Game of Thrones - SPOILERS INSIDE

[The Destroyer]

Was great to see it back. Although I really had no idea what was going on with the new characters (the Baratheons?), but I'm sure all the blanks will be filled in.

[VSG]

Read the books, Baird.

[Buzzkill]

Was great to see it back. Although I really had no idea what was going on with the new characters (the Baratheons?), but I'm sure all the blanks will be filled in.

They each think they have the right to the throne. Stannis is the true heir (dude with the red priestess) and Renly is the youngest who we saw last season (who had the gay affair)

[Buzzkill]

Episode 2 leaked btw...

[VSG]

where?

[The Destroyer]

Read the books, Baird.
Nah I'm not going to read them until I've seen it on TV. I don't want to know what's coming.

[Buzzkill]

where?

Any torrent site on earth

[VSG]

I can't use torrents with my university net :'(

Thanks for the info about it being out though, will look for it on Rapidshare or something.

[VSG]

Well nevermind, got a stream.

[Buzzkill]

After watching the second ep, it's pretty clear that they are gonna stray pretty far from the books to format it more like a TV show than the first season. In Season 1 they definitely kept that novel-esque feel to it, but I think the story is too massive in the second book to really take the same approach and fit it into 10 episodes (they would need at least 15 episodes to come close to doing the book justice).

Not that this is necessarily a bad thing...TV is it's own medium after all. And for the most part I like some of the stuff they've added in.

[VSG]

Ya I agree, I think it is a good direction they are taking as well.

Loved Littlefinger showing his mean side to the prostitute about being happy

[Gonzo]

They each think they have the right to the throne. Stannis is the true heir (dude with the red priestess) and Renly is the youngest who we saw last season (who had the gay affair)

I just buckled and watched the first season. I loved the first book and as strange as it may sound I didn't want the show to ruin my conceptions of the characters. They did a solid job though. Anyways...

Perhaps I didn't read closely enough or it was just thrown in, I never picked up on the fact while reading the first novel that Renly was gay or that the Knight of Flowers was gay.

[Buzzkill]

They hint at it pretty strongly, especially in the second book. Stuff like the Rainbow Guard and how he is always dressed in the nicest clothes and would rather go shopping than fight etc

[G]

Am I missing something, or was last night's ending about the guy on the horse now thinking the guy they came for is now dead? I thought it was pretty "meh".

[Requiem]

You are not missing anything. That is what happened.

They are doing some stuff out of order though in the show. In the books, they escaped the first assault on the group. Fire happened. Arya gives the axe to the criminals in the cage. Gendry, Arya, Hot Pie (fat kid) and Lommy (the kid who got stabbed in the throat), escape. Lommy's leg was injured like in the show, and slows them down a bit. In the books, Gendry doesn't confront Arya about being a girl until this point, while they're out on watch one day. But eventually, they are captured by soldiers under the command of Gregor Clegane (The Mountain). In the books, it is at this point that Raff the Sweetling stabs Lommy in the throat with a spear after finding that they'll have to carry him as he can't walk.

I believe the guy in charge of the group that attacked them was Ser Amory Lorch, a knight who is also a bannerman of House Lannister.

So basically, they just combined the two events. Not a big deal, as this stuff all happened pretty close to each other. In the books there was just a bit of character development between the two events. But yeah, that bit with the helmet and Lommy didn't happen in the books IIRC, so it was added to give closure to the situation I think.

[The Destroyer]

A Clash of Kings is longer than the first book isn't it? Bound to have to try to condense things down a little.

[VSG]

I can't wait to see how Harrenhal looks.

[Requiem]

A Clash of Kings is longer than the first book isn't it? Bound to have to try to condense things down a little.

Ya. Figured they would. However, I'm disappointed they didn't just add more episodes. Trying to cram a longer book into the same amount of episodes is just :(

Still, have read they will split book 3 into 2 seasons which is a big :D because if they had done that in 1 season of 10 episodes I might have not even watched.

[G]

Will someone please explain to me what just crawled out of that lady.

So angry right now. This happens and I'm like it's really getting good, then the stupid credits roll and I'm thinking there is no way it's been an hour already. :(

[Requiem]

You'll see next episode prolly. Don't want to ruin anything as I already know.

One of the few times they really touch on 'magic' in the series. All usually involving R'hllor, the 'lord of light'.

Read some review that was complaining about how many new characters we're introduced to suddenly, and yeah there are a lot of new ones, but I love a lot of them.

Brienne of Tarth is a pretty good character. Davos the Onion Knight is a great character too. Really enjoyed his parts in the books.

[VSG]

God I love Tyrion so much.

[4 knuckles up]

Joffrey is a little cunt!

[Buzzkill]

Kinda bummed they didn't use more subtlety with the shadow creature. Thought they could have made it crazy/scary without making it look ridiculous.

[VSG]

To be fair I thought they would go like the book and reveal it looked like Stannis. They still might, but I think they will skip over the actual murder scene.

Brienne was cast very well in my opinion. I can totally see her playing Brienne The Beauty.

Also Harrenhal did not disappoint :y:

[Corporate CockSnogger]

As someone who hasn't read the books I'll agree that there does seem to be a lot of new characters coming in thick and fast, a lot of whom seem to look pretty similar and whose names are mentioned once in passing and then never again. I can probably only name about 40% of the cast, if that.

I'm still enjoying the shit out of it, but there are times when I don't really have a clue what's going on and I can see a lot of people turning off this season. Then again it could just be me not really paying much attention. Everywhere I read though it almost seems as though you need to have read the books to fully comprehend what's going on.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

They should probably just have the entire series centered around Bronn.

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[Triple Naitch]

Finally caught up on the whole series. Love it but, like Iginfest say, not entirely sure I get all of it.

[Requiem]

Ask away, and I will be glad to explain anything I can that you don't understand, without giving spoilers.

Main thing about this season is just the amount of characters that get added to it. With everyone splitting up, there's just so many things going on around the world.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Also not enough of Daenerys getting banged from behind.

[Brigstocke]

Bronn 'Theres no cure for being a cunt' excellent.

[The Destroyer]

Finally started reading the first book. Feels like I know a lot more about the historical events behind Westeros as a result. :y:

[Triple Naitch]

Ask away, and I will be glad to explain anything I can that you don't understand, without giving spoilers.

Main thing about this season is just the amount of characters that get added to it. With everyone splitting up, there's just so many things going on around the world.

I'm just confused as to where each group is traveling to and why.

[Triple Naitch]

Also not enough of Daenerys getting banged from behind.

Need more of that slave bird teaching her how to fuck.

[VSG]

I'm just confused as to where each group is traveling to and why.

