MLB 2010 Season Thread

[McLegend]

Man the guy threw a 1 hitter, and won, but yet everyone is there pissed and or upset.

That's terrible.

[RP]

Oh my fucking god is that foreal. THat was not even close to being close. OMG. THat ump made his mind up before he even saw the play.

[DaveWadding]

wow. fucking Jim Joyce.

[Emperor Smeat]

WOW what a mess up on the last out to kill the attempt at a perfect game.

Obviously the 1st base umpire shouldn't just call an out for the sake of getting the game done quickly but he defiantly blew that call badly.

[MVP]

Total bullshit call.

[RP]

I know it wont happen, but that needs to go down as a perfect game. Thats a fucking joke. These umps are fucking horrible. FUCKING HORRIBLE. And guess what we're gunna hear about for the next 2 weeks. Instant Replay.

That is fucking tragic to be honest. I cant believe that kid isnt getting the perfect game he pitched. Fuck that shit. That was a perfect game in my book.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>How in the fuck do you not give it to the pitcher when it's close WHEN ITS THE LAST OUT OF A PERFECT GAME?</font>

[MVP]

I wonder if MLB is behind this...

[RP]

Look, if you miss it by inches, then it sucks, but i understand. If you miss it by about a foot and a half like he just did, GET THE FUCK OUT!

[Emperor Smeat]

Surprised in a way there was no meeting between the umpires to discuss the call unless its only allowed in the playoffs (similar to extra officials on the field during the playoffs).

[RP]

If i was the commish, i'd place a call to that game and stop the game and tell them it was safe and that the game is over. Fuck that happy horseshit.

[RP]

I'm fucking pissed right now. That kid better have an official Perfect Game on the record books when i wake up .

[MVP]

Too bad MLB is probably behind the bad call. It's a conspiracy I tell you.

[McLegend]

Too bad MLB is probably behind the bad call. It's a conspiracy I tell you.

Somehow the Red Sox will benefit from it.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, if this doesn't bring in full-on instant replay challenges, then nothing will.</font>

[RP]

And the kid in centerfield made one of the best catches i've seen to get the first out.

[RP]

lol he was out by 2 feet.

[RP]

you know what. I've watched it 5 times now. It was about 3 feet honestly.

[MVP]

Joyce's argument is that the ball was bobbled, but the ball was just snowconed which counts as caught, so Gallaraga should have gotten the perfect game.

[RP]

bye Jim Joyce

[Jeritron]

are you fucking kidding me???????????

pretty livid right now. that shouldn't even be allowed to happen. how do the umps not stop the game and get that right? how is bud selig not on line 1?

ugh. disgusted right now

[Splaya]

Fuck you Jim Joyce and fuck you officials for not getting together and reversing his clearly botched call. It fucking amazes me how we have all these umps just pulling this bullshit these days. You want a reason for instant replay in baseball, this is your fucking reason. Jim Joyce oughta be fired, and whoever the fuck that home plate umpire should be ashamed of himself for not overuling the play.

Oh yeah, btw the reason why I didn't post during it was because I was at the game

[Jeritron]

I just don't like that there's 0 accountability for blown calls. Especially with that much riding on it, and that glaringly blown.

[Droford]

Something is wrong with baseball when dudes like Dallas Braden and Armando Gallaraga are flirting with and/or get Perfect Games.

[Jeritron]

They both got perfect games, so let's just clear that up.

Second of all, if there isn't any cheating involved there is nothing wrong with baseball. It might indicate a change of the times, like a surge of good pitching and defense in the wake of the steroid era.
There weren't many thrown in the 90s and early 2000s for obvious reasons.

[Splaya]

Droford fuck you you piece of shit. If someone an put it together, then they put it together. That's like saying before Nolan Ryan threw a no hitter, he didn't deserve it

[RP]

I'm even more pissed that he said the ball was bobbled. I'd like to interview Jim Joyce after the game.

" Jim. How does it feel to rob another man of the biggest moment of his life? "

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Oh what a shocker. The Mets only score 1 run for Santana, so K-Rod gives up that 1 run cushion.

The Mets should trade Santana. It's not fair to his career to keep screwing him over like this.</font>

[RP]

why cant the commish overturn this and declare it a perfect game?

[Splaya]

Oh good, just found out Jim Joyce is going to be behind the plate for tommorows game

[RP]

Joyce has come out and said he blew the call and he cost the kid the perfect game.

[Splaya]

Apparently the umpire manual states that on a ball hit to 1st base, the first base umpire needs to be 2 to 3 feet off the line in order to make the right call. GUESS WHERE FUCKING JIM HANDLEBAR MOUSTACHE JOYCE WAS. YUP, ON THE LINE. FUCKING LAZY PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT

[Splaya]

Joyce has come out and said he blew the call and he cost the kid the perfect game.

WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT GET US? "OOOOH I COST THE KID THE PERFECT GAME". ILL JUST GO OUT AND DO MY JOB TOMMOROW AND WIDEN THE INDIANS STRIKEZONE AND SHRINK THE TIGERS. GOOD JOB JOYCE, GO FIND SELIG AND MAKE SURE YOU TWO HOLD ONTO ONE ANOTHER LIKE CROSBY AND BETTMAN DO

[loopydate]

Kurkjian just called it the worst call in regular-season history. Absolute fucking nightmare.

And God, I wish Griffey could have stayed healthy. Can you imagine what the landscape of the game would have looked like if he - and not McGwire or Bonds - had been the one breaking records? He's a shell of his former self, but still one of the all-time greats. Such a shame his retirement is going to be overshadowed by Jim Joyce...

[McLegend]

<font color=goldenrod>Oh what a shocker. The Mets only score 1 run for Santana, so K-Rod gives up that 1 run cushion.

The Mets should trade Santana. It's not fair to his career to keep screwing him over like this.</font>

Raul Ibanez and Shane Victorino for Santana? How bout it?

I'm sure this trade works for everyone.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

We'll miss you Junior. Without question the greatest player I've ever had the pleasure to see on the field. This guy was surrounded by roiders and cheaters everywhere and they still couldn't touch him.

