NFL 2010 Season Thread

[IC Champion]

God damn Adrian Peterson.

[Kris P Lettus]

No..

I'm not trying to diminish what Austin has done, I'm just saying that he reminds me of Lance Moore.. It's just that he is a "spotlight" reciever while Moore is a role player.. Do I think he should be higher on the depthchart than Colston, Meachum, and Henderson?? Maybe.. But I am not gonna question Sean Payton..

If Lance Moore was on ANY other team, he'd be top ten in stats every year..

[IC Champion]

Well only time will tell.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Lance Moore is not in Miles Austin's league.

Miles Austin is not in Andre Johnson's league.

This is incredibly obvious. Why are any of you trying to argue differently?

[IC Champion]

Miles Austin is definetly in Andre Johnson's league.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol Gayboys</font>

[IC Champion]

Andre is the more accomplished of the two, and probably is better, but it's not by much.

[Kris P Lettus]

Lance Moore is not in Miles Austin's league.

Miles Austin is not in Andre Johnson's league.

This is incredibly obvious. Why are any of you trying to argue differently?

I agree Austin and Moore are not top 3 WR's..

[IC Champion]

Ok Johnson is one, whos two and three?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Miles Austin is definetly in Andre Johnson's league.

No he's not. You might think so, and you're more than welcome to think that way, but your opinion is based on what jersey each player is wearing.

And you can try to argue that it's not based on your fan allegiances, but I wont' believe you.

[IC Champion]

Jersey has nothing to do with, but I wont waste my time anymore than.

[IC Champion]

And in the last 16 games Austin has outgained every other reciver in the league.

[Kris P Lettus]

And in the last 16 games Austin has outgained every other reciver in the league.

Maybe because Roy Williams is shit and Dez Bryant is a rookie??

[IC Champion]

Williams is tearing it up this year, and Witten and Crayton were on the team.

[Kris P Lettus]

Witten is an awesome TE but he'll never have the numbers as a number 1 WR..

Crayton is a role player..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Ok Johnson is one, whos two and three?

I would take Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Reggie Wayne, Brandon Marshall, Calvin Johnson, and probably Randy Moss over Austin. I'd put Austin in the next tier of receivers with Roddy White, Greg Jennings, etc.

Austin's very good. But he's not elite.

[IC Champion]

Maybe because Roy Williams is shit and Dez Bryant is a rookie??

Also, wouldnt that make it harder on Austin? Couldnt you just focus the safetys on him, and double him?

[IC Champion]

I would take Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Reggie Wayne, Brandon Marshall, Calvin Johnson, and probably Randy Moss over Austin. I'd put Austin in the next tier of receivers with Roddy White, Greg Jennings, etc.

Austin's very good. But he's not elite.

What does he need to do than? Continue the paces he's on? Put up 2000 receiving yards?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Pretty much.

[IC Champion]

Really, Calivin Johnson?

[Kris P Lettus]

Also, wouldnt that make it harder on Austin? Couldnt you just focus the safetys on him, and double him?

No because y'all have other role players (like Crayton, Williams) at WR and an elite TE..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Really, Calivin Johnson?

Provide 1 reason why he's not elite that isn't based on his stats or the team that he plays for.

[Team Sheep]

LT!!!!!

[Kris P Lettus]

Like I said Earlier, if Brees "spotlighted" any one WR, they'd have top 5 stats for the year, for sure..

[IC Champion]

Provide 1 reason why he's not elite that isn't based on his stats or the team that he plays for.

You may think that, but he's not. Good enough?

[Kris P Lettus]

IN YER FACE SUPREME

[IC Champion]

But seriously, Austin is just as good as Calvin Johnson.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

You may think that, but he's not. Good enough?

Thanks. I think we're done here...

[IC Champion]

Like I said Earlier, if Brees "spotlighted" any one WR, they'd have top 5 stats for the year, for sure..

Yes, maybe, but do you really put Romo in Bresse's catagory?

[IC Champion]

Thanks. I think we're done here...

It was really done here.

No he's not. You might think so, and you're more than welcome to think that way, but your opinion is based on what jersey each player is wearing.

And you can try to argue that it's not based on your fan allegiances, but I wont' believe you.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

But seriously, Austin is just as good as Calvin Johnson.


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[Supreme Olajuwon]

LOL how does that make sense? You're a homer arguing about your team's player. I'm talking about the entire league and haven't mentioned my team once. Nice try, babe.

[Droford]

Cowboys are done! Waiting for the epic implosion..

[IC Champion]

I said he was probably top 3, and based on his play in the last year you can argue that he is. But it's not going to matter because he plays for my team and you're going to view my opinion as biased no matter what. You pretty much stated it from the beginning.

[CSL]

Hakeem Nicks is better than any receiver in the history of all time ever. Peace.