Let me try:

1) Rob Stark and his northerners are heading down south to beat the lannisters and depose of Joffrey as King. He has also gained support from the Freys and the Tullys making him King in the North and King of the Trident.

2) Renly Baratheon has the stormlords and highgarden in support for his quest to be King, pretty much moving slowly to gather more men and also because Renly is a prick and needs entertainment each day

3) Stannis Baratheon has claim over Renly (being the elder brother) if Joffrey is indeed the incestuous son of Jaime and Cersei but he is a hard, bitter man with no sense of politics and could not win over the supporters of Renly. He wants manpower before marching to King's Landing

4) Daenerys and her Khos are in the continent of Essos, travelling away from the Dothraki Sea to escape from the other new Khals, and also to survive and gain support to get back to Westeros and reclaim her throne

5) The Greyjoys are using the fact that the north is more or less depleted of warriors to capture Moat Cailin and cut off Rob's army from the north. Then they can slowly capture other castles in the north. But Theon has more ambitious plans and wants to take over Winterfell
6) Yonnen is taking deserters, criminals, bastards and Arya Stark to the Wall up North to make them part of the Night's Watch and deliver Arya safely to Jon Snow and eventually to her mother.

7) A band of knights and soldiers led by Beric Dondarrion and Thoros of Myr were sent by Ned Stark to capture Jaime Lannister when Ned was still Hand of the King. Now they are outlaws and fighting Lannisters and Starks all alike in the name of Robert Baratheon. They are located near the Trident area.

8) Lord Commander Mormont has taken over 300 of the Nights Watch to find out the truth behind rumours that Mance Ryder, self proclaimed King-Beyond-The-Wall has been gathering a fucking lot of wildlings and what not for an assault on the Wall and the rest of Westeros. But there are also other entities out there known simply as the Others that can reanimate the dead.

[VSG]

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[Miotch]

9) Dany walks the desert and is boring

[The Destroyer]

Nothing's boring when dragons are involved.

[Krimzon7]

I miss seeing dany get Khal fucked

[CSL]

still blows my mind that & Jerome is starring in a hit international TV show in 2012

[Corporate CockSnogger]

And as a humorous badass nonetheless.

[CSL]

jesus, didn't even know :o Robson will be turning up as a well-spoken 8ft giant warrior next

[BigDaddyCool]

I think Little Finger is the worst villain in the stories.

[VSG]

I like him a lot. No way he is worse than, say, Joffrey.

[Triple Naitch]

Joffrey is such a heel. I for real hate him.

[The Destroyer]

I think Little Finger is the worst villain in the stories.
He does seem like a bit of a scumbag. Bet he's going to end up trying to get thingy Tyrell (Renly's widow) married off to Joffrey.

Joffrey's definitely worse than him though.

[Requiem]

Joffrey is a cunt. It's easy to loathe him. He is literally a psychopath in the vein of the mad king. He would probably go down as FAR worse than the mad king if he actually lived that long. Can't wait till karma kicks him in the nuts. Littlefinger is an asshole. He's good at what he does, but my god do I hate him as a person. Conniving bastard who only cares about himself. At least Varys seems to be a 'good' person and has good reasons for the things he does. He's not simply looking out for #1.

Also, I think Cersei is a way more 'vile' person than Littlefinger. She is an entirely terrible person with zero morals.

[VSG]

I have to disagree about Cersei. In the end, she did all for her children and she was once good before The Mad King went against his promise and refused Cersei for Rhaegar and she ended p with Robert Baratheon who never really loved her.

[VSG]

Also, Littlefinger cares a whole lot for the Tullys and their children. You know what I mean.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I like Littlefinger. He's one of the guys I can name.

[Requiem]

Cersei uses totally dishonest ways to get things for her family that they didn't deserve in the first place though. She is not a good person by any means. She has zero morals, and will lie or cheat her way to the top by any means necessary. She doesn't care if something is wrong, as long as it benefits her family.

I mean, there's providing for your family, doing what's necessary for their safety.. and then there's just plain manipulating people who are just trying to do good things, so that your family can get things they don't deserve. Things that her false sense of entitlement made her feel she deserved.

She really has no redeeming qualities. Had 3 children with her brother, plotted to murder Robert Baratheon (and essentially did). All because she was mad that she had to marry him, and that he still loved a woman who was dead. She allowed herself to be overcome by hatred and spite. She is a petty woman, who thinks money can solve anything and that being honorable is a weakness. She is a vile person.

[Triple Naitch]

Don't forget she also fucks her cousin.

[Requiem]

Yeah, and that. She can't even be faithful to the man she supposedly loves.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

You have to see Cersei's actions in the context of her being born a woman. She can't intimidate people directly so she has to use her fanny to control them. She is obviously manipulative but that is the hand that is dealt to her as a woman. She often makes reference to this in the books, that she should have been born a man. She is trying to secure her family's strength, same as pretty much all the characters of the book are doing. Plenty of references are made in the book to Robert beating her as well, which she had to hide from Jaime so as he wouldn't kill Robert, so she put up with a lot from him.

[Requiem]

Of course it's all in the context of the world they live in. Doesn't really excuse that she had plenty of opportunity to be a decent person. It still stands to reason that the Lannisters are a bunch of self-entitled pricks who think their money equates to them being better than everyone. Tywin ordered the murder of the Targaryen children, sacked the city when they took it, and some of the things he has done and later does to Tyrion are despicable. He does nothing in the interest of the people he wishes to rule. It's a family of greed and self-interest. The ONLY redeeming quality they have is some twisted sense of loyalty to anyone named Lannister. Even then, if something can benefit them more than the name is worth, they'll throw them under a bus.

It's nice that Tyrion and later Jaime, both see the family for how it really is. Tyrion for obvious reasons such as being the target of his father's spite and hatred for so long. For Jaime to come around like he does, was an incredible development in his character I thought. It's really easy to hate him at first, but he is actually a really admirable character, because even coming from the family he does, and knowing what's expected of him, he realizes he can do better than that and can be a better person. Really interested to see what becomes of him when the series continues/finishes.

Daenyris and the Starks are possibly the only people actually doing for good and just reasons. Stannis, while technically the rightful king, is going about it in a completely fucked up way by killing his brother and letting himself essentially be ruled by Melisandre.

Rob at least doesn't care about the Iron Throne, he just wants justice for his father being murdered. He wants the north to be their own entity and be outside the rule of the Iron Throne after seeing all the trouble and pointless hardship it creates.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

You have to see Cersei's actions in the context of her being born a woman. She can't intimidate people directly so she has to use her fanny to control them. She is obviously manipulative but that is the hand that is dealt to her as a woman. She often makes reference to this in the books, that she should have been born a man. She is trying to secure her family's strength, same as pretty much all the characters of the book are doing. Plenty of references are made in the book to Robert beating her as well, which she had to hide from Jaime so as he wouldn't kill Robert, so she put up with a lot from him.