[Emperor Smeat]

why cant the commish overturn this and declare it a perfect game?

He could in theory overturn the ruling in the same way he was in charge of changing the rule to determine a perfect game in 1991/1992 and then a few years ago that got rid of a lot of older perfect games in MLB history (and no hitters/1-hitters).

[Emperor Smeat]

Kurkjian just called it the worst call in regular-season history. Absolute fucking nightmare.

And God, I wish Griffey could have stayed healthy. Can you imagine what the landscape of the game would have looked like if he - and not McGwire or Bonds - had been the one breaking records? He's a shell of his former self, but still one of the all-time greats. Such a shame his retirement is going to be overshadowed by Jim Joyce...

Griffey Jr and the 1995 Mariners team are the only reason the Mariners didn't move from Seattle when the city refused to pay for a new stadium.

Griffey Jr was amazing in the '90s and crazy how after the 1st year with the Reds he basically began to fall apart injury-wise. No question without a doubt that he would be the current home run champion and maybe be near the 1000 HR mark by now if it wasn't for injuries.

[Splaya]

He could in theory overturn the ruling in the same way he was in charge of changing the rule to determine a perfect game in 1991/1992 and then a few years ago that got rid of a lot of older perfect games in MLB history (and no hitters/1-hitters).

He can overturn it, but it remains to be seen if he will.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Aaaaand the Mets lose yet another series on the road. They haven't won back-to-back road games since last July. Unreal.

Furthermore, Santana gave the Mets 15 scoreless innings on this road trip, and the Mets lost both games. *head hit desk*</font>

[Splaya]

lol, so sick

[Jeritron]

Godspeed Griffey. My favorite player alltime

[Loose Cannon]

just got home and saw this. oh my god, I want to cry for the guy right now. I've never seen anything like this. I'm at a loss here. what the fuck. 2 OUTS IN THE 9TH. WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[Loose Cannon]

lol @ the Cleveland runner being shocked even. wow

[McLegend]

lol @ the Cleveland runner being shocked even. wow

lol that's the best part.

Everyone on Cleveland looked like they were just uncomfortable being on the field after that incident.

[Jeritron]

It's pretty disgusting. I'm just as let down in MLB as I am in the call. Mistakes happen, but I can't believe there was no attempt by the other umpires to discuss it, and stall for MLB to potentially step in.
I don't care if that's something that doesn't happen. In cases like these, in this day and age, it should.

[Splaya]

Even the runner knew he was out. God fucking hate MLB umps

[RP]

shit

[Jeritron]

It's not like NBA refs are any better, or NFL refs through history. At least there has been instant replay instituted there, though.
It should exist in cases like this. If the game has serious consquences, or historical significance, replay should be allowed.

[Splaya]

Exactly, the 3 other main sports all have instant replay. Guess who doesn't?

[McLegend]

Well they do technically have replay.

[Jeritron]

The problem with any potential reversed decision is that it will then lead to people calling for reversals all the time.

Ugh. They should have done something to get it right before that fucking game ended. It's called extenuating circumstances.

[owenbrown]

I just saw the video and photographic evidence and fuck yeah he was out clearly. Fucking umpire. Also, sucks Griffey has retired too.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I dunno guys, I agree it sucks but I think everyone's overreacting a bit. Calling for an overhaul of a sport's rules because some kid's stats got hurt is a little strong.

[OssMan]

LOL at that blown call. Amazing

[RP]

I dunno guys, I agree it sucks but I think everyone's overreacting a bit. Calling for an overhaul of a sport's rules because some kid's stats got hurt is a little strong.

Why are you always trying to be the contrarian of the board? You're wrong. Hate to break it to you. It's a huge deal. It's only happend 20 times in 130 years. And almost every pitcher thats done it has been considered the best of the best as far as pitching goes. And if i was a fan at the game, i'd be devestated that i was robbed of a chance of seeing a perfect game live.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, some sort of challenge system for non-HR calls has to be put in place. It really won't take all that long if it needed to be used.

Can't challenge balls and strikes. But you CAN challenge safe/out, catch/trap, etc.

Each manager gets one challenge, and if they get it right they get an additional challenge until they get one wrong. Simple...and if the umps make THAT many bad calls in one game that all those reviews are needed, it'll be a red flag to the league that those umps suck.

I'm sick of old-timers defending the "human element" when the amount of bad calls has never been worse. Mind, as retarded as the Jim Joyce call was...I do feel bad that his reputation is now tarnished and he may end up receiving death threats. But a challenge system will not only prevent this, but also keep fat fucks like Joe West from taking the game into their own hands and trying to stir shit up just to make a name for himself and try to sell his shitty country album.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Furthermore, I have SOME optimism that the call could still get reversed. If it were anything other than out #27, I'd say no. But it was the last out of the game. The game ended there and that last AB didn't happen, simple.</font>

[Skippord]

lol Splaya

[YOUR Hero]

Andres was pretty ok with it. Loved his attitude right after and then again in the interview. Selig should step in and make a favourable ruling. It would be a great move on his part imo.

[Skippord]

Andres?

[Hardkore Kidd J]

They should really reverse the decision. He was out by a fuckin mile.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Why are you always trying to be the contrarian of the board? You're wrong. Hate to break it to you. It's a huge deal. It's only happend 20 times in 130 years. And almost every pitcher thats done it has been considered the best of the best as far as pitching goes. And if i was a fan at the game, i'd be devestated that i was robbed of a chance of seeing a perfect game live.

Right, it's a big deal and it really sucks and I feel bad for the kid, but here's the problem: it didn't affect the outcome of the game. The Tigers still won, and in the end that's all that matters. People are outraged and demanding changing the rules because an ump messed up a kid's stats, not because he made the Tigers have to get an extra out.

I want instant replay. I want something like the NFL challenge system in MLB. But all these people calling for instant replay now when they weren't calling for it before are overreacting and way off base. If umps costing a team a win isn't a good enough reason to install instant replay, then an ump costing a kid a perfect game isn't a good enough reason either.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Selig is consulting with his advisors to decide if the call should be overturned.

