MLB 2006 Season Thread

[FakeLaser]

Going to the game tomorrow. Mussina vs. Bedard. Potential to be a pretty good game.

[The Outlaw]

Going to the game tomorrow. Mussina vs. Bedard. Potential to be a pretty good game.

MUSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[The Miz]

It's Roy Halladay :)

Damn, best pitcher in the AL and they still fade out last 2 months of the season like every year?

By the way, Gaudin 3.16 Says "That's my ERA"

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol 5 Red Sox/Yankee games in 4 days. I know who is the #1 fan of this situation, and its The Miz

[Joey Slugs]

Oh yeah... Sox win again.

[MVP]

Looks like ESPN is showing like 3 out of the 4 Sox/Yankees games. Figures.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Hearing that the Mets just got Shawn Green for Victor Diaz and Royce Ring...D'Backs paying some of Green's salary

Sounds pretty good. Diaz can take his .223 AVG and .275 OBP in the minor leagues elsewhere.

Mainly a postseason move for the Mets. No way in hell do you want Milledge starting during the playoffs, so you stack up on veterans (also heard of getting Preston Wilson) to possibly take his spot. It's gonna be like Spring Training in September, basically</font>

[RoXer]

If thats official then meh. I've been hearing talks of him being traded to the Mets for a few days now. I was hoping they could get some better pitching.

Have fun with his shitty defense.

[Joey Slugs]

Looks like ESPN is showing like 3 out of the 4 Sox/Yankees games. Figures.

Yet the White Sox play the Twins and Tigers at the same time... and get no love. Bullshit.

[OssMan]

shawn green...please tell me it isnt true...

[BCWWF]

Yet the White Sox play the Twins and Tigers at the same time... and get no love. Bullshit.

But Joey, the Red Sox/Yankees games could have potential playoff implications.

[YOUR Hero]

Jays slumped, they haven't faded (completely)

[ct2k]

Yknow I agree with BCWWF and Joey, I just can't understand why ESPN would wanna focus on the Yankees/Sox series:roll:

[Joey Slugs]

But Joey, the Red Sox/Yankees games could have potential playoff implications.

:lol:

They must be the only two teams in a close race then.

[BCWWF]

I swear the Red Sox are out of it anyway. Chicago could potentially catch Detroit now, what.

[ct2k]

Man its gonna be such a fun end to this season in the AL.

Also, if ESPN is like Sky over here, the schedule for the entire year is set out before the season starts, they only tend to change them when there are rain-outs etc. And lets face it, nobody expected the Tigers to be as good as they have. Plus over here we've really had as many CWS games as we have Yankee or Red Sox ones. We're getting the Tigers/Red Sox tomorrow night, should be good:y:

[The Miz]

Jays making the playoffs (or World Series as Gertner predicted for the 17th year in a row) has the same chances of Chacin being better than Blanton.

[ct2k]

AL

East: Yankees
Central: Tigers
West: A's
Wildcard: White Sox

NL

East: Mets
Central: Cards
West: Dodgers
Wildcard: Braves


Thats right, Atlanta:mad:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I still think the Red Sox got a pretty good chance of making it (Well depending what happens this weekend) but if not, I am glad they didn't do something stupid and trade away really good prospects for some 2 and a half month rental player. I just wish Beckett could turn it around, if he get his shit together the future rotation could be pretty sick with Lester, Beckett and Papelbon (He'll prob be moved back since he has shown to actaully be a human in the last few weeks) Then with Hanson and Declaremen in the pen as well the pitching staff should be pretty good. Of course they'll have to pick up a few more pieces but Red Sox got the resources to do that I'd think.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I remember last year I said the Red Sox had a really good farm system and I got laughed at, but if you look at it.

Hansen
Declaremen
Anibal Sanchez
Papelbon
Lester
Hanley Ramirez

And Jacoby Ellsbury will be next

[Joey Slugs]

Man its gonna be such a fun end to this season in the AL.

Also, if ESPN is like Sky over here, the schedule for the entire year is set out before the season starts, they only tend to change them when there are rain-outs etc. And lets face it, nobody expected the Tigers to be as good as they have. Plus over here we've really had as many CWS games as we have Yankee or Red Sox ones. We're getting the Tigers/Red Sox tomorrow night, should be good:y:
ESPN and Fox move games around all the time. Nothing is set in stone.

[The Miz]

Who laughed at you? I remember you saying you read that they had the best, which is a joke. They're good, but not even close to the level of LAD, LAAA and ARI

And what's so great about Hansen and Sanchez?

[ct2k]

What was the trade that sent Hanley Ramirez to the Marlins then?

[The Miz]

Lowell, Beckett, Mota for Hanley Ramirez, Anibal Sanchez and some other Hispanic pitcher

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

While looking for the post where I posted about the Red Sox farm system (I thought I said top 10, maybe I said #1, if I did I was OD'ing on hype or something) I came across this post

http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=32947

He retired in 2001, way too many injuries. Missed over 350 games his last 4 years. He was the fucking man though, 3 straight 40 homer seasons and always was clutch in the playoffs. He's not broadcasting or anything to my knowledge.

They used to have a promotion at the Kingdome where you got in free if you shaved your head like Buhner. I never did it but it made me realize how gross bald chicks are.

Buhner is awesome though. 3rd favorite M of all time.

And don't talk shit about Ichiro. He is the man.Always clutch in the playoffs?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Jesussssssssssssssss Delgado

[ct2k]

Looks like we've got some good pitching prospects at the moment. The one guy who's a walking hype machine, Phillips is it? Everybody wanted him come trade deadline, luckily Cashman told them to fuck off:y: Hope to see him come up in the next few years, if he does anywhere near as good a job as Andy Pettitte did for us he'llve been well worth keeping, i just hope the hype doesn't blow too far out of proportion (fat chance)

[The Miz]

Guess opinions aren't allowed to change

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

He was the other person in the Beckett/Lowell trade

Sox then sent Mota, Andy Mart and Kelly Shoppach (he's in the majors now too, could really use him right now) for Coco Crisp

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Kinda surprised the Red Sox traded Shoppach because now they have no real catching prospect in the minors but they got Josh Bard in return I guess, probably didn't suspect he'd have no chance of catching the knukle ball.

And I guess opinions are allowed to change when the guy being called clutch is not on your favorite team.

