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ClockShot
09-03-2010, 04:29 PM
7 in a row.

Innovator
09-03-2010, 04:44 PM
For Vito, from deadspin:

So I'm settling into my seat on a VERY inexpensive Jetblue flight to Chicago to see the Mets in Wrigley when I notice the flight attendant having a hard time closing the overhead compartment because of someone's bag. After she sheepishly looks around for the culprit—he identifies himself. Since everyone was already seated and ready to fly, the apparently inconsiderate passenger was on stage for all to see. It was none other than Omar Minaya himself. What I didn't say before is that this flight is CRAWLING with Mets fans making the pligramage to Wrigely. At once the plane is abuzz. One young man in 18A shouts out "I woulda traded frenchy three months ago" another says "Better live it up, this is probably your last flight to chicago as GM". Delighted by the impromptu celebrity roast I chimed in with "I bet they flew Mike Jacobs in business class, at least". We all laughed in unison—he sat down and put his headphones on, a defeated man.

Evil Vito
09-03-2010, 05:07 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Amazing.</font> :lol:

ClockShot
09-03-2010, 05:44 PM
:rofl:

Flying on a JetBlue flight. What, he ain't getting paid enough to fly first class, let along use the company jet?

MVP
09-03-2010, 11:50 PM
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Not used to seeing Tito without several layers on.

Skippord
09-04-2010, 12:43 AM
that picture is freaking me out right now

DaveWadding
09-04-2010, 01:20 AM
Can't believe that Adam LaRoche owns the record for RBI in a season by a D'Backs first baseman with 89.

RP
09-04-2010, 02:19 PM
Zambrano is dealing again. I dont know what has gotten into this guy, but before todays game, in the last 5 starts, he's had 1.90 era, 3 wins. He's quietly been one of the best pitchers in baseball since he's returned to the rotation.

Nervous Ferret
09-04-2010, 03:32 PM
LOL@ Bautista

DaveWadding
09-04-2010, 04:03 PM
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Emperor Smeat
09-04-2010, 10:22 PM
:-\
Battle of the Sox ends in a sweep of the double-header by the White Sox. Red Sox haven't been swept in a double header in years but the pitching was decent today. The offense and hitting was almost non-existent in both games.

NESN had the stat of last time Red Sox hit this bad in a double-header was in 1976.

They defiantly "gave up" on the season after loosing 2 of 3 to the Rays earlier in the week.

OssMan
09-05-2010, 12:12 AM
Why were they so defiant when they gave up on the season

Emperor Smeat
09-05-2010, 02:21 AM
They didn't just give up and start throwing games or lack of trying to win games but based on how Tito's post-game press conferences have been, the team is starting to lose the mental focus on winning.

In one week, the Red Sox went from 4.5 games back of the Rays and Yankees to 8 games back of the Yankees and 7.5 games back of the Rays.

They only have 9 games left against either team (3 for Rays, 6 for Yankees) to make up any real ground since the couple of weeks before, the Red Sox would lose or win same time both teams lost or won and couldn't make up any ground.

OssMan
09-05-2010, 10:17 AM
what were they defying

Aguakate
09-05-2010, 01:57 PM
Bautista's season reminds me so much of Luis Gonzalez's 57 Home Run campaign of 2001...

...both are ridiculous.

Talk to me about Ryan Howard or Albert Pujols hitting 40 Home Runs...

...DON'T talk to me about Jose Bautista hitting 40. I'm not buying it.

We'll know next season for sure if something was going on this year, or he just really became good overnight.

Aguakate
09-05-2010, 02:05 PM
LOL@ Bautista

Those who "comment" privately are wussies.

Let's talk in public.

Bautista's season is fishy...AND?

Nervous Ferret
09-05-2010, 02:18 PM
That post was from when Bautista got ejected/Ked by JOBA on a ball a foot outside. I negatively rated you because I hate you. Terrible attitude to assume he is juicing just because

Bautista has "credited" his improvement to a complete overhaul of his swing + naturally taking a more aggressive attitude. Supposedly this all started later in the season last year and his numbers in September last season were also pretty off the charts. I dunno new swing/new hitting coach + more aggressive attitude in nature + the YOUR Hero "career year" theory


Nah you are prob right. He is a worthless juicing scumbag until he proves to me he can hit 40+ home runs every year for the next 5 years.

Aguakate
09-05-2010, 02:22 PM
...You can work on your swing, you can work on everything u want, but u don't go from 16 to 40+ Home Runs overnight. It's a work in progress.

OF COURSE he's going to credit his great season to working on his swing. What, u think he's gonna say "Man, Human Growth Hormone (or whatever other Performance Enhancer) really helps me!"?

But we'll see next season.

Nervous Ferret
09-05-2010, 02:25 PM
That is dumb. Let's say he does hit 40 home runs for the next 4 or 5 years. What is going to stop people like you from saying "Oh yeah well everyone knows he started juicing in 2010"

And if he goes back to 15-20 home runs a year, it will be "he just juiced for that season like Brady Anderson hahahaha"

Terrible attitude to assume he is juicing.


In cooler news I have tickets in the right field home run seats for Tuesdays game. AKA Cookie Crisp's 20th win.

Nervous Ferret
09-05-2010, 02:30 PM
ps u r ghey

Aguakate
09-05-2010, 02:31 PM
All I'm saying is let's see how he does next season. I'm not even talking about 4 or 5 years. Just NEXT season. That's it.

A year from now, let's have this discussion. If he has 35+ Home Runs, I probably was wrong. No big deal.

Hardkore Kidd J
09-05-2010, 05:24 PM
At what point does Papelbon get traded? How good is Daniel Bard? I mean 50 pitches from Papelbon? That is terrible.

Emperor Smeat
09-05-2010, 06:00 PM
At what point does Papelbon get traded? How good is Daniel Bard? I mean 50 pitches from Papelbon? That is terrible.

It has to be before 2012 when he becomes a free agent but technically this year was a "contract year" since he can claim arbitration on any deal for 2011 ($9.35 million as starting point). Most likely he's either gone during winter meetings or before trade deadline next season.

The owner also wants to trim payroll by about $10 million to lower the luxury tax the team pays and be at their more comfortable $130 - $140 million range for future signings. It can be done without getting rid of Papelbon since Mike Lowell and a few bullpen players probably are gone and easily save $10 - $20 million overall.

Only issue Bard has still is the tendency to give up a bad home run in critical situations. Unlike Paps, Bard still uses a set of different pitches so no issue of him tossing a fastball 99% of the time.

Hardkore Kidd J
09-05-2010, 06:37 PM
It has to be before 2012 when he becomes a free agent but technically this year was a "contract year" since he can claim arbitration on any deal for 2011 ($9.35 million as starting point). Most likely he's either gone during winter meetings or before trade deadline next season.

The owner also wants to trim payroll by about $10 million to lower the luxury tax the team pays and be at their more comfortable $130 - $140 million range for future signings. It can be done without getting rid of Papelbon since Mike Lowell and a few bullpen players probably are gone and easily save $10 - $20 million overall.

Only issue Bard has still is the tendency to give up a bad home run in critical situations. Unlike Paps, Bard still uses a set of different pitches so no issue of him tossing a fastball 99% of the time.

I still think the Red Sox might be able to get something good for Paps and Lowell. Lowell will probably be useful on a National League team somewhere and Papelbon is still good. Some team is bound to take him.

It's just a good thing that the Red Sox never traded Bard for someone.