100 per cent correct.

[MVP]

Flying through the first book right now. It's hard to put down.

[The Destroyer]

Yeah really. I started reading it like two weeks ago and I just burned through it.

Trying to fight the urge to get A Clash of Kings until Season 2 is finished now.

[Miotch]

Why fight the urge? I'd give it a read.

[The Destroyer]

I'd rather not. I plan to watch first, then read.

[Miotch]

I think you'll get more enjoyment out of the books and equal enjoyment out of the show if you read them first.

I'm nearly done with the 5th book.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

The second season of this is definitely not as enjoyable as the first for me. Probably the lack of Sean Bean :(

[Requiem]

I think you'll get more enjoyment out of the books and equal enjoyment out of the show if you read them first.

I'm nearly done with the 5th book.

Ya. I don't like that they have changed certain things. Some changes seem 'pointless'. But I still enjoy it because I know what SHOULD be happening at certain times when it isn't the same because I have read the books. Still, it is following really close. The books do suspense and character development so much better than any TV show could ever do. I enjoy the show in a 'different way' than the books, almost just as much, but the books just give a whole different spin on everything.

I don't regret reading the books before the show at all. The main reason is for the suspense/character development. Feel like I know the characters way better from reading the books than I would have if I just watched the show. For instance, the Theon Greyjoy/Winterfell thing had way more impact in the books. As things were unfolding with him, I was fucking pissed. Legit hated him because of the way the book did things. Was a really shocking and devious thing.

Dunno if it's cause I already knew it was gonna happen or what, but the show just didn't do it in a way that really made me loathe him at that deep of a level as in the books. Theon in the books had more of a 'presence' than the guy who plays him in the show maybe. You get to know more of his background and the Greyjoys in general, which maybe makes it easier to hate him that much in the books. You start to feel pity for him, and even like him as a character, and then he pulls a swerve and you just fucking hate him. Dunno.

Future spoilers -
Hope they keep the suspense up with the whole 'killing Bran/Ricken' thing. With other people having died, I didn't know what was going to happen to them. Just heard the 'news' across the continent that they had been killed and their heads were on spikes outside the wall, so I was like FUCK NO. Then later when you find out they pulled a fast one, was all YESSSSSS.

You're gonna have to wait like 7 years if you don't just read them now. Kinda doing yourself a disservice by waiting. Best to read them while it's still fresh in your mind, as they are really incredible books. The show is not bad by any means. Quite the opposite. But the books are just that much better than the show, that you would benefit from knowing some of the more intricate details and characters to be able to apply that to things happening in the show.

[Requiem]

On another note, Arya -

Can't fucking wait to see how Arya becomes one of the Faceless Men. She is one of my favorite characters because of just how much shit she goes through. She goes through more hardship than virtually any other character I think, and it's made worse because she's so young IMO. She didn't want to be a lady, and she got her wish. But it turned out to be far different than she imagined it probably. Life is fucking rough.

Also, hope the show doesn't shy away from the whole mysticism/magic bit with Beric Dondarrion. They probably won't be able to properly delve into the details as much, but dying 7 times is a pretty major plot point in his character.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Of course it's all in the context of the world they live in. Doesn't really excuse that she had plenty of opportunity to be a decent person. It still stands to reason that the Lannisters are a bunch of self-entitled pricks who think their money equates to them being better than everyone. Tywin ordered the murder of the Targaryen children, sacked the city when they took it, and some of the things he has done and later does to Tyrion are despicable. He does nothing in the interest of the people he wishes to rule. It's a family of greed and self-interest. The ONLY redeeming quality they have is some twisted sense of loyalty to anyone named Lannister. Even then, if something can benefit them more than the name is worth, they'll throw them under a bus.

It's nice that Tyrion and later Jaime, both see the family for how it really is. Tyrion for obvious reasons such as being the target of his father's spite and hatred for so long. For Jaime to come around like he does, was an incredible development in his character I thought. It's really easy to hate him at first, but he is actually a really admirable character, because even coming from the family he does, and knowing what's expected of him, he realizes he can do better than that and can be a better person. Really interested to see what becomes of him when the series continues/finishes.

Daenyris and the Starks are possibly the only people actually doing for good and just reasons. Stannis, while technically the rightful king, is going about it in a completely fucked up way by killing his brother and letting himself essentially be ruled by Melisandre.

Rob at least doesn't care about the Iron Throne, he just wants justice for his father being murdered. He wants the north to be their own entity and be outside the rule of the Iron Throne after seeing all the trouble and pointless hardship it creates.

Cersei is a very bitter character but with good reason. This is hardly a spoiler since it's right at the start of the book, but it's Jaime who pushed Bran out of the window. Cersei didn't want that to happen, so she's not a pointlessly cruel person. The storyline for Cersei is basically a long tale of being fucked over simply for being a woman, which explains why she is so bitter by the time we get to A Feast For Crows (which I'm near the end of now). There's the fact she was told she would be promised to Rhaegar, who everyone loved, but ended up getting married to Robert. She was separated from Jaime at a young age (because they were boning each other obviously).

When she does marry Robert, she is happy for all of a day when he drunkenly refers to her by a dead girl's name on their wedding night. It also emerges that Robert not only beat her from time to time, but regularly raped her when drunk. She loves her kids and is devastated when Myrcella is taken away and when Joffery dies and sees Tyrion as a threat to her children. This is all in addition to what I discussed before, with her being a woman and thus forced to use cunning rather than brutality. She's also well aware that whoever takes the throne will slaughter her family, as Robert had the Targaraeyn offspring killed when he gained power.

In hindsight as the story progresses it's obvious why she is so bitter. She's an interesting character.

The main genuinely evil characters that I can see would be The Mountain and his men, plus Vargo Hoat and the Brave Companions. Lord Frey, Roose Bolton and Bolton's Bastard are pretty grim too I suppose, given how they cement their power. Tywin does some pretty awful things but he also manages to end or avoid war by doing so, so I guess he's pragmatic in many ways, if ruthless. As nice a guy as Robb is, he completely fucks over everyone who followed him into the war.

In regards to ruling the kingdoms for the benefit of the citizens, it's mentioned a fair few times that the lives of the ordinary people don't really change no matter who is king. They pretty much have a shit time of it regardless, getting murdered and raped.

[VSG]

The Boltons are easily the worst out there. I mean come on:

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[VSG]

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[The Destroyer]

Nice how while Cersei came across as less of an evil bitch, Theon went well and truly off the deep end into become an absolute monster.

[VSG]

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Well shit!

