MLB 2010 Season Thread

[Innovator]

Well, congats Texas, definitely the better team.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Lee said he would 100% re-sign with the Rangers if they won the WS. Even if they don't I honestly think it'd be hard for him to leave after this. Rangers won't offer him quite as much as the Yanks, but he should still see close to a 9-figure salary to stick around on a contender.

I also think he may have too much fun beating on the Yanks to make a heel turn and join them. I've thought that in the past with guys like Damon and such but this just feels a bit different.</font>

[OssMan]

Kinda sucks that rooting against the #1 bandwagon team in all of sports meant that you had to side with Cowboys fans, which wasn't that bad until they played that retarded Texas song after the game ended. And I don't see how Lee signing with the Yankees would be worse than Damon, that guy played for their hated rival and was involved in the greatest comeback of all time against them and then went in front of the whole world and lied by saying "I can't see myself ever playing for the Yankees" when that is exactly what he did. Cliff Lee for the last few years has just been the guy that any team will pay a ton of money for just to have him dominate the second half of the season, I don't see why he wouldn't take all the money the Yankees are gonna throw at him.

[James Steele]

Kinda sucks that rooting against the #1 bandwagon team in all of sports meant that you had to side with Cowboys fans, which wasn't that bad until they played that retarded Texas song after the game ended. And I don't see how Lee signing with the Yankees would be worse than Damon, that guy played for their hated rival and was involved in the greatest comeback of all time against them and then went in front of the whole world and lied by saying "I can't see myself ever playing for the Yankees" when that is exactly what he did. Cliff Lee for the last few years has just been the guy that any team will pay a ton of money for just to have him dominate the second half of the season, I don't see why he wouldn't take all the money the Yankees are gonna throw at him.

Kinda like that stupid New York song the Yankees play?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Kinda like that stupid New York song the Yankees play?

You mean "New York New York" by the Chairman of the fucking board Frank Sinatra?

Congrats your team won, but you just called Frank Sinatra stupid? Really? Come on!

Fuck the Yankees, woooooo! The true kings of the AL East in the 21st century remain the Red Sox with two world series rings to 1 for the Yankees!

[ClockShot]

*yawns*

Well, that didn't go over well. Whatever. There's always next year.

Offseason is sure gonna be fun.

[Triple Naitch]

The one bad thing about when the Yankees lose is you know that they are gonna re-load this offseason. Carl Crawford, Jayson Werth, and Clifton Phiefer may all be wearing pinstripes next year.

[ClockShot]

Cliff Lee is obviously our primary target this offseason, along with about 5-6 other things that must be addressed on our to do list.

I see no reason to bring aboard Crawford or Werth.

[Triple Naitch]

Just simple upgrades. The Yankees didn't necessarily need Mark Teixeira two years ago but saw the chance to upgrade and took it. Imagine Crawford in left, Werth in right, and Swisher DH? Pretty big upgrade over Gardner, Swisher, and Thames.

[dablackguy]

Just simple upgrades. The Yankees didn't necessarily need Mark Teixeira two years ago but saw the chance to upgrade and took it. Imagine Crawford in left, Werth in right, and Swisher DH? Pretty big upgrade over Gardner, Swisher, and Thames.

I can't see the Yankees being players for Werth, other than maybe to bring the price up for the Sox or Angels. Everyone says Crawford to the Yankees and the evidence points to them getting Crawford (they didn't go after Holiday or Bay last year) but I would never give Crawford 7 @ 100+. Once his legs go, he won't have anything. His OBP isn't great, I don't believe in the power and he's not a super high average hitter.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I can't really see the Yankees getting a big bat. Thames had a good year so I'd have to think he'll be back in some capacity. There's also a mutual option with Berkman but I don't think they'd want to spend $15 million on him. Plus Posada will be back and you have to think there's at least a chance he'll be the DH if Montero proves himself to be ready for the bigs.

The other spots are already locked down for next year except for SS technically, but we know Jeter will be back.

I can see them grabbing an extra bullpen arm and of course making a run at Cliff Lee. If they don't Lee I could see them getting Lilly or somebody.</font>

[dablackguy]

I feel like Lilly resigned with the Dodgers but I could be wrong

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Oh, he did....just yesterday. Whoops.</font> :o

[dablackguy]

What I suspect the Yankees will do:

Vazquez - gone obviously
Pettite - would return I suspect
Rivera - Will return on the "Yankee lifetime reward contract"
Jeter - Same as Rivera but this one could turn out ugly - he did nothing after the break
Burnett - Will be back - too much money and they'd probably have to pay $40 or so of the $50 million left on his deal to move him
Wood - Will be back in some capacity, dunno if they're going to pick up an 11 million dollar option for a setup man

I think they'll give Nova a chance to win a rotation spot next year. I think they will sign Crawford. They would look like:

Jeter
Crawford
Teixeria
Rodriguez
Cano
Posada DH
Swisher
Montero
Granderson

Sabathia
Hughes
Pettite
Burnett
Nova

Also, I wouldn't be shocked if Joba isn't here at the start of the 2011 season - be it in the minors or elsewhere

[Aguakate]

You know, I don't think the offseason is going to be as full of surprise and storylines as most people think. I actually think it'll go down pretty calmly.

