Football Talk 2004/2005 (Soccer)

[Dazz]

I've seen Campbell take players on against Chelesea before, not sure if he does against other teams, his run against Portsmouth shows what he can do, good thinking too. And like you say, King isn't all he is said to be, he can just had the ball, and Terry hardly had the greatest of tournaments, so I wouldn't blame it on Campbell, and he had a good World Cup '98 IMO.

ECG, can you honestly tell me you watch Chelsea matches this season? Maybe you could remind me when Carvalho has skinned anyone? I suppose maybe he may want to get more confident in the English game before trying to take players on, because at the moment I am sure he hasn't. Gallas is our only defender that take players on at the back.

Terry and Carvalho both organisation and class to the team, I really do think that you haven't watched any of our matches on T.V, and not highlights as that obviously only rarely shows our defence :D, because the way they both deal with an attack is superb, Terry is always calm at the back and he is never out of position, always gets the job done, never looks like a mug and once Terry gets the recognition he deserves and becomes the man for England, everyone will be sucking his penis.

I have said United will win hte league since June now, and I still believe it, Josè is so far up his own arse that just because he seems confident doesn't mean we all should be. Seriously, look at our fixtures, Anfield on New Years day, Arsenal lost their and we rarely do well their, United at OT in April, Arsenal at home in April, Southampton away that month and Harry will have them sorted by then, Bolton Away, thats four hard ties in April, and going to St James' Park on the last day of the season isn't the easiest fixture either, the league is far from won. Plus if we beat Barca in the Champions League we will have even more fucking matches in April.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I don't mean simply taking men on once in a while, I mean a great defender has to be a great footballer also. I don't think Campbell or Terry are great footballers, and I think that certainly was evident when they played together at Euro 2004 and were unable to push out from the back and play it out from there. Either of them beside Rio Ferdinand would be excellent, but I think at the top level, they need someone of Rio's class there.

Good Premiership players, like Frank Lampard. Against the top teams, I think they're found wanting.

I watched Norwich vs. Chelsea last Saturday, by the way, on Irish TV.

[Dazz]

Nice one, you would have watched that match, one of the only that Carvalho hasn't played in, but he really doesn't do more then his basic defending duties.

Campbell and Terry both had great seasons for their club but not too impressive ones for their countries, I'd blame Eriksson for being a moron too though, not just Terry and Campbell, seriously, you just remember them for not playing too well in a few games, they are great players. I really think they would be great if they played along side each other again.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Dazz, I agree with you about Terry being a class defender cos I really rate him, I wouldn't agree he's better than Rio Ferdinand but still.

I disagree with where you say he and Campbell are a good combination together. I agree with ECG that they don't work well together. I said this during Euro 2004 if Ferdinand was available id play him and Terry because whilst Campbell and Terry are both good defenders, neither are particularly composed on the ball like Rio is.

I also don't think Campbell is that great. Im not saying he's bad or anything but out of the 3, id rather have Terry and Rio. ECG pretty much hit it on the head when he said Campbell was big black and good at heading :$</font>

[Dazz]

But then again, you are convinced that De Zeuuw isn't just a big fat slow lump.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Joleon Lescott is better than all of them :love:

[Dazz]

Hey remember when we scored ten goals against you in a season? Where was he to stop any of them?

[packt up]

So yeah Newcastle are shit then.

Just been to Myanmar for 2 weeks and you can watch way more Premiership games out there. Up to 4 on Sunday and 3 on Saturday and one on Monday its crazy. Had the displeasure of watching Newcastle Portsmouth and the game against Liverpool. Also watched the Arsenal Chelsea game though so its all good.

We'l be lucky to finish top half at this rate and holy shit at the Champions League draw only saw it after reading this thread!

[Rob Ban Fan]

Hey remember when we scored ten goals against you in a season? Where was he to stop any of them?

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Out recovering from the injury that kept him out for the entire season? :$</font>

[toxic rooster]

Just been to Myanmar for 2 weeks and you can watch way more Premiership games out there. Up to 4 on Sunday and 3 on Saturday and one on Monday its crazy.
Yeah, just on that point, how many games do you get to see in England?

Premiership coverage here is pretty awesome (if you have cable :y::D), like at least 3 or 4 live games a week, usually 3 live on saturday night and whatever other games during the week are usually live as well.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Theres one on Monday Night football, usually a couple on Super Sunday and then maybe one on a saturday. Then theres Prem Plus which shows 1 or 2 per weekend.

Then theres usually a couple of championship matches and 2 matches from La Liga :love:</font>

[toxic rooster]

one on a saturday?

that's badlike

[packt up]

Yeah like RBF said the coverage here is pretty good these days but in Asia it was practically every game live.

[Rob]

Personally I think there is too much football on TV these days. Less is more.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Hey remember when we scored ten goals against you in a season? Where was he to stop any of them?

Yeah as RBF said he was recovering from double knee surgery. Somehow he's still the man though :love: Hence we had to buy someone to replace him and unfortunately Dave Jones' mental phase had kicked in by then as he bought Jody Craddock :'(

[Mr. Monday Morning]

There's normally 2 PPV games on Saturday, a PPV and free game on Sunday, and then the Monday night football. There's normally at least 2-3 La Liga games per weekend as well (normally but not always featuring Barca and/or Real Madrid), and there's Nationwide as well, although that's normally one game per Friday night and anything else is a bonus.

[Wengerland]

fucksake, lost at home to Rotherham. :|

[packt up]

GRRRRr thought the days of mid table mediocrity had left newcastle for good.

[Rain Man]

Aye?

[Team Sheep]

I went to the Cardiff/Wolves game today as a neutral because I couldn't stand being stuck in this house much longer. I must say if I didn't know I would have said it were a league 2 game. The best bit was getting my chips at half time.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

But you got to see Glenn Hoddle in person :'(

[Team Sheep]

Not really the sun was in my eyes :mad: I had to hold my programme on my forehead through it all.

[yianni]

Fuck Giggs was on fire against Bolton yesterday.

LOL at Campo's 'shot' :lol:

[Rob]

Can someone confirm to me that Martin Tyler is either out of a job or is on his way out of Sky? I know Ian Darke has been told he will be announcing on live Premiership matches again.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Can someone confirm to me that Martin Tyler is either out of a job or is on his way out of Sky? I know Ian Darke has been told he will be announcing on live Premiership matches again.