Tony La Russa, who is on the advisory board, has already said it should be overturned.

I think it will happen. It was going to be the game-ending play anyway. Why not give him the perfect game that he deserves and at least clear Jim Joyce's name?

I'll lose what little respect I had for Selig if he doesn't reverse the call. I mean, if Fay Vincent can get rid of 50 or so no-nos, Selig can give the guy a perfect game when he clearly had it.</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

If he does it he's doing it for Joyce. The best part of throwing a perfect game is the last out and the celebration. That's gone forever.

[Jeritron]

A perfect game is more than just stats though. It's not about his WHIP or ERA. It's about achieving a baseball milestone, that fans care a lot about. It's the same as other major accomplishments and records, which are more valued among the baseball community and fans than any other sport, arguably.

I agree there are lines. They can't go and reverse the decision after the game has ended, because that opens up the flood gates. I do think that there should have been something more done before they continued with the game, after such a glaring error that so many people cared and would continue to care about. I also think that it should serve as just another eye-opener to making potential changes, though. It's nothing I didn't feel already after some horrible calls in the past few years, including last post season.

[Boomer]

Braves v. Dodgers is gonna be a good series. This road trip is probably going to be brutal for the Braves. They will have played something like 14 more games on the road than at home after this stretch, and they have one of the best home records in baseball.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I don't think reversing this call would open the flood gates. It's such a special situation that will more than likely never happen again.

If it were anything other than the last out, it can't be changed.

If the Indians had gotten another hit or walk or something AFTER the blown call, it can't be changed.

The way it worked out is like the only way I could see it being overturned without opening any flood gates.</font>

[Ermaximus]

Damn. When did the Braves get so good again? Last time I checked they were dead last in the NL East and now they are 2 1/2 games up on the Phillies. WTF?

[Boomer]

Damn. When did the Braves get so good again? Last time I checked they were dead last in the NL East and now they are 2 1/2 games up on the Phillies. WTF?

Ever since Bobby fixed the line-up (Prado 1, Heyward 2), and ever since Troy Glaus starting fucking raking the ball. Pretty amazing since Chipper and McCann haven't been hitting well at all and have both been injured off and on, and everyone who isn't Jason Heyward had been sucking in the outfield (though Eric Hinske worked his way into a starting platoon in LF). The pitching has been consistently good all season (even with Jurrjens out).

I would attribute a lot of the Braves' success to having one of the best benches in baseball as well. David Ross and Omar Infante could start for a lot of baseball teams (and probably will once their contracts expire).

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Don't let David Ross fool you. He's not a starter. As a spot starter for the Reds in 07 his OPS was .932. The next season he was the starter out of spring training and his OPS that year was .670

[McLegend]

And the Phillies really suck. That's also really important.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Great defensive catcher though.

[Boomer]

Don't let David Ross fool you. He's not a starter. As a spot starter for the Reds in 07 his OPS was .932. The next season he was the starter out of spring training and his OPS that year was .670

He's better than Corky Miller. That's all Braves fans needed to hear.

[DaveWadding]

Only good thing David Ross ever did was hit a HR off this guy:

http://www.markgrace.com/gracephotos/gracepitch2.jpg

[ClockShot]

General Motors gives Tigers pitcher Armando Gallarraga a brand new 2010 Chevy Corvette Convertible for his near-perfect game.

Talk about a city/fanbase having your back. Classy.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Bud Selig: "Jim Joyce didn't screw Galarraga. Galarraga screwed Galarraga!"

*During his next start Galarraga writes JAPAN in the air and walks off the mound*</font>

[McLegend]

Bud Selig will not reverse the call.

[Innovator]

If it happened to Buckholz, it would've been reversed last night.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Gotta love Selig's attitude: I will acknowledge that the call was wrong and that the player was clearly out, but the hell if I'm going to make that official!

Horrible Commissioner. Only 2.5 more years of his crap.</font>

[Loose Cannon]

jesus christ. Fucking angry about this :mad:

[Droford]

I wish they had the HR instant replay back in 1996.

[MVP]

Let's ignore the blown call and realize what's actually happened here. This is the third "perfect" game in MLB this year, and this one was less than a week separated from the last one. What is going on with the pitching this year? All of a sudden we've had a no-hitter, 2 perfect games, 1 game that should be a perfect game, and several near no-hitters.

As of today
20 NL starters have ERAs less than 3.00
19 NL starters have WHIPs less than 1.20
20 AL starters have ERA less than 3.50 and 9 of them under 3.00
17 AL starters have WHIPs less than 1.20

There are obviously more stats we can look at, but I don't think it's entire poor hitting because the lists are mostly comprised of aces and other very pitchers with the exception of Livan Hernandez who should fall off the face of the earth soon. Just makes you wonder how pitching so dominant this year.

[Innovator]

I believe the answer is Phillip Joseph Hughes

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Joyce's son has been getting death threats through Facebook.

Guess that's not a good enough reason to overturn it either. GG Selig</font> :y:

[Splaya]

You know it's sad because I feel that we have handled the situation well. Pisses me off that some Tigers fans have acted this way. We all have a right to be pissed off.

With that said, I no longer blame Jim Joyce. He's human, he made a mistake, he admitted to it, let's move on.

I'm fucking pissed with Selig though. Has a chance to rectify it and doesn't. Hope whoever the new commissioner is takes the hit away when he gets in office and gives Galaragga his perfect game

[Jeritron]

Bud Selig's legacy is going to be the Steroid Era, a called All-Star Game, Interleague Play, and failure to reverse the most contreversial call in regular season history.

He should put Pete Rose on the HOF ballot as soon as possible, and do something of merit.

[Droford]

If they overturn this call, then I want them to overturn that jeffrey meier "homer" back in 1996 and replay the entire 1996 ALCS..

Its only fair..this was a meaningless regular season game..that was the ALCS.

[DaveWadding]

God, shut the fuck up.

