earlier.

[Frank Drebin]

Yeah.

Another great "stand alone" episode but it's all going at such a pace that if you've been watching the whole series it feels oddly unearned.

I'm sure everyone will say how great it is but in the grand scheme of it all it's a pretty big letdown. Was hoping that the issues that plagued season 7 would get ironed out this season after they've had so much time to get it right but it was just a harbinger of how they'd be ending it. The show is still good, but it's a shadow of its former, great, self.

[Frank Drebin]

It's even worse the more I think about it. I just want to watch the last episode to get it over with at this point.

[Frank Drebin]

Is Brianne still sobbing somewhere? Is that where we ended her after all that? Did Bronn just go back to....wherever he was the last few seasons? Jamie got captured to say goodbye to Tyrion? It's all so very....ugh.

[Frank Drebin]

Still not as bad as the ending of Mass Effect 3 though.

[Seanny One Ball]

It just sounds really slapdash. As if they were more worried about making sure the right people died rather than ensuring they died in the right way.

[Lock Jaw]

She was killing younglings!!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Still not as bad as the ending of Mass Effect 3 though.

It's not the end yet.

Kings Landing def got the Mulkey-Mania/Barry Horowitz experience though.

[Triple A]

Episode was really cool imo!...

[Lock Jaw]

Lots of powerful moments tonight.... yeah, the show does feel rushed and just "let's get things over as fast as we can and kill everybody who needs to die and end their stories"....... but on the whole, I'm still enjoying it "on the edge of my seat".

Thought for sure that horse was gonna kill Arya at the end

[Triple A]

Clegane Bowl shot with the dragon flying above was sweet as hell

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6azIkYUwAAq71N.jpg:large

[Triple A]

Would be cool if the series ends with Westeros run via direct democracy and worker communes and the whole show was communist propaganda

[Lock Jaw]

"It's over! I have the high ground!" - The Mountain


Two Episode III references in one night....

[Fignuts]

Mad Queen probably the most shocking moment since the red wedding. Agree with everyone else though, that it was rushed. Her heel turn deserved another episode or two of build up.

[Fignuts]

Clegane Bowl totally lived up to the hype though.

[Fignuts]

Season should have been a few episodes longer. I don't care how long it would take. I'd have preferred they do it right.

[Fignuts]

Lots of powerful moments tonight.... yeah, the show does feel rushed and just "let's get things over as fast as we can and kill everybody who needs to die and end their stories"....... but on the whole, I'm still enjoying it "on the edge of my seat".

Thought for sure that horse was gonna kill Arya at the end

Yeah, its still definitely fun to watch. I just wish Martin would of taken a minute to stop inhaling cheeseburgers and finish the books before these less talented writers filled in.

[DrA]

Mad Queen probably the most shocking moment since the red wedding. Agree with everyone else though, that it was rushed. Her heel turn deserved another episode or two of build up.

I don't think it was shocking in the way the Red Wedding was since it was discernible where they were headed with this, whereas the Red Wedding scene completely caught me off guard as someone who hadn't read the books. I thought it was well done, but it seems like the last couple of seasons have been pretty straightforward with their storytelling, there haven't been those "hit you from behind moments" that I can recall. The last scene I remember feeling that way about was the church explosion.

[Lock Jaw]

Wonder how Arya Stark was seemingly the only (human) survivor on that whole block/city. Could have at least shown some other people moving about the wreckage to show that other people survived too....

[Fignuts]

There was something about her that was a little off, during the episode, but I didn't expect her to go apeshit on the city. A few scenes of her moping doesn't earn that scene, imo. As it was it was out of character.

[Triple A]

Wonder how Arya Stark was seemingly the only (human) survivor on that whole block/city. Could have at least shown some other people moving about the wreckage to show that other people survived too....

I liked the scene where she was trying to save the group of people (and mother and daughter) but then they immediately all got killed... Was a good lil thing to show that not everything was magically going right for her

[Lock Jaw]

Wonder who Varys was writing all those letters to and if any got out....

[GD]

I watched the latest episode with a couple of friends. It was certainly intense. There wasn't anything that particularly bothered me except for Jamie's demise, and Dany becoming more like her father. Curious to see how they

WRAP

IT

UP

in the final episode.

[Triple A]

Do not like what I just read on the live blog.
This is what I was worried about.

What do you mean by this... How come you read a live blog instead of watching the episode...

[Frank Drebin]

Wonder who Varys was writing all those letters to and if any got out....

Captain Marvel

[GD]

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[Fignuts]

Just found out the same guys writing these episodes are the same guys who wrote Wolverine: Origins.

So that explains a lot.

[Ruien]

Whow.... heel turn to the max. Arya is going to get to kill a queen after all.

I get people being upset with how quickly things are going but with only so many episodes (and the 2nd episode being wasted) it was to be expected.

[Ruien]

She knows she has to rebuild all that shit too right?

[Seanny One Ball]

What do you mean by this... How come you read a live blog instead of watching the episode...

I don't have Sky so I can't watch it live and I wasn't going to run the risk of spending 80 minutes watching something that would annoy me so I checked what was going down.


I was worried about how 6 episodes could contain any real conclusion and now I can see they are taking it full circle:
There is no real progress in the Game of Thrones, nobody is truly good or evil in the Game Of Thrones,
History repeats itself in The Game Of Thrones etc...