He did WBA v Liverpool last night... :-\

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">what?? Nooooo, Martin Tyler is the man :'(

on the plus side though, Ian Darke is a Pompey fan.

Playing Chelsea tomorrow, Dazz said he was going so ill laugh if it rains :cool:...actually I wont since the rain blows under the roof and I get wet when it rains :mad:</font>

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Tyler better not be out of a job :rant:

[Ogen]

Villa United coming up we're gonna get hammered unfortunately we haven't a squad and injuries are piling up couple that with Angel, Barry etc.s terrible form and we're fecked

[toxic rooster]

You'll pull something out of your arses, everyone aims up against ManYoo

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">played Chelsea blah blah blah dominated first half they won.

Anyway, Dazz was on the pitch at half time doing the halftime game "total humilation". I thought it was him but i wasn't sure. He lost but was given £25 anyway. :D Berger spoke to him apparently :(</font>

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Villa United coming up we're gonna get hammered unfortunately we haven't a squad and injuries are piling up couple that with Angel, Barry etc.s terrible form and we're fecked
Angel was brilliant on Sunday. I haven't seen much of him otherwise, but he was one of the best players on the pitch against Chelsea.

[Rob]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">played Chelsea blah blah blah dominated first half they won.

Anyway, Dazz was on the pitch at half time doing the halftime game "total humilation". I thought it was him but i wasn't sure. He lost but was given £25 anyway. :D Berger spoke to him apparently :(</font>

If he fell on his boat, it was Dazz.

[Wengerland]

Good riddance to 2004.

[Ogen]

Angel was brilliant on Sunday. I haven't seen much of him otherwise, but he was one of the best players on the pitch against Chelsea.
Hes been very poor when compared to last season I'm hoping its down to the fact he came back from injury and hasn't been able to have a rest since because of Vassell's injury.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">going back to the John Terry/Rio Ferdinand debate. Whilst i still agree that Rio is teh better player, I have to say that after today's performance, John Terry is the best central defender ive seen at Fratton Park.

Thats not saying much since its only one match but still he was sheer class today.

Terry and Rio for England.</font>

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Angel was crap tonight.

[Dazz]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">

Anyway, Dazz was on the pitch at half time doing the halftime game "total humilation". I thought it was him but i wasn't sure. He lost but was given £25 anyway. :D Berger spoke to him apparently :(</font>

Yeah I should have scored first time but the bloke directing me sucked, I didn't even recognise Berger when I was leaving the pitch :$ He goes 'Unlucky Mate' and I said Cheers, then asked the bloke who was helping out who that was and he was like "thats Patrick Berger, he's our best player" I felt stupid, but still, £25 :cool:. The Chelsea fans chanted "What a load of rubbish" as I was going back to my seat :$.

Still, good work Chelsea.

[packt up]

Dazz shot down Patrik Berger :love:

[Dazz]

:cool: He looked different, I really had no idea who it was, his hair was longer and he speaks like a proper Englishman, I didn't even think he was foreign, I thought he was prolly a groundsman, I only said Cheers because I am a nice guy.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">to be fair, i didnt recognise Berger when I first saw him, he was wrapped up warm.

But yes, you should've scored the first one, you were shit. Go home Mantle.</font>

[Dazz]

I am home, and the guy directing me didn't tell me how much time I had, he should have lined me up for the shot better, on the plus side I kicked the Portsmouth fan the second time. We even cheated too, the bloke said you cant touch the person to help him, only verbally tell him, but the guy kept pushing me and turning me, and trying to line me up, and it still didn't work.

[Nervous Ferret]

Go shit a brick about it.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">yeah, i saw you kick the Pompey fan you dirty twat. Thats why you lost- karma. If i was sure it was you id probably have paid more attention.

Did you actually know the guy? :$ cos it would've been pretty weird if he was some guy you'd just met touching you up while you were blindfolded.</font>

[packt up]

Ha Dazz shot down Patrik Berger and got sexually assaulted all in the same day.

GOOD TIMES.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Davis (for Villa) is the worst young player I've seen in aaages. Absolute shite.

Also describe this halftime thing for those of us who haven't seen it :$

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">yeah, my bad :$

they take 2 Chelsea fans and 2 Pompey fans and they blind fold one of each then spin them around then their partner had to guide them round a set of cones then they have to score from the penalty spot. They're not allowed to touch them, only talk/shout at them. They usually end up kicking eachother, kicking the air or putting the ball a mile wide. Its pretty funny, better than nothing.</font>

[Ogen]

Davis (for Villa) is the worst young player I've seen in aaages. Absolute shite.

Also describe this halftime thing for those of us who haven't seen it :$
http://tpww.net/forums/images/smilies/wtf.gif Hes been great ever game hes played apart form Chelsea and United and you can't expect him to set the world allight against teams like that at his age. His distribution is great.

[The Mackem]

Yeah we're second, didn't make it to the Leeds game. It's not my fault we lost to them.

[Dazz]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">yeah, i saw you kick the Pompey fan you dirty twat. Thats why you lost- karma. If i was sure it was you id probably have paid more attention.

Did you actually know the guy? :$ cos it would've been pretty weird if he was some guy you'd just met touching you up while you were blindfolded.</font>

Never met him before, he just really wanted to do the challenge, didn't even have a Chelsea shirt on :mad:. He wasn't really touching me up, and as far as we knew only the team who scored get £25 so it was worth it at the time :cool:.

[toxic rooster]

1-0 to the Ar-se-nal

[packt up]

Ashley Cole certain penalty.

Otherwise no complaints felt slightly hard done by but meh.

[toxic rooster]

Yeah, we got lucky that the ref and linesmen were both blind

[Rob]

The ref said he saw it though. What a fucking moron. He should be suspended for that. If you don't see something then fine but to see a blatant penalty and not give it is just wrong.

[The Mask]

Can someone confirm to me that Martin Tyler is either out of a job or is on his way out of Sky? I know Ian Darke has been told he will be announcing on live Premiership matches again.

i think he's been demoted (ie. darke is the main commentater now) rather than fired.

[toxic rooster]

The ref said he saw it though.
:| WHAT.

Well, it was Steve Bennett, you wouldn't put something like that past him. But I think that clinches the "tosser ref of the year award".

