MLB 2006 Season Thread

[Loose Cannon]

lol I like how now that the Red Sox are done ESPN has to create off-the-field stories about them. Like today IS MANNY INJURED OR IS MANNY BEING MANNY?!?! WHAT DOES BIG PAPI HAVE TO SAY ABOUT HIS DISGRUNTLED TEAMMATE? PLUS MORE FOOTAGE OF TERRELL OWENS RIDING A STATIONARY BIKE WOOOOO

ROFL. yea the Owens bike thing is hillarious.

[McLegend]

If the Phillies end up making the playoffs Ryan Howard has to be NL MVP.

[OssMan]

NL MVP is pujols

[Gertner]

Back from the DL, Chacin still as terrible as usual. 5 ER in 1.1 innings, I think that might have actually been better than his 5 rehab starts in AAA. So with no injury anymore what's your excuse now, Gertner?

first start after being on the dl for ages. give him another start . he'll be back

[Gertner]

Dye for MVP

[YOUR Hero]

LOL, nice dive Coco. :lol:

*(not)

[Joey Slugs]

Fan Interference :'(

[BCWWF]

Jason Bartlett game winning RBI, CLUTCH, MVP

[ct2k]

Twins overtake Chicago for the WC lead, they've got the potential to tear it up in the playoffs if Liriano, Santana and Radke are all healthy and doing what they've done this year.

[Joey Slugs]

They have a 1/2 game lead now. Let's not jump the gun here.

[ct2k]

Notice the word potential Joey:p

I think the Twins would do more in the postseason than Chicago as things stand, but there's a month to go so who knows, I can't see Detroit going all the way this time, I reckon it'll be between the WC and East winners when it comes down to it, assuming Detroit do win the Central. Although the A's are on a tear right now, 22 of 28 or something, they might finally do what they've been threatening to for a decade...

[Joey Slugs]

Although the A's are on a tear right now, 22 of 28 or something, they might finally do what they've been threatening to for a decade...

What? Win a playoff series? :lol:

[ct2k]

Yes! I wasn't referring to the WS don't you worry.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

What? Win a playoff series? :lol:
lol

Fucking Sox lost last night 6-0, pretty shitty defense mixed with no offense at all usually equals a "L"

[Loose Cannon]

Zito with 100. 4th A's pitcher to do so. :y:

[YOUR Hero]

Halladay and the Jays VS KC. So what happens? Well of course the Royals hit 2 early solo HRs... d'uh!

Lots of time left for the Jays to win this game, but come on!

[ct2k]

Nah man the Jays won't fall off

[McLegend]

Grand Slam Ryan Howard. Phils up 5-2 in the 5th

[Joey Slugs]

Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.

College Football starts this Thursday.

[Joey Slugs]

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[MVP]

Red Sox pitching gives up a HR to Beltre. Pretty much sums up how poor our pitching is right now.

[OssMan]

Grand Slam Ryan Howard. Phils up 5-2 in the 5thYeah

[BCWWF]

Nick Punto.

The Twins are playing White Sox of '05 ball right now. We are winning the close games and just getting all the breaks. This series definately isn't going to set the wildcard, I think it will come down to the last week, but if the Twins continue to play at this pace, even without Liriano, I think the Twins would be the best bet. Garza will only get better win more starts, as long as Radke doesn't break something he is very solid, and the bullpen is probably the best in baseball right now. Also, the batting order is good 1-9 right now, even the Tyner, White and Bartlett's are connecting. The only problem is if the starting pitching hits the wall before the break, with Garza being a rookie and Radke batting shoulder problems. It is going to be a fun last month though, as I am pretty sure the Tigers, Twins and Sox play each other quite a bit.

[OssMan]

Wow just realized how many whiteboys the Twins have who no one cares about

[The Miz]

Better than 987654 mediocre Latinos

[MVP]

Minnesota doesn't strike me as the first place Latinos wants to call home.

[BCWWF]

Why not?

[YOUR Hero]

I know it's cool to bash Beltre because his offensive numbers have nosedived, but he's not *that* bad.

[ct2k]

Saying they nosedived implies he was an offensive powerhouse, he was infact a one-year wonder.

And yeah he's not THAT bad, but come on what the fuck was that season all about?

[The Outlaw]

Ortiz with 99 stolen bases. Nice. ;)

[The Miz]

My gift to stima

http://www.japanesecentral.com/Siryoo/pictureclips/equipment/broom.jpg

[YOUR Hero]

Ortiz with 99 stolen bases. Nice. ;)

Hafner's got 108 and Dye's close behind Ortiz with 95.

[YOUR Hero]

...you know, these 3 guys don't get enough praise for their running game.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Ah atleast Ortiz hit a homerun

[Joey Slugs]

Yeah, but Dye is hitting .651 this year. Not bad.

[ct2k]

I know it's cool to bash Beltre because his offensive numbers have nosedived, but he's not *that* bad.


2003 - G 158, H 134, HR 23, RBI 80, TB 237, BA .240, OBP .290

2004 - G 156, H 200, HR 48, RBI 121, TB 376, BA .334, OBP .388

2005 - G 156, H 154, HR 19, RBI 87, TB 249, BA .255, OBP .303

:wtf:

[OssMan]

wow i love john maine so much. probably a fluke run though :foc:

[Fenix122]

Mets magic number is 20. :y:

[BCWWF]

ct2k, his 2005 numbers were better than those in 2003, what's your point?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

His numbers are pretty similar in 2003/2005. So 2004 was a fluke, pretty obvious what his point was.

[ct2k]

His numbers besides 2004 are incredibly average, 290 OBP? Come on. He has been better this year, but still, I don't get it. To me a fluke is Orlando Hernandez hitting a grand slam, Beltre must've had a season full of flukes:|

[The Miz]

Beltre has been that bad. He ranked 10th in both OBP and SLG last year out of 11 AL 3B, beating only Aaron Boone. This year he is currently ranked 9th in OBP behind Crede and Inge, who unlike Beltre, play stellar defense. He is one of the 2 or 3 worst third-basemen in the AL, offensively and defensively (thank god for Beltre third base is one of Figgins' 57 positions).