[Seanny One Ball]

Basically The Game Of Thrones ruins everybody. We saw it at the start, a broken rule of a faded warrior across the seven kingdoms and across the world were discontented and angry allies and foes who by now have all risen and fallen in various incredible ways.

Now the next generation are doing the exact same thing as we approach a moment for the world to look back on a time of seemingly endless war... Just as the past was spoken of by Ned, Robert, Tywin and Co.

[XL]

I don't have Sky so I can't watch it live and I wasn't going to run the risk of spending 80 minutes watching something that would annoy me so I checked what was going down.

Get NOW TV, it costs £7.99 a month, cancel after 2 months. Fuck reading spoilers :roll:

[XL]

Anyway, Cersei’s death was a huge letdown.

[Seanny One Ball]

Get NOW TV, it costs £7.99 a month, cancel after 2 months. Fuck reading spoilers :roll:



A live recounting of events is almost as good as watching something provided you are interested in the story. Plus I can watch it whenever I can be bothered walking 15 minutes down the road.
The visual experience is secondary to a strong storyline and in all honesty while the show has been good, it can't touch the source material for detail.

I'm not sure why you think that equates to seeing a spoiler...

Do you think someone else spitting in your soup is the same as you spitting in your soup?

[Innovator]

I can't believe Jon charged like that last night

https://i.redd.it/zdlvbuxs11y21.jpg

[Fignuts]

Anyway, Cersei’s death was a huge letdown.

Yep.

Not to mention Jaime's arc seems kind of pointless. All that slowly built up redemption for him to just run back to cersei and die with her.

[Innovator]

It was nice to see her turn into a bumbling mess before she died.

[Seanny One Ball]

Yep.

Not to mention Jaime's arc seems kind of pointless. All that slowly built up redemption for him to just run back to cersei and die with her.


This and Dany turning full Mad Queen seem like stupidly rapid character developments. The moments that built towards these regressions/progressions should have been spaced out further and been given greater display. Dany lost a lot of her nearest and dearest and yet had they done it gradually you could have seen signs of her descent into mad vengeance earlier and better.

[Frank Drebin]

That's the main problem with these last 2 seasons. The show has gotten away from what made everyone love it. Small moments and "side quests" that might not have been integral to the larger narrative but it gave you insight into who these characters were and why they did the things they did. There has been none of that recently.

Combine that with just the overall sloppiness of how everything has been executed and you get a truly baffling end to what was once a great show. They Dexter'd it.

[Frank Drebin]

It was nice to see her turn into a bumbling mess before she died.

I dunno. I kept waiting for her to have a trick up her sleeve but it never happened. I didn't get it. She just stood there. This is the same person who blew up the high septum (or whatever that temple was called) after getting a bunch of her enemies to converge there. This same person just fn stood there?? Wtf

[Fignuts]

It's like the early seasons of GoT are a William Regal match. Takes his time telling the story, and everything he does means something. Meanwhile, these past couple seasons have been a Seth Rollins match. They're big and flashy, and illicit a lot of "oohs" and ahhs", but he forgets to sell, blows a spot or two, and at the end of the day, doesn't tell a particularly good story.

[Lock Jaw]

I dunno. I kept waiting for her to have a trick up her sleeve but it never happened. I didn't get it. She just stood there. This is the same person who blew up the high septum (or whatever that temple was called) after getting a bunch of her enemies to converge there. This same person just fn stood there?? Wtf

Yeah... was really expecting her to have some sort of diabolical plan.... At the very least, her military defenses were better executed than the defense of Winterfell. (The defenses just crumbled via the overwhelming power of the dragon, and not being able to shoot it down before all their crossbow things were destroyed)

[Seanny One Ball]

The dragons have been handled so badly too.

Jobbers.

I think they were supposed to show that without a rider the dragons are essentially hit or miss but in the mayhem it just made them look useless.

Also check episode four for some awful CGI of dragon wings flapping. It was so poor...

The dragons might as well not have been in this. Biggest cock tease of all.

[Triple A]

The dragon was used to destroy King's Landing... was v important imo!

[Triple A]

Lots of people shocked by Dany's heel turn... Feel like she has been a heel for several seasons now... acting like a tyrant who lusts for power over others...

Def a huge overlap of "slay kween" type people who loved Dany for being a "bad ass powerful woman CEO" and people who love Hillary Clinton... both pieces of shit...

[Triple A]

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[Seanny One Ball]

The dragon was used to destroy King's Landing... was v important imo!

One dragon destroyed Kings Landing while two others were annihilated by different types of projectile out of nowhere...one was thrown by hand.

Dragons are a bit shit if you ask me.

[Seanny One Ball]

Lots of people shocked by Dany's heel turn... Feel like she has been a heel for several seasons now... acting like a tyrant who lusts for power over others...


She has historically been an advocate of mercy but there is plenty of evidence that without the counsel of others she would have made a series of egregious, sadistic decisions along the way.

The way they went wrong was purely with timing. If they had killed off Jorah heroically after she had pardoned him the second time then had Missandei killed off right at the start of this season or even last season, you could then have her begin this season with vengeance in mind. Varys would be taken out and the moment that happened the audience would be like "Oh shit she's going to burn them all just like her dad".

They rushed the lust for death and now she just looks like a bad bastard instead of a grieving, angry child with huge power.