[VSG]

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[Corporate CockSnogger]

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To make up for the lack of Bronn this week.

[Bazooka]

Nice how while Cersei came across as less of an evil bitch, Theon went well and truly off the deep end into become an absolute monster.

I can't stand Theon, to me, he's worse than Joeffry.

I really like how Stannis is comming across, a no nonsense combatant. He has a very dry, though dark sense of humour, such as when Davos claims that the other lords won't be happy with him leading the fleet, and Stannis responds, "Most of those lords should be lucky I don't hang them for treason".

[4 knuckles up]

Bronn was a fucking pimp this week! :D

[Requiem]

That episode was nuts. Didn't expect them to spend an entire episode on the battle, so that was great.

[Triple Naitch]

Fucking great episode.

[Requiem]

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[VSG]

25 minutes into this episode and I love it already. The guy playing Davos earned his money here.

Also, :heart: Bronn and Tyrion as always.

[VSG]

"Prepare to Land"

"Your grace, we are too far. Their archers.. Hundreds will die!"

"Thousands"

lol :'(

[VSG]

Ridiculous episode that reminded me a lot of the final battle from The Two Towers. I really liked how they handled Cersei's character while inside the Red Keep as well as Sandor's fright of fire.

[The Destroyer]

That was bloody awesome.

Impressed with what they managed to do with the battle on a TV budget. Would have sworn Stannis would have the throne in the bag, but guess not.

[Bazooka]

best one yet.

best t.v. show battle scene that I've seen.

I didn't know who I wanted to win the battle! I was hoping that Rob would be the one who rode in, not Tywin.

[Immortal Moose]

One of the best episodes so far, I was on the edge of my seat the entire time.

[MVP]

The Hound just made my top 5 characters list in the series.

[Lock Jaw]

Completely caught up with this series now. That last episode was insane. Finally got to see a battle. Felt kind of "gypped" when in the first season they just did a "fade to the end of a battle" thing.

I have enjoyed it so much that I went out and purchased the first novel. Not that far in it yet.

One thing I don't understand about this series....




HOW IS "NED" SHORT FOR "EDDARD"?! WHERE DOES THE "N" COME FROM?!

[Requiem]

Pretty sure Ned is an abbreviation of the name Edward, and since Eddard is based on Edward, seeing as George RR Martin likes to slightly alter real words, he probably just kept it.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Same way Ted is short for Edward. Or Dick for Richard. It's just a thing that happened somewhere along the line.

[Taker it Easy]

The last episode delivered on every level. Seems like a perfect build up through the entire season for that episode.

[Lock Jaw]

Since when is "Ted" or "Ned" short for "Edward"?!

Re-questioning my whole existence right now.

[Taker it Easy]

Since when is "Ted" or "Ned" short for "Edward"?!

Re-questioning my whole existence right now.

Well, for two seasons I have heard it as Neddard and am pretty sure King Robert showed his name in writing and it was Neddard. I've assumed it is a different world with different names.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Nah he's Eddard in the show as well.

[Taker it Easy]

Wow. No idea how Ned comes from Eddard.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, I thought he said "Neddard" at first too, because of the whole "Ned" thing. Was probably tricking myself into hearing "Neddard" to justify "Ned".

Also, for the first few episodes, legit thought it was "Karl" Drogo

[St. Jimmy]

Still really appreciating the National's recording of the Rains of Castamere.

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[Krimzon7]

Still really appreciating the National's recording of the Rains of Castamere.

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What a creepy, surreal ending to the show. I actually was compelled to watch the credits when I heard this. Totally batshit creepy. Especially since we find ourselve rooting for the FUCKING LANNISTERS

[VSG]

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[Requiem]

Damn, want!

[The Destroyer]

Can't stop listening to Rains of Castamere. :'(

[VSG]

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Fuck me

[The Destroyer]

I've only just realised it was what Bronn and co were singing as well.

[Requiem]

Ok, so some theories that have been floating around. Spoiler because of, well, spoilers.

The main theory I've heard is that Jon Snow is the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark. A result of when she was taken.

Now, at first I thought ehhhh maybe. However it wouldn't be unheard of for the hair color to come out different. Think about it. Targaryens always have blonde children, but they also marry their siblings. Dany and Viserys were the result of a sibling marriage. The Baratheon's are also a line from Aegon V and an 'unknown Baratheon'.

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Template:Targaryen_tree_now

So if all Targaryens are supposed to have had fair colored hair, this could be a result of always marrying siblings. The Baratheon's had different color hair. Their genes almost always result in black hair. So what's to say Rhaegar and Lyanna wouldn't have had a dark haired child? Rhaegar has a child with a woman who isn't a Targaryen, and her gene takes over, resulting in Jon's black hair.

It's also said the dragon has three heads. We know of Dany, Aegon (the youngest, traveling with the Gold Company). Who is the third? And who better to ride a dragon, than a skinwalker named Jon Snow? (Or Jon Targaryen, as it were).

At the end of the last book, Jon Snow was stabbed. However, we were also shown how a skinwalker was trapped in his animal. So, perhaps Jon travels into Ghost's body (aptly named Wolf, ne?). Melisandre, could then bring him back to life. We've seen what R'hllor can do with people. Beric and Catlyn for instance.

In the dungeon with Eddard Stark, it was mentioned in the books (dont remember if it did in the show) that there was so much he wished he could tell Jon. He felt a sense of shame about him. And it's never revealed who his mother is. Eddard took that to his grave.

So, could we be in for a surprise? Could Jon Targaryen end up as King of Westeros with Daenerys as his Queen?

[El Capitano Gatisto]

No because he's a bastard. It does make a little bit of sense though we know Ned has been set against Robert killing all the Targaryen offspring, so it would be natural that he may claim Rhaegar and Lyanna's bastard as his own to stop the child being murdered by Robert. Jon Snow's resemblance to Ned and "Northern" looks are emphasised early on, as he and Arya are the only children who look like true Starks. Ned's other kids look more Tully than Stark. Barriston Selmy alludes to it all, however, and also gives support to the idea that on Snow is the bastard of Ashara Dayne and Ned.

[VSG]

I am with ECG on this one. Most of the Stark kids have shown a connection with their respective direwolves. The common thing is they all had Ned Stark as father. Honestly I would be a bit pissed if Jon Snow turned out to be Targaryen.

[Requiem]

So he's a bastard. So? Cersei was scared shitless of Robert's bastards because she was afraid one of them might seek a claim to the throne one day. Being a bastard means very little except that people typically take a lot of shit for being one. The author has also made a somewhat big deal out of Gendry, Robert's last male bastard, still being alive. Her own children are technically bastards as well. People that don't even have a claim to the throne can come in and claim it. That's what Robert did. He took it from the Targaryens. Being King in Westeros isn't always some noble birthright that was passed down to someone. However, if Jon Snow WAS Rhaegar's son, then he would have almost the same claim to the throne as Aegon does, them being half brothers. Aegon being first of course.