[The Miz]

LOL. Yeah man that's it. I'm just an Ortiz hater, it has nothing to do with that I did alot of sabermetric reading and research since the time of that post. Willie Bloomquist for MVP

The Miz also thought wins and batting average were good stats at one time. Kinda hard not to when any time you watch any baseball on TV the commentators act like they are. I no longer think Buhner is a clutch hitter if that makes you happy

[ct2k]

I think Joe Morgan said clutch atleast 6 times on sunday night

[ct2k]

Howcome we never debate clutch pitching?

[Joey Slugs]

Howcome we never debate clutch pitching?

My head might explode.

Serious.

Clutch picthing is even more impossible than clutch hitting.

[ct2k]

Bottom of the 9th, runners on the corners, no outs, David Ortiz at the plate with newly acquired Vladimir Guerrero on deck and Manny in the hole here at Fenway, game 7 of the Fall Classic

[RoXer]

JAY BUHNER :love:

[Joey Slugs]

Bottom of the 9th, runners on the corners, no outs, David Ortiz at the plate with newly acquired Vladimir Guerrero on deck and Manny in the hole here at Fenway, game 7 of the Fall Classic

Still not following....

[ct2k]

Would it help if i said the pitcher on the mound was none other than POTENTIAL 20 GAME WINNER FREDDY GARCIA?!!!!!!1

[BCWWF]

Flip Flopper

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Changing your mind is alright, but getting upset when somebody says the samething you said 13 months ago is kind of weak. Especially when you do shit like "OMGOMG HIT IN THE 9TH INNING HES SO CLUTCH"

[ct2k]

lol, remember John Rocker?

[The Miz]

Why is it weak? The only people I ever "get upset" at are the ones who say shit like "Well ARod really had a great year, but Ortiz is just so clutch it puts him over the top". Even when I believed in clutch hitting I would never consider Buhner or anybody else better than another player solely due to clutchness.

Actually scratch all that I'm just a Mariners homer, evidenced by all my posts in this thread about them and all my praise for their players.

[ct2k]

If being a stand up guy and good influence in the team isn't considered valuable then i don't see why being clutch should be. MVP is based on stats pure and simple, Ortiz will win this year because of his stats, as will Thome if he wins, despite the fact that the White Sox have produced SHITloads of runs anyway this year and the fact that he doesn't play defense

[OssMan]

REYES!!! 3-3, 3 HR 1 from each side of the plate

[YOUR Hero]

As I predicted, my Jays are raising. They will never lose another game this entire decade.

Miz, don't get so wrapped up in this sabermetric stuff. The game is not simply a sum of it's numbers, there are a lot of factors.. People still have emotions and perform better or worst or the same in certain situations. Also being clutch does not mean you come through everytime as you seem to insinuate I/we mean when we talk about it.

[The Miz]

You don't know what sabermetrics are.

[FakeLaser]

Pretty incredible game tonight. A-Rod sucked big time though. OH WELL, up 3 games now. Also, Johnny Damon pretty much owned.

[BCWWF]

You don't know what sabermetrics are.

lol.

And Thome is not even near the top player statistically. Maybe in HR, but there is more than one player who is better than him in multiple stats, including RBI, AVG and OBP.

[BCWWF]

That means there are certain players who are higher than him in all of those categories, fyi.

Also, Joe Nathan gave up a run in a non-save situation, again.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Fuckin Red Sox...Schilling goes 7 innings and only gives up 2 runs and they still lose..........fuck

[SammyG]

Dodgers.

[Splaya]

Fuckin Red Sox...Schilling goes 7 innings and only gives up 2 runs and they still lose..........fuck


I love it, Go Tigers.


Poor Placido though :(

[Joey Slugs]

Cubs and Astros are still going...

6-6 in the bottom of the 17th (@ 12:17am CST)

[JohnnyDrama]

Reds come out in the first game of a huge series against the Cards and lay an absolute egg. Carpenter owned us. But the Reds didn't help themselves much by starting Clayton and LaRue instead of Aurilla and Ross. Hope they come to play tomorrow with a better lineup behind Bronson, he's got to win his 10th game sometime, right?

[DaveWadding]

According to RotoWorld, Shawn Green is willing to waive his no trade clause to play for the Mets.

:wave: :wave: :wave:

[ct2k]

And just like that its 3 games again! I think it's fair to say (so far) Bobby Abreu hasn't had any trouble adjusting to the AL.

Also, 2 games in hand on Boston, not sure when they'll be made up but man thats fuckin helpful

[FakeLaser]

Abreu should have had that ball at the wall last night.

Made up for it with his beastly arm though.

This weekend is going to be huge. 5 games in 4 days vs. Boston. I feel like A-Rod can turn things around in this series. If he gets some big hits his confidence will be restored.

[ct2k]

I think ARod is just struggling all around this season, its not just defense, he's also been patchy with his offense too but I think he'll pick it up down the stretch, the guy's a class act on the field generally regardless of what a tit he is with the media.

[ct2k]

But considering the performances we've gotten out of Damon, Jeter, Giambi, Cano, Posada and now Abreu it's not exactly a big issue. Also A-Rod is hardly putting up bad numbers, they're just not the ridunculous ones we're used to.

[FakeLaser]

It's more his defense than anything. His offensive numbers aren't bad. He chokes, but not as much as people lead on, it just appears that he does more because every time he fucks up he gets booed and gets shit for it.

Last night he got probably the loudest ovation of all when introduced. The fans want him to do well. He got booed out of the building after the error, strikeout and popout though. If he doesn't perform he gets booed. Not too encouraging. What he needs is some big hits against Boston or a ring. Then he'll be fine.

[SammyG]

Dodgers. 17 outta 18.

[ct2k]

The ring is the all important thing I reckon.

Still, it shouldn't matter to the guy, he's earning through the roof for staters and at the end of the day, they need somebody to boo, if Boston aren't in town who else is it gonna be?

[The Outlaw]

lol, remember John Rocker?

:foc:

Looks like we've got some good pitching prospects at the moment. The one guy who's a walking hype machine, Phillips is it? Everybody wanted him come trade deadline, luckily Cashman told them to fuck off:y: Hope to see him come up in the next few years, if he does anywhere near as good a job as Andy Pettitte did for us he'llve been well worth keeping, i just hope the hype doesn't blow too far out of proportion (fat chance)

You mean Andy Phillips right? Hometown boy...:y:

[FakeLaser]

I think he means Philip Hughes.