Her story is Sansa's but Sansa is supposed to be the good one, the one who being traded off as an unwilling wife and enduring wedding night rape did not ruin. The major problem is that Sophie Turner came off as far more cold and angry than Dany did, to the point where you have to say it's bad writing. Add to this that Dany and Sansa are supposed to be the same age roughly but clearly are not in the show... It all gets too confusing to interpret as well masked intention. I think this last few seasons suffered without the source text there as a guide.

[Heisenberg]

Lots of people shocked by Dany's heel turn... Feel like she has been a heel for several seasons now... acting like a tyrant who lusts for power over others...

Def a huge overlap of "slay kween" type people who loved Dany for being a "bad ass powerful woman CEO" and people who love Hillary Clinton... both pieces of shit...



"lots of people" is better than the people on Twitter assuming "every1" has the same reaction. She has been torching folks for a minute now, also believe she was a distant fan of Ned Stark and heard that the townspeople cheered for his beheading

[Seanny One Ball]

Best thing about last episode was The Hound. His character has been well treated throughout the show, he along with Theon, Jaime Lannister and Jorah Mormon was one of the hugely flawed that all had to die heroically to receive any redemption.
At least that's the plan they created for them all quite clearly only to have Jaime Lannister u-turn back towards damnation.

Hmmm.

Maybe they are saying that deflowering a middle aged manly virgin is so repugnant that it'll make you yearn for certain death?

[Fignuts]

"lots of people" is better than the people on Twitter assuming "every1" has the same reaction. She has been torching folks for a minute now, also believe she was a distant fan of Ned Stark and heard that the townspeople cheered for his beheading

Easy to blame the people for cheering Ned’s execution because we the viewers knew the truth. But the Lannister’s hadn’t revealed their cuntiness to the people yet, so they had no reason to doubt Ned was a traitor. Also, the story takes place over the course of years. A lot of the kids she torched probably weren’t even born when Ned was killed.

Everyone she’s killed up til now had it coming.

[Tom Guycott]

Still not as bad as the ending of Mass Effect 3 though.

That remains to be seen... wait until we see what color the last episode is.

[Tom Guycott]

I will say that this whole "rushed pacing" seems spot on.

It feels like they just want the show to be over, and resolving the plot period has a far higher precidence than satisfaction. I'm getting the same feeling of a desperate abruptness as that from the final season of Sherlock, the ending for Netflix Punisher, or even way back with the last episode of that Mortal Kombat TV show where, since the show was cancelled, they just killed everyone the end.

There's not much satisfaction in this, and I say that as someone who has zero idea about the books vs the show. Seems like if they had taken more episodes to flesh out some of these moments so they don't seem like straight out "what the fuck?"

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Did Arya get the horse at the same place she Eddard got beheaded?

[Lock Jaw]

I think the horse well def be sitting on the throne before all things are said and done

[Tom Guycott]

Plot Twist: The horse is a Targaryen. And a male. And older than Jon.

[mitchables]

so... it'll be king bran at the end of all this, right

can't see dany surviving long enough to take the throne properly

jon doesn't want it (HE DOESN'T WANT IT), so if dany doesn't shank him he will probably do what he always does and retreat to the wall or across the sea or otherwise run in literally any direction away from king's landing

doubt it'll be sansa, she seems pretty happy as lady of winterfell; equally dubious it'll go to arya

def won't be tyrion or sam or davos on the throne, though i imagine they'll all end up in the small council (if tyrion isn't killed for letting jaime go)

unlikely it'd go to gendry, so... yeah, i guess bran? king three eyed raven I

[mitchables]

Yep.

Not to mention Jaime's arc seems kind of pointless. All that slowly built up redemption for him to just run back to cersei and die with her.

i've thought about this a bit and i think jaime's redemption was always a bit of a red herring. he SEEMS like he's on the road to redemption and even occasionally acts with real valour but then again he's a knight, so that's not that special; under every apparently selfless act, the fact remains he is an infatuated, incestuous, attempted child murderer who always crumbles for his sister

i think we're so conditioned to believe tv should adhere to morally or otherwise fulfilling arcs - people atone for their sins, achieve redemption, get what's coming to them etc - so it's jarring when it fails to happen. but people are more likely to let you down than they are to fundamentally change who they are and surprise you with some grand swing to redemption. jaime deciding at the last moment that it's all too hard and he should run back to cersei is frankly perfectly apt for him as a character

likewise cersei; we feel her death was underwhelming because she was an awful person, so she should get her just desserts, right? well, yeah, but the world doesn't work like that, and sometimes evil people just end up getting crushed to death by the falling ruins of a city without any sense of poetry or ever having to appreciate the magnitude of their own awfulness /shrug

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Well, he did rape Cercie during his "redemption" so was it really a redemption? Also, had the Tully uncle murdered and poisoned Old Lady Tyrell.

[Innovator]

And the whole baby catapult threat

[mitchables]

this is my point... people complaining that his 'redemption' arc was 'thrown out the window' because he went through the physical and emotional ringer only to pack it in and run back to cersei anyway... i'm saying it was a perfectly reasonable act for someone of his established character, with or without the hardships and epiphanies endured over the course of the show.

is it satisfying to see, for us as viewers? maybe not. is it believable? absolutely

[Fignuts]

Well, believable isn’t always the right choice, and when you spend a number of seasons actually getting people to root for a sister fucker who tried to murder a child, it’s disappointing to see them throw it away just because that’s more realistic.