[Splaya]

Droford, which team do you root for?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

At least this way Selig took the heat off Joyce and put it squarely on himself. He's already hated by baseball fans everywhere, so what's one more injustice?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Milt Pappas called Selig an idiot. Nice.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

This could actually do wonders for Galarraga's career. He's getting a ton of publicity, he's going to have sympathetic strike zones for at least the rest of this season, and he's got some pretty powerful motivation to make him work harder.
Plus we'll be talking about this for a lot longer than if there was no controversy. Dallas Braden has already faded back into obscurity. But this is gonna last. And that will only be good for him.

[Evil Vito]

This could actually do wonders for Galarraga's career. He's getting a ton of publicity, he's going to have sympathetic strike zones for at least the rest of this season, and he's got some pretty powerful motivation to make him work harder.
Plus we'll be talking about this for a lot longer than if there was no controversy. Dallas Braden has already faded back into obscurity. But this is gonna last. And that will only be good for him.

<font color=goldenrod>Good points. Umps are gonna feel really sorry for the guy. I actually wonder how Jim Joyce's strikezone was today for the Tigers.

Plus, I have a feeling that Galarraga will eventually get his perfecto made official. I'm not sure Selig will cave in under the pressure, but his successor may change it when he comes in. Either way, it will be remembered forever, and will probably never happen again in those exact same circumstances.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Some gayass minor leaguer for the Nationals barrel-rolled into Daniel Murphy's plant leg during yesterday's AAA game. Torn MCL, out 4-6 months. He had sprained that same MCL near the end of spring and had only just started playing in games again. With Ike Davis now entrenched at 1B, Murph was going to be playing 1B, 2B, 3B, and LF and try to be a utility guy in the big leagues.

Really sucks. Hope he's back to full speed for ST in 2011. The Syracuse manager sat the player that dove into him for today's game cause he knew he would be plunked.</font>

[Droford]

Droford, which team do you root for?

the Orioles.

[RP]

Only good thing David Ross ever did was hit a HR off this guy:

http://www.markgrace.com/gracephotos/gracepitch2.jpg


:lol: Good times

[OssMan]

"inb4" Andress Gallaraga throws a perfect game in his next start

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I'm just glad that Joyce is not to blame anymore. The guy was a complete wreck. I feel very bad for Joyce. He owned up to his mistake he was truly sorry about it. Bud had the power to change this mess but Selig did nothing. Fuck You Bud Selig.

[RP]

Big Cat

[Big Fat Mike]

General Motors gives Tigers pitcher Armando Gallarraga a brand new 2010 Chevy Corvette Convertible for his near-perfect game.

Talk about a city/fanbase having your back. Classy.

Weren't they crying to congress for bailout money a year ago? And now they're giving away cars to people who DIDN'T throw perfect games? Fuck GM, fuck Detroit, and FUCK ARMANDO GALLARRAGA

[Emperor Smeat]

Not surprised at Bud Selig doing nothing even though the play after the mess up ended as an out so even with the blown call, the game wouldn't have been affected if he reversed the blown call.

[Triple Naitch]

Don't really know what anybody has to gain from it being switched. As said earlier in the thread, the biggest part is the celebration. Good for Selig taking the heat off Joyce.

Plus it's a fucking meaningless June game between two Midwest teams. Why send the guy's kid death threats on facebook?

[McLegend]

Becuase people are dumb.

[ClockShot]

Word around Baltimore is that Dave Trembley is gonna get axed before tomorrow's game.

[Droford]

Dave Trembley was fired by the O's..

wonder why...

Worst Starts through 54 games Since 1940:


17 37 1941 Phillies
16 38 1942 Phillies
16 38 1962 Mets
15 39 2010 Orioles
14 40 2003 Tigers
14 40 1952 Pirates
13 41 1945 Phillies

[Boomer]

Love me some tense baseball games. Good win for the Braves. Hopefully Saito is ok.

[Crimson]

Aw ,Joyce was in tears in todays game. He made a mistake, owned up to it, let it go. Those stupid fans that are dwelling over this need to get a life.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Just FTR, I'd just like to say this in regards to last night: FUCK YOU, JIM JOYCE AND FUCK YOU AS WELL, BUD SELIG.

Also, LMFAO @ Chevy trying to smooth things over with Galarraga by giving him a new car. Don't they understand a perfect game can't be bought, let alone people's emotions?!

That is all.

[OssMan]

That Jim Joyce video is heartbreaking. Sheesh.

[RP]

Dave Trembley was fired by the O's..

wonder why...

Worst Starts through 54 games Since 1940:


17 37 1941 Phillies
16 38 1942 Phillies
16 38 1962 Mets
15 39 2010 Orioles
14 40 2003 Tigers
14 40 1952 Pirates
13 41 1945 Phillies

apparently the Phillies were fielding a team of retards in the 40's

[YOUR Hero]

Not surprised at Bud Selig doing nothing even though the play after the mess up ended as an out so even with the blown call, the game wouldn't have been affected if he reversed the blown call.
That's exactly why he should reverse it, it doesn't change anything in regard to the outcome of the game, so why not the pitcher the recognition he earned.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, I don't buy Selig's argument that "it would set a bad precedent"

No it wouldn't. An unprecedented circumstance deserves an unprecedented decision.

But whatever. Either way, he will be brought up every time a perfect game is thrown "and so and so has thrown the 21st perfect game in MLB history...although some would say 22nd"</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

You know what's a bad precedent, Bud? Ending a game in a tie.

I've always wondered if Selig was oblivious to everyone else or if he just didn't give a shit what anyone else wanted, but it's become clear it's the latter.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

How many times now has Selig gone against what the players and fans wanted? And he's not doing it to help the sport either. He just does it because he wants to. Hate you, Selig.

[Innovator]

He already knows he's gonna be linked to the Steroid Era, he's just going full heel on his way out.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Even Dubya would be a better Commissioner than Selig</font>

[Skippord]

then baseball would invade hockey

[OssMan]

Hockey would destroy baseball

[Droford]

apparently the Phillies were fielding a team of retards in the 40's
Thats pretty much the reason they were the first professional sports team to hit 10,000 losses.