[The Mackem]

Well, Newcastle had a nice run in the Premiership :shifty:

[packt up]

FUCK YOU MACKEM :(

[packt up]

The ref said he saw it though. What a fucking moron. He should be suspended for that. If you don't see something then fine but to see a blatant penalty and not give it is just wrong.

EH...thats just bewildering. :wtf:

[The Mackem]

I see Newcastle are interested in Bababababababababababayaro

[Rob Ban Fan]

i think he's been demoted (ie. darke is the main commentater now) rather than fired.

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">what, why?

anyone got a link to something on Sky or anything?</font>

[Dazz]

Babyaro has gone.

How was Cole's handball a penalty, Bellamy clearly pushed him, I'd be pissed off if Wayney Bridge or any other of our players got a penalty given against us for that.

[Rob]

It was a hand ball because he lifted his arms above his head and made contact with the ball.

[toxic rooster]

Babyaro has gone.

How was Cole's handball a penalty, Bellamy clearly pushed him, I'd be pissed off if Wayney Bridge or any other of our players got a penalty given against us for that.
Then why wasn't Cole given a free kick?

[toxic rooster]

Oh, and boo hoo Sir Alex

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yeah Babayaro for the Toon...I just read they want Pandiani as well :eek:

[Skeletor2]

Yeah Babayaro for the Toon...I just read they want Pandiani as well :eek:

And Boumsong's agent has said that he expects a deal to be wrapped up soon, just the matter of Boumsong and Rangers negotiating the cut of the transfer fee that he gets, they want it reduced to 5% and he wants 10%. The clause in his contract is actually 15% so I think they'd be better off just letting it be.

Things are certainly looking up now :cool:

[packt up]

Babyaro has gone.

How was Cole's handball a penalty, Bellamy clearly pushed him, I'd be pissed off if Wayney Bridge or any other of our players got a penalty given against us for that.

lol what Dazz.

I'd expect better from you. :nono:

[Rob]

United should have never admitted Rooney was wrong even though he was. We would have had time to appeal any charge which wouldn't have been anymore than a 3 game ban and in that time, Rooney could play and Saha would probably be back in time for when Rooney would actually be suspended.

That fat cunt of a Bolton manager has lost his mind saying Ben Haim didn't nothing wrong. Play acting is breaking rules dickhead. Stop moaning about Rooney and video replays.

He also mentioned how the FA have every right to make charges after reviewing games later. Yes they do. They also have the right to take away red cards for the likes of Lee Hendrie who got sent off for nothing the other week but they didn't. Do both or don't bother.

[packt up]

FA got both things right I reckon.

I heard United didn't appeal so that wasn't a chance of him missing the game with Arsenal but I dunno.

[The Mask]

nah, we did the right thing, he misses 3 smallish games, and comes back against the scouse. it's all good.

[Ogen]

Spain coach Luis Aragones has dug himself deeper into a hole over his remark about Thierry Henry by now referring to Jose Antonio Reyes as “a gypsy”.

Aragones faces disciplinary action from the Spanish FA, who have launched an investigation into the coach telling Reyes that he was better than “that black ****” Henry.

Now, in an interview with Madrid newspaper El Mundo, Aragones tried to defend himself but succeeded only in making things worse.

Aragones said: “Reyes is ethnically a gypsy, I have got a lot of gypsy and black friends, I consider myself a citizen of the world, I don’t care about their skin colour.

“All I did was to motivate the gypsy by telling him he was better than the black.

“I feel I have been the victim of a lynching. All I did was try to motivate Reyes comparing him with Henry and making him see that he was better.

“I didn’t use the term ‘black’ with any racist meaning.

“I’m not going to forget what’s happened. A section of the press in this country

Spain] has lynched me and I will not forget that my family have had a very bad time as a consequence of this.”

Arsenal are understood to be unhappy at Aragones’ latest remark but will not be taking any formal action. <hr>

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Aragones is fucking brilliant

[Rob Ban Fan]

All I did was to motivate the gypsy by telling him he was better than the black.

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">hahahahaha :$</font>

[Dazz]

lol what Dazz.

I'd expect better from you. :nono:

You're a Geordie, you would say that. The push was blatent and Bernard's handball was more of a penalty then Cole's.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Burnley away... I don't think I can bare putting Radio Leicester on this afternoon. :'(

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Also, I want to see a Leicester match. Dunno if I should waste 20 quid going to the QPR match though. :mad:

[toxic rooster]

Mike Riley :nono:

[toxic rooster]

Alonso broke his ankle in that Lampard tackle.

[Wengerland]

Mike Riley is a fucking dick, 1 clear penalty and one maybe debatable one but even that wasn't a free kick to Chelsea, which he gave :|

Chelsea won 1-0 btw, draw would've been fair and it's a shame Alonso had to go off as Liverpool were playing well and Nunez is nowhere near as good a player.

[packt up]

Riley is like seriously the worst ref. absolute shocker.

And seriously I laughed hard when I read that Aragones thing - he just doesn't give up does he.

gypsy lol

[Rob]

Also, I want to see a Leicester match. Dunno if I should waste 20 quid going to the QPR match though. :mad:

QPR are shite so you might get some points there.

Funny enough, the Sunday league team I play for are called QPR and wear blue and white hoops. We are top of our league though :D

[Ogen]

3 points for the first time in 7 games feels good to get a win again go on Nobby Solano

[Wengerland]

Abandoned after 20 minutes, saves us from another defeat i suppose.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

1-1 1-1 1-1 1-1 1-1

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Christ, Norwich are boring to watch. We were shit, the ref was shit, it was a pretty shitty match all in all.

The ref made us take our penalty 3 times and then our dickhead players celebrated with the Norwich fans (something ive constantly said annoys me) They sat behind the ball all game and consiquently were very boring to watch. We couldn't string 2 passes together. BLAH one of those days :(</font>

[The Mackem]

Got beat 3-2 away at Preston, after being 3-0 down.

Anybody can get promoted from this league.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Hope for us yet :lol:

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Gazza :(

[Rob]

Refs were absolutely horrible today.

[Dazz]

Nice one Chelsea, we played bad, we should have given away a penalty, we didn't have many chances, but we got three points on a ground where Arsenal got none, woooo.