[McLegend]

Awesome

[IC Champion]

Hakeem Nicks sucks and is over rated, fuck the Giants.

[Droford]

i thought for 1/2 a second romo was gonna take that ball into the endzone

[IC Champion]

No but Nicks been pretty good in the last few games.

[IC Champion]

Stupid turnovers, and no discipline is going to keep killing the Cowboys.

[Kris P Lettus]

lol Cowboys

[IC Champion]

Its really been surreal to watch game after game, I mean to think this time last year Roy Williams was probably our biggest problem.

[Team Sheep]

OMG Jets game.

[Team Sheep]

Oh yeah. Grinding it out on the road. Beautiful. 5-1 and a week off :cool:

[Emperor Smeat]

As bad as the Chargers have been, the rest of the AFC West has been horrible besides the initial 3-0 start by the Chiefs. Last place Chargers just 1-1.5 games behind from 1st place.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Can't believe the Broncos are only 2-4. They seem so much better than that.

[IC Champion]

Can't believe the Broncos are only 2-4. They seem so much better than that.

I'd feel worse for them if my team wasn't in the midst of a meltdown, I was expecting them to contend for a playoff spot with the Chargers no longer beign what they were.

[FearedSanctity]

Can't believe the Broncos are only 2-4. They seem so much better than that.

They are. The problem is, aside from this game because I didn't see the first 3.5 quarters, they start slow because they insist on trying to run. The losses to the Colts and Ravens in particular can be blamed for this. I think both games combined total yardage for the first quarter would be something like 40-50 yards, with 60-70% of the plays called having been runs. Then throughout the rest of the game they insist on trying to get it to work instead of just throwing, which teams have had great difficulty stopping itself.

TL;DR Denver loses because they can't run but they keep trying anyway

[Droford]

Ravens are 4-2..

Gotta think they'll win next week vs Buffalo..5-2 into the bye week with a winnable game vs Miami at home after. 6-2 through the first half is about as good as I expected. After that they have winnable game vs Atlanta on Thursday Night Football, and road games vs the Panthers and Bucs that should be wins easily, which puts them at 8-3/9-2 going into the tough part of their remaining schedule (pittsburgh SNF, @ Houston MNF, New Orleans). Im really hoping they flex that Saints Game to SNF (and dont say they wont because its 3 weeks of primetime games, Pittsburgh has 3 straight primetime games vs New Orleans/Cincy/New England)

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I think we just saw the reinvention of the team that won 3 Superbowls inside of 4 years. Randy was nothing more than a deep threat that Brady was using as a crutch to draw double coverage so he could hit Wes Welker. If the random pass is incomplete it basically means you are punting on the set of downs.

The championship teams were all about short routes including screen passes that substituted for a real running game. Deion Branch seems to be fitting back into his old slot. Also winning by a field goal made me think back to all of those victories by Adam Vinateri game winning field goals.

The old pats were also about making great half time reads and coming back to dominate the last 30 minutes of the game. I know that it's only one game with Branch, but it felt like the Pats were finally back on track.

[RP]

Tony Romo is horrible. If he gets any pressure, he shits himself. I honestly think Jeff Garcia is better then Tony Romo.

[SammyG]

How in fucks name do you think you're going to beat the Chargers?
lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll. Love our defense so much. Bradford is going to be absolutely amazing in 2 years. Hell, he's pretty good already. Jackson looked good today too, really closed that game out with those runs in the end. Pretty excited about Rams football, feels phenomenal after the last 3 years.

[RP]

I think Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Reggie Wayne and Larry Fitzgerald are all better the Miles Austin.

[Nark Order]

NINERS!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Troy Aikman thinks Miles Austin is the 2nd best receiver in the league.

Didn't he have to leave the NFL because of severe brain damage/concussions? That's the only way he'd make that statement.

[SammyG]

What a terrible football game SF-OAK was

[Team Sheep]

Really wanna see the Niners make the play offs now for a laugh.

[McLegend]

Kevin Kolb is pretty good.

[RP]

Peyton Manning time!

I think Pierre Garcon is about to have a huge game.

[Kris P Lettus]

I got the Skins winning this game..

(not a shot at RP)

[RoXer]

Larry
Megatron
Brandon Marshall
Reggie Wayne
Andre Johnson
Randy Moss
Wes Welker
Santonio Holmes
Ochocinco
TO
Anquan Boldin
Heins Ward


Are better than Miles Austin

[IC Champion]

Hasn't Manning never won in Washington or something?