Likewise you’d have a point on Cersei if the whole show followed that formula. But this show has excelled at giving its villains satisfying comeuppance. To set that bar only to abandon it with the end of the series greatest villain is inconsistent.

[mitchables]

fair enough, but any disappointment we feel over jaime's path and his failure to see it through is probably on us for being coaxed into rooting for a sister-fucking would-be child-killer in the first place

that is not a description that would engender any kind of support in any other show

anyway, my point doesn't evaporate just because the show is inconsistent in its execution; the fact remains that, regardless, sometimes evil people don't have to confront the monster inside before they die, whether or not the series has acknowledged that prior to now

i'm not saying i agree with the choice (esp. in cersei's case, as i am def in the camp who feels a little miffed by the way she went out); i just don't think it's as inexplicable as its being made out to be by the extreme people who are, like, petitioning for the season to be rewritten and filmed because of it, as though that is a realistic outcome to expect

[mike adamle]

I bet Jon Snow gains control of the dragon and has Bran warg it and try to kill Dany only to find out she doesn't die from fire. So Bran will warg into the Night King and kill her but be unable to Warg back out because of that mark on his arm and start the cycle all over again.

[Fignuts]

I’m not saying your wrong Mitch, I just don’t think those choices lead to good television in this case.

[mitchables]

i too have acknowledged that i don't think the choice necessarily makes for satisfying television

i feel like we're actually not really disagreeing at a fundamental level. i'm not defending the idea's execution or implementation so much as its base validity as a creative choice

[Tom Guycott]

While it is technically basely valid as a creative choice, it is generally going to be a poor creative choice in most circumstances. This one included. Just because something can be done doesn't mean it should be done, especially when the thing being done is just a giant middle finger to anyone who bothered to invest into the story.

Like, if the show circled back to pretty much where the series started, except with different people in the roles of those that started, with a statement that basically nothing changed from the status quo no matter how hard the powerful try to shift things and everything will begin again as it just happened with different faces and names, that could be a statement made. But simply having unfulfiling narrative for the sake of having unfulfiling narrative countermands the point of said fiction.

If nothing means nothing, what is the point of investment?

[GD]

Please sign the petition to see if HBO cares

http://chng.it/sDvGRjF2fL

[Innovator]

Quit your whinging.

People are freaking out because they aren't getting a disney ending.

[Seanny One Ball]

Well, believable isn’t always the right choice, and when you spend a number of seasons actually getting people to root for a sister fucker who tried to murder a child, it’s disappointing to see them throw it away just because that’s more realistic.

Likewise you’d have a point on Cersei if the whole show followed that formula. But this show has excelled at giving its villains satisfying comeuppance. To set that bar only to abandon it with the end of the series greatest villain is inconsistent.


This is an astute post

[Seanny One Ball]

Quit your whinging.

People are freaking out because they aren't getting a disney ending.


Not in here they're not. This isn't Twitter, people here are mostly annoyed at the pacing. The red herring build ups are merely a disappointment.

[GD]

Please sign the petition to see if HBO cares

http://chng.it/sDvGRjF2fL (https://youtu.be/y6120QOlsfU)

416,490 signatures as of now. Was featured on CNN.

[Fignuts]

Quit your whinging.

People are freaking out because they aren't getting a disney ending.

People generally aren't upset at what's happening, but rather how it's happening.

[XL]

That petition is ridiculous.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I don't know why people think wrestling isn't popular anymore. It seems like everybody has turned into wrestling fans with never being satisfied and whinging about everything.

[Frank Drebin]

Or the product people have invested time into because it was once enjoyable has turned into a disappointing slog.

[Tom Guycott]

Quit your whinging.

People are freaking out because they aren't getting a disney ending.

Not in here they're not. This isn't Twitter, people here are mostly annoyed at the pacing. The red herring build ups are merely a disappointment.

People generally aren't upset at what's happening, but rather how it's happening.

That's sort of the problem with just about anything anymore - be it a show like GoT, video games, specific movie genres, wrestling, etc.; the false perception all complaints are invalid and from a place of pettiness as opposed to the source material going to shit. The source material is never wrong, no matter how much it may contradict itself, be mired in scumfuckery, or misjudge the audience. It's your own fault you don't like it, not ours for producing a terrible product!

I've said elsewhere that just this particular plot point of Danerys glassing Kings Landing comes off less like the slow descent into the tyranny that she was looking to destroy, and more like she just decided to go off her meds that morning. The same woman who put up with her brother's bullshit up until she decided he was being too much of an asshole to keep around, suddenly figures she'll rain hellfire down on army and civilians indiscriminately even after it was repeatedly and explicitly stated that the bells meant Cerci's forces gave up. Even if it was something as subtle as "she didn't hear them because she was too busy attacking" would have made that easier to swallow. Instead, she just goes full genocide like a throwaway GTA run where she'll just redo that mission later from a previous save. And this was more or less just the straw in the classic camel's back analogy for a lot of folks. There is plenty wrong before and alongside this. And it is additionally paining since it is most likely not to culminate into something at least palatable in the final 50 minutes.

The fans not getting a "disney ending" is an excuse used to mask the fact that this has gone off the rails in short order. From what I've read, it's because the show runners don't give a shit for whatever reason.

Yes, the petition is fucking stupid. Especially if the commentary about them turning down a multiple season extension and taking significantly less pay to basically just be done with the show is true. After all, two to three more seasons could have served to take care of the narrative shortcomings that the current shoehorning has presented. Why would someone retcon an entire season that they half-assed in the first place? Makes no sense.