[LK]

Well done United last night. Was a little worried with the other two winning and us playing Boro at the Riverside since they have some quality players but United came away with a comfortable 2-0 score.

[toxic rooster]

ManYoo have that habit of dropping points to Boro too

[LK]

Yeah I mean McClaren has a decent record against United as well but United were easily the better team. Another immense display from Giggs.

[toxic rooster]

Another immense display from Giggs.
So when's he negotiating the new contract?

[Wengerland]

Already been offered one, United offered him a 1 year extension but Giggs wants at least 2, so he rejected. If he keeps up his current form then i can see him getting the 2 years though.

[yianni]

Isn't that something to do with some thing United have where they only offer 1 year contracts to players over 30? Sorry if this has been mentioned somewhere else in this thread, it's just I heard about that the other day.

[Ogen]

He won't get two years chairman has come out and said that.

[Wengerland]

WHOOOOO finally got another home win, just about held on.

De Vries and Maybury on their way too :love:

[Rob]

Isn't that something to do with some thing United have where they only offer 1 year contracts to players over 30? Sorry if this has been mentioned somewhere else in this thread, it's just I heard about that the other day.

That's their story now but Peter Schmeichel, Roy Keane and Teddy Sheringham all signed longer than 1 year deals when they hit 30. I'd give him 2 year deal instantly. I'd give him 3 if he wanted it.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

He'd just go back to being crap.

Also, I think that policy is a recent thing.

[Ogen]

Savage has handed in a transfer request at Brum wants to move closer to his family and Villa missed out on Beattie which was to be expected what I'm fuming about is that O Leary has said theres no plan B it was him or noone we need a feckking striker this month. I'd love to see us tempt Spurs with 4 million for Keane think him and Angel would work well togethere.

[Wengerland]

I know it would be another gamble but i reckon Villa should take a look at Dean Ashton.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Southampton have signed Callum Davenport on loan til the end of the season.

Good signing :mad:</font>

[Ogen]

We really can't afford another gamble though we need a proven Premiership striker. I like ashton from what I'veseen he'll go far but we can't have yet another dodgy striker sign for us

[Ogen]

Redknapps teaming back up with daddy at the Saints aswell RBF

[Dazz]

Fucking Brom, if Horsefield could square a ball and pick out Earnshaw I would have won only 8 quid, but it's still better then winning nothing.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

If Shay Given wasn't such a chief, you mean.

Earnshaw looks like a real, proper dwarf.

[Dazz]

I am unaware of what a cheif is, round here it's a rude boy word for 'mate'.

Earnshaw's face reminds me of something but I'm not sure what it is, and Horsefield was never going to beat given from the angle he was at, I don't know what he was thinking, Earnshaw would have buried it, probably.

On other news, if Shay Given was such a 'chief' then how come we have scored nine passed him in the past two seasons at Stamford Bridge :cool:

[El Capitano Gatisto]

It would have been 20 without Given. Newcastle are shit. Given should be at Barcelona or somewhere great like that.

[Dazz]

He has gotta go in the transfer window or the end of the season, he is being robbed of Champions League football.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

He won't. Irish players are too loyal. Roy Keane said it, and he was spot on: a few players in the Irish team could have been playing club football for big teams if they'd shown more ambition and a will to win.

[Dazz]

I know this isn't exactly to do with loyalty, but Roy Keane isn't a man of his word, wasn't it Souness or someone he shook hands with on a deal when leaving Notts Forest, only to stitch him up and join ManYoo.

Robbie Keane moved from club to club, but I suppose that's a one off.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

It was Dalgish. Dalglish thought he had agreed to move to Blackburn, but Manchester United snuck in and nabbed him. Then again, when Keane had the chance to move on a Bosman to Real Madrid or Juventus, he decided to stay where he was.

Poor Robbie. He got fucked around more than anything else. I bet Wolves fans still love him. Inter signed him and sacked Lippi a couple of months later, then the Turk they brought in didn't fancy him.

He went to Leeds, and everyone knows the story there.

[Dazz]

Fair enough, I'll let Robbie Keane off. And since joining United I don't think anyone can question Roy Keane's loyalty, asking for £50,000 a week when those kind of wages were hugely unheard of in England is the closest thing he's done to being disloyal I suppose.

[packt up]

Newcastle are shit.

:cool:

[packt up]

PS Robbie Keane is the man and so is Shay Given.

[Rob Ban Fan]

Redknapps teaming back up with daddy at the Saints aswell RBF

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">shows how much of a liar he is then really. He spent 2 years being linked with Jamie while he was here and everytime he said "nah, i never want to manage Jamie again, i wont be signing Jamie, ive managed him before and it just causes problems, for sure."

Oh well, he can keep Marian Pahars company in the treatment room :D </font>

[Rob Ban Fan]

Would you ever try to sign your son Jamie?
HARRY: "No I'd never sign him. The game's hard enough as it is without having your own boy around. The only bloke who's ever made a success of that is Cloughie but no, it's not something I'd want." (Four Four Two mag, Sept. 2002)

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">there we go, someone posted the quote on 606. BOOOOO</font>

[toxic rooster]

Good god, we're peppering the City goal.

1-1 :'(

[toxic rooster]

Spurs were just robbed blind at Old Trafford.

Lob from Mendes from halfway, Carroll fumbled it, it went a good yard over the line and he hit it out.

0-0

[Cactus Sid]

Fu</>cking disgraceful decision, absolutely no excuse

[toxic rooster]

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/images/playerpics04_05/football/live/carroll_gaffe.jpg

[packt up]

LMAO at that pic seriously wtf. I missed the game good job too otherwise I woulda been like smashing my tv.

[toxic rooster]

http://www.bentex.co.uk/video/Carroll_blunder.wmv

[Mike the Metal Ed]

I'm not convinced the ball completely crossed the line... :-\

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/manutd04/carrollfunnygoal.jpg

[The Mask]

we got lucky there. good job the ref and linesman were still in the middle of the pitch i suppose.

[The Mask]

http://img21.exs.cx/img21/5952/post-1-1104886332.gif

[Ogen]

Cheating cunts ref are scared of old trafford fergies a crook etc.

[Ogen]

Cheating bastards, refs are scared of Old Trafford, Fergies a crook etc.