[RoXer]

But I'm not knocking Miles Austin. Lotta good recievers out there

[RP]

sick hit

[IC Champion]

Larry
Megatron
Brandon Marshall
Reggie Wayne
Andre Johnson
Randy Moss
Wes Welker
Santonio Holmes
Ochocinco
TO
Anquan Boldin
Heins Ward


Are better than Miles Austin

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/10/quite-a-16-game-run-for-miles.html

Over the last 16 games, Austin has 107 catches for 1,713 yards and 12 touchdowns. He had 76 catches for 1,239 yards and 10 touchdowns after being put into the starting lineup last year and through four games this year he has 31 catches for 474 yards and two touchdowns.

For comparison's sake, Austin's yardage total would be the fifth-best single-season total in NFL history. Only Jerry Rice (1,848 in 1995), Isaac Bruce (1,781 in 1995), Charley Hennigan (1,746 in 1961) and Marvin Harrison (1,722 in 2002) had more yards.

Of course, at his current pace in 2010, Austin would break Rice's single-season record for yards in a season with 1,896. He is on pace for 124 catches, which would be second-best in NFL history.



That's some elite company right there.

[RP]

Shanahan already making a blunder by kicking off

[RP]

FUCK

[RP]

Colts offensive line is terrible this year. I dont think they can go to the Superbowl as is. I wish they trade for one of those O linemen holding out or something.

[ClockShot]

Can't believe the Broncos are only 2-4. They seem so much better than that.

Running game is gone. Marshall is gone. Defense is in disarray yet again.

Pretty much what FearedSanctity said already. Orton's passing game is top notch this season, but McDevil doesn't know what he's doing.

Another year for a Denver Broncos fan. :'(

[Kris P Lettus]

That should have been a pick..

[Droford]

I have Austin/Boldin/Wayne/White on one of my fantasy teams and it pains me weekly to pick 3 out of the 4 because the one I dont pick usually goes off and one of the ones I keep doesnt show up (like today, benched roddy white who at least had a better day than "Miles is only 12 yards in the NFL Austin")

[RP]

JERRAUD POWERS!!!!!!!

[RP]

PIERRE GARCON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I TOLD YOU BITCHES!

[RoXer]

How often do the Cowboys run the ball?

[RP]

holy shit its Hunter the Punter. I miss that guy.

[IC Champion]

How often do the Cowboys run the ball?

Depends really, not much as much this season though.

[IC Champion]

I really don't care for empty backfield sets.

[RoXer]

I think it was 80-20 was what I heard.

Somebody better be breaking receiving records with that distribution. Passing records too.

[IC Champion]

Nah closer to 60-40 but that gap has probably narrowed after today.

[RP]

bad defense

[RP]

Ryan Torain will look like a superstar tonight.

[Droford]

Let the Torrain Fall!

[Droford]

Nah closer to 60-40 but that gap has probably narrowed after today.

I dont know if it includes todays stats or not but it was 120 rushes/334 total plays which is like 35/65 run to pass

[Kris P Lettus]

What happened to Portis??

[RP]

wtf is Manning trying to throw picks tonight? Washington dont want them.

[IC Champion]

I dont know if it includes todays stats or not but it was 120 rushes/334 total plays which is like 35/65 run to pass

Actually it's like 37% to more accurate.

Those numbers can be a bit deceiving though, since the Cowboys use alot of screen passes which are essentially runs.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

What happened to Portis??

He's hurt. There is no way Portis is the starter when he comes back though. Torrain is kicking too much ass right now to be benched.

Has Berman already made his Bermanism "Torrain in hell"?

[RP]

I mean, the Colts easily have the best WR's in the league. It's not even close.

[RP]

Kenny Moore will be cut Tuesday. What a horrible return man this guy is.

[RP]

Garcon just made one of the best catches i've ever seen.

[FearedSanctity]

Fuuuck, Manning would be leading my comeback in fantasy if it weren't for the other teams only remaining player being Collie

[RP]

i was down 38 points in my money league, but i had Garcon tonight and MJD, Britt and Scobee tommorow. The guy i'm playing had Wayne and Clark tonight.

i'm now down 16 points right now. More balls to Garcon please! I'd like to wrap this up tonight.

[Kris P Lettus]

He's hurt. There is no way Portis is the starter when he comes back though. Torrain is kicking too much ass right now to be benched.

Has Berman already made his Bermanism "Torrain in hell"?

I haven't watched them since the Cowboys game but Torrain looks good.. Then again The Colts run d is pretty bad..

[McLegend]

That DeSean Jackson hit makes me feel concussed.

[Kris P Lettus]

i was down 38 points in my money league, but i had Garcon tonight and MJD, Britt and Scobee tommorow. The guy i'm playing had Wayne and Clark tonight.

i'm now down 16 points right now. More balls to Garcon please! I'd like to wrap this up tonight.

I think you got it with MJD alone, bro..

[RP]

I'm probably suiting up on defense for the Colts Nov 1st.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I'm probably suiting up on defense for the Colts Nov 1st.