Lyanna was Eddard's sister. She is a Stark. With the whole 'other blood overriding Targaryen blood' as was proved by the Baratheon line, Lyanna Stark's dominant genes passing on to Jon Snow would certainly give him a resemblance to the Stark family. I believe the 'warg' ability to be a Stark trait that has simply manifested itself in this generation of Starks. There's no reason to believe it would be unique to Ned Stark. Arya had dreams, we know Brann is a warg. Jon saw from the eyes of his wolf that night he came across the wildlings I believe. Why does it have to be only from Ned Stark? The Starks are descended from a long line of Northerners. It's very likely that there were wargs in the family in the past.

Further, why even make a big deal out of not knowing who Jon's mother is if she is just some wildling woman? Why the big secret (in the writing, not necessarily in the world of the characters) It's alluded to because that's the story everyone there knows. Of course Ned isn't going to tell someone who Jon's real parents are. Even Ned, when talking with Robert, never admits the name of the woman. He deflected and changed the subject and they moved on and never came back to it. The more I think about it, the more it begins to make sense.

Ned Stark was willing to die for his honor. Why would a man who is willing to die for honor, cheat on his wife and have a child with another woman, and then even bring him back to parade his broken honor around Winterfell for the next 15 years?

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Of course it matters that he is a bastard. Aegon takes precedence because he is trueborn, Dany would also be ahead of Jon if such a scenario is true. The importance of Gendry was as evidence that Robert's actual offspring have his features and that the Lannister offspring are undeniably Lannisters. It's actually a flakey sort of evidence but it works in the logic of the story. The reason Robert's bastards are being murdered is not because they have any claim to the throne whatsoever, it's because they are evidence of Cersei and Jaime's incest. Cersei is only afraid of being usurped by a younger, more beautiful queen, who she believes to be Margary Tyrell but is more likely to be Dany.

Stannis retained one of Robert's bastards so he could either present him as evidence or burn him for having King's blood, however, Stannis is next in line and after Stannis is his daughter, now that Renly is dead. A bastard has no claim to his father's inheritance unless he is legitimised by Royal decree, as Bolton's bastard is. He is literally the only bastard in the book who stands to inherit his father's power and is raised to lordship. Jon Snow is offered the chance by Stannis but refuses it.

The reason Ned may keep Jon's mother's identity a secret is possibly because he is Rhaegar and Lyanna's bastard for the reasons I discussed above (and you've strangely taken as an argument against the theory), however, equally it could be to protect the name of Ashara Dayne (not a wildling, not sure where you've conjured that one up from as I never mentioned it) and over Ned's shame at her killing herself when he left. Equally taking Jon Snow under his care would be a sense of responsibility for the boy following his mother's death.

[VSG]

Ya, I was wondering where you got the "Ashara Dayne is a wildling" part.

I can see where Stark blood overpowering Targaryen blood comes in to retain Jon Snow's warg abilities though.

The more I think about it now, it could well be the reason George Martin had Jon Snow decline Stannis' offer to be declared a legal Stark and be Keeper of Winterfell was to have a potentially dying Stannis (who is currently King after having beater the Lannisters and Boltons but defeated by Aegon) declaring Jon Snow a true Targaryen. Jon Snow and Daenerys could then team up against Aegon and win. Lots of if's and but's here but I guess I changed my mind.

[Requiem]

Huh? Nah, I agree with the points you brought up there. Some of that was me restating a few things for VSG's argument. Don't think I said anything that conflicts with what you said. Your point was definitely spot on, I just thought I needed to expand on it because I was thinking about it more. The bit about Ned's honor and Stark family lines and all.

It wasn't anything you said, but I thought it was assumed from the books that Ashara Dayne was a wildling woman? I could be wrong about that. In fact, I probably am. That was something that was in the back of my mind that sounded correct at the time.

Also, one of the other theories floating around the internet is that Tyrion is actually the son of Aerys (the mad king) and Joanna, Tywin's wife. That this is where the bad blood came from. http://towerofthehand.com/blog/2010/09/06_fire_and_bloodlines/index.html They present a pretty solid argument actually, although I'm less convinced of this as I am of the theory about Jon Snow. There are a few things that just don't make sense to me - such as why Tywin would keep Tyrion alive if he knew.

Although it still has its merits. His obsession with dragons, his mismatched eyes and the description of his hair, possibly denoting mixed lineage. Tyrion spoke of how he dreamed of flying on a dragon. Either the musings of a dreamer, or foreshadowing. Tywin's last words to him - "You...you are no...no son of mine." - which could be seen as spite, which is how Tyrion took them, or they could be the last words of one of the most calculating men in Westeros. He also told Tyrion that he would NEVER be the lord of Casterly Rock. Does he hate him that much, or does he suspect or possibly know more? Keeping Tyrion alive would be a much more humbling character trait if Tywin DID know, but it would also go hand in hand with his cruelty toward Tyrion over the years. Maybe he kept him alive for Joanna's sake? Maybe it wasn't her fault that Aerys took her? He was The Mad King after all.

The 2nd and 3rd theories on the page have less merit, but the first about Tyrion seems plausible.

The main problem I have with this is that the dragon is supposed to have 3 heads. Dany, Aegon, aaand? The Jon Snow theory sounds more plausible to me. If he is the third head, then it wouldn't make sense for Tyrion to also be a Targaryen.

In the event that something happens to Aegon (seeing as he is not really a POV character in the books, and I'm sure more people are going to die in the next 2 books) then that would leave open the possibilities of Tyrion and Jon being the 2nd and 3rd heads of the dragon.

Dunno. Up until a couple days ago, I hadn't even thought of the possibility of an established character being someone other than who we think they are. But some of these theories actually have parts which seem plausible.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Ashara Dayne was a noble lady, the younger sister of Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning, who is considered a fucking legend by everyone.

[VSG]

Episode 10 out, streaming it as we speak. Got to wait another 10 months now :'(

[VSG]

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[Krimzon7]

fuck. i gotta read these books

[The Destroyer]

Eh, think I can wait the 11 and a half hours til it's on TV here.

[Krimzon7]

I'm totally in need of some clarification...

[Corporate CockSnogger]

That was good. Needed more naked Daenerys in a fire with dragons though.

[Triple Naitch]

That was good. Needed more naked Daenerys in a fire with dragons though.

Totally agree, she wore way too much armor this season and hasn't gotten properly fucked since Drogo.

Still, awesome finale. Bummed that we have to wait almost an entire year.