Yankees will sign Jeter, there's no doubt, and will also sign Rivera. They have to let Vazquez go, they have to evaluate Burnett and see if he's worth keeping or if they should try to trade him. I don't see any chance of Lee going to the Yankees. I think he enjoys beating them too much, plus, he's found a home in Texas, they are doing pretty well, and what he really wants to do is win, so I think Nolan Ryan and Ron Washington will sit down with him and work something out. And if they win the World Series, that meeting will be even easier.

Offensively I don't see the Yanks doing much. I don't see them adding Crawford, and I don't see them adding Werth.

[Nark Order]

I hope the Giants win. I just want to walk around San Francisco during the World Series.

[DaveWadding]

Werth needs to sign with the Blue Jays. Just because.

[Aguakate]

I hope the Giants win. I just want to walk around San Francisco during the World Series.

They will.

Tonight.

[Dragon]

The Yankees really don't have that much to change. Part of that is just that a lot of the positions have guys locked in already. Basically, bring Jeter and Mariano back. Jeter will be signed for too long and too much money, thats pretty much inevitable. Earlier in the season Mo talked about how he wouldn't mind going year by year. But I'm guessing they'll give him a two year deal. And probably going hard for Lee. After thats its just smaller pieces like the bench, maybe bringing Thames back.

Seriously doubt they go after Crawford or Werth. They'll obviously be linked to them all offseason but I don't think they'll have serious interest in them.

[Dragon]

You know, I don't think the offseason is going to be as full of surprise and storylines as most people think. I actually think it'll go down pretty calmly.

Yankees will sign Jeter, there's no doubt, and will also sign Rivera. They have to let Vazquez go, they have to evaluate Burnett and see if he's worth keeping or if they should try to trade him. I don't see any chance of Lee going to the Yankees. I think he enjoys beating them too much, plus, he's found a home in Texas, they are doing pretty well, and what he really wants to do is win, so I think Nolan Ryan and Ron Washington will sit down with him and work something out. And if they win the World Series, that meeting will be even easier.

Offensively I don't see the Yanks doing much. I don't see them adding Crawford, and I don't see them adding Werth.

I think he'll go to whoever offers the most. Haven't really heard of anyone passing up millions and millions of dollars because they enjoy beating up on a team. Sure, if Texas offers something in the same range as the Yankees he'd probably stay. If Texas doesn't offer the money, he's not staying. I dunno if its just the interviews I've seen with him or the fact that he's been on so many different teams over the past couple years, but I think he's absolutely just going to the highest bidder.

[ClockShot]

Just wanna state for the record that I like Brett Gardner in pinstripes. So, no thank you for Carl Crawford.

Also gotta remember the braintrust gotta make a decision on Girardi. He's done too. I'm willing to bet when he gets home he may have a message or two from clubs with manager vacancies. But I think Hal will keep him in one way or another.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

What I suspect the Yankees will do:

Vazquez - gone obviously
Pettite - would return I suspect
Rivera - Will return on the "Yankee lifetime reward contract"
Jeter - Same as Rivera but this one could turn out ugly - he did nothing after the break
Burnett - Will be back - too much money and they'd probably have to pay $40 or so of the $50 million left on his deal to move him
Wood - Will be back in some capacity, dunno if they're going to pick up an 11 million dollar option for a setup man

I think they'll give Nova a chance to win a rotation spot next year. I think they will sign Crawford. They would look like:

Jeter
Crawford
Teixeria
Rodriguez
Cano
Posada DH
Swisher
Montero
Granderson

Sabathia
Hughes
Pettite
Burnett
Nova

Also, I wouldn't be shocked if Joba isn't here at the start of the 2011 season - be it in the minors or elsewhere

Nova really? Would you care to elaborate on that? He is a good starter. But from what I see anyway he is a little better then Dustin Moseley. If the Yankees need a starter if Burnett or Pettitte go down next year he'd be a good fill in guy. If the Yankees need a sixth starter he'd be a good fill in guy. But is he really ready to be our fifth starter? Cause I just don't see it.

If we don't get Lee you should rest assure we are making a trade for a good starter maybe from the NL.

Here's how it will likely be.

CC

Lee (Insert traded for pitcher here)

Pettitte

Burnett

Hughes

I have not seen enough of Nova to say he'd be a good fifth starter. And by the way I don't think I even want Crawford. Now, Werth on the other hand I'm interested in getting him.

[Innovator]

I can't wait to see the corpse of Posada catch for another 3 years.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I can't wait to see the corpse of Posada catch for another 3 years.


He'd be the DH. Montero will be our catcher (Hopefully) if not him then probably Austin Romine.