Is it a Make a wish thing? :shifty:

[Kris P Lettus]

woooooo

Dunno why I'm pulling for the Skins other than the fact that my step dad is a fan..

Colts winning would help the Saints alot more..

[Kris P Lettus]

haha STD

[Kris P Lettus]

STDs are not funny..

:shifty:

[RP]

I think thats Addai's first 100 yard running game since 2007 or something.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Shake it up!

[Boomer]

That DeSean Jackson hit makes me feel concussed.

I think it was a clean hit, but it certainly wouldn't have changed the game. The Falcons always come out flat-footed early against fast and high-flying offenses. I sometimes get tired of watching the Falcons and their conservative play-calling.

[McLegend]

Yeah I think it was a clean hit to actually. It still makes me feel woosly just thinking about it.

[Emperor Smeat]

Wade Phillips guaranteed to keep his job until at least the end of the season since Jerry Jones stated he won't fire anyone during the season nor look at potential coaches and staff until end of the season.

[Nark Order]

Skins are fucked here probably. Indy gonna wait the clock out.

[Nark Order]

Holy shit. This is a game right here.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Skins are fucked here probably. Indy gonna wait the clock out.

Not so much...what a slam on Dallas Clark!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Yeah I think it was a clean hit to actually. It still makes me feel woosly just thinking about it.

Joe Buck during the baseball game said that he has a concussion with memory loss due to the hit.

[Nark Order]

Ugh looks like game here. Skins :(

[parkmania]

Ben Roethlisberger - 16/27 257yds 3TD 1 INT


and most importantly - THE WIN

ALL YOU BITCHES TAKE MY SHOTS!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Ben Roethlisberger - 16/27 257yds 3TD 1 INT


and most importantly - THE WIN

ALL YOU BITCHES TAKE MY SHOTS!

Most most importantly: no sex allegations yet.

[Kris P Lettus]

Damn..

Good game..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Ben Roethlisberger - 16/27 257yds 3TD 1 INT


and most importantly - THE WIN

ALL YOU BITCHES TAKE MY SHOTS!

Cleveland Browns...

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Oh he beat the Browns, must be the best QB in football.

Possibly the worst post in TPWW history. Congrats, parkmania.

[Kris P Lettus]

For reals..

He is a convicted rapist who will get some of his own rape medicine oct 31...

[McLegend]

That's great.

[Joey Slugs]

Interesting NFL stat: The Colts have 444 wins in their team history. 222 in Baltimore (30 years) and 222 in Indianapolis (26 years).

[RoXer]

Would be great if they played Baltimore next week

[weather vane]

phinssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[Supreme Olajuwon]

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=media%2Fapphoto%2F12c77466-4091-4159-9d9c-b7f926ec1e03.jpg&w=512&h=341

[FearedSanctity]

http://imgnook.com/LPSo.gif

http://oi51.tinypic.com/1zgu8ux.jpg

Why couldn't you do shit BEFORE Denver traded you?

[FearedSanctity]

http://i56.tinypic.com/wqou9t.gif

[El Fangel]

Who had that one handed catch that I keep seeing on Sportscenter.

[parkmania]

Oh he beat the Browns, must be the best QB in football.

Possibly the worst post in TPWW history. Congrats, parkmania.

Well the way you bitches have been talking about him, he'd have been lucky to beat the Lions, so my comment stands - SUCK IT!

He is a convicted rapist who will get some of his own rape medicine oct 31...

So, you're saying that next week's game at Miami is an auto-win. Thanks, that's the most respect anyone has given Ben's abilities on this forum in over 9 months.

[Innovator]

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2010/10/340x_x2_30df3da.jpg (http://deadspin.com/5666558/meanwhile-the-devil-told-big-ben-to-keep-making-passes)

[Innovator]

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2010/10/500x_favreshirt.jpg (http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2010/10/favreshirt.jpg)

[Joey Slugs]

Junior Seau, the retired NFL superstar, drove his SUV off a cliff in Carlsbad, CA. early Monday and survived – TMZ

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extra_points/2010/10/former_patriot_2.html?camp=misc:on:share:blog

[McLegend]

I guess surviving death is easier then winning a Super Bowl.

[Joey Slugs]

I guess surviving death is easier then winning a Super Bowl.

I don't know any other details. Just came across MSNBC's breaking news page on Facebook

[El Fangel]

Someone answer my fucking question.

[Skippord]

Pierre Garcon probably

[Joey Slugs]

Someone answer my fucking question.

How hard is it to google something? Seriously?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/09000d5d81b6a008/WK-6-Can-t-Miss-Play-Catch-of-the-year

[SammyG]

lol yeah, seriously.