[The Destroyer]

Going to hibernate, wake me up the day before Season 3 premieres. Thanks.

[Brigstocke]

Not sure if this has come up previously, but Melisandre said that Azor Ahai would be reborn 'amidst salt and smoke'. Many readers seem to have taken to the idea that this person will have had at some point lived on Dragonstone.

However, At Jon's 'Death' it is said that his wound is 'smoking' and also notes that Bowen marsh was crying during the attack (salt in his tears).

Could Jon Snow be Azor Ahai reborn? I cannot see him being killed off at this point so have to assume that Melisandre will either 'raise him' or will have foreseen the attack and sent another man dressed in a 'glamour' of Jon Snow.

[Triple Naitch]

[ /spoiler]

[Lock Jaw]

Daaaaamn that ending. Really hope Sam isn't dead. Kinda like his character. Kinda stretching it if an entire undead army just walks past him without even one stopping to gut him.

Also, who the hell burned Winterfell? Thought the Iron Islanders were gonna hand Theon over to the Northerners on the outside of the gate, and then be let go. As per Robb's orders. I'm sure that if they stopped to set fire to everything, the Northerners would have busted in and killed them all before they could do it. Or did the Northerners just decide to set fire to everything for a lark?

[VSG]

Daaaaamn that ending. Really hope Sam isn't dead. Kinda like his character. Kinda stretching it if an entire undead army just walks past him without even one stopping to gut him.

Also, who the hell burned Winterfell? Thought the Iron Islanders were gonna hand Theon over to the Northerners on the outside of the gate, and then be let go. As per Robb's orders. I'm sure that if they stopped to set fire to everything, the Northerners would have busted in and killed them all before they could do it. Or did the Northerners just decide to set fire to everything for a lark?

Answers in Book 3, or Season 5 if you desire to wait.

[Lock Jaw]

I honestly do not know what to do. Currently reading book 1. It is helping me understand a lot better. I can only imagine how the second book will help me to understand the more convoluted second season.

However, once I finish the second book... I dunno whether I should continue. I kind of like having the "Holy Shit" moments on TV. Then, on the other hand, it would mean waiting two plus years until I can read the third book.

[VSG]

Read on, you still get the Holy Shit moments on TV as (1) you won't remember every single detail from the books after reading 5 books and (2) the TV show is deviating more and more in detail from the books.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I'm holding off on the books until it's all done. Or maybe I'll eventually give in and watch the books for the seasons that have been out so far.

[VSG]

At that rate you will very likely lose interest in this. The last book is not expected in the next 6-7 years at the very least.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

THEN SO BE IT. FUCK YOU.

[VSG]

OK :'(

[Lock Jaw]

What the hell is the TV show gonna do if they get to that point and the next book isn't out yet?

[Requiem]

I doubt that's going to happen. Book 3 will be 2 seasons. We're looking at another 4 seasons before the 6th book needs to be out. The rumor is that the 6th and 7th books are each going to be 1500+ pages. Which means that they could also split them into 2 seasons each if that is the case. So we're looking at a potential 10 seasons of Game of Thrones, which is pretty fucking awesome. A 100 hour fantasy epic.

Have also heard that Martin already told HBO how the series will end in case something happens to him before it is finished.

Really hope all that is true. It could be that HBO really wants another 'namesake' show like The Sopranos, and this would definitely be the way to do it.

[RoXer]

It could be that HBO really wants another 'namesake' show like The Sopranos

which you need to watch btw

[Requiem]

Saw part of the first season. Liked it, need to definitely watch more of.

[Blitz]

Powered through the 2 seasons in the past few days. And I never get through stuff that quick. Such an amazing show. Bronn is the best character ever. I'd watch an hour of just him and Tyrion bantering. Love Varys too. And I need more Jaqen next season. So much more Jaqen.

I don't remember the last time I saw a show that was this good. Or one that looked this good. Dunno how the fuck they do some of this stuff on a TV budget. The wildfire at Blackwater and the good look at the White Walker both gave me huge chills. So great.

Gonna read all the books now :y:

[VSG]

We got another fan I see :y:

[XL]

Anyone know when Season 2 is released on DVD in the UK? (answers in a rep please, to avoid spoilers).

[VSG]

No one knows. This is your best shot: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Game-Thrones-Season-2-DVD/dp/B005PN8BUS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1339202455&sr=8-3

[Requiem]

One of the details I wish they would have kept in season 2. Jaime went into it a little bit.. he mentioned it off-hand in the show. But I feel like this was a really defining point to his character.

Page from the book posted on reddit
http://i.imgur.com/oTXqW.jpg

[Hanso Amore]

Jaqen ghar is by chance my favorite character ever.

I love how in westeros it's all games for a throne but across the sea there is super assassins, dragons, warlocks etc. fuck the war lets take season 3 to bravos.

[Hanso Amore]

Also I love bronn and tyrions relationship. Greatness. Fit together so well.

Queen to be tyrell is a fucking nasty ho. Do anything to be queen, including her brothers sloppy seconds....

[Hanso Amore]

Also isn't Sansa a bit old to just be getting her first period?

[Requiem]

She is only 11 years old in the beginning of the series.

[Hanso Amore]

Poor casting then. I figured she was fifteen in the first season

Fucking area looks more like eleven

[Requiem]

Nah, ALL the characters are younger in the books than they are in the show. By a couple years I believe.

Dany is 13 in the start of the books. Pretty sure Robb was 14, Jon Snow was 14. Arya is 9. Bran was 10.

In this world, kids mature much faster and it's not uncommon for kids to assume the roles of an adult much sooner in life. Robb is like 15 or 16 when he is proclaimed King of the North and starts commanding troops and kicking Tywin's ass.

[The Destroyer]

She's 11 in the books, not in the series. Believe she's meant to be about 14 following the aging up of the kids.

Although the whole period thing ties in more with her book age really, guess she's just meant to be a late bloomer.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Bran is 7 in the books. He's younger than Arya.

[Hanso Amore]

She's 11 in the books, not in the series. Believe she's meant to be about 14 following the aging up of the kids.

Although the whole period thing ties in more with her book age really, guess she's just meant to be a late bloomer.

Just seems like they could have skipped that bit or gone another way. I'm fine Witt the ages they appear in the show. I also accept that ages will be kind of loosey goosey because there's no way the child actors can age at the same rate as the book characters. Someone told me something like that at this point in the books Joffrey went from 14 to 17. So the younGer kids will see age issues. M

Also holy fuck, in real life the actors who play Sansa and arya are like only a few months apart in age. The actress who plays arya is like fifteen. Damn.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Just watched all 20 episodes over the course of a few days. Wish I waited until there was more seasons, but I was bored. Watched it while playing Kingdoms of Amalur cause it seemed appropriate.