[Aguakate]

I have seen Joe Girardi for the last couple of months, especially in the postseason, and I don't know...I'm not saying he will leave and not come back (My guess is he will return), but I don't see him enjoying managing in New York. Now, don't get me wrong, it's not easy, and surely being Yankee manager must be stressful, but I just don't see him enjoying what he does. You see some managers, and even when they are in stress, you still see they are at least happy doing what they are doing. I don't get that feeling from Girardi. If he does come back (and I think he will), I don't see him sticking around for a long tenure. I just don't think he can emotionally and mentally handle it.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I have seen Joe Girardi for the last couple of months, especially in the postseason, and I don't know...I'm not saying he will leave and not come back (My guess is he will return), but I don't see him enjoying managing in New York. Now, don't get me wrong, it's not easy, and surely being Yankee manager must be stressful, but I just don't see him enjoying what he does. You see some managers, and even when they are in stress, you still see they are at least happy doing what they are doing. I don't get that feeling from Girardi. If he does come back (and I think he will), I don't see him sticking around for a long tenure. I just don't think he can emotionally and mentally handle it.

I think I might just take this with a grain of salt no offense. I mean all managers can't react to stress as easily as others. Being a Manager is a stressful job. Are you implying he'd be happier with another team or are you just saying he's just not cut out to be a manager? Cause I really don't know if a change of environment will really change the way he handles stress.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I think Girardi is definitely coming back. Management seem to like him and I see no reason to leave if you have a perennial title contender.

He may have wanted to "go home" to the Cubs but that's already off the table. Shocked the Cubs didn't wait for Girardi to hit the market tbh.</font>

[Aguakate]

I think I might just take this with a grain of salt no offense. I mean all managers can't react to stress as easily as others. Being a Manager is a stressful job. Are you implying he'd be happier with another team or are you just saying he's just not cut out to be a manager? Cause I really don't know if a change of environment will really change the way he handles stress.

When he was Marlins manager he didn't seem so stressed, so uptight. He was just doing his job and working with the young guys down there. He would smile, joke around with the young players, and he turned them from a losing team to an above .500 team. Now that he is in New York, he really seemed kind of...I don't know how to explain it. He seemed unhappy. Obviously managing in Florida isn't the same as New York, and the expectations were less. I read where he, last Tuesday, accepted that he had given thought to managing the Cubs, where there was an opening. So I just think that while he is a good manager, he's not cut out to manage in New York (emotionally and mentally).

[Hardkore Kidd J]

When he was Marlins manager he didn't seem so stressed, so uptight. He was just doing his job and working with the young guys down there. He would smile, joke around with the young players, and he turned them from a losing team to an above .500 team. Now that he is in New York, he really seemed kind of...I don't know how to explain it. He seemed unhappy. Obviously managing in Florida isn't the same as New York, and the expectations were less. I read where he, last Tuesday, accepted that he had given thought to managing the Cubs, where there was an opening. So I just think that while he is a good manager, he's not cut out to manage in New York (emotionally and mentally).

That may be true and I would love for the Cubs to actually win a World Series I'm starting to feel bad for them. They have the team to make it to the playoffs at least.

This is me just hoping he doesn't go because right now there are no options other then Giardi as Yankees Manager.

[Aguakate]

I don't think he will leave right now (I'm almost 100% sure), but he won't have a long tenure, is all I'm trying to say. He's not gonna be there for 10 years or anything like that.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I don't think he will leave right now (I'm almost 100% sure), but he won't have a long tenure, is all I'm trying to say. He's not gonna be there for 10 years or anything like that.

Yeah, I'm really not expecting a Joe Torre type run.

[Aguakate]

Yeah, I'm really not expecting a Joe Torre type run.

I think that the Yankees have failed in terms of grooming Minor League Managers, or Major League Coaches, so they can one day manage at the Big League level, perhaps the same Yankees. Once Girardi is gone, it'll be interesting what happens.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I think Girardi is definitely coming back. Management seem to like him and I see no reason to leave if you have a perennial title contender.

He may have wanted to "go home" to the Cubs but that's already off the table. Shocked the Cubs didn't wait for Girardi to hit the market tbh.

I must be out of it. Who did the Cubs go after for Manager?

[Aguakate]

I must be out of it. Who did the Cubs go after for Manager?

Mike Quade got named as Manager. He was the one who took over after Pinella.

[Triple Naitch]

I hate Gary Matthews' hats.

[McLegend]

His hats are great.

[Juan]

Let's go Giants!

[Aguakate]

I didn't know Sanchez, the pitcher who's starting Game 6 for the Giants, is Puerto Rican.

Hmm.

[RoXer]

What are they chanting?

[RoXer]

Hairlip?

[McLegend]

Obviously San Chez

[RoXer]

Sounds nothing like it

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Have a feeling that a Rangers/Giants World Series is too good to be true</font> :(

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Hopefully Philly doesn't win. If they win Hamilton will then try to smoke the crack in the Liberty bell. :)

[Aguakate]

Are they going to play Games 6 and 7 in Philly or will Game 7 be in San Francisco?