Bradford better win ROY

[IC Champion]

Shut up Sammy. You only come in here to talk about the Rams when they win, if they tank the rest of the season you'll be no where to be seen. It's not like you know anymore than Fangel.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Well the way you bitches have been talking about him, he'd have been lucky to beat the Lions, so my comment stands - SUCK IT!



What? All people said is he's not a top 5 QB, and then you turned into a whiny bitch about it. All this performance did was prove that you overreacted to people's comments.

[Gonzo]

How hard is it to google something? Seriously?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/09000d5d81b6a008/WK-6-Can-t-Miss-Play-Catch-of-the-year

Jesus, sick catch.

[parkmania]

What? All people said is he's not a top 5 QB, and then you turned into a whiny bitch about it. All this performance did was prove that you overreacted to people's comments.

I'm just sick of people saying that because of what he was never charged with doing, he's a worse quarterback than before.

Like I said earlier, before the Georgia incident, people DID put Ben in the Top 5. Suddenly noone would touch him and the whole suspension issue is complete and utter BS. Favre is gonna get nothing for "embarrassing the league" - you explain to me how that's fair.

[Gonzo]

I personally don't think he is a worse quarterback than before he was in trouble, but you don't get into situations like that, twice, by accident.

I would probably take him top five. I would take P. Manning, Brady, and Brees before him though. I dunno, I think he is a pretty good quarterback. Guy just wins games.

[Hanso Amore]

Hey, Trent, Looking good in J ville

[Hanso Amore]

MJD is a beast though

[McLegend]

Football as we know it... As changed.

[SammyG]

Are you seriously questioning my NFL knowledge, IC? That is an idiotic statement to make. I watch every game every week basically, with Sunday ticket. Don't even. I'd think my NFL knowledge is very, very high. I just talk about the Rams mostly cuz it's amazing to see them winning more games

[El Fangel]

Ok, can someone confirm my beliefs in what I think is going on here please, it would be much appreciated.

What I have gathered is

- Coin flip determines kickoff, team who catchs it runs as far as possible towards the goal line (touchdown zone) when the player holding the ball is tackled play begins there.

- Players line up on the line of scrimmage and must be ten yards from each other, with 5 people on the line, 5 back and the QB

- The snapper snaps the ball back to a player behind (doesnt have to be QB, can be a hand off I think its called)

- Have to gain 10 yards within 4 downs to gain a new 1st down

- Can run the ball or pass the ball for the ten yards

- 11 players to a side

- Touchdown is 6 points, a tackle of player in touchdown zone is 2 points (safety) and after a touchdown they get a chance to

1) Kick a field goal (from how far out?) for 1 point
2) Make another TD (from 10 yards out I think) for 2 points? or is it 3?

If the positions could be defined as well, I would love that :)

[El Fangel]

Also include anything else you think I should know.

Oh and interceptions and how they work and how interceptions can lead to touchdowns against the offense.

Terms as well would be awesome.

[RP]

Jack Del Rio is hands down the worst coach in the NFL. He makes Wade Phillips and Norv Turner look like Vince Lombardi and Tom Landy

[RP]

I lost my fantasy game by 4 points cause Del Dumbo doesnt know he has an All Pro rb. I mean i'm sorry, but 3 and 4th down at the one yard line and you pass the ball with your second string QB instead of handing it off to MJD???? This guy is autistic for sure.

[Requiem]

I :heart: Pierre Garcon

Mad inconsistent, but he is a game changer. Makes some SICK plays when he isn't dropping passes.

[IC Champion]

Are you seriously questioning my NFL knowledge, IC? That is an idiotic statement to make. I watch every game every week basically, with Sunday ticket. Don't even. I'd think my NFL knowledge is very, very high. I just talk about the Rams mostly cuz it's amazing to see them winning more games

Maybe I have misjudged you Samual, that was actually a thought out and reasonable post, you responded and didn't spazz out. If you did that more often you might actually not be a total douchebag.

[IC Champion]

And you attacked the statement, not the person, I think we are seeing SammyG progress ladies and gents.

[Ermaximus]

Good thing I played the Titans DST last night. :shifty:

[RoXer]

If SammyG knows so much about football maybe he should help Fallen Angel understand it

[IC Champion]

SammyG probably couldn't tell you what a cover 2 is.

[SammyG]

It is the defense I go in on Madden and get fucking burned all the time somehow cuz the Rams defense is terrible on that game. Bigger Cover 3 fan on that game.

But a cover 2 was really established by Tampa like 10 years ago or so wasn't it? I'm sure it was used before that too, but didn't Tampa have that Tampa 2 cover that they used a lot?

[IC Champion]

Cover 2 is a shell defense consisting of two safeties back deep each responsible for a half of the field.

Tampa 2 is zone defense, with the safties dropping back, like cover 2, but with the MLB droppin back and covering the middle of the field, with the rest of the coverage dropping back 8-10 yards from scrimmage.