[Seanny One Ball]

I'll never get over Victarion Greyjoy not making it into the show. He's spectacular in the books.

[Heisenberg]

Regardless of the finale, it's been one hell of a ride with everyone. Going back and re-watching certain parts the show made me ok with what we are getting this year. Westeros and Essos are some crazy ass places to immerse yourself in.

[Fignuts]

I'll never get over Victarion Greyjoy not making it into the show. He's spectacular in the books.

Also needs more Strong Belwas

[Seanny One Ball]

Don't get me started on that crushing snub. I think they discounted him the moment they found out what he looked and dressed like.

[Frank Drebin]

Anyone ever watch Oz years ago? Ending kinda reminds me of that where you had some incredible TV and the end was just a mish-mash of "uhhhh....this guy dies! .....and this one! .....and this one. There. Great tv."

Oh well. Berg is right. Fun through season 6. Goes to show you just how great Breaking Bad was. Only show I can remember that was top notch from start to finish. Sticking the landing seems to be very hard to do in television.

[Seanny One Ball]

Oz was the tits until that last season. The white supremacist being given a black man's gums in a transplant by a maniacal black doctor was a real highlight.

Best use of Harold Perrineau in his entire career and the show that gave Lee Tergesen some status finally.

[Frank Drebin]

Never thought that at this point I would just want to get this over with rather than expecting the finale to be the feather in the cap of one of the best shows in modern times.

[Seanny One Ball]

I doubt it would make my top ten but the first four seasons are pretty untouchable.

[Ruien]

Really don't give a shit about you people in here bashing GoTs. Tonight is going to be such a wonderful and terrible night. One of the best shows in tv history will be gone forever :(

Hopefully they make some prequels or something.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

They already announced one.

[Seanny One Ball]

Dunc and Egg or what?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Something set in the Age of Heroes.

[Frank Drebin]

Really don't give a shit about you people in here bashing GoTs. Tonight is going to be such a wonderful and terrible night. One of the best shows in tv history will be gone forever :(

Hopefully they make some prequels or something.

They screwed the pooch these last 13 episodes.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Gotta really blame George RR Martin for this. Book 5 was eight years ago.

[Seanny One Ball]

The old swine will die before we get the rest

[mitchables]

so... it'll be king bran at the end of all this, right

can't see dany surviving long enough to take the throne properly

jon doesn't want it (HE DOESN'T WANT IT), so if dany doesn't shank him he will probably do what he always does and retreat to the wall or across the sea or otherwise run in literally any direction away from king's landing

doubt it'll be sansa, she seems pretty happy as lady of winterfell; equally dubious it'll go to arya

def won't be tyrion or sam or davos on the throne, though i imagine they'll all end up in the small council (if tyrion isn't killed for letting jaime go)

unlikely it'd go to gendry, so... yeah, i guess bran? king three eyed raven I

caaaaallleeddd iiiittttt

[Ruien]

Last episode was as perfect as you could get.

[Frank Drebin]

A solid end to a terrible season of an otherwise great show.

Pretty much played into your standard TV show tropes. Unfortunately, the whole reason the show became a cultural phenomenon was because that is exactly what it wasn't.

[Frank Drebin]

I wonder if Jon and Jessie Pinkman are both riding towards the same place.

[Frank Drebin]

Westworld season 3.

[McLegend]

Lol I loved everything up and to the Throne room.

Anything after that I didn’t like.

[McLegend]

Briene’s book scene was good though.

[Emperor Smeat]

A solid end to a terrible season of an otherwise great show.

Pretty much played into your standard TV show tropes. Unfortunately, the whole reason the show became a cultural phenomenon was because that is exactly what it wasn't.

Feel lucky I never bothered to get invested in this series since going by what I've read during this season, it would have been like Sons of Anarchy or Samurai Jack level of disappointment for me.

They really shouldn't have cut back on the number of episodes this season since they rushed too much stuff and caused a mess with the payoffs to stories that had years worth of build.

[Lock Jaw]

Was not expecting Dany to be killed off that easily or quickly into the episode..... I guess they had to have time for all the other stuff, though....

Chuckled at Sam suggesting democracy... for a minute thought Triple A's wish was gonna come true....

I wonder if the books are gonna end with Bran on the throne as well.... would be one way of paying off all those boring-ass Bran chapters.....

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I didn't really expect the UnSullied and rest of the Dothraki to just fuck off and leave after Dany died. Logic kinda suggests they'd want war of revenge? wtf?

[GD]

I had a hard time caring for the last episode. My roommate started from season 1, don't have the heart to tell him how shitty it gets.

[Seanny One Ball]

We're not mad, we're just disappointed... that she burned them all to smithereens.

[Seanny One Ball]

She tore them to cinders.

[Innovator]

SPOILER






















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[Seanny One Ball]

Did Ned come back

[Seanny One Ball]

Calm down Dave

[rez]

Overall..pretty good. It was rushed but meh.

Still upset no Howland Reed but Jon's claim was just one big tease so I guess he wasn't needed.

[Frank Drebin]

Guess it doesn't really matter who Jon Snow's parents were.

[Fignuts]

In the end, his lineage only served to muddle his relationship with Dany, and QUICKLY further her descent into tyranny.

[Frank Drebin]

Did it though? That was going to happen anyway. It was just a convenient plot device to help convince him she would try to kill him.