Best moment was probably Tonks from Harry Potter going nude. :)

[Heisenberg]

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[Blitz]

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Love the Jon and Jorah.

More then halfway through A Feast For Crows now. These books are amazing. A Storm of Swords especially.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I finished them all a while ago. They were a good read overall but I think amazing is over-stating it. They drag on an awful lot in the second half of the series and the author has written himself into some massive corners that he probably won't live long enough to write his way out of. It's quite frustrating reading a story knowing that there likely will never be a real resolution.

[Blitz]

Shit ton of new season 3 cast members (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/57010) announced for Comic-con.

No Mance Rayder announced yet though, oddly.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

lol Dennis Pennis in Game of Thrones.

[VSG]

Shit ton of new season 3 cast members (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/57010) announced for Comic-con.

No Mance Rayder announced yet though, oddly.

Nice, looks like we will be getting Slaver's Bay, and hopefully The Unsullied pretty soon.

[VSG]

Interesting that they have cast the Reed children even though they were not present when Bran and Rikkon left Winterfell.

[The Destroyer]

Could have gotten a more recent picture of the guy playing Jojen Reed, he looks about 12. Must at least be in his 20s by now.

Diana Rigg and Clive Russell. :y:

[VSG]

There is a video of the cast members in that page, he looks 12 in there.

[Brigstocke]

She is only 11 years old in the beginning of the series.

She tells Cersei in Season 1 episode 1 of the TV show that she is 13.

[Requiem]

Yeah I know, I was saying in the books she is 11. Was talking about all the characters in the books being younger than in the show.

[Brigstocke]

Sorry buddy, when you say 'series' I assume you are talking real English. As in when you say 'series', you mean 'TV series'.

I had forgotten you bellends speak a bastardized version of our great language, and have needlessly substituted the word 'series' with the word 'season'. You pack of spastic fuckwits.

[Lock Jaw]

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q223/Trrrath/599778_4344386335827_2118276599_n.jpg

I never realized/recognized this. My mind is blown.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Damn, I didn't recognized it either.

[Brigstocke]

Here's a good one for British GoT fans.

Sandor (The Hound) Clegane in all his bawdy Scotch early days glory

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[The Destroyer]

I remember that advert, never realised it was him. :'(

[Brigstocke]

Also, Here is Theon Greyjoy cavorting about in Elizabeth.

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsA/67947-24173.jpg

[Heisenberg]

I had a good GoT mark out moment at the beginning of the Dark Knight Rises.

Littlefinger on a plane

[Brigstocke]

Tywin Lannister chasing after Mr Bond.

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsD/4133-6582.gif

[Brigstocke]

Robert Baratheon in UK TV Sunday Night Staple of the 90's Heartbeat.
http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/73/e4d80b7e324421020cc46ad221836bca/l.jpg

[Brigstocke]

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsM/11031.gif

The Greatjon ironically playing Littlejohn in Robin of Sherwood in the mid 80's.

[Brigstocke]

Last one, Lord Eddard Stark playing a petty criminal in The Bill.

http://static.whatsontv.co.uk/images/gallery/BillFamousFaces18_0.JPG

[Triple Naitch]

I enjoyed Robert Baratheon from Still Standing. :$

[Blitz]

I had a good GoT mark out moment at the beginning of the Dark Knight Rises.

Littlefinger on a plane
Didn't even realize that was him till I looked at the DKR IMDB page.

[Heisenberg]

Didn't even realize that was him till I looked at the DKR IMDB page.

Yeah, it set the bar high on how the movie was going to be, fuckin' awesome.

[The Destroyer]

Didn't even realize that was him till I looked at the DKR IMDB page.
He did seem to look a bit fatter in TDKR.

[Blitz]

In more season three casting news, Iwan Rheon is cast as "Boy". But rumour has it that Boy is actually Ramsay "The Bastard of Bolton" Snow

[Corporate CockSnogger]

The Dothraki fella that hangs out with Daenerys in season 2 is Leo Johnson from Brookside.

[Brigstocke]

The Knight of Flowers, Ser Loras Tyrell used to be Jamie in Hollyoaks.

Also Doreah used to be in Hollyoaks

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Joffery was in Batman Begins. That little shit.

Just picked up Books 1-4 at work for like 9 bucks each. Didn't think the books would be this long.

Ive gotten through like 200+ chapters of Game Of Thrones. Not sure if I will go on to the other ones just yet once I finish. Seems that HBO has done a great job in making this a faithful re-telling of the book so far except for the age of the children and Dany.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Joffery was in Batman Begins. That little shit.



Do you EVER read a thread before you post in it? Even the preceding few posts?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I guess I used search for text about Batman and it didn't show up. Search doesn't work for photos.

[Blitz]

Ciaran Hinds cast as Mance Rayder.

[Heisenberg]

Hopefully we'll get to see Mance Rayder in the beginning episodes of next season. I think they were taking Jon Snow to see him at the end of last season. Going to be badass.

[whiteyford]

I've cracked and started reading the books, wish i'd done it sooner now.

[Heisenberg]

I'm starting the third book after the first episode of the new season, so I have something to hold me over between episodes.

[Lock Jaw]

I just finished the second book. Rewatching the second season now.

Still debating whether or not to pick up and start the third book. I probably will.

[whiteyford]

Does the second book finish at the same point as the second season?

[Heisenberg]

From what I remember it does, it had a lot more content in it and I got lost in it in a good way.

[whiteyford]

I'm not that far into the second one but I think, like Lock Jaw, I'll just carry on reading the rest of the series.

[Lock Jaw]

Book finishes at roughly the same point. TV show changes/adds/does a lot different than the book in season 2.

[Blitz]

Daario Naharis and Grey Worm cast. (http://winteriscoming.net/2012/08/daario-naharis-and-grey-worm-cast/)

[whiteyford]

Is the third book in two parts?

[The Destroyer]

The UK paperback was divided into two bits, probably because the publishers thought it would be scare people off due to being so long.

[whiteyford]

Was just looking at the Kindle versions and it looked to be the same but there is a complete edition and a four & seven book set, hooked on the books now :-\

[Blitz]

First look at Daario Naharis and Missandei

http://winteriscoming.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/MisDaar.jpg

[Miotch]

Can't wait to see Missandei's baps.

[whiteyford]

Isn't she about 10 in the books?

[Blitz]

And Robb is like 14 and Dany is like 13, etc., etc.. All the characters are aged up in the show.

[whiteyford]

I get that, just seems a big jump since she's supposed to be a child.

[NLO85]

GRRM has released a new chapter from Book 6 if anybody is interested...
http://www.georgerrmartin.com/if-sample.html

[Miotch]

Oh great more shit in Dorne that I do not give a fuck about.