[SammyG]

Ok, can someone confirm my beliefs in what I think is going on here please, it would be much appreciated.

What I have gathered is

- Coin flip determines kickoff, team who catchs it runs as far as possible towards the goal line (touchdown zone) when the player holding the ball is tackled play begins there.

- Players line up on the line of scrimmage and must be ten yards from each other, with 5 people on the line, 5 back and the QB

- The snapper snaps the ball back to a player behind (doesnt have to be QB, can be a hand off I think its called)

- Have to gain 10 yards within 4 downs to gain a new 1st down

- Can run the ball or pass the ball for the ten yards

- 11 players to a side

- Touchdown is 6 points, a tackle of player in touchdown zone is 2 points (safety) and after a touchdown they get a chance to

1) Kick a field goal (from how far out?) for 1 point
2) Make another TD (from 10 yards out I think) for 2 points? or is it 3?

If the positions could be defined as well, I would love that :)


1. Touchdown zone= Endzone. It's where you gotta go to get 6 points. After that you get a chance to kick an 18 yard field goal which is an extra point, you get 1 point for that. For a 2 point conversion, you get the ball at the two yard line and try to score another touchdown basically, you get 2 points if you get that.

2. Line of scrimmage is where the play starts, yes. There needs to be a minimum of 5 men on the line, yes, but you can also include a Tight End or two on the sides too. 5 men in the back does not happen, no. Teams can either have 1,2,3,4,5 receivers, depend on the formation they go in. Teams with potent passing attacks, like GB for example, often go into 5 spread formations (five receivers). Other teams that run, can have 5 men on the line, the QB, a fullback, and a running back lined up in a I formation, with 3 receivers. Remember, 11 on offense, 11 on defense. There is no rule that tells you how many men you should have in the backfield, but you usually won't see more than 3 (shot gun formation with dual running backs in there)

QB-Quarterback (guy the ball is snapped to )
HB/RB- Running Back (guy that gets handoffs from the QB)
WR- Wide Receiver (guys that catch the ball thrown to them from QB, although running backs get thrown to as well.)
TE- Tight End, they receive passes as well as get placed on the offensive line to block for the quarterback/running back to create time for the quarterback and create holes for the running backs to run through.

LG, LT, C, RG,RT= Left Guard, Left Tackle, Center (snaps the ball), Right Guard, Right tackle. All of these guys are on the offensive line and help protect the quarterback, or make holes for the running back.

Defensive tackles, Defensive Ends are on the defensive line, and try to get to the quarterback, or tackle the running backs, basically stop the opposing team's progress.

Linebackers line up behind the defensive line and are there to back up the defensive line. They are usually the hardest hitters in the game. LAURINAITIS BABYYY.

Cornerbacks cover the wide receivers and try to prevent completions from occuring, or they try to intercept the pass, which means they catch the ball from the quarterback and run the other way.

Safeties play deep in the defensive backfield usually, and are safety valves for any deep passes the quarterback might throw. They are there to help the cornerbacks with coverage, or they can blitz the quarterback. I dunno, it's tough to explain everything in football, I just gave you a basic rundown I believe.

[El Fangel]

Please excuse the roughness of the drawing but here is what I have gathered from your explanation and visualized.

Point out where I am wrong as I am almost certain I have the WR in the wrong spot.


http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1093/footballv.jpg

[Big Fat Mike]

Please excuse the roughness of the drawing but here is what I have gathered from your explanation and visualized.

Point out where I am wrong as I am almost certain I have the WR in the wrong spot.


http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1093/footballv.jpg

The typical pro defensive set is a 4-3, or 3-4, with two safeties being on both the strong and weak sides of the offense. Rarely will you see five down defensive linemen unless in a short yardage or goal-line situation.

Or the '85 Bears.

[Innovator]

6-2

[SammyG]

The receivers are not lined up close to the line, usually, they are on the far ends of the field.

[SammyG]

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extra_points/patriots_spread_offense.jpg

[El Fangel]

I labeled what I think eahc person is.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4024/football2v.jpg

[CSL]

lol probably couldn't have picked a worse pic for a formation, empty backfield (no RB/FB's)

[CSL]

http://www.nfl.com/teams/indianapoliscolts/depthchart?team=IND

[SammyG]

Yeah, sorry, picked an empty backfield lol

[Nervous Ferret]

love Pat Angerer

[Droford]

Anyone else wanna take me up on my bet that Ray Lewis is the first player suspended under this new "Zero Tolerance" policy for hits?

[McLegend]

The Cover 2 really?

[IC Champion]

What about cover 2?

[Gonzo]

There needs to be a minimum of 5 men on the line, yes, but you can also include a Tight End or two on the sides too.

There needs to be 7 men on the line of scrimmage. The offensive tackles have to be "covered", either by a tight end or wide receiver.