[Jeritron]

poor William Shatner

[Droford]

poor William Shatner

haha

Im trying to figure out who Juan Samuel looks like

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/654/juansamuelcoach.jpg

[Jeritron]

black William Shatner with a moustache

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>WOOOOOO Mets designate Gary Matthews Jr for assignment :love:

For some reason they called up a 3rd catcher despite Barajas and Blanco being awesome this year, instead of calling up Jesus Feliciano who is hitting like .400 in AAA. Prolly just a temporary move.</font>

[Droford]

the Orioles are on pace to score the fewest runs ever in the modern 162 game era. They're only averaging 3.3 runs a game, and they've only scored 14 runs in their last 7 games (0 tonight so far down 8-0).

[Triple Naitch]

Juan Samuel looks like a Dominican Fred McGriff, ftr.

[ClockShot]

Good A.J. starts the streak, bad A.J. ends it. Such a pity.

[Jeritron]

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slideshows/731/slideshow_73104/display_image.jpg

[OssMan]

Today the section I sat in was 100% Reds fans. One of the most obnoxious fanbases I have encountered so far, which was not I expected from Cincinnati. Apparently the 10 rows of people in front of me were this fan group called the "Rosey Reds" which were just old people and girls who were way too obsessed with the team, like taking 20 pictures of every player they had. But it was the people behind me who were just loud and obnoxious, especially when Adam Dunn came to the plate, they were booing throughout the at-bat, then he got two hits and they shut up until he struck out which was like the second coming of Christ to them. You could probably hear them on TV. Anyway the fucking Nationals beat the Reds which was hilarious. Poor showing Reds fans :n:

[Boomer]

Another great Dodgers Braves game tonight. Injuries are slowly starting to catch up with the Braves, and not having Saito late in the game will probably cost us a few. Braves kept it close, and have our best starters for the rest of the series.

And Heyward with the Platinum Sombrero. Oh well.

[DaveWadding]

The D'Backs won a game. I am speechless.

[Skippord]

That was a weird game

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Today the section I sat in was 100% Reds fans. One of the most obnoxious fanbases I have encountered so far, which was not I expected from Cincinnati. Apparently the 10 rows of people in front of me were this fan group called the "Rosey Reds" which were just old people and girls who were way too obsessed with the team, like taking 20 pictures of every player they had. But it was the people behind me who were just loud and obnoxious, especially when Adam Dunn came to the plate, they were booing throughout the at-bat, then he got two hits and they shut up until he struck out which was like the second coming of Christ to them. You could probably hear them on TV. Anyway the fucking Nationals beat the Reds which was hilarious. Poor showing Reds fans :n:

Sorry about that. Hate Reds fans who hate Dunn because they don't understand baseball.

The Rosey Reds are usually pretty good though. Back when they played at Crosley Field the ladies would bake cakes for players on their birthdays. But that was 50 years ago.

[Droford]

Juan Samuel looks like a Dominican Fred McGriff, ftr.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slideshows/731/slideshow_73104/display_image.jpg

wow..yeah..

I dont think he's the answer as manager, but I have to wonder who would be dumb enough to want to take the job next year. Are there any former managers lurking around that are that desperate? I'm worried that the rumor that they want Rick Dempsey to be the manager, and just from his dumb comments on the Os broadcasts, I cant see him being any better than Trembley.

Rick.....Just a quick FYI....it's not really kosher to make a joke about "Roughing" someone up when a guest is in the booth to promote a Domestic Violence Fundraiser.....
Dempsey: "Laura, will this kind of help Jay in the domestic violence area? If he doesn't start getting a few more hits, you might grab him around the neck and rough him up a little bit. [Is] this money going to go to help him a little bit with maybe some of the hospital bills or something like that?"

• Giuliani: "I don't know, Rick. I don't think I'm encouraging that. I'm definitely not-"

• Dempsey: "Not going there?"

• Giuliani: "Nope, not going there."

• Dempsey: "All right, I'll domestically violate him if he doesn't start getting some more hits."

[Supreme Olajuwon]

What's Davey Johnson up to?

[Droford]

What's Davey Johnson up to?

Still not talking to Peter Angelos.

so very little chance of him coming back to Baltimore as long as Angelos is still around.

Here are some names being thrown around on various Os fan pages:

Buck Showalter
Tom Kelley
Phil Garner
Eric Wedge
Bobby Valentine

Aside from Showalter, none of those excite me and I doubt any of them would consider the job for longer than 2 minutes anyway..

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>WOOOOO. In a 24 hour span the Mets have DFA'ed Gary Matthews Jr along with placing Luis Castillo AND Oliver Perez on the DL. Probably the three guys every Met fan wanted off the team.</font>

[YOUR Hero]

Is Beltran about to come off the DL?

[ClockShot]

Hmmmmmm. This Blue Jays team ain't screwing around this year. Could pose a problem down the line.

[RP]

whats the record for most HR's given by a pitcher in a single season? Demster has a serious shot at it.

[Droford]

whats the record for most HR's given by a pitcher in a single season? Demster has a serious shot at it.

NL record is held by that recently dead pitcher with the really hot wife @ 48 back in 2000, AL/MLB record is 50 by Bert Blyleven in 1986.

Demptser has only given up 10 through 11 starts so he wont even come close. Lima had given up 22 in his first 11 starts and Blyleven had given up 19 through 11.

[Droford]

Ive never seen a ball hit within a few inches of the foul pole to the left and land directly behind the foul pole before, until tonight. Thankfully it was called a foul ball even after video review.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Mets seriously need to get some traveling shrinks to make them think they're playing at home when they're on the road.

Shrink: "You are at Citi Field."
Mets: "We are at Citi Field."
Shrink: "So you will win the game."
Mets: "So we will win the game."
Shrink: "You will give it 110%."
Mets: "That's impossible. Nobody can give more than 100%. By definition 100% is the most that one can give."</font>

[Evil Vito]

Is Beltran about to come off the DL?