Emperor Smeat
09-05-2010, 06:49 PM
They should be able to get something good from both players since before this season started Texas was willing to trade a catcher for Lowell. Most clubs are lacking in terms of a quality closer so Red Sox would be able to get something of equal value from Papelbon.

The only issues for Papelbon is the starting value of $9.35 that will go up since his stats are in the top 5 for the AL/MLB which makes him a big winner in future arbitration and the lack of pitches beyond overpowering the fastball.

Evil Vito
09-05-2010, 07:07 PM
<font color=goldenrod>The Mets scored 18 runs? Ruben Tejada with 5 RBIs? The fuck?</font>

Triple Naitch
09-05-2010, 07:15 PM
Pretty sure Lowell said he was retiring after this year.

MVP
09-05-2010, 09:26 PM
Lowell is retiring after this season. He has a bad hip and can barely leg out a double off a line drive to the green monster. If he continues to play he'll only be a DH, and probably would platoon on another team.

Aguakate
09-06-2010, 12:26 AM
So, The Yankees were on an 8 game winning streak since AROD got hurt and was out of the starting line-up...

...Today, AROD came back...and the winning streak ended.

Innovator
09-06-2010, 12:29 AM
And A-Rod is to blame for Hughes throwing a 90 straight fastball down the middle, or hanging a curve in the 1st?

Aguakate
09-06-2010, 12:31 AM
Nah...it's just, like...GEEZ...give AROD a break.

Foxsports.com even put up an article about this...it's just a coincidence.


http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Alex-Rodriguez-returns-but-Toronto-Blue-Jays-halt-New-York-Yankees-win-streak-090510

Legendary624
09-06-2010, 02:04 PM
10 Losses in a Row by the Padres. Christ. Who would have thought a few weeks ago that they would be fighting for a playoff spot entering the first full week of September.

YOUR Hero
09-06-2010, 03:06 PM
Aaron Hill and Adam Lind had breakout seasons last year and this year have swung at a lot of bad pitches. There numbers are not anything like last year. I guess they were on the juice last year, but not this year.

Supreme Olajuwon
09-06-2010, 03:14 PM
Hope the Rockies don't flip on the late season surge switch until after this series with the Reds.

Also hope noted gay rights advocate Carlos Gonzalez doesn't improve his stupid home/road splits. Some people prefer their MVPs to be able to hit in any ballpark (like international sex symbol Joe Votto).

Supreme Olajuwon
09-06-2010, 03:52 PM
Went to PNC Park on Saturday. That place is nice as fudge. Liked it a lot. Saw the shitty ass Pirates play the shitty ass Nationals but it was still fun. Shocked at how many Nats fans I saw.

YOUR Hero
09-06-2010, 05:01 PM
Rooting for Votto to be the MVP for obvious reasons. I think he'll get it if the batting avg. doesn't drop or have too much distance between himself and Gonzales (currently ahead) or Pujols(currently behind)

Skippord
09-06-2010, 05:16 PM
Hope the Rockies don't flip on the late season surge switch until after this series with the Reds.

Also hope noted gay rights advocate Carlos Gonzalez doesn't improve his stupid home/road splits. Some people prefer their MVPs to be able to hit in any ballpark (like international sex symbol Joe Votto).
338 implies that he can hit anywhere

much like he is doing to the Cincinnati Reds right now

Skippord
09-06-2010, 05:29 PM
also Eric Young Jr. says Aroldis Chapman is a bitch

Supreme Olajuwon
09-06-2010, 06:01 PM
Look at his home/road splits you stupid cantaloupe.

YOUR Hero
09-06-2010, 06:06 PM
lope/loupe

Hmmm.

Skippord
09-06-2010, 06:08 PM
look at Joey Votto's being a huge fag splits you foolish guava

YOUR Hero
09-06-2010, 06:09 PM
47, not 46 is the Blue Jay's HR record.

Supreme Olajuwon
09-06-2010, 07:48 PM
Carlos Gonzalez Home - .391 avg, 1.226 OPS, 24 HR, 64 RBI
Carlos Gonzalez Away - .288 avg, .760 OPS, 7 HR, 34 RBI

OVERRATED *clap clap clapclapclap*

McLegend
09-06-2010, 08:03 PM
Joey Votto strikes me as a weird guy.

YOUR Hero
09-06-2010, 08:21 PM
That's racist

Skippord
09-06-2010, 08:24 PM
what do his splits add up to

like a .341 batting average right?

and 97 RBI?

and 31 Home Runs?

yeah Carlos Gonzalez is better than your favorite player

Skippord
09-06-2010, 08:25 PM
and 22 stolen bases?

whoa man

Skippord
09-06-2010, 08:30 PM
I don't know about you guys but I'd like my MVP to not have "anxiety" issues

Supreme Olajuwon
09-06-2010, 08:36 PM
Yup he's the first guy to ever to get depressed when his dad died suddenly. Good call.

Idiot.

Skippord
09-06-2010, 08:39 PM
that might have been a touch too far

still though Carlos Gonzalez is better

ClockShot
09-06-2010, 08:40 PM
Rays and Red Sox get to go cannibal on each other for 3 games.

Red Sox final test, me thinks. They can get back into this, or get buried for the season.

Supreme Olajuwon
09-06-2010, 08:40 PM
Better at promoting the homosexual agenda, perhaps.

Skippord
09-06-2010, 08:41 PM
nah better at dominating other baseball teams

CYCLE

Damian Rey
09-07-2010, 12:16 AM
Considering I love baseball, I don't know why I never post here.

Anyways, I'm a Padres fan on the brink of suicide. I never thought we were as good as our record stated 10 days ago, but I never thought we could play this bad either.

Currently, we are up on the Dodgers 3 to 2. Please, God. Let this be the end of it.

And Skippord, I am terrified of your damn Rockies right now.

Damian Rey
09-07-2010, 01:15 AM
God almighty the losing streak is over. It's about fucking time Padres.

Skippord
09-07-2010, 03:54 AM
the Dodgers continue to fuck the Rockies over at every turn

RP
09-07-2010, 08:35 AM
I would love to see the Reds vs Rockies in the NLCS

Damian Rey
09-07-2010, 01:50 PM
I don't want anything to do with the Rockies come September. The Giants don't scare me at all. But the Rockies and their damn late season surges scare the piss out of me. If that offense continues to roll and their pitching staff keeps them in them in ballgames they're going to be a terror down the stretch.

RP
09-07-2010, 05:47 PM
cant wait to see Rocks vs Reds tonight

OssMan
09-07-2010, 06:32 PM
Went to PNC Park on Saturday. That place is nice as fudge. Liked it a lot. Saw the shitty ass Pirates play the shitty ass Nationals but it was still fun. Shocked at how many Nats fans I saw.
fuck yeah

Droford
09-07-2010, 08:00 PM
dont think Sabathia's gonna get #20 tonight vs the Os, especially if Nolan Reimold has anything to say about it.

Supreme Olajuwon
09-07-2010, 08:48 PM
Assman, are you still a part time Mets fan or no

Supreme Olajuwon
09-07-2010, 08:55 PM
Es CarGo, my car go 160 swiftly. Wreck it, buy a new one. Your crew run run run, your crew run run.

SammyG
09-07-2010, 09:22 PM
Keep losing, Dodgers. Anything to keep the Giants out of the playoffs.

RP
09-07-2010, 09:45 PM
Reds vs Rockies is everything i thought it would be so far


Fucking hell Cargo is amazing. Just jacked one on the first pitch he saw of the night.