What that means, Fallen Angel, is that you have your five offensive lineman. You have the center (the player who snaps the ball to the quarterback), two guards, one to each side of the center, and two offensive tackles, one to each side of the center. That is 5 men that will always be on the line of scrimmage. However, the two tackles, the outermost offensive line players, must be "covered" by another player to their outside shoulder. This could be a tight end or wide receiver. These players will line up at the line of scrimmage, on the line, to "cover" the tackle. Basically, the offensive tackle cannot be the farthest player to the outside in an offensive formation. There must be a tight end or wide receiver on each side that lines up on the line of scrimmage.

There can't be more than 7 players on the line either. For example, if two wide receivers line up on the right side of a formation, one of those players must be on the line of scrimmage, and the other will generally line up exactly 1 yard behind the line of scrimmage.

[McLegend]

Kind of seems like you are trying to hard again to attack, SammyG.

[Gonzo]

I labeled what I think eahc person is.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4024/football2v.jpg

To further illustrate my point in my previous post, look at this picture. You have five offensive lineman. They are on the line of scrimmage. It may appear that the guards and tackles are slightly back from center, but that is allowed because they are going to be pass protecting.

On the left side of the formation, on the bottom of the picture, note how the middle receiver, of the three, is lined up on the 21 yard line, where as the other two receivers to that side are lined up on the 20 yard line. On the right side of the formation, the top side of the photo, the far most outside receiver is lined up on the 21 yard line, while the receiver in the "slot" is lined up on the 20 yard line.

If you look at this, you can see 7 men on the line of scrimmage. 5 offensive lineman, and the two receivers, one to each side of the formation.

I know this seems complicated, but it really isn't.

[Gonzo]

Also, there are tons of variations for formations. You don't have to have a certain number of tight ends, wide receivers, or running backs on the field.

[McLegend]

Great game on Espn2.

[RP]

Indianapolis must be Drunk Kicker U

[RoXer]

Happy Tuesday Party People

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Love how much of a whiny bitch James Harrison is being about these illegal hit punishments. Classic Steelers football.

[Emperor Smeat]

How many times has he threaten to retire or boycott something by now, 3-4 times?

Worst was him boycotting the meeting with the President when the Steelers won the title just because Obama planned to have the Cardinals be there had the Cards won the Superbowl. Somehow he felt disrespected that there was plans for a Cardinals meeting even though Presidents always plan for 2 teams and then invite the winners.

[IC Champion]

Mr. Harrison doesn't seem particularly smart.

[parkmania]

Mr. Harrison doesn't seem particularly smart.

Agreed. Great football player, but a mental midget.

[RP]

If the Colts beat the Texans as beat up as they are now, then the Texans have no shot in hell of ever winning the AFC South.

The Colts will be without Dallas Clark, Austin Collie and possibly without Joe Addai.


BTW i'll be at this game. Tailgaiting at around 4 or 5 pm. Drunk as shit when i go in. Balls out as the game is played. GO COLTS!

[RP]

Peyton Manning might seal up another MVP award if he destroys the Texans on MNF without Clark, Collie and Addai. Am i wrong?

[The Pope]

I labeled what I think eahc person is.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4024/football2v.jpg

5WR, no RB, no TE

[RP]

4 WR's, RB in motion out to the far left ( #33). No TE. It's classic Patriots football. They motion there RB out as a 5th receiver and spread the field.


too easy.

[RP]

lol probably couldn't have picked a worse pic for a formation, empty backfield (no RB/FB's)

Not really. I mean he labeled them wrong, but it's obviously a motion of a RB coming out of the backfield and moving to far left as a receiver.

[RP]

Patriots do that alot when there is 1 safety in coverage. If you show them a single safety look, Brady audibles the RB out to a WR spot and goes empty backfield.

[Innovator]

Now you get a LB matched up against Welker, which is just stupid to begin with.

[The Pope]

So you're saying it's still 5 WR's?

[The Pope]

Now you get a LB matched up against Welker, which is just stupid to begin with.

:lol: I just noticed there's like 10 LB's labeled

[Innovator]

Most of the time the motion is to pick up if they are in man or zone coverage.

[Ermaximus]

Ouch. Dallas Clark is out for the season now.

[FearedSanctity]

Yet another hit to my damn fantasy team. Who'd be getting Clark's catches RP?

[Ermaximus]

Yet another hit to my damn fantasy team. Who'd be getting Clark's catches RP?

My guess is Collie and Garcon will get a lot more catches now. Who is the Colts backup TE anyway?

[Skippord]

Jacob Tamme

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Fucking hate it when the Giants don't play on Sunday. It'll be like that 2 weeks in a row</font> :(

[Team Sheep]

Let's go Steelers and Chargers.