[ct2k]

Yeah Andy Phillips ain't no power pitching prospect:p

[ct2k]

So the Dodgers are getting annihilated

[ct2k]

Andy Pettitte gives up 1 run over 9 and loses

[The Outlaw]

lol I didn't even read the full thing, just his name. :o

[OssMan]

john lieber needs to be punched in the face

[SammyG]

Marlins :(

[YOUR Hero]

Blue Jays trade Hinske to the Red Sox. (early reports)

[Dragon]

Yankees lose and the Red Sox win. Lead is back down to 2. Don't think the Sox have a game tomorrow so hopefully we go in with a 2.5 game lead.

Had a question though, what's the minimum at-bats needed to be considered for the league leaders in batting?

[YOUR Hero]

IF I remember correctly. It's 3.1 at bats for every game your team has played.

[MVP]

Adam Kennedy charged the mound and cleared both benches after getting plunked by Scott Feldman.

John Lackey had to be restrained by 4 other players, LOL

[Loose Cannon]

Does Lackey have Down Syndrome?

[RoXer]

LOL Mariners [/VEL]

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

502 at bats

[DaveWadding]

Andy Pettitte gives up 1 run over 9 and loses
And the run he gave up was really really cheap. Barrett's HR BARELY cleared the wall of the Crawford Boxes. and the rook the Cubs started let 11 guys get on base and gave up no runs.All in all a very very lucky win.

[Gertner]

Blue Jays trade Hinske to the Red Sox. (early reports)

ugh, thank god.

[Gertner]

Damn, best pitcher in the AL and they still fade out last 2 months of the season like every year?

By the way, Gaudin 3.16 Says "That's my ERA"

Unfortunatly Halladay can't ppitch all 5 games.


And "shitty" Scott Downs is now 6-1 btw

[Gertner]

good to see Hillendbrand fall flat on his face in san fran.

Accardo has a 2.13 era now :)

[Dragon]

Wow, losing 12-2 to the Orioles.

Nothing like having some momentum going into the Boston series tomorrow lol

[The Miz]

Scott Downs' six wins:

#1 vs. BAL 6/6. Pitched one inning, in which he gave up a double and 2 walks, blowing a 3-2 lead. Alex Rios later hits a 2 run homer in a spectacular display of Downs' winning ability.

#2 vs. PHI 7/1. Pitched one inning, allowing no runs to keep the score 0-0. The next half-inning, he transported his win knowledge to Troy Glaus and Eric Hinske, who prceeded to homer and get Downs the win he deserved.

#3 vs. SEA 7/15. Bengie Molina was so inspired by Downs' scoreless 14th he proceeded to lace a single in the bottom half with Lyle Overbay on second. Downs' winniness had begun to spread to all players on the roster.

#4 vs. SEA 7/16. The Blue Jays made it clear Downs pitching in extra innings motivates them to start hitting. The Mariners offense was overmatched by Downs' winning ability as evidenced by the 3 Blue Jay singles off George Sherrill in the bottom of the 11th.

#5 vs. OAK 7/28. Downs not only stifled Oakland's offense, but gave his bullpen mates a rest as well, giving up just 2 hits and a homer in 0.1 game-saving innings. Justin Speier and BJ Ryan, who combined for 3.2 scoreless in relief of Downs, later begged for Downs to teach them the ways of the win.

#6 vs. MIN 8/13. I have nothing funny to say about this one. The Twins suck



While Chad Gaudin may have an ERA a full run lower than Downs at 7 years younger, some question when Gaudin will improve his win factor.
------

Your task is to find one other person on planet Earth who would rather have Scott Downs on their team than Chad Gaudin. The handicapped people you work with don't count.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol I don't even know who Scott Downs is, you really love baseball eh?

[The Miz]

Took about 10 minutes to look at the game summaries. I've seen him pitch maybe twice this year

[Gertner]

Scott Downs' six wins:

#1 vs. BAL 6/6. Pitched one inning, in which he gave up a double and 2 walks, blowing a 3-2 lead. Alex Rios later hits a 2 run homer in a spectacular display of Downs' winning ability.

#2 vs. PHI 7/1. Pitched one inning, allowing no runs to keep the score 0-0. The next half-inning, he transported his win knowledge to Troy Glaus and Eric Hinske, who prceeded to homer and get Downs the win he deserved.

#3 vs. SEA 7/15. Bengie Molina was so inspired by Downs' scoreless 14th he proceeded to lace a single in the bottom half with Lyle Overbay on second. Downs' winniness had begun to spread to all players on the roster.

#4 vs. SEA 7/16. The Blue Jays made it clear Downs pitching in extra innings motivates them to start hitting. The Mariners offense was overmatched by Downs' winning ability as evidenced by the 3 Blue Jay singles off George Sherrill in the bottom of the 11th.

#5 vs. OAK 7/28. Downs not only stifled Oakland's offense, but gave his bullpen mates a rest as well, giving up just 2 hits and a homer in 0.1 game-saving innings. Justin Speier and BJ Ryan, who combined for 3.2 scoreless in relief of Downs, later begged for Downs to teach them the ways of the win.

#6 vs. MIN 8/13. I have nothing funny to say about this one. The Twins suck



While Chad Gaudin may have an ERA a full run lower than Downs at 7 years younger, some question when Gaudin will improve his win factor.
------

Your task is to find one other person on planet Earth who would rather have Scott Downs on their team than Chad Gaudin. The handicapped people you work with don't count.


Downs can spot start, Gaudin can't.

[The Miz]

What?

64 career minor league starts, 10 career major league starts. He is perfectly capable of starting but the A's have no reason to start him due to how effective he's been out of the pen.

Whether or not Gaudin can spot start doesn't change the fact that Downs didn't do anything in 5 of his 6 "wins" that supposedly make him so impressive

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol fuck, Johnson and Lester going in the double header tomorrow. Makes sense since neither ever gets past the 5 or 6th inning :-\

Heard Keith Foulke might be coming back for the second game WOOOO haha well could be good if he actaully can pitch this time, but I don't have much faith really

[YOUR Hero]

It still baffles my mind that the Jays let Gaudin go. He had some nasty stuff, mainly his slider.