I don't think I have to bring up the kazillion dollar contract

[ct2k]

I bet he's fucking brilliant on triple play 2007 or whatever

[OssMan]

Little League World Series is like a game of kickball, someone hits a groundball to the left side and it is a base hit.

[OssMan]

wooo got tickets to last game of season nationals vs mets

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Little League World Series is like a game of kickball, someone hits a groundball to the left side and it is a base hit.
lol they are like 10

[Terra Ryzin]

haha denis leary and lenny bruce are pretty fuckin funny

http://www.veoh.com/videoDetails.html;jsessionid=DE956C1E52994D8AE0AA77E46197214E?v=e107067WHhNhRh4

lol

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

GABBARD FOR CY YOUNG

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

ROFL@that Red Sox clip though, first time I've heard it. I remember watching that game at the gym but it was only on closed captioned

[weather vane]

im getting pretty fuckin impatient with these Red Sox of mine

[Joey Slugs]

Marlins are 2 games out of the WC now. Damn.

[ct2k]

Joe Girardi:love:

[YOUR Hero]

I like how people bring up Beltre's contract as to why he sucks. LOL, if anything, it's why he rules.

[ct2k]

Nah he fuckin sucks Hero stop trying to be a non-conformist and get a life:rant:

[The Miz]

Yeah too bad nobody brings up him having some of the worst numbers among AL 3B

[ct2k]

tbh the only reason i'd heard of him before his big season was because he played for the Dodgers

[ct2k]

Carl Pavano is injured again:|

[YOUR Hero]

You guys understand what I'm saying right? -Beltre rules because he signed a monster contract when all he ever did was have one good year. You guys should look up to him as a hero, a role model.

[YOUR Hero]

Carl Pavano is injured again:|

How? Getting out of his hospital bed? :rofl:

No seriously, how this time?

[The Miz]

AJ Burnett is a bigger hero, for he got a huge contract without ever having a good year

[The Miz]

More slop from Mark Mulder. He lost his velocity and his mechanics, he might be done.

[Joey Slugs]

Delmon Young's first major league at bat and he gets plunked by Freddie Garcia.

Somewhere, the baseball gods are smiling.

[Dragon]

Pavano got in a car accident a couple weeks back supposedly and never told the team. He's pitched like 3 or 4 rehab starts since then but now supposedly he is hurting from the accident. I don't even know with him anymore.

I wonder what he is gonna do next, he's already fell on his ass and been out a couple months for that. I dont see how he can top that one to be honest though.

[YOUR Hero]

Delmon Young's first major league at bat and he gets plunked by Freddie Garcia.

Somewhere, the baseball gods are smiling.

Delmon Young shouldn't even be in the bigs. They should have held him back, why give him any sort of big league play this season considering his bat tossing antics from earlier this year.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Because he's good

[YOUR Hero]

So what. Fuck him.

[The Miz]

Obviously no assholes are allowed to play in MLB

Ty Cobb pistol-whipped a guy to death once, I don't see Hero starting a campaign to remove him from the Hall

[The Miz]

Mariners opening up a can of Halo ass. It's unfortunate for Figgins that there's only one position on the golf course when he starts playing this Ocotber.

Also ROFL @ Bonds robbing a homer. Never woulda thought I'd see that again

[RoXer]

It's unfortunate for Figgins that there's only one position on the golf course when he starts playing this Ocotber.


I am stealing that.

[ct2k]

Another loss for Boston:| I'm not gonna say they're done, but really, its gonna be ridiculously hard for them to get back in either race now.

[YOUR Hero]

I'm not saying he can never play in the Majors, but he should have been held back this year.

Glad to see Vlad killed a Mariner last night.

[Gertner]

Jays wasted a good start by King Gustav :(

[ct2k]

JAYS FOR WS CHAMPSIONS

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Another loss for Boston:| I'm not gonna say they're done, but really, its gonna be ridiculously hard for them to get back in either race now.
They are out of it, especially now with Ortiz and his heartbeat problems he has been having. If it that is like something real serious and he isn't going to play anymore the Red Sox are gonna be in some serious trouble next year too.

I heard they are trying push David Wells for a prospect or something, doubt there is much out there for him but if they can get anyone for a guy who is gonna retire why not?

[ct2k]

Its worth trying but i can't imagine anyone is gonna want Wells, not even us:|

[ct2k]

Actually one of the regular veteren-picker-uppers like Florida might go for it if he does well down the stretch...Or is he still injured? I've forgotten tbh:-\

[Jack Icon]

Go Yankees!
Jeter 4 MVP :)

[The Miz]

Joe Kennedy is either the luckiest pitcher of all time, or is insanely good at stranding runners. I can't think of another guy who actually had an ERA lower than his WHIP this far into the season

19 1/3 IP
3 ER
18 H
10 BB

1.40 ERA
1.45 WHIP

[ct2k]

What about P-P-Papelbon?

[OssMan]

What the fuck do I have to do to get MLB.tv mosaic to work seriously. The screens do not load

[DaveWadding]

I am seriously going to kill Dempster and Cedeno. They wasted a won game by virtue of pure suck.

[OssMan]

mets have a better record than tigers :eek:

[The Miz]

The Tigers play against major league baseball teams, though

[DaveWadding]

Okay, I'm REALLY going to kill Dempster... he is like a black hole of suck and Dusty keeps trotting him out there...maybe I should knock off Dusty while Im at it...