[Ogen]

So outraged I said it twice :shifty:

[toxic rooster]

OUTRAGEOUS

[yianni]

I'm not convinced the ball completely crossed the line... :-\

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/manutd04/carrollfunnygoal.jpg
LOL

[Astley316]

Not the first time this has happened though

I remember when bolton came up, and went down the second time, On our first game at the Reebok, Nathan Blake scored a clear goal against everton, but no one spotted we had scored, we ended up getting relgated that season on goal difference , if the goal had stood, Everton would have gone down,

[Cactus Sid]

What I can't understand is how the linesman made 2 mistakes in that incident.

The fact the ball went over the line by a yard in the first place is a disgrace that it was missed, but there is another important point here.

Carroll, no matter how you look at it, clearly pushed the ball back, and seemingly in the eyes of the linesman it was "away from the line". Yet, if you look, as he pushes it back, the ball lands more or less on the goal line, how the hell did the linesman not realise that if the ball was bouncing on the goal line AFTER the keeper had pushed it forward, that the ball had not crossed the line.

He had 2 chances to give a clear goal....and failed. What more can be said.

[Wengerland]

Yeah, shocking mess up.

To be fair to the linesman he's doing all he can to get there because he was up with play and can't really expect a 50 yard shot to come in, let alone get in a good position to see whether it had crossed the line by the time it drops. He shouldn't really just assume it crossed the line without getting a good view.

Another great goal from SWP though, i'd have him in the England side ahead of Beckham easily now.

[Ogen]

Edu's singed a pre-contract with Valencia

[Cactus Sid]

Edu's singed a pre-contract with Valencia

Where did you hear that?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Poor Robbie. He got fucked around more than anything else. I bet Wolves fans still love him.

He is a fucking legend :'( I still remember him tearing the Norwich defence apart on his debut age 17 :love: Plus the fact he never celebrates when he scores against his old teams, class act.

Also Dazz, Earnshaw is a fucking plank so there's no guarantee you would've won even if he'd got the ball. Plus he looks like an Alvin and the Chipmunks reject.

[Y2Ant]

Same old Man United. :o

[Cactus Sid]

Liverpool have signed Pellegrino from Valencia

Shame he's getting on, but I could think of far worse backups for Hyppia and Carragher.

[Cactus Sid]

Also, its a good signing considering he cost us nothing

[Wengerland]

Yeah, and he obviously knows Benitez well.

Shame about Xabi Alonso being out for 3 months now though :$

[Cactus Sid]

It could be a blessing if he moves for another top midfielder, someone like Aimar or Rosicky, who've been linked with us in the past, would more than make up for his absence.

[Rob]

Love how people are getting on Man U's case llike it's our fault the ref is a moron. We all know it crossed the line but it's hardly our fault if a goal isn't given. Ferguson admitted he was shocked it wasn't given. From what they just showed on Sky, the ref was at the half way line so he had no chance but the linesman was on the 18 yard line and it was debatable. It looks like Carroll blocked his view and a case of you can't give what you don't see. Still an awful decision though.

On another note, if we don't beat Arsenal and Chelsea, it's all over for us.

[Dazz]

Yeah like what Rob said, (I cannot believe I am agreeing with something he said here) The lino tried to get in as good position as he could, as the MOTD replays show, he wasn't concentrating too much on Carroll, more where he was running, as he obviously didn't expect Carroll to fuck up. It would have been worse (to United fans anyway) if the goal had stood but it wasn't a goal. I have no complaints over the decision.

[Cactus Sid]

I'd have no complaints if the ball wasn't so blatantly over the line

[El Capitano Gatisto]

On another note, if we don't beat Arsenal and Chelsea, it's all over for us.
Pretty much is already. But then Spurs could give Chelsea a game next week, and if United beat Liverpool at Anfield it all suddenly looks possible again.

I don't think United will beat Liverpool, though.

[Rob]

It's too early for me to conceed really. After seeing it pulled back before, you have to consider it can happen realistically. End of February, I'll probably be looking forward to the cup finals :D

[Ogen]

So Kanoute being linked with Barca surely I'm not the only one who thinks he'd be ell out of his depth playing for them hes good but hes not that good.

[Wengerland]

Yeah i'd rather not see Kanoute at Barça, but he'll just be backup for Eto'o so it's not too bad.

Norwich have had a bid for Dean Ashton accepted. Bastards, they were meant to be taking Scowcroft from us, and he can do better than them. He's scored more than their whole team put together this season in the league anyway.

[Ogen]

I was hoping we'd stick in a bid for Ashton he looks like he could be good but O Leary doesn't want anyone unproven after all of Villas terrible signings in the past. How much was the Ashton bid do you know?

[Wengerland]

I don't think it's been disclosed yet, but something around £2 million i imagine.

[The Mackem]

A lot of Sunderland fans have been singing his praises and wanting him to be signed for years but £2 million is way out of our capabilities methinks. I would be interested to see what would happen if Crewe kept him. They are within a shout of the play-offs.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yeah atm for him 6 months down the line Norwich could seem like a backward step.

[Ogen]

I like Crewe actually dunno why no reason at all really know feck all about them just like them. Hope he does well at Norwhich I'd like to see them stay up though

[Oxstar]

Hey Mackem the Eagles are gonna beat Sun-duh-land again, remember the play-offs?

[The Mackem]

No?

Play-offs, huh, what a stupid idea. :shifty:

[Rob Ban Fan]

<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">GOAL SCORER FOR THE EAGLES, NUMBER 8...ANDY JOHNSON!

ANDY...

JOOOOHNSON! DUNDUNDUNDUN AAAAANDY JOHNSON DUNDUNDUNDUN AAAAANDY JOHNSON

Im pretty sure "someone" else will step in and nick Ashton.</font>

[Rob]

Dean Ashton is off to Norwich.

[The Mask]

http://www.repubblica.it/speciale/2004/calcio/images/prima/salutorom.jpg

oops

[toxic rooster]

flares going off down the other end of the pitch :love:

[toxic rooster]

Sheffield's second goal should have been disallowed for two reasons, villa got robbed etc.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yeah but it's Villa so only Ogen will care :D

On that note, fucking HAVE IT Millwall, you bunch of cunts. About time we won a game. Now we'll probably make the final and get relegated :'(

[Cactus Sid]

CHELSEA 0 SCUNTHORPE 1 :D

[Cactus Sid]

Listening to the Scunny game, they are playing really well.