[NLO85]

Agreed, but even crappy subplots of ASOIF beats nothing... Now he's posted that he's deleted the Theon sample chapter...

[Lock Jaw]

Still struggling to make my way through the fourth book.

[VSG]

Oh great more shit in Dorne that I do not give a fuck about.

Dorne is hopefully about to get interesting with what happened in book 5. If not, fuck them all.

[whiteyford]

Didn't mind the Dorne stuff personally.

[NLO85]

It was a nice break from reading Brienne's walking tour of the Riverlands which was honestly difficult reading. But the subplot with Arianne & Myrcella really led nowhere, looks like things are starting to heat up though & Dorne will play an important part in the final couple of books

[VSG]

Ya, the thing I disliked about Dorne till now is the author tried too hard to emphasize that Dorne liked to keep to itself. So much so that all the Dorne stories didn't have a major consequence to the rest of the kingdom. He has put in a lot of starting points for expansion, however, and so I remain cautiously optimistic.

Also, I think we should discuss this in the thread meant for the book series and not the TV series.

[NLO85]

By all means, sorry I'm new here. I searched under A Song of Ice & Fire but couldn't find the thread...

[VSG]

lol don't worry about it, not your fault.

[Blitz]

High res promo shots of most of the cast from season 3 here. (http://winteriscoming.net/2013/01/first-season-three-photos-released/)

[Lock Jaw]

Would help if it said who they were supposed to be.

[Lock Jaw]

Never mind, found another site that had the names. Could not even identify Meera as a female.

[VSG]

High res promo shots of most of the cast from season 3 here. (http://winteriscoming.net/2013/01/first-season-three-photos-released/)

Why is Severus Snape at The Wall?

[Blitz]

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[Blitz]

Full trailer supposedly coming end of February.

[razorblade kisses]

To be honest, that trailer is a little lame. It didn't make me excited at all.

When is the next series airing?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Season and it's March 31st as it said in the video.

[whiteyford]

April 1st in the UK.

[Krimzon7]

and im' excited like a motherfucker!

[razorblade kisses]

Sorry, I'm British. I think season may be an Americanism. And I'm sorry I didn't clarify that I wanted to know when it was on in the UK, thanks for responding anyway :)

[MVP]

Just pre-ordered season 2 on blu-ray on Amazon for $34.99. :cool:

[Blitz]

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[Blitz]

I'm not sure how I feel about this. I have a sneaking suspicion that I hate it. Would nail "Melisandre" though.

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Also 3 weeks.

[Blitz]

Also, revealed episode titles



Ep. 301 - Valar Dohaeris
Ep. 302 - Dark Wings, Dark Words
Ep. 303 - Walk of Punishment
Ep. 304 - And Now His Watch is Ended
Ep. 305 - Kissed by Fire
Ep. 306 - to be determined
Ep. 307 - The Bear and the Maiden Fair
Ep. 308 - to be determined
Ep. 309 - The Rains of Castamere
Ep. 310 - Mhysa

Gives you a pretty good idea of the course of the season if you've read the books.

[whiteyford]

Was only planning on reading the books up to when the show finished but couldn't resist, grinning at the titles there though.

[VSG]

I'm not sure how I feel about this. I have a sneaking suspicion that I hate it. Would nail "Melisandre" though.

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Also 3 weeks.

I might watch the next episode before deciding if I hate it or not. Melisandre is a :y: though.

[Blitz]

I don't really get the Starks being hipsters. I mean I guess because they keep the old gods or whatever, but I feel like they should be goths or something, what with all the dire pronouncements they make.

[El Fangel]

Caught up to everyone. So so so fucking pumped for Season 3.

[El Fangel]

Oh and I just want to point out what some may have forgotten. Tyrion still has those poisonous mushroom caps in the tip of his boot.

[VSG]

What?

[Lock Jaw]

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Good Littlefinger impression. Hate Theon already, though.

[razorblade kisses]

I've just started reading the first Game of Thrones book after watching the first two series. I'm really enjoying it.

I have a weird inappropriate crush on Littlefinger. I don't know why, I just totally dig his sarky cleverness.

[Blitz]

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Want nowwwwwwwwwwwwww

[El Fangel]

Omfg, they are republishing Droun. Forward by Martin.

I'm so excited for epic fantasy right now.

[Lock Jaw]

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Final episode.

[Blitz]

Yes. I have decided I hate that series.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I'm not sure how I feel about this. I have a sneaking suspicion that I hate it. Would nail "Melisandre" though.

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Also 3 weeks.

Why would she call Joffery, Joffery Lanister? He's Joffery Baratheon.

[Heisenberg]

Oh shit, are we less than a week from the new season?

I believe so

[RoXer]

Finally started the books. Over half way done with the first and then will rewatch season 1 sometime this week I think.

[Lock Jaw]

Yes. I have decided I hate that series.

So did I, but I figured I might as well post the last one.



Anyways, I like how Walking Dead finishes and this starts up right away.

[VSG]

Also, Doctor Who.. Whoooooo!

[Krimzon7]

I'm going to have a HBOGO marathon to get ready for this event.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Oh shit, are we less than a week from the new season?

I believe so

It is known.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Almost done with A Storm of Swords. Not exactly sure what will be the middle point between seasons 3 and 4. So, I decided just to read the entire book before season 3 began.

[Miotch]

It's gotta be...

the red wedding

[VSG]

It's gotta be...

the red wedding

:'(:'(:'(:'(

[Miotch]

It has to be, though. It might even go 1 episode past that like they did with Ned's death in season 1.

[Blitz]

It's gotta be...

the red wedding
Episode 9.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

It's gotta be...

the red wedding

Some prick on facebook spoiled that for me. When they had all of those political ads based on Game of Thrones characters.

Stopping the season right when it starts getting really good. Damn you HBO.

[Heisenberg]

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Make yours at http://www.jointherealm.com/

[VSG]

<2 fucking days!

[Krimzon7]

AMAZING EPISODE!

[VSG]

Ya pretty good start.

[VSG]

Sucks balls that 10 weeks later we wait for another 42 weeks though.

[Blitz]

Wasn't expecting to see a giant. Awesome effect. Also wasn't expecting them to hotshot Barristan in there. I guess this means no Strong Belwas.

Love how Roose Bolton is looking this season. Just those few lines he delivered in Harrenhal were great.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Must say I am a little bit disappointed with the meeting with Mance and Jon Snow. I liked Snow's answer better in "A Storm of Swords." It was still a great scene, but I think the book formed a better connection between the two of them.

We all know what Sir Barristan looks like. I guess they figured they couldn't really pull that deception over us as easily as he did to Dany.