Hinske was looking good in his role this year. I don't know if he could put together the type of first year numbers he did, but he was valuable in Toronto this season... moreso than I thought he'd be. I wish him well. He remained positive in his diminshed role, something you couldn't say about Hillenbrand.

[RoXer]

ALSO

Why isn't 2 and 2/3rds of an inning 2.6? Or a third of an inning being .3?

[The Miz]

2.7, didn't your 5th grade teacher teach you how to round :roll:

[RoXer]

STILL

[RoXer]

hahaha "clutch poster"

[YOUR Hero]

I was given a bunch of older baseball pins today at work. The ones I have remaining I will send to posters here if they like. From memory I will post which ones I still have left. There is only one of each, first come first serve. They're not worth anything, I should.

Oakland A's
Anaheim Angels
Milwaukee Brewers
Cincinnati Reds
New York Yankees
Chicago Cubs
Texas Rangers
Phillies

..there might be one or two more, but I can't recall. So yeah. I'll send them out for the hell of it if you gays wants.

[The Miz]

lol @ dumb ass Rangers and Angels. YEAH MAN FORGET THE PENNANT RACE LETS GET SUSPENDED SO WE CAN PROVE WHOS THE BIGGER MAN

[YOUR Hero]

*if it's not too expensive

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I was just thinking how ridiculous baseball was before they started using the wildcard, pretty fucked. 4 teams total

[ct2k]

New York Yankees


sup

[YOUR Hero]

PM me a mailing addy

[RoXer]

I want an A's one. Please.

[YOUR Hero]

PM me with mailing info :mad:
:love:

[RoXer]

I dont have my address yet.

I will though. :love:

[DaveWadding]

Hero, I'll take the Cubbies one :naughty:

[Joey Slugs]

For those of you that get SI, there is a cool article this week written by Chris Ballard that follows through 6 days in the AL Central.

Best part of the piece (besides it giving some much needed love to the ALC) is what he wrote for the Sox/Angels make up game. He talks to my friend and former co-worker Amy, my old boss Denise (I slept with one of her daughters), and goes to my local bar (owned by a friend of my family and its two blocks from my place).

He even mentions a night where McCarthy & Jenks showed up there (I ended up drinking with Jenks for most of the night).

Good shit.

*It's the 2006 College Football Preview issue with Quinn, Zbikowski, and Thomas from Notre Dame on the cover if you happen to see it at a newsstand*

[YOUR Hero]

Hero, I'll take the Cubbies one :naughty:
then you know what to do....

[Gertner]

It still baffles my mind that the Jays let Gaudin go. He had some nasty stuff, mainly his slider.

Hinske was looking good in his role this year. I don't know if he could put together the type of first year numbers he did, but he was valuable in Toronto this season... moreso than I thought he'd be. I wish him well. He remained positive in his diminshed role, something you couldn't say about Hillenbrand.

Hinske strikes out at the worst possible time. I think that why I disliked him so much, because he wasn't bad in the field

[ct2k]

Ok so Derek Jeter is currently .378, 3 HR, 58 RBI, 1.014 OBPS in 111 AB W/RISP. Clutch?

[Joey Slugs]

Ok so Derek Jeter is currently .378, 3 HR, 58 RBI, 1.014 OBPS in 111 AB W/RISP. Clutch?

SHUT UP.

[ct2k]

:D

[ct2k]

But seriously Jeter = hitting .080 higher than Ortiz w/ RISP

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Hinske has looked pretty good thus far, can't really say the same for the pitching. Well I guess Johnson was alright for the first few innings can't really expect much more out of him

[ct2k]

Johnny Damon eh, i'm obviously having to track this on mlb gameday, whats the reaction like for him after hitting a 3B and HR already?

Can't wait for Mussina/Schilling on sunday:y:

[OssMan]

Anyone who has MLB.TV, have you downloaded the mlb.tv mosaic, and if so, did it work. It never works for me sometimes the games load but the screens just come up black but the audio plays. Or sometimes nothing happens

[ct2k]

How much does mlb.tv set you back Assman?

[The Miz]

They take it out of his lunch money

[Loose Cannon]

Did you Sox fans enjoy watching Damon just completely tear your team apart today?

[ct2k]

Jesus we destroyed Boston:|

Game 2 prediction, BOS 26-2 NYY

[OssMan]

How much does mlb.tv set you back Assman?$50 for the whole season

[ct2k]

what specs dya need?

[FakeLaser]

We should have won even bigger because Manny Ramirez shouldn't have hit that home run, as the previous pitch was clearly strike 3.

[OssMan]

what specs dya need?Dunno, but if you can run any of these team highlights easily

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/multimedia/tp_archive.jsp?c_id=nyy

then you'll be fine

[OssMan]

We should have won even bigger because Manny Ramirez shouldn't have hit that home run, as the previous pitch was clearly strike 3.not disagreeing or anything but if that pitch was strike 3, they would have thrown different pitches to the next hitter and it could have completely changed the game...i think about these things a lot like if you take one step to the right instead of the left you completely changed the world.

[OssMan]

LOL endy chavez!

[MVP]

Did you Sox fans enjoy watching Damon just completely tear your team apart today?

Slapped in the face :'(

3 GAMES LEFT THOUGH

:$

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

A Rod is such a fag

[FakeLaser]

3.5 games up niggaaaaaaaaaa

[ct2k]

Robinson Cano, Johnny Damon, Bobby Abreu = amzn

[ct2k]

My god Damon is on fire:| Starts the game off with another EBH

[The Miz]

I bet ARod haters will use that inning to bash ARod, but not Mr. Perfect who completely wasted an out

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Already shitfaced....if the Red Sox lose today im gonna rage

[The Miz]

LOL Bernie. Is there anybody Beckett won't give up a home run to?