[Terra Ryzin]

oh man the mets are good

[OssMan]

holllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllly crap at play david wright just made.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol Red Sox lineup today

1. Youkilis (LF)
2. Cora (SS)
3. Loretta (DH)
4. Lowell (3B)
5. Kapler (CF)
6. Mirabelli (C)
7. Hinske (RF)
8. Pedoria (2B)
9. Pena (1B)

And they got crushed again, atleast Papelbon pitched another scoreless inning :-\

[The Miz]

A year ago I would've guessed that was the 2006 Pawtucket lineup :(

[YOUR Hero]

Ortiz sure is being selfish by not playing when the RedSox really need him. So much for being an MVP.

[Terra Ryzin]

holllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllly crap at play david wright just made.

amazin'

[The Miz]

The Red Sox are out of it regardless. Irregular heartbeat isn't exactly sprained ricng finger. I think the Red Sox would rather make sure their best player doesn't die than try to finish fewer than 10 games out

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

The Red Sox lineup is hilarious, Loretta the DH with Lowell batting clean up.

Injuries hit right at the worse time, they where playing pretty awful anyway, then they get hit with the injury bug. I was pretty wrong about Veritek though, I thought he wouldn't be that big of a loss because his offensive numbers where pretty shitty but the pitching has been pretty awful without him behind the plate.

I really don't know who I want to win now though, just aslong as it isn't the fucking Yankees.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Hey Stima, what's the deal with Craig Breslow?

MY first day of school today, and my Sports Marketing teacher was saying he's good friend with Breslow and he's gonna get him to come in as a guest speaker. But he was saying Breslow is getting screwed by the organization because he is never getting a good-sized chance at the bigs. He was saying he's like their top minor league pitcher too.

Dunno if he was just trashing the organization (he's a Yankee fan) or if he was sucking up about his friend...but I've never heard of the guy. Is Breslow really meant to be the real deal?</font>

[YOUR Hero]

The Red Sox are out of it regardless. Irregular heartbeat isn't exactly sprained ricng finger. I think the Red Sox would rather make sure their best player doesn't die than try to finish fewer than 10 games out

Ty Cobb would still play.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I dunno, he's up with the major league team right now but I've never really heard of him.

Scouting Report: Former Yale Baseball captain, Breslow's fastball tops out at 90 mph., but generally sits in high 80s. Also possesses a plus curveball and an average change. Can definitely fill in at the MLB level if needed.

[MVP]

I'd much rather see Ortiz healthy for next year than risk it and not even make the playoffs. Too bad Varitek isn't healthy right now, cause I really can't stand Javy Lopez striking out 2-3 times every game.

[OssMan]

Just got on Jerry Recco from WFAN :cool:

[Joey Slugs]

Jon Garland: 16-4

[ct2k]

I h8 Craig Monroe

Fuckin A-Rod is playing horrible right now, 0-7 yesterday, 1-17 in the Angels series or something crazy. Thankgod for Bobby Abreu, best trade ever.

[ct2k]

Also, Derek Jeter = still my choice for MVP....Him Dye or Morneau

[BCWWF]

It won't be Morneau, and not Dye if the Sox miss the playoffs. It'll probably be rediculous and be Vlad or something.

[BCWWF]

Also, I was going to post this last night, but what ever made the Yankees third and fourth starters so important? I would love to see ESPN.com have an article: Silva is struggling and Scott Baker might be out for season on ESPN.com, because no doubt Ching Ming Wang and Carl Pavano get that treatment.

[YOUR Hero]

I'd much rather see Ortiz healthy for next year than risk it and not even make the playoffs. Too bad Varitek isn't healthy right now, cause I really can't stand Javy Lopez striking out 2-3 times every game.

Worry about next year, next year. Make Ortiz play.

[ct2k]

Also, I was going to post this last night, but what ever made the Yankees third and fourth starters so important? I would love to see ESPN.com have an article: Silva is struggling and Scott Baker might be out for season on ESPN.com, because no doubt Ching Ming Wang and Carl Pavano get that treatment.

Wang is basically our ace right now though, he's been one of the key reasons we've been able to stay in and now takeover the race this year.

[Dragon]

Yup, A-Rod is like 1-for his last 23 or something like that. I don't even know what to think because the fans have been actually supporting him at home lately.

The good thing is that his defense has been solid lately. The thing that gets me mad the most is that he can't get a man in from 3rd with less than 2 outs, he can't get a long fly ball most of the time. I think he's second to last in the league behind Michael Cuddyer in that category, he could be last now. Just ridiculous though when a good game for him is not making a couple errors. People are happy when he only makes one out and doesn't ground into a double play which is ridiculous.

[Dragon]

Also, yesterdays game was ours to take but we get a glimpse of what life is without Mariano. Torre brought in Proctor for the save because Rivera pitched the earlier game, and Proctor proceeds to give up a 3 run home run.

Mo had a quick inning the first game so he could have went out in the night game. But Torre does weird stuff like that, I remember a week back or something he said he wouldn't use Mo in two innings again during the regular season and then the game that night he used him for two innings lol.

I dunno, the day Mariano calls it quits is gonna be a tough day for Yankees fans.

[ct2k]

We need a 1-2-3 punch like we had with Quantrill and Gordon in the bullpen, those guys were workhorses, Gordon was almost as lights-out as Rivera.

Villone has been solid for us this year, and tbh Proctor and Farnsworth have done a good job too, Myers is a great guy to have for the lefties too. It could be worse :-\

But I agree, Rivera only threw 14 pitches in game 1 so I dunno why he wanted to rest him so badly, he's thrown triple that number in outings before and done consecutive nights work.

[Dragon]

Yeah, our bullpen is really solid but they falter when they get overworked so much. I think Proctor, Villone and Farnsworth are in the top 4 or 5 in appearances which is crazy.

Proctor was lights out in the beginning of the year and then he got tired and was bad for about a month, he's been much better after the break and some rest. Villone has been solid all year but you can tell he's tired now which isn't good for the postseason. He pitches like 2-3 innings a couple times a week. Farnsworth has never been consistant this year so I don't know about him.