[Skippord]

come on Phillies

Jonathan Sanchez is a huge bitch

[ClockShot]

Fun fact:

Everybody on the Padres EXCEPT Yorvit Torrealba and Jon Garland walk away from the team this offseason. They're on buyout or option money going into 2011.

Basically, there's nobody on the team right now.

[Aguakate]

Fun fact:

Everybody on the Padres EXCEPT Yorvit Torrealba and Jon Garland walk away from the team this offseason. They're on buyout or option money going into 2011.

Basically, there's nobody on the team right now.

This includes Adrian Gonzalez?

[McLegend]

I don't know right now.

[Aguakate]

This game is...good.

[McLegend]

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!!!!

[Aguakate]

Cody Ross, baby.

[Triple Naitch]

Lol at Renteria trying to sell that HBP.

[McLegend]

Get some fuckin runs.

[Aguakate]

Lol at Renteria trying to sell that HBP.

LoL started jumping up and down and as soon as the umpire said it was a Foul Ball, he stopped and "the pain went away"..

[McLegend]

He was pitching on 2 days rest? ARE YOU SERIOUS RIGHT NOW?

[Aguakate]

These two teams are such teases.

[Aguakate]

This dude's singing "God Bless America" with an English accent.

[Tb1]

Can't do this shit right now.

[Aguakate]

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Uribe!

[Tb1]

URIBE!!

[McLegend]

Juan Uribe? Really now

[Aguakate]

It's the playoffs. The guy you least expect comes through. Look at Cody Ross.

Oh, shit. Tim Lincecum is in.

[Tb1]

This Lincecum move will backfire, fuck.

[Loose Cannon]

wow, this is pretty legend right here for Timmy.

[Loose Cannon]

shades of Walter Johnson

[Skippord]

the Phillies are just embarassing themselves at this point

[Aguakate]

the Phillies are just embarassing themselves at this point

Well, Lincecum is, too.

[Tb1]

god dammit

[Tb1]

On one day's rest? Fucking hate this idea.

[Loose Cannon]

hanging curveball, that's not a good sign.

[Aguakate]

Haha oh no...

...the BEARD is coming in.

[Loose Cannon]

wow, he hung it again. he was definately not ready to pitch

[Triple Naitch]

Come on, Chooch.

[Aguakate]

Well, it was a good idea on paper. But he's no Cliff Lee.

[Tb1]

*LOSING* it rite now lads

[Aguakate]

FUCK YOU, VICTORINO! Haha.

[Tb1]

YES!

[McLegend]

I hate Victorino. I hate him.

[Skippord]

so it'll be my second favorite team against my least favorite team. interesting

[Tb1]

Not over yet

[Aguakate]

I thought it was over in the first. Oswalt pitching, a 2 run inning, the Giants don't hit alot...I thought the Phillies had it in the bag.

[McLegend]

The Phillies really need Johhny Damon in this game.

[Aguakate]

The BEARD is coming up to the plate! LoL

[Triple Naitch]

How can Victorino be the best base stealer on the team while also being the worst base runner in baseball?

[Aguakate]

How can Victorino be the best base stealer on the team while also being the worst base runner in baseball?

It means the rest of the team sucks.

[The Fraze]

LET'S GO GIANTS

[Aguakate]

Man...this is nail-biting.

[The Fraze]

I'm in my car listening to the call...so nervewracking. I think I'm losing weight.

[Aguakate]

Haha yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah, buddy!

[McLegend]

Congrats to the Giants. The phillies biggest issue the past 4 years has been hitting with runners in scoring postion, and this year they didn't have the long ball to bail them out.

[DaveWadding]

Wow.

[Triple Naitch]

Fuck.

[McLegend]

Not congrats to you front runners though.

[RoXer]

Will never understand how professionals can just look at that pitch go by.

[Emperor Smeat]

:rofl: the umpire with the dramatic delayed K call.

Crazy how the World Series is set to be Giants vs Rangers.

Before the playoffs started, Giants were fighting to even make the playoffs while everyone assumed red-hot Phillies would take the NL. The Rangers dominated a very weak AL West but also had issues and either the Rays or Yankees were expected to take the AL.

[Triple Naitch]

I don't dislike the Giants, but I'll be pulling for the Rangers in the World Series.

[Aguakate]

ALCS ends on a superstar striking out looking, and so does the NLCS.

[Juan]

wooooooooooo

[Tb1]

MOTHER FUCKING YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Tb1]

Shaking right now. Unbelievable series.

[McLegend]

I also no idea it was the Joe Carter anniversary. What a terrible day.

Sanchez coming out was the best possible thing for the Giants.

[Skippord]

looks like the Straight Edge Society is going to have to handle the Giants

[McLegend]

Also the Phillies really need a bat this off season.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Fucking so happy right now. Now I can finally watch a World Series without having a team I hate in it.</font> :love:

[Juan]

this is pretty awesome.

[Aguakate]

A Rangers-Giants World Series. The Giants haven't won in a while, and the Rangers never have. So, I mean, it's AWESOME.