[ct2k]

And another double from Damon

[The Miz]

Saw this on a Yankees message board, lol

1. Vernon Wells
2. Russ Adams
3. Vernon Wells (2)
4. Ben Broussard
5. Ben Broussard (2)
6. Victor Martinez
7. Jason Giambi
8. Miguel Tejada
9. Chase Utley
10. Ryan Howard
11. Vernon Wells (3)
12. Troy Glaus
13. Vernon Wells (4)
14. Troy Glaus (2)
15. Jason Giambi (2)
16. Andy Phillips
17. Kevin Mench
18. Chase Utley (2)
19. Carlos Delgado
20. Jose Valentin
21. Ty Wigginton
22. Russell Branyan
23. Ty Wigginton (2)
24. Jermaine Dye
25. Jermaine Dye (2)
26. Jim Thome
27. Mark Ellis
28. Nick Swisher
29. Aaron Boone
30. Travis Hafner
31. Shin-Shoo Choo

WHO'S NEXT?!?!?!?!?

[ct2k]

Ty Wigginton twice, ouch

Beckett's era is over 5 and has been around there for most of the season, he'd fit in equally well on the CWS rotation imo, massive run support making up for average pitching:y:

So yeah, Mussina/Wang > Beckett/Schilling

[The Miz]

Schilling has god on his side though

[FakeLaser]

It was pretty obvious that Beckett was gonna suck. At least in my eyes.

[Loose Cannon]

jesus christ. when the Yankees fuck up, they really fuck up. everything is going wrong.

[Loose Cannon]

lol, I think Torre just drank Jeter's piss.

wooo, double play

[The Miz]

Hey remember that time I got shitted on for saying Oakland's pitching would be much better than CHW, NYY and BOS this year

1. Detroit 3.68
2. Oakland 4.13
...
5. New York 4.36
....
9. Chicago 4.59
...
11. Boston 4.77

[RoXer]

God damint I don't pay attention for a few days and the A's drop 2 games to the Royals.

[YOUR Hero]

Jays have the Orioles right where they want them (down 15-0 in the bottom of the 8th, 2 outs)

[The Miz]

Add Shaun Marcum to the list of pitchers Gaudin is better than

[MVP]

So what are we, 4.5 games back now?

Playoffs are slipping farther and farther away now. It's still August though. :shifty:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Hey remember that time I got shitted on for saying Oakland's pitching would be much better than CHW, NYY and BOS this year

1. Detroit 3.68
2. Oakland 4.13
...
5. New York 4.36
....
9. Chicago 4.59
...
11. Boston 4.77Wow you're the man

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Also when did anyone say dispute your claims about the A's staff being better than NYY or Boston?

[ct2k]

God damint I don't pay attention for a few days and the A's drop 2 games to the Royals.

double friggin header!!!

[The Miz]

Also when did anyone say dispute your claims about the A's staff being better than NYY or Boston?

VEL and at least one Yankee fan

[The Miz]

Wow you're the man

You're allowed to bring up old stuff you were right about, but I'm not?

[The Miz]

and at least one Yankee fan

Actually I remember BCWWF saying something like "Even though Johnson and Pavano had mediocre seasons, they are veterans. Haren Harden and Blanton are not" :(

[ct2k]

Man as I think FakeRazor said a while back, I forget Carl Pavano is even a yankee

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

You're allowed to bring up old stuff you were right about, but I'm not?
Nah not when I am raging

Even now when I am not shitfaced, I really can't see anyone thinking Yankees or Red Sox had better pitching staffs than the A's. Maybe saying the White Sox before the season started I could see, since they where so sick last year but have feel off.

Also team ERA can be pretty skewed due to the outliers, could have a guy with an ERA of like 15.69 who has only pitched a couple of games really fucking it up. Not saying that is disproves your claim or anything, but I just don't like using Team ERA as a measuring stick really.

[The Miz]

That's true, team ERA isn't the best stat. I tried to get starter ERA because the debtae before the season was mainly about the rotations but MLB.com fucked up and I was too lazy to keep looking.

Alot of people thought Boston had the best rotation in the AL after Chicago before the season. I remember the general consensus by alot of writers was "Yankees have the hitting, Red Sox have the pitching." VEL was one guy who definately thought Boston had a better rotation than Oakland but that was more due to the fact that VEL could name probably 2 pitchers on the A's roster.

I thought the Red Sox pitching would be mediocre but I never would have thought they'd be 11 out of 14 in ERA.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I figured it would have been pretty dece with Schilling, Beckett, Wakefield, Clement and Wells

Schilling has been pretty good, Beckett is the most inconsistant pitcher I've ever seen, Wakefield pitched a bunch of games with a broken rib and still gave them a chance at least, Clement has lost his mind and Wells has knees that should belong to an 80 year old man. Everyone points them having a big payroll and how they hsould be able to get better pitching but it is kinda tough to get it. Hitting isn't a big deal, but pitching is tough to come by. That's why I think they are doing the right thing keeping all their young guys and letting them get beat up a little bit this season. It worked for the Tigers and I think the Red Sox young arms a bit further along than a lot of young Tiger pitchers where a few years ago.

This weekend was pretty the much season, if they played good they'd have a shot at the playoffs and if they blew it they'd be outta it. Pretty much can say they are out of the race right now, pretty annoying since that Abreu trade actually worked out for the Yankees too. I fucking hate New York

[ct2k]

I'm definitely not counting out Boston until its statistically impossible for them to do it, ALCS '04 nuf said

[FakeLaser]

I had a feeling Clement and Wells would be terrible. Wakefield is usually decent, he's just been hurt. I had a feeling Beckett would be a flop. Schilling has been decentish. It all makes for a mediocre staff. Another big problem of late is they're pitching to Javy Lopez, which hurts all of the starters.

The young guys have done pretty well, they should make for a pretty good rotation in the years to come. It's basically a transition year for the Sox in my eyes... not that they're giving up or anything, but yeah. I like how they've built a solid defensive infield with Lowell and Gonzalaz and they've got a lot of pretty good young guys. Right now the Yankees are a better team though. Boston Massacre Part 2.

If Randy Johnson was pitching well we'd have the best pitching in the AL. RJ, Moose and Wang have the potential to be the best top 3 in the AL, with Wright and Lidle as a decent enough back end. If you ask me only Detroit has a better rotation right now (and if Rogers keeps sucking then I don't know); Detroit and Minnesota if Liriano is healthy (though they could use another arm this year)... Oakland is pretty close or maybe even better when Harden is healthy (you could say the same about the Cubs with Wood and Prior though, as Harden looks to be headed down that path).