Mike Myers seems like a waste, a lot of the times I've seen him come in he walks/gives up a hit to a left-hander he's supposed to get out and then is taken out because that is all he can get out.

Torre's weakness is definitely in how he handles the bullpen.

[Dragon]

Also Jaret Wright doesn't help the pen by going 4-5 innings in his starts. He saw unchartered territory by going into the 7th yesterday lol

[ct2k]

I reckon right now pitching wise we're doin good, hopefully Pavano will get a few appearances and settle in before it comes down to the playoffs. But even if Pavano is rocky, having him, Lidle and Wright to choose from for 4th, maybe put one in the bullpen, that could be a lot worse.

[Dragon]

I think Pavano is done this year. He's been shut down for two weeks and by that time there won't be much minor league rehab starts. If he does come up he'll probably be put in the pen. Just have to hope he will suck it up and pitch next year without any injuries or soreness or falling on his ass haha.

We are lucky we have a decent enough lead to let Moose go on the DL and recover, hopefully he comes back rested and throwing like the beginning of this year.

[OssMan]

Who the fuck cares about the fucking yankees

[ct2k]

We're Yankee fans, are we supposed to talk about Baltimore or something?:rant:

[OssMan]

Why do you like the yankees

[Dragon]

what

[ct2k]

Why do you like the yankees

Been over this far too many times now:p

[ct2k]

A-Rod is currently 3/4, 2 RBI, HR, 2B, SB, 2RS

[MVP]

I think Pavano is done this year. He's been shut down for two weeks and by that time there won't be much minor league rehab starts. If he does come up he'll probably be put in the pen. Just have to hope he will suck it up and pitch next year without any injuries or soreness or falling on his ass haha.

We are lucky we have a decent enough lead to let Moose go on the DL and recover, hopefully he comes back rested and throwing like the beginning of this year.

LOL Pavano is Kerry Wood 2.0. Luckily for you guys Wang is having a breakout season.

[Joey Slugs]

I posted a topic in the forum questions and suggestions area asking for support for a "Headlines & Columns" sub-forum in sports.

Any thoughts?

[BCWWF]

I don't get it?

[Joey Slugs]

I don't get it?

Have people write columns for the different sports covered here.

They do it for wrestling when they post the same news in the forum anyways.

[RoXer]

nah

[BCWWF]

Doesn't sound appealing to me at all. There are plenty of professionals to provide me with meaningless opinions.

[Joey Slugs]

I was bored.

[The Miz]

Wells to SD. If they make the playoffs, Peavy/Young/Hensley/Wells is pretty good for the NL. They'll probably have to face NYM whose rotation stinks, probably lose but you can never count the team with the pitching advantage out.

[Dragon]

Did it say who the Sox got? I was looking at some rumors and some pretty decent propects from the Dodgers came up, wondering if SD gave up anyone decent.

[Dragon]

Also, lol @ Tavarez starting for the Sox tonight. I guess he is holding his own through one inning so far though.

[The Miz]

ESPN or any other reliable source hasn;t confired what Boston get. I saw Mark Bellhorn (LOL) and Termel Sledge on a few sites but that's probably just a rumor.

The earlier, more legit rumors were about a catcher named Geroge Kotteras, supposed to be one of the top 2 or 3 catching prospects in baseball. Dodgers offered Andy LaRoche who is an elite prospect. That would've been insane to give Little LaRoche up for one month of Wells.

[Dragon]

Yeah, heard Kotteras and LaRoche amongst some others. Also heard about Matt Kemp but I don't think that was even possible since I think he's on the 40-man roster for the Dodgers.

[The Miz]

Padres get:
SP David Wells

Red Sox get:
PTBNL (will be C George Kottaras)

Kottaras is on the 40 man so he can't officially be traded to them until after the season

[YOUR Hero]

Joey is you feel like writing an opinion column, go ahead. It would be interesting. I doubt there'd be enough actions for it to garner it's own forum, but yeah, doesn't mean you can't go ahead and do it regardless.

[Joey Slugs]

I'll go ahead and write come columns, the only problem is that people come in a post some pretty pointless topics and everything gets pushed down the line and it loses it's purpose.

[YOUR Hero]

I'll sticky it/them. Same thing goes for anyone else that feels like writting a column. Not just sports, but any subject, in any forum. People, let me know via PM when you post them so I don't miss it/them.

[The Miz]

Twins get:
DH/OF Phil Nevin

Cubs get:
PBNL

[BCWWF]

wtf, really?

[MVP]

Also, lol @ Tavarez starting for the Sox tonight. I guess he is holding his own through one inning so far though.

Figures it's one of the few games Halladay loses too. Pretty much killed my playoff chances in fantasy.

But hey, the Red Sox are still 8 games back from the Yankees...

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

PAPELBONNNNNNNNNN

[OssMan]

LOL check out cliff floyd say fuck you to an ump http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbUag-bllTo&mode=related&search=tpww

[YOUR Hero]

Alex Rios must feel a little bit like Jose Canseco.

[mrslackalack]

Man in a little over a season in a half Phil Nevins been on 4 clubs.

[Gertner]

lol poor rios

[Joey Slugs]

LOL check out cliff floyd say fuck you to an ump http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbUag-bllTo&mode=related&search=tpww

You never argue balls and strikes. :nono:

[BCWWF]

Halladay was HEATED

[The Miz]

Papelbon injured and possibly out for the season. I have no idea if overuse had anything to do with it, but pitching him 3 straight days when they're this far out of it is stupid.

[BCWWF]

I am about ready to count the Twins out, but it is so hard. Everytime I have thought so in the past, they weren't, and the White Sox haven't been playing any better either. But with Radke out 2-3 weeks with a stress fracture, Liriano's return not in sight yet, the bullpen giving up four runs tonight, Castillo out and Alexi Castilla already in the majors, it's going to be an interesting ending.