<font color=goldenrod>Despite the fact that he's playing in games, the team isn't expecting him back until after the All-Star Break. :o

It's really not a big deal right now as Pagan has been amazing and Francoeur's on one of his hot streaks. Once he cools off again I'll be clamoring for Beltran.</font>

[Droford]

Os are losing 2-0, had the bases loaded on 3 walks by Lester and didnt score. Possibly game number 37 this season with 3 or fewer runs.

On their way to 15-41, which would be a worse record than the 62 mets through 56 games and they went on to go 40-120-1 which is the modern 162 game record for fewest wins.

[Jeritron]

I love getting hourly Orioles and Mets updates

[DaveWadding]

The Arizona Diamondbacks are leading the Colorado Rockies 1-0 in the Bottom of the 6th inning.

[Jeritron]

hooray for Skippord

[Splaya]

D-TRAIN

[Cooler Tom Schuler]

<font color=goldenrod>Mets seriously need to get some traveling shrinks to make them think they're playing at home when they're on the road.

Shrink: "You are at Citi Field."
Mets: "We are at Citi Field."
Shrink: "So you will win the game."
Mets: "So we will win the game."
Shrink: "You will give it 110%."
Mets: "That's impossible. Nobody can give more than 100%. By definition 100% is the most that one can give."</font>

Gilligan's Island reference. I'll take it.

[Droford]

Buck Rogers in 1980 took over as manager of the Brewers 15-2 and that was the worst loss by a team in their manager's debut. Juan Samuel lost 11-0 in his debut..

I guess this doesn't count Dave Trembley when he lost 30-3 to the Rangers on the same day the Os announced that they removed the "interim" tag and made him the permanent manager..

[OssMan]

Watching the Orioles play the Red Sox at home is so sad. It is so disgraceful how many Red Sox fans filled up that stadium. I seriously wanted to cry at the end of this game.

[Emperor Smeat]

Buck Rogers in 1980 took over as manager of the Brewers 15-2 and that was the worst loss by a team in their manager's debut. Juan Samuel lost 11-0 in his debut..

I guess this doesn't count Dave Trembley when he lost 30-3 to the Rangers on the same day the Os announced that they removed the "interim" tag and made him the permanent manager..

Was that the game where the closer for the Rangers actually ended up with a save due to some weird loop-hole in the rule?

Orioles main problem is their bullpen and part of their starting pitching since they are getting hits and scoring (although not as much this year) but their bullpen ends up like the Rangers and kills most of their potential wins.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Buck Rogers in the 24th and a half century.

[Jeritron]

Big day for Droford

[Evil Vito]

Gilligan's Island reference. I'll take it.

<font color=goldenrod>Simpsons, actually. Homer at the Bat 4tw</font> :love:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Mets come back from a 5-run deficit to sweep the Marlins. Sweet.

Didn't see the game though, went to go see the Binghamton Mets (Mets' AA team) play the New Britain Rock Cats (Twins' AA team). Reese Havens looks really good, possibly the 2B in 2012 (or even 2011 depending on what happens to Castillo). Kirk Nieuwenhuis also was pretty impressive.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Assuming he doesn't start the game before, I think we can pencil Ubaldo in as the NL Starting Pitcher right now.</font>

[DaveWadding]

U - baldo can't touch this.

[DaveWadding]

even the 2 runs he gave up today were kind of a fluke. Conor was just sitting on a changeup and it was long gone.

[Skippord]

I don't think Ubaldo should have pitched that inning

[Boomer]

Great Dodgers Braves series. Would love to see a playoff series as tense as all these games.

[Droford]

Big day for Droford

I didnt hear but the last two innings cause I went to a minor league baseball game, which the Os affiliate won 4-3.

Was really happy to hear the Os win on the way home though.

[Skippord]

this Buehrle-meter stuff on baseball tonight is really annoying

[ClockShot]

So is anybody even remotely interested in the draft today?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>You know, thinking about it...Ubaldo, Halladay, Lincecum, Wainwright, Johnson, Pelfrey, Broxton, Marmol

If all of those guys are healthy and available, the NL may actually win this year :o

Problem is, you aren't allowed to pitch in the game if you start the Sunday beforehand. Watch like half of those guys end up pitching that last day and become ineligible for participation.</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

So is anybody even remotely interested in the draft today?
Never been too interested in the MLB draft because it's such a crap shoot and most players won't be heard from ever again. And the ones that do make it don't show up for years.

Unless you're super sexy like Mike Leake. :heart:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Mets will be going SP in the draft I'm sure, think there is a guy from UNC they are looking at, name escapes me. There are some solid bats coming up through the system now but they are still strapped for starting pitching prospects.

People keep calling into WFAN saying the Mets need to push hard for Cliff Lee. But I dunno. That move may very well put them into contention right through the end of the season, but it'd mean parting with most of the top prospects in the organization, including Jenrry Mejia. The system seems like it's only just now being re-stocked, so I can't see it being worthwhile especially since Lee has said numerous times that he will test the free agent market no matter what, and the Mets won't outbid a lot of the teams trying for him. If Lee agreed to an extension I'd say go for it, but shit like that doesn't happen in mid-season.

I mean look at the Brewers. Hindsight is 20/20 and all but I'm sure given how their '08 postseason went they would have rather not made the Sabathia deal. And even then, there was a more logical case for the Brewers making the trade since it'd been like 20 years between playoff appearances as opposed to 4 for the Mets.</font>

[Innovator]

I loved a couple weeks ago when a Met fan called up saying YES is biased towards the Yankees

[Loose Cannon]

Just FTR, I'd just like to say this in regards to last night: FUCK YOU, JIM JOYCE AND FUCK YOU AS WELL, BUD SELIG.

Also, LMFAO @ Chevy trying to smooth things over with Galarraga by giving him a new car. Don't they understand a perfect game can't be bought, let alone people's emotions?!

That is all.

There's a hillarious Mastercard commercial to be made about this Perfect Game somewhere

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I mean look at the Brewers. Hindsight is 20/20 and all but I'm sure given how their '08 postseason went they would have rather not made the Sabathia deal. And even then, there was a more logical case for the Brewers making the trade since it'd been like 20 years between playoff appearances as opposed to 4 for the Mets.