Side note....other than reasonably inferring that she would indeed try to kill Jon, she never showed outright signs of wanting to or thinking of doing so. Had to rush to that ending though.

[Frank Drebin]

Man....when they finally revealed that it was like "ZOMGFG!!!!" and.....then it barely mattered as it turns out.

[Frank Drebin]

Cersei didn't do shit. One of the best villains of all time and she just ran and got crushed. Said maybe 10 words all season.

Whatever.

[Triple A]

Heard that the creators got a contract to do a series of Star Wars movies "after Game of Thrones" so that's why they rushed ending the series?

Is that true...

Makes sense I guess since idk what other reason there is for them to rush the ending since it is insanely popular for HBO

Why couldn't they just get new writers etc... Was it some contract thing with HBO...

[Fignuts]

HBO wanted 10 seasons but D & D were like "nah bro, we can wrap everything up in 7."

They compromised on 8, even though the last two seasons were 6 ep.

[Frank Drebin]

Trying to imagine Breaking Bad ending in a similar style.

Hank finds out about Walt and goes to confront him right then and there. Jessie Pinkman shoots Hank. Next scene Walt is telling Saul how Marie reacted after hearing of Hank's death. Star wipe to Gus looking out a window, then falling down some stairs resulting in his death. Here come the Nazis! Jessi tries to give them meth to go away but they try to kidnap him. Walt shoots, killing the Nazis but dies in the crossfire. End.

[Triple A]

HBO wanted 10 seasons but D & D were like "nah bro, we can wrap everything up in 7."

They compromised on 8, even though the last two seasons were 6 ep.

Yeah I know that part but the Star Wars thing seems like a "scandal" 2 me....... Show runners purposefully ending the show way too quickly so they can "run out their contracts" and get Star Wars money...

[Tom Guycott]

Heard that the creators got a contract to do a series of Star Wars movies "after Game of Thrones" so that's why they rushed ending the series?

Is that true...

Makes sense I guess since idk what other reason there is for them to rush the ending since it is insanely popular for HBO

Why couldn't they just get new writers etc... Was it some contract thing with HBO...

HBO wanted 10 seasons but D & D were like "nah bro, we can wrap everything up in 7."

They compromised on 8, even though the last two seasons were 6 ep.

Yeah I know that part but the Star Wars thing seems like a "scandal" 2 me....... Show runners purposefully ending the show way too quickly so they can "run out their contracts" and get Star Wars money...

Why just get a mere boatload of money when you can get a metric fuckton? Even if the product is bad, the guaranteed return on Star Wars backed by The House of Mouse is probably "fuck you" levels of cash.

I only say that half sarcastically. Makes logical sense, but if it were me, I would be the one to finish out GoT at 10 and live the rest of my life as a comperable cult hero.


On the subject of the show ending: I feel like I did when Annaconda came out. I went to go see that movie alone when it actually went to theatres, and was disappointed it was nowhere near as good as it was hyped up to be (and even moreso that I wasn't able to snark at that shit with anyone MST3K style), but what perplexed me the most was the end.

In spite of the shit that went down and ***all the dead bodies, they remainder of the group just did the thing they were in the jungle to film in the first place like the plot never happened . Kind of an odd reaction, I thought, and it felt... empty. I felt that same emptiness here; resolution as quickly as possible. Two wars, a massacre, some deaths, bing, bang, boom, there's your freain' story, over here!

[DrA]

Use tags for the Annaconda spoilers please.

[XL]

Gonna presume DrA was joking there.

[XL]

What was your reading of the ending with Jon?

I’ve heard different interpretations; he was helping the Wildlings return home before then returning to the Wall was one of them.

My interpretation was that he ended up as King; King Beyond The Wall.

[Frank Drebin]

Meh. It was left open so he could show up in a spin off show if they could pull it off.

I'm done with all the theories and speculation. Show is over. Turn out the lights. There is no Prince who was promised.

[Lock Jaw]

Spoilers all over my Facebook pretty much since the day of the finale.... whereas before everyone was always v careful it seems to not post spoilers.....

[Seanny One Ball]

People are selfish.

[XL]

I’ve seen literally nothing spoilers wise on Facebook. Maybe you need to evaluate who’s in your timeline (send Grey Worm after them!)

[Ruien]

What was your reading of the ending with Jon?

I’ve heard different interpretations; he was helping the Wildlings return home before then returning to the Wall was one of them.

My interpretation was that he ended up as King; King Beyond The Wall.

The wall was a fake idea by the midget to get John with his friend and to live with the people he enjoyed the most.

[Destor]

My favorite part of the season was when they tried to convince me that the Lord of Light resurrected Dondorian 19 times so he could throw a sword at a random white walker

[Destor]

My 2nd favorite part was when the white walkers were turned into a side plot and that was treated like a chore that had to ve completed before the series ended.

[Destor]

My 3rd favorite part is im never going to have to suffer this fanfic ever again

[Frank Drebin]

My 2nd favorite part was when the white walkers were turned into a side plot and that was treated like a chore that had to ve completed before the series ended.

This.

[Fignuts]

I like how Grey Worm is executing soldiers in the street because they followed cersei.

But when Jon kills his queen, he's like "nah we goota take this guy prisoner."

And why would greyworm respect the custom of the night's watch? He's not from there, why would that be adequate justice to him?

And why did they even bother if all the unsullied were just going to fuck off to wherever the fuck anyhow?