[ct2k]

Apparently Tom Glavine has some sort of blood clot in his pitching shoulder, could miss a start or two or could be out for the whole year, this could be pretty bad for the Mets come playoff time

[The Miz]

If Randy Johnson was pitching well we'd have the best pitching in the AL. RJ, Moose and Wang have the potential to be the best top 3 in the AL, with Wright and Lidle as a decent enough back end. If you ask me only Detroit has a better rotation right now (and if Rogers keeps sucking then I don't know); Detroit and Minnesota if Liriano is healthy (though they could use another arm this year)... Oakland is pretty close or maybe even better when Harden is healthy (you could say the same about the Cubs with Wood and Prior though, as Harden looks to be headed down that path).

That "if" is impossible, Johnson will never have a lower ERA than 4.50 the rest of his career. He's just not that good anymore.

A healthy Harden makes Oakland's rotation a gillion times better than New York's.

[ct2k]

use real numbers please Miz

[Lotus]

God damn Braves bullpen is pissing me off. Tyler whateverthefuckhislastnameis cost us today. His 24th walk in 30 innings? Shiiiiiiit. Braves should be 59-64. Oh well, not like they'll make the playoffs anyway.

[YOUR Hero]

I was just looking up some stats. I was surprised to see 50 players have already 70+ RBIs. 65 players have 125+ hits and 30 players have 25+ HRS.

[Triple A]

DEREK JETER

[MVP]

Fuck, Giambi hits a HR and Crisp might have hurt himself trying to catch it. :(

[Innovator]

I love that roid monkey

GIAMBI!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RBM]

Someone please kill the Yankees. Goddamit.

[FakeLaser]

YANKEES

[Loose Cannon]

Giambi is the fucking man. He's got his unshaven look, his greasy hair and his roids back. SLUGGER.

[YOUR Hero]

Giambi just missed a Grand Slam earlier too. All that cold damp air kept the ball in the park.

[Innovator]

That ball would have been gone at Yankee Stadium. Hit it right to the fence in right field.

[The Miz]

If New York holds on Boston will be 10 games under .500 vs. teams not named Baltimore or from the crap league

[The Miz]

rofl Keith Foulke

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

ugh Atleast its football season pretty soon :(

[Loose Cannon]

who would of thought Wells vs Lidle would of been the pitching duel of the series.

lol Foulke though

[Loose Cannon]

oh and I still an not sold on the Yankee staff. They are very inconsistent and without the run support behind them that they get, they are average at best. Sure they will pitch gems at times, but they scare me a lot in tight games. When you have a 7 run lead within the first 2 innings, it's kind of easy to settle in.

[Joey Slugs]

anyone else think that the Tigers are sort of in trouble this week?

[FakeLaser]

SWEEP

[The Miz]

Holy shit Ted Lilly punched John Gibbons in the face after he took him out in the 3rd inning. Lilly is definately gone. Embarassing year for Toronto

[The Miz]

There are alot of teams likely to make the playoffs in need of a starter, and Lilly is a better option that alot of #4 starters on those teams. Should be interesting where they deal him

[YOUR Hero]

I have to wonder about Gibbons. With Shea, I completely took Gibby's side because... well it's Hillenbrand. Now this. Not so sure if what you're claiming is the official story, they're being hush hush right now here. But what the fuck is Gibbons doing to provoke his players like this. Bad managing, that's what.

[The Miz]

Lilly is apparently about to give an interview. Uh-oh

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I figured the Blue Jays would have had a much better season, Gibbons is probably going to get the axe after this year

[The Miz]

I think JP Ricciardi deserves the blame for this season, he's lucky Gibbons is likely to be an easy scapegoat

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah true, I don't follow much in baseball outside of the Red Sox but it seems to me that they overpaid for some of their pick ups this offseason. I mean BJ Ryan has been really good but didn't he get something like 50+ mil? Same goes for AJ Burnett who had a history of injuries, and has kept up with that tradition.

[The Miz]

I don't mind the Ryan signing, yeah he's overpaid but they desperately needed a dominant closer. The Burnett, Molina, and Gaudin moves were alot more questionable.

[YOUR Hero]

Don't forget moving Bush to Milwaukee as well. Funny how so much ended up hinging on the Jays 3rd starter, Towers. His struggles just compounded the Jays weaknesses

[The Miz]

Overbay was a good pickup

[YOUR Hero]

New York Mets have a winner on their hand in Jeremy Barfield. Here's a guy that's not afraid to push his father down a flight of stairs.

Barfield taken to hospital after 18-year-old son shoves him down stairs


HOUSTON (AP) -- Former All-Star outfielder Jesse Barfield was taken to a hospital Sunday after he suffered a head injury when he was shoved down a flight of stairs by his 18-year-old son, the Houston Chronicle reported. Barfield, 46, was treated and released, but Jeremy Barfield was arrested shortly after 8 a.m., the newspaper reported.

The younger Barfield, a high school star outfielder drafted in the ninth round by the New York Mets (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/nym/) in June, was expected to be charged with a misdemeanor, said Lt. John Martin, a spokesman for the Harris County Sheriff's Department.
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[Gertner]

Yeah true, I don't follow much in baseball outside of the Red Sox but it seems to me that they overpaid for some of their pick ups this offseason. I mean BJ Ryan has been really good but didn't he get something like 50+ mil? Same goes for AJ Burnett who had a history of injuries, and has kept up with that tradition.

we didn't have a choice. The jays aren't the most attractive place to play.

I honestly shut my t.v off after seeing Gibbons and Lilly.

Gibbons needs to go.

[ct2k]

New York Mets have a winner on their hand in Jeremy Barfield. Here's a guy that's not afraid to push his father down a flight of stairs.

Barfield taken to hospital after 18-year-old son shoves him down stairs


HOUSTON (AP) -- Former All-Star outfielder Jesse Barfield was taken to a hospital Sunday after he suffered a head injury when he was shoved down a flight of stairs by his 18-year-old son, the Houston Chronicle reported. Barfield, 46, was treated and released, but Jeremy Barfield was arrested shortly after 8 a.m., the newspaper reported.

The younger Barfield, a high school star outfielder drafted in the ninth round by the New York Mets (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/nym/) in June, was expected to be charged with a misdemeanor, said Lt. John Martin, a spokesman for the Harris County Sheriff's Department.
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Whats he like the JR Rider of baseball?