[YOUR Hero]

Papelbann's injury last night was odd. Overused? Yeah maybe. Gotta break those rookie records!

[ct2k]

Papelbon would be in the news all the time even if he was 0-9, 25 BS and 6.32 ERA, East coast bias and all

[FakeLaser]

I think if anyone put up numbers that bad they'd be in the news.

[FakeLaser]

Oh wait, Josh Towers.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wow Jon Lestor got diagnosed with Cancer, I talked to a few people and I guess its 50/50 treatable and all that. That's awful, he is only 22. I think he had a chance to develope into a really great pitcher down the road, but now he might not even have a life to live all, nevermind with baseball in it.

[ct2k]

Thats fuckin awful:n: Hope he recovers and gets back in action.

Where's the cancer?

[RoXer]

Yankees–Red Sox Rivalry Running Dangerously Low On Storylines
August 24, 2006 | Onion Sports

BOSTON—As the long-running Yankees–Red Sox rivalry nears the end of its 104th season, the popular feud that once provided fans with visceral, emotionally charged drama, larger-than-life heroes and villains, and compelling subplots carefully woven throughout its overarching story arc could only offer those who tuned in last weekend a series of five baseball contests between two American League East teams vying for first place.

"This rivalry has stayed fresh and unpredictable for a long time, and gave us a lot of memorable moments, like the trade of Babe Ruth, the heroics of Bucky Dent, and Curt Schilling's bloody sock, but lately it has resorted to using recycled content from its own history," ESPN analyst Buster Olney said, referring to this past weekend's devastating second-half Yankee sweep lifted directly from the 1978 season. "It has simply run its course."

The first 100 seasons of the rivalry were carefully crafted to build toward one defining moment, which occurred in the 2004 AL finale when the luckless but lovable Red Sox finally defeated the rich, cocky but undeniably talented Yankees in the ALCS before winning the World Series and ending the "Curse Of The Bambino" story thread that was written into the series in 1918. Experts, however, suggest that since that moment, the rivalry has struggled to regain the dramatic tension and nuanced conflict that was once intrinsic to meetings between the two teams.

"Plot points such as Wily Mo Pena's multi-hit game, Johnny Damon's much-heralded 'third return' to Fenway Park, and [Red Sox third-baseman] Mike Lowell's unlikely statistical dominance over Mike Mussina are simply not resonating with the fans the same way that Pedro Martinez grabbing Don Zimmer's head and throwing him to the ground once did," Peter Gammons said. "Fans are growing weary of having every game end the same exact way—the third and final out of the ninth inning being recorded."

"I guess the one big story you could take from this series is that Friday night's matchup, at nearly five hours, was the longest nine-inning game in major-league history," Gammons added. "And believe me, I felt every minute of it."

Sensing that things needed to be shaken up, the Yankees brought veteran Bobby Abreu onto the cast as a midseason replacement for right-fielder Gary Sheffield. However, while Sheffield was a central figure in many conflicts—including the 2004 episode in which he took a swing at a Red Sox fan in the right-field bleachers—the most noteworthy thing Abreu has done in his stint with the Yankees is double home the go-ahead run in Monday's victory.

"Some of the ideas for the subplots have potential, but the execution is all wrong," New York Daily News sports columnist Mike Lupica said. "For instance, in the game entitled 'Cory Lidle Earns His Pinstripes,' it would have been far more interesting if he cemented his place in Yankee lore by decking a Boston batter who was charging the mound, rather than simply pitching six quality scoreless innings en route to a tightly played, nine-inning victory."

"That's not what people tuned in to see," Lupica added.

Fans have called for increased production of serviceable storylines, saying they don't want their last memory of the Yankees-Red Sox rivalry to be the May 2006 incident in which Doug Mirabelli was escorted to Fenway Park by a Boston police car 14 minutes before game time so that the newly acquired backup catcher could make his Red Sox return and prevent passed balls during the first seven innings of a Tim Wakefield start.

"Before the final out of Monday's routine 1-2-3 ninth inning, I was waiting for some sort of disputed play at the plate, fistfight, bench-clearing brawl, fan interference, overturned home-run ruling, bad managerial decision, heroic walk-off hit by a virtually unknown role player, blatantly missed call, blood—something to talk about around the water cooler besides the events that occurred on the field of play and the game's final outcome," said Red Sox fan Tom Mizone. "If original scenarios like these stop occurring, there's nothing left but two major-league teams trying to win ballgames. Why would I want to see that? The pitching? The delicate balance of raw power, speed, and agility?"

"True fans of the series know those are no reasons to watch a Yankees-Red Sox game," he added.

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/52032

[RoXer]

Ken Griffey Jr. Diagnosed With Hamstring Cancer
August 24, 2006 | Onion Sports


CINCINNATI—Just days after the Reds centerfielder learned that his father Ken Sr. has prostate cancer and his mother Birdie would be undergoing surgery for colon cancer, a routine medical checkup Tuesday resulted in more bad news for Ken Griffey Jr., as doctors found a large malignant tumor on his right semitendinosus hamstring muscle. "This is the rarest and deadliest form of hamstring cancer," Reds trainer Mark Mann said. "The only way to eradicate the cancer is to go in and slice the three hamstring muscles completely in half and permanently remove them—as well as the three titanium screws holding them in place—from his leg." Next Wednesday, Griffey Jr. and Griffey Sr. are expected to become the first father-son duo to undergo chemotherapy together.

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/52040

[Dragon]

A-Rod getting back on track lately - 2 home runs Friday and 2 today. Hopefully he keeps it up.

Also, Torre has no sense of how to use the bullpen. We have a 7 run lead and he keeps putting Proctor (our 2nd best reliever and the most worked reliever) in these types of games. Ridiculous, our pen is gonna be shit in the postseason if this keeps up. It's especially stupid when the rosters have expanded and we brought up some relievers for just these situations.