[Tb1]

Props to the Phillies, could've gone either way

[Skippord]

I hate it when former Rockies do things to help teams I'm rooting against

[Tb1]

Yeah, Giants haven't won in 60 years

[Aguakate]

This is a pretty evenly matched World Series. Both teams beat the "powerhouses" of their respective leagues to get there, so they deserve it.

[Triple Naitch]

Amazing how the Giants could never win with one of the best hitters of all time on their roster, but are going to the World Series built around pitching and small ball.

[McLegend]

Amazing how the Giants could never win with one of the best hitters of all time on their roster, but are going to the World Series built around pitching and small ball.

Everyone of their players(not pitchers) is a cast off.

That's even more amazing. It doesn't really make any sense.

[Skippord]

why is this guy giving the National League trophy to Bill Clinton?

[Aguakate]

Amazing how the Giants could never win with one of the best hitters of all time on their roster, but are going to the World Series built around pitching and small ball.

Same thing with the Rangers, when they had Juan Gonzalez, Pudge Rodriguez, AROD, Palmeiro, etc. A lot of hitting, but no pitching and no small ball. It was said they couldn't win because of their ballpark, but they're playing in the same ballpark they did in the 90's and they are winning.

It's awesome, for both teams.

[Triple Naitch]

Did they say his name is Wayne Newton?

[Skippord]

I find it a little hard to take the Giants seriously with their front office being entirely comprised of celebrity impersonators

[Skippord]

as much as I like Bruce Bochy, I hate listening to him talk

[Triple Naitch]

Same thing with the Rangers, when they had Juan Gonzalez, Pudge Rodriguez, AROD, Palmeiro, etc. A lot of hitting, but no pitching and no small ball. It was said they couldn't win because of their ballpark, but they're playing in the same ballpark they did in the 90's and they are winning.

It's awesome, for both teams.

Yeah, but the Rangers made it because of their hitting (and Cliff Lee). Giants completely remodeled their team philosophy.

[McLegend]

Just for the record Cliff Lee would have won game 1. So the Phillies front office still should get ripped for that disaster.

[Skippord]

I really hope Lincecum gets a ball lined off his face in the World Series.

[Aguakate]

Just for the record Cliff Lee would have won game 1. So the Phillies front office still should get ripped for that disaster.

Of course. That's why they tried to get him back this past season but didn't. Horrible trade.

[Juan]

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[Triple Naitch]

The LCS shirts are pretty mint.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wish I had Sirius XM. Win or lose there should be some good Mad Dog rants.</font>

[Jeritron]

Just the fact that The Phillies could have actually had Cliff Lee and Roy Halladay on the same staff, and actively chose not to is enough for me to say they deserved to lose this series.

[Aguakate]

I still don't understand why they traded Lee. I just don't get it. I don't even remember the reasons they gave. There's gotta be a reason we don't know, because for them to trade Lee, only to pick up Oswalt midseason, is strange. The Phillies can't be that stupid.

[Jeritron]

I really hope Lincecum gets a ball lined off his face in the World Series.

Won't be off the bat of a Rockie

[Tb1]

I really hope Lincecum gets a ball lined off his face in the World Series.

:'(

[Skippord]

if he weren't a scumbag I wouldn't hope these things

[Jeritron]

Whoever signs cliff Lee this offseason (because it's going to be a big market team that's already good), should issue only this for their press release:


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[Aguakate]

Brian Wilson is awesome. The CM Punk of the MLB.


The end of this interview is priceless:

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[Jeritron]

I hope the CM Punk of the MLB isn't in the doghouse

[Skippord]

Brian Wilson is a goddamn lunatic

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Brian Wilson is awesome. The CM Punk of the MLB.


The end of this interview is priceless:

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One nation under Punk with integrity and sobriety for all.

[Tb1]

Brian Wilson is a god

[Jeritron]

Aubrey Huff celebration

http://deadspin.com/322596/aubrey-huff-admires-works-of-art

[Aguakate]

The Fist Pump Cam!

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[Jeritron]

Might have to fist pump to that chick at :45

[Juan]

Delicious.

[OssMan]

Fucking so happy right now. Now I can finally watch a World Series without having a team I hate in it. :love:
Seriously

[OssMan]

Wait the straight edge guy that everybody is referring to is Brian Wilson? I thought you were talking about Josh Hamilton

[Jeritron]

Do you happen to hate those teams that make the world series, or just hate them because they make it to the world series?
I wouldn't be suprised if people hate the Rangers or Giants in the event they repeat or get back there once or twice after this.

[Jeritron]

Also extremely happy that it's not Yanks and/or Phillies though

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I am so happy the Phillies didn't advance. I hope the Giants win the World Series.

[Juan]

I am so happy the Phillies didn't advance. I hope the Giants win the World Series.

:y:

[DaveWadding]

Go Rangers.

[Evil Vito]

Do you happen to hate those teams that make the world series, or just hate them because they make it to the world series?
I wouldn't be suprised if people hate the Rangers or Giants in the event they repeat or get back there once or twice after this.