[Kris P Lettus]

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2009/10/16/sports/photos_stories/Cropped/darren_sharper--300x300.jpg

He's back.....

[Kris P Lettus]

Also, Chris Ivory is a f'n beast..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Wonder how many knee injuries we'll see this week with everyone going down low to tackle.

[McLegend]

I wonder if we will see high fantasy numbers this week.

[RP]

Brees throws his 7th pick of the season.

[Droford]

So fn glad I took the Browns +19.5 vs the Saints

[Kris P Lettus]

Missing both our RB's and 3 CB's and Sharper is limited..

Our special teams coach should be fired..

[RP]

Drew Brees is horrible

[Droford]

I dont know if I can take much more of this Ravens game.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I've seen 4 year olds with ADD who are more disciplined than the Cincinnati Bengals.

Marvin's gotta go. Bratkowski should've been gone 3 years ago. It's not one or two bad eggs messing up the chemistry. It's the entire freaking team that can't get organized. How hard is this?

[Kris P Lettus]

Drew Brees is horrible

So a "horrible" QB beat the favored Colts in the Super Bowl??

[Droford]

HAHA Ed Reed int, next play is a flea flicker to Boldin for 44 yards td

Ravens now up! yay

[DaveWadding]

So a "horrible" QB beat the favored Colts in the Super Bowl??

Yeah, it's kinda like how a 25 year old undrafted rookie QB beat the defending champs 2 weeks ago. ;)

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Is the RP/Krispy feud starting up again? Gonna have to subsribe to this thread now.

[Kris P Lettus]

I'm going to eat a bullet..

One good thing, I am going to the Saits/Steelers game next week, so the tix should be cheaper..

[RoXer]

I'm going to eat a bullet..

ahahahaha

[Kris P Lettus]

Just like in the Cards game, nothing is falling our way..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

PACMANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[Kris P Lettus]

These officials are dookie..

[RP]

So a "horrible" QB beat the favored Colts in the Super Bowl??

someones feathers are ruffled .

[RP]

These officials are dookie..

your team is dookie

[RP]

ROFL THE BIGGEST ROBBERY EVER JUST HAPPEND IN MIAMI

[RP]

oh lookie. Another Brees pick 6.

[Droford]

I coulda had the Browns -19.5 and theyd still cover..amazing

[D Mac]

WOOOOOOO Chiefs! Good win guys. Still first place.

[Kris P Lettus]

your team is dookie

Are you really trying to say that a bad team beat your team in the Super Bowl??

Madden curse..

[McLegend]

This weekend sucked.

[Kris P Lettus]

word

[D Mac]

Nah it ruled.

[IC Champion]

The NFC is very mediocre this year.

[Skippord]

and the Broncos are just embarrassing themselves

[D Mac]

AFC West Champions: Kansas City Chiefs

Now that's got a great ring to it.

[D Mac]

SammyG: lol Rams

[Hanso Amore]

God. Fucking Bills come out and play a good game against the Ravens and lose it in OT.

At least it was fun to watch.

[D Mac]

And they will still be winless after next week. :wave:

[IC Champion]

LOL San Diego

[Droford]

The Ravens have a bye and then the Panthers in 2 weeks.

Nice timing for Matt Moore to heat up. Bet he throws for 300 yards too.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: Chargers turnovers.

WR catches the ball but never gets touched so he places ball on the ground and immediately gets swarmed by Pats players for the ball. Chargers end up loosing the ball.

[OssMan]

Amazing games so far. Like 15 fumbles in Redskins vs Bears. Fucking retarded game.

[DaveWadding]

Goddamn I love the Niners right now.

[RP]

Tebow Time IMO

[Skippord]

it might just be time to fly to England

[ClockShot]

Just got home.

Fire McDevil.

[Skippord]

this game would be a fun drinking game

everytime a Bronco embarrasses themselves you take a drink

[Skippord]

I was kind of jealous my brother is at this game

[RP]

TEBOW TIME GOD DAMNIT!

[Nark Order]

Jesus Christ, Skippord. I can't even watch this game.

[Nark Order]

Just saw the Redskins game on Sportscenter but that was a pretty clutch win.

[El Fangel]

I am going to look like an idiot here.

But linebackers are only used on defense right?

[RoXer]

Yeah

[RP]

Thanks for playing the 2010 NFL Season Denver Broncos

[Skippord]

this game is bumming me out

[Nervous Ferret]

Traded Darren McFadden in my fantasy league earlier in the year bc this guy wouldn't leave me the fuck alone. Seriously was texting me 55774372728 a day with awful trade offers and he wouldn't stfu. Finally took driver and some other clown for him even though I really did not want to do it. Hate myself so much now. H8 that guy even more

[Skippord]

TE-BOW TE-BOW TE-BOW