Also, sweep:cool:

[The Outlaw]

No punches were thrown.

[Loose Cannon]

lol, I love how overblown stories get.

Jays pitcher Lilly used a grappling hook on manager Gibbons last night after Gibbons claimed his pitcher was being a homosexual for not throwing strikes.

[ct2k]

:rofl:

[MVP]

Really starting to miss the 2004 rotation of Pedro, Schilling, Lowe, Wakefield, and Arroyo right now. There's no telling if Pedro, Lowe, and Arroyo would still have good numbers pitching in the AL, but I'm willing to bet that they'd be better than Josh "5+ ERA" Beckett and Jason "5+ career ERA" Johnson. Good thing he's designated for assignment.

Lester's numbers were great the first few months after he was called up, but then he became human and his numbers fell. Even Papelbon has hit a slump with something like 3 BS in the past 2 weeks. I think his ERA is still below 1, but that really doesn't matter when his BS puts us another game back from the Yankees.

Even if we don't make the playoffs, which doesn't look good because the Yankees are absolutely dominant right now and it doesn't look like the White Sox and Twins are slipping either, hopefully Theo makes some moves this offseason to improve our rotation and bullpen without seriously affecting our offense. Schilling is supposed to retire this season, and I don't want Beckett as our staff ace the way he's pitching this season.

[The Miz]

If I was Esptein I would try as hard as possible to deal Manny to LAA for pitching this offseason. It won't be easy to deal him but I think that's the best case scenario for them

[OssMan]

METS GOT SHAWN GREEN NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Miz]

Bobby Crosby plays for like 2 days before getting injured again. AWESOME. He needs to borrow Tejada's roids

[OssMan]

mets game is awesome, delgado and pujols each have 2 home run and a grandslam

[DaveWadding]

METS GOT SHAWN GREEN NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MY GOD, I've never been happier to see one player leave a team in my life.

[RoXer]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=As_0Epji8YRssM1F_55bnr05nYcB?slug=ap-diamondbacks-metstrade&prov=ap&type=lgns



eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[RoXer]

:D :love: :heart:

Someone find me the dude's stats.

[RoXer]

:heart: :love: :D I don't even know his name and I don't car.

[OssMan]

Evan MacLane is a young left hander with a good change up

[DaveWadding]

:D :love: :heart:

Someone find me the dude's stats.

<TABLE class=storysm cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width=670 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD colSpan=22>Individual Pitching Stats</TD></TR><TR style="COLOR: #ffffff" align=middle bgColor=#282898><TD>Team</TD><TD>League</TD><TD>Level</TD><TD>W</TD><TD>L</TD><TD>ERA</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>GS</TD><TD>SV</TD><TD>IP</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>ER</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>HBP</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>TPA</TD><TD>BK</TD><TD>WP</TD><TD>STR%</TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD align=left>Binghamton Mets (http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/stats/team.php?id=505&bsort=avg_sort&psort=era_sort&bord=desc&pord=asc)</TD><TD>EL (http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/stats/pleague.php?id=113&psort=era_sort&pord=asc)</TD><TD>AA</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>4.64</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>33.0</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>17</TD><TD>17</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>.266 </TD><TD>134</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>--- </TD></TR><TR align=middle bgColor=#ebebeb><TD align=left>Norfolk Tides (http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/stats/team.php?id=568&bsort=avg_sort&psort=era_sort&bord=desc&pord=asc)</TD><TD>IL (http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/stats/pleague.php?id=117&psort=era_sort&pord=asc)</TD><TD>AAA</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>3.86</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>121.1</TD><TD>136</TD><TD>61</TD><TD>52</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>67</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>.285 </TD><TD>521</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>--- </TD></TR><TR style="COLOR: #ffffff" align=middle bgColor=#282898><TD>TOTALS</TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD>12</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>4.02 </TD><TD>26</TD><TD>26</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>154.1 </TD><TD>170</TD><TD>78</TD><TD>69</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>37</TD><TD>92</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>.281 </TD><TD>655</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>--- </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[OssMan]

Hope Shawn Green goes 0-50 with the Mets so we can designate him for assignment and sign Jose Lima or another hispanic player

[The Miz]

So is he going to be forced to change his name to Shawn Verde or something

[YOUR Hero]

Shawn Green was awesome as a Jay. Then he didn't want to re-sign with them. Then he had another good year or so and then... well then he got shitty.

[OssMan]

what happened to www.shawngreenstinks.com, that site rocked

[OssMan]

WOOO best game of the year, beltran walk off home run, yeyer

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>AssMan you are the most negative person ever. Mets could trade Milledge for Johan Santana or something and you'd be like "ugh why deal milledge i hope johan goes 1-20 with a 5 era"

Anyways, awesome day for Mets fans. Glavine could only miss a week, Mota looked good, the Carloses are awesome, and Green can help with our shoddy outfield (Arizona's paying for him so why not?)

great day</font> :)

[OssMan]

nah johan santana i would root for if we gave up milledge, i happen to hate shawn green and i know there is no point to this trade. floyd is gonna be off the DL soon and he'll start every day in LF, and everyone seems to think endy chavez cant start everyday so they'd play milledge in LF 4 days a week (and take him out in the 6th inning after 2 at bats every day like they always do for some reason) and put chavez in. Never should have traded Nady in the first place

[The Miz]

Maybe its because I just hit up the bong (this will get me cool points with The Hurricane), but I seriously cried laughing when Wily Mo Pena hit a lazy fly ball to Gettin-Figgy-With-It and it bounced off his glove and hit him in the chin. ROFL

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I went to one of my friends softball games tonight and this huge dyke (we were calling her the manmonth) hit 4 triples (2 times with the bases loaded) and had 13 rbi's in the game...it was probably the funniest night of my life

[Terra Ryzin]

nah johan santana i would root for if we gave up milledge, i happen to hate shawn green and i know there is no point to this trade. floyd is gonna be off the DL soon and he'll start every day in LF, and everyone seems to think endy chavez cant start everyday so they'd play milledge in LF 4 days a week (and take him out in the 6th inning after 2 at bats every day like they always do for some reason) and put chavez in. Never should have traded Nady in the first place


floyd hasnt been good all year even when healthy. they had to trade nady, with D sanchez gone they were in a pinch for a reliver, X was good but replacable. as for endy, i think he can start but i would rather have him coming off the bench. green is a solid vet that can produce in a strong lienup. didnt give up much of any value and d'backs are eating some of the salary(not sure on the numbers). so why not take a chance on someone who was once very very good, shit look at valentin! the key word here is DEPTH. besides beltran no outfeilders have been that great as an everyday, so stock up, play the hot hand

annnnnnnnnnd lets go mets!