Evil Vito
09-07-2010, 09:58 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Pretty nice debut from Dillon Gee</font>

Supreme Olajuwon
09-07-2010, 09:58 PM
Yeah Gonzalez is ridiculous.

Droford
09-07-2010, 10:07 PM
the yankees lose..thhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeee yankees lose

Get out the brooms for a sweep tomorrow at 1pm!

McLegend
09-07-2010, 10:52 PM
First place in the NL East

Supreme Olajuwon
09-07-2010, 11:02 PM
Trevor Hoffman gets his 600th save.

Nervous Ferret
09-08-2010, 12:57 AM
The Yankees always lose when I go. I am 1-6 over the lasy 3 years

Nervous Ferret
09-08-2010, 12:58 AM
last*

Holy lord @ CarGo. I traded Danny Haren for CarGo in fantasy a couple of months ago. He is singlehandedly winning me the league. Love him <33

Evil Vito
09-08-2010, 09:34 AM
<font color=goldenrod>lol holy shit. Bob Davidson went crazy yesterday. Ejected Ken Macha for arguing an interference call, Dave Duncan for yelling something about the strike zone fromk the dugout, Chris Dickerson after slamming is helmet down after striking out looking, and then a fan. :|

From what I've read, the fan didn't even do anything disruptive (throwing shit, what have you). He just yelled at Davidson all game so he had enough of it. That's bullshit.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=11838637

Can't imagine what Davidson's wife must go through with that short temper.</font>

YOUR Hero
09-08-2010, 09:48 AM
Vernon Wells loves Texas pitching.

Evil Vito
09-08-2010, 11:00 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Leave it up to the Mets to take a happy story and add controversy to it. The team visited the Walter Reed Army Medical Center in DC yesterday. 3 players no-showed: Beltran, Perez, and Castillo. Aka the 2 players every Met fan wants gone and a 3rd (Beltran) who is quickly losing support amongst Mets fans for his poor play and refusal to leave center field. Ugh.</font>

Cooler Tom Schuler
09-08-2010, 11:08 AM
Jim Thome has been completely absurd lately.

Droford
09-08-2010, 12:31 PM
The Yankees always lose when I go. I am 1-6 over the lasy 3 years

I hope you went today lol

Sweeping the Yankees would be awesome. Last Os 3 game sweep in NY was June 6-8 of 1986.

Os are 5-3 over their last 8 vs the Red Sox(1-2), Rays(2-1) and Yankees (2-0) and 21-13 under Showalter.

This has been the best August/September in a long time considering the Os usually completely fall apart at the end of the year.

Droford
09-08-2010, 03:53 PM
bah humbug

ClockShot
09-08-2010, 05:07 PM
bah humbug

:rofl:

Loose Cannon
09-08-2010, 05:14 PM
what happened, The Orioles lose? surprising

ClockShot
09-08-2010, 05:20 PM
Walk-off 2 run homer from Jolly ol' St. Nick.

But I gotta hand it to Buck Showalter, totally different team the O's are right now.

McLegend
09-08-2010, 08:17 PM
Ryan Howard is really good in the month of September

Snowden
09-08-2010, 08:19 PM
It pains me to say it, but I think the Phillies are the odds on favorites to win the NL this year...again.

Skippord
09-09-2010, 03:40 PM
fucking Jason Hammel

Skippord
09-09-2010, 05:57 PM
CHRIS NELSON!

YOUR Hero
09-10-2010, 09:47 AM
OMG Bautista hit another HR, when will this ever end?!

DaveWadding
09-10-2010, 03:47 PM
STER-OIDS

STER-OIDS

STER-OIDS

Evil Vito
09-10-2010, 07:24 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Santana's getting season-ending shoulder surgery. Whatevs, just as long as he's ready for Opening Day 2011.</font>

McLegend
09-10-2010, 07:36 PM
LOL who is playing Left Field for the Mets?

Droford
09-10-2010, 09:41 PM
OMG Bautista hit another HR, when will this ever end?!
He hit two more tonight to give him 46

RP
09-10-2010, 10:25 PM
Carlos Zambrano

Skippord
09-11-2010, 01:56 AM
TROY TUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULOWITZKIIIIIIIIII SHOW

Supreme Olajuwon
09-11-2010, 09:43 AM
Happy Pete Rose Day, everyone!

http://www.starslive365.com/images/PeteRose2.jpg

September 11th, 1985

YOUR Hero
09-11-2010, 11:57 AM
He hit two more tonight to give him 46

Now if the Jays could start winning consistantly again...

RP
09-11-2010, 12:33 PM
Bautista Bombs

Evil Vito
09-11-2010, 07:25 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Pelfrey is throwing a great game, allows a baserunner in the 8th. Jerry pulls him and Pelf keeps his back to Manuel the whole time before handing the ball to the reliever and not looking at Manuel once. Fucking loved that.

The FOX announcer tried to make a big deal out of it being disrespectful, but I loved it. The players know he's an idiot and will be gone after this year. And whaddya know, the decision to go to the pen nearly cost them the game.</font>

FakeLaser
09-13-2010, 08:22 PM
Why is Jose Bautista Black Jesus all of the sudden

ClockShot
09-13-2010, 09:54 PM
This Yanks/Rays game reminds me of that Yanks/Red Sox game when Burnett and Beckett were both solid and it took 15 innings.

ClockShot
09-13-2010, 10:39 PM
Fucking Rays.

Supreme Olajuwon
09-13-2010, 11:01 PM
Reds clinch their first winning season in 9 years. VICTORY

Damian Rey
09-14-2010, 12:10 AM
Padres decided to bring their bats to the ball park today. 6 to 4 victory over the red hot Rockies. Hopefully we don't get creamed tomorrow. Can't imagine Skippord is too happy right now.

Damian Rey
09-14-2010, 12:10 AM
Reds clinch their first winning season in 9 years. VICTORY

Congrats Supreme. I've always been a fan of the Reds. They're completely running away with the division right now. Cards don't seem to have any interest in making it a race to this point.

Skippord
09-14-2010, 12:11 AM
Nice work by Miguel Tejada, killed the Rox all game

unfortunately I saw this loss coming. ah well

Damian Rey
09-14-2010, 12:41 AM
Nice work by Miguel Tejada, killed the Rox all game

unfortunately I saw this loss coming. ah well

I've been at work so I only know what I've read via boxscore.

How could you expect a loss? Rox have always had the Padres' number, especially this year. Not to mention, Rox have been on fire this month, and the Pads just got done with a demoralizing series with the Giants in which they knocked out our staff ace after 4 innings.

I was honestly expecting to get shelled, and even with a great offensive showing and a nice job by the bullpen, I'm not expecting tonight to be the start of a trend. Padres seem intent on crumbling and handing over both the wild card and the division.

Skippord
09-14-2010, 12:55 AM
Mostly because Jeff Francis is always awful against the Padres and he hasn't been stretched out at all since he just got off the DL. Figured this would be the game they lose this series and that they'd hopefully win the other two.

Damian Rey
09-14-2010, 02:15 AM
Mostly because Jeff Francis is always awful against the Padres and he hasn't been stretched out at all since he just got off the DL. Figured this would be the game they lose this series and that they'd hopefully win the other two.

Got a feeling they'll win the next two. I hate sounding like I have no faith, but the Padres' offense is horrible. The pitching staff's earned run average over the 10 game losing streak was 5 plus. When you have an offense struggling to score 3 runs a game, that's not going to cut it.

Hopefully the picthing can keep the Rox to a minimum of 4 runs and the offense can manufacture some for the Padres. Otherwise it's going to be a long road trip.