[Cactus Sid]

1-1 :(

Deflected goal, shame cos Scunny almost made it 2 about a minute before

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Leicester 1-1 Blackpool

COME ON CITY, GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER.

[The Mackem]

1-1 here now as well, just equalised

[Cactus Sid]

Well, Exeter might be the local rivals.....but hey, I do (or currently do) go to Uni there, so that is a fu</>cking fantastic result

[Wengerland]

damn, 2-2.

On the plus side Maybury did well when he came on.

Oldham beating Man City is the main shock win.

[Team Sheep]

Damn, Swansea so close to an upset :(

[Ogen]

Sheffield's second goal should have been disallowed for two reasons, villa got robbed etc.
We weren't in fairness we were muck allthough two of their goals were jammy that could have two others easily we were shite

[yianni]

For the Leicester guys

http://www.tribalfootball.com/january/austnews5090105.html (http://www.tribalfootball.com/january/austnews5090105.html)

Former South Melbourne Hellas defender too. :love:

[Wengerland]

Yeah i saw that the other day, good thing that we're getting younger people in.

Hearts fans don't seem as bothered as they were when we got Maybury, so is he any good? :$

[yianni]

We don't get much of the Scottish League here in Australia, but at South Melbourne he was one of our best players for the 2 years he was here. He played right back for us, and was an absolute rock. He should be in the Australian national team defence, apart from Craig Moore and Lucas Neil we have old farts holding the defence up (Vidmar, Muscat, Popovic). Anyway from what I've read he broke into Hearts' first team and has stayed there ever since so he must be doing well for them. Hopefully he does well for you blokes. :)

[yianni]

http://www.theage.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1071337099122_2003/12/18/patricfk_kisnorbo.jpg

http://www.sportal.com.au/photos/news/046240news.jpg

P-P-P-P-PATTY :D

[Wengerland]

:cool:

Apparantely Hearts have been playing him in midfield but either way we could do with bringing him in as our defence is too old and slow, and we need a ball winning midfielder.

[yianni]

Yeah he's got a good shot on him, he's come forward and let loose a few rockets. He's also good in the air, he's a good size and he's scored a couple of headed goals. Never saw him in midfield though, will be interesting to see how that works out. :eek:

[Rob]

:cool:

Apparantely Hearts have been playing him in midfield but either way we could do with bringing him in as our defence is too old and slow, and we need a ball winning midfielder.

Levein has no ambition. He'll ruin you by signing these useless Hearts players. There are better players in Scotland you could have signed and they would do you a job (Derek Riordan for a start).

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yeading 0-0 at halftime :love:
Stoke 1-0 at the Arse at halftime :love:

[toxic rooster]

Arsenal
J Lehmann, E Eboue, K Toure, P Senderos, G Clichy, J Pennant, F Fabregas, P Vieira, R Pires, J Reyes, R Van Persie
Subs: P Cygan, M Almunia, J Hoyte, S Larsson, Q Owusu-Abeyie

Relying on Reyes, van Persie et al to get an equaliser

Possession:
Arsenal 63%
Stoke 37%
Shots:
Arsenal 11
Stoke 3

[toxic rooster]

van persie :cool:

2-1

[Wengerland]

Levein has no ambition. He'll ruin you by signing these useless Hearts players. There are better players in Scotland you could have signed and they would do you a job (Derek Riordan for a start).

Can't afford Riordan i don't think, though it would be nice to have him. If these players were good enough to get Hearts to successive 3rd place finishes in the SPL then they should be good enough for us.

He's been left with an old squad on big wages and 1 year contracts, so it's just nice to see him giving people longer deals and trying to build a younger side. As long as we don't go down this year then i don't mind how we do, next season is really the time to be judging Craig.

[Wengerland]

Yeading lost 2-0 incidentely.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

More on the picture Mask posted.

Di Canio investigated for questionable salute

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20030811/DiCanio_47079.jpg
Associated Press



1/8/2005

ROME (AP) - Italy's soccer federation is investigating Lazio captain Paolo Di Canio for making what appeared to be a neo-fascist salute after his side's 3-1 derby victory over AS Roma this week.



The federation asked its inquiry office on Friday to study Di Canio's action. The star was photographed with his arm outstretched, palm facing down - a gesture generally associated in Italy with fascist leader Benito Mussolini.



Di Canio, who was widely criticized for the gesture, said it had no political significance.



The Lazio star, who scored the opening goal of the Thursday's match, said he has been a die-hard, or "ultra" Lazio fan for his entire life. Some "ultra" fans have sometimes used neo-fascist gestures at matches.

The player returned to Lazio this season after playing several years in the English Premier League, and is a popular player among the team's fans.

http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/news_story.asp?ID=110536 (http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/news_story.asp?ID=110536)

[Ogen]

ahaha I just rememberd Paulo pushing that ref.

[packt up]

YEADING BOWED TO MIGHTY NEWCASTLE

[packt up]

ps well done Yeading you were more than a match for us first half.

[toxic rooster]

ahaha I just rememberd Paulo pushing that ref.

Was he the guy that got a red card and pushed the ref?

I saw that on a special here last week :lol:

[toxic rooster]

We got Hoddle's Wolves in the 4th round.

Soton/Pompey too :cool:

[Wengerland]

Reading or Swansea away if we win the replay, i'll settle for that.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

FA Cup 4th Round draw:

Derby vs Watford or Fulham
Exeter or Man Utd vs Middlesbrough
Cardiff or Blackburn vs Colchester
Chelsea vs Birmingham
West Ham vs Sheff Utd
Oldham vs Bolton
Arsenal vs Wolves - FUCK :'(
Everton vs Sunderland
Nottm Forest vs Peterborough
Brentford vs Hartlepool or Boston
Reading or Swansea vs Leicester or Blackpool
Burnley or Liverpool vs Bournemouth
Southampton vs Portsmouth - :o
West Brom vs Spurs
Newcastle vs Coventry
Charlton vs Yeovil

Oh well, least we've got a chance of getting on TV :'(

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">JUUUUUUUUUDAS</font>

[Ogen]

Pompey match should be fun and I hope West Ham rape Sheff Utd.

[The Mackem]

Everton away, we might do another giant upset to go with the Palace one :roll:

[The Mackem]

Oh yeah, where's Oxstar? :D

[Rob]

Still can't believe we didn't smash Exeter into next week. Bloody embarrassment.