[OssMan]

Ryan Howard 3 HR, Albert Pujols 3 HR

[The Miz]

Best part of this Red Sox collapse is that Mike Lowell has gone down with them, and the "Lowell for Gold Glove/Comeback Player" kids have finally shut up.

And Curt "Ace" Schilling with an ERA over 4 yeah man hes not done!!!!!

[BCWWF]

Can I just say something to Joey Slugs.

I know some people on these boards like to post from a dark basement, but some of us that post during the day are having trouble reading your font color. Can you do something about this? Make it a little lighter or something? YOUR Hero and I would really appreciate it.

[ct2k]

A-Rod :cool:

[RoXer]

2 E's for FIGGY

[The Miz]

I haven't watched any Angel games in a while until tonight, man he is god awful. He sucks at multiple positons but he is truly embarassing at 3B. Needs to work on the fundamentals they teach at the 10-12 years old level

[The Outlaw]

We get it. He is terrible.

[The Outlaw]

He shouldn't be in the big leagues. He sucks at 21 positions. He should be riding a garbage truck.

[RoXer]

Thats the thing, they don't get it.

Every commentator hails him as the greatest thing since sliced bread and any team would love to have him.

[OssMan]

Ramon Ortiz had a no hitter shutout going into the ninth, final line 8.2 IP 2H 1 ER :|

[Joey Slugs]

http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50520

First column is up.

[YOUR Hero]

I can't wait until Oakland trades for Chone Figgins.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

And Curt "Ace" Schilling with an ERA over 4 yeah man hes not done!!!!!lol He still had a pretty good season up until recently, but yeah you're right he does suck

Mike Lowell has 5 errors in 129 games, 17 HRs and .290 batting average, so I don't know what you are talking about there. I guess you are probably really happy the Red Sox kids have shut up or something though, since the Boston Red Sox really do bother you a lot for some reason. NEXT YEAR IS THE YEAR :shifty:

[ct2k]

Figgins was pretty bad last night yeah. Joe Morgan tried to blame the 'strange hop' but to me it just looked like Figgins' footwork and positioning was all wrong:-\

[BCWWF]

Joey Slugs, your font color is seriously impossible to read.

[ct2k]

Miz's aint much better yo

[Gertner]

hey miz, i missed Gustavo's game yesterday. How'd he pitch? :)

[ct2k]

I hear Chacin took his A-game out there, pity the Jays have been out of it for 2 months eh

[ct2k]

Also wtf happened to Vernon Wells? He looked like he was on for a 40/120 type season, his BA is still the hots so he can'tve slumped that much:-\

[BCWWF]

I can read everybody elses just fine, but Slugs I can't at all

[Gertner]

Also wtf happened to Vernon Wells? He looked like he was on for a 40/120 type season, his BA is still the hots so he can'tve slumped that much:-\

He never really slumped. I've always said he's peak was 35 hr and 100 rbi's

[YOUR Hero]

Jays for the WildCard.

[Gertner]

Chacin for Cy Young

[The Miz]

Mike Lowell has 5 errors in 129 games, 17 HRs and .290 batting average, so I don't know what you are talking about there. I guess you are probably really happy the Red Sox kids have shut up or something though, since the Boston Red Sox really do bother you a lot for some reason. NEXT YEAR IS THE YEAR :shifty:

Yeah man errors are an awesome way to determine the gold glove. Chavez is so much better than him its ridiculous, Lowell is definately above average but Chavez and Rolen are just in a league of their own, best defensive 3Bs since Mike Schmidt. Joe Crede is also better.

He had a nice offensive season but his numbers are not that of the other candidates. Jim Thome, Frank Thomas > Mike Lowell

[The Miz]

hey miz, i missed Gustavo's game yesterday. How'd he pitch? :)

Let's wait until Chacin has more than one good start. One good start against the Pawtucket Red Sox (no Ortiz or Manny) does not outweigh getting raped by Tampa Bay and Baltimore the first 3 months of the season.

[The Miz]

I can't wait until Oakland trades for Chone Figgins.

Their bench is thin, so you never know

[Gertner]

Let's wait until Chacin has more than one good start. One good start against the Pawtucket Red Sox (no Ortiz or Manny) does not outweigh getting raped by Tampa Bay and Baltimore the first 3 months of the season.

no runs in his last 10 + innings

[The Miz]

I love all your random comments that don't respond to my posts. Let me lay it out for you:

CHACIN HAS HAD ONE GOOD START. IT WAS AGAINST A SHITTY LINEUP WHO HAS STOPPED CARING.

You were wrong about Chacin being better than Blanton, wrong about Gaudin being shit, wrong about the Jays being more than a mediocre team. Just stop.

[YOUR Hero]

The Miz has scientology on his side.

[Gertner]

I love all your random comments that don't respond to my posts. Let me lay it out for you:

CHACIN HAS HAD ONE GOOD START. IT WAS AGAINST A SHITTY LINEUP WHO HAS STOPPED CARING.

You were wrong about Chacin being better than Blanton, wrong about Gaudin being shit, wrong about the Jays being more than a mediocre team. Just stop.

did u miss his start against the indians? i believe so. Now that chacin is healthy he'll continue to show why he's a better pitcher than Blanton

[The Miz]

"Continue" to show why? What the hell has he ever done in the past to show he was better than Blanton?

[RoXer]

He's doing this on purpse you know, Miz.

[RoXer]

He's "getting your goat"

[YOUR Hero]

Jays are the 8th best team in the AL right now. Which, as we all know, is the only league that counts. Therefore being #8 out of 30 is hardly mediocre. They will finish better than 8th to boot. They are spectacular.

[BCWWF]

That would be eight out of 14, not eight out of 30

[YOUR Hero]

There are 30 teams in MLB. The NL's 16 are all shit, therefore even a team like the KC Royals are #14 out of 30.