[MVP]

I went to one of my friends softball games tonight and this huge dyke (we were calling her the manmonth) hit 4 triples (2 times with the bases loaded) and had 13 rbi's in the game...it was probably the funniest night of my life

Yeah every softball team has that fat chick, but usually she's terrible.

[MVP]

Also ROFL at that Chone Figgins little league catch.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Pedoria playing short tonight (wearing #64 lol) THE FUTURE

[ct2k]

wtf Adrian Beltre sucks, how the fuck did he single handedly beat us?

[The Miz]

Beltre has been pretty good since the ASB. He is still the worst player of all time, though

[ct2k]

Nah 2nd after Shon Figgins

[The Miz]

Jim "Manager of the Year" Leyland names one of the 5 worst hitting regulars in baseball his leadoff hitter. Sweet

[ct2k]

Manager of the year = Joe Torre

no bias

[mrslackalack]

wtf Adrian Beltre sucks, how the fuck did he single handedly beat us?

No idea, Beltre is certainly the one hit wonder of baseball, he had that one raw yr but has sucked the rest of the time. Many felt he had that year because he wanted a huge contract.

[ct2k]

That or roids, not that i'm incinuating anything

[FakeLaser]

Or both.

[ct2k]

Maybe he worked really hard in the offseason and doubled his muscle mass:y:

[The Miz]

Back from the DL, Chacin still as terrible as usual. 5 ER in 1.1 innings, I think that might have actually been better than his 5 rehab starts in AAA. So with no injury anymore what's your excuse now, Gertner?

[BCWWF]

Cuddy is Clutch

[MVP]

I want to send Theo a message on MySpace telling him to please trade Tavarez, k thx

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah this season is pretty much down the shitter unless something crazy happens anyway so whatever. Wily Mo hit another jack tonight though

[RoXer]

Yeah this season is pretty much down the shitter unless something crazy happens anyway so whatever.

wth You have like a month and a half left. Chill son.

[ct2k]

Gotta give the CWS credit for being where they are considering how average their rotation is, ridiculous run scoring, that can't get them through the playoffs though. Also Jim Thome = not MVP, purely because Dye and Konerko have been just as valuable to them, Crede's also been key. Ortiz is so gonna get it.

[Adder]

Chacin has an ERA of 7.something.

[ct2k]

Chacin has easily been the most talked about pitcher on these forums:wtf:

[Joey Slugs]

How about some love for Jermaine Dye for MVP?

37(3)/99(6)/.325(6)/.651(2)

[BCWWF]

Because he isn't on the Red Sox, silly.

[The Miz]

lol I like how now that the Red Sox are done ESPN has to create off-the-field stories about them. Like today IS MANNY INJURED OR IS MANNY BEING MANNY?!?! WHAT DOES BIG PAPI HAVE TO SAY ABOUT HIS DISGRUNTLED TEAMMATE? PLUS MORE FOOTAGE OF TERRELL OWENS RIDING A STATIONARY BIKE WOOOOO

[Joey Slugs]

Gotta give the CWS credit for being where they are considering how average their rotation is, ridiculous run scoring, that can't get them through the playoffs though. Also Jim Thome = not MVP, purely because Dye and Konerko have been just as valuable to them, Crede's also been key. Ortiz is so gonna get it.
Dye should get some love for AL MVP (as I have already posted) and Thome being hurt when we need him the most is going to suck. This has been a strange year for the Sox. At times, the pitching staff has shown flashes of greatness. Garland pitched a hell of a game today (the staff just can't get on a roll) and Jenks leads all of baseball in saves (36). Like you said, the offense is ridiculous right now and our defense is just as solid as it was last year (Rowand who? Anderson is the man in CF).

But what makes it so strange is the fact that no matter what as been said about the team, they are still 23 games over .500. They have the 3rd best record (75-52) in the AL and the 4th best record overall.

I don't want to say that the season will come down to this weekend with the Twins, but it is one of the most important series left this year (so important that it really should be all over ESPN, but of course will not be).

[BCWWF]

Slugs, you are forgetting that Boston still has a chance to get back into the race, which is pretty important FYI.

[The Miz]

But can they stay in the race if Manny continues to be Manny?

[Joey Slugs]

Slugs, you are forgetting that Boston still has a chance to get back into the race, which is pretty important FYI.

Sox/Twins this weekend is 10x more important than Boston/Seattle.

[The Miz]

No it's not. Konerko won't be Konerko. But Manny WILL be Manny. Something to think about.

[Joey Slugs]

BCWWF -

Care for an icon/title bet this weekend?

[Joey Slugs]

No it's not. Konerko won't be Konerko. But Manny WILL be Manny. Something to think about.

Maybe Manny can find a nice spot in the outfield to piss in between pitches this weekend.

[YOUR Hero]

Jays for the wildcard.

[YOUR Hero]

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PHOENIX (AP) -- Former major league slugger Albert Belle was sentenced to three months in jail and five years of supervised probation Thursday for stalking his ex-girlfriend.
The 39-year-old Belle pleaded guilty in July to one felony stalking count. He had initially been arrested and charged in February, then rearrested May 17 at his Scottsdale home after he again contacted the victim. He has been jailed since the second arrest, and received credit for time served only since he entered his plea.

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[MVP]

Did he carry his corked bat around when he stalked her?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol still complaining about SportsCenter

[The Miz]

No, Jason Grimsley hid it in a tunnel

[The Miz]

lol still complaining about SportsCenter

I'm not complaining, it's just funny that they have to go to "Plan B" when there are no Red Sox stories/Red Sox are out of it

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol There is a huge headline on the back of the Boston Hearld "ITS NOT MANNYS FAULT"

No shit?

[BCWWF]

Lol @ the T.O. coverage, I've noticed it but it never really hit me how much they show him on the stationary bike until Miz spoke up. Anyway, I just got digital cable so FSC and ESPNU have been more exciting than poker and little league.