What the fuck happened to the Dothraki?

[Destor]

Why do still have a wall exactly? Sounds like North winterfell to me

[Destor]

I liked how after the white walkers killed all the Dothraki they showed back up to sack Kings Landing

[Tom Guycott]

Gonna presume DrA was joking there.

I can confirm he was. And I took it as such even before the confirmation. Still humored the request for tagging a couple decades old film, because I thought it absurd enough to do after the "tag/no tag" pissing match.

[Tom Guycott]

Spoilers all over my Facebook pretty much since the day of the finale.... whereas before everyone was always v careful it seems to not post spoilers.....

People are selfish.

I’ve seen literally nothing spoilers wise on Facebook. Maybe you need to evaluate who’s in your timeline (send Grey Worm after them!)

You're lucky. I had no less than three points of the episode spoiled for me by memes literally hours after it aired, and I have watched every episode with a 24 hour delay because... reasons. And it (mostly) wasn't individuals I know, it was a lot of groups who do that shit, then complain about being banned when they come back a few days later.

I would have cared more about the spoils if this season were better written and I didn't have my expectations whittled away week after week. Given everything, it was resolved better than expected, but that doesn't neccessarily mean it was close to great.

[Tom Guycott]

My favorite part of the season was when they tried to convince me that the Lord of Light resurrected Dondorian 19 times so he could throw a sword at a random white walker

I like how an entire religion got distilled down to one broad with a necklace, and once she was gone, it was gone, like there weren't at least one more red priestess in the world...

I liked how after the white walkers killed all the Dothraki they showed back up to sack Kings Landing

... unless I'm wrong, and the other one that showed up in the series multirez'd offscreen at the expense of herself to bring them all back.

[Destor]

If im back imma tag everything thats a spoiler and yall can go back to crying about it. Same as usual.

[Tom Guycott]

It seems situational. Like this? This show is done. And people don't care so much because of the rushed writing atrocity. Meanwhile, if we got something like a season 3 of Luke Cage (yes, I just made myself sad saying that), I'd prob'ly tag the hell out of every response I made just in case anyone accidentally stumbled in the thread.

[Destor]

As.it pertains to the throne i dont overly care that they went the way they did but my issue is it was comoletely unearned and feels like rhe choice was based soley off of trying do what people least expected.


Which made it cpmpletely unfulfilling

[Destor]

It seems situational. Like this? This show is done. And people don't care so much because of the rushed writing atrocity. Meanwhile, if we got something like a season 3 of Luke Cage (yes, I just made myself sad saying that), I'd prob'ly tag the hell out of every response I made just in case anyone accidentally stumbled in the thread.
Theres spoiler in the thread title. Its free game tbf. But my personal rules for how i conduct myself IRL is if its still in theatres its off limits. 30 days after a season finale hits streaming for shows. After that its on you.

People consume things at their own pace these days. The gift that streaming has given us is its freed us from the tv guides demands on our time. We need to adjust as a community to what modern media consumption looks like.

Its not much to have a little courtesy.

I was walking out of avengers and everyone around me was talking about the movie but there were people in line we were walking by in horror as a sea of people gave away all the best bits.

Thinking of others takes 2 seconds but unfortunately it requires you to spend 2 seconds thinking about others.

[Tom Guycott]

I like how Grey Worm is executing soldiers in the street because they followed cersei.

But when Jon kills his queen, he's like "nah we goota take this guy prisoner."



That sounds like shit, but you have to sit and think about how that makes sense. Goes to what Tyrion said: "If you're set free, we start a war. If you're executed, we start a war." The action would determine which side initiates the war. A third war. In a row. That nobody really wants, but would have to fight anyway. Grey Worm is a loyal solider, but he isn't exactly stupid.

Again, rushed pacing, but it was actually one of the smarter things done. Jon was exiled again- back to where he started, except not voluntarily this time.

[Destor]

Grey Worms character wouldnt have cared. He'd had started a war over someone doing a play about killing Danny

[Destor]

Looked at what they did because they executed Missandei

[Destor]

No way the reaction to killing Danny would be LESS

[Destor]

Or maybe they were fresh out of children to burn alive

[Tom Guycott]

As.it pertains to the throne i dont overly care that they went the way they did but my issue is it was comoletely unearned and feels like rhe choice was based soley off of trying do what people least expected.


Which made it cpmpletely unfulfilling

Yeah, swerve for the sake of swerving. Two of the three people who "don't want it" are in charge. And the third is still kinda king anyway.

With the "Star Wars" thing, though, it seemed kinda ironic that Dany's speech seemed a lot like the First Order scene in Force Awakened, even down to the giant House Targaryen banner behind her. Granted, a dragon would have been slower than a neo-death star, but same diff.

[Destor]

If written consistently Grey Worm should have marched on Winterfell and face fucked Sansa to death with a bag of lopped off Unsullied baby dicks

[Tom Guycott]

Grey Worms character wouldnt have cared. He'd had started a war over someone doing a play about killing Danny

I don't entirely disagree that's where he started, but I don't think that's where he ended up. There is half handled time jumping here, and shit left out, and way too many inferences that need to be drawn. Maybe you're right, but I don't think so. He was loyal to his queen, but now he doesn't have a queen. The rest of the Unsullied are pretty much looking to him. To me, it seems that as reactionary as he wants to be, he has to weigh the cost now in a way he didn't before.