I'm glad we had this little talk.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah man errors are an awesome way to determine the gold glove. Alright way to take what I said out of context. Lowell is pretty amazing on the defensive side of the ball, saying that he could possibly be a Gold Glove canidate is not a ridiculous statement at all. I think hes a little bit better than Above Average, he is really good.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Will be pretty funny if the Jays are happy about ending up ahead of the Paw Sox for 2nd place in the AL East...Sweet losers attitude

[Joey Slugs]

How about some love for the above .500 Florida Marlins.

[ct2k]

Love indeed, it seems everyone loves the Marlins except people from Miami

[DominateR]

Hey Miz, what happened to your precious MARINERS yesterday, did they get PWN'D by DETROIT:-\ OH I AM SO SORRY--NOT!

But on the good side at least the Tig's will @ least equal their 85-77 record from 1993.

[ct2k]

I still think the Tigers will do a Seattle and bomb in the playoffs.

[YOUR Hero]

Tigers have good pitching, so.... well who ever knows.

[FakeLaser]

Ladies and gentleman, the AL's leading hitter:
http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/derek-jeter-xm-radio.JPG

[OssMan]

who cares

[FakeLaser]

Lots of people, including those writers who vote for the MVP.

[YOUR Hero]

Why does Gibbons keep pulling Halladay once he gets the lead? For the life of me, I can't understand this guy. IN Halladay's last 3or4 starts, the bullpen has blown the lead he fought all game to get. Oh, or Rios throws the ball into the stands after semi catching it, causing it to become a 2 run HR. I know wins aren't the true measure of a pitcher, but I feel for Halladay, because he's deserving of 20 win seasons. He's deserving of those traditional milestones.

I just want some middle relief!

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Why do people care about the MVP? If it comes down to say 2 guys, and "Guy A" wins it, and "Guy B" doesn't, it doesn't make "Guy B" anyless of a player. I really don't care about what a bunch of writers vote on, personal awards are pretty pointless in team sports anyway.

[YOUR Hero]

Nah kid

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Alright way to take what I said out of context. Lowell is pretty amazing on the defensive side of the ball, saying that he could possibly be a Gold Glove canidate is not a ridiculous statement at all. I think hes a little bit better than Above Average, he is really good.
Just checked out the stats since I hadn't looked yet, Lowell has .987 FPCT (.004 behind Chavez) with 53 more chances. Not saying this makes him a lock or something since it doesn't, but I still don't see how saying Lowell should get the Gold Glove is ridiculous.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I just noticed I am in a discussion about a Gold Glove while saying I don't care about the MVP lol, kinda weird

But like I said about the MVP is true about the Gold Glove, people aren't gonna think Chavez is miles ahead of Lowell or Crede if he wins or vice versa - so even that is kind of dumb now that I look at it.

[FakeLaser]

You're just saying all this because David Ortiz isn't going to win it again.

[The Miz]

It isn't even close. Chavez and Rolen are in a completely different class among third-basemen; they will go down as 2 of the greatest ever. Lowell is good but fielding percentage stats aren't going to tell you how good a guy is at turning a double play, how his range is, etc. All things that anyone could see Chavez > Lowell.

Fielding is not hitting, there still aren't any good metrics out there.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Nah I already stated I don't care if Ortiz even won it (pretty sure in this thread too) I don't think Ortiz would get enough votes to win even if he did have a monster season since he is a DH.

Actaully the only reason I'd wish Ortiz would win it is so a player from the Yankees couldn't. If Jeter does end up winning it though, hopefully he comes off his MVP season by leading the league in errors the next season.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Chavez and Rolen maybe 2 of the bests, but saying Lowell isn't a canidate for the Gold Glove this season is pretty dumb when he has been making pretty amazing plays this entire year.

[The Miz]

How can he be a candidate? There isn't a race.

[The Miz]

Tim Rattay is a candidate for greatest QB in 49ers history

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

uh what?

By "candidate" I just ment Lowell winning the Gold Glove would not be completely ridiculous.

[The Miz]

Yes, it would. If Player A is on a whole nother level than Player B, Player A should win, not Player B.

The race ended before the season started

[BCWWF]

Yahoo still has Mauer .2 points higher than Jeter. Man, he has sure dropped in the last month or two though.

Also, am I the only one who has never heard the Pittsburgh Pirates referred to as the Bucs? It is on the headline on ESPN.com right now, and while I was almost certain I could figure it out, I still had to check. Granted, it probably had more to do with fitting the headline in than anything else, but pirates are not bucaneers. Bucaneers were pirates, so were corsairs, technically, so is YOUR Hero for sharing his child porn collection, but I don't see ESPN running with that now do I?

[Dragon]

Yeah, Jeter went hitless the rest of the night and fell 2 points back again.

These Royals starters are dominating us this series so far lol. Something like 13 innings pitched - 1 ER in two games. Kind of ridiculous seeing how we scored 11 runs as soon as the starter was pulled yesterday.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Forgot to post this, the other night Tavarez started the game and pitched real well. He got a standing O as he walked back to the dugout and didn't tip his cap. I gotta admit that is gangsta move by him, I thought it was pretty funny

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Too bad he has been a terrible pitcher all season, and decided to randomly pitch good as a starter when the Red Sox are all but out of it

Figures the Red Sox would take 2 games from the White Sox now too

[OssMan]

Well its because he is not a clutch pitcher

[ct2k]

A commentator I will not name said a two-out RBI by Orlando Cabrera on sunday night was 'clutch'...I mean in like the 5th inning or something too:wtf:

Anyway, blanked by KC, could be worse...

[Joey Slugs]

Yahoo still has Mauer .2 points higher than Jeter. Man, he has sure dropped in the last month or two though.

Also, am I the only one who has never heard the Pittsburgh Pirates referred to as the Bucs? It is on the headline on ESPN.com right now, and while I was almost certain I could figure it out, I still had to check. Granted, it probably had more to do with fitting the headline in than anything else, but pirates are not bucaneers. Bucaneers were pirates, so were corsairs, technically, so is YOUR Hero for sharing his child porn collection, but I don't see ESPN running with that now do I?