Skippord
09-14-2010, 02:27 AM
I'm a bit worried about tomorrow since Jason Hammel is a mixed bag of pitching but I think the Rockies can hit Garland a little bit at least

Droford
09-14-2010, 02:29 AM
the os wont get season swept by the Jays! Yay..

/totally didnt watch the game so thats why they probably won

Supreme Olajuwon
09-14-2010, 08:03 AM
So who is the AL MVP this year? Cabrera would be an easy choice but he's on a floundering 3rd place team. Same with Beltre. Bautista would be a nice story but only two MVPs in MLB history have hit under .270 and one of them was Roger Maris in his 61 season. Hamilton might not be back until the postseason so he'd have to win based on his stats right now. Cano will lose votes because of A-Rod and Tex having more RBIs.

I guess right now I'd have to say Hamilton, but I don't say that with much confidence.

Triple Naitch
09-14-2010, 08:09 AM
I'd say Hamilton, with Cano second, and maybe Cabrera or Konerko third.

Innovator
09-14-2010, 09:37 AM
I wish George was still alive, someone's head would've rolled 4 games ago.

YOUR Hero
09-14-2010, 09:44 AM
So who is the AL MVP this year? Cabrera would be an easy choice but he's on a floundering 3rd place team. Same with Beltre. Bautista would be a nice story but only two MVPs in MLB history have hit under .270 and one of them was Roger Maris in his 61 season. Hamilton might not be back until the postseason so he'd have to win based on his stats right now. Cano will lose votes because of A-Rod and Tex having more RBIs.

I guess right now I'd have to say Hamilton, but I don't say that with much confidence.

I would not be surprised if Bautista won it *IF* he maintained his large HR lead and finished the season strong. Totally rooting for Hamilton myself.

Triple Naitch
09-14-2010, 10:54 AM
His average is too low for him to win but he'll definitely be top five.

ClockShot
09-14-2010, 11:17 AM
I wish George was still alive, someone's head would've rolled 4 games ago.

Pettitte gotta get back and fix this rotation ASAP.

Evil Vito
09-14-2010, 01:17 PM
So who is the AL MVP this year? Cabrera would be an easy choice but he's on a floundering 3rd place team. Same with Beltre. Bautista would be a nice story but only two MVPs in MLB history have hit under .270 and one of them was Roger Maris in his 61 season. Hamilton might not be back until the postseason so he'd have to win based on his stats right now. Cano will lose votes because of A-Rod and Tex having more RBIs.

I guess right now I'd have to say Hamilton, but I don't say that with much confidence.

<font color=goldenrod>Cabrera. I've always been a proponent that final standings shouldn't matter. My theory is that, yeah, the Tigers may be a floundering 3rd place team...but imagine where they'd be without him.

*is still bothered knowing that David Wright probably would have won the 2007 MVP had the gayass voters not picked Rollins because they made a comeback*</font> :mad:

Triple Naitch
09-14-2010, 02:59 PM
The Hank Aaron award should be reserved for the best offensive player. MVP is for the guy who was most important to a contending team's success.

Damian Rey
09-14-2010, 03:26 PM
I'm a bit worried about tomorrow since Jason Hammel is a mixed bag of pitching but I think the Rockies can hit Garland a little bit at least

Garland scares me in Coors. Groundball/sinker type guys don
t tend to have their ball break as well and lose movement in that ballpark. If he can keep the ball down I think they'll have a fighting chance.

Hoping the offense keeps up. Tejada has been the sparkplug they've needed him to be so now it's time for both Gonzalez and Ludwick to get it going. Especially Ludwick. He's been virtually nonexistent at the plate before last night.

Supreme Olajuwon
09-14-2010, 03:30 PM
Holliday was the MVP in 07, no question about it.

McLegend
09-14-2010, 08:13 PM
There is def a question about it, sir.

Emperor Smeat
09-14-2010, 09:20 PM
Looks like Selig realized how bad it was to have the World Series in November. Next season's schedule has the WS ending in October with the season itself starting a week earlier on March 30/31.

Sunday and Monday not given the traditional Opening Day spot for next year.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5573757

Droford
09-14-2010, 09:44 PM
Orioles are close to ending the Blue Jays HR per game streak at 14.

its 9-0 Os in the bottom of the 7th.

Whats even more amazing is the fact that the Os have a shot to win more games this year (currently 57-88) than they did last year (64-98), with a remote shot at 70 wins (they would need to go 13-4 the rest of the way). After the start they got off to (15-36 through May), that would be amazing.

Aguakate
09-14-2010, 10:15 PM
...The teams Buck Showalter manages usually become winning teams once he leaves after a couple of years...the guy knows what he's doing.

Innovator
09-14-2010, 10:18 PM
Bucky knows

Aguakate
09-14-2010, 10:30 PM
Wow, talk about a freefall...when u look at the Cardinals, they're a lifeless team...they look like they don't care...no spark in that team.

Tony LaRussa should not come back next season...he's lost that team...they don't relate to him anymore.

Have Big Mac take over.

Innovator
09-14-2010, 10:35 PM
JORGIE JUICED ONE

Nervous Ferret
09-14-2010, 10:38 PM
omg

Aguakate
09-14-2010, 10:40 PM
AROD has 23 Home Runs. How the mighty have fallen. AROD and Manny don't have 40 Home Runs COMBINED.

Loving the resurgence of Jim Thome, though.

Nervous Ferret
09-14-2010, 10:56 PM
Goddamn Greg Golson

I guess Carl Crawford didn't figure the kid had a gun

Innovator
09-14-2010, 11:12 PM
That's was a fucking laser

Aguakate
09-15-2010, 02:11 AM
Goddamn Greg Golson

I guess Carl Crawford didn't figure the kid had a gun

What a way to end the game. Awesome.

Supreme Olajuwon
09-15-2010, 08:21 AM
AROD has 23 Home Runs. How the mighty have fallen. AROD and Manny don't have 40 Home Runs COMBINED.

Loving the resurgence of Jim Thome, though.

Wait, so 23 homers and 107 rbis is a sign that the mighty have fallen

But 23 homers and 54 rbis is a sign of resurgence

is that right?

Nervous Ferret
09-15-2010, 08:38 AM
A-Rod also only has 450 ABs

OssMan
09-15-2010, 09:56 AM
AROD is also a huge faggot

YOUR Hero
09-15-2010, 10:00 AM
Orioles are close to ending the Blue Jays HR per game streak at 14.

its 9-0 Os in the bottom of the 7th.

Whats even more amazing is the fact that the Os have a shot to win more games this year (currently 57-88) than they did last year (64-98), with a remote shot at 70 wins (they would need to go 13-4 the rest of the way). After the start they got off to (15-36 through May), that would be amazing.

Aaron Hill :cool:

Jays have lost 6 of 7. Come on!

Damian Rey
09-15-2010, 11:58 AM
Padres continue to produce runs with timely hitting and have officially taken the series against the Rockies. I really hope this is the turn around I've been waiting for since the 10 game losing streak debacle.

Gotta hand it to the top of the lineup last night. The way they were approaching the plate looked like they were trying to sit back and stay inside the baseball and shoot it up the middle or the other way.

Ludwick had another multi hit game. Aaron Cunningham has looked solid in his two consecutive starts, and Miguel Tejada is playing like he's 35 again. Hope they can keep it up.