I dunno about that. They got to the playoffs and LaPorta's been pretty terrible for the Indians. They were a sinking ship anyway so at least they got a nice run to the playoffs first.

[Evil Vito]

I dunno about that. They got to the playoffs and LaPorta's been pretty terrible for the Indians. They were a sinking ship anyway so at least they got a nice run to the playoffs first.

<font color=goldenrod>True. Plus without looking, weren't LaPorta's 2 main positions LF and 1B? ie: the only two places the Brewers had no vacancies</font>

[Skippord]

So is anybody even remotely interested in the draft today?
I'm going to watch to see who the Rockies draft so I can do some research on them

and so I can see Dante Bichette

[Loose Cannon]

Yankee fanbase here; I am going to see the Yankees AAA team play Chalrotte Knights this Wed. anybody I should be keeping an eye out for? I don't really pay attention to thier minor league team

[Innovator]

Jesus Montero is supposed to be good. Catcher.

[Loose Cannon]

I saw him on the roster. I also saw Kei Igawa :lol:

[Innovator]

1.2 IP, 11 R, 14 H

[Loose Cannon]

lol christ

[Innovator]

I might have been exaggerating....by .1 innings pitched

[Innovator]

either way, but I remember those games fondly.

[Loose Cannon]

apparently the Phillies were fielding a team of retards in the 40's

speaking about a team of retards, check out the 1899 Cleveland Spiders

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Guessing the Mets will get one of:

3B/2B Zack Cox
C/SS Justin O'Conner
OF Bryce Bentz
RHP Matt Harvey</font>

[DaveWadding]

Peter Gammons just called Matt Wieters retarded.

[Droford]

Peter Gammons just called Matt Wieters retarded.

uh..what?


Watching the draft..the Os are supposed to take Machado who is a good SS and they dont have any decent SS in the entire organization.

[DaveWadding]

Major League Baseball Network Analyst Peter Gammons just called Baltimore Orioles catcher Matthew Wieters retarded.

[Droford]

Major League Baseball Network Analyst Peter Gammons just called Baltimore Orioles catcher Matthew Wieters retarded.
no he didn't, he said his growth has been retarded by the team because they won't let him call games.

[ClockShot]

Jesus Montero is supposed to be good. Catcher.

Yeah, Monstero is really up there on the list. Nova as well. Also you'll keep an eye on the guys who have seen big league action already. Melancon, Alba, Golson, Sanchez, Miranda, and Boone Logan sucks. If he comes out of the bullpen, boo him.

[ClockShot]

Brew Crew release Jeff Suppan.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Matt Harvey it is.</font>

[Droford]

Matt Harvey it is.

wonder if he's any relation to Jeff Harvey?

haha

Delino Deshields JR! His father was from up the road a little.

[Dragon]

Yeah, there really isn't much to look out for in terms of prospects in AAA. Montero is obviously the big one. McAllister and Nova (starting pitchers) are the only other bigger ones. Then there's border-line guys and relievers and stuff.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Note sure how I feel about Harvey. Has potential obviously, but seeing his delivery he looks exactly like John Maine. Chris Sale was probably the safer bet, but the Mets are afraid to go over slot.</font>

[ClockShot]

:lol:

Jim Joyce dodges another bullet.

[Skippord]

literally?

[ClockShot]

Nah. Joyce is behind home plate at the phils/padres game and Hamels had a no hitter going through 6. A-Gon took care of that with a home run.

No worries for him now.

[Skippord]

so the Rockies drafted Clemson's starting quarterback

interesting

[ClockShot]

Yankees just drafted this High School SS from Upstate NY.

I guess they see the next Derek Jeter in him......

[Nervous Ferret]

Kyle Parker!!! :wavesad: Love that guy. As "sick" as he was last year at QB I am pretty sure he won't pass up the $1 million+ signing bonus he will get

[Emperor Smeat]

MLB draft is the only draft out of the main leagues that I barely ever get interested in following. I understand why they have it during the middle of the season since MLB season is very long but they could do better by waiting until after college baseball finishes its playoffs.

At the same time all the draft picks except the occasional "big" name pick ends up waiting a few years in the minors leagues although to be fair NHL is sort of similar with its draft picks most of the time.

[RP]

Thanks for Carlos Silva Seattle! Hows Milton Bradley working out??//?//?

[OssMan]

nats took BRYCE HARPER

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Yankees just drafted this High School SS from Upstate NY.

I guess they see the next Derek Jeter in him......

What makes you say that? If you mean the next shortstop after Derek Jeter then yeah maybe. The kid is only 17 he could take the Shortstop role when he's like 20 or 21. But, the way you say it it almost seems like the Yankees are thinking that this Culven guy will be as great as Jeter as a shortstop. I never read anything that says they did. I did read that Culven's favorite player is Derek Jeter.

But, I don't think I have ever read anything about them seeing another Derek Jeter in him. Other then the fact that he might play shortstop and come from the minors like him and be good for the Yankees when/if he gets called up to the big leagues.

I don't think there will be another DJ. At best this kid will be a good shortstop and work out good on our team 3-4 maybe 5 years from now.

[Big Fat Mike]

nats took BRYCE HARPER

WTF the Nationals are going to dominate in 5 years

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Yeah, there really isn't much to look out for in terms of prospects in AAA. Montero is obviously the big one. McAllister and Nova (starting pitchers) are the only other bigger ones. Then there's border-line guys and relievers and stuff.

Would Romine be under the Borderline stuff? I had always thought Romine was a good prospect. All though he might be in Double AA for all I know.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Predict Strasburg's line

5 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 3 BB, 5 K, 113 million inflated expectations

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Also just a head's up for you guys but I'm gonna probably be really pissy about this Strasburg hype cause ESPN is already talking about how Strasburg will be battling Jason Heyward as the only two candidates for rookie of the year. Fuck you, ESPN.

[Skippord]

I'm already pretty upset about ESPN saying that as soon as Strasburg comes up he'll be the best pitcher in baseball.