Yet another problem of rushed pacing. There is like 2 seasons worth of shit going down in the last 3 episodes. There shouldn't be so much "room for interpretation" because of shit writing.

[Frank Drebin]

Why do still have a wall exactly? Sounds like North winterfell to me

Also, why did a Jon and the group go through the gate in the wall? Why didn't they go through the part the white walkers destroyed? Did they rebuild that monstrosity in a fucking week?

[Destor]

You know nothing. Wildlings are excellent stone masons.

[Seanny One Ball]

Thanks for all the wanks, GoT :y:

[wwe2222]

Also, why did a Jon and the group go through the gate in the wall? Why didn't they go through the part the white walkers destroyed? Did they rebuild that monstrosity in a fucking week?

The wall came down at Eastwatch not Castle Black.

[Frank Drebin]

I thought everyone had teleporting powers since season 7.

[Frank Drebin]

So there's no point in a night's watch if anyone can just go through a hole in the wall somewhere else.

#sogotend

[Seanny One Ball]

Well it's a fucking long wall but indeed, not as useful once there's a great rent in it.

[Innovator]

Also they're no Others anymore and no Wildings left that aren't with John and Tormund

[Destor]

The Giants are all dead too

[Innovator]

And the rumored ice spiders

[Seanny One Ball]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck7CHa7WgAEZNds.jpg

[Innovator]

Pretty sure you don't have to spoil tag Hold the Door

[Seanny One Ball]

I prefer pics in spoilers, saves space.

[Seanny One Ball]

https://pics.me.me/theon-greyjoy-his-best-his-wurst-my-name-is-theon-38063224.png

[mike adamle]

His name is Reek

[Frank Drebin]

Also they're no Others anymore and no Wildings left that aren't with John and Tormund

The Nights Watch is like the annoying kid you give an unplugged controller to just to get them to shut up and let them think they're playing or doing something.

[Frank Drebin]

And the rumored ice spiders

Can't wait for the spin off show where they tease giant ice spiders for 6 seasons, then have them in one throwaway episode in the middle of a season.

[Tom Guycott]

Also, why did a Jon and the group go through the gate in the wall? Why didn't they go through the part the white walkers destroyed? Did they rebuild that monstrosity in a fucking week?

The wall came down at Eastwatch not Castle Black.

Besides, once again, there are time lapses they clearly aren't addressing. With the constantly referenced shit pacing, the story appears to happen in the span of like two days. The only hint of time passing is Jon's beard going from well groomed to bushier and unkempt. It was a better signifyer when Tyrion was in jail/smuggled to Essos, as he went from clean shaven to hermit in however long all that journey from Joffrey's death to meeting Danerys took. Since he now looks like that all the time, there's no way to tell how long they kept him. Two days? Two months?

All that to say this: wall contruction could have been underway. You don't just go stomping through the busy zone like an asshole when you can just use a door. Also, assuming how they framed the final shots, all of this is happening in parallel. The Wildfolk might have actually helped rebuild in exchange for help getting resettled in their lands. Who knows? They could have been there for months before heading out, but the show made it look like he made it from prison to the wilds in like an hour.

As for where the wall came down, it's safe to assume the writers forgot that part, so we can assume the hole moved to Castle Black.

[Tom Guycott]

Also funny is all the recent focus on Grey Worm's... uh, worm. Guess the Red Woman brought "this one" back for a reason, too. That reason being to at least get some head from Missandei before she lost hers.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Finished season 8, yesterday.

Episode 3 was the best of the bunch; it left me physically exhausted once it was finished. But it does not make up for what has already been said in the thread: rushed character development, specifically Daenerys' change to become the mad queen; odd pacing, etc.

I think ultimately GoT falls under the same category as the "reimagined" Battlestar Galactica series: great journey; shitty ending.

[Lock Jaw]

Latest George R.R. Martin news:

"Martin has teamed with the entertainment company Meow Wolf to develop new psychedelic theme park attractions. In his role as Chief World Builder, Martin will craft the story and world behind the theme parks."


He's never gonna finish these books now

[Frank Drebin]

I like how the build up for his new books is just like the build up the TV show had for the White Walkers.

[XL]

He’s probably got the books written. Or at least he did until he saw the reaction to the TV show, now he just needs to do a quick rewrite. Played it very well.

[Seanny One Ball]

You think the reason he has taken decades to get this far and still not finish is that somehow he's just waiting atop a pile of finished manuscripts that just need a "quick rewrite"?

[XL]

Yes.

[XL]

D&D have taken all the vitriol for the shit ending, GRRM writes a totally different ending, gets called a genius.

[Seanny One Ball]

He seems like a guy who sits surrounded by great tomes of handwritten mythology who has no idea how to edit it into a suitable state for sequel publication.

I doubt he is anywhere near his desired conclusion. The show ending may give him more time but I think he's the biggest GOT fan around and he has a weird, massive imagination and a real problem with procrastinating from specific tasks...like finishing Winds of Winter.

[Frank Drebin]

The Tale of Scroty McBoogerballs.

[Frank Drebin]

How would people feel if he just had JK Rowling finish it?

[Lock Jaw]

Wonder which characters were secretly GAY

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Hodor.

[GD]

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[Seanny One Ball]

Has anyone made the Clegane brothers/Undertaker &a Kane comparison yet? I feel like I just realised this but may have actually heard it before or that it's common knowledge.