Yes, I think you are the only one not to know that "Bucs" is a nickname for the Pirates.

[DominateR]

Too bad he has been a terrible pitcher all season, and decided to randomly pitch good as a starter when the Red Sox are all but out of it

Figures the Red Sox would take 2 games from the White Sox now too

Go BoSox! take another from CWS and then I have to hope that Minnesota doesn't get Steve Irwined by the Devil Rays (no offense to The Croc Hunter or his family intended) and hope that the Tig's will emerge from today's rain delayed-4-to-4-game-in-the-bottom-of-the-8th with a victory.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Shawn Green 6-for-8, 2 HR, 3 RBI in today's doubleheader</font> :cool:

[OssMan]

WTF i though game 2 was gonna be at 7:10

[Fenix122]

that's what i thought but it's the middle of the 8th right now

[DominateR]

tig's lose:'( again 5-4 in 10 innings your final folks. didn't do rselves any favors and we had a chance...dammit they r really pissing me off lately...losing every other game:mad: :nono:

:foc: detroit if this is how ur gonna play in sept. of all months...good god how much worse can it get

[The Miz]

Anibal Sanchez with the first no-hitter in forever. At least the Red Sox have Beckett. :shifty:

[Dragon]

Anibal Sanchez throws a no-hitter against the D-Backs, wow.

Is this the kid the Red Sox gave up in the Lowell/Beckett deal lol?

[The Outlaw]

Shawn Green 6-for-8, 2 HR, 3 RBI in today's doubleheader :cool:

See: Opponent. ;)

[BCWWF]

Yes, I think you are the only one not to know that "Bucs" is a nickname for the Pirates.

I don't know why you have to act like a smartass. "Bucs" and Pirates are similar terms, but not synonyms. Its not hard to determine who the "bucs" might possibly be, but that doesn't mean it is a widespread nickname. Apparently in Chicago thats what you call them, thanks for your response.

[Dragon]

I've heard it used quite a bit here as well

[Dragon]

Wow, I seriously don't know what goes through Joe Torre's mind sometimes when it comes to the bullpen. The pen is going to be dead when the playoffs come around.

Here we are with an 8-0 lead against the Royals and the most logical choice for Torre is to use our best available and most overworked bullpen guy in Scott Proctor, even though we have about 6 other relievers that don't pitch. With Mo down for a bit and Villone's arm ready to fall off I guess its Proctor's turn to again be used in every single game.

[BCWWF]

You need a Willie Eyre

[YOUR Hero]

Bucs = Pirates

[ct2k]

Hero = Einstein

[BCWWF]

If A leads to B and B leads to C, C does not neccessarily lead to A though YOUR Hero.

Therefore, Bucs = Pirates, but Pirates do not equal bucs (couldn't find the sign)

I just hate ESPN and it's western Canadian bias. Can we stop hearing about the goddamn Canucks already!

[Joey Slugs]

I don't know why you have to act like a smartass. "Bucs" and Pirates are similar terms, but not synonyms. Its not hard to determine who the "bucs" might possibly be, but that doesn't mean it is a widespread nickname. Apparently in Chicago thats what you call them, thanks for your response.
I'm not being a smartass here man. I'm just pointing out that - yes, people use the nickname "bucs" to reference the Pirates.

Just as "Carmines" is a nickname for the Red Sox or the "Fighting Showalters" is used for the Rangers. It's not a Chicago thing. Trust me.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I've heard of people calling them the Bucs but I've never heard of the other two things Slugs listed

[Loose Cannon]

Yanks need to grab 1st in the AL so they can play Oakland in the 1st round if the standings keep the way they are.

I don't want the Twins.

edit: Actually I think 1st plays the wildcard no matter what. And The Twins and the Tigers can't play each other in the 1st round, right? So it looks like the Twins eathier way.

[RoXer]

Harvey's Wallbangers.

[The Miz]

Who I would be most afraid of in playoffs

1. Minnesota (only if Liriano pitches)
2. New York
3. Oakland
4. Detroit

[Dragon]

The best thing that could happen is if Detroit gets knocked back to the wildcard so we face them first round. We have had no trouble with them at all this season. But it looks like it will be Minnesota, does anyone know the word on Liriano? Has he started throwing and stuff yet?

[FakeLaser]

He's pitching a simulated game (like 60-80 pitches) today I think.

[YOUR Hero]

Liriano is close to being back.

[OssMan]

REYES inside the park homerun!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The Magic Number is 7 :love:

I'm so fucking pumped. First time in my lifetime that I'll get to see the Mets clinch</font> :D

[BCWWF]

Radke could be back in the next week or two as well. He was originally expected to be out 2-3 weeks, and if he is physically capable I think he will pitch.

[YOUR Hero]

If Ryan Howard gets to 62 HRs, does he go down in history as the first man to pass Maris' record 'drug-free?' Does he get an asterisk?

[YOUR Hero]

He got 2 tonight to give him 56. He's hit 13 in his last 16 games.

[BCWWF]

Is there a reason why Howard is a bona-fide clean player? MLB's apparent crackdown has been a joke, so I don't see why Howard is automatically percieved as the first "clean" player to do it.

Another thing, I just saw a column on ESPN.com that said the Yankees will go far in the playoffs because they have good pitching. It then went on to show statistics with the Yankees team ERA being fourth of the five AL playoff contenders, and made a bunch of other rediculous claims. One being that the Twins can't/won't make the playoffs without Liriano. Umm...that argument really hasn't held up. It also implied that Brad Radke was a burden, ok guy. What would compel you to write that the Yankees pitching gives them an advantage in the AL playoffs?

[ct2k]

Radke's not exactly been Mr Consistency through the years but he's been great for the Twins this season and I sure as hell don't wanna face Santana/Liriano/Radke in the first round:|