[diothoir]

Chelsea better smash Birmingham :mad:

[Cactus Sid]

I'm posting this now for people tomorrow, but did anyone watch Trouble At The Top on BBC2 last night?

Really interesting documentary on Luton Town and the goings on in the board room, fascinating, shows how evil some people are when it comes to money.

[Cactus Sid]

According to Rafa we'll sign Morientes for 6 million tomorrow, and he might be registered in time to face United.

[Danny Electric]

As much as I like Morientes, that doesn't help us in the Champions League.

[Danny Electric]

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=249226

Gravesen on his way to Madrid?

[Cactus Sid]

As much as I like Morientes, that doesn't help us in the Champions League.

I think we've got to be realistic, if we can get anywhere in the Champions League with what we've got, great, but realistically we need to concentrate on qualifying for the Champions League next season, and Morientes will help that.

[Wengerland]

Hopefully Liverpool get Morientes in time for the United game, i know Mellor and Sinama-Pongolle have done alright in Cisse and Baros' absence but i'd b much more excited about the game if it was Baros and Morientes up front.

I hope Gravo doesn't leave Everton too, good player with a personality to match. I don't think he'd fit in personality-wise at Real Madrid.

[Wengerland]

I'm posting this now for people tomorrow, but did anyone watch Trouble At The Top on BBC2 last night?

Really interesting documentary on Luton Town and the goings on in the board room, fascinating, shows how evil some people are when it comes to money.

Oh yeah i saw that, good stuff. The manager idol thing was a bit dumb but overall it was a good insight really.

I wanted to punch that Gurney bloke at the end of it when he said something like: "if they want me to walk away i'll make sure there's nothing to walk away from" :mad:

[Cactus Sid]

Well the good thing about it is that he ended up with nothing and Luton are now doing pretty well for themselves

[Ogen]

Atletico fined after Carlos abuse


Atletico Madrid have been fined 600 euros (£420) for the racist chanting aimed at Real Madrid full-back Roberto Carlos during the La Liga derby.

The Spanish FA's disciplinary committee decided Sunday's incidents were only a minor misdemeanour.

Referee Alfonso Perez Burrull asked Atletico to put out an announcement on the stadium's PA system asking the fans to stop, in the 83rd minute.

However, the PA announcement resulted in an increase in the chanting.

The Spanish FA released a statement regarding the punishment.

"We wish to repeat our condemnation of this kind of behaviour and repeat our promise to act with maximum firmness to eradicate any display of racism or xenophobia in Spanish football," it read.

The fine is exactly the same amount Albacete were fined before Christmas when Barcelona striker Samuel Eto's was racially abused in Atletico's Carlos Belmonte stadium.

Burrull was again the referee for that contest, but on that occasion Albacete refused his request to make an announcement on their PA.

Their fine was reduced to 300 euros (£210) on appeal, but the fans who did the chanting were singled out by other supporters and fined 6,000 euros (£4,100) each, as well as receiving a five-month ban from other sporting events.


---------


ahaha 400 quid

[Wengerland]

Yeah, that'll teach 'em.

[toxic rooster]

FIFA against racism :roll:

[Wengerland]

Chelsea vs Man U finished 0-0, not a bad game though.

Juventus have signed Mutu aswell, though he can't play for them until May 18th. That means he is available to play in the champions league final if they get there.

[Ogen]

Nice bit of buisness for them 5 year deal 20,000 a week for a player who could be fantastic if he pulls himself togethere,

[yianni]

http://media.f2.com.au/player/?site=SMH&source=int14275r&browser=ie&flash=on&player=windows&rate=4542&gz=1&rid=14277 (http://media.f2.com.au/player/?site=SMH&source=int14275r&browser=ie&flash=on&player=windows&rate=4542&gz=1&rid=14277)

Sorry, just found that link last night and I can't help myself. :D

[toxic rooster]

Is that the Greece thing?

[toxic rooster]

Drogba's chokehold.

If he gets charged on video evidence and suspended for three games, Chelsea will cry foul because he got booked and therefore shouldn't be charged later on, a la van Persie who got away with that elbow.

If he doesn't get charged on video evidence and suspended for three games, ManYoo will cry foul because Rooney got charged and suspended for three games for less on video evidence.

Can't win, ay :roll:

[Ogen]

Fortune was being a complete arse though I'd have choked him myself.

[Dazz]

No one fucks with Drogba, Kezman or Terry, you will get battered, United are the pussiest team in the league, and how anyone can think Heinze is hard is a joke. He came with a reputation of being hard, he crunched some bloke in the Champions League near the touchline at Old Trafford earlier this season, which probably made me think he was hard, but last nights game proved he is as pussy and girly as the rest of Argentina, they will never win a war if pussies like him are deemed to be hard. What a fucking joke.

[Maluco]

That is a joke really mate, but sorry, Keane or Carroll would batter any of those three you mentioned, and as for players thinking they ae hard, Kezman is the prime example. Maybe if he actually starts playing first team football and isn't bollox he can start his stupid taunting. Drogba beating up anyone, lol

[Rob]

No one fucks with Drogba, Terry and Kezman? :lol: Get a "viamolin" and tell play it to someone who cares. Yeah Chelsea are a such a bad arse team and Man United are pussies. That's why Chelsea are crying about everything. Drogba was crying about the referees watch from the 46th minute. £24 million of useless tosser. And as for Fortune, check the picture posted. He was only willing to fight your whole team after it took all of them to drag him from Drogba.

As for never winning wars, where are you from again? Iran? :p

[Dazz]

I am half English, only a quarter Iranian.

Drogba would have ended Fortune, Terry is always up for a ruck, the way he pushed Graveson round at Stamford Bridge earlier this season was great. Kezman is a fucking pitbull, he goes in hard and he looks like he is hard too, he would fucking do Keano, Carrol or Fortune, I am shocked Roy Carrol even got a mention, are you Irish, Fallen.

Fortune willing to fight our whole team is bollocks and you know it, Harvey, if anything he knew back up would arrive, plus trying to wind our whole team up would result in us getting in the shit, which he may have also had in mind. He knew no would would punch him during the match, I'd like to see him even think about taking on our whole team, or even just Drogba on his own, if he saw them in the streets,

[LK]

Kezman is a fucking pitbull, he goes in hard and he looks like he is hard too, he would fucking do Keano, Carrol or Fortune, I am shocked Roy Carrol even got a mention, are you Irish, Fallen.
Didn't look to hard when Fortune put in a tough challenge.