[Innovator]

CG, 2 H, 3 BB, 25 K

[Skippord]

I think you're being a bit generous with the 2 hits

[Innovator]

What was I thinking

Anything less than a no hitter is a failure, according to ESPN

[Skippord]

ESPN is already naming him the winner of the Cy Young and the NL's starter

[ClockShot]

What makes you say that? If you mean the next shortstop after Derek Jeter then yeah maybe. The kid is only 17 he could take the Shortstop role when he's like 20 or 21. But, the way you say it it almost seems like the Yankees are thinking that this Culven guy will be as great as Jeter as a shortstop. I never read anything that says they did. I did read that Culven's favorite player is Derek Jeter.

But, I don't think I have ever read anything about them seeing another Derek Jeter in him. Other then the fact that he might play shortstop and come from the minors like him and be good for the Yankees when/if he gets called up to the big leagues.

I don't think there will be another DJ. At best this kid will be a good shortstop and work out good on our team 3-4 maybe 5 years from now.

Most of the Yankee fan sites, Baseball America, and KLaw all thought we were getting Christian Yellich. Marlins took him before us and the next best thing was Castellanos (sp?.)

Keep in mind Damon Oppenheimer the Yankees Scouting Director was calling the shots. Cashman or Hal Steinbrenner didn't have a real say in it.

I guess what I'm saying is, nobody saw this coming. So we're all kinda scratching our heads right now.

[OssMan]

Strasburg definitely not going longer than 5 IP. Might try and go to the game tonight. Tickets are mad expensive but supposedly they should be cheaper right before the game. Worth a try

[Nervous Ferret]

Strasburg 6.1 IP, 2 H, 2 BB, 1 R (unearned), 4Ks

[Triple Naitch]

5.2 6 hits 0 ER 7Ks

[Skippord]

ESPN has a countdown timer

[MVP]

5.0 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 6 K

[ClockShot]

Strasburg definitely not going longer than 5 IP. Might try and go to the game tonight. Tickets are mad expensive but supposedly they should be cheaper right before the game. Worth a try

Last I heard it's standing room only.

[McLegend]

He's going to be lights out tonight.

7IP 10Ks 1 ER, and 100 pitches.

[Skippord]

I doubt they let him throw a hundred pitches

[McLegend]

Yeah probably.

[McLegend]

I loved a couple weeks ago when a Met fan called up saying YES is biased towards the Yankees

LOL

[OssMan]

Not going. Decided not to even try, don't feel like going. Fucking Nationals Park sold out, what is this. Haven't seen that since they opened the park or maybe opening day when a bunch of shithead Philly fans made up 75% of the crowd. It is going to be all Nationals "fans" too even though half the people there will be there just because it's a big deal.

[DaveBrawl]

I wonder how the Nats tickets for the series against the White Sox will be next weekend. My brother is a big fan of the Sox, but there is likely little chance we would be getting tickets if Strasburg pitches that Saturday which is the way it would appear just looking if he pitches every 5 games. It's a Fox game too so I bet it is him.

[Nervous Ferret]

good lord strasburg. K's for 6 of the first 9 outs. Still hasn't faced a major league team yet tho (lol the pirates)

[Droford]

Fuck the Grandyman

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>God I wish Strasburg didn't play in the same division as the Mets</font> :(

[OssMan]

I have never seen a Nationals strike out 14 before :(

[FakeLaser]

Filthy

[Droford]

I can hardly wait to see him set the MLB record for strikeouts vs the Orioles in a couple of weeks.

[Emperor Smeat]

Tim Wakefield now owns Red Sox record for most innings pitched by a pitcher. Ended up toppling Roger Clemens who used to own the record.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>About ready to officially pencil Pelfrey in for an ASG spot. Nasty.</font>

[ClockShot]

14 K's for Strasborg?

That's just fucking wrong. Granted it's only the quadruple A Pirates. Let's see how he goes up against the Cardinals or Phillies or Padres.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol Chris Carter walks up to Hogan's theme

I AM A REAL AMERICAN</font>

[DaveBrawl]

I wonder how the Nats tickets for the series against the White Sox will be next weekend. My brother is a big fan of the Sox, but there is likely little chance we would be getting tickets if Strasburg pitches that Saturday which is the way it would appear just looking if he pitches every 5 games. It's a Fox game too so I bet it is him.

Sweet got some tickets a few rows up from the Sox dugout. Strasburg will likely no hit them. :lol:

[Evil Vito]

<ont color=goldenrod>Ike Davis</font> :love:

[Hanso Amore]

Wow m,an,

Strasburg

[Triple Naitch]

Didn't think Strasburg could exceed expectations, but he did.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

That Strasberg is fuckin awesome man. If this is anything like Bryce Harper you guys in the NL East are in big trouble in about 2-3 years.

[Jeritron]

Pretty insane

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yeah really amazing debut last night. 14 K's and no walks is insanely good for any pitcher, let alone a guy in his first game. Granted a lot of those were the Pirates shitting themselves in the spotlight and swinging at garbage, but still.

[MVP]

Hopefully he's not the second coming of Mark Prior.

[Innovator]

I can't wait for the inevitable Yankees/Red Sox bidding war over him

[Dragon]

Would Romine be under the Borderline stuff? I had always thought Romine was a good prospect. All though he might be in Double AA for all I know.

Romine's not in the borderline group, he's probably our second best prospect after Montero. But yeah he is in AA. Really excited about him, he's been hitting well this year in AA.

[Loose Cannon]

The Pirate hitters saw a lot of flashes in the crowd last night and didn't really know what the fuck they were

[Innovator]

They saw a crowd and didn't know where they were

[Skippord]

I wish that the Rockies were facing the Nationals again so there was a possibility of a Strasburg/Jimenez matchup

[OssMan]

Yeah really amazing debut last night. 14 K's and no walks is insanely good for any pitcher, let alone a guy in his first game. Granted a lot of those were the Pirates shitting themselves in the spotlight and swinging at garbage, but still.
First time in history anyone has had 14 K's and no walks apparently.

[RP]

Comon Zambrano. Give us a good start tonight.

[RP]

Fuck ya Marlon!