<font color=goldenrod>Nah, I don't hate teams BECAUSE they make the WS, it's just that I usually have a rooting interest. This year I can just chill and hopefully watch some great baseball.

2009: Obviously hate the Yankees, although this one would have sucked either way for me.
2008: Obviously hate the Phillies, plus the Rays would have been a great story.
2007: I don't HATE the Red Sox, but they had just won the WS a few years earlier and the Rox just felt like an amazing story so I was pulling hard for them. Sadly I knew the Rox would get squashed when they had to wait around for a week.
2006: I don't hate the Cardinals either, but I obviously had to root against them after knocking off the Mets in the NLCS.

So yeah, 2005 was the last time I watched a WS with no rooting interest, just a hope for a good series.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol I just realized something...

Congrats on your 2010 World Series ring Bengie Molina</font> :o

[McLegend]

Shane Victorino has been Major league player for 7 years now. How does he continue to be the as dumb as he is? Everyone know with 1 out you freeze when the ball is the air. You don't continue to fuckin run. Raul Ibanez nearly got hit in the head trying to get back in the base.

Seriously how does that stuff still happen? Then swinging at ball 2 with the bases loaded? What a moron.

[OssMan]

I probably hate Victorino more than any other player in MLB right now.

[McLegend]

I do hate him more then any other player right now.

[Skippord]

Wait the straight edge guy that everybody is referring to is Brian Wilson? I thought you were talking about Josh Hamilton
C.J. Wilson

[D Mac]

Another very uninteresting World Series. Probably another ratings tank.

[YOUR Hero]

Another very uninteresting World Series. Probably another ratings tank.

I'm liking this WS potential. I don't care if I'm the only one watching, ratings mean nothing to me.

...Do they mean something to you?

[Juan]

It only means he can say he was right if the ratings come in low.

[YOUR Hero]

So what if the ratings are low?

Unless you are an ad exec. so what?!

[Juan]

I'm with you, man.

[Tb1]

How is this an uninteresting World Series? Neither team has won in 60 years

[Skippord]

The Giants are really unpleasant to watch

[Juan]

The Giants are really unpleasant to watch

I'm sure that's a completely unbiased opinion.

[Skippord]

It is, even though I hate the Giants I would say they're fun to watch if they were fun to watch.

[Jeritron]

Isn't D-Mac from Kansas City? What would be interesting, a Royals world series? Would that be a ratings juggernaut too?

Who the fuck cares about the ratings. It will be interesting since both teams play great baseball. They found a way to beat the Yankees and Phillies. They're obviously doing something right. It should be a good matchup.

[Jeritron]

The Giants are really unpleasant to watch

Why?

[D Mac]

Whatever happened to Barry Bonds?

[Juan]

Whatever happened to Barry Bonds?

He's dodging prison

[Jeritron]

I heard he was a ratings tank

[Skippord]

Why?
I am actually just biased against them probably, but I just find them super boring to watch. Maybe because I watch them all the time I guess. And I hate them

[Skippord]

and I realize I sound like a huge asshole here, I could not craft an argument for why I don't like watching the Giants play so I gave up.

[Skippord]

also is it weird that as much as I dislike the Giants I love Bruce Bochy?

[Jeritron]

Watching Tim Lincecum deal is not even close to boring. The rest of the team is just as entertaining as any good national league team.
Great baseball. As an outsider, I would say they are just as entertaining to watch as the 2007 Rockies

[Jeritron]

also is it weird that as much as I dislike the Giants I love Bruce Bochy?

Not really. I always liked Joe Torre and now Joe Girardi, and as a Red Sox fan there is no greater evil than the Yankees.
Skippers are sort of a different bag.

[Skippord]

being that I hate Tim Lincecum more than anyone in baseball watching him pitch well is awful for me.

[Skippord]

I guess I don't really hate the whole Giants team, I just really dislike Lincecum, Sanchez and Huff a lot

[Skippord]

oh and their broadcaster who accused the Rockies of cheating

[DaveWadding]

you know who I hate? The Dodgers.

[Jeritron]

I don't know how you can hate Tim Lincecum

[YOUR Hero]

The ratings will prob. be low, but that just tells me that the bandwagon fans of the game don't watch when their team isn't in it. Me, I can watch any team play any team and still totally enjoy the game.

[Juan]

I don't know how you can hate Tim Lincecum

Skip hates stoners.

[Skippord]

I don't know how you can hate Tim Lincecum
he accused the Rockies of cheating

[Skippord]

and is also a stoner

[Juan]

Lol

[Skippord]

you know me too well J-Barb

[Jeritron]

You should be flattered by accusations of cheating. That's usually something jealous teams and players just do because they hate the team thats on top.

[Skippord]

I suppose, unfortunately he dominated in the game he accused them of cheating in :(

[YOUR Hero]

Was that the overly humid balls or whatever?

[Jeritron]

Skippord doesn't like it when his balls are accused of being overly humid

[Skippord]

If I remember correctly it was underly humid balls, which is essentially impossible for the Rockies to do, and he also said they lowered the radar gun on him and raised it for Ubaldo Jimenez a couple years ago

[Skippord]

also my balls are kept at a nice 75 degrees at all times

[Jeritron]

Underly humid balls are even worse. Nobody wants dry balls

[Skippord]

I know I don't

[Jeritron]

If the Cubs or Diamonbacks win their division before the Red Sox win another pennant, I will wear a pink Red Sox hat into Yankee Stadium

[YOUR Hero]

I keep a saucer of water nearby at all times.

[Skippord]

the D'Backs are getting better

you may pay for this

[Jeritron]

Wadding would have to buy the hat and the tickets though

[Skippord]

Do it Dave.

[Jeritron]

Travel and hotel accomidations as well. And possibly a stipend for food. I'm going to need to eat hearty and rest well if I'm going to be going through Bruce Wayne prison training out in the right field bleachers

[Skippord]

I wish fans here were more like East Coast Fans

I want to see the Rockies fans beat down some Dodger fans at a game

[Jeritron]

It's okay to wish you were a Red Sox fan. DaveWadding does

[Triple Naitch]

Pretty sure a Giant fan killed a Dodger fan a couple years ago.

[Skippord]

nah I'm not a huge enough dick to be a Red Sox fan

BOOM!

[Skippord]

Pretty sure a Giant fan killed a Dodger fan a couple years ago.
that's a touch extreme

[Triple Naitch]

Kinda wanna see CJ Wilson do an SES promo before the game against Tim Linecum and the San Francisco fans.

[Skippord]

him and his first disciple Josh Hamilton

[Triple Naitch]

I guess I don't really hate the whole Giants team, I just really dislike Lincecum, Sanchez and Huff a lot

Not Freddy Sanchez I hope. He is adorable.

Can't hate Aubrey Huff. He suffered so much playing all those years for the Devil Rays that he deserves this.

[Skippord]

Jonathan Sanchez. I :heart: Freddy Sanchez

[Triple Naitch]

Lincecum & Brian Wilson vs. CJ Wilson & Hamilton would be a hot opener in the Tag Team Invitational.

[Skippord]

I don't like Aubrey Huff because he is a dirty sinner

[Aguakate]

Whatever happened to Barry Bonds?

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[Innovator]

I'm gonna put my head through a wall, then patch it, then put it through again if the Yankees sign Crawford.

[Innovator]

I'll put it through again if I read another Vito post about how he hates the Yankees.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Hmm...so you mean I can cause Inno brain damage?

Man am I glad that Yanks and Phils fans get to experience the pain of seeing your season end with your big star taking a backwards K. I hate them!

...:shifty: </font>

[ClockShot]

Yankees fire Dave "Long" Eiland.

I'm speechless.

[Innovator]

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

[ClockShot]

Headlines section of ESPN.com.

Not really "fired". His contract was up anyway and $man decided not to bring him back. Chatter going around is that it may have something to do with his taking time off during June.

[Innovator]

I can see that, also with all of the hits given up with two strikes against Texas, couldn't do anything to turn Joba and AJ around, etc.

[Emperor Smeat]

Supposedly Cliff Lee's wife was harassed while at Yankees Stadium and even though it was horrible, Cliff Lee says it won't harm potential deals in the future with the Yankees.

During the AL Championship Series games in New York between the Yankees and Rangers, fans were extremely rude to Kristen Lee, spitting and throwing beer in her direction and shouting obscenities, according to USA Today.

The ironic part is this whole incident occurred around the same time Lee's wife was talking to Sabathia's wife to find out the best places to live and go to while in New York since Lee and Sabathia are close friends off the field.

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5729471

[Dragon]

Lee's not gonna say it'll hurt a deal either way. Take the Yankees out of the equation and he's making a lot less money next year. He'll at least keep the Yankees involved even if he has no interest coming here.

[McLegend]

ROFL

OMG that is hilarious. How dumb can you be?

[Jeritron]

lol

[Supreme Olajuwon]

http://www.playerwives.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/cleveland-back-row-next-to-last.jpg

Kristen Lee. Disappointing.

[McLegend]

I can buy that. Cliff Lee didn't peak until he was 30 years old.

[Loose Cannon]

if she lost a few pounds, she would look a lot better.

Pretty excited about this World Series. It should be an awesome series. If you're a baseball fan, this has a little bit of eveything in it for you.

ESPN was showing the infield/oufield practice tonight and I love how it's the same type of practice we all did in Little League. They were just showing Vlad in right waiting for his turn for the coach to hit the ball to him. love how the game never changes.

[Triple Naitch]

They were throwing beer at her because they thought she was David Wells in a wig.

[Loose Cannon]

the 2007 Cleveland Indians sure knew how to pick them

http://blog.cleveland.com/pdworld/2007/10/wives.jpg

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Front row's not bad. Probably would look better if they weren't all in wife mode.

[McLegend]

We kind of need names for that picture.

[McLegend]

Sabathia's wife is next to Mrs. Lee I do think..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Front, from left, Pamela Moore, fiancee of Jason Michaels; Jaclyn Ayers, fiancee of Aaron Laffey; Abbie Blake, wife of Casey Blake. Back row, Kate Wedge, wife of Eric Wedge; Christine WIlliams, wife of Dan Williams; Molly Peralta, wife of Jhonny Peralta; Amber Sabathia, wife of C. C. Sabathia; Kristen Lee, wife of Cliff Lee.

[McLegend]

No one Knows Baseball players wives better then Supreme.

[Triple Naitch]

Cleveland's Finest

[weather vane]

Brian Wilson and THE FREAKKKKK

[McLegend]

I think at some point during the game tonight we will hear something along the lines of

Cliff Lee reminds me of a pitcher I use to catch for. Steve Carlton "Lefty" of the Philadelphia Phillies. We called him Lefty, because he threw... Left handed. That's why Cliff Lee reminds me of Steve Carlton, because he throws Left handed.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

No one Knows Baseball players wives better then Supreme.

I'd say me and Jayson Werth know an equal amount.

[McLegend]

I walked right into that one.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

If only the Reds could've gotten some of those easy lobs too :'(

[McLegend]

The Phillies did get some easy lobs, and they still couldn't hit them.

:'(

[Droford]

I don't like Aubrey Huff because he is a dirty sinner

"Baltimore's a horsehit town"

fuck him

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I heard Jayson Werth put a lob right on Jennifer Utley's face.

[McLegend]

Well I heard Ryan Howard tried, but he was caught looking.

[McLegend]

:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(

[Droford]

Buck Showalter: "The Baltimore Orioles will win the the A.L. East in 2011"

fuck yeah!

unless they finish dead last again

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I hope these supposed Yankee fans really don't stop Cliff Lee from coming here. If we don't get Cliff Lee we could have a problem with AJ Burnett having a bad year and Hughes maybe coming off an excellent year. Hughes is a good pitcher but I can't see him doing as good as he did this year next year. Javy Vazquez being most likely gone and Andy 50/50. That's one reason why I am going for San Francisco if Texas doesn't win there will be more of a chance of Cliff going to where the money is at instead of signing for a discount back with Texas.

I think Cliff wants to come here. He wants to pitch on the same team as Sabathia. And Cliff and CC'S wife I have heard are very, good friends. So I think we have a chance but I am sticking by my guns and saying if by chance we don't sign Lee we will gather together a package and sending a good to modest package to a NL team for a good pitcher. We may have to do that even if we sign Lee. This off season will be fun I think.

[Dragon]

It'll come down to money, like it does with almost every free agent. I'm sure millions of dollars will make up for a bad experience at Yankee Stadium. And he's been in Texas a couple months now, its not like he's been there his whole career or anything. I can't remember many free agents giving discounts to teams they were with for half a season.

Also, why do you think Hughes can't have a good season next year? Its obvious the workload this year was the reason for him trailing off in the second half. With a year of starting under his belt and not having to deal with innings limits next year I expect him to keep improving.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

It'll come down to money, like it does with almost every free agent. I'm sure millions of dollars will make up for a bad experience at Yankee Stadium. And he's been in Texas a couple months now, its not like he's been there his whole career or anything. I can't remember many free agents giving discounts to teams they were with for half a season.

Also, why do you think Hughes can't have a good season next year? Its obvious the workload this year was the reason for him trailing off in the second half. With a year of starting under his belt and not having to deal with innings limits next year I expect him to keep improving.

I never said he can't have a good year. Just not this good a year. Just hear me out this year he had 18 wins, That's insanely good. I hope that he keeps on improving of course, I just don't see him being a 20 game winner. Don't ask me why I just don't see it. Course he'll have a good year next year. Why? Because Hughes is a good pitcher.

I guess I read to many newspapers then . Almost every time I read a Cliff Lee article it keeps saying that Cliff is more likely to accept a discount from Texas if they win the World Series.

[Dragon]

Wins are a terrible way to judge players years though. If wins actually related to how well he pitched this year he would have no where near 18 wins because he struggled a lot in the second half.

I'm sure winning the WS will definitely help in retaining Lee but I can't imagine he'll give a big discount either way. He has no long-term ties with Texas. He's only been there a couple months. I have no idea on what he thinks but most likely he'll do what every other free agent does and go to whichever team offers the most money. The one advantage Texas has over other teams is Texas is close to Lee's home.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Sandy Alderson</font> :cool:

[Innovator]

Orioles are gonna be good next year, they finished real strong.

[ClockShot]

3-year, $9 mil. contract is in the works for Joe Girardi.

Fair enough for me.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Orioles are gonna be good next year, they finished real strong.

Where do you think they'll be in 2011? In 4th place? They are real strong but unfortunately they are in the wrong league. Do you think they can finish above the Rays, Red Sox , or the Yankees?