Skippord
09-15-2010, 05:13 PM
damn Tulo is not fucking around lately

Evil Vito
09-15-2010, 06:25 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Next year's gonna be weird as fuck. The regular season starts on a Friday and ends on a Wednesday.</font>

Droford
09-15-2010, 07:12 PM
Bautista #47

damnit

ClockShot
09-15-2010, 07:13 PM
PETTITTE RETURNS ON SUNDAY!

YAHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damian Rey
09-15-2010, 07:28 PM
damn Tulo is not fucking around lately

Fuck no he wasn't. That guy can absolutely rake. And not just in Coors. I love watching him play.

McLegend
09-15-2010, 09:25 PM
I'm a little concerened that Roy Halladay's right arm could fall off in the playoffs.

OssMan
09-15-2010, 09:58 PM
How was the Orioles game over at 9:15

YOUR Hero
09-15-2010, 10:30 PM
I'm a little concerened that Roy Halladay's right arm could fall off in the playoffs.

Nah, he's a horse

McLegend
09-15-2010, 10:33 PM
He is all ready looking a little worn down to me. He is probably going to finish with around 260 innings. I know he has hit that before, but he has never to had to pitch in the playoffs either. So I don't know.

I would like him to skip 2 starts by seasons end. So Phillies really have to bury the Nationals and Braves these next 2 series.

McLegend
09-15-2010, 10:46 PM
BOOM

3 games up

Damian Rey
09-15-2010, 11:40 PM
He is all ready looking a little worn down to me. He is probably going to finish with around 260 innings. I know he has hit that before, but he has never to had to pitch in the playoffs either. So I don't know.

I would like him to skip 2 starts by seasons end. So Phillies really have to bury the Nationals and Braves these next 2 series.

Isn't there anyone there that can make some spot starts? I'm sure he will be fine come October. He's going to be getting more than enough rest then. He'll pitch one game to open the series and then have at least close to regular rest for his second if the NLDS gets that far.

Vastardikai
09-16-2010, 03:35 AM
Someone give Derek Jeter an Oscar.

Only he could get a free base off of a foul tip.

Also, the whole "The umpire said I was hit, and I wasn't gonna argue with him." thing was fucking bullshit. He dropped his bat and was holding his arm. He knew exactly what he was doing.

YOUR Hero
09-16-2010, 09:36 AM
He's been hanging around ARod too long

Cooler Tom Schuler
09-16-2010, 09:37 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Next year's gonna be weird as fuck. The regular season starts on a Friday and ends on a Wednesday.</font>

The days of the week that the season starts and ends on have never been significant to me, so I will not be feeling that it is "weird as fuck".

I think it's weirder than fuck to have the World Series go into November, so I'm in favor of this.

Innovator
09-16-2010, 09:43 AM
You mean I can take a day off on Friday and go to opening day, wow that sucks.

McLegend
09-16-2010, 11:01 AM
Isn't there anyone there that can make some spot starts? I'm sure he will be fine come October. He's going to be getting more than enough rest then. He'll pitch one game to open the series and then have at least close to regular rest for his second if the NLDS gets that far.

Not yet there isn't anyone for spot starts since their lead isn't big enough.

Aguakate
09-16-2010, 01:34 PM
Wait, so 23 homers and 107 rbis is a sign that the mighty have fallen

But 23 homers and 54 rbis is a sign of resurgence

is that right?

Uhh...yeah.

Thome, who for the last couple of years had not been the Thome who hit 40+ Home Runs, has as many Home Runs as AROD and Manny combined and half as many RBI's.

Innovator
09-16-2010, 01:41 PM
ARod is fine, it's Jeter who you can make a case for.

Supreme Olajuwon
09-16-2010, 02:19 PM
Uhh...yeah.

Thome, who for the last couple of years had not been the Thome who hit 40+ Home Runs, has as many Home Runs as AROD and Manny combined and half as many RBI's.

What? A-Rod has 23 homers and 107 rbi by himself... that's not added to Manny's stats (which I don't know why A-Rod and Manny are comparable in this scenario at all, one is on the verge of retirement and the other is 3rd in the majors in rbis).

Not following your logic here, Water Kate.

Innovator
09-16-2010, 02:35 PM
kate do you call up Francesa?

RP
09-16-2010, 04:14 PM
Name one pitcher who has been better then Carlos Zambrano since the beginning of August.

McLegend
09-16-2010, 04:23 PM
Cole Hamels?

Supreme Olajuwon
09-16-2010, 04:40 PM
Hope Zambrano's success during these meaningless final months convinces the Cubs to hold on to him this offseason so he can revert to being a clubhouse cancer and sabotage another season next year.

Innovator
09-16-2010, 04:54 PM
Hope Zambrano's success during these meaningless final months convinces the Cubs to hold on to him this offseason so he can revert to being a clubhouse cancer and sabotage another season next year.
And that my friends is Free Agency.

Supreme Olajuwon
09-16-2010, 05:09 PM
LOL he's owed $37 million over the next 2 years. The Cubs could trade him but they'll get almost nothing in return.

RP
09-16-2010, 05:26 PM
Hope Zambrano's success during these meaningless final months convinces the Cubs to hold on to him this offseason so he can revert to being a clubhouse cancer and sabotage another season next year.

How can they trade him? Have you seen his contract?

RP
09-16-2010, 05:27 PM
Cole Hamels?

not even close

Supreme Olajuwon
09-16-2010, 05:30 PM
LOL he's owed $37 million over the next 2 years. The Cubs could trade him but they'll get almost nothing in return.

nope, I have not seen his contract

Triple Naitch
09-16-2010, 06:43 PM
He already said he is retiring when his contract is up, too.

Evil Vito
09-16-2010, 06:53 PM
The days of the week that the season starts and ends on have never been significant to me, so I will not be feeling that it is "weird as fuck".

I think it's weirder than fuck to have the World Series go into November, so I'm in favor of this.

<font color=goldenrod>I'm just so accustomed to taking off a Monday to watch Opening Day, hence why it'd feel weird for me. It being a Friday just works so much better though.</font> :cool:

Damian Rey
09-16-2010, 06:58 PM
He already said he is retiring when his contract is up, too.

Not to mention, he made his debut in 2001. Pretty sure he has 10/5 rights by now, which means he gets to veto any potential trade the Cubs may have lined up.

Supreme Olajuwon
09-16-2010, 07:30 PM
I thought 10/5 rights didn't kick in until exactly 10 years to the day of your debut. So Zambrano's wouldn't start until sometime in August of 2011.

Innovator
09-17-2010, 09:35 AM
For Vito:

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Cooler Tom Schuler
09-17-2010, 12:53 PM
Uhh...yeah.

Thome, who for the last couple of years had not been the Thome who hit 40+ Home Runs, has as many Home Runs as AROD and Manny combined and half as many RBI's.

What? A-Rod has 23 homers and 107 rbi by himself... that's not added to Manny's stats (which I don't know why A-Rod and Manny are comparable in this scenario at all, one is on the verge of retirement and the other is 3rd in the majors in rbis).

Not following your logic here, Water Kate.

Jim Thome's 23HR/57RBI are in 258 ABs.
Alex Rodriguez's 23HR/107RBI are in 463 ABs.

Supreme Olajuwon
09-17-2010, 02:50 PM
nobody is disparaging Jim Thome

calm down, Twins fan

Hanso Amore
09-17-2010, 03:16 PM
THe Blue Jays are the masters of random, no name players bursting out with huge HR and RBI seasons.

I bet Bautista goes the way of Adam Lind.

ClockShot
09-17-2010, 04:01 PM
Big news out of L.A.

Joe Torre to step down as Dodgers manager at the end of the season. Don Mattingly will take over for the 2011 campaign.

Hmmmmmm? Maybe Hal will bring him back if Girardi goes somewhere else?

Innovator
09-17-2010, 04:11 PM
No, Joe has to be done

ClockShot
09-17-2010, 04:21 PM
Yeah, I agree. But I'd still put money down some team will pick up the phone and call him up and ask. No doubt about it.

Aguakate
09-17-2010, 04:36 PM
These old managers have to slowly phase themselves out of the game. Managers who have been managing for years and years no longer relate to the young players coming up. That's what is happening in St Louis.

DaveWadding
09-17-2010, 04:41 PM
$10 says Jim Hendry is ringing up Torre, LaRussa and Girardi at the end of the year. But I'd rather have Ryno.

Aguakate
09-17-2010, 04:42 PM
If the Cubs don't put Ryne Sandberg as their manager, and he ends up going elsewhere, and wins, it'll be another Cubs blunder.

The ONLY guy the Cubs should have as manager is Sandberg. The guy has paid his dues.

Triple Naitch
09-17-2010, 04:43 PM
Wouldn't be surprised to see Torre go to St. Louis.

Aguakate
09-17-2010, 04:47 PM
...the last couple years, Joe Torre hasn't shown any passion. Everytime a camera cuts to the Dodger dugout, Torre looks like he's just sitting there and letting things just...happen.

The guy who lit a fire under Torre was Don Zimmer, he was always there to coach him through things, to give him advice, to hurry Torre along. Once Zimmer left New York, Torre I don't think has been the same.

Miotch
09-17-2010, 06:56 PM
This article inspired a conversation between a fellow Twins fan and myself about whether or not Minnesota will re-sign Jim Thome, who his suitors will be, and how much he'll get next year.

http://pinetarandpocketprotectors.wordpress.com/2010/09/16/was-jim-thome-the-best-off-season-signing/

It's quite the good read.

I'm guessing (completely arbitrarily, mind you) that we'll offer him about 6.5 for 1 year or 10 for 2 and not get the deal done because Tampa or some other team will offer him more money. I'm basing this on the fact that we have been paying Nick fucking Punto 4 mil a year for the last 2 years, and unless the Twins do the unthinkable and exercise their 5 mil option for punto next season, they'll have that money off the books.

What do you guys think will happen with Thome this offseason?

Innovator
09-17-2010, 10:05 PM
AN A BOMB!

Dragon
09-17-2010, 10:12 PM
Turned on the game just in time to see A-Rod's homerun. Pretty huge one; they definitely need this game to get back on track.

Skippord
09-17-2010, 10:33 PM
Tulo with yet another home run

Innovator
09-17-2010, 10:54 PM
How the mighty have fallen

Evil Vito
09-18-2010, 12:20 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Yeah I kinda think Torre is gonna just be a figure in an organization, not an actual manager anymore. Dude is 70 years old.

As soon as it was announced that he was leaving the Dodgers, I was prepared to give a Stone Cold Stunner to the first idiot who suggested the Mets go after him</font>

DaveWadding
09-18-2010, 01:46 AM
you know who would be a good manager for the Mets?

Joe Torre.

Cooler Tom Schuler
09-18-2010, 01:56 AM
This article inspired a conversation between a fellow Twins fan and myself about whether or not Minnesota will re-sign Jim Thome, who his suitors will be, and how much he'll get next year.

http://pinetarandpocketprotectors.wordpress.com/2010/09/16/was-jim-thome-the-best-off-season-signing/

It's quite the good read.

I'm guessing (completely arbitrarily, mind you) that we'll offer him about 6.5 for 1 year or 10 for 2 and not get the deal done because Tampa or some other team will offer him more money. I'm basing this on the fact that we have been paying Nick fucking Punto 4 mil a year for the last 2 years, and unless the Twins do the unthinkable and exercise their 5 mil option for punto next season, they'll have that money off the books.

What do you guys think will happen with Thome this offseason?

Keep in mind that Thome has stated in a couple of interviews that he'd prefer to stay in the midwest. I think that if he plays another year he'll likely remain in Minnesota.

Gardy loves Punto, that's been obvious over the years. I'll like him better when he quits playing (read: batting) and starts coaching. I'm sure he'd be well suited for that.

SammyG
09-18-2010, 04:55 AM
:( Torre

RP
09-18-2010, 08:05 AM
The Cubs will go get Jim Thome

Evil Vito
09-18-2010, 10:44 AM
you know who would be a good manager for the Mets?

Joe Torre.

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Droford
09-18-2010, 12:41 PM
AN A BOMB!

I cant believe the Os popped off fireworks for A-Rods homer.

ClockShot
09-18-2010, 04:18 PM
Rockies aquire Octavio Dotel from the Dodgers for a PTBNL.

Must be gearing up for that last minute push they've had the last couple seasons.

Emperor Smeat
09-18-2010, 04:51 PM
Royals celebrate 25th anniversary of their only World Series title with an interesting stat.

Since 1986, the Royals have lost the most games in MLB (16 more than the Pirates) and haven't been in the playoffs for the past 24 years. The 2nd worst team during those years managed to make it to the playoffs 3 times (the Pirates).

Only difference between the Royals and Pirates is the Royals managed to have more winning seasons even if none of them were enough for the playoffs.

Evil Vito
09-18-2010, 04:53 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Interesting move considering Dotel wouldn't even be eligible for the playoffs if the Rockies make it. If he ends up playing a huge role in the playoff run that would be almost like getting a major player injured. Even if you get into some complex situation where the Rockies try to use the loophole that a guy on the 60-day DL can be replaced by anybody, the replacement still had to be in the organization by August 31st.

Still not as big of a head scratcher as a few years ago when the Red Sox traded for Mike Stanton like 2 days before the playoffs.</font>

McLegend
09-18-2010, 04:56 PM
Can some explain to me why everyone wants Joe Giradi? Don't really see it.

Evil Vito
09-18-2010, 05:04 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Furthermore, I don't know why so many people think Girardi will leave. Why would you want to leave a perenniel WS contender? And it's not like the Yanks are gonna dump him if they don't win the WS. Even if they get knocked out in the first round that won't be enough to warrant totally getting rid of the guy a year after a WS win.</font>

McLegend
09-18-2010, 05:09 PM
Giradi leaving The Yankees makes no sense either. He'd be real dumb if he did.

Emperor Smeat
09-18-2010, 05:37 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Furthermore, I don't know why so many people think Girardi will leave. Why would you want to leave a perenniel WS contender? And it's not like the Yanks are gonna dump him if they don't win the WS. Even if they get knocked out in the first round that won't be enough to warrant totally getting rid of the guy a year after a WS win.</font>

Logically it makes no sense for him to leave since he's very good at working with young/inexperienced players but has some difficulty with veterans due to his tough style and workouts.

In Florida, the young players along with the fans and media loved him but the owner and veteran players disliked him. Mainly it was because of his confrontational style when given demands he think didn't help the team or interfered with his managing style.

The problem would be similar to why Randy Johnson and Joe Torre left the Yankees in the fact the media and crazier segment of the fanbase is too much to deal with year in and year out. Every big market team manager deals with this but in New York its magnified a lot more due to the huge sums of cash and tradition of every season must be worth a title or its a failure.

Evil Vito
09-18-2010, 05:37 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Holy shit Troy Tulowitzki</font>

Supreme Olajuwon
09-18-2010, 05:55 PM
Imagine if Troy's HGH worked throughout the year and not just in September.

McLegend
09-18-2010, 06:05 PM
Well then he would be Joey Votto.

Supreme Olajuwon
09-18-2010, 06:08 PM
:ROLL:

McLegend
09-18-2010, 06:11 PM
:LOL:

ClockShot
09-18-2010, 06:14 PM
I guess all the Girardi talk is because I think he's originally from Illinois and since the Cubs job opened up, people think he'll "go back home".

Keep in mind, guy got a Manager of the Year award with the Marlins and got himself another ring. THE ONLY way Girardi does not get retained next season(he's in the final year of his 3 year deal now), is if the Yankees collapse Mets style.

Skippord
09-18-2010, 07:02 PM
Tulo > Votto

YOUR Hero
09-18-2010, 07:22 PM
Bautista just popped one off to get to 49. (top of the 1st)

YOUR Hero
09-18-2010, 07:26 PM
Hopefully he gets to 55 or so

Evil Vito
09-19-2010, 02:06 PM
<font color=goldenrod>WOOOOOO. Joel Sherman, citing sources, says that Omar Minaya will be relieved of his duties as soon as the season ends. Jeff Wilpon is currently searching for his replacement. :love:

Hoping for Towers. Byrnes, Daniels, or Krivsky would be good too.

Whoever it is has gotta be somebody with an eye towards building for 2012. The 2010 payroll was $126 million. The 2011 payroll is already at $108 million and that doesn't include Reyes' $11 million option which will surely be picked up and big arbitration raises for Pagan, Pelfrey, and Dickey. So the 2011 Mets will in all likelihood match their payroll from this year without bringing anybody new in.

Hopefully the 2011 Mets can pull a Padres while planting the seeds for a good team in 2012. At least change should be forthcoming.</font>

Innovator
09-19-2010, 04:35 PM
Odds are that the Mets will get Steve Phillips again.

Vastardikai
09-19-2010, 07:13 PM
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/article_324aa4d7-ff34-5706-b12a-b1a023d58d00.html

A shitty way to go out. Fuck Cueto.

On the bright side, at least LaRue saved his money.

McLegend
09-19-2010, 10:30 PM
Phillies showwwwwww

Supreme Olajuwon
09-19-2010, 10:32 PM
Don't mess with Kung Fu Cueto

Snowden
09-19-2010, 11:57 PM
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Boomer
09-20-2010, 07:42 AM
Hell of a series of games between the Braves and Phils coming up. The Braves are probably gonna get trounced. Our starting pitchers are falling off like flies.

Evil Vito
09-20-2010, 11:41 AM
Odds are that the Mets will get Steve Phillips again.

<font color=goldenrod>I think that Wilpon himself could be the problem. There's a good chance that a lot of guys may not want to work for him. Then again, he will still give you the chance to work with a big payroll so who knows.

Imagine what a guy like Terry Ryan could do with financial backing. That would rule.</font>

Triple Naitch
09-20-2010, 12:17 PM
Remember what people used to say about Omar Minaya? "Just imagine what he could do with a big market team."

RP
09-20-2010, 01:11 PM
Fucking hell i'm glad Tyler Colvin is ok. That was crazy shit!

Evil Vito
09-20-2010, 01:14 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Omar really is a head-scratcher. His first 2 years with the team were extremely productive. He brought in some clubhouse leaders and assembled a killer bullpen in 2006 that helped to offset the very suspect rotation they had that year. When the Mets got knocked out in 2006, few predicted they'd fall as far as they did.

But after that year, he slowly jumped the shark. Outside of the Santana deal (which, despite the injuries, was clearly worth it since they would have been infinitely worse without him), just about every other deal was questionable. I can even forgive the Alou contract because he absolutely raked on the rare occasion he was healthy...but 2 years for El Duque? 4 years for Castillo? $36 million for Inconsistent Ollie?

Worst of all, his biggest issue is that he only seems to patch up one hole each offseason.</font>

Miotch
09-20-2010, 03:38 PM
Keep in mind that Thome has stated in a couple of interviews that he'd prefer to stay in the midwest. I think that if he plays another year he'll likely remain in Minnesota.

Gardy loves Punto, that's been obvious over the years. I'll like him better when he quits playing (read: batting) and starts coaching. I'm sure he'd be well suited for that.
Bringing back Punto isn't out of the question, but there's no way they pay him $5mil next year.

I hope to see Thome in a Twins uniform next year, and I think it's a better than 50/50 shot that we do.

We should hire on Punto as our 'hustle' coach.

McLegend
09-20-2010, 09:55 PM
90 wins!!!!

Cooler Tom Schuler
09-21-2010, 01:01 AM
Twins magic number is now 2, they can clinch the division tomorrow.

Evil Vito
09-21-2010, 09:38 PM
<font color=goldenrod>The Phillies are definitely going to the World Series again this year.</font> :(

McLegend
09-21-2010, 09:44 PM
Yeah this could come back to bite me in the ass hard. Like really hard, but I'm gonna do it anyway.

Phillies are the best team baseball and absolutely should be the favorite to win the World Series right now. No team in the National league really scares me. Also not really worried about any American League team this year.

Feeling pretty confident.

Triple Naitch
09-21-2010, 09:49 PM
I would never count out the Yankees. Learned that lesson hard too many times.

Nervous Ferret
09-21-2010, 09:49 PM
I feel like this entire season has been building towards a Yankees/Phillies rematch anyway. Way Easy to say now but I have definitely been feeling this since... march

McLegend
09-21-2010, 09:50 PM
I'm not counting them out, but I definitely don't think they are as good as The Phillies.

McLegend
09-21-2010, 09:55 PM
I feel like this entire season has been building towards a Yankees/Phillies rematch anyway. Way Easy to say now but I have definitely been feeling this since... march

Yeah and this year they have a really good Cole Hamels and then Roy Oswalt.

Halladay hopefully can have at least a similar postseason as Clifton Phifer Lee did last year. He of course will not duplicate it, because Cliff Lee was God like... Still though.

Nervous Ferret
09-21-2010, 09:57 PM
lol@ Phillies fans thinking they can beat the Yankees this year tho

McLegend
09-21-2010, 09:57 PM
I know right.

Evil Vito
09-21-2010, 10:05 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Honestly, Phillies/Yankees and Phillies/Rays feel the only realistic options, two matchups we've just seen.

Gonna be rooting for everybody not named the Phillies or Yankees.</font>

Cooler Tom Schuler
09-22-2010, 12:47 AM
Yeah, Minnesota is totally unrealistic. :roll:

Evil Vito
09-22-2010, 12:52 AM
<font color=goldenrod>I don't think I can really buy Minneosta until they actually get past the first round. Would love to see that though. Imagine if they get to the WS? November baseball in Minny, outdoors. Awesome.</font>

Cooler Tom Schuler
09-22-2010, 02:17 AM
Twins bullpen will crumble. Can you imagine Guerrier/Fuentes/CAPPS shutting down the Yanks in a close game, late? Nathan couldn't even do it last year

I doubt Guerrier/Fuentes will be put in those positions. Hell, I would be surprised if both of them were on the postseason roster.

Cooler Tom Schuler
09-22-2010, 02:43 AM
Interesting note, although the first weakness NerF points out is the Twins' bullpen, they have the best ERA in the AL.

Hardkore Kidd J
09-22-2010, 03:31 AM
WOOOOOO. Joel Sherman, citing sources, says that Omar Minaya will be relieved of his duties as soon as the season ends. Jeff Wilpon is currently searching for his replacement. :love:

Hoping for Towers. Byrnes, Daniels, or Krivsky would be good too.

Whoever it is has gotta be somebody with an eye towards building for 2012. The 2010 payroll was $126 million. The 2011 payroll is already at $108 million and that doesn't include Reyes' $11 million option which will surely be picked up and big arbitration raises for Pagan, Pelfrey, and Dickey. So the 2011 Mets will in all likelihood match their payroll from this year without bringing anybody new in.

Hopefully the 2011 Mets can pull a Padres while planting the seeds for a good team in 2012. At least change should be forthcoming.

How about Torre? Now that the Dodgers have decided to get rid of Torre and have Mattingly as the head coach. I have read a lot of stories about Torre maybe managing the Mets.

Nervous Ferret
09-22-2010, 05:21 AM
Interesting note, although the first weakness NerF points out is the Twins' bullpen, they have the best ERA in the AL.
You can throw out all the stats in October!!!

Nervous Ferret
09-22-2010, 05:26 AM
We could "talk baseball" or I could do the right thing and just assume the Yankees are the best ever and have no shot of losing/everything is right with the world when the Yankees are champs:o

ClockShot
09-22-2010, 07:24 AM
3 games to go.

ClockShot
09-22-2010, 07:26 AM
And it looks like the D-Backs are gonna steal Kevin Towers away from us and name him GM.

Bummer.

Innovator
09-22-2010, 07:28 AM
Rangers scare me in the ALDS

Supreme Olajuwon
09-22-2010, 07:53 AM
Game 7 ALCS: Carl Pavano vs. New York Yankees

wouldn't that just be a kick in the tits

Evil Vito
09-22-2010, 08:53 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Ugh, fuck. I wanted Towers.

Given the incompetence of the Mets organization, part of me almost thinks they are just gonna let Minaya stay for the final year of his contract since the new GM will have virtually no money to work with this first year.

Of course, with Minaya knowing he'll be on his way out soon, he'll probably make some ridiculously bad move trying to take the Mets down for the future.</font>

YOUR Hero
09-22-2010, 09:52 AM
Rangers scare me in the ALDS

If they can get healthy, watch out.

Hardkore Kidd J
09-22-2010, 11:48 AM
Rangers scare me in the ALDS

This is why I would rather face Minnesota. Let Tampa and Texas duke it out in the ALDS .

Cooler Tom Schuler
09-22-2010, 12:37 PM
White Sox fans are not happy...

Dear Minnesota Twins,

As a lifelong fan of the Chicago White Sox, I just had to get something off of my chest. First of all, and let me be absolutely clear about this: I do not envy your team. Despite getting the better of us this season, there is not a single piece or part of your franchise that I would wish for. New stadium? Congratulations, and it’s about time. That dome you played in for so many years was an absolute joke. No baseball game should ever be played indoors, and never on an artificial surface, period. Home-grown talent? Who cares. The goal is winning Championships, by whatever means. This nonsense about “doing it the right way” and NOT BUYING a World Series (like you all love to claim the Yankees do) is absolute bullshit. You have more than your fair share of Free Agent signings, and players acquired in trade, this season especially. Get over yourselves with this idea that somehow you develop talent better than anyone else. If you did, you wouldn’t have needed the likes of: Jim Thome, Orlando Hudson, JJ Hardy, Delmon Young, Matt Capps, and Brian Fuentes…just off the top of my head.

And, winning AL Central Divisions is great, but losing in the postseason makes you an “also ran” just like the rest of the teams that don’t claim the top prize. What good is a “deep farm system” if you don’t win a World Series? Do they have a trophy for best-run organization? If they do, they can keep it, because the idea that your club is somehow “better run” than any other is pure manure. You have exactly 0 (that’s a Zero) World Series Titles since 1991, that’s a fact. Your Manager, with each failed appearance in the postseason, continues to add to his well-earned reputation as most undeserving of respect, as he continues to set the bar for underachievement higher each season since taking over for Tom Kelly. At least that guy won something. Ron Gardenhire has done nada. The players? You can keep them all, each and every one of them. Including Joe Mauer, including Justin Morneau, and whoever else you’ve got. I wouldn’t trade a single one of mine, for any one of yours. Sound crazy? Maybe, but that’s what I feel a true fan should think. I have had a real eye-opening of late reading all of the comments from aloof, and ridiculously smug Twins fans on the comment boards this season. A more self-important group I have yet to encounter on the Internet. Preaching about how real fans are respectful of other teams, and how a rivalry should be conducted, and wishing each luck, and good health and the rest of it….for this sentiment, I have exactly 3 words to share: Go Fuck Yourselves, and you know who you are that I am speaking of. This “high and mighty” appearance of innocence, and decency is the biggest crock in all of fandom. Add to this the salty play that these “white hat wearing” Twins have displayed against our club this season, with the Delmon Young cheap shot thuggery at home plate, and the numerous “unintentional” hit batsmen during the season series, capped off by the high up and in tailing fastball by Carl Pavano that hit Paul Konerko in the face….that’s right folks, in the face! Add it all up, and my kettle hath just about boiled over.

Don’t be confused, this is not sour grapes, nor is it the rantings of an ill-informed fan on the short end of the Division stick, but it is simply my own personal “Declaration of Independence” from anything related to the Minnesota Twins. I respect your tradition of winning baseball. Anyone with 2 eyes can see that it is a quality, and competetive product that is on the field season after season, I just don’t care for it, and do not wish any part of it for my chosen team. Yours is not anything special to emulate, copy, or blueprint in any form or fashion. Unless it results in multiple World Series Titles, it is just another team like the other 29 fighting to deliver to its fans, the Holy Grail of Baseball. Find that Grail, Twins, then we’ll talk…until then, there is nothing else to say. Picture this image each time you see my name…



Sincerely, WhiteSoxLifer

Oh, and PS- I will be rooting AGAINST your team this postseason (as usual). CWSWSC+ 5 years, and counting…but at least it isn’t since 1991. Someone posted that we will be reduced to watching the tape of our ’05 World Series after we were eliminated from contention this season, and I thought to myself…True, I will, but at least I will be able to watch the DVD that I own. I wonder, did they even have VHS in 1991, or was it still called Beta? Glad I don’t need to care that it’s been since Gulf War I….aka, fast becoming ancient history since the last…

Triple Naitch
09-22-2010, 01:12 PM
Ugh. Sometimes I really hate sports fans.

DaveWadding
09-22-2010, 02:15 PM
White Sox fans are a bunch of scum anyways.

Emperor Smeat
09-22-2010, 03:38 PM
Pretty stupid letter since its not Minnesota is winning because they are a small market or have a low payroll, instead they studied and did Moneyball much better than the White Sox except for the year the White Sox won the title.

:lol: at the part about multiple World Series titles since Wikipedia has both teams tied at 3 titles each so its not like the White Sox are the "kings" of the AL Central.

Emperor Smeat
09-22-2010, 04:57 PM
K-Rod back in court today after being a dumbass with previous court orders to stop texting his girlfriend.

Originally the judge told him to stop texting even though she had a restraining order against him and he was texting as recent as the day of the 1st court apperance. The judge at the time gave him a break by saying no more texts or contacts starting once he left the courtroom.

Now he gets charged with criminal contempt for violating the court's order on top of the previous charges he was facing. Also had to pay $7500 for bail and could face up to a year in jail just for this new charge.

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5603551

Cooler Tom Schuler
09-22-2010, 05:25 PM
Minnesota rested most of the lineup today- beat Cleveland 5-1.