[Rob]

Bless you Dazz for thinking so much of Drogba. His mum doesn't think this much of him

[Dazz]

And you didn't think too much of forlan :rofl:

[Rob]

Still do mate. Still do.

[The Mask]

that's the good thing about this new utd team, they could probably kick the shit out of just about anyone :love:

[Dazz]

Mask, you are only kidding yourself.

[The Mask]

shut your mouth. we are awesome. heinze, fortune, keane, djemba (although he should get nowhere near the pitch), smith and rooney, and possibly carroll too, although keepers can't do much. we have a pretty awesome team as far as getting stuck in goes.

[The Mask]

shame we don't still have stam too though, watching ivan zamarano bounce off his chest was great.

[Danny Electric]

As for never winning wars, where are you from again? Iran? :p

There's nothing wrong with Iran, well actually there's alot wrong with Iran but Iranians are Persians and Persians used to ruel.
I'll challenge you to a duel or some Highland Games.

[Ogen]

Gav McCann and Olaf Mellburg would kill them all.

[PSIcological]

its been too long since i was last on

I have to say andy hessenthaler, alan pouton and barry ashby could probably batter all the above. And who are you united fans trying to kid, i mean come on, anyone remember how very frightened keane, the supposed real hard man, was of shearer

[The Mask]

http://www.irhfchaarlem.myadsl.nl/Kokmeijer%20Beenbreuk%20door%20beestachtige%20overtreding.wmv

OOOOOOH :'(

[The Mackem]

Premiership pussies.

[LK]

http://www.irhfchaarlem.myadsl.nl/Kokmeijer%20Beenbreuk%20door%20beestachtige%20overtreding.wmv

OOOOOOH :'(
Ouch

[Maluco]

From Northern Ireland mate, so that would explain why Carroll got a mention. There is a story here that keano picked up on him in his first season and he squared up to him only for Keane to back down.

Serious tho, he is a big fella and Keane is hard as nails despite people seeming to think otherwise. They would seriously kill any of those three, and as for the rest of the team, Gudjohnsen, Carvalho, little Makele, they are not gonna do much of anything in a brawl

[Mr. Monday Morning]

That is a joke really mate, but sorry, Keane or Carroll would batter any of those three you mentioned, and as for players thinking they ae hard, Kezman is the prime example. Maybe if he actually starts playing first team football and isn't bollox he can start his stupid taunting. Drogba beating up anyone, lol

All you'd have to do is throw a ball at Carroll and he'd be all over the place.

[Dazz]

Adam Kirk, you truely are the man, you are unbiased and support a shit team, thefore you are twice as good as shit united fans.

I love Adam Kirk, who else is called Adam Kirk, coz you deserve a good rep.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Wow, Nigel Quashie is going to Southampton.

When it was rumoured that Harry wanted to "raid us for players" I sat down and came up with a very small list of players who I thought would never go to Southampton. And Quashie was one of the few players on that list.

Thats just about killed what little faith i had left in football then...</font>

[jerichoholic169]

http://www.irhfchaarlem.myadsl.nl/Kokmeijer%20Beenbreuk%20door%20beestachtige%20overtreding.wmv

OOOOOOH :'(

the first thing i thought of after seeing that was of poor david busst. hope that guy makes a recovery cos that looked really nasty.

[jerichoholic169]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/e/everton/4167127.stm

i can honestly say of all the transfer rumours i've heard, that is the one i never saw coming. Is this the point where everton begin their fall back down the table then?

[Rob]

There's nothing wrong with Iran, well actually there's alot wrong with Iran but Iranians are Persians and Persians used to ruel.
I'll challenge you to a duel or some Highland Games.

I'd tell you to shut up but you are my alter ego so it's like talking to myself here.

[Rob]

Gravesen just completed his move to Real Madrid.

Damn! I wanted him at Man U. I think we'll probably end up with Solari at the summer but we need replacements for Djemba-Djemba and Kleberson fast.

[Dazz]

Keano is past it, you need a tough tackling midfielder.

We can lend you one.

[PSIcological]

as an everton sympathizer it is a little sad to see him go. I just hope they can get a suitable replacement e.g parker

[Rob]

Keano is past it, you need a tough tackling midfielder.

We can lend you one.

Funny enough, I'd take Geremi off you lot.

[Dazz]

From Northern Ireland mate, so that would explain why Carroll got a mention. There is a story here that keano picked up on him in his first season and he squared up to him only for Keane to back down.

Serious tho, he is a big fella and Keane is hard as nails despite people seeming to think otherwise. They would seriously kill any of those three, and as for the rest of the team, Gudjohnsen, Carvalho, little Makele, they are not gonna do much of anything in a brawl

Makelele is solid, you can tell just from his handshake he is solid, he nearly crushed my hand :(. I never said those players would do anything, just we do have some muscle in the team, Gallas and Cech could do some big time damage.

Funny enough, I'd take Geremi off you lot.

Go for it, he has been useless for us.

[The Mask]

Fergie on Rooney:

"He's actually a quiet boy with great enthusiasm in training. He loves training. I used to just have one problem on the training ground, which was Scholes. Now there are two of them. They get on early and you can't get them off after. They batter balls all over the place and one of them will hit me one day and kill me. That Scholes sends them inches by my head. Then all they hear is me bellowing 'Scholes!' 'What?' he says, looking up like an angel. And they hit the ball hard. Gary Neville was having a piss one day, 45 yards away by the fence. Scholes whacked him right in the arse."

:D

[LK]

Makelele is solid, you can tell just from his handshake he is solid, he nearly crushed my hand :(.

When about did he look solid? When he was rolling about on the deck after being tapped on the head.

[Dazz]

That was a one off, the guy is fucking hard, we all do stupid things from time to time.

[Cactus Sid]

What the fu</>ck was Dudek doing :(

[Cactus Sid]

What a bunch of dickheads the United fans are

"We hate scousers!" Erm..... right ok. Thats not what you were saying when Fatty scored.

[The Mask]

Well, we do. So does rooney by the looks of things :cool: